Ivanka Trump & Jared Kushner will not be welcomed back to New York

Macron meets Trump

A few days ago, the New York Times did a *very* bitchy story about Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner, aka Javanka. It’s part of the whole Schadenfreude Transition, where various media elites (or just plain elites) are dunking on the Trump family and spilling petty tea about them, mostly Ivanka. Personally, I would have enjoyed all of this energy more if it was happening consistently in the past four years. But I won’t begrudge anyone their fun – Javanka sucks and they’re both criminals. I hope they both rot. Anyway, the Times says that Javanka’s post-White House future is in New Jersey:

Javanka’s New Jersey cottage: Town officials in Bedminster, N.J., have the plans for a possible Trump family future, or at least the blueprints: a major addition to Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner’s “cottage” on the grounds of the Trump National Golf Club, four new pickleball courts, a relocated heliport, and a spa and yoga complex. The couple had already expanded their “cottage” in New Jersey by 2,500 square feet in 2016, adding a basement and a fireplace sitting room, all documented by Ms. Trump on Instagram. The new plans before Bedminster Township call for an expanded master bedroom, bath and dressing room, two new bedrooms, a study and a ground floor veranda.

New York will be inhospitable: “In an odd way, they will even have a harder time than Trump himself” in New York, said Donny Deutsch, a brand management mogul in Manhattan and no-holds-barred critic of Mr. Trump on cable TV. “He’s despicable but larger than life. Those two are the hapless minions who went along.”

They were a–holes at their kids’ school: Once in, Ms. Trump and Mr. Kushner tended to violate the unspoken rule of the Washington private-school world, that parents with heavy security details keep disruption to a minimum, four parents said. At schoolwide events, the family and its entourage often occupied the front two rows, standing to greet administration well-wishers, said one irritated parent. Three people, including two who were present, spoke about a birthday party Mr. Kushner decided to attend with his children. He then requested the hosts’ Wi-Fi password so he could work in the living room.

Ivanka might be a GOP “kingmaker” though: “If I’m trying to keep my Senate seat or I’m running in the governor’s races in Michigan, Wisconsin or Pennsylvania, not only do I want President Trump, I want all the Trumps there,” Mr. Nunberg said. “I think Ivanka is able to live in two worlds: Trump-conservative populist and — I don’t say this in a derogatory way — Nikki Haley-country club-Jeb Bush Republican,” he said.

[From The NY Times]

Yeah, the point of the Times’ piece was to underline that Jared and Ivanka are not welcome back in New York, and that they seem to know it too. Javanka will spend their post-White House years in New Jersey or Florida or both, so as to avoid the awkwardness in New York, where the social scene is completely against them. That being said, while all of the elites are gleefully making plans to snub Javanka, I keep thinking about how Ivanka was still invited to Misha Nonoo’s Roman wedding last year. Ivanka, Jared, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, the York princesses, Katy Perry and Orlando Bloom and tons of other A-listers were there. I worry that despite the glee at the thought of snubbing these a–holes, Ivanka and Jared will figure out some way to land on their feet, financially and socially.

President Trump Pardons the National Thanksgiving Turkey in Washington, DC

President Trump Pardons the National Thanksgiving Turkey in Washington, DC

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  1. Sofia says:

    I agree. I think it will be “tough” for the first few years and they won’t be able to immediately go back to their NYC socialite life but again, after a few years, they’ll be welcomed back. Maybe not to the level they were before, but they’ll be invited at least.

  2. Sierra says:

    Nah, New York AG already confirmed she has like 60 indictments waiting for the Trump family.

    The whole Trump family is going down on state crimes and they know it.

    • Chica1971 says:

      Yep.. My money is on James, Vance not so much ( he’s adverse to trying rich criminals and took Trumps $$ which coincided with closing a previous investigation). Everyone thinks Trump is pushing the election is rigged because he wants to stay president but it’s driven more by his desire to keep state investigation at bay via presidential immunity. The worst thing Biden can do is give the Trumps a free pass in name of unity. Didn’t we do this with slavery, apartheid, Nixon, etc.. it worked out very well? Right.

      Will Javanka trade personal knowledge of US working for their own financial gain? All of these folks are huge liabilities to US security and should be treated as such.

      • Züri says:

        I agree with this, but there’s also a rumor floating around they’re keeping these lawsuits and everything going as a smokescreen to clear his personal debt. Apparently the site where Trumpies can contribute to his legal defense has small print that stipulates the funds can be used for purposes beyond the lawsuits. And who gets hurt in this are so many people who have been adversely affected by his policies and nevertheless continue to support his insanity.

    • liz says:

      This. Tish James has indictments waiting for the entire family, to be filed on January 22nd, 2021. If they come back to NY, it will be to go to Bedford Hills CF (her) and if the fates allow, Clinton CF (him). In reality, I see the whole family on a plane to Turkey the night of January 19.

      Biden will not pardon any of them. He will let DOJ and/or an independent prosecutor make the decisions about what charges should be filed. Even if they squeeze out a presidential pardon before the orange menace leaves office, that has no impact on any State-level charges.

      • Lorelei says:

        I have to imagine they’ve been watching him since Election Day at least — he’s the definition of a flight risk and NY is not going to let him flee away.

        I hope that Ivanka and her family are completely ostracized from NYC, but as Kaiser said with the wedding…I don’t know. Some of these people have short memories and are very fickle. I was horrified that she was invited to that wedding and I’m sure Meghan was, too.

        Either way, as a NY’er I can tell you that to Ivanka, having to live in NJ is the ultimate indignity. I’m not bashing NJ; there are parts that are beautiful, but it’s been a running joke since forever in NYC that NJ is trashy. She would not choose to go there if she had any other choice. I’m actually surprised she picked it over Florida.

        Most of all I hope this entire conversation is moot and she ends up in prison with the rest of them 🤞

      • Abuck says:

        @Lorelei ummm NJ is beautiful. Before trashing it, you should come by. We have excellent food, hiking, lakes, beaches, etc. Even skiing, before climate change made snow a rare event. NY made these losers, they can keep em! Send em to Strong Island

    • lucy2 says:

      Yup. And that “consulting fee” write off to Ivanka, when she was an actual employee, is not going to go over well. And that’s just one that we know about. All of his children have had their hands in the business for a long time, and it’s always been dirty. I think there’s going to be charges against all of them, and they’ll eat each other trying to get out of it.

      We don’t want them here in NJ either.

  3. Astrid says:

    Is Ivanka a kingmaker? Seems hard to believe.

  4. Lightpurple says:

    All that money spent on renovating when she is going to prison

    • tempest prognosticator says:

      Exactly. That’s some expensive denial.

      • Babz says:

        There’s sheer arrogance along with the denial. People like them are so arrogant, they can’t even entertain the idea of accountability for their actions. On the surface, they know all this awaits them in the near future, but they can’t fathom the idea that punishment could actually come down on them. I myself am eagerly waiting to watch it all happen.

  5. Teebee says:

    The attention span for scandal is short. Depending on how determined they are to return to their “normal” non-political life, I think it can happen to an extent. Over time.

    As far as future political aspirations? I am not sure either of them would want to jump back into the pool of public office. They both know how vociferous and vicious political campaigning is, and they have one of the most notorious political histories to overcome. I’m not sure they have the stomach for that life of constant scrutiny, dragging out the past, embarrassment all for a thankless job and diminished financial reward.

    They should also be thinking of their kids. Dragging their family into a life of continued fighting and reputation smearing, all for what? They have money. They should desire anonymity, luxury, vacations and light socializing.

    But who am I kidding? They are hooked on attention and publicity, fame and money accumulation. Who the heck knows what they’ll try to do to maintain that.

    • FancyPants says:

      I think about who will take care of their kids when they’re both in prison. Probably wishful thinking, I know, but if it really happens, there is no one in that family who is “less awful” to take custody of the kids (or might not be in a neighboring cell!).

      • H says:

        Jared’s brother and wife? Ivanka’s mom?

      • sassafras says:

        I hate that I know this but Joe and Teresa Giudice from RHONJ got staggered sentences because they had young kids so I know that’s a thing that federal judges do. Not so sure about NY state…

      • pottymouth pup says:

        I’m betting she’d throw Jared under the bus to stay out of jail (that will get her props with the antisemites in the base)

  6. Jayna says:

    NYC is also filled with rich Republicans, who aren’t your evangelical, love-my-guns Republicans. And money talks. It will take a few years, but they will be back in NYC and running in their moneyed social circles, but they will be given the cold shoulder by the liberals in NYC, who won’t forget. It won’t be the same as it was for them.

    I despise them. I’m sure they were trying to set it up for Jared to run for office. He probably still will at some point. People always said it was Ivanka who would run. I never got that. It was obvious that Jared was the one being given a ton of power within Trump’s administration. They think of themselves now as a political power couple.

    I despise all Trumps, but it is amazing, at least for the near future, how much power the Cult of Trump wields now within the Republican Party, even with his loss. They recognize 74 million votes went to him, so overall they still fear Trump.

    • Heylee says:

      I see what you are saying about Jared… However, from what I know Ivanka really thinks/ thought she’d be the first woman President.

      • RedWeatherTiger says:

        It gives me great joy to imagine them all, sitting around the last four years, scheming about their political dynasty–all built on trump’s winning a second term. And now, it is all dust. They have both shown their asses, and they are incompetent failures at everything except The Grift. I do not think she is a kingmaker, or that any of them will survive the lawsuits financially intact. And I hope they all go to prison, too. She needs to answer for the money-laundering in Baku.

      • sarphati says:

        Now it’s Lara who seems to have beaten her to the punch! Oh Lord no. The Trumps all have to go! We must cleanse our city from the slime left by this family.
        .Not again. Not.

  7. FancyPants says:

    They might be shunned in public, but they are the same awful people they have always been and the same people they socialized with before have always known it. Case in point: that wedding you mentioned. At least we won’t have to pay for the Secret Service to protect them from all the booing and hissing on the streets any more.

    • Elle Eagle says:

      @fancypants I think that we do have to pay for secret service detail for them. They could decline it, but they won’t because it is part of the grift. This family will be on welfare for a long time but, unlike the families they kicked off of food stamps, they might go to jail and it isn’t clear if the secret service will have to go to jail too, to protect them.
      Is it bad that I laughed while typing the previous sentence?

      • FancyPants says:

        From the list of Protectees on the Secret Service .gov website: “former presidents, their spouses and their minor children under the age of 16.” So Barron won’t get Secret Service protection much longer, either. I wonder how it works for ex-spouses? Has that ever come up before?
        Secret Service in jail would be really… something! The agency is already asking for volunteers to move to Maralago after the inauguration- could you imagine anybody raising their hand to be stationed inside Rykers? The most any of the Trumps will get is house arrest, but I will thoroughly enjoy referring to them as “convicted felons” from then on.

  8. Jaded says:

    They’ll be too busy fighting the scores of indictments waiting for them to weasel their way back into NY society.

  9. Ariel says:

    I think the wealthy of New York will welcome them back as soon as it’s not toxic in their circle. They don’t care about immigrants or corruption. The admin gave tax breaks to the super wealthy, that is all they care about.

  10. Lizzie says:

    At least she will stop getting free secret service protection January 20, 2021.

  11. Leah says:

    My prediction: they will both be in prison and the kids will be raised by Jared’s family. The kids will be able to see them through the barbed wire every so often.

  12. Teel says:

    How do you ‘add’ a basement?

    • Swack says:

      Wondered that also. Maybe under the new part that was built? Have no idea.

    • FancyPants says:

      Dig it out! It’s common in places like London, with historical preservation restrictions and no new land properties to buy. The only way to add square footage in places like that is to dig underground. It costs a real fortune. I remember reading about Gwynneth Paltrow or somebody adding multiple stories underground including a pool and thinking “wow she must really want to live in that *one* spot.” I think I would find it very claustrophobic and I would always be nervous about losing electricity and being lost in pitch black darkness.

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        Pretty much everyone I know on the east coast who own their own homes have back up generators hooked up. These go on as soon as power is lost. A good friend of mine put in even bigger ones after Sandy; the one he had he found inadequate. Since then, he’s never been w/out power.

        Granted, you have to go out daily/every other day to get gas to power it…but Goop will just send an employed peon to do that for her.

    • liz says:

      A friend of mine is did this in Denver last year. There was a crawl space under their house and they dug it out to build a full basement. The pictures are wild – the house was jacked up and you could see the beams holding up the kitchen floor from underneath. They had to move out for a few months because the water & power to the house was turned off while they were doing that work.

      They loved the house & the neighborhood, so it was worth it to them to do the work. They’d been in the house for at least 15 years and prices there had skyrocketed – doing the work was going to be cheaper than trying to find a bigger house in the neighborhood.

      • lucy2 says:

        Yup, we do that all the time here along the coast. Houses get lifted and set on higher foundations due to flooding. Definitely not cheap.

  13. Nic919 says:

    Jared is an actual traitor who has sold state secrets to middle eastern countries for funding for his building in NYC. Javanka is not going to be able to show their face in public once all this stuff comes out. It will be way more than white collar crimes like fraud. Ivanka has been a part of dirty deals too.

    • North of Boston says:

      Jared and his family have also sold US assets, ie golden ticket visas, in China to those who invested in some family real estate scheme.
      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kushner-family-sells-investor-visa-rich-chinese-beijing-ballroom-event-a7721611.html

      And who knows what Ivanka gave away in return for her patents/trademarks in China.

    • sassafras says:

      Yep. I still think they’re going to jet away to Israel or the UAE after all this. I would bet cash money that Jared’s been quietly negotiating a lot of things, including his own guarded villa overlooking the Mediterranean and a super yacht that they can use to “get away” any time they want.

      • Bess says:

        I think Kremlin Barbie, Jared and their top secret security will be on an Israeli government plane heading straight to Tel Aviv on the day of Biden’s inauguration. Netanyahu will welcome them and their security secrets with open arms.

      • Lorelei says:

        I said this upthread but I have to imagine they’re being watched — every member of that family is a flight risk and NY’s AG has been waiting for years to get her hands on them. If they try that on Inauguration Day, I really think they’ll be arrested and have their passports confiscated.

        I have no idea how it will all play out but if there’s any justice in the world, ANY — they will all end up in prison.

  14. Lively says:

    I’m sorry to say this but none of them are going prison. And will be welcomed back to NY with open arms. You’re giving the American justice system too much credit in terms of punishing the wealthy and ex president. How many yrs did Nixon serve?
    2008 financial crisis caused by rich and criminal bankers, how many of them served any prison time ??

    American justice system is a mirage, there to punish and monetise poor and people of colour.

    • Sparky says:

      To be fair, Nixon doesn’t completely apply here. Ford explained that he pardoned Nixon to basically wipe the slate clean–to end the “long National nightmare.” Trump no doubt will pardon himself and his family for any federal crimes they may have committed. That’s why we’re cheering on New York’s attorney general and NYC’s DA. I’m not so sure that privilege will help them on the state level. I guess we’ll see.

      • Fname Lname says:

        He can’t pardon anyone for crimes they are not charged with and we all know that those charges will not come until after he leaves office. I don’t think he will actually go to jail but it will break him.

    • Lorelei says:

      I read somewhere that the reason the bankers who really caused the whole mess weren’t prosecuted was because what they did wasn’t technically illegal (at least at the time — I don’t know if laws have been changed). Obviously it was immoral and reprehensible, but there wasn’t much Obama’s administration could do.

      @Lively, normally I’m very cynical and would totally agree with you, but this one time I have faith that NY will serve some justice to this crime family. I hope I’m not wrong.

  15. GoogleIt says:

    Bets on how long until Ivanka ends up on either Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen or is Ramona’s plus one to a Hampton’s event caught on film for the Real Housewives? As much as New Yorkers say they hate the Trumps, they are always there and will be as long as they have money. Also, Ivanka’s connections with Wendi Deng will keep her going places.

    P.S. How delicious is that story about the WiFi? Obviously, it would not be secure from hacker attacks but the cheap asshole doesn’t even use his own 5G. I really wonder if he has some type of socialization issues.

  16. Jay says:

    Aren’t they still tight with Wendy Deng? So long as that relationship stands, I imagine they’ll be ok. I get the impression they are trying to set up their own family compound, like the Kennedys or the Bush family at Kennebunkport. I highly doubt either of them will be sought after for political advice, though (supposedly Trump’s bible stunt was all Ivanka).

    The wifi anecdote about Jared is peak insufferable, probably meant to impress with how high powered and demanding his job must be! I’ll bet he tells that one himself, unaware that it makes him look like a pompous ass. Also, assuming Jared was doing work for the White House at this children’s birthday party, potentially a security issue😬

  17. Rise & Shine says:

    Can’t wait to get Trump Kushner adult kids out. If only they had two qualified senior advisors in the White House instead of Ivanka and Jared, some people would be alive today. Inexcusable. They are scrambling as to where they can live. No one wants them except TrumpCountry where they will never live (maybe Don or Eric). Good riddance to them. And the arrogance of them, all partying at Camp David this weekend while others suffer. Man, make this end, and never again. GOODBYE TO THEM.

  18. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    She’s wearing an intestine in the top pic.

  19. RobbyDobby says:

    With luck and a good NY State Attorney General, they will be too busy defending themselves against criminal charges for tax evasion and conspiracy to spend much time socializing…

  20. Eleonora says:

    Haha, yeah, NY of all places : D

  21. VIV says:

    Her head looks like it’s going to float away.