Jessica Mulroney revealed her 2020 emails with Sasha Exeter to the National Post

Jessica Mulroney looks elegant in NYC

I’ll be honest, even as I was covering the Sasha Exeter-Jessica Mulroney drama last summer, I believed Jessica would be able to “come back” pretty easily. I mean, she has money and access and powerful friends. All she had to do was be quiet for six months, then apologize thoroughly and begin to move on. That’s it. And it probably wouldn’t have even taken six months! But Jessica was incapable of both shutting up and offering a sincere apology, which made her completely self-imposed melodrama so much worse. Even if you believed Jessica deserved the benefit of the doubt in June, by November, everyone was sick of her self-absorbed, bratty Karen act.

To recap, the whole thing started last June, when Instagram influencer Sasha Exeter was using her social media for a call to action on Black Lives Matter and racial justice. In Sasha’s version of events, Jessica took it personally that Sasha was encouraging other influencers to use their platforms similarly, and they began DMing, texting and emailing an increasingly hostile back-and-forth which ended when Jessica threatened Sasha’s livelihood if Sasha made any of their conversation public. Well, after Jessica’s November interview with the National Post fell flat as a f–king pancake, Jessica is at it again. This time she went to a “friendly” columnist at the same outlet, the National Post, and provided the alleged paper trail between herself and Exeter. The NP columnist used the email and text trail to declare that Mulroney is completely exonerated from the crime of being a racist brat. *deep sigh*

Jessica Mulroney turned over eight printed-out pages of what she says are her private correspondence with Sasha Exeter to Canada’s National Post in an effort to tell more of her side of the story…Though Exeter has not commented on the Post story, the paper has published what they claim to be the entirety of the correspondence between the two women, beginning on May 31, when Exeter apparently took offense to Mulroney posting a Martin Luther King Jr. quote on her Instagram, as the worldwide protests that followed the death of George Floyd were building.

“You have a large following and should be posting about BLM, not promoting your show,” Exeter writes. Mulroney replies, “I’ve spoken out about racism before. I believe that the real work needs to be teaching my children, doing work behind the scenes.” The next day, Exeter says that she “can’t find the words” to express her displeasure in the stylist’s belief that fighting racism “behind the scenes” is enough, adding, “I am deeply disappointed in the response. But your response will be discussed with my community and followers. If you cannot be uncomfortable for a few minutes and fear what people will say to you, just imagine how ppl [sic] of color have felt their entire lives. It is a cop out. It is cowardly. It is sad and pathetic.”

The pair then apparently spoke on the phone before moving their conversation from DM to text, in which Mulroney compares promoting her TV show to Exeter posting her own sponsored content, to which Exeter replies, “…don’t ever compare yourself to me. Ever.… Don’t ever compare yourself to me. Especially right now.” After a few more days of back-and-forth, Mulroney—who claimed to the Post that she was “fearful of where Sasha’s anger will take her”—attempts an apology. “I had a moment to think and I want to apologize,” she writes. “I was wrong. Comparing myself to you was wrong and what you are doing is all the good the world needs. I will do better and be better.”

Exeter then sends her final message, telling Mulroney, “Your comments in yesterday’s text thread are so problematic, you have no idea. It’s textbook Amy Cooper.” (Two days later she posted her Instagram video about the back-and-forth, calling it “My ‘Amy Cooper’ Experience.”) It was when Exeter stopped responding that Mulroney sent the message that Exeter would eventually use as an accusation. After writing, “Your silence is understood. We don’t always do it the right way. But we learn from our mistakes. Take care,” Mulroney followed up with, “If you go to the press over this nonsense and threaten to go to your followers, I won’t be afraid to go to brands and tell them what you are doing to me.”

Mulroney apologized again after that message, despite telling the outlet she “is still unsure what her mistake is or was,” but the damage, it seems, was done. (Exeter did not respond to Vanity Fair’s request for comment.) Though the newly published messages don’t necessarily reveal anything new about Mulroney, Exeter, or their falling-out, the National Post seems eager to paint it as a full exoneration for Mulroney. “Jessica Mulroney is innocent of the moral crimes she has been so unjustly charged with,” the writer, Barbara Kay, concludes.

[From Vanity Fair]

My blood pressure spiked at “Mulroney—who claimed to the Post that she was ‘fearful of where Sasha’s anger will take her’.” No, really, Jessica really thought she was doing something here, didn’t she? Don’t get me wrong, I think Sasha had frayed nerves (as did so many) and she was looking to challenge someone. But Jessica DID threaten Sasha. And Jessica is still leaning so heavily into the racist tropes. Her story is still some version of “The Angry Black Woman Made Me Cry White Tears!” Which is what her argument was back in June too!!

Jessica Mulroney greets her fans while leaving GMA in New York

Jessica Mulroney arrives at Good Morning America

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  1. Nanny to the Rescue says:

    How can you be a professional stylist and be so awfully dressed in EVERY photo? She reached the levels of tacky I didn’t think possible.

    • mynameispearl says:

      Her clothes are incredibly tacky… which would be forgivable except she seems like a total cow.

      • Grey says:

        I mostly agree with this except for that plaid suit. I would wear the heck out of that.

      • Becks1 says:

        I really like the plaid pants with the red coat in the bottom picture, but the pink blouse ruins the whole look.

      • Nanny to the Rescue says:

        I think individual pieces are fine, it’s the combinations that make it awful. Execpt for the blue high boots and boyfriend’s shirt and sweater look, that one can’t be saved in any way.

        Also, agreed with people in other comments, she’s terrible at make-up. And the jewlery too. The way she combines things just doesn’t work. Ugh.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        The pieces aren’t bad! She just doesn’t carry them well at all. And her face looks so overworked it doesn’t help.

    • My3cents says:

      Yeah, I’m guessing the only one she actually dresses are her kids.

    • Noki says:

      She actually has quite a nice collection of things,she just insists on wearing all or too much at the same time if she would pick one or two individual pieces that stand out then add a solid colour to it wouldnt be so bad.

    • harla says:

      I don’t mind the clothes so much but wow her makeup is so poorly done, too Tammy Faye Baker.

    • Susan says:

      Agreed! It’s always kind of baffled me that she claimed to be Meghan’s stylist. Meghan’s “worst” fashion was NOTHING like this stuff…Meghan is a minimalist and Jessica is…the absolute opposite. I can’t imagine those two agreeing on anything fashion, LOL.

      • Hej says:

        Well I feel its possible to be a good stylist even if you’re not good at styling yourself. Also if she didn’t have that nasty plastic surgery/filled lips maybe she wouldn’t look as ridiculous? I think she looks silly but the outfits might not be bad on everyone? Idk. Not that I know of her being a good stylist to anyone, just in theory people can be messed up but still good at serving /helping others 🙂

    • FancyHat says:

      I stared at the plaid suit pic for a good minute trying to figure out how it could be fixed. It just can’t. It’s too tight and too much. She has appalling taste.

      • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

        Good God, that thing’s an Austin Powers nightmare! But then, almost all of her clothing will make your eyes bleed.

  2. Sojaschnitzel says:

    F this B.

  3. Darla says:

    If someone sent me messages like those Sasha wrote out of the blue I would be really annoyed. Jessica’s mistake was in responding in writing. The biggest thing we can learn is to shut up. Or respond with “Okay”. That’s a classic. I have used that a lot since I learned the ageless lesson of that whole” the moving finger writes and having writ, moves on and all the tears in the world cannot take back a line” thing. I used to be rather notorious for firing off email responses, but I learned that lesson back in the aughts. Now the most you will provoke from me no matter how infuriating your email is an “Okay”. But I will read you the riot act in person.

    • Soupie says:

      Agreed Darla. Over the decades I have learned when and how to keep quiet and when to speak up. I highly respect your reading the riot act to people in person. I’m just not in a position to do it anymore. I need to practice self preservation at this point in my life.

      Sometimes I feel like a hypocrite,
      like I’m not standing up for what I believe in. I just don’t want the drama and conflict anymore. It isn’t worth it. I’ve got 2 Confederate and blue line flags on either side of me since I moved to the South. It’s disgusting and concerning but no way am I confronting it. Other than that, these people are decent people – on the surface anyway.

      As a white woman I have never been so completely disgusted and repulsed by so many other white women of all ages in my country, the U.S. This is a real problem and a real threat to peace in our society and for our democracy, if you can call it that (which it isn’t). It is why I did not attend my white milestone high school reunion last year. I didn’t want to ruin everybody’s evening with Truth. I knew that even my body language would give me away even if my mouth were shut. Someday I hope those people will get a rude awakening but they probly won’t. Too many people go to their graves in a delusional racist, elitist state of mind.

      Much of Southern California is now very diverse. Still, I find that it is segregated. Where I live now used to be a sundown town until the 70’s or 80’s! Imagine how I feel about that.

      The more diversity we see in all areas of life the better off we’ll be. The problem is those white supremacists aren’t gonna die out. They are being born, bred and cured more than ever. I really don’t think that will change in our lifetime. it’s a really bad thing.

    • MM2 says:

      I don’t believe that the first email Jessica gave here was their first correspondence about the issue, so the email wasn’t out of the blue. Sasha has explained that she shared a generic call to action on her ig stories for all people with large followings, Jessica communicated that she took personal offense to the post & then the correspondence began.

      • lucy2 says:

        Oh that makes so much more sense. I couldn’t figure out why they even started the back and forth, and below asked if they knew each other prior.
        So Jessica could have simply ignored the call to action (or actually been proactive and posted in support of BLM) and avoided all this mess that has surely cost her. What a dummy.

      • Becks1 says:

        If the timeline in the NP is correct though, that “call to action” was AFTER Sasha said something to Jessica about the MLK quote, that’s why Jessica felt that was aimed at her.

        I dont know.

      • Nic919 says:

        @becks I wouldn’t take anything from that Post article as accurate. The emails and texts are not printed for a reason.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Nic oh I know that but at the very least that would explain why Jessica felt attacked by Sascha – lots of activists and influencers were posting similar calls to action and Jessica wasnt attacking all of them, so there had to be something more going on here.

        There’s definitely a reason that neither one has released the full text/email exchange.

      • Nic919 says:

        These emails are supposedly in the hands of the Bellmedia lawyers and at that time they weren’t enough to stop CTV from cancelling her shows. Knowing that the Mulroneys have a lot of power, the actual emails are clearly not as beneficial as Kay has interpreted them to be in her article.

      • sunny says:

        100% this. And for those readers who aren’t Canadian, the National Post is a pretty right-wing publication so I’m betting the framing of this story was deliberately favourable as Jessica is the daughter-in-law of a former conservative Prime Minister.

      • Cheezypuff says:

        Well saying they had been messaging for a few days leading up to that post doesn’t really serve Sasha’s narrative, so clearly she left it out. Jessica messaging her out of the blue would be wrong and confrontational. If they really had been messaging for a few days and Sasha felt it was her place to call Jessica out for contractually promoting her show during the media black out for BLM, I can see why Jessica felt it was a personal attack. It’s all just she said, she said at this point but I am leaning towards they are both Karen’s and Sasha pretty clearly threatened to go to her followers first. Sounds like Sasha was looking for a public fight. Even her post sounds super fake watching it a second time. Only one of them had their career impacted though, which is sad. Love her or hate her, did Jessica deserve her total take down and blacklisting for this? Probably not.

      • detnow359 says:

        Agreed! That was my first thought. This was not the start of the conversation and frankly who is to say it’s the entire conversation. This bitch didn’t know how to let this die. We will hear and see more of what was really said.

    • Mina_Esq says:

      Yup. Back in the day, when I started my practice, my mentor told me that I should write every piece of correspondence as if a judge would one day see it. In entertainment, the lesson should be to never write anything you wouldn’t want the public to see, especially if it can be taken out of context (allegedly…I cringed so hard at this NP article).

      • Nic919 says:

        But the accounting of the texts by Kay is highly unreliable and to me not seeing them and vaguely suggesting that some may be “missing” suggests that we don’t have the entire story.

    • RoyalBlue says:

      yes, sounds like she baited her.

      • Sarah says:

        No. That’s not what happened. And Jessica is responsible for her words and actions regardless. The excuses people make…

      • Cheezypuff says:

        What did she say that was so problematic? I didn’t post during the hight of BLM social media blackout either. Not because I didn’t support the cause and believe in equality 100% but because I didn’t think my Indian voice was what needed to be added to the conversation. I felt my place at the time was to shut up and listen, and I stand by that. Me posting to my like minded followers when we all agree racism is wrong and we need a great deal of social and criminal justice reform is not going to help the same way me not cluttering the space and clearing the way for those with more information on the subject wil. Jessica being white doesn’t mean she doesn’t have feelings and a livelihood to protect same as Sasha. Jessica didn’t bring this to the media, Sasha did initially likely because she wanted to be part of the conversation.

      • Maria says:

        Cheezypuff- She literally did threaten her livelihood and threaten legal action, that is problematic.
        And stop using the word Karen if you don’t know what it means, lol.

      • Sofia says:

        Jessica’s livelihood is fine. She came from a rich family before she married into another rich family. I doubt her bank account and lifestyle (other than her social circle turning on her and no longer inviting her to things) has barely been affected.

      • Cheezypuff says:

        I never said she didn’t threaten her livelihood. I said from this article, it sounds like Sasha threatened and did go to her followers first and with only half the stories. A Karen is an angry entitled person with a lack of grounding in reality or perspective. It can be any race gender or age in my view. Maybe your dictionary has a different definition? And just because someone has money doesn’t mean they should have their career destroyed (I’m sure she will bounce back). Sasha shouldn’t have hers destroyed either. This is a non issue in my books.

      • Maria says:

        Karens are people who are entitled but also try to weaponize their privilege.

      • Sofia says:

        How exactly was her career destroyed? She lost her gigs but you said it yourself, she’ll bounce back. If she can do that, I would hardly call her career destroyed.

      • Cheezypuff says:

        I just feel that if we agree bullying people and singling people out for doing the best they know how to do is wrong, and people’s livelihoods being effected is not fair (regardless of the timeline of how long it is effected and to what degree) we should agree that applies to everyone. I am definitely not saying Jessica is right or not privileged or also wrong. I am saying the story was pretty one sided a few months ago and this new information shows another side of it. I never thought Sasha was all right either. She definitely has an agenda here too just like Jessica’s clear agenda is to rehab her image. Maya Angelou has this great quote about doing the best you can, until you know better. And when you know better, do better. I fully want people to learn better and do better but I think a part of that is giving them to room to be better. I can’t fault people for not knowing they are privileged, but I can fault people for learning about it and ignoring it.

      • Maria says:

        It was not one sided because Jessica was constantly putting out news stories about it.
        Did you follow Jessica before, during, or after this? I did. I actually had a couple one off exchanges with her on her IG about fashion/beauty, I liked her. I didn’t unfollow until I saw that all she was interested in was making herself a victim. She couldn’t even post a picture of her son’s birthday party without mentioning how much she suffered from this episode. No words about the social issues at play, no words about accountability or even awareness.
        True, people don’t know better until they know better. But Jessica doesn’t know better and seems to be happy with that.
        Ultimately it doesn’t matter if Sasha had an agenda. It doesn’t change how Jessica responded and the fact that she is responsible for this. Someone being taken to task for being offensive is not bullying.

    • Maria says:

      People can send me messages all day about anything and it still isn’t going to make me fall back on Karen arguments and racist dogwhistles.
      How the “baited” person reacts matters.

      • Cheezypuff says:

        That’s the same excuse police officers make when a person of colour get pulled over for no reason and it is highly flawed. Sure how people react matters and can escalate and de-escalate situations, but culpability is not nearly as high as it is for the instigator. There are hundreds of other factors that play in to a reaction that do not for an instigation. It’s simple cause and effect. If you don’t want a response, don’t post a comment (Sasha, not you in this case).

      • Maria says:

        What are you talking about??? No it is NOT the same as the argument police officers make. Stop twisting that logic to fit the narrative to defend this white woman using dogwhistles against a Black woman.
        The argument YOU are making, that someone “instigating” things, IS the argument police officers use. That they were “misbehaving” or “breaking the law” and somehow deserve to be brutalized or killed.
        That’s not what happened here. But you are excusing the behavior of the woman who was “baited” by saying “culpability” is higher for the instigator? What does that even mean? It means nothing at all.
        If you don’t want a response, don’t post a comment, sure. But if you don’t want people calling you a racist, don’t respond like a racist, lol. Jessica did.

      • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

        Maria- Wonderful post, you outlined everything so well. CheezyPuffs- One further thought- in the cases of both Jessica Mulroney and the police officers, the main issue is the same, the gross imbalance of power- which you fail to acknowledge your comments.

    • mommadonna says:

      i have to agree. as a black woman, i don’t feel its necessary to try to force someone to post or comment about black issues (or any issues). i don’t want performative activism. i would rather you educate yourself and your children. while the sentiment can be appreciated, it doesn’t mean its genuine.

      • Fabiola says:

        I agree. It’s more important to teach your kids about racism and how to end it then to put out some fake post. If everyone taught their kids about racism and all that’s is wrong with it we would have a better world.

      • Cheezypuff says:

        So true! Those meaningful conversations and teaching early on are so much more effective than one retweet of a social media post, especially for the average person who does not have the reach and audience that a more socially prominent person does.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        Yes. I agree. I am a black woman too.

    • Nikki* says:

      This is really WONDERFUL advice, and I’m going to follow it for the rest of my life. Once under the influence of painkillers after surgery, I sent several emails. Have also sent emails when riled up. I am following your wise advice for the rest of my days.

    • Fabiola says:

      Sasha sounds really annoying. Who is she to tell someone what they should post about? How would she like it if someone demanded the same thing from her? It’s fine to support a cause but not bully people into it.

      • Amy Too says:

        I feel like people are kind of missing the point of SOCIAL media. It exists so we can talk to each other more easily and reach out to people we otherwise wouldn’t be able to. Sasha wanted to have a conversation with Jessica. Jessica has many public social media accounts where I’m sure she gets lots of unsolicited comments and DMs. Because that’s sort of the point of social media. If you just want a place to post all your pictures and you don’t want to interact with anyone, take out a billboard or keep your account private, turn off comments, block anyone from sending you messages. But the literal point of social media is to be more accessible to people, to facilitate contact and communication. Acting like someone commenting on your public social media page is the same as someone walking into your house to make comments about your decor or family or whatever is disingenuous. Social media pages aren’t the same thing as fan pages.

        And I think people might not understand the word bullying. Bullying is repeated, targeted harassment from a person with more power whose sole purpose is to cause harm and humiliation for a person with less power. Asking someone privately about why they’re posting this but not that or whatever is not bullying. It’s starting a conversation. Especially on social media where social interaction is the point of the application. People seem to be erasing the fact that Sasha is black and far less famous/wealthy/powerful/influential than Jessica who is white and hugely wealthy/famous/powerful in multiple sectors (media, business, politics)/influential. Sasha annoyed her by asking an uncomfortable question, she didn’t bully her.

    • Ronaldinhio says:

      I think Mulroney was baited and took the bait.

      She should know better. Her social media posts are her own business.
      If someone wants to drag her for not being enough of an ally then it is their opinion. She can’t control that or their behaviour.
      She should not have engaged.

      Where I work we have abusers troll our social media all the time. We work with abused people. Those who abuse set up fake accounts and make up all kinds of nonsense about the workers, organisation, management and lots of the people coming through the doors. Rubbish us and they figure those getting support would have nowhere to turn and maybe stay with an abuser.
      We ignore, block and delete. Some of it make zero sense and sometimes it is almost impossible not to say many things.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        she did. i am super cautious online and am even forbidden from having internet fights by my employer.

  4. Miss Margo says:

    Literally just made me hate her more. The fact that she is actually trying to somehow put the blame on Sacha. Jessica, you can’t just say a bunch of racist, problematic, narrow minded shit and just assume you can apologize everytime and all will be well.

    • Realistic says:

      I dunno, after reading the texts Sasha was the one who made the first threat which all seems ridiculous. Both these women have something to hide in those DMs or we would have seen them all. Sasha only showed us one screenshot, Jessica is probably only sharing select messages. They both seem shady to me

      • Snuffles says:

        That’s where I’m at. I think Sasha is shady as fuck and played Jessica like a violin probably because she knew her well enough to know she would go full Karen.

      • Nic919 says:

        Jessica shared no messages though. Kay’s interpretation of the messages is hardly the same as showing the actual messages.

      • Amy Too says:

        Notice though how it says “after a few more days of back and forth…” (which isn’t reported on, we don’t know what was said, but what we do know is Jessica felt she had screwed up bad enough to apologize) we get “Exeter then sends her final message, telling Mulroney, “Your comments in yesterday’s text thread are so problematic, you have no idea. It’s textbook Amy Cooper.””

        It seems like those comments, the ones that happened over “a few days” were the ones that were really problematic. And—how convenient!—they’re not included in the article.

      • Becks1 says:

        But you cant play someone like that unless you know how they’ll respond, right? Like if Sasha DMed me out of nowhere (LOL) and wanted to know why I wasnt posting about BLM, but was posting pictures of my kids, I would respond but I wouldnt necessarily take it personally and I wouldnt go off in a very “white woman tears” racist kind of way. If Sasha knew that JM would “go full Karen” does that say more about Sasha or about Jessica?

        I just keep coming back to how I felt when this all happened, which is that we’re not getting the full story at all but we do know that Jessica was being racist towards Sasha, and that’s NEVER okay. Saying things like “she was afraid of her anger” or whatever is pretty bad. So while I’m sure the version Sasha is presenting is not the full story, after a certain point I dont think it matters that much bc Jessica’s behavior was her behavior.

      • Nic919 says:

        Going to Barbara Kay for a defence against being racist would be like if an American went to Laura Ingraham. The fact that no one else wanted to take up Jessica’s cause against being too woke tells you a lot here. Also helps that her father in law still wields a lot of power in the Canadian conservative establishment.

      • Maria says:

        The difference is that Sasha is not still talking about this or trying to document it to prove her case and Jessica is (while utilizing the help of a racist weirdo).
        If Sasha was as much of an opportunist as people are saying she would be responding to this. She isn’t.

      • BnLurkN4eva says:

        I have to be honest that I am more horrified at what Sasha is saying here. This is messy but in my opinion Sasha does not come off well.

      • Maria says:

        Lol, she doesn’t “come off well” because this is a biased article without actually showing the conversation in full (where it was ADMITTED certain texts were deleted) written by a racist.

      • Amy Too says:

        Bnlurkin, That’s because they’re cherry picking the parts where only Sasha sounds “crazy,” like she’s just going off on Jessica for no reason. They hardly quote Jessica at all. The stuff she says isn’t even really summarized. But we’re getting the very worst of Sasha, and if the very worst is her saying “don’t ever compare yourself to me!” And “I’m so disappointed in what you said, it’s peak Amy Cooper,” then that’s not that bad. If she continually threatened Jessica over and over again and said she was going to call her out publicly until her career was ruined, that would be in this article. It’s not.

        This article is meant to be “the worst of Sasha” juxtaposed against “the best of Jessica.” And it still doesn’t sound good for Jessica.

      • Realistic says:

        Sasha also cherry picked what she shared about the matter. Both of these women are hiding things and only sharing what makes them look good. At the end of the day we are talking about opportunist influencers.

      • Maria says:

        Except, again, one of them moved on with her life and the other is working with a racist to bring it up again.

      • Amy Too says:

        “I, a not well known social media influencer, will share your response with my followers,” is not the same as “I, a millionaire heiress with ties to the business, media, and political world, will personally call your sponsors and attempt to get them to drop you.”

        And when Sasha “followed through” on her “threat,” I think is when she posted that kind of vague post about how she wished social media influencers were using their fame to talk about BLM. It sounds like she had a conversation with Jessica about why she wasn’t speaking out more if she was such an ally, it went back and forth, Sasha didn’t like the responses she was getting because they were very “I prefer to show my allyship privately in my own home,” and Sasha said she might share that with her followers. Then Sasha posts the general call out on social media, not actually naming Jessica. Jessica, who at this point should’ve been relieved that Sasha didn’t mention her by name, gets offended anyways and goes back to Sasha to complain, be rude, apologize, and then threaten to call Sasha’s business connections/sponsors. That’s when Sasha calls Jessica out by name for threatening her. Then Jessica “apologizes” again but still doesn’t know why she was wrong. End of communication between Sasha and Jessica.

      • Realistic says:

        @Amy too this is what talking about, why did you quote the thing about a millionaire like JM actually said that? We need to stop spreading misinformation that way. The timeframe you have mentioned isnt confirmed, we dont know what those additional conversations were bc they arent saying. I’m reading between the lines, the fact that neither is releasing the full story (dms, texts etc) means they are both hiding something.

      • Amy Too says:

        I obviously wasn’t direct quoting. I used quotes because I don’t know how to use italics in comments.

    • Paperclip says:

      Yeah…not sure this makes ‘ol Jess look better. 🤔

  5. Maliksmama says:

    Mulroney should’ve taken her L and went on about her business. Her need to prove she’s not racist is a waste of time. The people who know and follow and care about this nonsense have already made up their minds. Maybe now she’s gotten this off her chest, she’ll move on with her life.

  6. Sarah says:

    I can’t with this ridiculous woman. What a racist brat she is.

  7. Sofia says:

    I haven’t read the article itself and I’m not going to. I don’t care if they literally say that Sasha wanted to frame Jessica.

    The way Jessica acted afterwards was terrible to say the least. If Jessica truly knew she was “innocent” or whatever, she should have kept her mouth shut, offered a genuine apology and went about her life. But she didn’t and she couldn’t. Jessica was wrong for that and no amount of emails is going to exonerate her behaviour

    • Grey says:

      It’s the after part that matters! She is still out here blocking randoms on Twitter. I follow someone in Canada who mentioned the other day that they still though she was wrong and they got blocked. There is no way she is not searching out information about herself online.

  8. Sam says:

    From reading the texts,Jessica made a mistake in replying to her.How can you be coming to my page and taking offense at what I post.Thats an immediate block to me which is what Jess should have done

    • Mignionette says:

      ^^ This. One word, That is all.

      But it’s interesting that Jessica felt attacked by SE.

    • Godwina says:

      Yep. The entitlement of that, right? I wouldn’t block but I’d Ignore with Dignity, because that drives people nuts and takes their power away (in this kind of situation, anyway). Man, some periods my social is just a wall of progressive fury, and some periods it’s diversion stuff like food and cats and archeology and smarmy literature jokes. I have reasons for that, and no one gets to dictate my content. Come at me if I post a racist meme, sure–a different scenario entirely.

  9. Becks1 says:

    I still find this whole thing so bizarre and confusing – if these texts completely exonerated Jessica (I think there are a lot of white women tears in them), why not release them back in June or whatever?

    At this point I just dont think we have the full picture but I have to ask – do most people really care about the full picture? Jessica comes off as a privileged white woman, with a tendency to bully people who threaten her position, and I’m not sure these texts change that image of her. But is anyone – besides random gossip sites like this one – really wondering “what actually happened there?”

    The most confusing part about this to me though is how badly Jessica has handled this. You would think she would have better PR people to guide her through a crisis like this. She just had to lay low for 6 months or even a year and then make a quiet reappearance on social media but she was simply unable to do that.

    • Sofia says:

      For a woman like her, it’s all about ego.

      She cannot stand the fact that she was completely embarrassed and insulted in such a public manner. She’s not doing this because she wants forgiveness or she wants her jobs back or whatever. She’s just doing it so people will believe she’s the wronged party, innocent and start apologising to her which again, will feed her ego.

    • Realistic says:

      I care about the full picture bc even though I might not like Jessica personally I dont want to live in a society were a one sided accusation can ruin someone’s career. I want all the facts, then I will make my decision on who is to blame but I’m tired of only getting tidbits and partial truths.

      • Maria says:

        Well, you’re still not getting the full picture here.

      • Elizabeth says:

        It’s not a one sided accusation because there is literal written evidence Jessica threatened Sasha’s livelihood over a BLM issue. That’s the problem here, not whether Sasha was pressing Jessica to post on her page or whether Sasha initiated the conversation or whether Sasha wasn’t sufficiently obeisant to a white woman.

      • Becks1 says:

        I mean, having the full story that is 100% accurate behind anything like this is something that rarely happens, so then my point still stands. Even if we know all the lead up to Jessica’s final threats, does it take away from her racism or her bullying? My opinion is that it does not. She always had the option of just not engaging with Sasha.

      • Amy Too says:

        How is it one sided when we’ve heard from Jessica about 20x since this happened and each time she attempts to explain what happened and why she’s not racist and it still never comes off as exonerating her? We heard from Sasha once or twice. She said what she needed to say, then she was done. She’s not responding to these requests for comments and continuing the “fight” by continually adding new info. She presented what she needed to and then stopped. Then we have a bunch of tweets and videos and magazine interviews from Jessica telling her side of the story. It’s not one sided at all.

      • Realistic says:

        @Maria exactly, neither are sharing the whole story so neither get the benefit of the doubt or my empathy or praise.

        @Elizabeth Sasha threatened JM first and JM responded with a similar threat. Why is it okay for Sasha to threaten JM when she had in fact posted about BLM? So yes, we only got partial information from Sasha especially since she claimed JM took her general call to action personally which doesnt seem like the case. JM is only releasing select DMs, they both shady.

        @becks1 if sasha made the first threat then wouldn’t she be the bully?

      • Maria says:

        I can understand your view…but the one who isn’t still talking about it, isn’t working with Barbara Kay, and didn’t use institutionalized racism to try to bulldoze the other person (even if that person’s approach isn’t what I would have done) is the one who does get the benefit of the doubt, for me.

      • Elizabeth says:

        Realistic — Sasha would have maybe caused Jessica some *minor* social embarrassment… she had only a small platform. Jessica escalated the situation and overreacted when she then threatened to go after Sasha’s whole career “the brands” or whatever she worked with —and again, this is in writing. The power dynamics here are very different.

      • Realistic says:

        @Elizabeth well I think what we saw after Sasha called her out was JM loosing all her brand sponsorships and her jobs plus the public swarming her social media to call her a racist. So I think Sasha 100% knew the power of her words in her blog. Again both are shady, I’m not defending either bc they are both selling me a partial story. As the old saying goes there’s 3 sides to a story, hers, his and the truth.

      • Amy Too says:

        But that happened last, after Jessica threatened to ruin Sasha. Before that, the “comments” that Sasha was saying she was going to share with her followers were the ones about not wanting to post publicly about BLM and preferring to just work privately with her kids and family. Sasha found that disappointing. She threatened to share those comments with her followers. She didn’t threaten to go on a crusade trying to get Jessica fired and black listed. She said she would share with her not very large following. And those comments Jessica made that Sasha was threatening to share aren’t really offensive, so the whole thing wouldn’t have blown up. It might have sparked a conversation about who is supposed to be leading the way with BLM and what is the right way to do it. It would not have led to Jessica losing everything and being ruined. Most people would probably even be like “what’s so wrong about that? That’s fine, isn’t it?” And we know that Sasha didn’t even share those comments with her followers, anyways.

        But then Jessica kept up the argument with Sasha and ended with threatening her livelihood by saying she would personally call up brands to complain about Sasha. She told Sasha her voice didn’t matter because she wasn’t speaking kindly enough. She apologized multiple times throughout these exchanges so she knew she was getting herself in trouble with her words. And yet whenever she apologized she’d go back and double down. That is the behavior Sasha called out on social media. A wealthy white woman influencer threatening the livelihood of a black woman and threatening to sue her because she felt uncomfortable talking about racism and BLM with her. That’s why she lost her jobs and sponsorships. Because of how she handled this situation. Not because she didn’t post about BLM enough or because she disagreed with Sasha.

    • BnLurkN4eva says:

      I’m sure she had excellent PR advise, but one has to listen to their PR person in order to earn the benefits of said PR strategy. I think Jessica is so desperate to reclaim her position that she can’t, won’t be silent. The same impulse that prevented her from just shutting the heck up when Sasha first approached her, is the same impulse that’s driving her and causing her lasting damage. As the writer of this piece said, 6 months and it all would have been forgotten for the most part. But she never stopped talking, or stopped trying to be seen on social media where folks are unkind on a good day without cause, never mind when there’s cause.

    • Sarah says:

      I care because I know dozens of entitled “not racist” white women just like her (many even follow her) and they need to see why her/their behaviour is gross and that it has consequences.

      • Cheezypuff says:

        Agree with you, but wouldn’t this be better served with a conversation and showing the person why they are being problematic? Maybe a public shaming isn’t the best way to teach someone to be better.

      • Sarah says:

        In this particular case? I think the public shaming is warranted. Especially because it seems Jessica has done absolutely nothing to unpack her shit in the meantime.

  10. Nic919 says:

    The National Post columnist who wrote the recent article was Barbara Kay, who in Canada is a noted racist and basically said it was not a big deal for indigenous children to be taken from their families and put in residential schools, where many got physically and sexually abused. That is just one example of her racism. She also has a thing with cancel culture when rich white people get caught out.

    The original article never contained the actual emails, and Kay even admits that there were some that Jessica deleted so the pseudo narrative Kay writes in her own words conveniently ignores a lot. The fact that Kay was the only columnist in Canada to want to publish this also tells you a lot.

    (The part where Kay pretends that Exeter was rich because she got an athletic scholarship to Howard when Mulroney herself is daughter to the Brownstein fortune on top of daughter in law to PM Brian Mulroney is especially obtuse and tone deaf)

    The National Post was owned by Conrad Black and is now owned by an American company and they are a right wing paper that excuses the Tory establishment, which would include former conservative PM Brian Mulroney’s daughter in law. There was even a memo released a while back that stated that Brian Mulroney could basically publish what he wanted in that paper.

    So all of that needs to be considered when hearing Jessica’s tale of woe and pretend that the daughter in law of a former PM somehow has less power than a random black influencer.

    We also never get a reference to the “liable” threat she sent nor does she discuss the calls she did place to the companies that were sponsoring Exeter.

    What I don’t like is that people are acting as if the actual emails have been produced. They haven’t. So all opinions being made are being done on curated information to best serve Jessica.

    • Prairiegirl says:

      I was just going to say that Barbara Kay is a known right wing nut job here in Canada who can safely be ignored. Meanwhile, nic919 has laid out the situation very, very definitively and accurately. No need to say anymore, frankly. (thumbs up emoji)

    • Becks1 says:

      That stood out to me too – that we never saw the actual emails. She could have easily shown the actual texts/emails in the article and we never saw them, so then we’re still just having the word of JM vs SE as to what actually happened, and then we do have the admittance that some of the emails were deleted. But I dont think Sacha ever shared the actual emails/DMs/whatever either, right? besides the one threatening “liable.”

      • Realistic says:

        There is an Instagram account that has published the texts and DMs

      • Nic919 says:

        Hey what are the chances that someone who hired Navigator for crisis management is getting people to post on articles about Jessica to place vague defences? Hmm I wonder.

        Really interesting to see new handles here suddenly defending Jessica.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Nic I thought you were talking about me for a minute and I was like, I’m not new!! lol

      • Nic919 says:

        Becks – haha no I know your opinions come from a place of honesty. Not a troll farm.

      • Becks1 says:

        I am starting to wish someone would pay me for my opinions though LOL.

      • Realistic says:

        Nic919 you realize by posting stuff like this you are trying to bully me right? I have clearly said they are both opportunists so how in the hell does that make me a JM defender? Maybe I’m using critical thinking and evidence to come to a conclusion instead of just believing people who only want to tell you part of the story? Maybe some people want to hear the whole story before they jump to conclusions. You call anybody who disagrees with you even slightly a troll, if you cant have adult conversations without resorting to name calling go back to grade school.

      • Nic919 says:

        Wow this is sounding like Jessica’s white victim routine. Fact. You have not posted under this handle before. Fact. The Mulroney’s hired navigator to work on crisis management after this fiasco and help “find” the Lainey posts that were racist this shifting the target to her. Fact. Kay made sure to raise this story about Lainey in the article about Jessica to further the poor white victim routine.

        And now resorting to claims of bullying when facts are laid out.

        You can “both sides” this all you want but pretending that the full story has been laid out here is in fact incorrect. Critical thinking would require acknowledging the huge gaps of information in this version of events. And pretending that there are no social media tolls following this story around when it came out last week is also inaccurate.

      • Realistic says:

        @nic919 also love that you attacked me for simply stating that the Dms and tesxts are available on Instagram. Seems fair

      • Realistic says:

        @NIC919 why do you insist 9n not telling the truth? I 100% have posted before. I 100% do not, and never have, worked for navigator. In fact in several comments on this post I have referred to JM as an opportunist and shady. I have never said this is the whole story, in fact I have repeatedly said we arent getting the full story from either side. If you are going to attack me can you at least get the facts straight bc nothing you said was true.

      • Nic919 says:

        I pointed there are new posters here and the likelihood that some of them come from navigator or elsewhere is high. That you decided this applies to you personally is literally what Jessica did so honestly why did you even respond if this doesn’t apply to you. Stop playing fake victim here. And frankly your comments personally calling me a bully for pointing out a vague coincidence is you escalating the situation and making it personal. Again similar MO.

        And as the weekend has gone on my point has only been proven more correct.

        Let me know when a rich white woman is justified to go after a woman of colour’s business over text messages… I have yet to see anything that justifies that heinous behaviour and her actions now, going to noted bigot Barbara Kay to claim she is not racist, only adds to the stupidity of this situation.

    • Charfromdarock says:

      @nic919’s explanation is spot on.

      Barbara Kay is a despicable human being. If she says someone isn’t racist it’s a strong indication they are.

    • Margot says:

      Reading the National Post is like entering an alternate universe. They’re all so aggrieved.

    • CommentingBunny says:

      All if this. Kay is a wingnut.

    • Godwina says:

      This. I think Exeter is petty and would give her a wide berth, but (1) Mulroney is much grosser, and (2) IT’S THE NATIONAL POST. You have to grain-of-salt that whole paper, especially when it’s Barbara Key on race, omfg.

    • Sarah says:

      Excellent synopsis. This context really matters. Even if both women are “at fault” in some way, choosing not to see how Jessica holds all the power and benefits from wielding it in a country built on white supremacy is…a choice.

    • Layla Beans says:

      EXACTLY! As soon as I saw who the author of the story was, I was like “whatever.” Barbara Kay is the worst and it makes sense JM went to her to whine. Birds of a feather.

  11. hindulovegod says:

    She keeps going out of her way to let us know she’s whiny, privileged, self-obsessed, and tacky in order to prove she’s somehow not racist. Not the sharpest knife. . .

  12. Levans says:

    This does not help Jessica’s case at all. After all those messages, she still didn’t know what the mistake was?! Tone deaf! Jessica just doesn’t get it.

    And saying she was fearful of where Sasha’s “anger” may take her?! That playing into the angry black woman trope. Puh-lease. Jessica was fearful of being called out in public for being a performative ally.

    Then threatening brands with the “black woman just existing and calling out my bs is hurting my feeling” routine?! Another use of white supremacy to play the “fragile/delicate white woman” card at the expense of Sasha and Sasha’s business.

    And then having the paper declare Jessica “innocent” of moral crimes… what a joke. That’s not how any of this works. Jessica can have several seats.

  13. OriginalLala says:

    Please keep in mind who the source is – the National Post is pretty conservative and generally awful (ie: they love the Mulroney family), and the journalist is Barbara Kay, total racist a-hole.

  14. Willow says:

    This woman clearly misses the spotlight. How about stop pulling the victim card and find a better story? ‘Jessica goes back to fashion school’ ‘Jessica sews stylish face masks to donate to a local hospital’

  15. Sunny says:

    She must be hurting for money.

    Didn’t she lose some sponsors?

    Why else would she remind everyone about what transpired?

    So she figures if she gets it declared that she’s not a racist, boom. Jobs come back.

    Maybe she and her husband are not as wealthy as were led to believe. Or they just spend far more than comes in.

    • No money troubles! says:

      She will never hurt for money. Her family owns a large chain of shoe stores in Canada (Brown’s). And she personally bought the Canadian distribution rights to La Perla and Cosabella lingerie. I’m sure there are other business ventures.
      So it’s not money — her ego is driving this. Plus, I think she’s an entitled b!tch who would not hesitate to pull this on anyone regardless of their skin colour.

  16. harla says:

    Why after all this time is Jessica bringing this back into public view? I think that most people had forgotten about it and were moving on but to bring it up this many months later makes no sense nor does it make Jessica look any better.

  17. Larry says:

    I mean… maybe (probably not) it would be more convincing if she had forwarded the columnist the ENTIRE e-mail chain – if she is literally handing over printed pages, it would not be difficult at all for her to take out the bits that make her look bad (pretty sure we are all familiar with the “print page range” function – though, I hope, use it for smarter things than that). Bleurgh

    • Larry says:

      And just to clarify – not ‘look bad’ but ‘reveal what a racist arsehole she is’. It’s not a question of optics but fundamentally about attitude.

  18. lucy2 says:

    I haven’t followed this story that closely – did these two women know each other personally before this all happened?
    It seems like this Jessica had 2 better options – ignore or block Sasha’s initial message if she didn’t want to engage, or actually listen to Sasha and consider her perspective, and say “You know, you’re right, I will.” and post something in support of BLM.
    Instead doing this back and forth the point of threatening Sasha’s career…JFC lady, what are you thinking? And to keep the story going by trying to prove…something? every so often is just stupid.

  19. Cee says:

    They’re both assholes. They both made it personal and they both came across as self-absorbed idiots.

    • Realistic says:


    • MF1 says:

      I agree. They’re both awful. Can they both be cancelled please?

    • Maria says:

      Well, for Sasha, Black Lives Matter IS personal (as it should be to all of us).
      She may not be the most amazing person ever, I don’t follow her at all, but the idea that “both should be cancelled” or “they are equally bad” just because Mulroney decided to come forward months later with a specifically curated narrative in print with the help of the unhinged Barbara Kay is a little…questionable.

      • Cee says:

        Sasha targeted Mulroney specifically for not posting about BLM. Did she target everyone else, too?
        Mulroney’s mistake was engaging instead of ignoring, and being stupid and entitled enough to threaten someone else’s livelihood.
        So yeah, in my book, they’re both assholes and horrible people.

      • Maria says:

        Since it was admitted in this article there were deleted messages, we don’t know the answer to either of those questions.

        In any case, Sasha is allowed to question whoever she wants about anything. That doesn’t mean anyone is obligated to respond. Jessica chose to. And she chose to do so in ways that white women traditionally use against WOC and Black women. And Jessica is now using a rightwing racist as her mouthpiece to try to exonerate herself. That’s a problem.

      • Cee says:

        I’m not saying Mulroney is not to blame. I’m saying Sasha is not guiltless as previously assumed.

      • Maria says:

        People were questioning Sasha’s motives and how she approached Jessica when this happened, so the idea that people thought she was guiltless isn’t really accurate and it’s also a moot point.
        The idea they are equally bad is really not accurate.
        Agree to disagree.

      • Bex says:

        And yet, Sasha had no problem kiki-ing with the racists anti-Meghan haters who camped out in her comments section. Sasha is the one who brought Meghan into it (and went running to the racist Daily Mail to sell her “side”). She also had ZERO problem with her aunt excusing Lainey’s racism towards Janet Jackson, Meghan, and other Black American celebs. I guess that was because Lainey doesn’t shit on Black Canadians like she does Black Americans.

        Either way, I don’t see it for Sasha, especially after she jumped in front of any camera to give Meghan, a biracial woman, advice on how to raise a biracial child.

      • Maria says:

        Sasha didn’t go to the Daily Mail, if my research is correct. I looked at all the articles I could find that they posted on this issue. They merely reported on the story using exactly what the rest of us saw on Instagram and were very explicit in describing that that was their source material.

        As I have said repeatedly, I don’t follow her beyond this episode, and maybe she does suck as a person. But none of what you said makes any difference in excusing Jessica’s actions, which is what people are implying here, and that is what I am addressing.
        Jessica still acted like an ass, regardless of what Sasha did. And she did so in classically racist ways which is why the parties are not equal in this situation. They won’t ever be, because Jessica is white and Sasha is not.

  20. HK9 says:

    She should have kept her mouth shut and just moved on. Everyone in Toronto knows Barbara Kay’s a racist and she’s done herself no favours, I had forgotten about this, and now that she’s tried to use a paper to come after this girl again, it’s reminded me that Jessica is an entitled twat.

    • Cheezypuff says:

      Is she? I don’t know anything about her but it sounds like you have some tea! What did she do? I find google never has the good on the ground character tea that people do.

      • Nic919 says:

        Barbara Kay has stated that indigenous children taken from their families and placed in residential schools “were fine”. Ignoring the decades of physical and sexual abuse documented and for which a settlement was eventually provided. We are talking Catholic Church levels of abuse.

  21. Lyds says:

    What puzzles me is Jessica’s groveling tone…she claims she needs time to “do the right thing,” but when the “right thing” is simply showing public support for BLM, she refuses in public and still wants Sasha to give her a pass in private. If you’re not interested in showing support just say so! Speaking out of both sides of her mouth seems to be her thing.

    • Realistic says:

      You need to read the texts, JM posted an MLK quote and Sasha felt that wasnt enough.

    • Kkat says:

      You’re sure singing Jessica’s praises all over this post Realistic.
      I was on IG watching Sasha’s ig stories because I follow her. She said something vague about influencers not doing enough and then here came Jessica running to post vile shit on Sasha’s ig.
      I didn’t come away from that thinking Sasha was all that great, but I DID come away from it knowing Jessica is a racist, a bully, and was wielding her political and rich bitch power to squash a little know black influencer.

  22. KW says:

    Ok. So clearly she is dumb. Basic and dumb. The clothes speak for themselves. Why on earth is she rinsing and repeating and regurgitating this? Now she even shows that she’s more problematic. She threatened, she cried, and now, months later, she is bringing it up saying “See?” See what? You still did it, and now you are claiming that you don’t know what you did wrong, but you apologized? For what then? Omg, split personalities came with the new faces, girl. Go to NP and bring something you have learned to it. She’s a hot mess and she still doesn’t get it. If the nail wasn’t in the coffin in June, claiming ignorance and innocence seven months later just wears like the bad outfits she sporting about town. Cancel this clown. For good.

  23. GrnieWnie says:

    yeah I don’t think Sasha comes off as self-contained as she presented in her version of events but there was no coming back for Jessica when she said, “You think your voice matters but it doesn’t unless you can speak kindly” or something along those lines. No coming back from that, clueless.

    And I get Sasha’s frustration. It can be so annoying to have the same conversations with clueless people over and over again. You see it on social media all the time, too. Like when black people start pointing out that asking to touch their hair is annoying, 500 white people come out of the woodwork asking, “but why?” And it’s like…are you really so clueless you don’t know this behavior is so common that it’s a stereotype? It’s a stereotype of white people and this is news to you. Clearly, you spend approximately 0 seconds of your life hanging out with black people because when you do, it only takes about 2 seconds for this to come up. I totally get the frustration with trying to explain perspective over and over.

  24. JennyJazzhands says:

    So, what was the purpose of the threat if you never did anything wrong? Make it make sense.

  25. Realistic says:

    I read the texts and DMs and then rewatched Sashas “Amy cooper” video and I felt Sasha left out massive pieces of information to make herself look like the victim when in fact she actually threw the first threat. That being said I dont think JM shared all the DMs and texts so my opinion is that they are both opportunists and neither deserve my praise or respect.

    • Cee says:

      ITA. They’re both horrible people. They both used racism against the other.

    • BnLurkN4eva says:

      This is where I am at present.

      @Cee Sasha cannot use racism against Jessica because reverse racism is not a thing given the power dynamics of racism. What Sasha may have done is use the movement to her benefit and that’s dangerous to the BLM movement. I hope that’s not what Sasha did and given that we don’t have the full picture, I can’t say for sure. What I do know is that Sasha is suspect in my eyes because of the way she allowed bullying of Meghan in her comment section while calling out bullying against herself.

      • Cee says:

        I didn’t say that. She used racism, what white women use against black women all the time, against herself. And that’s why I’m so baffled at what she did.

      • Maria says:

        Who used racism against herself?
        Jessica or Sasha?
        Jessica can’t use racism against herself. Sasha didn’t use it against herself, Jessica used it against her.

      • BnLurkN4eva says:

        @Cee, I’m afraid I am not following you.

      • CC2 says:

        I believe cee means that Sasha used the excuse of racism against Jessica or commonly known as played the race card. she attacked her by acting like their arguments were solely based on Jessica’s white privilege and her attacking a black woman, when in reality, their feud goes deeper than that. Not that Sasha is a racist herself. If that’s not what she kwans, then I’m lost too

        I’m torn here because I think Sasha had valid points and Jessica could have clearly handled this better instead of using her WP, but I don’t agree with calling Jessica a racist because of their exchanges.

  26. Maria says:

    Sasha may have framed the discussion a certain way but nobody forced Jessica to give the answers she did.
    And if these texts were so exonerating for Jessica we would have seen them when this happened. And we would see them in full, not through a mouthpiece.
    We all make mistakes but Jessica’s self-victimizing after the event (even to the point of mentioning how wounded she was in a post that was supposed to be about her child’s birthday) and redrawing it as some discussion about bullying is ridiculous and wiped away what sympathy I had for her in this situation. And if she decided to work with a known racist to release this story, she’s even worse.

  27. Amy Too says:

    Jessica says twice in this article that she apologized but not for the right reasons. She “apologizes” the first time because she was scared of what the angry black woman might do to her. Then she keeps going back and forth with her and ends up threatening her, followed by “apologizing” again, yet she claims she doesn’t really know what she was apologizing for since she doesn’t know what she did that was so wrong. This is all a very obvious pattern: Jessica “apologizes” and tries to victimize herself when it looks like there might be consequences for her bad behavior. She doesn’t mean her apologies because when they’re not immediately accepted and she’s not immediately treated like a special princess again by the person she upset enough to apologize to, she gets nasty again and keeps pushing whatever her point was, and then is forced to “apologize” again. She screws up with Sasha, apologizes, screws up again with Sasha, apologizes, gets called out on social media, tearfully victimizes herself and attempts to apologize, gets called out for victimizing herself, runs to tabloids to vindicate her and apologize, gets called out for STILL NOT GETTING IT, and runs to another tabloid to apologize and attempt to spin it and victimize herself and put all the blame on Sasha. Over and over again. She’s not learning. Even IF whatever happened with Sasha wasn’t as bad as Sasha says it was (and I’m saying IF because I believe Sasha that it was bad), just the way that Jessica has handled this whole thing shows that she is not a good person. She is using all the racist tropes and white woman tears tactics to try to ruin Sasha and build herself up, again. And again, and again, and again. Every time she does one of these interviews or articles trying to “prove she’s not racist” she ends up bringing the whole thing back up again, forcing Sasha to have to deal with calls from tabloids asking her to say that Jessica isn’t racist and Sasha herself was just angry, and ends up sending a bunch of racist or “both sides” commenters to Sarah’s social media where they call her out for being a mean black lady who baited the poor white woman. Just stop it. Just stop talking, Jessica. You are making it worse. There is no perfect thing you can say now or have written about yourself now that will vindicate you completely and erase what happened from everyone’s memory.

  28. Amelie says:

    Two wrongs don’t make a right. It is possible Sasha sent Jessica unsolicited messages about what to post on her social media. I would also be severely annoyed if someone out of the blue started messaging me and telling me what I should and shouldn’t post. It’s my profile, get off my lawn type of deal. And it can be so hard but you just don’t engage if you don’t agree with someone’s POV. It just leads nowhere. It is the way Jessica chose to respond that brought this all on. And given that we don’t have access to all the correspondence, it’s really hard to believe that is the way it went down between Sasha and Jessica. Anyways, we’ve all moved on from this and hopefully Sasha will ignore all this.

  29. Ohreally says:

    Summary: Sasha tried to express how important it was that Mulroney use her social capital to be a public ally (especially when she uses her half BLACK royal friend as social capital.) Mulroney responds tepidly because… she really is not interested in upsetting people who don’t want to hear it (peace over truth seems to be a white culture staple… don’t call me out because it makes me feel bad so now I have to punish you with my very big power that I don’t care if you actually get because being uncomfortable is not making me happy…or any money.

    Sasha didn’t use her name. She was vexed and did what people do a lot…vent on social media. Mulroney was a hit dog that not only hollered, but went for Sasha’s jugular. It happens everyday between Karens and whomever crosses them. So… what if she did wait to use her angry words in person? She’s still looking to wield her considerable power over someone with less. How would she explain her angry words? The mean Black lady told her she was riding the culture while not paying any returns? Was she wrong? Isn’t her current claim to fame… Meghan Markle…who is biracial?? Karens might not have a lot, but they have audacity.

    It always amazes me that so many people can pat themselves on the back for being able to see racism et al in their community and then contort themselves back around to also call those same bigots decent. Ever wonder if they’re decent to everyone?? Or just to people that look like them. You can’t choose your neighbors, but let’s not stretch to pretend they’re something they’re obviously not.

    • Darla says:

      Unless it’s true that Sasha had already DM’d her prior to her post calling out “everybody” high profile. In which case Jessica was being subtweeted and knew it. Don’t respond to a subtweet, period. And her response does show her stupidity, or worse, no doubt.

      I wonder what could have been accomplished if one of the two had picked up the phone and had a conversation. I know people are going to say I’m defending a Karen, but I’m not. I have learned by way of VERY hard lessons that there is NO tone in writing, and that texts and private messages and emails and DM’s often start terrible brawls that would never have happened in a phone call. At this point in my life if I am texting and things even begin to get testy for any reason, I immediately stop and make the call. It’s saved me a lot of trouble and drama. Some of my friends are absolutely insane in texts, and I’m like wtf are you talking about I am not saying that? Even my best friend. Just call man. Whatever you think of this particular situation, take that advice to heart and save yourself a lot of grief.

      • Golly Gee says:

        That’s an astute observation about how limited writing can be when communicating. All the subtleties of tone of voice, volume, pauses etc. communicate much more fully and accurately. Face-to-face adds even more information to the message through facial expressions and body posture. When a person responds to you with misunderstanding of what you have said, you are able to correct it immediately before more fuel is added to the fire escalating the situation. There are nuances which can be picked up subconsciously indicating the other person’s intentions when the words they speak match or don’t match. This makes such a difference in being able to connect with and understand another person. The problem with writing and social media in particular is that not everybody has the ability to write in terms of accurately relating their viewpoint. This creates huge fires very quickly on social media.

  30. Gia says:

    Since Jessica has nothing better to these days than read what’s written about her, all I’ve got to ask is Jess, what is the point of running to the National Post? Do you really think that now that a known racist from the rightwing press has written a puff piece in your favour that all your sponsors are going to come back swanning to you? You are persona non grata because you were a nasty piece of work to begin with and the Sasha debacle was just a good reason to dump you. Don’t worry though sweetie, you still have all the money your father in law stole and your extreme privilege to keep you warm at night.

    • Darla says:

      Yeah, this was an incredibly dumb ass move, and does make her look worse.

    • Becks1 says:

      My working theory is that she went to the NP (which I had never heard of before this, so I”m just going off what the Canadian CBers here are saying about it) because no one else would do this. No one else would just type out what the texts allegedly say without being able to print screenshots of the actual texts. No one else would so blatantly side with Jessica here at the expense of a black woman who was being threatened by her. Maybe this was Jessica’s first choice and this is her go-to person, but my guess is this was probably all that was available to her at this point.

  31. New_Kay says:

    I hope that as a Black woman Celebitchy will allow me to comment, because my comments are often not posted. What Jessica Mulroney and the National Post (known in my family as a racist paper- with the same agenda as The Sun) are doing is justifying her racism. The fact that she released these messages as vindication- indicates that she truly has no understanding of anti-Black racism and Sasha Exeter was completely correct.

  32. alibeebee says:

    Hi Canadian here … so I saw the timeline and screenshots of the actual texts. there was a call to action and Jessica did nothing ( she says she did not see the post ) and was contractually obligated to post about her wedding show. Jessica did the MLK quote and then sasha sent her a message , then Jessica asked are you targeting me specifically and Sasha says yes. I admit Jessica was tone deaf , Sasha gave her emotional labour and explained things. Jessica thanked her on IG . The real mistakes are on both of these ladies. Sasha was pissed ( rightly so) and Jessica should have been aware enough not to ask sasha for even more emotional labour to learn and do better. As A black woman, I get Sasha’s frustration i’d be mad as hell but I also know you can teach and educate but you cannot harangue someone into lending their voice. I also have to note that some of the messages Sasha sent would not be my method but i am different person. Sasha is not the helpless victim and Jessica is not the cruel bully she was made out to be. this boils down to one tone deaf privileged woman asking for more emotional labour than someone had the ability to give at the moment in time.

    This is a whole mess.

    • Maria says:

      I don’t think Sasha ever said she was a helpless victim. She doesn’t need to be one to make Jessica still wrong in this situation.

      • Cee says:

        She compared herself to Amy Cooper’s victim. She presented both situations as being equal.

      • Maria says:

        The idea of mentioning Amy Cooper was to contextualize the idea of white female entitlement, not to pretend she was just like her victim.

      • Cheezypuff says:

        She referred to it as her “Amy Cooper moment” numerous times. She did this to purposely evoke the image that she was a defenseless person minding her own business and was attacked online out of nowhere. But that is clearly not the case. They were both wrong on so many levels.

      • Maria says:

        Uh, yes, like I said, it was meant to contextualize what was happening. Nowhere did she say it was the same situation.
        Read more closely.
        And please stop trying to make Jessica a victim. She is not one.

    • Nic919 says:

      Sasha stated in her IG video that Jessica was contacting the companies that provide Sasha work. Of course Jessica never put that in a text but that kind of behaviour would be bullying. And there has been no defamation lawsuit from Jessica yet. If Sasha was lying about that then I would think she would have sued her by now.

  33. Lunasf17 says:

    Both these women seem off to me. Why does the Sacha woman get to police what other people put on their Instagrams? That is just so dumb to me. Yes it would be great to see influential people post pro BLM stuff but also it is just Social Media! Getting mad because people aren’t posting what you think they should be it’s just ridiculous to me. Clearly Jessica is an entitled ass but the Sacha person (I have no idea what she is about other than from this site) seems ridiculous and was clearly looking to start some shit and Jessica took the bait. This whole thing is dumb IMO. People need to get off Instagram more if they are this invested or interact with different people.

    • Nic919 says:

      The part that made Sasha go public was when Jessica was contacting the companies that Sasha promotes. If you notice Jessica never sued Sasha for slander after she said that in the IG video. If that was an outright lie then she would have done so by now.

    • CC2 says:

      I agree.

      Sasha saying “I am deeply disappointed in the response. But your response will be discussed with my community and followers.” was her stirring poop, lol. Jessica panicked and asked what was so wrong, and Sasha basically said “If you cannot be uncomfortable for a few minutes and fear what people will say to you, just imagine how ppl of colour have felt their entire lives. It is a cop out. It is cowardly. It is sad and pathetic.” (quotes from the article)

      This just seems like Sasha wanted to start something. The article goes on to say that they talked normally after that and it all started back up when Jessica was upset Sasha was throwing shade. Sasha said ‘Sorry not sorry’ and when Jessica said that it felt unnecessary, Sasha brought up J’s posts.

      Jessica then said Sasha was also posting ads and then Sasha got upset and told her off and it seems like she continued to tell her off by saying things like Jessica will never be woke.

      As a woman of color, the emotional labour Jessica expected from Sasha was annoying. I’ve had these conversations so so soooo many times. But reacting that way? We don’t know the full story, but Sasha’s responses was unnecessarily inflammatory and she looks like she just wanted to fight. Of course we don’t have to full exchange so the narrative may be different. I just don’t get why Sasha was being extra here. I would have just said something along the lines of “Yea it was about you before we settled that conversation” instead.

      It’s just disappointing to see. She’s also shady for letting mugxits stay on her page.

      • BnLurkN4eva says:

        You have expressed how I feel about this situation. I truly feel like Sasha escalated a situation that could have been easily resolved. Let me again acknowledge that I have some issues with Sasha because she entertained vile Meghan haters in her comment section while calling out bullying that has colored my opinion of her.

        As for Jessica, she should not have responded period, but given her repeated attempts at bungling her response to Sasha, I have no defense for her, she played herself and continues to do so. I mean how is going to a known racist going to help your cause in this situation?

      • alibeebee says:

        that’s exactly what i was saying above … Jessica’s fault was asking for more emotional labour than sasha was willing or capable of giving. It could have been handled so differently.

    • anniefannie says:

      @ lunasf17 THIS, all day long! Both of them seem way up their own asses, and the sense of entitlement runs both ways. Neither look good and for both their sakes should walk away, head down and quickly!

  34. Jaded says:

    Barbara Kay is a virulently pro-Israel mouthpiece who has repeatedly gotten into hot water with her biased articles accusing Quebec politicians of siding with terrorist groups like Hezbollah. In 2007, the Quebec Press Council released a decision condemning Kay for “undue provocation” and “generalizations suitable to perpetuate prejudices”. She quit the National Post in July 2020 due to what she describes as “too much editorial scrutiny of her columns”. She also writes for the Epoch Times, a far-right international multi-language newspaper and media company that is very pro-Trump. So this mostly unsubstantiated opinion piece on the Jessica/Sasha war is clearly an attempt to whitewash Jessica’s sterling reputation and put the blame on a POC.

    • Yasmine says:

      THIS. She has defended Israeli apartheid and colonialism repeatedly and is a MAGA type racist. It blows my mind to think of why anyone thought it was good idea to go to her for an opinion piece.

  35. Evilbun says:

    I think the context here paints both women negatively— but Jessica more so.
    Remember Jessica was being dragged by trolls because of her association to Meghan. Anything she does, if it was even marginally related to Meghan, would then go on to be reported on and trolled etc. Singling her out for not talking about blm seems a bit…calculated to me.
    I live in Canada and sasha’s aunt, Marci Ien, who teamed up with Lainey and co to take Jessica (and mysteriously Ben her husband immediately after) down just became an MP after the Sasha stuff happened. In the political party rivalling Brian Mulroney (Jessica’s FIL) It smells a bit like a political set up too. Idk. Or if not a setup, then as something that was used to open doors for someone privileged like a national tv host.
    This is not to say Sasha didn’t have the right to call people out. But I Jessica got played, and in a way that benefits Sasha, her aunt, Lainey, and more people…either was very lucky or very good politics

    • Nic919 says:

      Marci Ien ran for MPP as a Liberal in a by election after the finance minister resigned and that was months after this incident came out. Ben had already left his etalk hosting position by then (he still works at CTV though ). There is no political connection here.

      I don’t know why the hosts of the Social keep getting dragged into this because they had nothing to do with the interaction between Jessica and Sasha. None of them made Jessica text or act the way she did. They at most commented on it as much as anyone else here did. After it all went down.

      • Bex says:

        They’re being dragged into it because they gave space to Lainey to “apologize” for the racism she directs towards Black American celebs.

        She consistently did this for years, without any real change in her behavior UNTIL last year.

        They called for Jessica’s firing, which they were right to do. But then, to defend Lainey and hug her when she turned on the tears because people RIGHTFULLY called her a hypocrite?


      • Nic919 says:

        Lainey acknowledged the racist posts and have left them on there. She also didn’t pretend she wasn’t hypocritical. At the moment Jessica has failed to do anything similar and is instead going to a known bigot in canadian media for a woe is me white girl defence.

        We are also not discussing that Jessica contacted the brands Sasha worked for and that is when Sasha did the IG video. I still haven’t seen a text that justifies sabotaging someone’s career because they feel uncomfortable about being told their support of BLM is not enough. None of those actions are discussed by Kay.

    • Amy Too says:

      You can’t make someone be a racist, tone deaf, threatening jerk if they’re not already okay with being a racist, tone deaf, threatening jerk. I feel like this whole “she was set up!” thing is like claiming someone who punched a person in the face and then kicked them while they lay on the ground was set up to do that because the person poked them.

  36. Evilbun says:

    @NIC919 I understand where you are coming from. I’ve been involved in small time and provincial politics— and this situation just smells like politicking. Running for MP is often privileged to people in the Party’s orbit, people who have done good by the party etc. Marci ien was in no way qualified for her position, and was not even from the riding she ran in (I live there). I’m sure a takedown of Brian mulroneys son, and a potential future conservatives party figurehead, did not lose her any points there, to say the least

    • Nic919 says:

      That’s fair, but this was all done after the fact. The claims that Ien was some operative going after Jessica Mulroney when Mulroney tried to attack her niece’s business aren’t logical. And she couldn’t have planned for Morneau to resign when he did.

  37. Evilbun says:

    I would also say that the ladies of that talk show with Marci did more than just discuss it. Ben was their coworker. It was personal. I thought it was a bit eh that they went after ben’s spot in the channel, with lainey’s essay that made Jessica’s antics about the mulroneys.
    Ben had nothing to do with any of it. He lost his long running tv position as a result anyway

    • Cheezypuff says:

      Exactly! Both women were wrong, and both were being Karens yet only one of them had their world collapse and her friends and family’s lives impacted. It seems to me people just didn’t like Jessica and Ben (could be justified, what the heck do I know) and we’re too afraid to appear to be supporting a white person and further contribute to problematic behaviour towards a woman of colour (rightfully so) and so they took a side.

      • Maria says:

        People did dislike Jessica and Ben for some good reasons.
        However, I did like her before all this went down and I was still following her for sometime after; her behavior after the situation really turned me off (no maturity or gravity whatsoever) and I had to unfollow her. I don’t know much about Sasha but I do know that the microaggressions and dog whistles of a white woman will always be more damaging and wrong than any problematic behavior from a Black woman or woman of color.

      • BnLurkN4eva says:

        @Cheezypuff, I wanted Jessica to do better and be better. I liked her and cannot like Sasha because I think she didn’t conduct her interaction with Jessica in good faith and other reasons I’ve already stated elsewhere in this post.

        The problem continues to be that Jessica refuses to take a step back and learn to listen and grow from the experience. It sucks that she mucked it up in her interaction, but she should have taken her lumps and gone away for a bit like the writer of this post suggested. At the end of the day, I can’t support Jessica because she keeps showing she doesn’t deserve support. Going to a racist for support after a situation like this, who does that if they mean well?

      • Nic919 says:

        This is a reasonable comment. No one needs to love Sasha, but what Jessica did was worse and she’s still unable to acknowledge any fault. If that’s not rich white entitlement I don’t know what is.

  38. MsIam says:

    Yeah, Jessica lost me at the “fearful of where Sasha’s anger might take her” comment. Hopefully that is just that columnist’s spin on what she said, otherwise Jessica is coming off as peak Karen. Who is advising Jessica’s PR rehab, Fox News?

  39. osito says:

    I really think that people need to take some deep breaths and check their assumptions again after trading through this comments section. You could fill a bible with e-mails going back and forth, and it wouldn’t change Jessica Mulroney’s racist re-telling of events, *which lends credence to Sasha Exeter’s claims* that JM was using both microaggressions and outright threats because she felt challenged by Exeter in direct messages as a vague Instagram post that didn’t name her directly. In fact, she felt *more* challenged by the Instagram post than the direct interaction the two were having, and used it time and again to talk about how “afraid” she is and was of Exeter’s “anger,” which to this day amounts to …. a handful of DMs and an Instagram post. So many comments in this post are echoing Mulroney’s talking points — both the implicit “You can’t tell ME what to do!” and the classic misogynoire trope “She’s so threatening and angry” — that it’s kind of scary. The big problem was not Exeter being “shady” or in her feelings about BLM or calling out her peer in private messages. This big problem is still *racism*. Evidence of that is all over both the original issue, and in the continued interviews and reviewing of evidence binders. When you bend to try to make Exeter addressing racism as *she perceived it* the problem, you ignore the racism. I don’t understand how in 2021, after *everything* 2020 put us through, we’re still making black women and their feelings and the ways in which they choose to address their feelings the problem. (Royal we, generalized they on that last point — as a black woman, some of these comments are a total gut punch).

    • CC2 says:

      Not going to lie, I do think Sasha’s reactions were an issue. It is not the big issue, but she handled it poorly and when that happens, there’s nothing wrong with calling it out. Not every reaction to racism should be defended imo.

      Tensions already died down after Jessica acknowledged publicly that Sasha opened her eyes but then Jessica asked if that post was about her and then commented that it was unnecessary. Sasha then started to be harsh and it didn’t seem to stop after that.

      This is a fantastic case of sh*t communication. Jessica was too wrapped in her white girl privilege to understand certain things like how Sasha’s ad posts are not the same as hers and she could have easily moved on from the post given that Sasha and her were fine at that point. Sasha didn’t want to engage in emotional labour and to teach Jessica, but instead of pointing that out and ending it, she lashed out consistently.

      At the end, you get a confused white woman who still doesn’t get why you’re lashing out, continues to see it from a “Friend scolding me for i don’t know what” paradigm instead of “Black friend being tired about my white fragility” and continues to dig her grave by apologising and being hurt, which is seen as her victimising herself by the friend.

      I’ve had this conversation about race so many times with people like Jessica so I’m still struggling to understand Sasha’s reaction of wanting to show everyone Jessica’s response in the first place, or even bringing the original post. If it was me I’ll probably throw general shade instead of confronting someone if I have no desire to teach. Sis was out here looking for a fight, and I just think it’s shady of her, even if her original point about better anti racism messaging is perfectly valid. Her reaction towards Meghan trolls cemented it for me.

      Maybe I’m looking at it from a very strategic or functional POV here, because I tend to see what’s the best way to advance our cause as opposed to just reacting? I don’t want to come across as cold here by focusing on the image because I get the frustration …but at the end of the day, we are again left with Fragile White Woman and Angry Black Woman because tone and energy was not matched. People are just going to see Jessica apologising again and again and being submissive, while Sasha berates her. That’s the exchange people will remember.

      Edit to add that I am not sure whether Jessica actually tried to contact brands or if she said she would, because the former would show that J lied about the exchanges.

      • osito says:

        The problem with “not every reaction to racism should be defended” is that it presupposes we understand why the reaction is manifested the way it is (which, we don’t unless you personally know both of these people and their history of interactions), and we’re straying into side arguments about respectability politics that *again* takes the attention away from the racism and blames marginalized peoples for their “role”.

        In this specific instance, you don’t have to like Exeter or her reactions to note that Mulroney’s behavior was still out of line, both at the time and now. Since Mulroney’s racist behavior is the bigger issue, taking time to scold Exeter — or worse excuse Mulroney because Exeter was being “aggressive” — is just deflecting from that larger issue *and* silencing Exeter in one fell swoop. If the playing field were actually level, and racism wasn’t a problem, we could have discourse about civility in public and private discourse until the cows come home. We can’t do that right now, though, because Mulroney (and some commenters here on this very thread) are still participating in racist behavior and repeating microaggressions over and over with the same “I’m not the problem, so don’t come at me” attitude that makes it really hard to ever productively talk about race, let alone actually reach common understanding of how the giant issue of Racism gets played out in tiny ways between individuals all the time.

        Putting it in context of a lot of the discussions people were having in the late spring/early summer: There was active discussion encouraging people to reach out to people in their sphere of influence and ask them for support or to encourage/demand that they “do better” in their allyship. Mulroney and Exeter are peers in the same professional sphere (clearly, if they have the same contacts, audiences, and appear in the same media) — Mulroney’s sphere is bigger, but there’s still enough overlap that it’s not inconceivable that Exeter reached out and expected a response. Those conversations degenerated into nonsense as they sometimes do, and Mulroney made threats to damage Exeter’s professional relationships, which is really where all of this went left. It careened into the gutter when Mulroney then made statements casting Exeter is an “an angry black woman,” which even if Exeter was angry, and is black, is still a racist trope. Whatever Exeter’s role in this, Mulroney didn’t have to do any of that. Mulroney’s behavior from the “I’ll ruin you” to the “fearing her anger” is the Big Problem that needs to be fixed right now. We can fix how people to respond to the Big Problem when we have the problem itself under control.

        For a brilliant, eloquent explanation of the bigger issues and having room for “ugly” reactions to racism (in a much more serious context than Mulroney’s microaggression) check out the video of Kimberly Latrice Jones in the middle of the protests this Spring/Summer:

        Jones is *very* passionate, and the language isn’t always nice, but she *expertly* explains why the reactions aren’t always calm/controlled/polite as the stakes increase. It gave me a lot to think about as a BIPoC woman who has been trained her whole life through to approach the Big Problems with sensitivity to the feelings of the people who oppress me, rather than make demands that *my* feelings be centered in my fights for justice and equality.

    • Elizabeth says:

      100%. I am especially upset seeing literal “both sides.” There is no equality here. Sasha is a Black woman in occupied indigenous land with a relatively small following online. Jessica is an extremely rich, quite famous, well-connected white woman whose father in law is a former *conservative* prime minister with his own share of scandals. There is a LOT going on here.

      Sasha doesn’t have to be a perfect person for us to acknowledge what’s obvious, that she suffered racial abuse and threats from Jessica or that the larger system in Canada is violently racist. *No one* forced Jessica to threaten Sasha in any way or to write anything rude or dismissive to her. Sasha did not force her into anything and Sasha is not responsible for what Jessica did or wrote. *Jessica* is responsible for herself.

      Jessica comes off as amazingly unprofessional. The best, smartest move for her would have obviously been to apologize, retreat, preferably donate and do charity work, listen and learn, and later come back slowly into a new phase of her career without dragging it all up again and again. At a minimum, this approach shows she really doesn’t care about Sasha and has not considered what is best for Sasha. And yes — she should care. That’s her primary problem. She is STILL unable to empathize even in a small way with a Black woman trying to get more support for BLM. She is unable to articulate why Sasha might feel hurt. She cannot admit to one thing she herself (Jessica) did wrong. Literally saying she still has no idea what she did wrong — come on! She still only sees herself.

      • osito says:

        Thank you, Elizabeth. Yeah, the “both sides” and the “I would just ignore it” is so *dismissive* on one hand and tone-policing on the other. It feels like people have already forgotten how traumatic the events of this Spring/Summer were, especially for the global population of black peoples living in places where our racial/ethnic identities make us targets for violence.

      • Janice Hill says:

        As an American, I look at how much LESS racist Canadian culture is, especially in Toronto, where I’ve visited regularly for 25 years. So I don’t see it the same way as you. I’m just looking at what is said in these texts back and forth. Sasha’s texts come across as aggressive to me. I would be disturbed by them if they were sent to me. Jessica handled it really badly, of course, and she came across as tone deaf. And I agree with a lot of the responders who say they think something came before these texts. They come across like they came out of the blue, and that doesn’t make sense to me.

      • osito says:

        Hi Janice. Toronto sounds like a wonderful place, and I haven’t been lucky enough to visit there yet. I do know my fair share of Canadians from when I lived up north, and I’m aware that anti-black racism does exist in Canada. Someone even made a film about it and wrote about it for the CBC.

        Please believe black people (like Sasha Exeter, even though she is not perfect and you may not like her or anything she’s ever done) when they tell you they have experienced racism firsthand. Thank you.

      • Jaded says:

        @Janice – Canada has it’s racism problems too, it’s just a bit more veiled. What white Canadians did with its First Nations peoples, and continues to do, is absolutely reprehensible. For example, in the late 1800’s and into the mid-1900’s native children were routinely forced into a residential school system created for the purpose of removing them from the influence of their own language and culture, and assimilating them into the dominant white culture, “to kill the Indian in them.” Racism against Caribbean and East Indian immigration in the seventies and eighties resulted in the “ghettoization” of these cultures, and having lived and worked through those decades, I remember the insults against them, the lack of job opportunities and the segregated neighbourhoods very well.

        We here in Canada are doing a better job now of assimilating and accepting other races/cultures than America, but are by no means guiltless. During the Syrian refugee crisis there were many Canadians who vehemently opposed accepting refugees here because they thought they were all terrorists and only wanted to come to Canada to reap the medical and educational benefits. Most Canadians didn’t realize that Syria, despite being mostly Sunni Muslim, has a diverse Christian population as well.

        Canada still has a long way to go to become the ideal multi-cultural society.

      • Nic919 says:

        Excellent comment. Saying both are to blame equally is offensive because that is not the case.

        Also Canada is very racist and any non white person will tell you that. Perhaps the n word isn’t tossed out with the same frequency, but it’s always been there.

        Checkout Desmond Cole or Andray Domise and they can provide some education about racism in Canada. (That’s just a few examples there are more).

  40. Evilbun says:

    @OSITO I agree with what you’ve said. The racism and microaggressions Sasha faced and is facing were awful.
    Something that didn’t sit right with me was, that wasn’t the end of it. Jessicas husband, and less justifiably, meghan were brought into it. Sasha went on to give speaking rights to mexit trolls under the posts, responding to them and agreeing with them. And shut down/deleted people calling out her dragging Meghan into this. I am sure she already knows Meghan receives horrific racism for doing f*ck all.
    It didn’t sit right with me, but I am not too hung up on Sasha’s doing so. Whatever. Sasha was and is a victim here, and I don’t need to police her reactions.
    But then, Sasha’s experience was , for the lack of a better word, used for tv politics. Her aunt and people who supported her, went on to absolve Lainey, who they like, of her racism in the same breath they condemned others. That very much didn’t sit right with me.
    The latter wasn’t necessarily Sasha’s fault. But people associating with sasha benefited from her victimhood here, even if they had vile histories of racism like Lainey. It conveniently led to a coworker they dislike, Ben, losing a talk show position. And this was all while condoning further trolling of a woman who receives some of the vilest racism from around the world that I have seen in recent years

    • osito says:

      Well, you’ve pointed out yourself that there are lots of separate issues at play here. I think the focus should remain on the problems that are linked to more damaging societal/cultural issues, rather than what seems to be happening which is that because Exeter was not “perfect,” Mulroney’s behavior doesn’t demand scrutiny. Essentially, people keep saying, “Well, if what I’m doing isn’t good enough for *them*, they can shove it,” over and over again. That’s terrifying.

      As for Exeter giving platforms to Megan’s haters, I’ll take your word for it. There are definitely lots of other issues that I’m missing as a non-Canadian. But I think it’s really important to parse this new article in the context of: “Is Mulroney squirming out of accountability for her behavior by demonizing a black woman? Yes/No.”

  41. Sunnyvale says:

    Jessica had too much time on her hands!! Why respond to random dms from nobodies demanding things. She dug her own grave there. Still I’m glad she waited to release this. I knew that sasha was egging her for a reaction and the messages hinted her threatening to talk to daily mail and slandering her so I understand now why she went berserk!
    I wonder what their ex friend lainey feels now🤔

  42. Nev says:

    fun fact!!!!
    I see her husband every morning on the way to work! He’s in the studio at CITYTV and the window is open as my streetcar passes.
    First I think ummmm one degree from THE DUCHESS!!!!
    Then I think oh please enough. Sit down.

  43. sara says:

    Both these women, the white one and the black one, are full of themselves and making mountains out of molehills and should just shut up already.

    • MaryContrary says:

      Apparently Sasha hasn’t commented at all about this since last summer when it went down. Jessica is the one dragging it back up. She needs to shut it.

  44. M Narang says:

    Canadian media is tiny and this controversy increased Sasha’s exposure exponentially. Before this happened, most people who don’t live in the Toronto region, wouldn’t have had a clue who Sasha is. Most people know who Jessica Mulroney is however so in many ways it was the absolute perfect storm. The only part that always gives me pause is why Sasha was so blissfully happy, after this happened, to interact with her all her new IG followers who openly hate Meghan Markle.

  45. Tiffany says:

    People on this site really know how to tell on themselves. Y’all are looking for any excuse or reason to say this was Sasha’s fault and she should have stayed in her lane and taken whatever Jessica was dishing out.

    It is amazing that when its BIPOC women, dignity only matters to some of y’all when they decide to stand up for themselves against white people.

    • Sofia says:

      I would understand defending Jessica if she had continuously apologised or show some remorse but she hasn’t. She continues to want to “prove” Sasha was totally wrong and she was totally right.

    • BnLurkN4eva says:

      I think this particular conversation is much more nuanced than you are allowing. Jessica is not being defended, certainly not by me. I was going to go on to say much more, but I’ve said enough in this post. At the end of the day, I acknowledge that Sasha giving Meghan haters space to bash Meghan on her site colors my opinion of her and there’s my blind spot.

      • CC2 says:

        It’s definitely more nuanced. Sasha looked like she was setting Jessica up by saying she’ll go public+ that message about news outlets contacting her.

        While it doesn’t change the fact that Jessica took the bait and responded harshly, Sasha deserves criticism about the set up+how she framed it later on. I don’t see how talking about Sasha distracts from Jessica if we acknowledge that both things are true, even if both things aren’t on the same level

  46. Janice Hill says:

    I’m a vocal supporter of BLM, but if Sasha told me I should be talking only about BLM and that what I do isn’t enough, I would take exception. Jessica did jump at the bait, but Sasha had no right to dictate. Suggest, ask, encourage, yes. But demand, no. I’d say the same thing if the races were reversed. But the threats on both sides showed both of them behaving badly. That said, I’d like to see the full conversation, too.

    • Maria says:

      As others have said repeatedly, Sasha does not need to be a perfect person for it to be obvious that Jessica tried to weaponize institutionalized racism against her.

      • Janice Hill says:

        You’ll get no argument from me on that point. As I said, Jessica jumped at the bait and behaved badly.

      • Cheezypuff says:

        Admitting I might not have all the facts, so please take this as a real question. What was racist about the exchange? Did she say something outright racist or is this about the entitlement?

      • Maria says:

        First – Jessica being threatened in the first place by being asked to speak on racial issues.
        Second – dictating to Sasha what is the best method for fighting racism in the first place.
        Third – telling Sasha her voice “does not matter” (disenfranchising Black women) unless she speaks “kindly” (tone policing).
        Fourth – threatening her livelihood by threatening to go to her sponsors (as the daughter of a former PM, there is no way in the world Jessica has less clout than Sasha).
        Fifth- the idea that Sasha’s “aggressiveness” (angry Black woman trope) is to blame for this episode rather than Jessica’s reactions.

        Dogwhistles, microaggressions, threats. All aspects of institutionalized racism at play.

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  47. Saray P says:

    Jessica suffers from this constant need to respond, respond, respond, even on occasions when it’s not worth it to do so.

    In this age of media, if the folks who report on you don’t like you then no matter what you say it’s going to be spun wrong. I have no idea how this whole incident started and the article on the National Post is clearly biased BUT if anyone came to me like Sasha did, I would have been like “Thanks for letting me know” and kept it moving if I wasn’t really interested in doing the work publicly. I am not going back and forth with anyone where my content can be preserved for future use. If you wanna give me advice, call me. It’s pretty obvious that Jessica wasn’t willing to do the real work but didn’t want to be called out.

    I also feel like something was left off and who knows because I don’t know Sasha, but can’t see two women who don’t know each other that well having this much back and forth.

    Jessica’s excuse that she was contractually obligated was just that an excuse, you can be obligated to post something and yet simultaneously while things are going on in the world, comment about it if you want to. I follow her on IG and I remember thinking all of this racial unrest and awakening is going on in the world and this chick seems tone deaf. I actually expected her to be called out by her followers so I wasn’t surprised that she was caught up in something but was surprised at how it went down.

    To me, even if she thinks that she’s not in the wrong, save face, apologize, promise to do better and then move on. I have no idea how Canada handles things like this because in America, just taking time off and everyone’s short term memory makes everyone forget past scandals (not to mention we had a previous sucky president). If she was based here, she could have taken off until 2021 and when she came back folks would have been like what did she do again? Again, not sure how Canada rolls with situations such as this.

    • Jaded says:

      I’m Canadian so I’ll weigh in on your question. Because of Jessica’s family ties to a former Prime Minister and being in the “1%” strata of rich white elites, I think Canadians who are familiar with this debacle see her “poor victim” persona as disingenuous. The mere fact that she had a columnist who is notorious for her pro-Israeli/anti-Palestinian/Trump-loving journalism write this article exonerating Jessica and blaming Sasha says it all. By publishing this article in the National Post many months after the fact, it’s only prolonging an ugly dialogue that should have been quietly worked out long ago. This is a situation where both women lost focus and took things to a personal level instead of seeing it from a higher perspective, taking the time to examine their emotions and reactions, and responding rather than reacting defensively.

  48. Dion says:

    Her wardrobe makes me feel sick. She’s a stylist?

  49. HeyJude says:

    I’m days late to this article, but wanted to say the fact that Jessica Mulroney with all her stature, high society she’s part of- so plenty of other things to do & focus on, is STILL harping on this over half a year later makes her look batshit unstable. (And guilty as hell.)

    Her fixation on this is like a disturbed person and really tells us all we need to know about her character.

  50. Shawna says:

    Sounds like Sasha has a very good reason to tell her side of the story now. But it seems she’s too classy to take the opportunity.

    In this *version* of events, it *sounds* like Sasha threatens first to “tell on” Jessica. But this isn’t the full story. Jessica’s overreaction seems like a classic “thou dost protest too much.” She knew she could do more for BLM and attacks Sasha instead of facing her own limitations.