Prince William is possibly incandescent with rage about the Archewell site

Prince William, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle attend an Anzac Day Service

When the Duke and Duchess of Sussex launched their updated, substantial Archewell website last week, they featured two photos in the background of their intro/mission statement. Those two photos were of Meghan, as a child, with her mother Doria Ragland and the second photo was Harry as a baby, in his mother’s arms. The text reflected that too: “I am my mother’s son. And I am our son’s mother.” Harry has also been his mother’s son, in temper, passion, charisma, emotional intelligence. I tend to believe that Prince William could always see the similarities and parallels between Harry and Diana and that was one of the reasons why William is the way *he* is too. But did I ever think that sources close to William would let it be known that William is somehow pissed off at Harry for use of Diana’s image and “my mother’s son” wording? Yeah. I did think it would come to this.

Prince William will be concerned that his brother Harry ‘appears to be exploiting his mother’s iconic status’ after he used a picture with their late mother Princess Diana to help launch his new website with Meghan Markle, a royal expert claimed today. The updated Archewell website featured a picture of the young prince sitting on the shoulders of Princess Diana, taken at Highgrove in Gloucestershire in July 1986.

An introductory letter introduced Harry as ‘my mother’s son’ and said the couple had both experienced compassion and kindness ‘from our mothers and strangers alike’. But it made no reference to Harry’s father Prince Charles, or to his brother William – and royal expert Phil Dampier said this will not have gone unnoticed by the family.

He told MailOnline today: ‘I think William will be slightly worried if Harry uses Diana for any of his charitable or commercial ventures without consulting him, and I don’t think he would be happy if Harry appears to be exploiting his mother’s iconic status. It’s also very significant that Harry called himself his ‘mother’s son’ but has made no mention of Prince Charles. William is very much following now in his father’s footsteps with his environmental and conservation work. And although Harry has praised his father in the past, it seems odd not to mention him more and work in conjunction with him, rather than separately.’

Mr Dampier added: ‘I suspect that part of the reason for the emphasis on mothers is that Meghan is so close to her mother and of course is estranged from her father, so perhaps Harry is thinking of her when he concentrates only on Diana. I think that for many years Harry bottled up his feelings about his mother’s tragic death and Meghan encouraged him to dig deep and bring out some of the problems that he has been wrestling with. I think that was a good thing to start with and helped him to know himself better and recover from the demons he’d been wrestling with for many years. But there is a danger that he could become obsessed with his mother’s memory and fail to live in the present.’

Mr Dampier also pointed out how the Queen, Charles and Camilla have done a ‘magnificent job’ throughout the coronavirus pandemic of ‘inspiring’ the public, with both Charles and William having suffered from Covid-19. But he continued: ‘Harry something comes across as a remote figure pontificating from the luxury of his mansion in California and I don’t think the British public like that, however popular it is with their fans in America. I’m sure that Charles will sometimes feel that his work is overshadowed by Harry’s pronouncements and he would much prefer it if there work was co-ordinated and choreographed, but sadly those days seem to have gone – and Harry and Meghan are determined to strike out on their own, regardless of the effect it has on Charles’s work. I don’t know what Harry’s relationship with his father is at the moment, but I’m sure Charles is very sad that he sees so little of his son and of course his grandson Archie who is growing up in America, away from the royal family.’

[From The Daily Mail]

The rest of the piece is just the same old stuff – the Queen has considered stripping the Sussexes of their titles (meh), no one is getting along at the moment (for sure), and the Queen’s courtiers truly believe that they have veto power over the Sussexes’ business ventures (they do not). Really, though, the best part is that William has his knickers in a twist about Harry simply using a photo of Diana. Nevermind the fact that William has used Diana’s name and memory constantly over the years… which is his right, because Diana left behind two damaged sons and she was a loving (albeit flawed) mother to both. But I’ve always found it interesting to see how Harry and William use, invoke and remember Diana. William has always used Diana’s memory for his own narrow interests, to say that he has a right to be lazy and fuss around with rose bushes. Harry invokes his mother to inform his charitable work, and to draw parallels between his mother’s life and his family unit with Meghan and Archie.

So what will William do about Harry using a photo of their mother? Sue Harry? Whine to the British papers? LOL. I bet somebody was incandescent with rage once the Archewell site got updated.

PS… There was a lot of royal news this weekend and we’ll have so much coverage in the coming days. Please don’t threadjack! Trust that we’ve seen the stories and they’re coming up tomorrow.

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  1. Snuffles says:

    No one owns a copyright on Diana, her identity, her life or her relationships. Which we have seen play out over and over again to INFINITY with everyone who has had anything to do with her cash in on their connection or even their mere adjacency.

    So her SON who was RAISED by her and taught him powerful life lessons that he has taken into adulthood is MORE than justified in bringing her up when it comes to his life’s work.

    • Seraphina says:

      Exactly. And I agree that Harry had some deep seeded issues all along from the trauma and he is now working his way through them – with Meghan’s help. And lastly, if Wills is angry or upset about his – imagine the pompous arse that he is. Diana was mother to both and no one owns her image or her legacy.

      • Desmond says:

        Sorry to be that person, but the correct term is deep-seated, not deep seeded. It is certainly easy to confuse the two though!

        Again, sorry and I hope I have not offended you.

      • Daniella Roma says:

        Deep seated.

    • Becks1 says:

      Yes!! Agree completely

      I saw someone on twitter (a random person) say something to the effect of how she wasn’t sure she liked harry using Diana in this way and it wasn’t honoring her. I said – well it doesn’t matter what you like and I think Harry knows how to honor his mother better than you.

      The ownership people have over Diana and Harry is bizarre to me because it doesn’t seem to extend to William. Yes people were interested in William and his marriage and his kids, but if we don’t see the Cambridge kids for 6 months there aren’t demands from all the RRs to see them. It’s a different feeling.

    • Mac says:

      I recently listened to You’re Wrong About’s five part series about Diana. Michael Hobbs moves well beyond the gossip and the story is fascinating. The insights into Charles correspond directly to William.

      • Jumpingthesnark says:

        Mac, I listened to that podcast too— v interesting! I’m going to listen to more of that series.

    • Myra says:

      If anyone has any right to invoke Diana, surely it should be her sons. We’ve seen butlers, former royal protection officers, biographers, photographers, journalists, reporters, bloggers, film producers, random joe on the internet, Diana stan accounts on social media all invoke the name of Diana. There is even a Diana Legacy Award. Somehow people think that William, or anyone, is entitled to feel anger when Harry mentions his mother? smh

      • Lorelei says:

        @Myra, thank you! This is exactly it. Those are the people who William should be angry about, constantly invoking his mother’s name in order to profit. William doesn’t seem to understand that Diana was Harry’s mother just as much as she was William’s, and it’s very bizarre. What on earth would make William think that Harry should “consult” him before mentioning his own mother?!

        @Mac I second the “You’re Wrong About” podcast series about Diana. I’ve been listening to it for a while and was recommending it way before the Diana episodes…I always learn so much from that show!

        @Jumping the Shark, the first episode I ever listened to was the one about the Challenger explosion and it hooked me right away; I swear I learn more from that show than I did from 15+ years of schooling!

    • Mika says:

      That’s the thing which I just… cannot understand about this story. SHE WAS HIM MUM. He lived inside her body. He has 50 per cent of her DNA. She was the person in the world who loved him most. But somehow, for some reason, he’s not allowed to talk about her? Because what, she doesn’t belong to him?

      They’re treating the memory of Diana like one of the Queen’s dumb jewels. Something that belongs to the Royal Family and the court that you’re only allowed to trot out with special permission on special occasions if you’ve been good.

    • Nana says:

      Exactly – noone has a copyright of Diana – least of the DM, Scum etc etc. That they think they do just encapsulates all that is wrong about the tabloid industry.

    • Blondems says:

      People can be like this; my Mother is terminally ill and I live on the other side of the world with my husband. I was back for a visit and my Dad got out the old family slides on the slide projector (as you do), and I took a couple of pictures of the slides on my phone to send to my husband, because he has only ever known my Mum when she was sick. My younger sister, who lives in the same city as my parents was furious. She didn’t feel that I had the right to share these photos with my husband. (I moved overseas almost 10 years before my Mum got sick and I’d been with my husband for about 7 years at that point, but I think because of my ‘abandonment’ to her I was less a part of the family and had less rights than her.)

  2. Wiglet Watcher says:

    William really needs to take a seat if he approves this. Or speak up if he didn’t. He was not Diana’s only son and the gatekeeper to her memory.

    These attacks on the Sussex only show how weak and afraid the BRF is of the Sussex.

    • Teresa says:

      I find it really sad that it doesn’t seem he can be happy for Harry. Harry is not a close heir to the throne, you “win” that Will. But just support your brother at this point. I’m sure there is immense jealousy over the freedom Harry receives and if that’s the case then just do the same. I’m glad Harry broke free and really William could shape his future in a positive way but has seemingly chosen anger and hate instead.

      • Amy Bee says:

        Because Harry’s duty and role was supposed to be William’s main support when he became King. Harry leaving the family is seen as him abandoning William. He was supposed to sacrifice his happiness for the sake of the crown.

      • Seraphina says:

        Jealousy will not allow him to be happy for his brother – the one who went through everything with him and felt every feeling he felt. Imagine how he treats those he has no connection to.

      • Lady D says:

        So far, William hasn’t done a damn thing with his life. There is nothing there for Harry to support. Harry was supposed to provide the ideas, do the work, and then sit back with his mouth shut while Willie takes the credit. Harry must have been bored right out of his mind under BP guidelines. I’m so glad he and his family got out of England.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Harry’s previous role wasn’t to be William’s support, it was to be Billy the Bashers uncomplaining whipping boy his entire life. That’s why Bill is incandescent with rage – Harry escaped.

      • Zengirl says:

        I can’t help, from my own background, to see some of the RF individually and the RF as a whole, as narcissists. It happens at a personal level and then the institution formalizes and encourages it (someone born and gifted by God to be superior to his/her countrymen). William (and Charles and Elizabeth) are all anointed “golden children” and the spares are the “scapegoats” in the language of the Narc community. When I think of it this way, I am even more convinced that the RF needs to be eliminated as an institution in Britain (and elsewhere). And this is coming from someone who used to be a huge fan, who has visited the palace, Tower of London, read about the RF history and been a general Anglophile for so long. Not so much anymore.

      • Daniella Roma says:

        Thank God William is the heir and Hapless in the spare – the Brits would be looking at the end of the RF if that was the case

      • Alexandrajane says:

        I really agree with this, I love to see my brothers succeed

    • Nyro says:

      Amy Bee, I saw a good thread on Twitter where someone basically said the royal family engages in child abuse with the whole “spare” idea. The notion that a child be brought into this world not to live his own life and fulfill his own potential, but solely to serve as a sort of helpmeet and whipping boy to another human being is indeed child abuse. They view Harry as some kind of slave, his life belonging not only to the crown, but William specifically William. Who do these people are to say that he is wrong for wanting to go off and work and live e his life on his terms. The outrage over this, the simple act of marrying and moving away to start a new career, from that family and their supporters is truly mind boggling and sick. I saw one supposedly sane Cambridge stan refer to Harry as a “traitor” who can’t be allowed to “get away with this”. It is truly insane. These people don’t love him, they think they own him. From the royals, the establishment, and their pathetic fans, they all feel Harry’s life belongs to them. The whole thing is abuse right there in front of our faces.

      • GuestWho says:

        I’ve seen more than one comment on Twitter this weekend that specifically state that the royal family “owns” Harry. It’s chilling.

      • Tessa says:

        I see the “traitor” calling on social media about Harry. ANd go on about Harry “making a mistake” and wanting him to go back to his “family”. I see a lot of the “Queen owns” her grand children and great grandchildren which is outrageous.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Nyro, these people are insane. What was she referring to Harry “getting away with?” Using the photo on his website, or leaving the BRF in general? Because in either case he did nothing wrong, and for sure it is absolutely none of her business, whoever this person is. The ownership they feel over Harry is so creepy.

        As for the rest of this thread, I agree with everyone else who commented. It IS sad that William cannot find it within himself to be even the slightest bit happy for his brother for finally finding the love of his life and having his own little family, which we’ve known he’s always wanted. Harry is clearly over the moon, and the fact that his family has to trash him constantly is so depressing.

      • Nyro says:

        “Get away with this” meaning Harry leaving the institution and living for himself. And this was from a person who makes a point of acting like she’s a “logical” critic instead of a mugxit. They truly believe he belongs to them and William. I’ve said on here before, if William needed a new kidney, or a lung, or even a heart, they’d forcibly take it from Harry to save the heir. We’d hear about poor Harry’s death in a fatal car accident or a freak accident while working in Africa or something, and all the while they took his organs to save William. Yes, I think they are just that evil. Because Harry is merely a literal spare body in the eyes of his family and royalists. Everything about him, his body, talents and gifts, belongs to the crown and the heir. And the whole country supports this insanity and abuse.

      • equality says:

        @Tessa The Queen supposedly having guardianship of the grandchildren and people wanting her to take Archie from his parents is the creepiest. The people are wrong anyway. It’s not a law and wouldn’t stand up in an international court. It is some sort of outdated royal prerogative.

      • Kalana says:

        It’s a change from the Windsor stans gaslighting Harry as too mentally fragile to make his own decisions and he needed to return to the Windsors so they could make all his decisions for him. That or the military.

        So Harry has either been tricked or he is making his own decisions in which case he needs to be punished.

        It’s all such intense and exhausting racism. He married a woman who isn’t 100% white and supporters of white supremacy lost their minds. It’s been over three years and they’re still in hysterics about it.

      • Nic919 says:

        When they call Harry traitor they mean race traitor. Anyone who supports royalty inherently supports white supremacy and the means to support it, which included genocide and slavery.

      • Sa says:

        “ Amy Bee, I saw a good thread on Twitter where someone basically said the royal family engages in child abuse with the whole “spare” idea. The notion that a child be brought into this world not to live his own life and fulfill his own potential, but solely to serve as a sort of helpmeet and whipping boy to another human being is indeed child abuse.”

        I was born on my older brother’s birthday and my parents used to joke that I was his birthday gift. Needless to say I never found it amusing and at some point made that clear to my parents and it all stopped. I can’t even imagine expected subservience to a sibling being (a) not a joke, and (b) to come from an entire nation. It is definitely abuse.

    • Harper says:

      What I find hilarious about this story is that either William is actually incandescent again over the website and spent the past few days in Mustique fuming over this, or he hasn’t actually said anything about it, but the royal sources just assume he is incandescent because he usually explodes over everything Harry does nowadays. The royal sources know they can safely assume this line of reporting about William because they know he’s always mad about something.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Harper: your last sentence…I know I shouldn’t laugh, but god it’s so accurate

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Really good point. We never hear William is sad or disappointed. Only that he is angry.

        There’s a fundamental issue with heirs in that family.

  3. Lauren says:

    William comes across as a remote figure pontificating from the luxury of his palace in England. There, fixed it. At least Harry bought his mansion with his money, which I’m sure is more relatable to people than some being paid millions to do choo choo tours during a pandemic and to live lavishly in palaces. Anyways sorry PWT Diana was Harry’s mother as well. Suck it up.

    • Louise177 says:

      I can’t get over how the press makes a huge deal of Harry and Meghan living in a mansion but the fact that the RF lives in multiple palaces and castles isn’t an issue. Also why would Harry have to coordinate with Charles about any plans? The Sussex’s aren’t part of the RF anymore.

      • Becks1 says:

        @louise177 – exactly!!! Harry doesn’t have to run anything by Charles anymore. And like we say constantly – the royal family COULD have required that. The Sussexes were roughly OKAY with that, hence the whole part time royals thing. The royal family said no – so the Sussexes are no longer answerable to them. Too bad, so sad.

      • Nic919 says:

        I don’t understand how any British person is against Harry leaving and supporting himself and not using taxpayer money. Some of them have bought into the propaganda that has existed over the centuries to protect that family but logically if they are to be pissed at anyone, it should be the Windsors who remain on the dole. The cognitive dissonance is amazing to see with these royalists, or to be more specific the white supremacist royalists.

      • Here to agree with you both Louise177 and Becks1. Were talking a shadow photo as background to a website and one line of a joint statement! If that makes William and his family and the Rota froth at the mouth, I imagine the Sussexes actually following through with the work they’ve outlined will damn near kill them. The Firm said they’re out, but it’s just constant Yada, Yada, Yada about how they should still be acting as if they’re in! What a bunch of 🤡🤡🤡🤡’s And, as always, Kaiser so nails it in her post.

      • Nyro says:

        They’re such idiots. Yes, when you said “no” to a part-time solution, that means you now ha e no say over what they do, how they do it, or when they do it! Such clowns. It just goes to show that they took none of this seriously and truly believed HM would fall flat on their faces and end up right back under the Firm’s thumb in March 2021.

      • Tessa says:

        The Queen allowed Edward and Sophie to continue running their respective companies, after they got married. And they did get to work part time and I don’t recall Edward and Sophie not being able to use their HRH. The Queen has a precedent for allowing this, but of course she does not allow Meghan and Harry the same privilege.

      • Tessa says:

        Prince Andrew has a large estate that even includes its own chapel!

      • Lorelei says:

        @Tessa: the irony of Andrew owning a chapel, good god

      • Emmitt says:

        The problem isn’t that Harry lives in a mansion. The problem is MEGHAN living in a mansion. She’s supposed to go back to the ghetto from whence she came, not living in the lap of luxury. Meghan knows how to do for herself and as long as Harry’s with her, Harry will continue to enjoy freedom & success. Harry would do fine on his own but IMO Meghan gives him that confidence that he can do fine on his own and live well while doing it. The BRF/RR hate that. “They’re (Meghan) living in a mansion” simply translates to “They’re not supposed to be living in a mansion, they should be living in a shack and come crawling back to us after we turn off all their money.”

      • Lorelei says:

        @Nic919 I don’t think they even believe a lot of what they spout— they’re blinded by their hatred of the Sussexes and will trash them for anything, even if it makes no sense. It reminds me of MAGATs voting against their own interests out of spite. In both situations, there’s no logic, only racist hate.

        @Emmitt: sadly, yes, ITA. They think Meghan should be scrubbing the floors of their palaces, not living in one.

      • Sofia says:

        @Tessa: I don’t think Edward and Sophie worked part time for the firm. The plan for them was IIRC that they would be non-working royals with a job but just happen to have an HRH aka what Beatrice and Eugenie do. When they’re careers blew up and not in a good way, they were made working royals to avoid any future embarrassments like that one. I think Sophie’s incident also reached parliament in terms of “why do we have a monarchy?” Or something like that. It was that serious.

        Similarly Edward was made an Earl because he wanted an Earldom. Not because he’s the youngest son or wasn’t supposed to be a working royal. He’s set to be made the Duke of Edinburgh when BOTH Philip and HM pass.

      • Kalana says:

        It’s a way of telling people to not empathize with them. William and the rest also live in mansions but out of a sense of duty to the UK. 🙄 But Meghan amd Harry abandoned their duty to live in a mansion!!! Their duty being that they should have stayed in the UK and kept being used as scapegoats for the Windsors.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Things William should really be incandescent about:
      His inability to inspire
      His lack of legacy at nearly 40.
      His inability to connect and garner support from anyone except from racists and the tabloids and even that is only because they hate his brother’s wife
      His inability to earn anyone’s respect
      His inability to attract genuine, heartfelt affection from the public
      His inability to stick to one project for more than 5 minutes
      His many non producing photo ops
      His glaring disrespect for his wife
      His lack of respect for his mother’s memory
      His lack of support for his only brother, going as far as asking many relatives to reject him marrying who he wanted to
      His lack of expressed public support and love for his nephew, Archie
      Throwing his brother and wife under several buses and reversing over them to boot
      His lack of judgement – covid remarks and covid express anyone?
      His hairline
      His teeth
      I will stop here. For now.

      • Elena Rindell says:

        This is an excellent comment and very true. William should worry more about his pitiful existence instead of whining about what his brother should or shouldn’t do.

      • notasugarhere says:

        His choice to marry an inept, lazy woman who embarrasses him on the global stage.

        His choice to marry a woman he didn’t love, because he knew she was so hungry for a title and status she’d put up with a business arrangement and a cheating husband.

      • Tessa says:

        According to the Lacey book, William was totally “concerned” about the “announcement” of his baby nephew’s birth. Rather than saying he saw his new nephew, he is very cute and he is so happy for Harry and Meghan.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Elizabeth Regina your lists are always so, so good 😂👏

        @Tessa, obviously we don’t know how the Cambridges treat Archie behind closed doors (my suspicion is: not good), but from what we’ve seen publicly, they could not care less about him. And that’s being charitable. They would probably will his existence away if they could. Maybe I’m wrong and he FaceTimes with his cousins but I really doubt it. It’s just so sad; I have two little nieces and I can’t imagine just…not caring about them or seeing them.

      • Elizabeth Regina says:

        Thank you @elenarindell and @lorelei. I think I’ve found my calling in 2021. You are right @notasugarhere 🙂

      • Oh says:

        thank God, Archie in America, I hope that his relationship will be superficial with Cambridge children because if he becomes their “friend”, they will treat him the same as their father was treating Harry

  4. My3cents says:

    If only we could attach some device to William to turn all that rage to environmentally friendly energy. I bet he could light up all of Britain.

    • Dropbear says:

      Oh now that’s a genius💡idea, pun intended. That invention would definitely be a contender for Willnot’s Earthshot prize, from himself to himself..Lol

    • anotherlily says:

      When Archie was born and Harry spoke to reporters outside the Windsor Castle stables he was clearly overjoyed and amazed by, as he put it, “what women go through” in giving birth. He was full of praise for Meghan.

      The mother and child relationship begins long before birth and is rooted deep in a woman’s body. This nurturing image of motherhood is consistent with the the ‘strong’ and ‘deep’ meaning of Archewell.

      Sooner or later the BRF will have to come to terms with Prince Harry’s new direction. He can’t be outlawed or exiled. He is a born Prince, a son of the next King and that status cannot be removed from him. He has stepped down from an official public role however he retains a constitutional role as a Counsellor of State until William’s children are adults. Prince Philip and Prince Andrew are also Counsellors of State despite stepping down from royal duties. The only difference with Harry is that he is resident outside the UK . However, Covid19 is the unavoidable cause of his prolonged absence. The original intention was to spend time in both countries and Harry’s retention of the Frogmore Cottage lease is a sign that this is still the case. The BRF will have to adapt.

      • Honora says:

        That’s lovely To say about motherhood however on the other hand it’s not the case for all mothers and that doesn’t make them less of mothers.

        It’s heartwarming to see how Harry speaks about his mom

      • BodegaBay says:

        What is your opinion, then, of women who have their fertilized eggs carried to term by a surrogate? Is their mother-child relationship inferior just because it wasn’t their own uterus?

    • Kalana says:

      Everyone compares William to an 🥚 but maybe his final form is really 💡

    • What an absolutely, KEEN idea, My3cents. That would nicely tie right in with his and his father’s environmental work.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      LOL! That would be the first useful bit of productive emotional energy he would bring to that family.

  5. The Duchess says:

    I think William will forever be incandescent with rage at anything Harry decides to do with his freedom. The majority of the public funnily recognise Harry as ‘Diana’s only son’ because of how perfect he has imitated and respected her legacy. If William is angry at that, then he’s only got himself to blame. He should’ve thought twice before being a cheating, lazy, spoilt little brat who cries at every chance he gets because his little brother is doing way better than him. He’s pushing 40, he ‘ought to grow up.

    • Snuffles says:

      He can’t even claim to be as successful as his father either. At least Charles can say he has created successful projects, businesses and charitable endeavors. At least Charles is disciplined and works hard. At least Charles has his passions that he has successfully pursued.

      I said it before and I will say it again, William has managed to take only the worst aspects of his parents into adulthood and Harry has taken the best aspects of them. Harry has his mother’s empathy, compassion, ability to connect with people from all walks of life and he learned from Charles how to run a charity, a business and discipline and hard work. William has only taken jealousy, entitlement and a raging temper that he never learned to direct into something useful.

      • Winter Day says:

        100% agree.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        This hits the nail straight on the head. Will is the worst of both parents and is indulged on top of that because he is the heir. Harry actually inherited the empathy and business acumen to build a successful business and life.

      • My Two Cents says:

        agree as well, and wanted to add, but have they no shame to constantly run to the papers about their anger? i mean, it’s almost daily now. We know they stalk H&M’s every move, but can’t they at least try to be a bit cooler about it?

      • Donna B. says:

        You are absolutely right & I believe QE, her mother, the courtiers are responsible for this too.

    • Wiglet Watcher says:

      It’s really shown how poorly the BRF machine works anymore. They need spares to shield the heirs from themselves. Even now all of this is to attack Harry and his family like they never left. Because William is pathetic. They’re just attacking Harry’s smart business and philanthropy choices. Which… doesn’t work.

      The BM is grasping at straws trying to attack a family that’s being embraced by everyone.

      • Tessa says:

        This all does not bode well for Charlotte and Louis. Being “spares” . The treating George more special has started early.

      • Lorelei says:

        @WW that’s a great point. It’s just sort of accepted that the heirs are all going to be enormous a$$holes just like Charles was and William is now, necessitating someone to throw under the bus to distract from their own poor behavior. (I mean I know the actual reason is ostensibly to have a replacement if the heir dies early, but they’ve really embraced the idea of the spare being a mess in order to make themselves look better.)

        @Tessa: it is wild to me that W&K don’t seem to realize that the way they’re treating Harry is feeding into the whole gross “spare” role, and is only going to hurt their own children in a matter of a few years.

        I don’t think Kate is particularly smart, but I did think that when it comes to her kids, she would at least realize that this is setting a horrendous precedent for how Charlotte and Louie will be viewed and treated, but apparently not.

      • Nic919 says:

        But Billy and Cathy were the eldest child in each of their own families and treated as special compared to their siblings and so they do not comprehend the unfairness of doing that to their own non eldest future heir children. At least Charlotte won’t be alone in being treated as secondary because she will have Louis there with her. Neither adult has shown the intelligence to understand how inappropriate it is to place one child above another one. Even miss early childhood basic psychology. Charlotte and Louis are going to need other adults to help them out because their parents prefer to uphold a psychologically destructive manner of upbringing that has proven to damage generations of Windsor kids instead of pushing back against the heir above all else nonsense that affects both the heir and the spares, as proven by William’s incandescent rages and controlling nature as well as Kate’s total codependency on her mother.

      • VIV says:

        The attitude towards “spares” is especially strange because there were multiple recent spares that became King (recent in the line, not as close in time given QEII’s especially long reign). Do they not think it’ll happen again? That keeping a spare who is unprepared and emotionally damaged will suddenly be OK if called to duty? That if they spend all of their PR efforts against the spare and they’re suddenly needed the country won’t remember the lifetime of smears? I really don’t understand it.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Nic919, I agree that Charlotte and Louis are going to need help, and you know who would have been the best person to do that? HARRY.

        I never really thought about it until now, but this whole mess has also cost the Cambridge kids their relationship with their uncle, and Harry is probably so upset that he won’t be more present in their lives. Hopefully once they’re older they might reach out to the Sussexes on their own, but god knows what their parents have said about Harry and Meghan— they could have poisoned them against Harry and Meghan.

        What a sad situation, and all so unnecessary. Harry would be the *best* uncle, and he probably misses the kids; he might not have spent much time with Louis, but I’m sure George and Charlotte loved him. And they’ll miss out on that relationship because their father is a jealous little bitch and their mother has no backbone (and is also a jealous little bitch). It just sucks for all of the kids involved.

  6. Isa says:

    Incandescent with rage, fluorescent with petulance, potato potahto.

  7. Amy Bee says:

    I suspect the phase “You’re just like your mother!” was thrown at Harry a lot, after Diana died, by Charles and William and not in a positive way. It’s not the first time Harry has referred to himself as his mother’s son. He did it in his speech at the Sentable dinner that took place a day after the palace announced officially that he and meghan were stepping down as working royals. It would seem that Harry has taken it on as a badge of honour. Good for him.

    As for William being incandescent with rage, I have no doubt he is and judging by the slew of stories that have come out this weekend, he’s not the only one and they have been triggered by the launch of the Archewell website last week.

    Another thing, Harry and Meghan are probably thankful everyday that the palace was stupid enough to reject their offer to be half in half out. They are in total control of their lives and have the privacy they wanted.

    • Lady D says:

      My goodness, how they have been triggered by the launch of Archewell.

    • Nyro says:

      I think you’re onto something about his family comparing him to Diana and not in a positive way. Whenever he says “I am my mother’s son” it sounds like he’s reappropriating a slur.

    • Lorelei says:

      I think part of the reason it makes William so angry is because deep down, he knows the comparisons are right. Harry IS a lot more like Diana, and while I’m sure she would have loved her children equally, I believe she would have liked & admired Harry more as a person.

      Obviously this is just me (a nobody, lol) speculating, but imo if William felt secure about his own relationship with Diana and her memory, why would he freak the hell out whenever Harry so much as mentions her? It seems like it’s very triggering for William. JMO

      • Chrissy says:

        I think you’re on to something, Lorelei. Didn’t I read somewhere that PWT confronted his mother about her personal life shortly before she died? If true, he might have guilt or unresolved issues with regards to Diana, so his insistence that only he can be the custodian of her legacy might be related to that. Of course, this is BS but, because he is so headstrong and spoiled, a happy and fulfilled Harry is naturally in the firing line because he is obviously continuing her legacy of compassion as well as having a happy private life and PWT can’t handle that. Either way, PWT has some serious issues but it too stubborn to acknowledge them and/or he has no one he trusts to help him deal with them.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Chrissy those are all good points.

        I was also just thinking that part of the reason William gets so enraged is because this is all his own doing. It did not have to be this way, and it only is because of choices that HE made. He could have done something similar to Invictus or Sentebale, but he never did. He could have been happy for his little brother when he found love, but instead he turned it into this giant, competitive sh!tshow (with a lot of help from his buddies in the press) that resulted in the Sussexes literally needing to leave the country in order to find some peace. He could have married someone more like Meghan, who would have brought energy and ingenuity to the role, but he didn’t. This is all on him. So now he’s bitterly jealous of Harry and Harry’s new life, seemingly unaware that he is the one who made it happen! And I personally believe that deep down, he knows it, but it’s as if he’s incapable of being a better person; he’s so consumed by envy and anger.

      • SomeChick says:

        I don’t think William even thinks he has issues, much less would he ever acknowledge it.

    • Zengirl says:

      I think this is all correct. More so that it is probably openly discussed in the BRF. I personally believe that Harry realizes how disappointed Diana would have been to see him and his family treated this way by the RF, and that he decided to double down and use his future, with or without the royal family, to fulfill what his mother tried to do: build a humanitarian role on a grand scale aside from the RF.

  8. Anne K says:

    I love that Harry has unreservedly and unapologetically taken up his mother’s legacy. He has always honored his mother’s memory and is telling the world he is his mother’s son.
    Enough of the British royal family maligning her memory and using it to prop up their image, enough of the British press who tormented Diana till her dying day where they then pretended they loved her and were not at fault, enough of Diana’s staff making a living off of her memory all these years.
    Harry will continue her legacy. I always thought he would be the one to do it because he is so much like her. He has the best of her.
    Yes, both are her sons and both have a right to mourn her however they want but William is not the gatekeeper to her memory. He needs to get over himself.

  9. Sofia says:

    Harry does not have to ask William’s permission on anything about Diana and vice versa. She was the mother of both of them so they both can speak about her when they want.

    • Nicole says:


    • Merricat says:

      Yes, it’s the one thing they can’t change or control: Diana is Harry’s mother, and he has become a kind of “people’s prince” by stepping away from the circus. The Firm learned nothing from the first time.

  10. ABritGuest says:

    So Phil Dampier is complaining that Harry is using his mother’s iconic status but also that Harry didn’t evoke his father? Typical royalist double speak. Also it’s so annoying how much royal experts’ opinions based on guess work is given so much authority. “I don’t know what Harry’s relationship with Charles is like but I’m sure”. Eyeroll

    The royals& people like Dampier will have to deal with fact that days of Sussexes coordinating with royal schedules are over. They are in different countries & different time zones& Harry is no longer a firm employee. That’s price the firm paid for turning down Sussexes’ proposed working model& maintaining measure of control. Just like Harry& Archie not being in the U.K is the price of their smear campaign.

    I personally don’t think it’s fair to say either Harry or William ‘use’ their mother or her memory. The way they bring up Diana is similar to many people I know who have lost a much loved parent.

    • Amy Bee says:

      We all know that if Harry had said anything about Charles on his website Phil Dampier would have accused him of using the Royal Family for commercial means. Even if Harry wanted to include his father he is prohibited from doing so I don’t get why Dampier and others are crying on Charles’ behalf.

    • Marni112 says:

      Agree with you about the endless innuendo. Also agree about W and H’s comments about their mother. Nothing unusual there .I also think they both have a difficult job between publicly acknowledging her but also keeping a part of her for themselves that is private.

    • notasugarhere says:

      It is always interesting to see the differences between how William and Harry approach the Diana issue, as Kaiser writes above. William uses it to cover his ass, Harry uses it to inspire himself and others.

      ‘But I’ve always found it interesting to see how Harry and William use, invoke and remember Diana. William has always used Diana’s memory for his own narrow interests, to say that he has a right to be lazy and fuss around with rose bushes. Harry invokes his mother to inform his charitable work, and to draw parallels between his mother’s life and his family unit with Meghan and Archie. ‘

    • Lorelei says:

      @ABritGuest, Dampier comes across as unhinged here, imo, speaking so confidently about William and Harry’s inner thoughts and motivations when in reality, he doesn’t know any more than we do ffs.

      And ITA that neither William nor Harry should be accused of “using” their own mother. She was their mother; are they just supposed to never mention her again because the press might attach some malicious intent every time they mention her? It’s absolutely ridiculous

      @AmyBee they’ve set it up so that it’s a lose-lose situation for Harry either way. If he talks about Diana they accuse him of “using” her (his own mother! JFC) and if he doesn’t, they’ll claim he doesn’t love her as much as William does or some nonsense.
      I think Harry realized this at some point, so going forward he’s just doing his own thing and ignoring whatever William and the trashy tabloids say about it. They will find an angle to bash him no matter what he does, he knows he’s never going to win, and thankfully he seems to have moved on from caring. I don’t understand how the people who write about him this way sleep at night, though.

      ETA @Marni I agree— the press has basically put both of them in a difficult situation, having to manage what, where and how they talk about Diana publicly while still remembering her as just their mom and keeping their memories private. It’s gross and sad.

    • Kalana says:

      Phil Dampier was behind #KateMiddletonSuccessStory when he tried to steal Meghan’s success at SmartWorks and give it to Kate. I’m surprised he’s showing his face again.

  11. Cecilia says:

    Im so sorry harry had to deal with this maniac for as long as he has💔

  12. Harla says:

    Wow, I could barely get through reading this article without laughing out loud! Harry needs to “consult” with William before saying the name Diana or posting pictures of his own mother?! Are you freaking kidding me?! The whole world saw William and Charles stay silent while Meghan was torn apart by the press and days old Archie was portrayed as a chimp, imho neither of them deserve any mention, ever by the Sussex’s. The royal press got what they wanted, Meghan out of the country, the Cambridge’s got what they wanted, all the press attention so why can’t they be happy and leave the Sussex’s out of their every news cycle?

    • equality says:

      The BM didn’t just want them out of the country; they wanted them to be unpopular and broke so that they would split up and Harry would return to be the single Prince.

      • Becks1 says:

        If it weren’t so sad and pathetic, it’d be laughable how much the BRF underestimated H&M. They really thought their popularity was bc they were royals. If that was the case, then Kate and Will would also be incredibly popular. No, they are popular bc of who they are and bc of their work. And that’s something that’s just amplified now that they are free.

      • Crumpets and Crotchshots says:

        This. They wanted to destroy them. They wanted Harry to be dependent, a failure, and to come crawling back. They over estimated their own power and underestimated Meghan’s incredible resourcefulness and business chops. Whhhhhooooopppsssies…..

      • My Two Cents says:

        Becks1 and Crumpets exactly, H&M were and are underestimated, and I love how they are a step ahead the whole time! I can’t wait to see what happens next, it’s getting so good!

    • notasugarhere says:

      I don’t think they wanted Harry and Meghan out of the country. The Fail wanted them in the UK, hamstrung and trapped under W&K’s dictatorship, and required to put up with the racism and abuse in exchange for their position in the royal family.

      The tabloids and RRs make money off their hate. They’re incandescent with rage that Harry and Meghan escaped, are earning millions on their own, and keep winning lawsuits against the tabloids.

    • Lorelei says:

      @Harla the word “consult” put me over. the. EDGE. Harry does not need to “consult” anyone before speaking about his own mother. (Nor does William, for that matter.)

      @Becks ITA and I think that’s the root cause of the meltdown we’re seeing right now. The BRF and the BM both honestly believed that Harry & Meghan’s popularity was solely due to their membership in the family and “firm.” I don’t think they ever seriously considered for even a second that the Sussexes wouldn’t fail and come crawling back— it seems like for them, it was a matter of when, not if. They never, ever thought the Sussexes would do so well once they left.

      Now they’ve been proven wrong (over and over again, lol) and they are SHOOK. No one cares about the “HRH” or whatever — they’re simply Harry and Meghan, and they’re global superstars. If simply being royal was enough to make one spectacularly popular, successful, and most of all interesting, we’d be having this conversation about Sophie or Kate right now, lol.

      It’s gross that they continue to trash the Sussexes, but at the very least it’s satisfying to know the reason for the trashing is that they know they lost, so they’re angry, desperate, and irrelevant. It’s kind of fun watching them realize this in real time. They are absolutely losing their minds, and H&M couldn’t care less. 🥰

    • Ann says:

      I know! No wonder he struggled for so long, as he has said, with depression. They sent him right back to school after she died, he wasn’t supposed to be asked about her, probably felt like he shouldn’t/couldn’t talk about her. His mother, the closest person to him in the world, probably. I am sure he was close with both William and Charles but they didn’t give him that unconditional affection and warmth that she did. She wasn’t a perfect mother but she was a loving, involved one. Now he simply posts a picture of himself as a baby with her, something any normal person would feel free to do without fear of being called out, and they have a problem with it?! It is beyond messed up.

      • Nyro says:

        Wasn’t he back at school like just a week or two after the funeral? Awful. And then with Diana gone, it was open season on him to be thrown under the bus by his own family and used as tabloid fodder for cover. I mean, imagine getting caught smoking weed and then your dad having his flunkies in the media write that you’ve got a drug problem and had to go to rehab, all so he can look like a caring and involved father. God, these people are monsters!

        I really hope he writes a book one day and airs every one of those bastards out.

  13. minx says:

    That photo of Diana and Harry is just sweet/heartbreaking.

  14. line says:

    He has to sit down he’s not Diana’s only son. Then he and
    the Middletons use the image of Diana constantly to protect against critics about their absences from professional etiquette (Kate cosplay Diana’s dress style in a creepy way since the waity Katie’s era).

    So William has nothing to say about how Harry invokes Diana’s memory. Then unlike William, Harry to always honor the memory of Diana by taking up the torch of her commitment for example against the proliferation of anti-personnel mines or the fight against AIDS.

    The one who boil William is that Harry is really his mother’s son. He inherits his best human qualities while William has the less flattering personality traits of his mother.

  15. MsIam says:

    William has turned into the posh version of Samantha Markle. I guess next he’ll announce he’s writing a book about the whole thing.

    • Lorelei says:

      @Msiam, damn that’s a good comparison! William and Samantha really are cut from the same cloth.

    • Kalana says:

      The Windsors are just as trashy as the Markles. They just have more money. But everyone in this family is fighting with each other and gossiping about each other.

  16. equality says:

    I wonder if he uses the phrase because, like Diana, he is now outside of the working royals and doing charity his own way.
    You can live in luxury and not seem remote as long as you are in the UK? I guess, Harry was supposed to be content with his cottage on a corner of one of the Queen’s estates and not have his own estate since he is just the spare? Then why are Anne, Edward and Sophie allowed to have large estates?
    If he had mentioned Charles or any “working royal” on his website, there would have been the backlash of “trading on royal connections” so now all they have to work with is “poor Charles” and “trading on Diana”. She should be left in peace unless it is William getting the good PR from her name.
    Harry is living more in the present than the other royals who seem stuck in a different century with their clothing and protocols.

    • Cj says:

      Exactly @equality! They’d be complaining about how he’s using the royals if he’d mentioned anyone in the family other than Diana!

      Also I’m in the U.K. and given that the reporters and royals didn’t want them here, I’m surprised to see this person seem so concerned over how Harry is perceived here… he’s not a British royal right, so by their own standards, why does it mattar what the British think of him? He lives in America now. And I don’t see the rest of the world complaining… (I’m Canadian and with all the brexit and other news the last few years, it really seems like British media think they’re the centre of the universe and the only opinion that matters…)

  17. TeamAwesome says:

    Honestly, any time anyone makes noise about Harry or even His Incandescent himself “using” Diana, there needs to be a bat signal posting of those children walking behind their mother’s coffin.

    • Christine says:

      I would extend this bat signal to any time the press mentions the queen taking away Harry and Meghan’s HRH status, and they deserved to lose them. We have seen how this story ends, with two little boys walking behind their mother’s coffin. How in the world did the royal family think it was going to work out better for them, this time?

      No one is dead, so that’s a perk, but they lost Harry and Meghan, and all the good they could have done in the name of the royal family. Thankfully, for the rest of the world, it has worked out far better than anyone could have anticipated, with Harry and Meghan showing off in spectacular fashion how powerful they are together, and without the royal family. But honestly, how no one in the family or their advisors brought up how it backfired epically and tragically when Diana’s HRH status was removed baffles me to the bone.

  18. Bex says:

    It’s wild how these tabloids think William is the gatekeeper of Diana.

    Three years ago, he had no problem invoking her legacy in the documentary about her (and got a good bit of great PR, as well as pushback because he didn’t include Charles). He needs to pick a lane.

    • Amy Bee says:

      I don’t believe he was driving force behind that documentary because he was barely in it compared to Harry. I don’t think he feels the same way about Diana that Harry does. That’s understandable given he was already a teenager when she died but I do think he sees himself as the gatekeeper and the arbiter of when people including Harry are allowed to talk about her. When this documentary and the 7 days one came out in 2017 it was declared that these would be last time such tributes would be made by Harry and William. I believe this was agreed to to get William to participate in the projects. The statue I suspect is more William’s idea than Harry’s

      • February-Pisces says:

        William is an aristo through and through. Even though Diana was more blue blooded than Charles, she was a maverick and did things differently and broke their rules which is why the aristos looked down on her. Unlike Willie, Harry always made friends easily outside of that circle. William and Kate think the whole world begins and ends with the aristocracy. Diana tried to break free of them, and now so has harry.

        I think William is embarrassed by certain things his mother has done, such as her reaction to Charles cheating. When it came to his own marriage, he never thought “I don’t want to be a cheater like my dad” but thought “I can’t marry someone who will act like my mother”. He clearly thought Diana was the problem there, not Charles, hence why he made sure kate would put up with anything.

        Harry is proud of his mother, William pretend to be.

      • Nyro says:


        All of this!! William clearly sees his mother as someone who was the problem. He’s totally taken on the Windsor stance regarding his mother. In his eyes, his mother was wrong and “let the side down”, as the posh like to say, because she had the nerve to not only be hurt by her husband’s infidelity and emotional abandonment, but to challenge him on it, both privately and publicly.

  19. Eenie Googles says:

    I truly think Diana would love how much he is upsetting the BRF. Not the fighting with the brother maybe, but the sticking it to the royals, yes.

    • February-Pisces says:

      She would be so damn proud of harry. He absolutely is his mothers legacy. William on the other hand has turned into everything she most likely feared.

      • Midge says:


      • windyriver says:

        Harry is also his father’s legacy, which I think Charles knows, deep down. THIS is what the monarch that follows Charles, with his impressive body of work as Prince of Wales, should be.

        That person is not and will never be William. But he’s the heir. So the only alternative is to drag Harry down by whatever means possible.

        The significant partnerships announced on the Archewell site, the Netflix and Spotify deals, the donations that flow to charities associated with the Sussexes, show that strategy just isn’t working, certainly not outside the UK. I bet the RF and BM just can’t believe they can’t make it happen.

      • Nyro says:

        Windyriver, this is so true and I hope it bothers Charles for the rest of his days.

      • windyriver says:

        @Nyro – What’s curious, if you think about it, is the article goes extensively into how William is upset about Harry using references to Diana, etc., but all it says about HIS work is, he’s following in his father’s footsteps on the environment and conservation. Not that Harry should be coordinating his work with Will.

        It’s Charles who “would much prefer it if their [Harry & Meghan’s] work was coordinated and choreographed” – with his own work. Sort of implies their work and Charles is on the same level. Possibly my conclusion is a bit of a stretch, but it’s interesting.

    • Lorelei says:

      @Eenie, I know how petty this is, but I can’t help but enjoy the thought of Diana up there, smirking at the mess the family is in

  20. Joy says:

    William literally married a Diana cosplayer so he needs to chill.

    • Keen Kate says:

      Shame she only copies her clothing and not her empathy, kindness, work ethic and a thousand other actual important things.

  21. El says:

    After reading this, I became curious and went to Archewell. At least on my phone, you can barely see the pictures as they are behind text. I only even saw Diana eclairs I new she was there. Maybe on a bigger screen the pictures aren’t behind text but they are faded out to not draw the focus. Much ado about nothing.

    • Mooshe1 says:

      I agree. They had to find something to whine about because it’s so well done. They think it’s fine to undermine Diana by claiming she was manipulated to do an interview when she’s not here to defend herself but how dare Harry pay tribute to her. The royal family threw Diana away, future king or not William and Harryare brothers and are on even footing when it comes to Diana. Diana’s work was based around kindness and so is Archewell. Even if Harry does projects with WaterBear he can’t mention the royal family or he’ll be “cashing in” on the RF. Charles has been preaching conservation for decades, revealing their website will overshadow him anyway.

      • Tessa says:

        What is the most outrageous is the media claiming Harry “cooperated” with the Crown and “betrayed his family.” The previews of the season 4 were around before Harry and Meghan signed up with Netflix.

  22. Bettyrose says:

    That piece is breathtakingly cruel. I don’t know why this still surprises me but how can people, the RF, courtiers, and reporters alike, truly have no conscience about being so hurtful? They don’t give Meghan and Harry any space at all to recover from the last round. At some point, you think they’d want to let their previously cruel words have time to settle.

    • MsIam says:

      @Bettyrose what is really flabbergasting is how the media, BRF, courtiers, etc. will then turn around after these cruelties and wonder why the Sussexes don’t want to come back. They truly are like the abusive partners who, after they’ve beaten the hell out of you, wonder why you don’t want to get back together?

    • February-Pisces says:

      Remember when Diana’s bodyguard died, the one she was close to, she thought they had “bumped him off”. She used to have her apartment swept for bugs and knew when her phone was being tapped. Diana knew what these people were capable of and so does harry.

    • Lorelei says:

      @BettyRose, same. I commented upthread that I don’t understand how these people sleep at night, and I really don’t.
      Can you imagine making your living by treating people you don’t even know in this manner for decades on end? It’s ludicrous and I’m so happy that Harry GTFO of there.

  23. GuestWho says:

    “…he would much prefer it if there work was co-ordinated and choreographed, but sadly those days seem to have gone – and Harry and Meghan are determined to strike out on their own, regardless of the effect it has on Charles’s work.”

    Oh, Charles…that ship has sailed. Wasn’t pushing H&M to the back generally the way their work was coordinated and choreographed? How arrogant, short-sighted, and laughable to think that that was going to continue now that they are free.

    • MsIam says:

      Harry has dedicated everything to Diana’s memory while Charles wants everyone to believe that Diana was a crazy person who wouldn’t go along to get along. So as long as those two things are true, coordination ain’t happening. Charles and William are both frustrated and jealous that Harry has been able to move on in life while both of them are stuck in a holding pattern waiting for someone else to die so they can take over.

    • Lizzie says:

      They keep rewriting history. Harry wanted to stay part time but his family said no. If they had not been so short sighted then their work would have been coordinated. Also, Charles has to accept that no one is overshadowing him. That is just his staff placating him. His work sinks or swims on its own.

      • And I say, thank God, the Queen put her (or William’s) foot down and said they were full out. Given how nasty the family’s behavior and leaks to and manipulation of the press have been since then, can you imagine how awful it would be for the Sussexes to have remained half in? The nasty press, the demands for constant and complete access to every detail of their lives, the analyzing of every word uttered, every move made, and every action belittled, and the demand that they do even less than the Cambridge’s so the Cambridge’s could shine……I’m so glad the Sussexes are OUT! All that nastiness is still coming at them, but they do not have to kowtow to it. They can make their own decisions and live their best lives.

      • Nyro says:


        I honestly think the Sussexes asking for a part-time situation was strategic on their part. They had to have known that that would mean the BRF would be privy to every potential deal, every home purchase, Archie’s schooling, etc. No way would Netflix or Spotify sign them knowing that the Queen and her courtiers would have to be involved and I’m sure HM knew that too. I think HM offered part-time knowing that they’d be stupid enough to turn it down. That way they can say they tried to compromise but the queen said what she said, and that’s that.

      • Mads says:

        @Nyro, I so agree with you. I suspected they wanted total freedom and were wise enough not to ask for it specifically. The monarch was dumb to give it to them. You don’t throw your best assets away.

    • Lorelei says:

      @GuestWho: they’re really revealing how stupid they think their readers are. They’re constantly contradicting themselves, taking their marching orders from the palaces and saying whatever they need to say in order to support that day’s narrative. No matter if it’s the exact opposite of the nastiness they churned out yesterday. It’s as if they think their readership will just…never notice this? The only thing consistent about them is the hypocrisy.

  24. Gail says:

    Oh for F sake ,Charles and William wanted distance from Harry and Meghan, do they remember? They didn’t want embarrassment or shame or exploitation bought to them and their precious monarchy, rejecting hate speech was wrong . Calling for end to racism also wrong . So be careful what you whine for. Now sit the F down spineless Charles and dickless William

  25. February-Pisces says:

    William wants to strip harry of absolutely everything including their mother. Remember that documentary last year where William was talking about his grieve for his mother? Literally no one watched in which is disappointing for Willie because mentioning Diana usually does the trick in getting him sympathy and attention. However I would never take away his right to talk about his own mother, and that’s exactly the same for harry. The fact William wants to take away harrys right to talk about his own mother is disgusting, yet Willie thinks he can talk about her all he wants. Gawd I despise him.

    • Seraphina says:

      Correct and whole heartedly agree to all you said. And yes, Wills uses his mother as his pity card – where as Harry draws attention to his late mother’s work and follows in her footsteps. That must really burn Will’s rear.

      • kelleybelle says:

        It does indeed. That’s why Will and Kate “toured” Pakistan, because he wanted to use Diana to gain public attention too after Harry and Meghan’s successful South African tour to highlight/pay respect to Diana’s work. There was absolutely zero reason for them to spend money and time going to Pakistan, where Kate gave a “speech” by reading off a piece of paper. “William and can see how family is at the heart of your culture.” Wow! What a revelations!! William looked so bored and embarrassed and wanting to be anywhere but standing there. All Kate had to say when asked about the tour was that she was looking forward to the food. That was it. That whole stunt was just too lame for words. William and Kate wanted to go to Australia too, but were told no. During the wildfires no less. No respect for them at all. That silly Covid train tour sealed the deal for me.

      • My Two Cents says:

        kelley, I remember Kate’s ‘speech’! and Will’s embarrassment! he really did look around like he wished the ground would open up !

      • Nic919 says:

        Kate’s “speech” in Pakistan was a disgrace. She is almost a decade into this and she can barely read off paper? Get her some reading glasses (she is of an age where that might be needed) or teach her to read, but it’s beyond pathetic for her to have been so bad.

    • Tessa says:

      I noticed a pattern with William. When he got criticized for something, he then plays the Diana card. Now he can do that and also bring out the children for PR as well.

    • Tessa says:

      William actually said publicly he misses his mother every day. His fans praise him and at the same time Harry is accused of “using his mother” and “getting money for it.” No wonder Harry left with his family. I don’t blame him.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Makes me recall W&K banning Meghan from the private Diana memorial service at Althorp, because she wasn’t official yet. They denied Harry the comfort of the woman who loves him, out of their cruelty and their own PR. Had their kids and nannies there, but banned Meghan.

      • Tessa says:

        Yes, and I notice this rule did not apply to Chelsy. She was allowed to attend the Diana memorial services and concert and she got to sit next to Harry at the Concert, and they were dating and no engagement happened. Harry was sure Meghan was the “one” apparently by the time of that memorial service where William decreed she could not attend.

      • notasugarhere says:

        It was July 2017, a few months before they announced their engagement. And it was *private*. No justifiable reason for W&K to deny Meghan being there, they merely did it to hurt Harry and Meghan.

      • Seraphina says:

        @nota – cruel indeed, and Wills pulling rank.

      • Oh says:

        Why didn’t Harry do anything at the time??? Why did he let William control him? Meghan should have attended, whether William liked it or not, or Harry shouldn’t have attended if they didn’t accept his “future wife”

      • Lorelei says:

        (@Oh I wrote this comment before I saw yours and totally agree with everything you said!)

        @Nota I still get so sickened whenever this story is mentioned. It was done solely out of pure cruelty and spite. I wonder what would have happened if Harry basically thought “they can all fck off” and brought Meghan with him anyway? Would William actually have made a scene at a memorial for his own mother?

        Anyway, I think Meghan really boosted Harry’s confidence by making him realize he did not need to keep taking this BS treatment. I suspect that he already knew something was very wrong with the way he was treated by his family, but Meghan helped him to crystallize it and then act on it.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I’m sure William would have pitched a fit, had his uncle refuse to let Meghan onto the estate with Harry, and make the entire memorial about himself not about their mother. If Harry had refused to attend, W&K would have leaked that info to the tabloids under headlines of, ‘Evil Meghan tears Harry away from the memory of his beloved mother’ or some other crap.

      • Nic919 says:

        There is no way that in late July 2017 they didn’t know that Harry and Meghan were getting married. I am sure planning discussions had already started. William is a total ass to have kept her from that.

      • Sofia says:

        Which was just so stupid IMO. Who cares what stage him and Meghan were at, if Harry wanted her there, she should have been allowed to be there.

      • Kalana says:

        Earl Spencer also didn’t want Meghan there. He tweeted the racist cake decoration of Meghan at the Althorp food festival. Makes sense why he was not invited to Archie’s christening. I don’t know if he was even invited to the wedding evening reception.

    • GuestwithCat says:

      I believe he should have gotten sympathy and attention from his family when he was a child and teen. I’m sure he got attention as the heir, but he didn’t get the right kind of attention. And that’s why he’s the mess he is now. If only he had the self awareness to get therapy like Harry did. But he’s probably fooled himself into thinking he’s satisfied with the way things are.

  26. Gail says:

    May I also find it funny that they a said the half in/ half out proposal won’t work but yet Harry is to work along Charles on his causes. And why the fuck does it matter that Harry lives in one mansion, the bloody royals live in many many mansions infact people call
    Them palaces . Get over your bullshit already British media .

    • Palaces whose upkeep and maintenance are paid for by the peasants living in little houses while the Royals sock their money away in offshore accounts. At least the Sussexes are paying their own way. Even Andrew still gets £300,000 of yearly security (3 person team) as he hides out at Windsor because the Queen threw a fit about him losing it and had her team intervene. Why do you need security when you’re sitting at home or riding around locked down royal grounds?

  27. Implicit says:

    Bahahahahahahahaja Wills light the UK with your rage baby lol And then let’s talk about rosebushes

  28. Gail says:

    Charles would love to see Harry And Archie. Not Harry wife or Archie mom though. However he doesn’t seem to want to see them enough to call up the tabloids and say stop with the racist abuse .Willy might be use to always getting what he wants but news flash Diana nor Harry are a piece of your stolen monarchy. They are people. Free people

  29. Deanne says:

    So William can throw around his Mother’s name and image whenever he wants, but Harry has to consult with him if he wants to mention his Mother or use a photo of her? Gee, that seems fair. What kind of narcissistic ass thinks that this is reasonable?

  30. Midge says:

    Diana is his mother and he can decide how he would like to honor her. All of the critics need to eat a bag of dicks.

  31. Likeyoucare says:

    Harry need permission from william to talk about his mom memories.
    Next, harry need to ask permission when talking about britain because britain is own by william.
    Then, harry must not use english language because english is created by william ancestor.

  32. Pétulia says:

    The sense of entitlement from British people, RR and the BM to Harry’s life doesn’t seem to extend to William I wonder why ?
    The thing with Harry and Meghan is the media can gain as much money from positive stories or negative ones. So why choose hate ?

    • Lorelei says:

      @Petulia that’s an excellent question, but unfortunately it seems like that’s what their audience wants. They’re catering directly to the racists who despise the Sussexes and gleefully eat up any piece of negative “news” about them. JMO

    • Nyro says:

      The royal family exists for the sole purpose of reinforcing the class system. So that dynamic has to be played out publicly by the family itself in order for that to happen. The monarch and the heirs at the top, the spares at the bottom. William’s the aristocrat and Harry’s the working class who gets shat upon.

      • Pétulia says:

        @Nyro these two powerful forces don’t actually know the power they have on each other I mean the BRF and the BM. Because if the BM actually backed the Sussexes they would have been in a place where they can demand anything from the top.
        And from the BRF they didn’t even need to support the Sussexes. Just cut of the royal rota by relaying on social media more.

  33. Amy Too says:

    “How dare you use Princess Diana’s image to advertise your charity!” But at the same time “Why aren’t you using OUR image to advertise your charity?”

    Also the press:
    “Anything Harry does is likely to overshadow to the work the BRF is doing. How dare he!?” But also: “We will break into other reporting in order to give live updates every single time Harry or Meghan are so much as mentioned in a charity’s Twitter feed. And we also won’t even report on most of the things Charles or the rest of the RF does.”

    “Everyone is so sad that Harry is isolated in California, denying his family the opportunity to visit with baby Archie. Why won’t he come back!?!?!?” But also: “People need to stay home! Covid is killing people! There is a new highly contagious variant out there in the UK. Do your part and DO NOT TRAVEL!”

    “Harry could become obsessed with his mother’s memory and fail to live in the present!” But also “why won’t Harry abandon his wife and child and come back to play happy families with his brother and sister-in-law? Why won’t he be ‘William’s Little Brother’ forever—is he forgetting that the brothers only had each other after Diana died!?”

    “Harry should have all of his BRF stuff taken away: titles, HRH, patronages so that no one will be confused about whether he represents the family!” But also: “Why doesn’t Harry just do projects with Charles and William?”

    • Drun says:


    • Gail says:

      💯 everything you said

    • VS says:

      I love your post @Amy Too; your succinctly pointing out all the nonsense and BS

      You are asking the british press and royal fans to be rational? have they ever shown anything that proves that they could be?

      royal supporters don’t care about the work; only the pageantry matters. I started paying attention because of Meghan so I am glad she is back home where her work can be discussed not the latest dress or t-shirt or skirt she wore and whatever hidden message is behind them. royal reporting is made up of so many incompetent and obviously failed journalists. No one, except Omid Scobie, talks about the WORK….. it is like those people exist for a reality soap opera show….. someone asked above why are they so possessive towards Diana and Harry but not W? he is her son to but it is like Diana only had one son: Harry

      H&M are following the Obamas model; which can only be great for them! all the best to them and I will personally always support Meghan

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Amy Too that post is 💯 perfect. This family is sick. Absolutely sick and the BM are sick as well. I am so glad they escaped. I will always support H&M and their charitable work.

    • Lorelei says:

      @AmyToo: 👏👏👏

      The only thing I’ll add is that I get particularly annoyed when they invoke the Queen and how sad it must be for her to be so far away from Archie. B!tch couldn’t even be bothered to go to his christening!

    • Keen Kate says:

      LOL. Make. It. Make. Sense.

    • Nyro says:

      Yep. Just like Meghan’s Vogue. “It’s offensive woke nonsense!! There are too many brown women on the cover!! This is just more self a promotion from Meghan!! So crass and unroyal!! So Hollywood and proof that she’s not fit to be a success!!” But also “Why didn’t she include the queen?!! She could have easily interviewed our Kate instead of Michelle Obama!! Camilla works with domestic abuse survivors, why wasn’t she on the cover?!! Is there a bigger force for change than THE QUEEN?!!!” Idiots.

      • Nic919 says:

        Yes they are crazy. The queen is the literal embodiment of the establishment… she’s the frickin thing they are trying to change. And Kate is the enforcer of patriarchy having acted like a mercenary woman from the 19th century to catch her rich titled husband. Neither have anything to offer to a modern society because they are what’s wrong with the current elitist one.

  34. aquarius64 says:

    William is basically Trump with a title. Bill is woefully unprepared for the role to which he was born. The COVID exposure and comments show he is not ready to be the ceremonial head of state. His and Kate’s handling of the self inflicted PR wounds show they are not ready for Primetime. Having syncophantic press and courtiers does William no good outside the UK when other courties’ see what’s going on. William is afraid of the perception not only Harry is sole heir of Diana’s philanthropic endeavors, but Harry should be the heir to the throne.

    • CrazyHeCallsMe says:

      “but Harry should be the heir to the throne.”

      THIS^^^ all day and night. William deep down is terrified of the thought that Harry, not William, is better suited to be King. I thought I read somewhere that Diana herself alluded to Harry having the better temperament to be King.

      • notasugarhere says:

        She did, including referring to him as Good King Henry (GKH) repeatedly around her friends.

      • Dee Kay says:

        From The Crown (and yes I know it’s not a documentary haha), I have learned that Princess Margaret, who was well before my time, may also have been more temperamentally suited to be Queen than Elizabeth. The Crown always frames Margaret as more charming, outgoing, a naturally great public speaker, great at diplomacy and winning over minds/hearts, etc. But Margaret is also depicted as an alcoholic and terrible snob. I think the series is sort of arguing that she became the latter because she was always subjugated and suppressed and sidelined, being the spare and not the heir. And I think the BRF actually *wanted* that terrible future for Harry. They loved his stupid hijinks in his youth b/c it set him up to be the next Princess Margaret perfectly: he would be terrifically talented, but always held down, and he would stay there, for the sake of the monarchy. And if he became alcoholic and depressed and a much worse version of himself along the way, that would be completely fine, maybe even desirable from a certain perspective (would make him more useful as a distraction/whipping boy).

        In this most recent season of The Crown, someone asks Princess Margaret why she won’t just up and leave if she hates being the spare so much, if it’s working against her rather than for her. And she says because she needs to be in the center of things and that means being with the Queen. But I think Morgan (the showrunner and writer) was basically using that scene to explain what Harry and Meghan have done: Harry’s position in the BRF was not working for him, it was working against him, and so H&M left, and are now finding a way to be in the center of everything rather than in the margins, *outside* of the Royal Family. They basically have done what Margaret did not have the mind or will to do, and what Diana did not have the means to do. I think Meghan’s U.S. citizenship, her feeling at home in SoCal, and her celebrity connections, as well as her personal beauty and brilliance, gave H&M options — a real path to escape, somewhere to go and live, and things to do — that no other royal had before. Good for them. I think Peter Morgan approves, too, if I am reading his intention in that scene of the Crown accurately.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        Season 4 of The Crown was written long before Sussexit happened!

  35. FancyHat says:

    That picture of William makes me cackle every time I see it. What is he supposed to be doing in that picture because he looks like he is miming taking a shit.

    And excited to hear you are covering more stories tomorrow though my new year’s resolution to be more productive at work is going to take a hit.

  36. Alexandria says:

    Bye William, keep seeing Harry’s back walking away.

  37. Rapunzel says:

    Incandescent rage monster William is aflame with jealousy. Let’s all sing a song:

    The Duke, the Duke, the Duke is on fire.
    We don’t need no water, let the motherf–ker burn.
    Burn, motherf–ker. Burn.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      That rage will destroy himself, his marriage, his children and the institution itself. Like Trump he will burn it all to the ground. Duchess Melania is not going to get her precious crown – either Willileaks divorces her or he walks away from the throne. I firmly believe William will never be King.

    • Mads says:

      @ Rapunzel, Perfect! Perfect sentiment.

  38. TheOriginalMia says:

    Harry is Diana’s son. William doesn’t hold a monopoly on her memory. He had used her memory to get out of work, to garner praise and to bludgeon the BRF when he wants to punish them. I doubt Charles was upset at not being mentioned. His relationship with Harry is separate and apart from Harry’s relationship and memories of his mother. Think that was thrown in by William. It scores points with the royalists if it seems if it’s the BRF against the Sussexes, when it’s really just him.

    It’s a shame William can’t be happy for Harry. It speaks to the deep well of unhappiness that is the true foundation of William’s character. Has the world at his fingertips. Has a wife who bends to his will, has 3 adorable children, has a system which benefits him to the detriment of others and he still can find nothing positive to center him & make him happy. No, his happiness is the constant harassment of his only sibling and his family. Truly sad.

  39. windyriver says:

    William is upset at Harry invoking their mother – everyone who saw this coming, raise your hand.

    Thankfully we have someone to explain to us how the family, from the luxury of their various palaces, feels about the member they hounded out of the country, not coordinating and choreographing his work with his father. “Harry and Meghan are determined to strike out on their own, regardless of the effect it has on Charles’s work”. Seriously, Charles? This is the spin? BTW, can you think of any way this might have been avoided?

    As for TQ’s ‘magnificent job’ ‘inspiring’ the public, I’m not in Britain, so maybe I missed something. There was an early speech, which we were dutifully informed was so unusual. Since then, I believe the number who have died from Covid 19 (never mind economic hardships) may now exceed those civilians who died during WWII. During the war, her parents stayed at BP, though it had been bombed. They used rationing coupons. Her father gave multiple public speeches, despite a distressing speech problem.

    TQ during Covid, meanwhile, still went ahead with a mini-Trooping the Colour celebration for her birthday. She went to Scotland as usual for the summer. She would have spent Christmas at Sandringham if she could have. The only other national speech was her Christmas address. She showed her solidarity with her people’s economic hardships by letting it be known she was forced to hand out Tesco’s puddings to her staff because they were cheaper. Did she wear a mask anywhere?

    Meanwhile, William took months to let the public know he’d had Covid 19, possibly so no one would ask where he was when he got it. Finally, neither TQ nor Charles stopped the stupid Cambridge stunts with the multi-country train tour, and Wessex meet up.

    I know I’m inspired.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Don’t forget her dangerous, if not abusive behavior, towards the staff. Dragging them up to Scotland in a pandemic, forcing them to accompany her. Dragging them back to Windsor and Sandringham, all because she won’t keep her ass in one place.

      • windyriver says:


        Plus, what difference does it make to have 60+ Welsh Guards start 6ish feet apart, if they’re doing drills and parading through each other’s breath streams? Idiots.

        She would’ve looked so much better to have proactively announced all this was cancelled.

        And, she also knighted a 100 year old man, with she, and others, standing too close to him (and too close to her) – and no one wearing masks.

  40. Snuffles says:


    “Because Harry’s duty and role was supposed to be William’s main support when he became King. Harry leaving the family is seen as him abandoning William. He was supposed to sacrifice his happiness for the sake of the crown.”


    That is the exact speech that Philip gave Diana in the last episode of season 4 in The Crown.

    “Everyone in this system is a lost, lonely, irrelevant outsider apart from the one person, the only person, that matters. She’s the oxygen we all breathe. The essence of all our duty. You’re problem, if I may say, is you seem to be confused about who that person is.”

    I have no doubt that sentiment was drummed into William’s head growing up and he had every expectation that Harry should willing sacrifice and suffer to uphold the glory of the future king.

    I don’t know if that is something William will ever be able to move past. He will probably spend his entire life feeling like Harry has abandoned him and will never be happy and accepting of the new life Harry has chosen for himself.

    • Amy Too says:

      But what is so bizarre is that William isn’t king yet. Shouldn’t he and Kate be serving the Queen and then Charles and Camilla, just as prince Philip was demanding the actual Princess of Wales (the next Queen consort) to serve Queen Elizabeth? Somehow William seems to think that both he and even his wife, who is only a future-future QC, should be catered to and served above anyone else in the firm, now and in the future. It’s just bizarre to me that Will has internalized the whole “Everyone serves the monarch, everyone is a human shield, no exceptions!” but doesn’t seem to quite understand it all the way, or thinks that exceptions should be made for himself and his wife and kids. As if HE were the current monarch and Kate was already the QC. He’s certainly not serving the Queen, or Charles and Camilla, and he seemed to be pissed off whenever Harry and Meghan’s loyalty and service veered more towards the Queen and Charles than to himself. Like when they moved their office to BP.

    • Yeah Snuffles, and that philosophy worked so well with Andrew. 🤦🏻‍♀️

  41. Mindy_Dopple says:

    Notice how there weren’t any weird Harry leaks every single time Kate cosplays Diana in fashion and the way they dress their kids in Williams old clothing. Harry let’s them be and dig their own holes. I personally think that’s creepy and tacky. Am I royal source now? 🤣

    • VS says:

      Not just William……..they have been using Harry clothes as well. I find that very creepy and weird which made me think about who owns those clothes? why are W children dressed in H’s clothes?
      Anyway, so far H&M have dressed A in the few times we have seen him, in regular and normal clothes which most likely caused W&K to stop dressing their kids in those old looking clothes. I personally hope Meghan never agrees to replay history by dressing A in those clothes; unfortunately she is not the only one making a decision; I doubt H here 🙂

      • booboocita says:

        There was something about the Sussexes’ Christmas card that struck me as unusual, but I couldn’t figure out what. @vs, your post made me realize what was different. H&M dressed Archie in long pants, not the shorts and knee socks we’re used to seeing on George and Louis. He looks like a normal kid, not someone forced to cosplay the 1930s.

      • equality says:

        @booboocita Look at W&K’s card. They have already graduated Louis to the long pants on it. I think they might be copying again.

      • Nic919 says:

        @equality…. letting Louis dress like a normal child and not little lord Fauntleroy is one thing I am fine with them copying.

    • Tessa says:

      It is odd. Charles and Diana never put Charles clothes he wore as a child on WIlliam and Harry. Rather strange that William and Kate do this.

      • Nic919 says:

        Let’s be honest William didn’t get involved. This was Kate and Carole with their Diana obsessed cosplay.

  42. Dillunn says:

    Just came here to say that that picture of Diana and Harry is adorable.

  43. Tessa says:

    How did Charles, Camilla, WIlliam, Kate “inspire” the public during the Pandemic It seems to me it showed how out of touch they are. William did not reveal he had COVID at the time he had the illness. Hardly inspiring.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Don’t you see how keenly inspiring 100,000 grand worth of new ugly Little House dresses are?

      • Liz version 700 says:

        Little House on the Prairie is the exact style Kate aims for. Laura Ingles would be proud.

      • equality says:

        @Liz Actually, Laura wouldn’t be proud. She dressed for the style of her time and age. If you see the older pictures of her, in the 50’s, she didn’t still wear the prairie style.

      • Lorelei says:

        Ma Ingalls was more stylish than Kate is, imo. Not even kidding!

      • Nic919 says:

        I don’t know how inspiring Nellie Olson would be to the masses. Although Kate really does try to emulate those sausage curls.

  44. Jaded says:

    William’s jealousy is like a black hole, sucking in everything in its path. It taints everything he does. Can you imagine what he could have accomplished with Harry and Meghan had he and Keen been better people? But no. Jealousy makes you ugly and your sole focus becomes the ruination of the object(s) of your envy. What a total waste of space the Cambridges are.

  45. L4frimaire says:

    Here’s what bugs me the most about this whole thing, besides the incandescent rage. So the Sussexes aren’t allowed to use the word royal, speak for or represent themselves on behalf of the royal family, and have no formal official role in the Royal family. Just recently the royal family made it clear that they totally reject the Sussexes by the nasty news stories and rejecting Harry’s wreath. However, they think they need to coordinate their projects with Charles and mention him on their website, for their organization that has nothing to do with the royal family and is based in the USA. If they dared mention any royal, even George III or the Plantagenets, they’d be accused of trading on their royal connections and trying to act as a rival court. They have even been really quiet regarding their interactions with their U.K. charities recently, with exception of the Mayhew card. All this nonsense about the British public or what the royals do during the pandemic ( and they seem like really out of touch mask dodgers btw), has nothing to do with the Sussexes. They wanted them gone, wanted to strip their title and they no longer have a public role, which is what the royals wanted. They wish all Harry was doing was just pontificating, instead of pulling things together and getting stuff done. The only thing they care about is that the Sussexes generate more news and interest both in the U.K., and rest of the world.

    • Lorelei says:

      @ L4Frimaire: I don’t know if the reason is that they’re too stupid to realize how hypocritical they are, or too stupid to blatantly not care, as their main goal is smearing the Sussexes by any means possible, no matter how awful it makes them look to the rest of the world.
      Imo it’s probably a little of both…just dim, vile people.

  46. Jodi says:

    This whole thing is the double bind scenario psychologists talk about in abusive or toxic families or relationships. If Harry mentioned his father, they’d say he isn’t a Royal anymore and shouldn’t be leveraging the RF name. If he doesn’t, they say: he isn’t being respectful of Charles and is using his mother’s legacy. It’s absolute toxic trash nonsense. And it means nothing except they continue to show themselves to be the horrible people they actually are. Reality is that: Harry is a free person who can speak about either parent any way he wants a does not require permission. Any noise they throw out there that says otherwise means nothing. No matter how many flying monkeys do their bidding for them.

  47. Babz says:

    If Bill Cambridge is breathing, he’s incandescent. He’s got no safety valve and no emotional boundary indicators.

    I finally finished watching The Crown last night. I’ve been a royal family follower for years, so knew that this wasn’t a documentary. All I can say is that even though the broad strokes were correct, if even a fraction of that abuse really happened, I don’t know how in the world Diana fought free from that family. The argument scenes were bad enough, but the really brutal scene for me was the meeting between Charles and Diana’s respective households to coordinate their official diaries. The sly, cutting ways in which she was belittled by his staff showed their ramping up the lies against her about being mentally unstable and fragile. She knew exactly what was happening, and then Charles just sat there, staring at her with cold contempt.

    The reason I said all that was because William is the same way. He’s a bully, a spoiled almost 40 year old brat, who is abusing his wife emotionally, who abuses his brother and family almost daily via the press, and who abuses his position by doing nothing to be worthy of it. He inherited the worst traits of his father, and apparently none from his mother. He knows Harry really is “his mother’s son” and he’s riddled with jealousy because of it. He has no self-awareness to allow him to take a long hard look at himself and do the work to change. So while Harry and Meghan go from strength to strength, all he can do is snipe from the sidelines.

    • Watson says:

      @Babz. I fully agree. It must burn so bad that Harry got all the star power from their mum and the work ethic of their dad. LOL. Poor William….so angry that the spare is everything he’s wanted for himself.

      • Nyro says:

        Not only that, but now Harry’s the better looking brother by a mile. Imagine going from being a bonafide global teen idol to then losing your cover boy looks by age 25 to then looking like a penis with teeth by age 35. That’s got to piss him off as well.

      • Watson says:

        @Nyro Lol!! So true. Watching William’s looks and personality unfold is like going to a highschool reunion and realizing that the popular crowd peaked in highschool. In both cases their looks have faded and they never bothered to develop kind personalities.

    • Kalana says:

      Diana used the bombshell of the Andrew Morton book to put the Windsors on the defensive. They couldn’t have complete control of the narrative after that.

      The gaslighting was horrible. They abused her and shrugged off her reactions as being inherently damaged goods.

      The Windsors are a massively dysfunctional family reaching all the way to the Queen.

      • Lorelei says:

        I know this is an unpopular opinion here because most people see Harry and Meghan as “above it,” and maybe they are, but I would LOOOOOOVE for each of them to write their own tell-all and spill absolutely everything so the entire world would know what trash that family really is. At this point, they have nothing left to lose. Why protect those monsters by staying silent?

      • ArtHistorian says:

        The dysfunction of the Windsors goes back CENTURIES! The English branch of the House of Hannover has always been incredibly messed up (especially between monarch and heir as well as between royal siblings), though I do think that the toxic heir-spare dynamic in its current incarnation is indeed rooted in the relationship between Liz and Margot.

  48. Kalana says:

    William needs therapy. He learned terrible coping skills and attracted the kind of people who will enable his dysfunction to get access to his status and money.

    Charles is content to use this fight between his sons to gain more control over both of them.

    Diana would never have allowed this.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Diana was the one who told Harry, repeatedly, that his job was to support William. That William’s future job was much more difficult and Harry had to support him. It was tied up in her twisted relationship with her own younger brother failing to support her, and she projected that twisted relationship on Harry. It took him two decades to wake up and see he deserved a life away from being William’s whipping boy.

      • Kalana says:

        She wouldn’t have supported Harry and Meghan being used as a shield for Andrew or William’s affair, or using the press to lash out. Whatever fights Diana had with her siblings, she didn’t fight with them in public or use the press against them or side with her inlaws against them.

        Harry supporting his brother is not inherently a bad thing but done the Windsor way is quite different.

      • GuestwithCat says:

        Parents often tell siblings their “job” is too look after each other. Most don’t mean it to become a martyr to their sibling, but just to stay in touch, stay close and keep an eye on each other. It’s what families do for each other. I don’t have siblings of my own, but I’ve got my husband’s sister and she and I look out for each other. We both have a crazy, colorful relationship because she’s dysfunctional as hell and I think by now most people here know I’m a real…something…myself. But it works well enough that I think I understand what concerned and loving parents want their children to do for each other.

        I read what Diana had said and I think she just meant that she knew what a toxic environment William was going to grow into and she wanted Harry with his better disposition and outlook to be there for his brother and help expand William’s perspective. She wanted them to be close and supportive. She didn’t quite get that from her own siblings, after all. I think she naturally wanted better for her sons.

        But she was also part of the aristocracy and a product of this dysfunctional system so, yes, she did probably think or expect Harry was going to always be on hand somewhere in England for his brother.

        She probably didn’t envision him marrying an American and leaving the BRF in the rear view mirror. But given that she attempted to do the same for herself, I think she would have been proud of Harry and understood why he can’t stand by William.

        When she was raising Harry with this idea he would support William as King, she probably didn’t envision she would be dead and William would be raised up my a mixture of the men in grey, Charles when he could be bothered, and Her Majestic Pettiness with some Middleton Manipulation added for good measure.

        I’m sure she felt confident she would maintain enough influence over William to ensure he would turn out with some empathy and compassion and genuine love for Harry, too. It was supposed to be a mutually beneficial relationship. But the divorce and her death and her mistakes and the BRF’s mismanagement compounded and produced PWT.

        It must have been very hard for Harry to realize and accept that the same mother that evoked and nurtured empathy and compassion in him failed to leave the same lasting impression on his precious brother. And don’t forget, there was a time the brothers were close and William was the one Harry himself credited for an intervention that led to Harry getting help.

        Somewhere along the way, that William was lost. Diana can’t be blamed for encouraging Harry to support a person who did exist but ceased to exist after her death.

        Harry seemed to show a lot of good faith, good natured trust and loyalty to his family. That’s actually a positive, healthy thing to do in a non dysfunctional family. He was so young when Diana died that he probably didn’t realize how dysfunctional they all were because the gaslighting was crazy. Look, we can see it. Had Diana lived to see the changes that took place in William, I doubt she would have stayed the course on her initial wishes for Harry. I don’t think she would have insisted Harry do something she herself scoffed at and refused to do.

  49. Lizzie says:

    Isn’t if funny that Bill has everything in the world a person could dream of yet he is a miserable SOB?

  50. Pétulia says:

    It literally blows my mind that William know so little about his only brother. Because if he truly knows him he could have seen all of this coming. How can he knows his brother and expect him to just do nothing while his wife suffer.

  51. Aa says:

    Since her death the British Royal family has been able claim Diana’s legacy for themselves because of William and Harry presence. Harry marrying a woman with Meghan’s qualities and then leaving the Royal Family has severed much of the Royal family’s hold on that legacy. William for so long positioned himself as the anti-Charles and used the threat of his greater popularity against his father, but his jealousy over Harry including Harry’s closer relationship to Charles led William to attack Harry and make deals to be seen as closer to his father. But in that process he damanged his link to Diana’s legacy and his PR position as the anti-Charles just as the Diana years of the crown start to

  52. J ferber says:

    Elizabeth Regina, you nailed it! William should work on his own lackluster self and let the true golden boy, his brother, be. William, you neither own your mother or your brother. Let me quote our shittiest First Lady, “Be best.” Be your best you, William.

  53. Mina_Esq says:

    First they complain about Harry using his Royal connection for fame and fortune. Then they complain when Harry uses a photo of the only non-Royal member of his immediate family: his aristocratic mother who had been stripped of her HRH by the same vile family that has set out to destroy him and his wife. There is no pleasing them. They just want H and M to disappear and live in misery.

    • Le4Frimaire says:

      This! Also want to add that they won’t really allow the Sussexes to disappear. Remember when KP outed their Canadian location, then stalked their LA location to Tyler Perry’s house, include looking up flight records. The tabloids have been digging into every real estate deal and copyright filing. There was a time before their initial Zoom and Project Angel sightings that they gleefully thought the Sussexes were spinning their wheels doing nothing, saying no one was interested in “ after dinner talks”? They say they want the Sussexes to go away, be discreet and quiet, live off trusts, but if they actually do that, they’d be accused of being hypocrites or worse, while the press still snipe. Basically the same accusations they get when they carry on unbothered with their lives and work.

  54. blunt talker says:

    I agree with posterNyro-this is child abuse from the womb to adulthood-Who has a child soley for the benefit to support the future heir to the throne-the spare would not be able to develop and become his own person-everything he/she does must benefit the royal family and the spare cannot say a word about it-the spare has to take what is dished out no matter how awful it is-Thinking about the Crown series-I truly believe that Charles only married Diana to get his two children-there was never real love for Diana-just a borrowed womb to have children – The royal family and all other entities involved in keeping this farce up are guilty of child abuse towards their spares-the reason they are born is to prop someone up or in case something befall the heir-Anyone thinks this is the reason to have children are demented individuals with the brain rot of a dead corpse. Noone seems care about Harry’s feelings or mental hurt to know this is why he exists in this world-if this is the kind of love the royal has-I would leave too.

  55. Daniella Roma says:

    He couldn’t give a crap, let me tell you.

  56. Great information. Thanks!

  57. starryfish29 says:

    Any day that Wllileaks is incandescent with rage is a good one. I just imagine him and Kate as that gif of the woman angrily yanking on the curtains and it cracks me up every single time.