Phil Collins denies ex-wife’s claims about his personal hygiene

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A few weeks ago we watched as Phil Collins and Orianne Cevey entered into phase two of their second breakup, which has become Operation Occupy Fort Collins. Phil and Orianne had been married from 1999 until 2008. They have two sons, Nicholas, 19, and Matthew, 15. The pair rekindled their flame in 2016 and moved back in together but never remarried. Last August, Orianne surprised Phil when she returned home from a business trip married to Thomas Bates. The new Mr. and Mrs. Bates holed up in Phil’s $40M Miami mansion and refused to leave. When Phil’s lawyers threatened to have them physically escorted out, the couple employed armed security. On her third set of lawyers as she continues to sue Phil for half the house’s value, Orianne is throwing mud to prove she had the right to marry another man and steal his house. In her latest allegations, Orianne claims Phil had ceased showering and brushing his teeth, forcing him to become a hermit. Phil, who is living in his Switzerland home, which is close to Matthew’s school, said she’s just trying to smear him to get cash.

The legal drama between Phil Collins and his ex-wife Orianne Bates continues.

In a new court filing obtained by PEOPLE Monday — where Bates continues to ask for half of their Florida mansion — the 69-year-old’s ex-wife claims that Collins “stopped showering” and “brushing his teeth,” that he became addicted to anti-depressants and that he “became emotionally and verbally abusive” for nearly a year. Collins’ attorneys deny the claims.

“Philip’s stench became so pervasive that he became a hermit, refusing to interact personally with any people,” Bates, 46, alleged in the court filing. “As a result, Orianne had no choice, but to distance herself from him.”

She also claimed that Collins became “incapable of having sex” and that he “refused to provide emotional support, love or care for his children or Orianne.” (They share teenaged sons Nicholas and Matthew.)

In a response filed in court, Collins’ lawyers refuted the claims, described them as “immaterial and impertinent” to the case and categorized Bates’ allegations as a means of “extortion.”

“They are scandalous, scurrilous, unethical and, for the most part, patently false or grossly exaggerated,” Collins’ attorneys wrote.

“These false and scandalous allegations are again included only so that they can be delivered by defendants to the media to try to damage Phil Collins’ reputation in an effort to extort money,” they alleged in the filing.

[From People]

Last June, Orianne posted a loving Father’s Day tribute to Phil on her Instagram. It was at a Fourth of July Function just a few weeks later that their sons caught her with Thomas and forced her to tell Phil about him. It was only a few more weeks that the infamous Las Vegas “business trip” happened and she returned to Phil’s home married. Last month, Phil got a court order for Orianne and Thomas to vacate the home, which they failed to do. Following that, the three reached an agreement in which Orianne and Thomas will leave by mid-January and they agreed to let a realtor sell the house. The house is 100% owned by Phil’s corporation and to date, no legal or written documentation has been produced to show it was his intent to give it to Orianne. What’s also at stake, though, is decades of Phil’s music memorabilia that he has in the home. Orianne is claiming she is entitled to a portion of it.

I have so many questions about this whole mess, none of which I expect I’ll get answers. Phil has been pushing to get his home back in order because he intends to spend Christmas with his sons there. But if he struck a deal for Orianne and Thomas to leave by mid-January, will they all spend Christmas together? That should make for some fun Christmas cards. I am leaning towards Phil’s argument that Orianne is throwing whatever she can at the court to see what sticks. She also claimed Phil’s using hidden cameras and private investigators to spy on her. But what I truly do not understand is how these two people, who have already dragged their relationship through the courts once, didn’t protect themselves the minute they got back together, romance be damned. If Phil had promised Orianne half of what she’d claims he did, she was a fool not to get it in writing, especially given the only legal documents she does have are her previous divorce settlement. And Phil, man – what were you thinking?

Here’s Orianne last week purchasing her new Bentley in a leather dress. Poor lamb- how will she survive once Phil kicks her out?

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Me and my little Choupette!

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Mr and Mrs Bates

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  1. Noki says:

    And her new husband,how shameless does he have no self respect?

    • Madelaine says:

      My question is much simpler: how valuable is a self-proclaimed gold digger’s criticism?
      Did he actually stop showering or does her greedy subconscious mind mean he stopped showering her with outrageously expensive gifts?

  2. lemonylips says:

    I love Phil Collins’s work. Against all odds is one of my favorite songs ever. I felt really bad knowing how amazing of a drummer he is, hearing about his health issues. I can’t imagine him being a horrible person in any way. Cevey was such a beautiful woman…. what makes someone go full in plastic, looking as pretty as her? I don’t get it.

  3. GR says:

    Their poor kids!

  4. EMc says:

    That silver eyeshadow.. its all I can see.

  5. Also Ali says:

    Phil Collins must have more money than god. I had no idea.

    Wow, the things some people will say and do…

    • crowhood says:

      Genesis has been incredibly famous for decades and Phil Collins has some bangers.

    • Ani says:

      My understanding was that he doesn’t. After every divorce he lost half of his wealth. Then with her, she took half, but then her next husband took her for everything. Phil took her back in when she was broke.

  6. SJ Knows says:

    Phil Collins has had a long and successful musical career, Genisis was huge and toured for years, big arena tours that sold out.
    I like his music, he has been in poor health for a few years now.

    This Ex-wife is a true piece of work. Nasty. No class at all.
    Why on earth would you make these statements publicly when you have kids together?

    If she is so money hungry…sue the plastic surgeon who ruined your face.
    If she looks this bad in photos, IRL up close, she must look horrific.
    Btw, the new Husband she married behind Phils back is already counting her money and if she thinks otherwise..Idiot.

  7. Chaine says:

    Omg. Poor Phil does look a bit unwell in that photo. The ex should lay off the injectables. And Mr. Bates looks young enough to be one of her kids.

  8. Yup, Me says:

    The same thing she did with Phil Collins, that young dude is doing with her. Ho-ing for the come up is a time honored tradition. It sounds like she’s not great with her money, though, and she wants continued access to Phil’s deeper coffers.

    Separately, what kind of dirtbag is so bold and shameless that their kids have to force them to confess about their new boyfriend to their old boyfriend/ex husband?

    Lastly, you know there are all kinds of people in their inner circle right now, who have known them for years saying, “I told that old fool that Orianne was trash and to stay away from her. But he didn’t want to listen.”

  9. FHMom says:

    She does seem like the bad guy here. I will remind everyone, though, that Phil has a string of messy divorces. Plus, his first wife cheated on him and he took her back and documented it on a great solo album. IIRC, he said in an interview that his first wife was living in their house with her boyfriend and he was sleeping on the couch. I remember thinking at the time that he was either a very decent guy or a real putz. He was surprisingly nasty in second divorce with Lily Collins mom if I recall correctly. I need to look all this up because my memory is foggy, but Phil is no saint.

    • MoonTheLoon says:

      Was about to say the same thing. Is she being a sleeze? Yes. Does it outwardly look like she’s trying to get one over? Oh yes. But we have no clue because we’re not in it. I hate the “both sides” argument. From what I’m seeing with recent divorce cases, though, I prefer to keep an open mind until the facts come out properly.

  10. Sass says:

    Woof. Poor Phil. What a nightmare.

  11. Ines says:

    If she needs money, she should sue her cosmetic surgeon.

  12. Noodle says:

    Everything I need to know about her, I learned from the leather dress. First, it’s super tight in all the walk-y parts you would want to be loose so you can move your legs, then it has a train. A long one. On a leather dress. Which can’t be walked in. Good Lord.

    • antipodean says:

      Thank you Noodle for my first great laff of the day! I thought exactly the same thing. What sort of disordered thinking would allow her to even imagine she looked good in this. Also, I have no shame in saying that Master Bates must have seen her coming, his twinking skills know no bounds!
      I have always been a huge fan of Phil’s music, and his voice still gives me goose bumps. Has anyone seen The Twins’ First Look of “In the Air Tonight”? Priceless and spot on!

      • dj says:

        Yes. Watching them listening to it was amazingly fun! He was a really good drummer back in the day. Here is another point of view with Phil. My husband & best friend and I went to see him in concert in the 90’s for my birthday. He was doing all these songs that no one had heard (maybe a new album) and refused to do anything from his past. He also was on a big “Save the Homeless” kind of kick. Good for him until he tried to make the entire audience give money to the homeless! It was not a suggestion or hint but we were continuously bludgeoned by him through the concert. Nobody was clapping, singing the words or dancing like a usual pre-pandemic concert. It was the worst time! People started walking out…we left quickly thereafter.

    • SomeChick says:

      It’s several inches too long in the front. It needs to be taken up from the bottom of the bodice.

      Her eyeshadow is way too light/cool toned for her complexion.

      What a trashy photo. And this is how she presents herself!

      Phil seems to be a fool for love.

      This is where Bezos will end up in a few years.

  13. Kkat says:

    Ok this part ” addicted to anti-depressants” wtf does that part mean.
    Anti depressants are long term medications, meaning you have to take them 3-4 weeks before they take full effect, then you must take it every day.
    Your body does become dependant on it, meaning that when you stop, with most you must wean off gradually. But you DO NOT get addicted to them 🙄

    You can get addicted to benzos (they are not antidepressants but can be used by depressed/anxious or manic people) and you can get addicted to adhd meds if you are not adhd, but again those are not antidepressants.

    I hate when people put false information out there, putting even more of a stigma on medications that save lives.

  14. EarlGreyHot says:

    If she’s lying, she’s a gold-digger ho who is trying to extort her ex. If she’s telling the truth, it sounds a lot like he’s severely depressed and she’s a gold-digger ho who is using his illness against him. I’ve seen patients like that – so depressed they didn’t shower, change clothes, speak to others, some soiled themselves. It’s not a joke. Either way she can’t come out of this looking good.

  15. ChloeCat says:

    I’m gonna come out & say it, but she looks like a ‘ho. Trashy as the day is long. Who wears a long leather dress when they’re buying a car? How could you drive it in that dress? And her new husband looks young enough to be her child! Phil should wash his hands of this sleazebag.

  16. Bread and Circuses says:

    The thing that bothers me is…if he was taking antidepressants, then he was clinically depressed.

    And EVERYTHING she is complaining about here — withdrawing from people, being difficult to deal with, not keeping up personal hygiene, not being able to have sex — are textbook symptoms of depression.

    He was dealing with a major illness, and she’s exposing that mental health struggle to the whole world out of spite, because it has nothing to do with whether she has a right to that property.