Prince Charles & William’s relationship has gotten better post-Sussexit, big surprise

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With the influx of royal stories over the weekend, I kind of missed this Emily Andrews piece at the Daily Mail about how the Prince of Wales’ relationship with Prince William has changed over the past year or so. William and Charles used to be quite tricky with each other, with William stomping around and throwing tantrums and Charles just… letting it happen. But William basically made his father choose between his sons, and Charles chose William. That’s how I felt last year, and I still feel that way – that William forced the Queen and Charles to make a choice about whose “side” they would take, his or Harry’s, and both of them chose Workshy Will, the future intemperate king. So now we’re being gifted with some regularity about how William and Charles’ relationship has improved since the Sussexit Ultimatum. You can read Andrews’ full piece here. Some highlights:

Why William & Charles got closer: The fallout from Prince Andrew’s disastrous interview on BBC2’s Newsnight in late 2019 about his friendship with the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, and Harry and Meghan’s decision to quit The Firm, have meant that Charles and William have come together to work with a common purpose. They seek each other’s counsel and, significantly, Charles consults his son rather than imposing his own opinions. As one aide says: ‘He’s giving William much more input. He realises that his own reign will be a shorter one than his son’s, and therefore it is crucial that William is involved in all long-term planning. They have been spending more time together and are much more aligned. Both are more comfortable in their own skin – and with each other.’

William’s focus on his own rose bushes: In his early days as a married man, William, now 38, preferred to focus on his own life in Norfolk rather than spend time with his father, who lives four hours away in Gloucestershire. Some interpreted this as a froideur between William’s court and that of Charles. Indeed, two years ago, when William was asked to appear in a TV documentary celebrating his father’s work for the Duchy of Cornwall (a responsibility that, one day, will be his), an aide tartly retorted that the Duke of Cambridge was ‘not doing anything more for his father’. That comment suggested a rivalry between the two households.

William thinks Charles uses him & his kids: There was talk, too, that William felt piqued that his father sometimes ‘used’ his son’s popularity, and that of his wife and three young children, to burnish his own image. William was particularly sensitive as he himself is reluctant to use his children (George, now seven, Charlotte, five, and Louis, two) as ‘props’. There were occasions when William made known his displeasure – such as when Charles, 72, issued an official photo of himself in which framed, private, pictures of his grandchildren could be seen in the background. For William guards their privacy like a lion protects his pride. Similarly, he was concerned when Charles’s aides revealed to the media that his gardens at Highgrove had been turned into a ‘toddler’s paradise’ for the then two-year-old George, with a specially refurbished treehouse.

William’s temper: One former member of the household said: ‘William has quite a temper and could fly off the handle at the slightest thing. His father was wary of making matters worse.’ Yet William is much more secure in his role as Prince of Wales-in-waiting. As a father-of-three and nearing his fifth decade, he is more patient and understanding. Consulted much more by his father, he has immersed himself in the workings of the Duchy of Cornwall, which funds the public, charitable and private activities of the Prince of Wales and extends across 23 counties in England and Wales.

The Sussexit: A key factor in the two men’s maturing relationship, of course, has been Harry’s move to California. Charles’s initial inclination was to try to make a half-in/ half-out Royal role work for Harry and Meghan. But ultimately he united with William and the Queen, who, at the so-called Sandringham Summit to discuss the crisis in January last year, told the Sussexes that a hybrid option would not work.

Kate was keen: Kate, 39, has also been instrumental in fostering the father/son relationship. Organising Charles’s family portrait for his 70th birthday with Harry and William, who had fallen out spectacularly, did not prove easy. She helped make it happen and ensured that all the children synchronised smiles for the camera. She has also encouraged Charles to visit their home, Anmer Hall. This is helped by the fact he is spending more time at Sandringham running the estate, which was once the preserve of his 99-year-old father.

[From The Daily Mail]

Most of this is just repackaged stuff we already knew and had heard before, that Charles and William always had a tricky relationship, that William never wanted to give his dad the time of day until Will realized how close Charles was getting to Harry and Meghan. William was the one who largely organized Harry and Meghan’s shunning and exile, with the gleeful help of many courtiers from Buckingham Palace and Clarence House courts. And now William is the last bloke standing, having forced his more charismatic brother out of the country. That being said, this story reads like Clarence House’s version of events, not Kensington Palace’s. This is Charles dictating the narrative, not William.

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  1. Izzy says:

    I am at a complete loss to explain why they think this makes them look good.

    • Becks1 says:

      And yet they keep beating this drum – now that Harry is gone with his pesky american wife, William has the spotlight all to himself so hes much nicer to his father and all is well in the UK.

      Its really not a good look for Charles or for William.

      Interesting though that we have this story on the heels of the Middleton story though, isnt it?

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        Indeed – all it does is show that Willileaks and Chuck still have a rocky relationship and giving William what he wanted (with regards to the Sussex’s) has not made William any nicer toward Charles. Charles has always appeased William and William one way or another always gets what he wants. Not a very healthy relationship.

        William uses the Middletons as a stick to beat his father and grandmother with, it’s a ‘this is the family you can never be’, pity he can’t see that the Middletons are just as dysfunctional as the RF.

        If William makes it to the throne, it will all end in tears.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “William has the spotlight all to himself so hes much nicer to his father and all is well in the UK.”

        Well all may be well now in the Royal PR Game as RONA COVID has put a halt to Bread-and-Butter engagements. What is going to happen when all the restrictions on crowd gathering have been lifted and ‘the villagers” request a Royal at their first annual fete in three years or want a Royal to hand out the graduation diplomas at the first local elementary school graduation ceremony in three years? These villagers are the taxpayers who do not seem to mind paying for the Royals. Will all this change when they cannot get a Royal to attend their annual village functions? Zooming in these types of matters will not suffice. Princess Anne and the Countess of Wessex cannot do all the heavy lifting required to keep all as it should be in Royal loving English Villages and rural countryside.

      • All I can say is, they deserve each other and hope Karma is a bitch to both of them.

    • Maliksmama says:

      Me too. Do they have focus groups reading this stuff and telling them it’s good to publish? This makes zero sense.

    • Rare0217 says:

      Same

  2. S808 says:

    ‘William has quite a temper and could fly off the handle at the slightest thing. His father was wary of making matters worse.’ Charles is scared of his own child. It’s pathetic. William is all he’s got left on the team though and it’s what he deserves.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      The pettiest, insular men of the RF. One is an aged, self centred, unfeeling ass and the other a petulant, incandescent rage monster. They deserve each other.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      This is not new information, he’s been like this since he was a child.

      Everyone in the family avoids confrontation and William uses that for his own ends.

      The question is what is William so angry about? I think he’s angry at his life as the heir and that he can’t live his life as he pleases. He does NOT want to be King and am not convinced he will be.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        William is angry that he cannot live a life free of restrictions, responsibilities and entailed estate duties like his childhood friends the van Straubenzees and the van Cutsems. (FYI: The Straubenzees and Cutsems are not bad people)

        William wants to be a mega wealthy non-titled aristocrat with no public or estate responsibilities. Can anyone imagine William doing the the “Public” work of the Marquess of Cholmondeley, the Marquess of Bute, the Marquess of Bath, the Duke of Northumberland, the Duke of Richmond, the Duke of Roxburghe or the late Deborah, Duchess of Devonshire? William has publicly stated that he wants no part of The Princess Trust and probably wants no part of The Duchy of Cornwall except to receive the annual payments of profit proceeds.

        Does anyone ever imagine PwBT working as hard as Charles, Philip or The Queen Mother?

      • Amy Too says:

        I’m actually a little worried for Kate and the kids when it comes to William and his rages. He rages at his dad, he rages at Harry, he rages at staff, he rages at courtiers, he rages at the press, he rages at tabloid stories, and he used to rage at his mom so we know it’s not just men he rages at. Why would he suddenly be able to keep his temper under control when it comes to Kate and the kids? Especially since home is where people are most comfortable being themselves for better or worse? There has to be a reason why she not only looks super awkward around him, but actually acts scared sometimes, to the point where it affects her performance and she’s much worse during their couple engagements as opposed to her solo ones.

        I’m remembering shrug-gate when he tried to touch her during the Mary Berry Christmas special thing and I’m wondering if she instinctively flinched when he touched her not because she was mad at him and grossed out that he’s a cheater, but maybe because she’s scared of him?

        People are wondering if this, and other stories like it, could be Middleton PR and now I’m wondering if “William is an incandescent rage monster” is something that they’re putting out there often and emphasizing just in case Will ever wants to try to break up with and trash Kate. They would have years worth of stories about his horrible temper to point to in order to spin it like maybe Will dumped Kate in a fit of anger and not because of anything she did wrong. They could also definitely get some sympathy for Kate if they go with the William is a rage monster she was trying to placate all these years route.

    • Mac says:

      The BRF is so tone deaf. If anyone thinks this is good PR, they need a new job.

    • Nic919 says:

      I had to check that this was actually from the article and not commentary from Kaiser. It is mind boggling that reminding people how petulant William can be is included in what is supposed to be a positive PR article.

  3. Becks1 says:

    This is the kind of article that doesnt actually say what its trying to say, in my opinion.

    So in this we have confirmation, yet again, of William’s notorious temper, that William thinks Charles uses him and his kids for PR, that there is a rivalry between their two households, etc. It then tries to smooth all that over but Andrews is certainly making a point of rehashing all the negative stuff, isnt she?

    The part about William having a shorter reign than Charles is kind of weird though. In true Windsor fashion, Charles could live another 30 years, and have a 25 year reign as monarch, and then William would probably be king for about the same time – 25 or 30 years (thinking if Charles becomes king within 5 years, and lives to 100 or so, that gives him a 25 year reign, and will put William close to 70 when he becomes king). so maybe under that thinking William would have 30 years as king while Charles has 25 – thats not a significant difference. Its not like Charles is going to become king and then die a year later, giving William a 40 year reign. (I mean its certainly possible, but it seems weird that this article seems to be banking on it almost, right?)

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Every once in a while, we have ass covering PR fluff pieces like this. Our common enemy has been pushed out hurrah! Aren’t we clever to have done that and to get the tabloids to report on it too? However, yes while we may appear to be close for now, it’s only to keep up appearances as I know as soon as one of us needs great press, I will throw you and your household under the bus with no hesitation.

    • Jay says:

      @Becks1 yeah, that detail about Charles “short reign” doesn’t jive for me with me – doesn’t he usually push back on people who want to “promote” William to the throne?

      Mind you, it’s also weird if it comes from William: “Hey dad, so you know how when you kick it I’m gonna be king? I’ve been thinking about that a lot lately. Like a LOT, believe me. Since I’ve not bothered to prepare myself for my only role in any way, maybe you should be showing me the ropes before your pending demise? Xoxo Wills

  4. Snuffles says:

    This is what I got

    “I’m terrified of my moody, verbally abusive son, but ever since he drove out the son I actually like and respect, I am stuck with him and will “carry on” like the emotionally repressed Aristocrat that I am. I mean, as Mummy keeps reminding me, William is the heir after all.”

    • Sojaschnitzel says:

      Perfect summary.

    • Harper says:

      I can totally hear this said in the comic voice of the actor who plays Charles on The Windsors.

    • MyOpinion says:

      @ Snuffles, this 1000%! Isn’t it always the fact that PWT takes issue with his father and keeps his children away from their grandfather to punish him? PWT takes his cues from an emotional abuser to the ninth degree. Father makes me mad, cut him off from seeing his grandchildren. Father uses my children for his own PR, lash out verbally as I berate my father in a unending screaming temper tantrum. Use these previous insults against my father as I am more superior than him and make sure he knows it as I belittle him and use a guilt trip and pout unless he chooses ME over Harry. Repeat until I am king.

      • Amy Too says:

        And then to claim that William is all about protecting his kids’ privacy and not using them as props? And the examples stated of Charles using them as props was having pictures of them in his study and mentioning that he has a treehouse built for his grandson.

        Whereas Will is taking all of his kids out on multiple PR events every time he or Kate screws up, which has been about 10 times in the past year. New photos, constant interviews about the kids and parenting and who is “cheeky” and who is “a little king in the making” and “so serious,” and what Louis’s first word was (Mary Berry, supposedly), using his kids to promote someone else’s Netflix project, bringing the kids to their own engagements like the garden, bringing the kids to what is meant to be an event for other children (the pantomime). It is incessant. They use their kids as props for PR all the time. Charles was talking about the changes he had made to his own garden to accommodate his changing family and not thinking about “staging” his video calls down to every single last detail.

      • Ann says:

        I think it’s pretty ridiculous for him to get mad because Charles had pictures of his grandchildren in view for an interview or whatever. So what? That doesn’t strike me as exploitation. A little staged, sure, but not exploitative. They’re his grandkids!

    • ➕💯, Snuffles.

  5. Liz version 700 says:

    This family is so so damaged. They all deserve to be together making each other miserable. If I were Harry I would never go back. Not for a visit, not for a day.

    • Over it says:

      I am in complete agreement with you. Harry please save yourself and your beautiful wife and son. May the rest of the, rot in the hell they have created.

  6. Maliksmama says:

    What did Elizabeth and Phillip do to Charles!?

    Anne’s kids don’t appear to be at each other’s throats. They are so supportive of each other. Maybe because they’re sister and brother?

    Andrew’s daughters are devoted to each other.

    Edward’s kids are still kids. They’re always out of the spotlight.

    What happened to Charles? Is he so weak of a parent that he would allow one kid to push the other out of the nest?

    The more that’s revealed about William, the more I’m convinced he has a mental issue.

    • molly says:

      Elizabeth and Philip were absent and dismissive of his personality at best. It’s no wonder he went into marriage (with a teenage stranger!) a mess. Diana was her own brand of mess. Then they drug their children into their collective mess. William is not the least bit surprising to me. I hope Harry gets out and stays out.

      • Tessa says:

        Diana was no mess, she unfortunately got romantic ideas about Charles who was marrying her to get heirs. It’s Charles fault not his parents. Charles never takes responsibility for his own actions.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Charles did have awful unfeeling parents but that does not excuse his just being a shit dad to his own two motherless sons. Psychologists will have a field day unravelling the mess he made of his family life.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      The Queen and Phillip have a lot to answer for with Chuck but a lot of the damage was done by the Queen Mother – who treated him like a special little prince because he was the heir.

      Given the stories of Williams behaviour when he was a child makes me think his issues are much more than depression, anxiety etc.. particularly with that family’s documented history of behavioural issues in ancestors (recent and distant).

      • BayTampaBay says:

        It must have been difficult for William, who has been told all his life he is special, to wake-up that one day, approaching middle age having lost his looks, realizing he really is not anything special and is incapable of doing anything to be special.

      • Ginger says:

        There is a video that I saw of Charles and Harry sitting in the grass and William was behind Charles. They were getting their picture taken. William was hitting Charles in the back of the head with his elbow repeatedly and Charles just let him. Harry was well behaved. William comes off as such a bratty, horrible kid. And now he is a bratty and horrible adult.

      • Tessa says:

        I agree. The Queen Mum spoiled Charles and enabled his sense of entitlement and blaming others. Mountbatten being his mentor did not help matters either. Charles felt himself IMO the center of the Universe.

    • ArtHistorian says:

      The family dynamic of the Windsors/Saxe-Coburg Gothas/Hannover have always been a mess. We’re talking about centuries of dysfunction that gets a new twist with every generation. Especially the Monarch/Heir dynamic has been toxic for centuries (I do think that Liz and her father was an exception). But the toxic Heir/Spare dynamic seems to originate with the Liz’s parents. Harry is actually breaking the cycle by leaving the family.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “But the toxic Heir/Spare dynamic seems to originate with the Liz’s parents.”

        I am not so sure I agree with the primary blame on George Vi and Elizabeth. IMHO, I believe that George Vi and Elizabeth fully expected Margaret to make a brilliant match with a foreign prince of very rich titled aristocrat thereby having her own “court” so to speak. The very premature death of George VI was the gamer changer in all of this. This is just food for thought.

        However, I do put blame on the Queen Mum and Dickie Mountbatten for many of Chuck’s personal relationship problems.

      • Nic919 says:

        The Queen Mum was also alive long enough to fuck up William and provide him with a distorted sense of entitlement.

      • Tessa says:

        CHarles and only Charles messed up. The problem was he got enabled by the Queen Mum and Mountbatten. HE is still messing up, by letting William take control.

  7. ABritGuest says:

    Richard Palmer today also suggested that whilst Charles wanted to try half in, half out it was the Queen who said no. So interesting another reporter suggesting Harry’s complete exit from royal duties wasn’t what Charles wanted.

    Both vanity fair and the Torygraph had this story about the new closeness of Charles& William last summer. Although I notice this rehash has added detail of Kate the Great as the instrumental peacemaker. Very similar to those 2018 or 2019 stories of Meghan helping to bring Harry& Charles closer. They really just repeat their stories. Seems such an easy gig is being a royal reporter or expert

    • Snuffles says:

      Because Harry and Meghan factored significantly in Charles’ King plans. He had a team in mind that included them (probably doing the bulk of the work and letting others take credit for it).

      At least Charles understood what valuable assets both of them were. But he let Will’s uncontrollable jealousy and the Queen’s rigidity win out.

      • equality says:

        I wonder if he didn’t want H to take over some of his charities like the Prince’s Trust since W seems uninterested.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Of course Chuck did not want the Sussexes to exit stage-left.

      IMHO, Charles new exactly what he had in Meghan & Harry especially in regards to his plans for/with the Commonwealth when he ascends the throne.

      • Snuffles says:

        Mark my words, within a year of the Queen’s death all black and brown Commonwealth countries will begin divesting themselves from England.

      • Chris. says:

        William is going to regret it, because he will, from now on, always live under the Sussex’ shadow. The powerful royal couple SB is going to upstage this entire little island. Nobody cares about Will and wife !

      • BayTampaBay says:

        SB=????

  8. Amy Bee says:

    All I got from this is Charles chose to side William over Harry and Meghan and William got all that he wanted in the Sandringham summit. I don’t see how the Royal Family could still believe that Harry comes back to the UK for any family gathering.

  9. Myra says:

    By this I’m sure they mean that CH office/courtiers have improved their communication and collaboration with KP. I won’t be surprised to learn that the state of their relationship is just the same as before.

  10. Jegede says:

    I disagree that this looks like Clarence House..

    I read the piece in full, and it portrays William and Kate as strong, powerful and conciliatory.

    While Charles’ is a relic, who ‘some’ have suggested -🙄- should step aside for his son.

    • equality says:

      I agree. The “Will is reluctant to use his children as props” was hilarious. And when has Charles used them? Most parents would be thrilled if a grandparent made a play area for their child. Isn’t Kate the one who wants the children to get outside? It’s also more Kate embiggening. She made Charles’ BD portrait happen? Also where it implies the Queen and Will got their way and Charles got over-ridden in wanting Harry to be allowed half-in. It’s kind of like Will’s victory brag here at being the only son left. I don’t buy that they are closer or that Charles drops in at Anmer.

      • Eating Popcorn says:

        Yes – I don’t recall Charles using his children as props, but I think Diana did – full-on weaponized them against Charles

      • Amy Too says:

        Also, it’s a f-ing pandemic. No one is “dropping in” for visits. Especially not dropping in for visits at Anmer because they’re already in the neighborhood “dropping in” at Sandringham. We’ve been pandemic-ing for a year. Staying home, not visiting friends and family, various levels of never leaving your own house quarantining, and various levels of not traveling outside your own city restrictions.

        It’s like these RRs just completely live in a fantasy land where since they’re making up the headline, they might as well make up a bunch of stupid details that can’t even be true on any level. I really get the idea that the royal rota thinks about the RF as fictional characters in a series of short stories they’re writing, so they’re not proof reading their articles for the basic background world facts that would ground the story in the real world right now. Meghan had a British passport and British citizen documents because that’s convenient for the story in RR fantasy land. Charles is hanging out with Kate because there’s no pandemic in RR Fantasy land. There’s actually a lot of “no pandemic fantasy land stuff: Harry and Meghan are going to fly in for two days for the one year review and then turn around and go home because there’s apparently no such thing as quarantining either way, Harry and Meghan are going to come home for Christmas, Harry isn’t coming for Kate’s birthday not because there’s a pandemic and it’s not safe or even legal in some cases to travel but simply because he doesn’t want to see his brother, Kate is getting in person Queen lessons from the Queen, Will is getting monarch lessons in person from Betty.

      • Tessa says:

        Eating Popcorn, Charles used his sons in the Camilla acceptance campaign. I remember how he had photo ops after Diana died hugging William and Harry in front of cameras to show what a great dad he is then less than a year after Diana died there was a full on campaign and Charles was not above using William and Harry in the Camilla Campaign. The BBC had a documentary that was pulled that talked about William resenting being used in the Camilla campaign. I don’t think Diana weaponized the boys, she just spent more time with them because Charles first priority was Camilla. He even communicated with his sons by Fax at one point. Both Diana and Charles though were more judicious about issuing photographs of the children. I don’t recall the children being coached like child actors to promote a documentary of an acquaintance Of Charles and Diana. The Cambridges trot out their children a whole lot more.

    • Betsy says:

      Yeah, this sounds more like KP/Carol to me, with a soupçon of the royal reporters who know more of the truth (William’s temper) than they’re allowed to officially say.

      I don’t think William and Charles’s relationship is any better, I think William feels temporarily and partially mollified that his brother, his direct competition in his mind, is gone, and is probably being slightly less horrible to his father/his father now realizes that William is who he is. I do believe that William possibly legitimately mentally ill/has a personality disorder. He could just be terrible, but look at (or don’t) the former White House occupant. He’s not just terrible, he has a personality disorder (or a few, honestly).

  11. Murphy says:

    “entering his fifth decade”

    Oof. The shade. William deserves it though.

  12. Kyliegirl says:

    Articles like this relay the passive aggressive nature of the relationship between the media and the Queen and heirs. Unlike other members of the royal family they won’t (can’t?) go after QE2, Charles, William and fam so they do these articles that seem like they are praising them, but make them look like immature, power hungry asshats. Charles is weak, but wants the power, William has rage issues and power hungry, and then Kate is so instrumental… because the kids wouldn’t smile without her and she invites her FIL round for tea. The photo they use is just so awkward and both Charles and William look terrible. They can try all they want to reframe the family, but all the work they did to create the Queen as the loving Granny and one big happy family has come apart. It was coming apart long before H&M left. You could say this started when the Cambridge kids were born and W&K preferring the ease of the Midds vs the coldness and formality of the royals. I think Charles backed the wrong son. William may no longer be able to put his arm around his brother, but the one consistent theme in all articles has been William’s temper. Maybe he is the brother that needs an arm wrapped around him? All is not well in Court Cambridge.

    • L84Tea says:

      William seems to be the common denominator in about 95% of all the issues involving H&M. I know that some of it is the queen and some is Charles, and of course a lot of it is Kate, but I believe William is the largest one at the dirty, infected root of it all.

  13. SarahCS says:

    Wow, it’s super easy to fill your BRF bingo card with this article.

    Mention H&M in the same breath and paedo Andy & Epstein – check

    Claim Willy would never use his kids as props (HA) – check

    Willy flying off the handle – check

    You get the idea. Yawn. The only thing it has going for it is passive aggressively or unwittingly reminding us how awful these people are as basic human beings, never mind our ‘betters’ destined to rule us.

  14. MaryContrary says:

    I’m laughing that William has gotten angry over his father wanting to use the 3 kids as props. Hello-William and Kate do that all the time.

    • Over it says:

      F—-ing 100 percent fact

    • Snuffles says:

      Will wanted to make it crystal clear to Charles that only HE can decide if and when his children can be used as props. Which, as we all know has ramped up immensely in the past year.

    • Ann says:

      I think it’s pretty ridiculous for him to get mad because Charles had pictures of his grandchildren in view for an interview or whatever. So what? That doesn’t strike me as exploitation. A little staged, sure, but not exploitative. They’re his grandkids! William should be happy he wants their pictures there.

  15. Lizzie says:

    It sounds like they realize they need to work together, or at least appear to, nowhere do I see evidence of a better relationship.
    The disfunction in this family has always been evident. But I point to William’s temper as the catalyst for Suxxexit, and his lack of a relationship with his father. It could also be why Kate is at intern level after two decades with him.

  16. CC2 says:

    First thoughts…emphasising the tense relations seem to be a push for people to recognise him as Diana’s son, and not Charles’ son. Right now the general public views Harry as Diana’s, and Will as the Windsors’.

    Second thoughts: William’s rage has got to be the most consistent thing reporters have talked about.

    I find it laughable that William allegedly felt some time of way with the framed pictures. They didn’t mind a freaking calendar of the kids??

    Plus I think William comes across as a bully here. It seems like Charles was a sh*t father, definitely, but Charles is looking more frail by the minute and they still want to play that angle.

    Also the Kate praise is odd. Do we really believe that Kate did all that? Even if we inserted Meghan’s name into that bit..I wouldn’t even believe she planned the whole thing. Kate and probably Meghan too, just got their husbands to show up (i believe Omid said that aides told him that picture was a headache to organise) and not ruin the mood. That’s probably it. The aides probably planned a photo and everyone around them probably pitched in to make the kids smile.

    • Nic919 says:

      Catherine Quinn likely organized it and Kate took credit as usual.

    • Ginger says:

      There is no way Kate organized it. If she did, we would have had an article on how “exhausted” she was by organizing it. An aide probably did most of the work and Kate took credit, as usual.

    • Eating Popcorn says:

      She helped make it happen and ensured that all the children synchronised smiles for the camera. This killed me, it wasn’t the photographer – it St. Kate the Grate! (sic)

    • Ann says:

      I’m sure Charles was a s**t father, but he’s the only father William has. If he wants to continue to have a relationship with him and work with him, he should deal with his Daddy issues. By all means, tell Charles how he feels, come to a reckoning, but don’t let it define you and poison the well forever. What’s done is done. His anger isn’t going to change the past and is only going to make things harder for everyone, himself included. These people need therapy ,

      • Tessa says:

        I don’t like the way Charles is letting Will run rampant. Charles coddles William and more or less threw Harry and Meghan and their child to the wolves.

  17. Snuffles says:

    I know everyone is chomping at the bit for Harry and/or Meghan to do a tell all and go scorched earth on the royal family.

    But really all they have to do is sit back and let them destroy each other. KP, CH and BP are like the royal versions of the Three Stooges or Itchy and Scratchy from The Simpsons. Especially now that their mutually agreed upon scapegoat is out of this picture and won’t hesitate to bitch slap them the moment the put a toe out of line.

  18. Over it says:

    William doesn’t use his children as shields except when he does, choo choo COVID train disaster for 200 please. At least they admitted that all 3 of the, came together to screw Harry over, I hope Harry reads that article and never again Lets any member of that shark pit near his wife and son. I despise all of them with a passion. It’s not right to hate but I truly hate them for all they have done to people of color in the commonwealth and now for all the hate and abuse Meghan, Archie and Harry had to endure

  19. Alexandria says:

    Oh look a bunch of bored racist colonizers got closer. #AbolishTheMonarchy

  20. Jezebel's Lacefront says:

    Two bitches cut from the same cloth get along. News at eleven.

    • Jay says:

      Laughed reallllly hard at this – thanks!

    • Jay says:

      Is this being put out there to compete with the “Carole Middleton is more influential than Charles” narrative from a couple days ago? Or is it all part and parcel of a “poor Charles” narrative?

      Both articles paid a lot of attention to the fact that William chose to live so far away from Charles. If only the royal family had their own helicopter for transport…wait, they do? But it’s not like William is a pilot and could fly it himself if he damn well chose…

      I genuinely cannot tell anymore which side any of these stories are meant to be helpful for, as to me all of them come off pretty terribly.

  21. Size Does Matter says:

    It’s uncanny how much Charles and William physically resemble each other at this point. When he was younger I thought William looked like Diana.

  22. Tessa says:

    William laughing in the wheelchair is so tacky. That family photo seems to shunt Charlotte away from Charles like the males are more Special.

    • Bess says:

      I think the way Charlotte is treated by her father and grandfather is odd. There aren’t any photos of her interacting with Charles and very few of William paying attention to her.

  23. Genevieve says:

    “William was particularly sensitive as he himself is reluctant to use his children (George, now seven, Charlotte, five, and Louis, two) as ‘props’.”

    *laughs for ever and ever*