People want to take away Duchess Meghan’s HRH because of her latte investment


The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge should send the Duke and Duchess of Sussex a really nice Christmas gift this year. Will and Kate’s disastrous Covid Tour and their obvious “look at our children” PR was being widely slammed and criticized. But then Meghan appeared on CNN, looking every inch the beautiful princess, and we learned that she has invested in an oat-milk latte business. And now suddenly, we’re not talking about Will and Kate masklessly breathing on children in the middle of a pandemic. Now we’re back to the royal commentators’ favorite pastime: screeching about how Meghan is the worst thing to ever happen to the royal family because she… like, uses her money to invest in a small business. Let the punishments begin!

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are facing fresh calls to have their royal titles stripped after announcing a new investment deal. Meghan Markle, 39, has invested in a start-up business which makes instant oat milk lattes. The move marks the beginning of the Duchess of Sussex establishing herself as an investor with a focus on supporting female-founded companies.

But commentator Kevin Maguire has said her royal title along with Prince Harry’s should be taken away. Speaking to ITV’s Good Morning Britain, Mr Maguire said: “All these ludicrous titles should go anyway. It’s not just this rather gruesome pair, it’s everybody else with these titles. But you could take them away. I don’t think they’re the biggest scandal in the Royal Family at the moment.”

Meghan quit as a senior working royal in March for a life of personal and financial freedom. She and Harry had hoped for a dual role, earning their own money and supporting the Queen, but it was not possible and could have led to accusations they were profiting from the monarchy.

Commentator Andrew Pierce branded the investment deal “tacky”. He told GMB host Piers Morgan claimed “sources close to the Palace” are “just not happy about this overt, commercial activity”.

He said: “It’s tacky, it’s royals for hire, royals for rent. I remember Prince Michael of Kent in America many years ago was flogging bits of royal memorabilia on American TV programmes, it was stopped within days by the Queen. She won’t stop Meghan Markle from doing this because they’re a law unto themselves. But I think as that review continues as to how well they’re behaving as royals, that review will be published in March by Buckingham Palace. This sort of thing will speed up calls for them to be stripped of their title of HRH. HRH’s should not be flogging coffee even if it is environmentally-friendly and getting it promoted on a chat show.”

[From The Daily Express]

The Clevr Blends lattes were not promoted on a chat show, and Meghan was not “hired” to promote a brand of coffee. She invested her own money into a female-owned business, then she sent a gift basket full of the latte packages to Oprah, who then posted a video on HER Instagram. And in most of the coverage of Meghan’s investment, media outlets referred to her by her maiden name, or they used her Sussex title. British and international press has phased out using “HRH” anyway with regards to Harry and Meghan. So I have no idea why anyone thinks that Clevr Blends would be nowhere without… Meghan’s royal title/style. It’s just nonsense and the typical racist, sexist sh-t. But hey, at least we’re not talking about William and Kate’s asinine Covid Tour anymore.

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  1. Sofia says:

    Not this nonsense again. Like Kaiser said, they don’t even use them. Meghan is either referred to as “Meghan Markle” or “Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex” for more of the “serious” papers/news channels.

    • ItReallyIsYouNotMe says:

      I think a more accurate title to this piece would be, “People think that Duchess Meghan’s HRH title should be taken away and this time are using her oat-milk latte investment as the reason.” These sorts of arguments are just going to continue because the truth is that there is a group of people who just want Harry and Meghan completely out of Britain forever, they want their titles stripped, and they want everyone to know that they’ve essentially been disowned or voluntarily disowned themselves from the BRF.

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        “or voluntarily disowned themselves from the BRF”

        Actually, I think this is what the Sussexes SHOULD do. They should disown themselves from the royal family. In this day and age, the idea that someone should be revered, and paid for, and bowed and scraped to, just because of their birth is ridiculous. The royal family is a racist and sexist institution. I felt the same way when I heard that Harry and Meghan would still support the Queen after leaving — WHY? Why continue to support an outdated, racist, institution? They can support their “family” members privately but not support the outdated “institution.”

        I think highly of Harry and Meghan right now. But I would think even better of them if they were brave enough to call out the royal family for what they are. Outdated, racist, misogynistic, dinosaurs who have no place in the modern world.

      • Bohemian Angel says:

        Well said Mrs Krabapple! 👏👏👏
        They really don’t need those titles, if I was Meghan I would hand it all back to the bloody English, title, Frogmore, Archie out of the line of succession. She doesn’t need them or that racist family and out of date institution, neither does Archie.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Was over at the Daily Mail this morning. I thought the hatred for Meghan was bad but it is nothing compared to the hatred of Oprah and the hatred of ‘Hollywood”.

      I tried to stop myself but could not resist informing posters that neither Meghan nor Oprah live in Hollywood. While I was at it, I also brought up Duchy Originals and products from Sandringham Farms.

      • mytwocents says:

        me,too BayTampaBay, I also brought up Duchy. AND i couldn’t help to ask why the DM has not posted about the Harpers Bazaar piece that Meghan and Harry were the most tweeted about Royals in 2020, with the Queen in 3rd (somehow doubtful of this as the Queen was pretty much in isolation during the whole year), and Diana came in 4th! Diana beat Charles yet again, overshadowing him as he only came in 5th. Andrew 6th and finally, Will and Kate, 7th and 8th – oh the horror! I’m sure Will will sue if they show this article! lol And funny enough, Charlotte made the list as number 10, and George did not!

      • Elizabeth Regina says:

        The monarch sells gin out of tax payer palace shops for heaven’s sake. Gin, otherwise known as mother’s ruin but that’s ok. Investing your own hard earned money in something as innocuous as lattes is however an abomination. I feel very, very sorry for the DM and Express readers and so called ‘royalists’

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Correction. People want to take away her title because she dares to breathe. Meghan and Harry have superseded their royal titles. The royal titles are no longer the brand. THEY are the brand and to haters this is like rubbing salt in the non healing wounds of their soul.

      • They won’t be happy until Meghan is whipped naked in a public square for daring to be OTHER. The goalposts will never stay in place. I’m glad the Sussexes just RISE above it all and live their best lives.

  2. STRIPE says:

    Would it be all that bad if they “lost” their titles? At this point what on earth does it matter? They have all the money they’ll ever need, a lovely home…what are these titles achieving for them?

    I say f*ck it. Give them all up. Break totally free from the Windsors.

    • Bex says:

      Why exactly should they give those reporters what they want?

      It will not stop them whinging about Harry and Meghan, and it CERTAINLY won’t stop them from covering everything they do. The UK tabloid press have consistently reported on them since their last day as working royals (March 31). These editors and morning show producers have the power to never mention either of them on UK TV, yet they choose to keep talking about them.

      The fact that Charles is partnered with Bank of America on his sustainable initiative, and Zara and Mike acting as “consultants”, and Princess Michael of Kent with her HRH on the cover of all of her books? It’s a double standard that the UK press banks on their viewers/readers being ignorant of.

      • STRIPE says:

        I see your point for sure, they haven’t done anything wrong. I just feel like, why not totally be free of the Firm? I guess my main question is: why do they want to keep the titles anyway?

        Best I can tell they won’t be losing anything material if they give up the titles. I’m American so correct me if I’m wrong but it seems to be these titles only allow privileges that H&M can afford on their own now. Also I guess my American-ness is coloring my feelings about these titles in general. Like, who cares? The titles mean nothing in the US, where H&M are now living.

      • Feeshalori says:

        I agree with you in certain respects, Stripe, I’m American too but l feel that if the RF want those titles back, then come and get them! I double dare them because it will open up a whole can of worms for them as far as Pedo Prince is concerned and other HRH’s capitalizing off their titles. Why should HM make it easy for them after what they put this couple through? Then they’ll be accused of disrespecting the queen for returning a title that she bestowed on them. In the scheme of things, titles and honorifics don’t mean anything at this point in their lives, but it’s the principle of the matter. I’m all out for being petty for holding onto them. So let them come and see what mayhem ensues!

      • BnLurkN4eva says:

        I continue to say, no to willingly/voluntarily giving back the titles. If the queen wants H/M titles, strip it from them publicly so the whole world can see. I personally don’t care about titles and to me, they are just H/M now and have been since almost the beginning of watching them. Still, I say, they’ve given enough that they shouldn’t have had to give up. As long as the monarchy endures, Harry is entitled to the titles he has and Meghan his wife are entitled to hers. The double standard is too much and will not end if/when titles are removed, so I say, come and get them and striped them before the global world, so the entire planet can see the BRF for who they are.

    • Myra says:

      I think the optics of the BRF stripping them of their titles will be bad. Why hasn’t Eugenie and Beatrice lost theirs or the Prince and Princess of Kent? Why hasn’t Andrew lost his? I don’t think Meghan and Harry should give up anything. The call to have them stripped of their titles is a racist one. Let the BRF make the move and receive their well-earned backlash. Season 5 of The Crown will be next year, it will coincide well with the one year review, I think.

      • Cecilia says:

        They shouldn’t give up a damn thing. They’ve already made way to many compromises for that “family”

      • Lorelei says:

        @Myra this is exactly what I was about to say. They’re in between a rock and a hard place with the HRH thing. I’m sure they would love to strip H&M of the titles because they’re next-level petty lunatics, but all that would do is prompt questions as to why Andrew still has his and they don’t want anyone to go there. They’re stuck with this one.

        They simply cannot comprehend that most people absolutely do not care one iota — or even notice — if HRH is used or not. I read all of the press about Oprah/Clevr yesterday and I couldn’t tell you one way or the other because it’s so minor and irrelevant.

        Her brand is Meghan Markle. (Yes, obviously she has a much higher profile since marrying Harry, but if she was uninteresting on her own, people wouldn’t still be clamoring for news about her a year after she left the BRF. If it was Sophie or Kate, most people would have forgotten who they even are by now.)

        Meghan’s star power is her own and she doesn’t need their stupid HRH to be successful. I think they know this, and it makes them furious because to them, an HRH is, like, the highest honor and status one should strive for in life. They cannot BELIEVE that she wasn’t 100% grateful for being “allowed” to marry into that family and then thinking, “Yeah, no” and walking away. It upends their entire worldview, lol. They’re spitting nails, especially W&K.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        The Crown season 5 will first air in 2022.

      • Summerlover says:

        That’s exactly why I hope they do it. Will turn the world against them.

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        The next The Crown will be in Nov. 2022. It *always* starts in mid-Nov. Sigh…feels like FOREVER away lol Makes me feel like a little kid waiting for summer break, or the holidays 😊

        I say LET THEM TRY to take H&M’s titles; it will open a can of worms that will devour them. While I don’t think M gives a rat’s patootie about it, it IS part of who H *is*, part of his identity; he has ALWAYS been “PRINCE” Harry. I would think it would be wounding in that sense, like stripping his military patronages from him did. But for the *words* on paper… I don’t think he gives a crap about it in that way. His FIRST care, as he has shown us, is his wife and child, and the family & future they’ve/they are building. Period.

      • Myra says:

        That far away? It does feel like waiting for Christmas :)

        Well, I guess Peter Morgan will have more time to sharpen the parallels between Sussexit and the Wales’ divorce.

      • I loved that comment in the article that Buckingham Palace is going to publish a one-year review report card on the Sussexes. Hello, BP —- the Sussexes have left the building!

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        This! So many non-working royals get to keep and profit openly off of them. Let the system work. Let parliament judge. And let those floodgates open!

        Maybe the BRF does want the titles stripped, but it will never happen unless they voluntarily give them up. And I hope they never do.

    • Alexandria says:

      They should not give them up because they have not done anything wrong. That will not stop the malice. If the Queen or Parliament want to take the titles away, go ahead and try. I dare them because that is too much work and I’d love to view their professional point by point explanation of WHY.

      • STRIPE says:

        I hear you. They haven’t done anything wrong. I just don’t get why H&M would want to keep the titles in the first place. I don’t see that they hold any value or privileges that H&M can’t get themselves at this point. I would want to be free and clear of the Windsors if I were them.

      • Lady D says:

        Point out the fact that the local pedophile is also rocking the HRH title and see who still wants it.

      • BnLurkN4eva says:

        @Stripe, H/M should want to keep the title out of principle. The British monarchy still exist, Harry was born a prince, married and so entitled to a dukedom like all the others similarly born and so is entitled to the title as is his wife. The principle is, he did nothing wrong and it’s being asked to be striped/given up because of racism, by giving up the title voluntarily, they would be letting bigotry win. These two fight against such evils and should especially fight it when it’s directed at them. Again, I say, come and take it from them if you want it BRF, until such time stfu about it. @Stripe you have made your point, continuing to suggests they should give it up seems like trolling imo.

    • Kalana says:

      They will just move the goal posts again.

      The hate is racism, As long as Meghan isn’t 100% white, the press and the BRF will keep hovering and trying to rip them to pieces. This is part of understanding racism.

      “The function, the very serious function of racism is distraction. It keeps you from doing your work. It keeps you explaining, over and over again, your reason for being. Somebody says you have no language and you spend twenty years proving that you do. Somebody says your head isn’t shaped properly so you have scientists working on the fact that it is. Somebody says you have no art, so you dredge that up. Somebody says you have no kingdoms, so you dredge that up. None of this is necessary. There will always be one more thing.” –Toni Morrison

      • Myra says:

        Thank you for highlighting Toni Morrison’s words. People ought to understand that placing the onus on Meghan to do something about the racism she is subjected to, will not stop the racism levied towards her. To the contrary, it will only embolden the racists to make more outlandish demands, until she has nothing else to give up but her own life.

      • Exactly, Kalana Then, you get to the end of your life and find you’ve spent it trying to justify your right to exist to racists who are NEVER going to stop finding one more thing about you that isn’t right. I say, live your best life and the hell with all of them.

    • Eleonor says:

      H&M are going to be rich as hell.
      Personally I would give up all my Royal titles, with a postcard, and send a basket full of milk, made by the startup helped with the hard earned money.
      Bye Felicia!

      • Amy Too says:

        Ooooo. I’m cackling now imagining Meghan sending every single member of the royal family the same Clevr Blends gift basket she sent to Oprah for Christmas with a little note that says “Happy Holiday! Xoxo, M 👑 “ She should send two to Kate, just for fun.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Yes, it would be. The haters and racists just want the HRH and title stripped from Meghan, who dares to breathe while being Black. That’s it. Other royals (the white, born-in royals) use their HRH and titles to earn livings, but they aren’t called out. Andrew raped a trafficked teen and he still has his HRH and title. Beatrice, Eugenie, P&P Michael of Kent all use their HRH and titles in some way to make money.

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        Truly… think Eugenie would’ve been hired to her position straight out of college? Or Bea, ESPECIALLY Bea, someone with NO EXPERIENCE (in that field, or any to be honest; has the woman held a job for more than a year at the most, EVER? Most of her “work” up till then consisted of taking upwards of 17 “vacations” a year) enters in a “VP” position?? They were hired for WHO they are AND THEIR CONNECTIONS.

        Think ANYONE would hire Peter Phillips to shill milk, or *anything* else, if he wasn’t connected to TQ? Or get that £750K “commission” for TQ’s Jubilee party, you know…the one that didn’t get ANY competing quotes for the party…and STILL charged the charity workers £25 EACH for their measly picnic basket?

        At least Zara has to have some talent to compete with her horses (though she gets the *finest* thorobreds from Mummy and Granny’s barns). But even on the name alone, she wouldn’t go far in that sport.

      • notasugarhere says:

        She got a seat on the Olympic team because it was in the UK during her Granny’s Jubilee year. It is a *selection* process, not one based completely on numbers. Her being selected for the team that year was PR.

  3. Keroppi says:

    Petty, petty, petty!

  4. Esme says:

    Honestly, I think at this point they have a simple bot churning out these “raised eyebrows/strip the titles” pieces, they’re so predictable. It’s boring… it’s a bit like, you know when elderly relatives go on and on about old fashioned, irrelevant stuff (about napkins, curtains, silver polishing) and you go “yes, great aunt, yes, of course…” while tuning them out… I imagine is more or less the same for H&M vs “no titles!” – eye roll and a shrug.

    • MsIam says:

      Or some intern in the office. They just copy and paste the same thing from article to article. Has Puce Morgan spewed his outrage yet? Dickie Buttonbottoms? So boring!

  5. Britt says:

    This is getting so boring. At this point, the media are trying to pressure the Queen into doing this to make them feel good about being dumped and broke. It’s tired and stale now and at this point, this is beating a dead horse. Losing the titles ain’t going to change the fact that the tabloid media was dumped, they’re stuck with boring, bland royals and the family lost out on a chance to become a true modern Royal family. They all know this and this is just bitterness because they all know what they’ve lost and instead of humbling themselves and admitting things got way too out of hand, they dig an even bigger grave.

    • Amy Too says:

      I do enjoy the slight twist in this article where the guy is like “take all the titles. From all of them. They’re all stupid. And Meghan and Harry aren’t even the biggest scandal.”

  6. S808 says:

    It’s not about her titles, she could lose them tomorrow and her influence and impact would be unchanged. Her life won’t end if her title is taken away as much as they all wish.

    • Miumiiiu says:

      Yes. She’s not more and more famous because of any title. She’s more and more talked about because stuff has happened. Taking the title will just be another news story happening to her and making her more relevant. The more things happen to her the higher her profile will be. The title is not a ticket to cash in on much, at least not for someone who people are already very interested in. If the title matters, the fact that she has the title now will make her keep mattering even if she loses it. People are still interested in chelsy and she never had a title. Whereas there are other women who married in and have titles with no disputes (Autumn and Sophie ) and those undisputed titles have not made anyone particularly interested in them or their businesses, if they have any.

  7. Lucylee says:

    Please let them take the titles then the RRs will start to write stories about how much more successful H and M could be if they still had the titles. Those people on Struggle Island revealing themselves to be shallow and pathetic.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      They took Diana’s HRH and over 20 years later she is still topping the polls as one of the most famous royals from her grave. Harry and Meghan do not need those titles.

      • MsIam says:

        I think that is the one reason they won’t take the HRH. It will automatically bring up Diana again and the whole ugly divorce. The BRF desperately want that buried and the page turned on this chapter.

      • notasugarhere says:

        ‘They’ didn’t take Diana’s HRH. Diana willingly gave up her HRH for more money from Charles, her lawyer admitted it. Once she found out Fergie kept hers, Diana pitched a fit and lied about the royals taking her HRH. Queen threw up her hands and issued a new Letters Patent that Fall, that anyone who divorces out of the family loses their HRH.

  8. Lemons says:

    I really wish someone high up in the political/social food chain would just say ENOUGH. I think so often about where we would be as a society if our intelligence and knowledge wasn’t spent combatting this trash. The same mentality as the Epstein guy upset about Dr. Jill as FLOTUS. When will we move beyond this?

  9. sara says:

    Peter Phillips was out selling “royal” milk in China like a few months ago!?!?! And I’m sure Beatrice’s “business dinner” had nothing to do with her royal connections. Lord the hypocracy. They’re just mad because most royals are not good at business and often embarrass themselves so they aren’t a threat to the system, while Meghan and Harry have been wildly successful in a short time period

  10. mynameispearl says:

    Wouldnt be listening to toryboy Andrew Pierce’s opinion on anything.

    Piers and Andrew get exercised and mad about something something Megan and Harry every morning. Suzanna and Kevin Maguire shrug and never care. Most people watching dont actually give a f either.

  11. WaterBearer says:

    Long time Celebitchy fan.

    Some background Kevin Maguire is a senior political journalist for the left leaning Daily Mirror. He is a Republican and has no time for Royals. He’s slagged them all off. So this is not surprising coming from him. As for the others it’s the same old baloney. Whatever Meghan does the right wing English press will find something to be angry about.

    It’s another confected controversy.

    This venture is a good fit for Meghan and I can’t see how this enterprise undermines the Institution’s values. I thought they would align.

    • mynameispearl says:

      Kevin never says too much though unless asked, hes fairly consistent enough in that he thinks ALL the Royals are useless in every situation, as opposed to Andrew Pierce who thinks the Royals are this amazing institution and literally would lick the Queens boots if asked to.

      • Abena Asantewaa says:

        @mynameispearl Kevin Maguire, hates Meghan, he is like Graham Smith, he claims to be a Republucan, who hates the royals taking money from taxpayers, yet he always criticizes H&M’s for earning their own money, so which is which? . He calls them the gruesome two, he said good riddance to Meghan, and that he himself would give her a lift to the airport. He is fake. When Harry became tearful at The WellChild Awards night, he quipped that Harry was faking the tears. Don’t be fooled, he really dislikes The Sussexes more than the royal family. Andrew Pierce is the same in his hate for Meghan. What is wrong about investing in a startup, not even in a big company like Coca-Cola. Charles has invested in teas, biscuits, the queen gin and The Panama Papers; The British hypocrisy is really an affliction.

  12. Snuffles says:

    The British media bitch, but in reality they are SO excited Meghan did something new that they can write about and rip apart.

    If there IS a social media ban placed upon them for their “one year review”, then I applaud Harry and Meghan for all of the ways they have been going around all the bullshit road blocks The Firm put up thinking they would handicap them enough that they wouldn’t succeed, wouldn’t be able to cut any deals or get any press and would come crawling back.

    I also have a new theory. I bet every single member of the royal family has business investments that they would rather not have exposed. Investments they probably got by leveraging their royal titles. If people start looking closely at Harry and Meghan’s business ventures, they might start exposing theirs.

    Let the games begin!

    ETA: And that whole “take away their HRH!” is pointless as they haven’t used it once since they left.

    • Lorelei says:

      @Snuffles imo the “review” is hilarious because the family seems to be placing so much importance on it; it’s the last shred of leverage they will ever have on H&M. Meanwhile I’m sure H&M just sort of nodded and agreed to it to shut the courtiers up and move on, but in reality in means nothing and who knows if it will even happen. What would be the point? It’s not as if H&M are doing anything remotely egregious, and even if they were, what is the family going to do about it except bitch at them one last time?

      I would like to hope Harry and Meghan would just skip the whole damn thing, but that in itself would generate headlines for weeks about how disrespectful that was to the Queen, Charles, and William. So hopefully they’ll just do a quick Zoom call with these people as a formality, but it’s entirely pointless.

      Send them each a large basket of Clevr products and be done with it. Lol

      • Amy Too says:

        I like how they seem to think the RF is literally going to publish a written review about how well or poorly Harry and Meghan have performed as non-working royals with like an itemized list of their transgressions and a paragraph at the end that’s like “In conclusion, these are the new punishments we will be inflicting on Harry and Meghan. 1) for investing in coffee: a 3-week long story that just won’t die about how Meghan is a sanctimonious vegan, doesn’t allow Harry to hunt anymore, and only feeds Archie organic apple juice that she buys from Tibetan monks for $78 a bottle. 2) for being friends with Oprah: as many as 30 Daily Mail articles that contain the phrase ‘Hollywood connections.’ 3) for the Netflix deal: 7 morning shows in which a commentator wrings their hands and literally cries about The Crown. 4) For signing a deal with Spotify: at least 6 articles that contain the phrase ‘niggling concerns,’ 5) for buying a house in Montecito: 1 listicle, complete with photos, entitled, ‘35 Times Princess Kate wore it Better than Meghan Markle.’ 6) for leaving Frogmore empty: as many as 10 royal podcasts in which the hosts detail exactly how Harry and Meghan COULD travel during the middle of a pandemic if they really loved the Queen, but since they haven’t, they must hate her. 7) for the rainy umbrella shot: 1 cover story of William and Kate recreating the iconic image with an accompanying article that claims Harry and Meghan knew that Will and Kate were going to do this and attempted to ‘steal their fire’ by doing it first. 8) for looking beautiful at the Commonwealth Service: every article written about the Sussexes for the next decade will contain the phrase “blindsided the royals,” AND “incandescent with rage.” 9) for “allowing” Oprah to use a crown emoji: All articles written about Harry and Meghan for at least the next 2 years must contain the phrase “…who are currently hiding out in their $20 million, 14-bathroom, Hollywood mansion.”

      • 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💃🏻💃🏻👑👑👑 Heavy clapping, a little dancing, and 3 crowns for you, AMY TOO. your “punishment review” was a hoot. Thanks for the laugh.

  13. Amy Bee says:

    I want the Queen to strip Harry and Meghan of their titles. Little England may celebrate but the rest of the world will see her and her family for the petty people they are and it will just remind everybody of how the treated Diana when she left the family. It’s only in the England that those titles really mean anything and I think Meghan and Harry would be better off with out them.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      QEII will never take away the Sussexes style of HRH because she would have to take away Andrew’s HRH too.

      I am pretty sure that only parliament can remove the Dukedoms through an “attainder” from Harry & Andrew but I may be wrong.

  14. Louise177 says:

    I think they should lose their titles. Then all of the haters will have nothing to complain about and it will be fun to see how angry they will get seeing that Meghan and Harry are still popular. Nobody sees the HRH as significant. Not sure why people think everyone will stop caring without the designation.

    • ArtHistorian says:

      The haters are just going to move the goal posts – invent new reasons to hate them.

      • Lorelei says:

        @ArtHistorian: Yes, they would just start braying that no one would even know who Meghan was if it wasn’t for her royal connection — which is for the most part true — but that applies to ALL OF THEM. If Charles was some random farmer and Bill some random air ambulance worker, no one would know who they are either. It’s all so stupid.

        At least Meghan did have a significant fan base from work she did herself and on her own merit before she even met Harry, so she’s the one who needs the HRH the least out of all of them. The rest of them have literally done nothing except be born into it or marry into it.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Exactly, ArtHistorican. The racists, haters, and tabloid hacks would just fine another thing to bitch about.

      • lanne says:

        RRats: First they said, “if you don’t like the way we talk about you, then leave!”
        Meghan and Harry left
        RRats:”What about the 3 million we spent to fix the broke down house we gave you?”
        Harry and Meghan: here’s your money
        RRats: “What about the HRH we gave you!”
        HM (don’t use HRH)
        RRats: “What about the royal blood in your veins, harry! Drain it for us!”
        Harry: FU
        RRats: How dare you buy a house and make a living!
        Meghan: Living my life, can’t hear you!
        RRats: Wait…come back! WE NEED YOU! Year review, remember?
        HM: Lol Nope
        HM: Bye, bitches!

    • Gina says:

      I politely disagree. If Meghan and Harry lose their HRH, British Press and haters from the Palaces and from the streets will find another reason to hate them. Let’s the RF make the move…

      • Lorelei says:

        @Gina, sadly I agree with you. I don’t think the British media is ever going to stop trashing the Sussexes at every opportunity they get, no matter what. They didn’t even let up when she was pregnant or when she opened up about the miscarriage; they’re ruthless. It will probably go on like this until they’re older and then they will try to get whatever they can about Archie. It’s vile.

      • lanne says:

        The only thing is, the world loves an underdog, and the BM are setting themselves up to the the villians in maybe the the biggest royal story of this generation. If H and M last together, and I certainly hope they do, then this might be the greatest royal love story in the UK ever. David and Wallis Simpson’s love story is tainted by their Naziism and their self-pity as they wallowed in pointless luxury all their lives. H and M has all of the features of a great love story that could be told in books, films, and legend

      • Lorelei says:

        @Lanne oh I totally agree; internationally, they seem to be pretty much universally liked and admired. I was only talking about the British tabloids. Harry and Meghan are definitely the winners here, and I hope that even the racists in the UK will tire of hearing about them eventually. They rehash the same criticisms over and over again; at this point it’s a joke.

        Plus, within the next few years, Philip will certainly pass away, then at some point, Charles’s coronation, and who knows what will happen with Andrew, so the press will have a lot of other Royal news to focus on. Right now all they have is the Cambridges who are so boring it’s painful, and the British press is still raw from Sussexit. The more time that passes, their bashing of Harry and Meghan who are off minding their own business will gradually become relevant only to a small group of aging royalists. I hope.

  15. OriginalLala says:

    eh, the whole of the BRF should lose their titles frankly.
    H&M should not just lose their titles because of an investment while HRH Pedo Prince still has his. I would support the whole family being stripped though, the Windsors are a useless lot.

    • hoopjumper says:

      I’d be fine with this solution. Confident the Sussexes would outshine everyone else to an even greater degree under those circumstances.

      Kudos to Maguire for acknowledging the Sussexes aren’t the Firm’s biggest problem at the moment, but funnily, am unclear what he thinks is: crappy tour, pedo Andrew, tone-deaf Liz? It says a lot that against that backdrop he is one of the few to acknowledge the Sussexes aren’t the real issue. Bar is on the floor.

      • OriginalLala says:

        exactly, H&M have proved that they can succeed outside the BRF, They would be fine without titles. The others??? It would be interesting to see…

      • lanne says:

        What would Kate do without her title? The same thing she’s doing with her title. Nothing.

        But even if they “strip” their titles, they’ll still be referred to as the Former Duke and Duchess of Sussex, which will just continue to telegraph to the world that their titles were stripped because…why exactly? Can you imagine the “former Duke and Duchess of Sussex” visiting a Commonwealth country, any commonwealth country, and all of the write-ups: why are they the former duke and duchess after all?

        They really think Parliament will convene to discuss the Sussexes and hold hearings in the middle of Brexit chaos? Do they really think that non-tories will play along, and not mention Andrew, the Kents, B and E, the fricking House of Lords? My guess is that they will ask H amd M at the review to continue not to use their HRH, but they won’t take it from them. Someone needs to sit down with William and explain things to him.

  16. Becks1 says:

    At least the first person quoted in that article says that everyone should lose titles and that they aren’t the biggest scandals in the royal family.

    At this point, its laughable because EVERYTHING they do causes people to screech about the titles and about HRH. I wonder if the british press realize how unhinged they look to the rest of the world – especially while HRH Prince Andrew the Duke of York is still out and about and avoiding the FBI.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      ” I wonder if the British press realize how unhinged they look to the rest of the world”

      The British Press does not care because they really think England is the middle and whole of a global world.

      Clarification: I mean no offense to my fellow UK CBers but the British Tabloid press, especially online, is as unhinged as Donald Trump and Alex Jones.

    • Amy Too says:

      I thought entire point of the royal family, HRH designation, the peerage, and noble titles in general, was that it literally does not matter what you do, how good of a person you are, or who you piss off, if you are born into the “right” family, you, and all your descendants get the title. Since when are ANY British, hereditary titles based on merit or how well the Queen, the public, or the press like you?

    • M.A.F. says:

      “I wonder if the british press realize how unhinged they look to the rest of the world”

      Outside of gossip sites, the rest of the world doesn’t care.

      • Nic919 says:

        Because they are irrelevant and don’t understand they don’t cater to an audience beyond that island. Now when the NY Post creeps into because of Murdoch connections that’s a bit worse, yes UK tabloids don’t matter. No one knows who Dan Wootton is and if not for replacing larry king, most wouldn’t know piers Morgan either.

  17. Aurora says:

    How will they justify taking Meghan’s titles when other non-working royals have commercial ventures?

    • Amy Bee says:

      That Harry and Meghan “failed to uphold the values of the Queen” as agreed to in the one year review agreement.

      • Kalana says:

        The Queen doesn’t drink matcha! And she prefers cashew milk!

      • Lorelei says:

        Yet by letting Andrew keep his at the same time, they are implicitly saying that he *does* uphold the values of the Queen. So.

      • MsIam says:

        I guess Meghan should have invested in a tonic water company to go with the queen’s Buckingham Palace gin. Maybe Meg can develop a line of gin infused matcha drinks to keep the queen happy.

  18. WintryMix says:

    The British fixation on the titles is genuinely fascinating to me. Not just the Royal Family themselves, and the media, but the individual foot soldiers in the hate brigade on Twitter. I spent some time reading posts and comments yesterday and it was staggering how many replies said “I thought she wasn’t the Duchess anymore!” or “Why are they calling her Duchess, she gave up that title” or some other comment indicating they don’t understand the Duchess vs. HRH title situation. Or are pretending not to understand it.

    Either way, what I can’t work out is whether they actually DO think that would impact Meghan and Harry’s success, to be “stripped” of all their titles, or if they understand it would be meaningless but want to see it happen anyway out of sheer spite. It seems pretty obvious to me that nobody in the US gives a flying f*ck whether they’re HRH, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, or just Harry and Meghan. But the Twitter trolls act like they’d be nothing without their titles. Do they not understand that whether the Sussexes retain the titles in the future or not, they will still BE who they are? The queen’s grandson? Diana’s son? The woman who was abused by the royal family and then helped Harry break free? Unless they plan to flash one of those memory wipers from Men in Black in the face of everyone on the planet, there’s nothing they can do to change that.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Earl Spencer said it all Diana’s funeral: “Diana did not need a title to weave her special brand of magic” or something to that effect.

  19. Tiffany says:

    These clowns really out here thinking they doing something, but they are actually giving the company more publicity.

    Dumb. All of them.

  20. Bibi says:

    Whatever. Hope they break records sales. This is great publicity. The whole world will order, except in the uk 🇬🇧 lol

  21. GR says:

    Oat milk is more disturbing to these people than sex-trafficking kids.

  22. Jessie Quinton says:

    Prince Charles and Duchy Originals.

    Prince Edwards and Ardent Productions.

    Andres and his shady financial dealings and the Epstein dealings.

    Fergie selling access to royals for cash.

    But sure, let’s focus on the royal who used her own money to invest in a small business that sells oat milk coffee.

    • Kalana says:

      Beatrice and Eugenie also have HRHs. Princess Michael emblazons the covers of her terrible books with her HRH.

      Also, all they did was say they didn’t want to work with the rota anymore and were willing to stop working for the family to make that happen. They are still royals and members of the family. Taking away their titles or their HRHs isn’t a normal response. It’s clearly petty and based in anger if the royals do that.

  23. JT says:

    All this shows me is that the BM/RR were itching to talk about Meghan, even when they had the dumb tour, the Cambridge kids, and new photos of the queen and co. They were so bored of the new firm, they couldn’t wait to pounce on Meghan. This does not bode well for the rest. They are just promoting her investment and making her money. Keep at it Meg.

  24. Lorelei says:

    Clevr didn’t use HRH in their materials? Just “Meghan Markle?” Well in that case I’m canceling my order immediately!


  25. tee says:

    The title thing is so funny to me because The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are meaningless titles without the association with Harry and Meghan. No one cared about the peerage before it was given to Harry, and no one will care less about Harry and Meghan if ever they “strip” it away. And we all know they’ll just find some other reason to be mad.

    Please, just take them away. And have fun justifying why they deserved it when others didn’t.

    • WintryMix says:

      This is such a great point–Harry and Meghan gave “The Duke and Duchess of Sussex” their shine, not the other way around.

      • Feeshalori says:

        Really, we didn’t even know about the existence of the Sussex dukedom until it was bestowed on the wedding day. I certainly never thought, “Hmm, l wonder who’s going to eventually get the Sussex dukedom.” Even if they strip them of that title it’ll always be associated with them. So good luck ever trying to give the peerage to anyone else, unless they retire it like the Windsor dukedom.

  26. equality says:

    The Queen can’t control Meghan but it’s not because “they are a law unto themselves” but because she is a free US citizen. It would be funny if she didn’t curtsy to any of them if they ever go back because as a US citizen she does not have to do so. I think that is what disappoints a number of the Kate fans who would go on about how Meghan would have to curtsy to FFQ.

    And HRH’s shouldn’t be flogging coffee; they should be flogging gin.

    • Amy Bee says:

      I thought this as well when I read the piece. Meghan is American so they can’t bring her to heel as they would like.

  27. molly says:

    Shrieks into the void: THEIR TITLES!!!!!!!!
    Yes, no one outside of the UK cares (or even understands) this title BS. I follow the royal family very closely, and I barely understand the whole “which is more important: Duchess of York vs. THE Duchess of York” business. Meghan probably couldn’t care less about HRH, but I suspect Harry cares. (If for no other reason than he was born to care.)

    • Lorelei says:

      @Molly ITA, I think Harry would care, not because of a “loss of status” or because he thinks it would lessen the value of his brand or anything like that, but because it would just be another petty, cruel blow from his family that he didn’t deserve.

      • molly says:

        For as woke as Harry may be, he’s still the son of Charles and Diana and the brother of William. He was raised surrounded by petty and cruel. I can imagine Meghan being all, “great! Can I have a last name again?” while Harry fumes that he doesn’t care about the letters, but that it’s the “principle of it all!”

      • Feeshalori says:

        And l wouldn’t blame Harry in the least. This is his birthright and heritage. I’d feel the same way if l were him.

  28. yinyang says:

    You do you Meg. Only backwards Brits can take something as environmentally friendly and turn it into a bad thing. Republic now!

  29. Ariel says:

    If our own country wasn’t so horrifyingly racist, i would say we should just pretend the british racists don’t exist. But our country is full of them too.

    But at this point, i hope she and her husband are unbothered, and can look at them whipping themselves into a frenzy and just shrug and say, as we do in the south- well, bless their hearts.

  30. TheOriginalMia says:

    Meghan can do what she pleases with her money. She earned it honestly and can spend it where she pleases. The audacity of these people to think they have any right to tell a black woman what she can and can’t do. They still fail to realize they can’t hurt her anymore. She’s out of their reach and doesn’t have to abide by their rules any longer. Stay mad, BM & BRF!

    • Amy Too says:

      I think what bugs me about the way they’re covering this (“she’s shilling coffee, she’s flogging coffee, she’s a spokesperson for coffee,” etc), is that they’re making it sound like Meghan is getting paid to promote this brand when in reality, she is PAYING THEM for the opportunity to be a part of this business, to invest in it and support it. She has invested her own money in a company she cares about, that has a mission she cares about, that promotes the things she cares about: sustainability, women making money, women making the decisions for their own companies, fair wages, organic, wholesome ingredients, an American-based brand. When was the last time any of the royals actually spent any of their own money to promote anything they cared about? When was the last time any of the royals actually raised enough of other people’s money to support a charity or a cause that they cared about? Oh, it was Meghan? Meghan was the only one in the past couple of years to have successfully raised money, and not just “awareness,” over and over again, for a charity or cause she cared about? The rest of them are literally doing the exact opposite: SPENDING other people’s money on ridiculous outfits and train tours and PR and survey companies and private jets and helicopters anytime they go out and do an engagement. How much money did Kate’s garden cost? And did it raise any money for charity? How much did her survey cost to do? How much money did the train tour cost? Will’s dumb environmental documentary that hardly anyone saw? The fricken directors chairs and outdoor screening room they bought to promote David Attenborough’s documentary? Earthshot? The visit to that baby bank where Kate took a helicopter? Even the decent projects like Hold Still cost a bunch of money to make happen and then it’s like they TRY hard to make it not raise any money. They could have sold a book with all the photos collected in it.

  31. Mich says:

    Wait. The Palace is going to publish the stupid year-end review? I’m sure that will go over well.

    • WintryMix says:

      I noticed that phrasing also. I’m betting it will be more like a public statement after the “review” takes place rather than a published report or something.

    • Dee says:

      Here’s a summary of the report:
      Meghan and Harry: Batting 1,000
      BRF: -2
      Royal rota: -1,000
      Normal Bill: Incandescent with rage
      Katie Keen: Rage shopping

  32. Jumpingthesnark says:

    Picturing Queen Megan, Empress of the mystical land of Kizmyazz, relaxing on her throne/couch, sipping one of her oat lattes, sighing contentedly…..

  33. Likeyoucare says:

    Meghan should invest on lingerie or sex toys or even better grew a marijuana farm like katie did.
    That should teach them BRF, BM and the racists.

  34. Laura says:

    “just not happy about this overt, commercial activity”


  35. Rose says:

    The truth is that the name “Meghan Markle” is of far greater import than the title “The Duchess of Sussex”. “Meghan Markle” has world-wide recognition and is a powerful brand. She can shrug off the title and it will not negatively impact her one bit, it may make her stronger. In fact, she need not share her brand with the BRF, and by shedding the title, she takes HER shine off of THEIR family.

    • notasugarhere says:

      But by not having the titles, or having the titles stripped, the racists and haters would feel like they had ‘won’. Other royals have HRH and title AND earn a living, using their HRH and title to do so. Once again, Meghan is being singled out when the white born royals get to do whatever they want with their titles.

      • If they loose the Sussex titles, I want it to be because the Firm chose to publicly strip them of it. Let those racist asses SHOW THEIR WORK for the world to see how they treat someone who does not claim to be lily white. I’m sure it’s a message that a good many of the Commonwealth countries will hear loud and clear: “You are not worthy of us.”

  36. Jessica says:

    Harry and Meghan now have a Spotify exclusive deal. Everyone go sub the Archewell Audio podcast. There is a teaser. I can’t wait to see who’s incandescent with rage!

    • Becks1 says:

      Wait, WHAT?!?!?!? I don’t have Spotify, guess I better get it lol.

      • Jessica says:

        I opened Spotify and it immediately popped up encouraging me to sub. Sign up, I think you can get a free trial (Apple Music has something like three months free so they must have a similar deal). Spotify’s interface is super nice too, as are their customised recommendations.

    • Sarah says:

      Done! Thanks for the shout. I only have free Spotify but no issues following it and I assume I’ll be able to access the content when it comes out.

  37. GrnieWnie says:

    Tsk, tsk, what an uncouth American doing things like overtly engaging in tawdry commercial endeavors and WORKING. Work is so distasteful among the leisure classes — so American, really. Too much aspiration isn’t good for anyone; it leads people to imagine they might transcend their common class. Strip Harry and Meghan of their titles! If you aren’t earning solely from the interest on your inherited wealth or by cashing in on mummy, are you even royalty? *sniff*

  38. Jay says:

    Hmm, sure you want to draw attention to the other HRHs who are using their titles overtly to make money? Sure you want to wade into the question of why Andrew still has his title and deserves the protection and privileges of his family connections, but Meghan and Harry don’t? I would not be picking this fight. At all.

    To use a saying I’ve been seeing a lot lately, “F**k around and find out”.

  39. Shoo fly says:

    Harry’s appeal in the United States, and outside England period, is that he is Diana’s son. The Royal commentators and English right wing they trot out cannot admit that. If this was the Middle Ages and he had been banished because he was Diana’s son he still would have been leading armies and getting attention in adulthood. When they strip them of the titles, they all think that they will go the way of David and Wallis. US has one country wide religion and it’s celebrity. Harry is a permanent A list celebrity. Get over it.

    • molly says:

      That’s a perfect comparison to David and Wallis. It’s 2020. You can’t banish them to another country and assume people will forget about them or that they’re content to be forgotten. That’s not how global celebrity in the 21st century works.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      I can’t believe how short sided these people are. If they have any intelligence at all, when the one year review comes up TQ should just say something along the lines of, ” Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex continues to uphold the values of the Monarchy. As a grandmother, I am proud of what Harry and Meghan have accomplished.” Short and sweet. Then let them do their work, and periodically TQ or Charles can put out a statement that they approve of something they’ve done. The work that Harry and Meghan do would end up shining a positive light on the brf by association. A win-win for everyone.

      I have a problem with their titles being stripped. Harry is who he is. It’s part of who he is and you can’t take that from him. Also, I have a huge problem with HRH Edward The Duke of Windsor and his Duchess keeping their titles, when in my firm conviction they were Nazi COLLABORATORS. That would be a political statement (IMO) that says the brf prizes Nazis over Harry and Meghan. Now, I was born in the 1950′s. WWI and WWII was part of my life because of relatives. So, if the brf wants to go there, they will be making a lot of people angry.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      I love that the ‘banishment’ turned out to be a huge blessing for a forward looking couple like H and M. The fact that they can earn millions without leaving their gorgeous home with the many bathrooms and beautiful sea views gives me such great joy.

  40. Sarah says:

    “Fine, go and make your own money then.”

    “No. Not like that.”

    And repeat. Sigh.

  41. Mina_Esq says:

    How dare she act as role model and use her platform and her money to support and promote admirable small businesses?! How dare she use modern media (Netflix, Spotify) to reach millions more than she would through crusty old traditional media?!! How dare she exist?!!! Ugh. Good for Meghan. I’m so proud of her, as a woman. And I still don’t know why people think the Queen is clever and some sort of strategic genius. She has proven herself to be the opposite over the past couple of years.

  42. Izzy says:

    I hope she announces five more business investments before the end of 2020. It’ll be nice to send that whole lot of royal rubbish into 2021 incandescent with rage.

  43. Feeshalori says:

    I just love that the RF can never relax never knowing what’s coming out of the woodwork next from this couple. These wild and crazy kids are out of control and there’s not a thing they can do about it!😆

  44. VIV says:

    Common Meg, put your money in offshore tax havens like a real royal! Jeez.

  45. Gail says:

    All I will say is , Meghan ancestors suffered through slavery, people of color fought and are still fighting for the rights to shop where they want , sleep where they want . Fly where they want , sit where they want , wear where they want, work where they want . Invest their damm hard earned money where they
    Want , so the British royal family and all it’s dickless royal reporters can just go F themselves . The days of controlling blacks are over.

  46. M.A.F. says:

    “It’s tacky, it’s royals for hire, royals for rent.”

    I haven’t read all of the comments so maybe it has already been mentioned but didn’t Fregie, Duchess of York do this for Weight Watchers? or does that not count for some reason?

    • notasugarhere says:

      Prince and Princess Michael of Kent are frequently referred to as ‘rent a royals’ for the amount of money they make off their HRH and titles.

    • Kalana says:

      I guess the same goes for the Queen, Charles, and Anne. Commercial enterprise is royals for rent.

    • M.A.F. says:

      so in other words…this is totally fine but they just want to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

  47. Jen says:

    What about all the Dutchy stuff Charles sells?

    • notasugarhere says:

      That doesn’t benefit Charles personally. The money goes to The Duchy of Cornwall, which is not owned by Charles.

  48. lolalola3 says:

    Seriously the Royals are so over. I don’ t know why the Brits still finance them. Meghan and Harry are the best thing that ever happened to them. Not sure how someone else posting a crown emoji is under Meghan’s control but oh well. All this sniping from the palace just makes them look worse. Child Rapists, mask-flouting parents, adulterers, Elderly car accidents? They are just a family of expensive, over-entitled, worn out brats.