Palace aides now claim Duchess Meghan *wanted* to be victimized

Pregnant Meghan Markle greets members of the public while leaving the Association of Commonwealth Universities in London

As we discussed, Kensington Palace wants to make it clear that the Duchess of Sussex is a bully. When anyone asks for specifics on what exactly Meghan did or said which was construed as bullying, we get radio silence. My Spidey sense tells me that this is just going to be an asinine repeat of the “Meghan made Kate cry at a pre-wedding fitting” story, a story which no one could pin down until we finally learned – through Tatler – that Kate wept over Meghan’s choice to not force children to wear tights at her wedding. Truly. While we wait to hear just what Meghan said to palace aides – “could you get me a cup of coffee?” or perhaps “can you research this charity and give me a one-page summary with bullet points?” – we are now being regaled with another Times of London exclusive, this one about how everyone bent over backwards to accommodate Meghan and that Meg was desperate to see herself as a victim.

In court papers for her successful privacy action against The Mail on Sunday, her lawyers said that when she was distressed by the negative stories in the media about her, her friends felt frustrated by the instruction from the palace communications team that they should respond “no comment” to allegations. That left her friends “rightly concerned for her welfare, specifically as she was pregnant, unprotected by the institution and prohibited from defending herself”, they said.

An alternative view, sources say, is that Meghan craved rejection from the moment she walked into Kensington Palace, and that nothing that anyone did would ever be good enough.

The palace knew that when Harry married a woman who was biracial, American and divorced, they had to go out of their way to make sure the marriage was a success: if it was not, the royal household and their supposedly hidebound ways would be blamed. “Everyone knew that the institution would be judged by her happiness,” a source said. “The mistake they made was thinking she wanted to be happy. She wanted to be rejected because she was obsessed with that narrative from day one.”

Lawyers for the duchess said this was entirely wrong. The duchess wished to fit in and be accepted and had left her life in North America to commit herself to her new role.

More than one source has expressed their view about her wanting to be a victim. One claimed: “She wanted to be the victim because then she could convince Harry that it was an unbearable experience and they had no choice but to move to America.” Lawyers for the duke and duchess denied this was true. Supporters of the couple have argued that Harry and Meghan were frustrated in their attempts to live their life in a different way.

Finding Freedom quoted a source close to the prince saying that “nothing could convince Harry that some of the old guard at the palace simply didn’t like Meghan and would stop at nothing to make her life difficult”. In her legal case against The Mail on Sunday, the duchess’s lawyers denied that the couple collaborated with the book. One source claimed that most of the tensions in the household at the time concerned the Sussexes’ relations with the media. “The way I see it, their view of not getting institutional support was that they were not getting permission to blow up the institution’s relationships with the media.” Again, lawyers for the duke and duchess deny this.

One conversation confirmed to The Times seems to reveal how much the palace was prepared to go out of its way to help Meghan. Before the wedding, the couple had a meeting with a senior aide who told them that the palace was doing everything it could to help and there was no need to think she had to take on her role in a particular way, a source said. If she was passionate about the acting world, they could help her to think about finding a role within the film industry.

The source said: “The entire place, because of everything about her, and because of what Harry’s previous girlfriends had been through, was bending over backwards to make sure that every option was open.” They said Meghan thanked them, but said she had no wish to carry on acting. Instead she wanted to concentrate on her humanitarian and philanthropic work, and to support Harry as a member of the royal family.

That might have been that, except of course it wasn’t. Part of the problem, according to the source, was that everyone in the palace was so genteel and civil; too genteel and civil: “When someone decides not to be civil, they have no idea what to do. They were run over by her, and then run over by Harry. They had no idea what to do.”

[From The Times of London]

“If she was passionate about the acting world, they could help her to think about finding a role within the film industry.” Buckingham Palace and the British media has been in crisis mode for the past 14 months largely because Meghan and Harry wanted to earn their own money and work outside of the monarchy. And now the same people who abused them claim that the palace establishment encouraged Meghan to pursue acting jobs? Yeah, no. And this whole “she wanted to be victimized” thing is gaslighting and shockingly vile messaging from Kensington Palace. Pure and simple. We all saw what happened to Meghan from the word go. Harry saw it too and it changed him and it changed the way he saw his family and his country.

Meghan Markle is see leaving the Met Breuer Museum ahead of her baby shower

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  1. Seraphina says:

    Wow, is all I can say. There is no bottom they (Palace, BRF and British Media) aren’t willing to hit when it comes to H&M. That alone speaks volumes as to how terrified they are of H&M.

    • GrnieWnie says:

      Yep. And I love how they say “biracial, American, and divorced” as though these are all things that can be held against her and therefore must be compensated for by making sure the marriage was a success.

      Uhhhh…the marriage still looks like a success—one that the royal family had no obligation to involve themselves in.

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        Not only things that could be held against her, but things perceived – by them – to be known contributors to marital problems. So strange, given the outcome of Charles marrying a virginal, inexperienced English white rose.

        Otherwise, I’d love to have just 10% of the long-term strategic thinking that they attribute to Meghan.

      • GrnieWnie says:

        says it all, right? The mindset is so stuck in the 1950s, as evidenced by the royal fashion, the inane regulations, the overall intensity of the focus on protocol. The UK isn’t the centre of the universe. This isn’t the age of empire. Every other staid European monarchy has managed to modernize in most capacities. Yet here this institution is, headed by a monarch who has outlived any sort of meaningful institutional function and who lives at a distance from the actual state/position of the UK (domestically or within regional/global politics). We’re all supposed to be picking up on the implication that “American,” “biracial,” and “divorced” pose some sort of inherent threat to the institution. Meanwhile, we’re all like IT’S 2021 DID YOU MISS THE ENTIRE INTERNET SINCE 2010 AT A MINIMUM.

      • Mac says:

        The BRF thinks they are still the head of a colonial empire.

    • Myra says:

      I think this is by far their grossest statement. They are so blatantly racist that they are oblivious to how they are coming off.

      • UptownGirl says:

        @ Myra, I agree! This is incredibly difficult to read as it creates a dangerous narrative of Meghan thriving to be the victim?!? How can anyone, yet alone a publication, print such racist, dehumanizing and utterly criminal bullying and call it journalism? How can anyone with a conscious write this? Are there grounds for a lawsuit? This is something I never thought I would hear yet alone read🤬

      • Mac says:

        And they have the gall to call Meghan a bully. Unbelievable.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      They boasted about sending her to Africa. They called her megain, degree wife, the american. But she wanted them to do that. They briefed the press against her and leaked lies, more lies and their plans to the press. But SHE wanted them to do that. That family is fu88d up to the gills.

      • pottymouth pup says:

        yeah, I love that the woman they claimed was a social climber, who married Harry b/c she craved the power & prestige of being royalty also worked hard to tank all that to fulfill her plan by *checks notes* separating from the firm and moving back to LA

    • Yvette says:

      @Seraphina … Agreed! What are the Windsors so afraid Meghan might say in the interview with Oprah, especially (it seems) William?

    • Maida says:

      Yep, this is basically just “she was asking for it.”

      Despicable.

    • ➕💯 on Kaiser and your comments, Seraphina. I couldn’t agree more. Meghan seems to be living through ever version of Dante’s 7 levels of hell. Looks like The Firm is moving her into another level.

      And yes to your comment too, Maida. Victim blaming at its ugliest.

  2. LaraW” says:

    Wow, it’s like they’re trying every racist trope in the book. Wonder what’s next.

    Some kind of bullshit genealogy showing how she’s related to an (insert-color-here) dictator?

    • Tom says:

      In other words, she asked for it.

      Sickening. Truly vomitrocious.

    • Becks1 says:

      It’s really really disgusting. Like @Tom said – this is just another way of saying “she was asking for it.”

      Also, does anyone there realize this doesnt make KP look good? “we had to abuse her and be mean to her, that’s what she wanted, we had no choice!”

      KP overplayed their hand with these Times articles and I’m so glad to see them being called out for it.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      As if we didn’t see the commonwealth service which was in full glare of the public with our own eyes.

      • Yvette says:

        And cattiness by William and Kate, but mostly Kate, is on video as well. There is no way they can ever claim it was ‘taken out of context’ or embellished. If they act that way in front of cameras how bad was it in private? I hope Oprah plays that clip over and over and then ask “WTF?”

      • HeatherC says:

        Obviously she instructed Will and Kate to behave that way and they docilely agreed.

    • LaraW” says:

      I forgot! Slut shaming. Because all black women are promiscuous b*tches, with a side of “she asked for it.” Although I guess that’s already been implied in the whole “is Archie really Harry’s child” thing. But she asked for it! You know? By being a black woman. It’s only natural to scrutinize the TRUE parentage of this so called “son of Harry.” Can’t forget to police a black woman’s body.

      Also- it’s amazing that “she speaks English so well,” for a black person. There’s no way she could have such nice handwriting, since she’s black. Can’t believe she can write in full sentences, let alone paragraphs. How did she REALLY get her job on Suits? How did she even get into university? Mediocre talent, there’s no way she got that role on her merits. How could she even afford to go to a prestigious school? Not that it’s really prestigious, third tier at best.

      I’m just saying that I have a few spots left on my bingo card.

      Also, I can easily imagine these things being said about her at KP. Nothing black women haven’t heard everywhere already.

  3. S808 says:

    “She wanted to be the victim because then she could convince Harry that it was an unbearable experience and they had no choice but to move to America.”

    Wow.

    They sound like the m*gxits trolls. Almost word for word.

    • STRIPE says:

      Agreed. I think also it’s not that she wanted to leave from the start, but that as an American she doesn’t have the same reverence for the BRF because she wasn’t brought up in the British class system – so she is experiencing the BS and instead of thinking “it’s worth it to endure because I’m part of the royal family” she thinks “this is insane and not worth it, there is more to life” because she doesn’t view the BRF as the apex of life.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Also which is it? Is she a gold digging social climber who did everything to marry Harry(so why not stay at all costs) or did she want to drag him away? That pathetic family can’t even get their facts straight.

    • Belli says:

      And before H&M left those same trolls were claiming she’d plotted for years to be a princess, was obsessed with Diana, was a massive gold-digger, couldn’t wait to get her hands on the royal jewels…

      • Lowrider says:

        She was supposed to be desperate for royal status but she was actually desperate for the royals to reject her! LMAO.

    • Bex says:

      M*gxit trolls x palace courtiers = a circle.

    • cassandra says:

      It’s amazing how little agency they give Harry. I believe the Sussexes have an equal partnership, but Harry certainly had more power (money, connections, knowledge of the social structure) in that environment than Meghan did.

  4. Beach Dreams says:

    The sheer depravity in this claim is too much. I cannot believe they are actually fixing their mouths to declare that a black woman wanted to be subjected to constant racism and attacks on her character. They make themselves look completely unhinged (and I think they’ve said/done quite enough to prove that point).

    • Wiglet Watcher says:

      Meg must have been absolutely giddy when the sun printed a cover photo of her and Archie saying “nappy new year!” Another chance to be a victim, right?

      And how kind of William and Kate to assist their sister in law by sending out all this fuel for her fire. And the rest of them and their silence must mean they’re enablers. Wow, such support.

    • Nic919 says:

      I was actually astonished about that paragraph because I don’t think I have ever seen something that despicable in print before. Not from what is supposed to be a legitimate newspaper.

      You couldn’t be more textbook victim blaming with this statement if you tried.

      I want to know who provided that alternative view and for that psychotic asshole to be named.

    • These are the same idiots that claimed she wanted her name removed from Archie’s birth certificate to somehow make Kate look bad. Are they writing this stuff on crack? And I have to say, if this was my brother releasing all this vitriol during pregnancy number 2 —— after what he did during pregnancy number 1 —— and knowing she has suffered a miscarriage—— if I was Harry, I’d be done! If this is truly coming out of KP and Harry gets receipts, I don’t see how he can ever choose to rebuild a relationship with his monster of a brother.

    • sunny says:

      It is wild to witness. I can believe they are so vile, manipulative, and racist but my real question is how are they so dumb?

  5. Naomi says:

    I would laugh at this smear campaign (so obvious, so ham-fisted) if it all weren’t so profoundly evil.

    • Islandgirl says:

      Yup it would be funny. But they have simply shown themselves for who they are and they have revealed exactly what Meghan was dealing with.
      My my William…I expected better from you. You have touted yourself as the bright one and you are surrounded by gold star PR people.

    • Yvette says:

      @Naomi … I’m right there with you. It seems from the beginning the plan was to keep Meghan in the background with her mouth shut. I can’t believe they’re calling Meghan’s willingness to take on the work of a Royal ‘rolling over the Palace aides and courtiers’ who, by the way, said they would ‘find’ an acting job and a place for her out of the Royal limelight. Every woman who marries into the Royal family is expected to be a helpmate to her Royal husband, but the Palace(s) didn’t want that for Meghan. Why? It could have been her past acting career or her status as a divorced woman or her undeniable charisma they knew would outshine Kate, but one can also assume it could have been because she’s black.

      So when (according to the last two paragraphs in the article above) Meghan politely told the aides and courtiers that she wanted to do humanitarian and charity work and came into the marriage expecting to work in/for the Royal family by helping and supporting her husband, and was quite happy to do, they took that as Meghan refusing their instructions and then labeled her ‘pushy’ and ‘difficult’ … the uncouth American. I just don’t get their angst and the fact that The Times is saying this in a way that says “See! See! This woman is pushy and rude and arrogant and doesn’t know her place!” I also don’t get why a lot of British people bought it without ever considering that it might not be true.

      In all fairness, it could have been the aides and courtiers interpreting instructions from the Queen and Charles to find something constructive for Meghan to do as an opportunity to ‘put Meghan in her place.’ “She doesn’t know her place!” was leaked repeatedly by Palace sources after Meghan hit the ground running by finding a couple of patronages by her own initiative and “She’s placing herself above Kate!” So Meghan tried to go through the aides and courtiers with her ideas, which were then either given to Kate or back-burnered until a more appropriate time.

      They’re trying to get it all out there before Meghan unloads on Sunday. This also tells me that they realize their behavior toward and constraints on Meghan could be perceived as ‘wrong.’

  6. Who ARE these people? says:

    “The Crown” has really pulled back the veil and the Palace claims have less believability than before. They don’t seem to understand things have changed. They don’t grasp that royalty isn’t everyone’s idea of the good life.

  7. Snuffles says:

    All I’m getting is that the palace had their own ideas of what kind of work and role Meghan should have. Meghan said, no thanks, THIS is the kind of work I want to do, can you support me on these projects?

    Staff probably informed the Cambridges who were probably terrified that Meghan’s ambitious projects would make them look bad and instructed the staff to block her at every turn until she gave up.

    • Amy Bee says:

      Oh definitely

    • swirlmamad says:

      I’m sure this is exactly what happened.

    • Snazzy says:

      For sure. She came to them with a million ideas and it scared the crap out of them

      • The Recluse says:

        I think that’s a chunk of the friction right there: she came there ready to do her part and they just aren’t up to that speed, you know, hierarchy and tradition and al that rot, so of course they had to undermine that. Plus, I doubt her staff was prepared for that sort of full on let’s get to work activism that Americans tend to have, if they’re motivated.

    • Jay says:

      Yes, it couldn’t be clearer that they never envisioned her taking on meaningful work:

      “There was no need to think she had to take on her role in a particular way, a source said.”

      Translation: Don’t challenge us. Do what we tell you. Stay in your place.

      Also, I remember there was much screeching and rending of garments when it was thought that Meghan might (gasp) continue in her profession and accept acting jobs while a royal, and now they want us to believe that they were going to find her roles? Lololol.

  8. Noki says:

    This is sickening,is there no press complaints commision,what happened to #BeKind we are watching in real time the press trying to damage someone. And shame on Charles what a little Punk.

    • BnLurkN4eva says:

      Charles is the biggest coward I’ve ever witnessed live. Meghan’s father is at least proactive in his selling out of her, bold even. Charles just stays quiet while his child and child’s family is being destroyed. Silent! Silence is complicity, Charles, I hope the crown is worth all of this. First Diana now Harry. Make no mistake Charles this is your legacy and Elizabeth’s too.

  9. Flying Fish says:

    Enough.
    To the British Royal Family, Royal Experts and the British Media, Enough.

    This has got to stop, what happened to Diana, is happening all over again to Meghan, her son and unborn child and Harry, this has got to stop.
    If anything happens to them, the blame should be placed at Elizabeth, Charles, William, Kate, the Royal Expert’s and the British Media’s feet.

    Enough.

    • Nyro says:

      Accidents happen all day everyday, do they not realize that. Meghan could get into a fender bender tomorrow and the first thing everyone will say is that the BRF did it. They better hope no harm comes to that woman, no matter how minor. Harry as well.

  10. Amy Bee says:

    Saying that meghan wanted to be victim tells me she was ill-treated by staff and senior royals. As a black woman going into a white space she would just want to fit in and be part of the team. I suspect that she did complain about the racism etc she was facing and was gaslit at every turn. I’m glad she got out of there.

  11. Osty says:

    So at what point will these creatures in the palace, look back and realise the harm they have caused harry if they don’t care about Meghan. Also when will they realise their need to ” reveal everything, their explaining and complaining ” etc only make them look bad.

  12. Merricat says:

    I hope Harry burns it down to the ground.

  13. Cecilia says:

    I cannot wait for this oprah interview because i seriously want to know what meghan is going to say.

    • Nic919 says:

      I don’t even think they say anything that pointed about the staff, but this reaction suggests they have so much to hide at KP.

  14. Aaliyah says:

    How depraved and vile can they continue to be? I’m honestly shaking with anger right now. They’re actual demons at this point; as a former monarchist, I can happily say now death to the monarchy. If anything happens to Meghan, we’re going to war.

  15. Miranda says:

    I still think it’s bizarre that this is, to some extent, about Harry and Meghan wanting to earn their own money and make their own way in the world. Obviously there’s a fair amount of racism at play as well, but the royals and their sycophants will never admit to that, and have instead railed against an intelligent, compassionate couple who DON’T WANT TO BE PARASITES. That can only be a controversial position if their fear is that one independent couple will make the public realize just how useless the rest of them are. Very telling.

    Also, on a shallow note: Meghan is of course a very beautiful woman to begin with, but she’s also one of those women who wear pregnancy incredibly well. Like, she actually had that glow people always talk about. A couple of friends of mine were pregnant around the same time as Meghan’s first, and they were so jealous.

  16. Desdemona says:

    Yeah, I agree,…

  17. Midnight @theOasis says:

    Wow…I can’t believe what I just read. Meg wanted “to play the victim?” Well, we have an answer to how they viewed and treated her. This kind of messaging may play well in the U.K. (and to the U.S. right wing Maga nuts) but NO, it does not go over well with anyone with half a brain. This is Diana 2.0 all over again. The gaslighting, the bullying. It’s so despicable. And yet, the Fail wants to draw comparisons to Wallis Simpson and not Diana.

    • K.T says:

      It’s absolutely wild that this is an alternate Diana 2.0! The petty Queen and her weak spoilt family thought they found a malleable virgin to sacrifice for their stupid empire of royals. But instead found a charismatic and more popular, glamorous icon that they turned into an adversary. They then gaslit her as crazy, unstable and weak; put spies on her; fought her popularity with press & tabloid slime as part of the evil bargain to maintain un-earned privilege.

      Now they have another glam adversary they created and because of classicism, sexism and racism, they pulling every dirty PR trick to pull her down and make her hated by the public. Especially since she has the gall to be strong and protect her self by speaking up.

  18. Lowrider says:

    LMAO

    This is the hill the courtiers are going to die on?!?

    First, Meghan was desperate to be a princess but no, her plan all along was to be a victim?!? Lmaoooooo

  19. MsIam says:

    “She wanted us to treat her badly, so we did!” says every bully and abuser ever. The palace forgets that they have plenty of dirty on them from how they treated Diana and Fergie. I guess they think everyone else has forgotten too, but we haven’t. And how ironic that Oprah, a woman who has spoken to both of these women first hand is the one who gets to do the interview! She only has to say that she’s heard these types of stories before, she doesn’t need to drop any details. Oh boy!

  20. Midnight @theOasis says:

    Why do I get the feeling that there was a behind the doors meeting between the usual suspects to deliver a coordinated attack against Meghan in advance of the interview. The Fail (who are enraged that the black woman won and they have to pay her), KP and the rest of BM and RRs are going into overdrive to destroy Meghan.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      There definitely was. All the RRs tweeted and retweeted the story at the same time, complete with scripted “this is huge!” commentary. They were in lockstep with KP’s briefing and they made it so painfully obvious.

      • Nic919 says:

        Some were even trying some outreach with Kaiser on Twitter last night. Didn’t work though.

      • Sid says:

        Nic, I recall that many were wondering what that Emily person was plotting when she started following Kaiser on Twitter recently, especially when it’s pretty well-known that Celebitchy is not an anti-Meghan site. I guess now we know what that was about.

  21. Sunday says:

    She WANTED to be rejected? Are you effing kidding me?

    It’s pathetic and evil and disgusting enough that KP is trying this ham-handed, sloppy smear campaign, but that the Times would publish these unsubstantiated claims from people who clearly have a vendetta against Meghan is unfathomably depraved.

    Burn. It. All. Down.

  22. Jane Doe says:

    Harry and Meghan haven’t even said anything yet. These fools are digging themselves an extra deep grave.

  23. Sofia says:

    Like I said in the other post, disgusting doesn’t even begin to cover it

  24. Myra says:

    How would she have been able to marry Harry if she had stayed in the film industry? Why would she need their help to continue acting? Isn’t this admission that they did not want the wedding to go ahead? Phew. Anyway, tell us more palace staff. I’m intrigued.

  25. OriginalLala says:

    wow, they just keep going lower and lower – they must be terrified of the Oprah interview

  26. STRIPE says:

    I wonder if they truly believe they did everything they could for her and are truly confused about all this.

    That family and the business they make up seems so cold, they surely have a totally warped understanding of what welcoming someone is etc.

    I can just see William saying “I said hello to her that one time what more did she want?!” Ha!

  27. Andrew’s Nemesis says:

    Would they say the same thing to me – that I ‘wanted’ to be hit because I stayed in a violent relationship? Because they’re skirting perilously close to that kind of claim.

  28. Harper says:

    She craved being a victim? This is absolutely bonkers that The Times wrote this in today’s culture. I’m ready to award Valentine Low the Dan Wooten Honorary Scumbag Journalist Award for 2021. Doesn’t matter if we are only two months into the year I’m sure no one will be topping these whoppers in the next ten months. It’s like reposting lunch table gossip. I hope Meghan has a spa room in her $14 million Montecito mansion that she can retreat to today and chill out.

  29. ABritGuest says:

    How can they be this bad at this?

    The firm wanted to help her continue acting? I thought we’ve been told since January 2020 that you are either in or out- there’s no half in half out? Unless they were encouraging Harry to step down if he wanted to marry Meghan?

    And nothing says you did everything to support her like silence on negative press, leaking mean nicknames & speculating how long the marriage would last to the press. they are saying she wanted to use the ‘race card’, wanted to be a victim. Truly disgusting

    • Sunday says:

      I don’t doubt that some courtier told her she should totally go out for another role, she could definitely keep acting, just to give the press more ammunition and to use against her as proof that she was unfit to be a royal. If it did happen, it was another attempted setup.

  30. LurkerGurl says:

    Hello Everyone,
    I just HAD to sign up and post after lurking for a long time. My god! Can you believe the audacity of the crap coming out of KP!? The smear attempt is so obvious I cannot believe they are this desperate. I wonder what’s next!?

    • Lady D says:

      I believe that next it will be poor Harry, that jezebel Meghan tried to hit on William and that’s why Kate could never trust her. They want that marriage ended, they don’t care what it takes. I believe there is no depth to which these bastards won’t sink. I so badly want Harry to write a book.
      Welcome to CB LurkerGurl, this story really is too despicable to not comment on.

  31. SaraTor says:

    Dear God. This is like a farce except it’s tragically real. In the face of what happened to Diana, in the face of Andrew’s underage sex cult ring, how can they think attacking her like this will do anything other than expose them for the OG trolls and hypocrites that they are?

    I have dealt with the emotional abuse and gaslighting of a narcissistic family member, who I’m estranged with now, and it was traumatic. But on the global stage, from my family, my in laws and the media simultaneously? Almost unsurvivable would be right.

  32. Ken says:

    The British Media is proving Harry’s point of having to leave the country to prevent having a repeat of what happened to his mother. My guess is that Harry/Meghan wanted to stop playing make believe and get real jobs and pay their way. The RF and the British Press refuse to allow that to happen. They just can’t quit Harry/Meghan

  33. Lizzie says:

    All I hear is ‘she asked for it’. Putrid garbage.

  34. atorontogal says:

    Now they are comparing her to Wallis Simpson because she parts her hair in the center!! Man alive I’d be mortified being associated with any of these gossip hacks.
    I thought after they were caught wire tapping phones that they would smarten up a bit, but they’ve gone even lower. And remember when Camilla was getting attacked? Now she’s the rose of the garden ffs!

  35. Chelsea says:

    There are so many dumb and vile quotes here but im tired of the gaslighting claiming that the palace was helpless to stop the smear campaign and that Harry & Meghan were unfairly asking them to sever the RF’s working with the media. They were the ones feeding the smear campaign! They were not helpless or bystanders: they CHOSE to go the press with negative stories about her including detailing the cruel nicknames they had for her, while she was pregnant! But now they’re blaming HER and that she wanted them to publicly trash her? GTFOH

    Also: if these palace staffers were so gentle and didn’t know how to be uncivil in the face of incivility: praytell how did they fix their mouths to call her a Degree Wife, Harry’s showgirl, and Duchess Difficult and leak it to the press back in 2018 and 2019? And if they care so much about their side being out there why can’t they detail specific incidents or publicly put their names out to statements?

  36. Yes, Meghan is the real victim of William’s oppression. William the leader of all bullies !

  37. kelleybelle says:

    Right, sure. Like rape victims “were asking for it” type of thing??

  38. Shoo fly says:

    A few weeks ago someone asked what a “mandarin” meant. Well, this. The main source of the times of London pieces is very clearly Simon Case and then Jason Knauf. Kelly Anne Conway-esque. This is Case, having returned to government, throwing what he has left out there. I’m sure he’s got something saved for next week, too. Re: the bullying – I wouldn’t be treated my employees who are actively leaking against me to the press, employees that I have no control over who have control over every aspect of my life, well.

  39. Jen says:

    This racist gaslighting is so out of touch. It saddens me how people don’t see through this.

    • Betsy says:

      Do you remember that study a few years ago in which people were asked to closely watch a basketball game for some sort of pass or something? Only the study wasn’t really to see the pass, it was to see how many people would notice the person in the full on gorilla suit running through the game. A shocking number of people literally did not notice someone wearing a head to toe animal suit because they were looking so hard for something else.

      This reminds me of that. People feel like they’ve been asked to look for evidence of Meghan and Harry being naughty, so that’s what they’ve strained their eyes to see, missing the fact that this is William throwing his brother under the bus.

  40. WintryMix says:

    Of all the sh*t they’ve flung in the past week, this “she wanted to be bullied” garbage is the part that has shaken me to my core. It’s genuinely evil. The depths of the gaslighting and lying and smearing in that. I truly have no words, except for to say that if they thought people hated the British Royal Family before…I’m going to throw an actual party when the whole sorry institution finally rots into the ground.

  41. Phoenix says:

    WTF is wrong with these people. Every statement in this article is just…unbelievable.
    I really don’t know what to say.

  42. Nic919 says:

    I read that paragraph about Meghan wanting to be a victim and amidst all the disgust also realized that this is what they think of Virginia Giuffre.

  43. Over it says:

    I would stop responding to the times if I were Meg and Harry , I would call Oprah up and say time to add 45 more minutes to your interview, gloves off now, fuck will. I also want to remind you that they claim to be worried about Philip so the interview should be canceled, they don’t seem worried enough to stop talking to the times, They are literally attacking a pregnant woman yet again who lost a baby recently, why are we to worry about the health of a 99 year old but no one in that petty racist realm seems to care about her being pregnant now or when she was pregnant with Archie. I despise these dirt bags.

  44. aquarius64 says:

    Idiots. All of them.

  45. Jean says:

    In their statement the Sussex are accusing Buckingham palace, not Kensington. It’s probably both though.

  46. Petra says:

    The she was asking for it defense is finally here. Wow, I never thought the BRF gold standard PR would scrape the bottom of the barrel. I’m lost for words.

  47. Likeyoucare says:

    You know that cute woc girl, natalie from the Game of Thrones. She can be meghan in the next the crown series.

  48. lanne says:

    She was asking for it. Got it. So was Diana, right? So was Virginia Guiffre? Elizabeth, come get your media. For all the shaming you’re trying to put on Meghan for wearing Saudi earrings, you forgot that the U.K. is NOT Saudi Arabia. Or is it? Remember that they are angry that 2 adults deciding to make their own living away from the family business. That is their crime. I would be embarrassed to be British right now (and yes I spent 4 years being embarrassed to be an American)

  49. Jayna says:

    Unbelievable. It’s really despicable what they are pulling.

  50. Powermoonchrystal says:

    I am speechless at this one. I now see W & K just as badly as Trump. These people are morons.

  51. sara says:

    this couldn’t be more idiotic. whatever you say about her, you cannot say Meghan was not excited and enthusiastic and ready to fully commit to this. the problem was she saw it as a job and was doing it better than everyone else on her first day.

  52. Lizzie says:

    She was both asking to be bullied and a bully? This is how bm explains they were not bullying Meghan? Just more garbage from bm.

  53. Catwoman says:

    He has said multiple times now that “he wanted out” “he wanted to protect his family” and if you look at old interviews when he was active duty he said he hated the media. Harry has always hated the media and I imagine he always planned an escape route when the time came. Yet no matter how much he screams it they still blame her. It’s absolutely appalling.

  54. L4frimaire says:

    Reading all of this is just…I have no words and just makes me so angry. She wanted to be a “victim” so they could leave ?! How off have we heard this every time a woman or person of color speaks up about misconduct or being abused? Why is she saying anything, why can’t she just take it and move in, she just wants attention, she wants to ruin their life ,and on and on. At this point we haven’t heard a single word from Meghan in this interview. It’s all just so dishonest and patronizing. They could have left them alone and gotten on with everything when the Sussexes left. Harry and Meghan were minding their business and doing their Ian work, but it was the royals and that rapid press pack who kept going on and on after them. This truly is a rotten institution.

  55. Carmen-JamRock says:

    Um….sacks of shit can actually verbalize?!? Who knew?
    Anyhooooo….@Lady Elaine it appears that you believe life is a zero-sum game: that if Michelle Obama, a black woman who pioneered the role of First Lady, for POC, occupying a space previously occupied only by white women, and the vitriol she faced by her detractors as a direct result, means that Meghan cant possibly face the very same type of shit.
    Exactly what kind of creature are you?

  56. betsyh says:

    A source said. A source said. A source said. Why are the sources never named? A good journalist identifies the source to show what they report is creditable. This could be anyone–even Princess Michael of Kent, who has been condemning the Sussexes for years.

  57. Kaw1204 says:

    The way these people are carrying on. My friends, who find my interest in the Royal Family bizarre, are planning on watching the interview because, as one put it, “the tea must be piping.” This is desperate tactics. Again, either Meghan has receipts on the Middltetons and Kate or, William (and possibly others) did /said something so vile that it could likely tarnish the Queen herself even more. I’m thinking there was A LOT of racism.

    And by the way, as someone who has endured abuse in the work place – the kind that makes you truly contemplate quitting without a new job in place – these “young women” need to grow a pair. Meghan is right. No one is perfect, but it isn’t her job to coddle people who are excessively inept. Can you imagine getting attitude and indifference from someone who isn’t good at their job? I can see these people going to William and Kate to clear whatever directive Meghan gave them, and Meghan getting annoyed. Any woman of color – especially black women – would be offended if their authority were questioned, especially by inept people.

    • Lizzie says:

      I think they were all livid they were out ranked by and had to take direction from a black American. They did the least they could and she called them out on it and still produced stellar work.

      • Jenn says:

        I can see why there was friction, though. I’m sure MM made the pursuit of equality and justice a tentpole of her philanthropic efforts, which surely didn’t appeal to people who genuinely believe people “get what they deserve,” who genuinely believe only a lucky few are “born into” deserving better lives. Once and always colonizers!

    • Kristin says:

      I fully agree with this theory. While I do think there was a healthy dose of racism and classism thrown at Meghan, I think a large part of the issue is these courtiers and aides are just lazy, inept, f-ing assholes. And you’re right about these young ladies needing to grow a pair. Maybe you can get away with being lazy and shitty at your job at Kensington Palace, but that shit doesn’t fly in the real world. Good luck with your future careers when you leave the bubble of the royal family and find out that future employers actually expect work and results!

  58. Saucy&Sassy says:

    I keep trying to make sense of this. I can’t believe they are this … stupid? So, I have to wonder about a couple of things. What is going on either in UK or the brf that they want to direct attention away from? And, is this their way of feeding the bm so that H&M will sue and they will get more stories going forward? Yes, they are desperate to harm H&M’s reputations, but this isn’t going to do it. It really proves their case. Do they really not see that?

    I hope if there is a lawsuit that Harry joins in and they name names in discovery. If the brf wants to sling this crap, they should get it right back in their face. I think the time for going high is over. I think just going for evens at this point would be the way to go forward. And, they better hope that H&M doesn’t lower themselves to their level, because they would likely burn the palaces down.

  59. Lulu says:

    This type of gaslighting smear campaign works on people prone to buying into this outdated mindset, like my parents generation who have deeply embedded misogynistic attitudes or aggrieved white folk that use slogans like ‘All lives matter’. They know they aren’t convincing young, diverse or critical thinkers with this nonsense. But their objective is to solidify their grip on any existing Cambridge fans so that no matter what comes out in the Oprah interview, those fans can hang on to the false narrative that Meghan is a bitchy, uppity, manipulative, gauche woman who doesn’t deserve their sympathy. They are trying their best to dehumanize her using every stereotype in the book. I swear all of this would make for a perfect case study of misoynoir, xenophobia and classism in college curriculums.

    • Jenn says:

      Yes, Lulu! It’s that same generational “well *I* was abused, everyone was, it’s called taking your licks” that gets conflated with “work ethic,” and it’s how we ask people to accept their own victimization as just a fact of life. It results in that “I got mine” mentality that so relies on people’s own internalized hatred of themselves.

  60. Shawna says:

    Oh, well if a senior aide informs Meghan that the Palace is doing all they can to help, then it must be true! *eyeroll*

  61. Nibbi says:

    OH THE TOXICITY
    holy crap, now they’re literally blaming the victim for being victimized.
    could it be any more clear that Harry and Meghan were RIGHT to step away from these people?!
    and damn, the interview hasn’t even aired yet, and they’re firing off all these pre-emptive shots. pissing themselves much?

  62. Liz version 700 says:

    Palace aids are a bunch of abusive toxic jackasses. This is disgusting and so so obvious.

  63. BnLurkN4eva says:

    I hope Harry knows what he has to do.

  64. Jenn says:

    I continue to find every aspect of this story harrowing. I am sensitive to “fish-out-of-water” narratives because of my own unusual upbringing, and I can see that MM and Harry bonded over both being (and I don’t mean to misapply the term but I can’t find a better one), “third-culture” in a way. Insisting that Markle *wanted* to be mistreated is just beyond. I’m furious for her.

  65. Dee says:

    Interesting that during her longstanding role on a long running popular TV series as well as her numerous roles with charitable organizations we have never, not once, heard any rumours of bullying behaviour from Meghan. Not a negative whisper from any costars or others of being “difficult”. Look at Julie Payette and others unmasked as workplace bullies – there is always smoke and there is NO SMOKE around Meghan, only hard work, creative thinking , community spirit, compassion and humanitarianism.

  66. blunt talker says:

    #56-Lizzie stated it perfectly-these people who work for the royal family have never in their life time had to take instructions from a black person-They rejected the idea of doing so and tried to thwart Meghan’s decisions in during her royal work-I would tell them this to their faces-God bless and take of the Sussex family.