Telegraph: The Cambridges are ‘often out of contact for extended periods’

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This is a photo of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge which was released by Kensington Palace on Friday. The Friday before Oprah’s big interview with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. They did that on purpose, as “business as usual” cosplay, like William and Kate haven’t haphazardly orchestrated one of the most pathetic and obvious smear campaigns we’ve ever seen. They want to be able to say “look at us, the good ones, reliable and true.” Kate even wore £5 Accessorize earrings to complete the norm-core cosplay. If you want to hear more about the Zoom call they made, go here.

Late Friday, the Telegraph dropped a long, bitchy story by Camila Tominey, who has spent much of the past four years being pretty unhinged about Meghan and Harry. Much of the piece is just a summary of everything that’s gone down in the past week, plus some regurgitated old smears, like Harry apparently shrieking “what Meghan wants, Meghan gets” to Angela Kelly, the woman who purposefully arranged for Meghan to borrow those earrings from the House of Saud (what happened to that story hmmm). There are some new pieces of information, including a pretty funny, vague assessment of William and Kate. Some highlights:

Once the engagement happened, people “accommodated” Meghan: Behind palace gates, it was quickly becoming apparent that Meghan had no intention of she and Harry being seen as the “supporting act” to the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, despite their seniority in the royal pecking order. “Everyone wanted her to be happy because they knew that would make him happy,” said one. “Do whatever it takes to make it work for Meghan was the mantra. We all cared deeply about harry. contrary to this idea that they weren’t supported, we were going to great lengths to accommodate their needs.”

Harry & Meghan emailed staffers! Staff had grown used to “email bombardments” by Meghan and Harry, with one describing how “the last thing we’d do before going to sleep is reply to their messages and the first thing we’d do in the morning is reply to their messages. Weekends, holidays – there were no boundaries. They live on their phones all the time”.

Thin-skinned: Despite publicly claiming they largely ignored the press coverage, in reality the couple were often consumed by it. “They’re both very thin-skinned,” said one former employee.

Duchess Kate’s tears: Yet it was not just palace employees who found themselves on the receiving end of “inescapable screaming and shouting”. Much has been written about the bridesmaids’ dress fitting, first revealed in The Telegraph in November 2018, that left the Duchess of Cambridge in tears. Contrary to subsequent reports that the row concerned Princess Charlotte’s tights, what actually happened was that the dress itself did not fit Kate’s then nearly three-year-old daughter. According to a well-placed source, “demands were made about when subsequent fittings would be, and Kate left sobbing”.

Meghan never wanted to be friends with Kate? While Meghan’s allies suggest that Kate did not make enough of an effort to welcome her future sister-in-law into the royal fold, allies of the Cambridges suggest she “tried to arrange social things” and invited her to watch tennis together but “there was a sense that Meghan never really wanted to be friends”.

The Cambridges are so lazy and mean: Those inside the palace concede, however, that the Cambridges can “appear standoffish” and are “often out of contact for extended periods”. Another former royal aide claimed the Duke, particularly, appreciated the “deflection” from his own occasionally demanding behaviour. “Bullying is endemic across all the households,” the former aide added. “The Meghan thing is a disgrace, but it’s not in isolation. They cut you out, undermine you, talk down to you. One minute you’re in – the next you’re persona non grata. Some staff have special protection. I’ve never witnessed behaviour like it before. I wish I’d never seen behind the curtain.”

Oh, a fun nickname for Harry: Little did the Prince know at the time that staff had also given him a nickname: “The hostage”. According to one person with first-hand knowledge of the events: “They insisted that they had the same inflation-adjusted budget for the wedding as William and Kate – she got the choir she wanted, the dress, the carriage procession, the tiara – she got everything she wanted but it still wasn’t enough. “She was constantly looking for reasons to say she had been deprived. Also, she wanted drama from the very beginning.”

[From The Telegraph]

It just goes on and on and you would think with all of this ink being spilled over Meghan’s “bullying” of palace aides, someone would be able to come up with a more concrete and detailed story than “Meghan and Harry emailed people all the time ahead of their wedding.” Or “Meghan and Kate disagreed about Charlotte’s fitting and somehow Kate ended up in tears.” Okay, what was said? And why does that dumb story keep changing, hm?

Anyway, the best parts of this article were the details about how the Lazy Keens are “often out of contact for extended periods” and that, oh right, William f–king terrorizes his staff. I would love to know how the MIA-Keens thing happens at Kensington Palace. Does Kate just pop in once a month, proclaim she’s keen about something and then she f–ks off to Anmer and never checks in with her staff for weeks on end? Because… that’s what it sounds like. And if the Kensington Palace aides were used to that, it must have been downright shocking to find themselves working for two people who wanted to have staff meetings every day, did follow-up emails and expected staffers to show up on time for meetings and such.

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  1. Jessie says:

    The two of them are so dead behind the eyes. It’s disturbing.

    • PrincessK says:

      I see that too. You can smile but the eyes tell the true story.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        The eyes say “ take the picture quick so I can stop pretending to like her/him.” To all of the Cambridge loonies who always respond with… but Kate will be Queen. I’m not so sure. Maybe, but they look awful together.

    • Nievie says:

      I mean William is a princeling and Kate is keen, mean, dim n slim…you don’t need many minerals for that.

    • Missskitttin says:

      Whatever they have been prespribibed rhymes with “annex”

    • Where'sMyTiara says:

      Saw this photo elsewhere on Twitter with the caption “they even look bored and dull watching porn”.

      Reader, I died laughing.

  2. Ginger says:

    I would bet my house that Kate wasn’t even at the dress fitting. I bet it was the nanny.

    I also don’t buy that Kate tried to include her in things. Kate doesn’t have female friends and doesn’t want to.

    • Lemons says:

      Kate couldn’t include Meghan when they were both out shopping the same day, same location, and crossed paths. If she had done that to me, I would have quickly gotten her M-O and avoided making further plans. Toxic people always think others are in the wrong, but we know how they roll.

      • S808 says:

        Yeah the shopping situation was a loud and clear message to me. I wouldn’t have bothered with her after that.

      • Tessa says:

        Meghan should have taken a friend to the fitting so she could have a witness in case of Kate making accusations or crying.

      • HeyJude says:

        @Tessa I think by this point Meghan had learned it’d be better not to expose her friends to these people. It would have put them right in the line of fire for the palaces to attack and the press to smear them too.

        I can just imagine the same thing would have happened and then the press would have accused her and her friend of teaming up and making Kate cry together.

        (This is why she didn’t invite certain people to the wedding either IMO. She was trying to shield them from this insanity. She invited those who were mostly already in the public eye and prepped for such scrutiny and such an odd atmosphere.)

    • February-Pisces says:

      “Kate tried to include Meghan on social things” yeah right. Kate and her family blocked Meghan from attending Pippa’s wedding as his plus one because they were jealous and insecure about her. Does Kate even do social things with other women? Like who does he hang with? Meghan seems to enjoy the company of other women, whereas Kate has never even been seen with a female friend.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Blocking her attendance while using the lure of Meghan to get more freebies and discounts for Pip’s wedding. All those articles about flowers, cakes, glass houses flown in from Belgium? One big press-for-freebies junket by Carole, always including a line or two about whether or not Meghan would attend. Otherwiser, no one would care about Pip.

      • Tessa says:

        Kate saw other women as threats. She scurried across a room when she saw another woman “coming on to William. She was not even dating him but pretended to be his girlfriend and william “thanked her”.

      • cassandra says:

        I still think it’s weird that Harry was even invited? Like I know they did it to be able to say he was there, but how many people invite their brother-in-law’s sibling to their wedding in real life?

      • notasugarhere says:

        The Midds were desperate to spin the idea that Harry loves Kate and the Midds. They kept changing their story, but they always wanted to be seen as accepted by The Windsors – especially Harry.

        Carole kept changing her mind on that. When Harry outright rejected Pippa with a press release around the time of W&K’s wedding? Carole fired back with stories about how she thought Harry was tacky, uncouth, horrible table manners. Whatever. Then as time went on, they wanted to be seen as embraced by Harry in general.

      • swirlmamad says:

        @cassandra looking at it top-level, I don’t think it’s especially odd that the Middletons would invite Harry to Pippa’s wedding — if their family dynamic was indeed what they are portraying it to be (it’s not). In their La La Land, he’s part of the “one big happy family” dynamic since they love Will so much, and by extension his family, so they would want to include him. But they probably were hoping forever that Harry would get with Pippa to even further reinforce their place in the RF, and failing that they just tried to glom on to whomever they could in the family to get whatever status reinforcement they could.

      • Nic919 says:

        All they could mention was tennis and Wimbledon is the only thing Kate attends religiously. But Meghan was going to see her friend Serena Williams play regardless of what Kate did. And it is noticeable that Kate never attended any women events until she knew that Meghan was going to be there for Serena.

        Kate did nothing to welcome her. But we all knew that from the beginning. She doesn’t like women who outshine her.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Kate didn’t even engage with Meghan and baby Archie at that polo match! Kate didn’t try with Meghan at all!!

      • sara says:

        truly. I still find it ridiculous what a circus it became – them not letting her come to the full wedding. the stuff with meghan, being there or not, still took over the media/discourse about the wedding either way, so not inviting her was just petty and meant she wasn’t being included.

      • Jais says:

        @beaniebean- the polo pictures always make me sad. She looks so alone with hardly any interaction w her sil. I’d like to think maybe there was some nice interaction not caught on camera that day bc those pics…oof

      • Becks1 says:

        Yes in general, I don’t think Harry being invited was that weird (i invited my brother’s wife’s brother and her parents to my wedding) – but we all get along and see each other frequently during normal times, her parents always give me a kiss and tell me they love me (they have issues, but being nice to me isn’t one of them lol). But here, it’s weird bc the Middletons wanted the press of Harry attending, and they wanted the “Will Meghan attend or not?!?!?” Drama, but in the end they left her sitting at a house for hours while Harry attended the ceremony on his own. They’re sh!t.

    • PrincessK says:

      In terms of all the smears around staff leaving the Sussexes, what about all the staff that left Amner because of overwork?

      In terms of being tough on staff, what about the 20 staff who were commanded to form a bubble around the Queen and Philip at Sandringham but refused…what happened to them? Did they quit?

  3. Zen says:

    I wish a reporter would further talk to and get more concrete examples from that aide who said bullying happens across all the houses, that some aides have special protection and that Will appreciated the ‘deflection’. Deflect from what hmmm?

    • Snap Happy says:

      Agree. There is no way Andrew is easy to work for.

      • Aidevee says:

        I once waitressed at an event that Prince Andrew came to while he was patron of the R&A in St Andrews. He was actually pretty friendly and forgiving when I spilled hot gravy all over his crotch by mistake (maybe unsurprisingly since I was about 19 at the time). However, prior to the event, his officious jobsworth of an equerry announced that we were never to look him in the eye or speak unless we were asked while we were in his presence.
        I remember at the time thinking the whole thing was totally shitty since I’d been on a night out with my friend for her birthday the weekend before and Prince William had leant across the bar and told her ‘nice baps, do you wanna birthday kiss’. They are all a shower of shits.

      • betsyh says:

        Aidevee, Thanks for the tea!

      • Lorelei says:

        @Aidevee, thank you, I will be laughing at the thought of hot gravy being spilled on Andrew’s crotch for a long time 😂

    • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

      “Some aides”… Like Machine Gun Kelly? She is teflon in ALL the households apparently. Who else?

      • notasugarhere says:

        IDK if she’s teflon in Clarence House. The jewels we see on Camilla are things Charles inherited personally from his grandmother, including Camilla’s engagement ring and her fav couple of tiaras. Doesn’t look like he’s trusted those or Camilla’s Saudi gifts to AK. Could be he keeps them secured-and-accessible by Duchy or Clarence House staff, to prevent Camilla from having to kowtow to AK.

    • Myra says:

      They won’t ask but if they did, people would realise that abuse is par for the course for these people. I’m sure staff who actually found Meghan to be nice, are pretty confused by these allegations, especially when they’ve seen worse from Charles, WIlliam, Anne and Andrew.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        I read a story about Charles screaming at and throwing things at his “dresser guy” so badly he ran out of the room, but instead of going into the hall he accidentally ran in the closet and stayed there for 10 minutes rather than face Charles again. These are not nice people to work for. I think that story was on CNN. This is how badly they have messed up, now they are being discussed on CNN, the Washington Post, The NY Times and the other heavy hitters and the stories are not the syrupy dribble they are used to from the RR. The major networks smell blood in the water and don’t want to be the ones who missed the scoop that the Royal family isn’t the nicest. Mind you the 171 countries they invaded could have dropped some hints.

      • Myra says:

        Exactly. It was only two years ago that it was reported that Andrew had an altercation with a staff. A physical one, which is quite serious. Where was the dignity at work then? This family is one big sham.

      • Tessa says:

        Stephen Barry Charles former Valet wrote a book about what it was like to work for Charles. Charles was demanding and told Barry his bath towel had to be laid out”just so” for when he left the bath tub. He also was fussy about his diet and asked that his chef boil several eggs t hat he could sample then chose the one just right

      • MA says:

        I read when Charles goes on tour he brings a toilet seat with him. Imagine being the guy who has to install a toilet seat so his boss doesn’t have to take a crap while sitting on a foreign surface.

      • UptownGirl says:

        @ Myra, that pops up in my mind quite often. I keep thinking of their fair well luncheon in which Harry and Meghan took everyone to lunch and they all seemed to be happy. If I remember correctly, there were tears as well as some of the staff were going to miss them. So how does this sudden announcement to the investigation of bullying on the part of Meghan? As for emails, I don’t find it surprising to have sent emails to your staff, but it seems ludicrous that Meghan was constantly on their ass about responding and having to be at her beck and call 24/7. Had there been such unhappiness, why did it not surface then at that moment of the luncheon? Also, telling is that the supposed victims do not want a formal investigation and/or withdrew their complaints. You can’t have it both ways!! Though by way that BP is pushing it, they should investigate all of the bullying that seems to be going on with everyone within The Firm!

    • Becks1 says:

      That was such an interesting tidbit to slip in there – that bullying happens across all the households (I mean do we think that Phillip is easy to work for? Andrew? Anne? No they are all going to be assholes because that’s what happens when you believe you are better than everyone else just because.)

      • GraceB says:

        I agree, I thought that was very telling too. I’m sure they all bully their staff and treat them badly and I hope that if nothing else comes out of this, things might change on that front.

        I also am curious why there are not specific details about the bullying and wondered whether for some reason they’re now allowed to say? I don’t get why they wouldn’t make up a story to go along side the allegations if they’re all made up.

      • Korra says:

        I think it was mentioned on here that Edward was known for being rude and use to tell his drivers not to talk to him or glance in the backseat at him.

      • Purple prankster says:

        in my opinion having servants doesn’t bring out the best in anybody.

      • Lowrider says:

        Only Meghan will get the burnt of being labelled a bully, not Will, Kate, Chuck orBetty. So this tidbit does nothing nor will it change the working relationships between the remaining royals and their staff. The staff could call out the other royals by name but only Meghan was zeroed in on and made the scapegoat. So, pass.

      • eb says:

        That’s also what happens when a dog is caged too much. It can drive them crazy.

    • cassandra says:

      That aide’s comment is definitely the most rational one I’ve read.

      My bet is that a lot of these aides don’t even truly realize how toxic their work environment is. A lot of them have probably been working for the royals for most of their careers.

    • FC says:

      I actually hope this HR “complaint” opens the floodgates to more stories on Will, Andrew, Charles, etc. You just know that staff lives in hell. ALL claims should come to light and be investigated, not just those against Meghan, and ideally by a 3rd party, not the Palace’s BS HR dept.

      • Jais says:

        Also, I don’t understand? If there’s an investigation will it ever come out that Meghan is exonerated from these allegations? Apparently 12 people have come forward. So will we get the actual actions(ahem) or that they turned out to be unfounded. Or will HR just let these allegations against Meghan hang over the court of public opinion? I know there was mention of 2022 but wasn’t that just about how the case was handled?

    • Anance says:

      The bullying accusations are simply another attack on Meghan. If there is any substance to them, they are due to—

      1—Courtiers did not expect the pace of work Meghan was used to.

      2—Courtiers do NOT like taking direction from a biracial woman.

  4. Digital Unicorn says:

    Hmm, I think this has come from Chuck – he’s pushing back on them for throwing Cams under the bus a few days ago. The Cambridges are going to regret that bullying storyline – once the interview airs tonight the press tomorrow will be crazy.

    That marriage will not last – the subtext to the story also implies that they don’t see each other much either, they are only seen together for zoom calls and public engagements. The truth will end up outing as the press will need a new click bait source.

    The Cambridges got what they wanted but it will burn them.

    • Lemons says:

      This is a good theory. It’s pretty interesting that this is now being pointed out. If KP staff can’t get a yes/no on a regular basis, they can’t plan a consistent work schedule.

      Then you have a new couple who arrives and wants to hit the ground running because at least one of them knows how to work and believes that the gold standard is also ready to work.
      They were only ready to give “princess lessons” and hand out minor events.

      I hope more RR’s investigate that little tidbit into how KP was run before H&M arrived. It seems pretty clear that they were coasting with the Dolittles.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        The stories of how badly KP was run go right back to just after the wedding – they had a revolving door of staff in the first few years, PA’s being promoted to senior positions, staff shagging each other, interoffice relationships going bad etc..

        It was run like a teenage soap opera – thats one of the reasons Chuck hired Catherine Quinn, to sort out the teenage drama in that office.

      • Red Snapper says:

        “She was constantly looking for reasons to say she had been deprived. Also, she wanted drama from the very beginning.”

        It reads like a tween with a litany of wildly exaggerated grievances.
        This is their best defense to their offenses?

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Digital unicorn
        There were also whispers William was sleeping with staff and Kate would retaliate by not going to events and bullying staff until they quit.
        Just whispers on Twitter mostly and it was years and years ago.

    • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

      “…the subtext to the story also implies that they don’t see each other much either, they are only seen together for zoom calls and public engagements”….

      While I agree, there will eventually be more and more stories about them, especially as Willie’s Wandering Scepter will becoming a divining rod for Rose Bushes of many different varieties over the coming years, when do we see ANY of the royals when they’re not doing public engagements? Oh, there may be the occasional pic of one or two going riding, or maybe a car shot going to a function…but “personal” paps? Not really. Those (like Keen in Meghan-Blue, outside the book store?) are an arranged pap shot.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Kate’s RPOs famously attacked that vacationer that caught Kate from her phone from a safe distance. They’ve made numerous complaints about privacy and held that meeting confirmed by the press present that only flattering articles would be pushed about the cams if anyone wanted pics of the kids. And no one was allowed to take photos of the cams without consent.

        The kids were bargaining chips and their privacy was for sale. Was and is.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Also why Kate spent twenty minutes pretending to edit a series of articles for HuffPost. The US outlet was publishing pics of the kids, but as a US publication W&K couldn’t pressure them. So, in exchange for the pretend editing, HuffPostUS stopped publishing pics of the kids.

    • Becks1 says:

      I definitely think the parts about William’s behavior and Kate and Will being out of touch for extended periods is from Charles. That’s what he has over them – they are lazy and William is an incandescent asshole who cheats on his wife. Here we have clear reminders of the first two – their laziness and William’s behavior. I think this is a warning shot.

    • If indeed this comes from Charles then he is definitely ok with throwing Meghan and Harry under the bus right along side William and Kate. The story is quite ugly about both couples but mainly about the Sussexes. So how does that make Charles any better than William? If Charles is so pro Harry, why wasn’t this story pointing out the INACCURACIES about the attacks on Meghan and Harry before it started SUBTLY nailing the Cambridge’s? All 5 of them are nasty: Queen, Charles, Camilla (she’s had over 40 years with Charles and she hasn’t lasted because she’s a sweetie), William, and Kate. Of the 5 of them, I’d have a drink with Camilla as she is salty, witty, and down to earth…however, this is the woman who has lasted through his many mistresses, his marriage to Diana, and — it has been rumored — several mistresses post-Diana. She finally landed him but I for one would not turn my back on her if I got in the way of Charles.

      • Tessa says:

        Camilla maneuvered and manipulated her way to the top. She watched and waited and saw off girlfriends of Charles she saw as threats. She ousted the savvy Anna wallace, by dancing the night away with Charles in front of Anna. Anna broke up with Charles. I would not want to have drinks with Camilla, Charles, Kate or William. Camlla is not down to earth, she was a married mistress with Ambitions and even sat in Diana’s chair as hostess at Highgrove. I don’t think Camilla cares about what happens to Harry and Meghan. Charles probably provided for Camilla in his will so she would not have to depend on William for anything.

      • Becks1 says:

        Charles isn’t necessarily better. But I think William has forgotten that Charles is always 100% Team Charles. He’s not going to all out war with William yet. But this is, like I said, a warning shot. William’s PR tantrum over the past week has done significant damage to the BRF’s image. Charles isn’t going to like that.

    • ennie says:

      That is why they will keep leaking and making up things about the Sussexes.

  5. Lyra says:

    Of really? And water is wet.
    I can see a divorce soon, but William will take the initiative, because unlike Diana Kate doesn’t seem to have a agency on her own.

    • Ni says:

      It seems like William has the marriage he wants, actually. He gets to avoid her and do his own thing.

      • Jais says:

        Idk? If William can manage a divorce, I could see the press eventually creating a storyline about the divorced dad looking for love again. Then the press could have a slew of new potential love interests to vilify. And for sure Meghan would be blamed for the divorce somehow. But then I just think William might be too lazy to actually bother?

      • Dollycoa says:

        I agree. Why would he divorce her? He treated her like shit for 10 years, cheated and humiliated her, publicly shouted ‘ I’m free’ after he dumped her, yet she still hung on. He knows she will put up with anything, absolutely anything to be Queen. He can do what he likes, like his grandad. He deliberately married a woman with no agency, no thought in her head so unlike his mother, she wouldnt decide she has had enough. He didnt make his fathers mistake of marrying a young girl thinking he could change her. He married a fully formed Stepford Wife.

      • Agree Ni, I think William has his marriage just the way he wants it and Kate will stick it because she wants to be Queen. In the remote possibility he jumps ship, it won’t be until after his granny dies. However, I think the Cambridge’s have come to an arrangement and the press, and all those aristo toffs will collude with it. Look at Victoria’s son and his many mistresses. Even his wife accepted Alice in the later years.

      • HeyJude says:

        I agree. It will not be William to take the initiative to end things. It will be the woman he eventually genuinely falls for who happens to have a bit of backbone and/or wants the crown.

    • MrsBanjo says:

      If William divorces Kate, imagine what the Middletons will do. They know shit about him, and they’re not remotely above using the press.

      • Snuffles says:

        He probably has an equal amount of shit on them. He would probably have the tabloids on his side and will instruct them to destroy the Middleton’s.

      • notasugarhere says:

        They have nowhere near as much leverage as the Royals, who would bury the Middletons. Uncle Gary’s shady money, PP shady off-shore money, the off-shore mortgages.

        If the Middletons won’t go quietly, all William has to do is claim 1) he was emotionally manipulated by the Middletons following his mother’s death and 2) Kate/Carole were the ones against Meghan the whole time.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        Mutually Assured Destruction – that would seriously damage the image of the BRF even more than it is already damaged. I don’t think they’ll ever divorce. It’d be too much work for William + it would tear down the wholesome family man image that he skates along on.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I think whatever the royals have on the Middletons far outweigh anything Carole might have. What would they share, info on William’s bedroom habits and his number of affairs? Uncle Gary has already spoken on Kate’s prowess in the bedroom (gross). William could spin that as to how they manipulated poor orphan William with emotion (Mummy Carole) and sex (Kate).

        We’ve seen for twenty years how Kate willingly puts up with his affairs in exchange for position and a lazy lifestyle. William cheating isn’t news, it is something Kate has always known and accepted. And we’ve seen plenty of stories that back up the idea Carole manipulates William emotionally; he’d use that against her and Kate.

        Kate has been too lazy and inept for too long. She doesn’t have public appeal, the Middletons are broadly disliked, she is expendable. If William takes the high-road of ‘friends who grew apart’, he could play the role of engaged single father. If the Midds push back, he claims they deliberately damaged his mental health for years because of their own greed. Fodder to limit their time and exposure to vulnerable heirs to the throne. They’re torn apart by legal challenges about their business and offshore funds, all of their ties to tabloids for the last twenty years would be outed, etc.

        Carole’s ultimate goal isn’t Kate as Queen Consort, that’s secondary. Her big goal was her grandchild on the throne. If William divorces Kate, Carole still gets that.

      • Becks1 says:

        This whole Meghan saga has been one big warning shot to the Middletons. Meghan has powerful friends and is media-savvy and they are still stupidly trying to destroy her. If William decides to divorce Kate, she’ll get the same treatment, maybe even worse.

      • Tessa says:

        Chelsy Davy reportedly was told by Kate to “expect cheating” when she dated Harry, implying that William was cheating and it should be expected. William was photographed with other women at clubs soon after the breakup with Kate and pursued aristo women who turned him down.

      • Lady D says:

        I think that even if the RF wins the public battle against the Middleton’s, they will still suffer irreparable damage from the Middleton attack. First Diana, then Meghan, then the mother of the future king all smeared by the palace? It will end them.
        I wonder what Kate’s price is?

      • HeyJude says:

        The Middletons aren’t exactly in any position to be launching a smear campaign.

        Pippa’s father in law is an accused child rapist.

        Gary is a drug trafficker and implicated in prostitution rings so human trafficking as well.

        Kate’s parents have wealth that cannot seemingly come from a failing party pieces business.

      • Nic919 says:

        All the BRF needs to do is to say that Party Pieces was a money laundering operation for Uncle Gary and the Middletons are toast. That pot farm on adjacent property is also another weapon.

        Revealing that William cheats is nothing compared to that.

    • SH says:

      William has watched everything Boris Johnson has gotten away with in his personal life and is probably starting to believe that he would get the same press protection if he divorced and went public with one of his mistresses, especially considering his love of hiring Boris Johnson’s advisors.

    • notasugarhere says:

      I could see a divorce, but only if more affairs don’t surface. When William dumps Kate, he wants to say they were friends who married, grew apart, married for wrong reasons, too much stress on Kate. He doesn’t want his infidelities to be the public reason.

      • Tessa says:

        He would say indeed that they “grew apart.” Romances at University he would say don’t stand the test of time and he should have had more time to date and felt ‘pressured’ (even if he kept her waiting until he settled for Kate). Then he would be seen a few weeks later dating and then becoming “serious” about her.

    • Sofia says:

      I doubt it. William would have to put in effort to rehab his image after a divorce and I think he’s too lazy to do that.

      • notasugarhere says:

        No, he’d just use his dozens of tax-payer funded staff to rehab his image. Very little work on his part.

      • Sofia says:

        He still has to direct and tell said staff to do so. So he can still be lazy

      • notasugarhere says:

        All that takes is one sentence from William to Jason – bury the Middletons and make me look good.

      • Lady D says:

        I’m telling you, it’s not going to be that easy, nota. Not in the digital age. Plus, Carole’s a planner and she covers all her bases. She knows the score probably better than William does. Just might be the battle that ends the monarchy.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I don’t think it will be that difficult, honestly. Carole thinks she covers her bases, but we’ve seen her a$$ revealed too often in her blatant ties to tabloid hacks and her pro-Kate PR pieces. William will go to his father to get help. Charles + William + Windsor machine vs. Carole? Carole doesn’t have a chance, especially if the royals have people delve into the shady Middleton/Goldsmith money, the criminal charges against Middletons that keep disappearing (Pippa gun scandal in France, Matthews potential rape of underage niece). No one likes the Middletons, no one will care if they’re torn to shreds. The Tatler article was just one warning shot, as Becks1 has written.

    • VS says:

      He is NOT going to divorce Kate. why should he? they are HAPPY together and do deserve each other.
      W got exactly the type of wife he wanted; one who is quiet and doesn’t bother him
      K got also what she wanted; kids and a title

      Let’s not wish for them to divorce; there are 3 kids that will get involved with the drama and the cycle will continue

      I just wish for them to let H&M live their live peacefully and continue with their work.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Why wish for three innocent children to remain in a marriage where the parents are openly unhappy, working against each other, incapable of spending time together without backstabbing and attacks, an enviroment filled with manipulation and schemes?

        Raising children in an unhappy marriage is far worse than divorcing and figuring out how to co-parent.

        Yes, this can even be done in royal families. The second son in Denmark and his first wife divorced amicably. They co-parent happily in a blended family with his new wife and kids.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Are they happy? Kate has done PR stunts that make William look bad a few times. If she was fine with the affairs why would those stunts happen? They only called attention to where William was and why he wasn’t with Kate. Even Kate outright saying William was barely around after George was born for months while she lived with her parents.

        And why did Kate try to oust rose from their friends circle? She’s probably unhappy at this point with the bargain she made.

        If we’re talking about kids… statically children that grow up in households of unhappy parents that stay together for the kids have dysfunctional views of healthy relationships. And they’re in the firm which doesn’t help anything.

        No one is wishing them divorced. Only speculation on what would happen.

      • HeyJude says:

        The do not look happy in any way shape or form just from their faces and body language.

        They look like 2 of the most miserable people on earth.

      • VS says:

        My “Happy” was more sarcastic than anything….. at the same time, I don’t want to speculate on them separating; I just hope they think of their kids, misery or not

        The misery W&K did to Meg is what I care most about as far as they are concerned. Technically, W&K are mediocre people; you could see it before Meg entered the picture and look at them now?

        I can never imagine doing to a sibling what W did to his one and only brother……how one can do that to a sibling is mindblowing to me? I know there are narcissistic siblings or rivalries among siblings but to this point?

      • Lowrider says:

        Nota, the real problem is Will not his wife or mother in law.

      • Kkat says:

        VS one of my sisters is a malignant narc, she literally told my mother to never have anything to do with me again and to kick me out (I had just had a baby and a uterine rupture and 15 hours of surgery) or she would never let my mother see her three kids again.
        The smear campaign she waged on me was fierce, trying to get my other two sisters to hate me (didn’t work)
        After my mom told her no my sister didn’t speak to my mother for 4 years, until my sisters kid got cancer and she then needed my mom.

        We were in our 30′s-40′s when this went on, so its not like it was kid stuff.
        My sister has always hated me and has been great with our younger two sisters (im the oldest)

        So yeah siblings can be horrifying pieces of shit.

        one christmas she gave me a gift box with a note inside telling me to kill myself because everyone in the family hated me.

        So i am in no way shocked about anything I read about the RF, some people are evil

      • notasugarhere says:

        Lowrider, I don’t give Kate or Carole a pass on anything for the past two decades. Kate is a lazy, abusive meangirl who has bullied other women since she was in her mid-teens. Carole is a scheming stage mummy who helped her daughter belittle and degrade herself as a sexual plaything in exchange for position, freebies, and a hope of an eventual marriage of convenience.

        They have helped keep William as a petulant, pandered-to adolescent. Pandering to his childish whims, with Carole always there to patch things up when William and Kate fight with each other like teens. Kate the Prickly Princess is not fiction, it comes from years of people observing and talking about her demeanour. They’ve openly schemed against Meghan. They’ve willingly entered in to a situation where a miserable business arrangement marriage was accepted because of their desire for attention, position, money.

    • L4frimaire says:

      I seriously doubt that. They’re the way they are and it seems fine for them. I find this type of speculation so uncomfortable because it’s the Sussexes who have had constant pressures and attacks on their own marriage, and it’s still early for them. I’d rather support them in their marriage than wishing the demise of others, no matter how petty or mediocre they are. What is terrible is that Harry and Meghan’s union is constantly under attack and speculated on, degree wife, etc. It’s upsetting how they were given no space at all to just be newlyweds and have a little sanctuary while constantly attacked. Part of the panic was not only having Archie, but now expecting another one. Babies are bonders. Part of the reason they left was so they could have some semblance of a normal married life. Will and Kate and their marriage don’t concern me, as ridiculous as those two are.

      • VS says:

        You explained it much better than I did above…….I don’t want to speculate on their marriage…… what these 2 have done to H&M is just ….

      • Nic919 says:

        Their attacks on H and M have probably had them working together for the first time in ages.

        When it comes to engagements though they still look awkward as hell.

    • Korra says:

      I don’t think a divorce will happen until the Cambridge kids are old enough to strike out on their own, or close to it. William is certainly aware that he is (for now) more popular than his father. He would want to be seen as avoiding the same mistakes Charles made, and that includes keeping his affairs out of the public eye.

      • Lorelei says:

        The ONLY thing William has going for him is the “happy family man” image. He’s seen as the opposite of his father and that’s exactly what he wanted.

        I don’t doubt that he’d love to divorce Kate, but I don’t think he will because his reputation, at least for now, rests on all of those happy family photos they release.

      • notasugarhere says:

        He is only more popular than his father with a handful of old Diana fans and people on tumblr. Charles has accomplished a lot, he is seen as capable. William is seen as a runaway brat who flouted COVID conventions and is incredibly lazy.

        The talk has been rising around the W&K marriage. Leaks that William wanted to set Kate aside but Harry and Meghan’s departure ended it for the time being. Leaks that Carole is looking to buy in Norfolk, potentially because of William’s Rose trimming. This relationship only made it to marriage, and has only lasted, because of Carole’s constant interference.

  6. STRIPE says:

    “Bullying is endemic across all the households”

    ORLY? When you have a whole system based in eugenics, those at the top aren’t super duper kind and treat everyone as equals? I’m shocked. Shocked I say.

    • Amy Too says:

      But they’re only going to investigate the black woman who quit over a year ago.

      When the very first article came out about BP being disturbed by the allegations of bullying and then setting up an investigation into the complaint, I had a feeling that what they were really disturbed and upset about was that the staff actually had the audacity to file a complaint against a member of the family and use the HR department against the family. And then the article came out that they weren’t really investigating Meghan’s bullying but investigating how the complaint had been handled and I took that as some additional evidence for my theory. I think BP is trying to say that they’re very worried about staff claiming bullying or harassment by their bosses and then documenting it and filing official complaints because that would mean that they’re being less than 100% completely loyal and bootlicking to the royals and they don’t want their staff to start thinking they can question the royals in any way. I think KP leakers and the press are the ones trying to frame it as the investigation is about Meghan specifically, and her alleged bullying, and how she’s going to get in so much trouble.

      • Drun says:

        This is how I read it as well. The press want it to read as specifically investigating Meghan and only Meghan.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Amy Too, that’s a good point. Because of the timing, everyone assumed it was just another Meghan smear — and I still think it was, but the gold standards might have thought they could kill two birds with one stone by releasing it now. Attack Meghan right before the interview while at the same time sending a message to employees.
        I’m sure there *have* been other complaints made over the years, but they were handled internally and discreetly, not with a leak to the press followed by a f-cking press release from BP announcing an investigation. That treatment is only acceptable for Meghan.

        Also, I think if this “bullying” ever happened, they would have provided details by now. It’s way too vague to have any merit; imo it was just a paper trail created by Jason so they could point to something, *anything* negative about Meghan when they became desperate, and they became desperate as soon as the Oprah interview was announced.

  7. Snuffles says:

    Is it just me but are all of these attacks against Meghan also laced with secret attacks against the rest of the royal family?

    • Red Snapper says:

      No. It’s just that sometimes the hypocrisy is so overwhelming that it’s impossible not to mention.

  8. ShazBot says:

    They really need to decide whether Kate is stoic and in control or whether she can be reduced to tears over a 3 years dress. Those 2 things don’t jive, so pick one.

    • And why is such a minor incident so hard to pin down with actual facts? Did it actually even happen (no one at the event claimed to have seen Kate cry)? Or —- if she did cry — was it the dress or the tights that made Kate cry; I saw one story that said Meghan was upset because Charlotte was being a brat? Almost 4 years and yet even this story changes constantly. Do I think Kate cried at some point that day? Yes, she was either pre or post birth and so very hormonal and used to getting her way with Harry’s women. Everything about Meghan must frustrate the hell out of Kate. She was being forced to deal with a very attractive woman who was coming into the family having forged a successful career, used to making decisions, and knowing what she wanted. Meghan was nothing like Harry’s former lovers whom Kate could control or intimidate. I think Kate saw Meghan as a threat the moment she first saw Harry and Meghan together and it just got worse as Harry brought her into the family.

      • HeyJude says:

        From what I read here and elsewhere, the press has pushed this story about a clash with Meghan over tights because something entirely different happened they’re trying to deflect from for the Keens sake. And it wasn’t a minor incident in significance. That’s why it’s been brought up over and again, it sounds like pro H&M people are trying to push the truth that this was a pivotal day out there but the press has refused to get into the real why and won’t reveal the truth.

        Which apparently is- It’s suspected this could have been right after Kate found out about Rose. Which apparently happened during her pregnancy with Louis. (Louis was born in April, the wedding was May, the timeline for a fitting lines up as probably late in that pregnancy.) And that’s what lead to the breakdown when she had to attend the fitting. She had to face her actually happy future sister-in-law who was preparing to marry an actual good man who really is in love with Meghan. All while Kate was carrying a 3rd child with a man who had a love affair while she was going through that pregnancy. And who seemingly only married her for royal business reasons not genuine love.

  9. Harper says:

    No, Kate. We can’t have the dress fitting after the wedding. It has to be this week. Bursts into tears.

    • Lemons says:

      😂 I picture exactly this. Kate making some demands for Charlotte to wear a different dress, or needing her to just come back a second time for the fitting because she’s a growing girl.

      And Kate, not being the center of everything, bursts into tears.

      • MaryContrary says:

        Kate was also either extremely pregnant or a few days/week post partum. I always figured it was hormones that made her cry over how the dress fitting went.

      • Julie says:

        Yeah, seems like straight up sabotage on the Cambridges part. It would obviously have been unseeming if Charlotte wasn’t included in the kids lineup but then at the same time, make sure to screw up her fitting so that the Sussexes options are either to omit her and get awful headlines or have her look unkempt thus generating future bridezilla stories

      • Tessa says:

        Even if Kate did cry and it had nothing to do with Meghan. She should have promptly denied the rumors. She did not. So she has a lot to answer for IMO.

    • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

      That whole thing, IF TRUE that Kate was there… she was what…3-4 wks. postpartum with Louis? At that hormonal point, you’re still crying if you find lint on your shirt in the morning. Holds no water for me.

      • JT says:

        I can’t believe we’re back to “Meghan made Kate cry.” This has already been discussed so many times. Although FF is not gospel, it did say that Kate was not crying at the fitting, nobody who was there saw her crying, and that story came out of left field leaving everyone confused. Even the RR had to admit that no, it wasn’t specifically Meghan, but it could’ve been, or some other nonsense. The fact they they have to bring up debunked lies about Meg just shows you they have nothing. I wish you all would stop giving credibility to this nearly three year old story. Is was bullshit.

      • Lorelei says:

        If Kate cried maybe it’s because Meghan called her out after learning that Kate planned to wear a WHITE* DRESS to Harry and Meghan’s wedding.

        *I know, I know, some people believe it was pale yellow, but you get my point.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Hahahaahaa yes!

  10. Gk says:

    It appears there are plenty of grudges across the entire family which will hopefully be aired for our interest. Cause how much longer can they harp on M she was only there a couple of years and human nature being what it is the aides are probably madder about what’s currently going on.

    • PrincessK says:

      Yes, true, they are a disunited lot all in competition with each other and the courtiers hold the real power.

      Also why did Catherine Quinn resign? After only two years as private secretary to Kate. At some stage that story will emerge.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Left to pursue work in the charity sector, because working for Keen didn’t offer enough opportunity to get charity work done.

        I think Quinn was destined to be short term. She was a Charles hire to make Kate work, and Kate fell pregnant within weeks of the hire being announced. Not much Quinn can do with a person who refuses to work.

      • Amy Too says:

        Catherine Quinn stated she wanted to leave so she could focus on charity work! I love that!

      • windyriver says:

        I assumed her contract ended. It must have been clear by then there was no way to get Kate to be productive in any meaningful way, so she moved on. The bit about wanting to accomplish things in the charity sector was a nice touch.

      • Maevo says:

        I’ve said this before, but I would looove to hear the Catherine Quinn story. She left before the Five Big Questions survey launch. You don’t do that if that’s your big important project that you want to see through to the end. I guarantee you she was horrified and frustrated by Kate’s work ethic.

      • I’ve always loved Quinn’s subtle dig at Kate as she exited KP. Brought on to coordinate and facilitate all Kate’s charity work, Quinn went on record when she left, stating she left in order to find a MORE fulfilling job where she could make a difference in the charity world.

      • Lorelei says:

        I don’t blame Quinn for leaving right before that embarrassing survey was released! If it were me, I wouldn’t want my name attached to that nonsense in any way. Even being briefly reminded of it again now makes me mortified for Kate all over again.

      • Alexandria says:

        If she spills, I’d buy Catherine Quinn’s book.

  11. Belli says:

    Wow, they really are telling on themselves aren’t they.

    • L4frimaire says:

      I think at one of Meghan’s last events with the commonwealth universities m someone mentioned that her visits were so great because she did more than have a cup of tea and was prepared. The story from a few weeks ago how Kate’s staff threw her Pakistan trip wardrobe together in two weeks shows that their staff isn’t constantly working. They probably worked round the clock to pull it off but what were they doing before? It seems this is as much about a work culture clash as well as all the other drama. It seems that in all these stories it never seems to occur to anyone that this was all entirely new to Meghan, surreal in fact. She had a lot to learn and a lot of work to do, so in that situation, especially if you’re a doer, you get to work. You’d think the people who worked for her would want to show up and earn about her too, not just expect her to check in occasionally. She’d be labeled as lazy and uncaring if she did that. There really was no acceptable scenario for her there.

      • Lorelei says:

        I mean, Kate rarely even bothers to take her coat off during engagements, even when being photographed. She’s so clearly just phoning it in and doing the minimum, waiting until she can leave. She could at least *try* to make her disdain less blatant, out of respect for all of the people who have to work hard to put an engagement together.

  12. Kalana says:

    The crying stories across the board are so racist. White woman tears to justify bullying. It’s sick. Beyond sick.

    They didn’t even try to make any of it believable.

    Kate’s racist as hell.

    • Merricat says:


    • February-Pisces says:

      At this point anyone who defends or supports the Keens are racist, 100% without a doubt. They might not think they are, but supporting the abuse thrown at a biracial woman who was used as a human shield to protect this mediocre white woman, is supporting a racial inequality.

    • windyriver says:

      I did a quick look, but haven’t seen if anyone noticed the couple of posts Omid did a little while ago. References an article in the Sunday Times about the RF and racism, but particularly has some choice quotes from several senior palace aides about Meghan. I don’t have time to check for the original article myself, and anyway I think the Times has a paywall. Just when you think they couldn’t get any stupider…

      Keep in mind too that at the moment TQ has just finished or is wrapping up the special program for Commonwealth Day.

      • Harper says:

        I’m not sure what article you are referring to @windyriver because The Times is especially prolific lately with their Megan stories. But there is one in today’s paper that is of note. Quote regarding what Meghan & Harry can expect after the interview: “The response will depend very much on if they go after the institution or the people,” said a royal source. “If they go after the people, the people will come out swinging. The institution can take the blows, the people cannot. The institution is not at war, the Sussexes are at war.”

        So not so subtle warning that if they say William’s name, he’s going to go nuclear?

      • windyriver says:

        @Harper, according to Omid, there’s a Sunday Times piece that basically says, the RF isn’t racist, oh no, not us; Omid’s comment was “Not quite sure who thought it was a good idea to brief these exact words, but it’s coming across a little “but my best friend’s wife is Black”.

        The real jaw dropper though is his second post: “The same article quotes several senior Palace aides who describe helping Meghan in her royal role by assigning the Queen’s Black equerry as a ‘mentor’, blame single parenting ‘for the way she is’, and claim that she wanted to be royal the ‘Beyonce way’.

        I looked around briefly for the original article on the Times website (but again, not willing to pay), because that last bit is just so unbelievable, I wanted to see it for myself. Stupid isn’t even the word for people so blind they would say something like this and not hear themselves – but I sincerely hope this is finally one step too far (and especially hope Oprah sees it).

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      On the money, Kalana. 💯%

    • Nic919 says:

      I think the times articles by Roya Nikkah will be covered tomorrow. But it’s super racist based on how Omid has described it.

  13. L4frimaire says:

    This is such a dysfunctional organization with no structure or discipline. It really is a mess but it will all be piled on the Sussexes.

    • PrincessK says:

      Yes, and how ridiculous to expect the Sussexes who have been stripped of their duties to continue to coordinate their diaries with so called working royals. Any time the Sussexes do anything in America they are accused of taking attention away from royals in the U.K.

  14. Chaine says:

    That photo! William’s face hints at the barely repressed rage of a man pulled away from his mistress to pose for a pretend Zoom call.

    • Juls says:

      Nailed it Chaine! I suppose he does have a mistress or two. But I can’t imagine why anyone, including his wife, would sleep with him. Shagging a wet piece of cardboard does not appeal to me.

  15. Bibi says:

    It’s tonight! The interview i can’t wait. Popcorn ready in full support of meg & harry

  16. Lauren says:

    How many more versions do we need of the Meghan made Kate cry white woman tears? This is the 4th or 5th version and they still won’t say just what egregious, offensive thing Meghan said. Also I’m reading this as confirmation that the Cambridges live in separate households. They be here telling on themselves.

    • Drun says:

      This! It’s so hard to believe this story when the reasons “why” keep changing. Maybe Kate did cry, but it had nothing to do with Meghan??

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        Kate was only 3-4 postpartum with Louis. If you said her necklace was turned around, due to being hormonal, she’d probably burst into tears.

    • Becks1 says:

      The reasonable thing to do about the crying would have been to have said (years ago, when this first came out) that yes there was an unfortunate incident at the dress fitting, caused by wedding stress and Kate being newly post partum or heavily pregnant. I cried a lot over stupid things when I was super pregnant and the first 6-8 weeks after giving birth. But they cant say anything that makes Kate look human or that makes Meghan look less of a diva.

  17. S808 says:

    In a way, not forcing W&K to get to work right after they got married is at the heart of A LOT of the issues contributing to H&M’s departure, at least from KP. KP is a freaking mess cause the bosses don’t do crap and don’t check in so the employees run the show. They’ve never had to put together a complete charity project so they had no experience in doing so. They were not at all qualified to work for H&M, but they were qualified to work for W&K who are just as unqualified to be there too.

    • Sunday says:

      Exactly. Meghan came in expecting her office to be just that – an office. I think the big disconnect between Meghan and the Cambridges (other than abject racism) is that Meghan actually wanted to do charity work and thought that was the purpose of her office, while the cambridges simply cosplay at charity work to maintain the facade of their “lifetime of service.” When KP staff was expected to actually work, naturally Meghan would be more demanding than the other two who only cared about how the “work” would make them look instead of actually trying to make an impact. So, not only were KP staff not expecting to actually do anything, I think they realized that having Meghan churn out real philanthropic work would only succeed in making will & kate look horrible and give up the game with regards to what they actually do (which is nothing). To prevent that, I’m sure KP staff slow-walked, undercut, and sabotaged anything Meghan tried to do, which any boss would naturally find unacceptable and push back against.

      To me, the most interesting thing is, how did Harry run Invictus and Sentabale prior to Meghan? Did he work with KP staff or did he have his own staff? Or were they happy to put in work for Harry because he’s a blood prince and not a Black American?

      • Snuffles says:

        I think Invictus and Sentebale had their own separate offices/teams I believe, but I’m not 100% sure of it. I just know that there was no push or pull over who would get to keep it once Harry left. It seemed understood that they are 100% his.

      • L84Tea says:

        This whole area right here is what I hope will be included in the interview tonight. I want to hear about her arrival in KP and what she expected vs what she actually got. I think she can shed light on this in a careful way without completely trashing KP/WK, but also throwing major shade and calling them out.

      • notasugarhere says:

        They are independent charities, formed outside of his royal work.

    • Neners says:

      Yes! I agree with this completely. The article claims that Harry and Meghan refused to play a supporting role to William and Kate. That’s because the only way to avoid outshining those two would be to do absolutely nothing. Meghan and Harry are passionate about their roles and wanted to work!

      • Lorelei says:

        @Neners that sentence also jumped out at me too. I remember talking to someone years ago who has some connections to the palace offices and the British media and she said that is the reason for ALLLLLL of this. Obviously the Cambridges’ jealousy played a part, but the entire BRF and their staff were truly shocked that Meghan didn’t see herself and Harry as “supporting” William & Kate as their primary roles.

        I was too young to know what the dynamic was when Charles & Diana and Andrew & Fergie were all still married. Did the Yorks have their own big projects? Or did they understand they were supposed to stay in the background and play second fiddle? Because if Fergie just quietly fell in line with the palace’s expectations, Meghan’s arrival would have been the first time these people had ever had to deal with this issue, and as we saw, they had absolutely no idea how to handle it. Throw in the blatant racism, the complicity of the media, the fact that Meghan is so impressive, gorgeous and interesting on her own (and that she isn’t a pushover; she wasn’t going to let lazy KP aides dictate what she could and could not do) — and the fact that she *immediately* surpassed Kate in popularity — and you can see how this spiraled so quickly into such a shitshow.

        What I have no idea about is if/what Harry knew about this “supporting role” expectation, and what he conveyed to Meghan about it, if anything. Maybe it was never made clear to him, or maybe it was and he laughed in their faces. I have no clue. But at any rate, Meghan was not going to play along, and good for her. She got more done in one year than Kate has in a *decade.*

      • MA says:

        They wanted her to dim her light. Remember when Meghan read that poem by Marianne Williamson. I find especially poignant these lines:
        “Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won’t feel insecure around you.”

    • That story about Harry making the coffee and them being upset when Meghan hired a Butler so he wouldn’t have to continue doing it says it all to me. This lazy bunch of prats actually think it is all about them. This isn’t a professional work group, this is a poorly run co-Ed frat house.

  18. Lizzie says:

    I would love for Meghans lawyers to open an investigation into whether employees were released from NDA’s only to bash Meghan.

  19. harla says:

    I saw Omid saying on tv that some principals only meet with their staff once a month while the Sussex’s were popping into the office on the daily, checking on events, meetings, etc. I can only imagine what a shock it must have been to the KP staff to be faced with a boss that actually wanted to work and expected the same from their employees.

    My tinfoil tiara theory about the bullying claims against Meghan consisted of employees who were for the first time expected to actually work and to perform their jobs well and complained about how unfair it was. When the employees found out Jason had submitted claims on their behalf, they realized how bad it would look to say that they found having to actually do the work for which they are paid was beyond their capabilities.

    • LP says:

      @harla That’s exactly what I think!! All these complaints read to me like staffers who had tantrums when being exposed to an actual work ethic for the first time!

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        Wasn’t it in Jobson, in one of the articles posted here, who said something to the effect that they (H&M) were too critical expecting more of those staffers who don’t do Jack, that they shouldn’t be expected to do more, because they’ve never had to do Jack for K&W? I can’t find it right now…but I remember thinking, WTF?

    • duchess of hazard says:

      @Harla, I think so too. Most of these people are from the ‘right’ families, public (private) school educated, from the smart set and just got jobs handed to them. If you read the daily Mail pages when they’re describing the people who worked for William and Kate you’ll hear about the independent schools they went to, and how their parents are owners of X and Y. So you get the feeling that the jobs were handed to them, but they had no true ‘expectation’ of work, not really.

      For instance, if Meghan is shooting off emails at 05:00am that’s fine, but I’m sure that it’s expected that you’ll attend to them in your job hours. People are just being overdramatic. It’s that lot who comes in late, saying how they were ‘gasping’ for a Costa coffee.

      • Spanky says:

        I’m an early riser and I send out business emails all the time around 5 or 6 am. I have no expectation that the people receiving them are awake, nor am I expecting an immediate response. It’s just the best time for me to get stuff done. I am not calling or texting anyone at that hour, which is only intrusive if people leave their phones/notifications on.

      • Amy Too says:

        I’m also wondering if some of the early morning, late night, weekends and holiday stuff was in the days immediately before the wedding when you would need to be in touch with people outside of business hours and on weekends. You would expect your staff whose job is to wedding plan a massive wedding to work some extra hours leading up to the wedding. So I bet this was like 1-2 weeks before the wedding and maybe the day of that she was expecting people to respond to her outside of work hours. Especially with everything going on with Thomas, which they probably wanted to be in charge of. He’s in a totally different time zone doing all sorts of crazy stuff, going into the hospital, leaving the hospital, doing pap shots, with articles dropping at all hours of the day and night about what’s going on with him. And Meghan was worried. And the staff wanted to make sure they were always in the room for talks and decisions. Well then, expect messages that come outside of business hours when the person you’re “dealing with” lives in a time zone six hours behind you.

    • ➕💯 HARLA. And your thinking is spot on AMY TOO.

  20. Sunday says:

    I’m actually sort of surprised that this includes the tidbits that Will & Kate are “often out of contact” – I mean, that confirms they don’t live together, right? And another dig at William re: being abusive to staff. Oh how I hope the media turns on the keens, now THAT would be popcorn worthy.

    • Lizzie says:

      Or they are on vacation a lot.

      • Sunday says:

        Oh, true. I read it as out of contact with each other but you’re right, it’s probably out of contact with their staff.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        That’s how I read it. They are constantly on vacation or just hiding out in Norfolk not bothering at all with the office, i.e. not working. I know it is a popular theory here that they live apart but I’m not so sure. However, it has long been clear that they work very little and I think this little barb hints at this. They don’t bother staying in touch with their office regularly because they don’t want to work and only put in the absolute minimum because they can’t get away with simply not doing any kind of royal “work”.

      • Becks1 says:

        I think its more about them not working than not living together. I think between Anmer Hall extended stays and vacation, they probably do go months without seeing their staff or stopping in at their KP office. It’s just more confirmation of their laziness. And the line about how all this is “deflecting” from William’s “sometimes demanding” behavior – I mean, part of the reason why these RRs are so heinous and the attacks on Meghan so gross is because the RRs know exactly what William is like behind the scenes. They know he’s an egomaniac who is always incandescent with rage. They just cant say it because no one wants to deal with the actual bully in the room.

    • Elizabeth says:

      I read that as Will and Kate often out of contact with their own staffers, unreachable professionally. They probably do live apart often though.

    • MsIam says:

      I thought the Sovereign Grant, the taxpayers money is what funds these “offices”? If Will and Kate were barely showing up to work doesn’t that mean that all of these paid staffers sat around doing a whole lot of nothing? On the taxpayer dime? I know they say they don’t get paid much but still. That ok?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Both the Duchy of Cornwall and the Sovereign Grant have exemptions, basically to stop anyone from digging in to how the money is spent. Charles and his line are funded out of the Duchy, the rest of the working royals out of the Sovereign Grant. Conveniently keeps the public from seeing how many staff everyone has or knowing too many details.

        QEII and Charles created a new Household for Harry and Meghan under BP, initially co-funded by SG and Duchy of Cornwall. If Harry and Meghan had stayed, they would likely have been fully funded out of the SG the following fiscal year. That only makes sense, as Charles will not be Duke of Cornwall that much longer. They should have put Harry under BP and Sovereign Grant funding years ago. Set him up as a working royal not tied to the Duchy, which will be controlled by William the moment QEII passes.

  21. Emily says:

    The intention of these stories is to make Meghan look bad, but they always end up making the Cambridges look bad. If I was Kate, I’d be horribly embarrassed about stories of me crying over clothing, or coming into my own at nearly 40.

    • Tessa says:

      I never really cared much for Kate but I tolerated her since that Flybe stunt I cannot stand her or William.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        Me too. Absolutely that was the point where I went from neutral to “are you kidding me?!l

  22. Snap Happy says:

    They demanded the choir? I thought it was Charles’ idea to hire the choir? They can’t keep their stories straight.

    • MaryContrary says:

      And she wanted her wedding to be about her and what she wanted? The horror-this is unlike any bride ever.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        It honestly doesn’t make Meghan sound bad that she wanted her her wedding to be like she wished. It rather makes the staff look indirectly racist as in “how dare a black woman marrying a prince want a standard royal wedding”.

    • Tessa says:

      The thing is Harry as the second son would get a big wedding no matter who he married.

      • Shoo fly says:

        Exactly, Tessa. The second son and only other child of the heir to the throne – Harry’s wedding was much less than Andrew’s.

    • Drun says:

      So according to this account, Meghan said how much did you spend on W&K, I demand the same amount to be spent on me???

  23. bitsycs says:

    Ah yes. The bullying from Meghan is exactly as I suspected. She expected them to ::GASP:: do the jobs they’d been hired for and they didn’t like that.

    It’s very clear that W/K’s work issue would trickle down to staff, and frankly, I’m sure that was part of the appeal of working there, knowing that very little would be asked of you most of the time. Imagine having a gross American who liked to work and had things she wanted to do come in and want to actually WORK! The horror.

    All these people are hideous and terrible.

    • Lilly (with the double-L) says:

      When I studied and lived in England for quite a few years, one of my first jobs was waitressing in an hotel. I was always doing my American thing of working hard, cleaning things when it was slow and I got so much push back from co-workers. I wanted to be friends, but I couldn’t change my work ethic. One lunch time it was really busy and I kept taking orders and putting them into the kitchen and it was getting to be an embarrassingly long wait for food. Finally, someone else working in the kitchen, there to wash up, told me none of the cooks showed up. Everyone was standing there, like “I guess we just hide out or something.” I was all “What!?!” and started making my own food, since it was mostly sandwiches and things. It was as though I suddenly turned into a unicorn in front of them. They were completely astounded, but finally told their own tables no one was there. But, we still managed to have fun and be nice to each other, they just thought I was weird. I finally quit that job, because stuff like that happened all the time and they tried so hard to get me to stay. I think of that often, and other experiences when I lived there, when I read the demanding b.s. Also, that women/people of color never operate like others do when in power. We’re more collaborative and very aware of getting white people tears poured on us when we set standards. That fragility is very much compensated for, but I’ll bet Harry did not see why that should be and pushed to advocate for his wife and what was needed. I also often faced, in leadership, resentment when I just do tasks myself rather than try to deal with that. I’m “demeaning” them and I do it without a harsh word; I just want it to get done. While I still face challenges at work, over the years I’ve managed to work in more diverse settings. It’s such a relief to have a haven at work, while still navigating the colonialism on the outside.

  24. Amy Too says:

    I would just like to say that Meghan personally made me cry some salty white woman tears early this morning when I figured out that my plans to watch the interview live on my roku tv’s CBS news app seemed like they might not work out. When I downloaded the CBS app and was told to sign in with my non-existent provider I cried tears of frustration. When I attempted to sign in with my Roku account and figured out that my husband set up the roku account with some obscure email address and a password I didn’t remember, I cried. When I attempted to push the “forgot password” link and then it didn’t send the email to reset my password, I cried again. Mostly about the fact that my husband keeps using obscure email addresses and passwords that he then forgets whenever he sets up our family’s TVs and computers and video game consoles, but it’s still all Meghan’s fault. It’s her fault that I’m PMSing and didn’t sleep well last night and attempted to do this all at 5AM before being fully awake and having any coffee. Such a bully, that Meghan. I would also like to personally blame Meghan and am going to sue her for $5.99 because I ended up signing up for CBS all access as a backup to make sure I can watch this live.

    • Xantha says:

      Thoughts and Prayers Amy Too. I hope you win your suit and you spend it on something fancy, like a single bar of Godiva chocolate lol

    • EllenOlenska says:

      I think you should call the DM immediately @Amytoo!

    • Lizzie says:

      Have you considered billing yourself as a royal expert? I think you could have a big career. Also, thoughts and prayers.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Are you sure you are a Royal Reporter?!? If not you could surely bill yourself out as one an easily recoup that $5.99… you write a lot better than they do lol

    • Harper says:

      @AmyToo, our family just had a massive Roku meltdown twice this week because we couldn’t figure out how to operate our own TVs anymore. Stay strong. #youarenotalone.

    • betsyh says:

      Amy Too: I signed up for a CBS account on my computer on March 3. Then I tried to sign in yesterday and was not able to. CBS became Paramount Plus on March 4. So then I googled Paramount Plus and was able to sign into my account. I don’t know if this is related to your problem?

      • Amy Too says:

        I think that was part of it! I ended up signing up for the paramount thing. I *think* I’m all set, now. I have the CBS news channel for roku, the regular cbs channel, and now the paramount plus/cbs all access thing where I’m able to watch my own local cbs station live. All these other ones had live news coverage, and they had old episodes of 60 minutes, but since it was CBSN I wasn’t sure if they’d be playing 60 minutes live or if they’d just upload the episode tomorrow or after it aired.

        There was so much gnashing of teeth and tearing of hair and marital stress this morning though over this stupid Roku password. I felt like one of the couples on teen mom 2, the early seasons, getting into screaming crying fights about something like who put the baby bottles on the wrong rack in the dishwasher! Luckily, the husband and I have made up.

      • betsyh says:

        Amy Too: Your description of your marital disharmony (or dish-harmony) made me laugh. Sorry :-) I hope I’m all set too or I will be very unhappy!

    • 😂😂😂😂 AMY TOO. Perhaps others above might join in and you can get a class action suit going about how hard Meghan is making it to watch the interview?

  25. L84Tea says:

    I’m just so tired of these two and their faux concerned head tilting.

    • Lorelei says:

      “Faux concerned head tilting”

      Omg that really nails it! For some reason I’d never really focused on the stupid head tilting, but you’re right, they *always* do it at the same time and it’s usually when they should probably be saying something of substance but of course have no idea what to say, so they think the concerned look will suffice.

    • Desdemona says:

      “Faux concerned head tilting”
      I almost spat the soup out with the laughter..

    • J.Mo says:

      Right? My dog tilts her head with more natural curiosity than these two.

  26. MaryContrary says:

    I can’t even believe that back in the day I liked these two. Blech.

    • L4frimaire says:

      I never paid much attention to them because the royals were staid and just there. I watched bits of their wedding, liked the dress,but seriously thought why he couldn’t have found a cute Swedish Princess or something to marry. Like don’t all the royals hang out? I tell you after this, they are looking at every little aristocratic girl and eyeing the Euro royal kids as potential matches for George,and keeping him far way from the USA, lol.

      • SomeChick says:

        um, really, a “cute Swedish princess” really?!

        you mean a white girl. damn.

      • Lorelei says:

        It wasn’t my post, but FWIW, I think the “Swedish princess” comment was mocking Kate — she is white, she’s just SO boring. At least that’s how I read it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

      • notasugarhere says:

        There was talk years ago that William liked the idea of marriage to Princess Madeleine of Sweden, just as there was talk of a set-up between Charles and Caroline of Monaco. Madeleine said no to William, Charles said no about Caroline of Monaco.

      • L4frimaire says:

        @Somechick, I was referring to Kate. Come on, we’re talking William here, king of paste. @Lorelei, yes you’re correct. I think William would find a Euro Princess too much and would be afraid she’d overshadow him. He couldn’t handle having a bilingual/ multilingual wife- too accomplished.

  27. Prairiegirl says:

    “The Meghan thing is a disgrace, but it’s not in isolation. They cut you out, undermine you, talk down to you. One minute you’re in – the next you’re persona non grata. Some staff have special protection. I’ve never witnessed behaviour like it before.”

    I don’t know if they do American style investigative journalism in the UK, but they should based on this excerpt. I would love to know *exactly* who ‘they’ is. Certain Royals? Senior courtiers? Once and for all, get to the bottom of it and make it public.

    • ArtHistorian says:

      I think that Andrew is absolutely horrible to work with (apparently he has a long history of abusing staff). There’s also some pictures floating around of Sophie telling off a protection officer. Angela Kelly is def a royal aide who has special protection because she should have been fire a LONG time ago for physically assaulting other staff. But she’s the Queen’s favorite. I bet there are a lot of other examples – but the Andrew and AK situations have been covered in the press. I also believe there was a situation with racist bullying of one of Charles’ employees by his senior staff.

      • Lorelei says:

        When I read that sentence, Jason Knauf immediately came to mind. He’s clearly one staff member who, for whatever reason, receives “special protection.”

  28. MsIam says:

    That Charlotte dress thing is crazy. Kids grow so fast its not surprising that a dress would need adjustment a few months after the initial fitting. But at the end of the day, what would that have to do with Meghan? There was a whole dress making team that would handle that. And did Kate want Charlotte to wear an ill fitting dress? Or did Kate want the whole dress remade and somebody told her, “ain’t nobody got time for that boo!”

    • Julie says:

      If I was guessing I would say the dress makers were denied access to Charlotte from get go. They were probably sent measurements that then turned out to be wrong. Hence the last minute discovery. Also professional teams don’t get a child’s fitting that wrong. Kate was crying because her sabotage had been discovered. She’s the one who probably sent in the bad measurements.

      • Tessa says:

        IF Meghan had cried she’d be listed as “hysterical” and “irrational”. Kate probably knows how to turn on the tears. It’s Kate’s problem if the dress did not fit, not Meghan’s

      • Lyra says:

        You are spot on. But I wonder, why Kate would do that? Women competition? Racism? Jealousy? I can’t understand this family.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kate is jealous of every other woman, including being raised to be in constant competition with her own sister. Meghan shows up, Harry is openly besotted, marries her the second her contract with Suits was up. Compare that to the 10 year Drag William to the Altar campaign from the Middletons, along with their open business arrangement marriage.

        On top of that, Meghan shows from the beginning that it doesn’t take 10 years to get work done as a royal. Of course Kate and her family would be against Meghan – she makes Kate look bad simply by breathing.

      • windyriver says:

        @Lyra, for the same reason Kate chose the dress she did to wear to the wedding, which was either actually white, or so close to it, that Kate was sure to be highlighted in photos and the color of the dress widely discussed.

      • February-Pisces says:

        Does anyone else think that Kate always had a mad crush on harry and was feeling extra insecure that he was crazy hot for Meghan and never looked at her twice? Kate may have got one prince down the aisle but she never got his love.

      • Lorelei says:

        @February Pisces yes! I don’t know if Kate necessarily had a crush on Harry, but she definitely loved the dynamic of the three of them, and of being the only woman. If you look at pictures of them arriving at events, etc. from 2011 on, she’s so clearly THRILLED to be right in the middle of the two princes.
        She must have known on some level that eventually Harry would meet someone and this wouldn’t last forever, but when it actually did happen, she…did not react well, to say the least.

  29. Sarah says:

    That email complaint really made me LOL. Have these people not held real jobs before? Because I check my work email last thing at night, and check it first thing in the morning come rain or shine. It’s called working in the 21st century.

    • iconoclast59 says:

      Have these people never had a conversation with a boss? “When you send emails during off hours, what is your expectation in regard to a response? Is it okay to wait until I login the next morning? Can you specify if something needs immediate attention? I want to be sure I’m meeting your needs.”

      Also, why hasn’t anyone asked KATE what happened at the bridesmaid dress fitting? I know why — the better to smear Meghan — but I’m asking anyway. This particular bit of gossip could be put to rest if Kate got off her a$$ and said something like, “There was a slight disagreement, but Meghan and I quickly sorted things out. Charlotte looked so pretty and had great fun at the wedding.” That she doesn’t tells me she’s a Mean Girl to the core.

      • Sofia says:

        I’ve said before they can easily put the Kate cried story to rest but saying something like “Meghan was stressed and Kate was very pregnant/post partum (depending on if Louis had been born yet). They disagreed and tensions were high but ultimately they were both able to put it behind them and enjoyed the day. Kate was super proud of Charlotte” or something like that

        But Meghan needs to be the villain so they won’t do that.

      • MA says:

        One early version of the “Meghan is a bully” story said Kate yelled at Meghan for mistreating her staff. Funny how the palace was quick to deny that part of the story.

    • Miranda says:

      I believe that, in the recent past (at least as late as Betty’s early reign), royal staffers and equerries could be seen as holding “grace and favor” jobs, given to members of the upper classes. Some were genuinely devoted to the royal family, but many were pampered brats who never expected to have to do any REAL work. I don’t know if the RF is still hiring those types, but it would certainly explain why they’re so indignant at being asked to make even the smallest effort.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Miranda I think you’re right, but it was compounded by the fact that the person they were expected to work for was a Black woman.
        They absolutely couldn’t handle it; they never truly saw her as their “boss,” imo, and as someone they needed to work hard for and had to work to impress, because from day one they thought that they were above a Black American woman.

        And obviously no one in the royal family did anything to correct this perception— in fact, they actively reinforced it.

      • windyriver says:

        @Miranda, it may be no different now than in other organizations where people are hired because of who they know; exhibit, Jason’s “friend” Toubati. We’ve heard more than once that salaries for royal staff are relatively poor, that it’s all about the prestige. How much does that prestige still matter, though? Wouldn’t talented people be more likely to find other jobs that are more rewarding financially and otherwise? Which means, less capable people are working for places like KP. Again, exhibit Toubati, who supposedly padded her resume, then found herself completely out of her depth when it came to her job responsibilities.

  30. Izzy says:

    I’ll be honest, when I saw the headline the first thing I thought was, “With their staff or with each other?”

  31. Tessa says:

    The NY Post today had Kate listed as a witness for Meghan’s alleged “bullying.” Poor Kate (LOL is listed as a victim and she is not issuing any denials. She is such a hard hearted person, I think she and William are in back of this. I hope this comes back to bite them. The same thing was done to Diana, all this gas lighting. Kate should not think she is so secure and smug. THis is all making me sick.

  32. KansasGal says:

    Hi! Long-time reader, first time commenter. I learn so much from the comments, so I want to trot out a couple of theories of mine to see what you think.
    At first I was pleasantly surprised, the Palace seemed in support of the marriage. Then little details around the wedding came out they gave me pause. FIrst, the date: there is a tradition that May weddings are ill-fated, and the date itself is Anne Boelyn’s execution date. While watching the wedding (I think on CNN?) commentators kept going on about how the Queen is so attentive to small symbolic details. Then they checked the back story on the car that brought Meghan and her mother to the chapel, and it has a connection to Wallis Simpson. If attention was being paid to symbolism, it seems like the message was, we will break this marriage.
    Then Harry and Meghan hit the ground running and showed the world what working royals could be, so the smear campaign began.

    I notice the whole Wallis Simpson/abdication connection is still being trotted out from time to time. My theory is that Wills for sure, and possibly other royals, actually want Harry to officially abdicate (not sure if abdicate is the right term here, but in any case to officially remove himself from the line of succession). And of course, they can blame Meghan. I think even royalists will grow weary of the work-shy Cambridges, and having a powerhouse like Harry in the line of succession may be tempting. I realize there is little to nothing the public could do about it, but seeing royals who work AND pay their own way does not reflect well on the BRF.

    Anyway, I’ll be watching the interview tonight, like everyone else!

    • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

      Even IF Harry removed himself (and his kids) from the succession, after Wandering Willie, they’d go through George (with a Regent until of age), then Char, then Louis. Harry wouldn’t come into play unless the whole Cambridge family was taken out by an accident (and of course, NO ONE wishes that!). Harry is NOT going to become King.

      Frankly, while I think Harry wishes it hadn’t come to this animosity, he’s thanking his lucky star (Diana!) for meeting a real partner, someone he’s head over heels about, for sharing the same passions, and getting the hell outta Dodge. He talked about wanting out *many* years before even meeting Meg, and I think with her love and support she gave him the confidence and impetus to say, “I’m out! You will NOT do this to my wife and child and expect me to take it.”

      I can’t wait for tonite, too!

    • Dollycoa says:

      Harry and his descendants could leave the line of succession, leaving mummy’s little soldier,Andrew, next in line after Louis.

    • notasugarhere says:


      I think the date was probably picked because it fit between existing royal obligations and timing. Commonwealth meeting in London, Commonwealth Games in Australia, Windsor Horse Show, Trooping, Kate expecting a third child that April.

      That date also fit within a six month timeline of Meghan getting a spousal visa. The Suits cast had a special party for her on 24 November. By 27 November, she was in London and they were announcing their engagement. If you arrive on a fiance visa, you can only stay six months before you 1) have to leave or 2) have to get married. We know she likely had to come back to the states at least once regarding that, as she was spotted at an airport in Chicago a couple months before the wedding.

      If the Queen does pay attention to the symbology of dates? W&K share a wedding anniverary with Hitler.

    • Lowrider says:

      The palaces never supported Harry’s marriage. You can tell by the numerous articles disparaging Meghan and the faces of his family during the wedding. Even now, not one member of his family has shown him support. Betty, Chuck and Billy have let their staff rum amok trashing the Sussex’s with no push back.

      They will not abdicate Harry because the institution is still praying for a divorce.

      • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

        Oh, god the faces Beatrice made at the wedding during the choir. What a disrespectful shit.

    • Lorelei says:

      @KansasGirl these are interesting points and I hope you continue to comment!!

  33. Lizzie says:

    There needs to be a serious investigation into palace hr and any complaints made by staff against the royals. Let’s see what’s been covered up all these years. They already admitted no one made a complaint against Meghan, just Williams asst stating a lie in an email.

  34. TheOriginalMia says:

    Ah, the Keens are so keen to be seen doing their zooms in the midst of the chaos they created. They are lazy and spiteful and everyone can see their sticky fingerprints all over this smear campaign. What’s that saying? When you dig someone’s grave, dig 2. William could have left Harry & Meghan alone, spreading his malice out over time. But no…he had to engage in a sustained smear campaign and it’s backfired on everybody. The Queen looks bad. Charles looks weak. The Keens and Middletons look petty, vicious, lazy, unethical and racist. Congratulations, William!

    If the warning bells aren’t ringing in the House of Middleton, then they are purposely ignoring them. William will destroy Kate if they ever divorce. He’ll toss the Middletons under the bus as well because William is a narcissist & everyone in his orbit caters to him.

    • Kalana says:

      They tried to spread it out. Meghan and Harry saw through it and kept moving away from them: Cotswolds, Frogmore, separate offices, leaving.

      William originally didn’t want the offices splitting. Then when Meghan was almost due, William started trying to rush the split.

  35. Maevo says:

    Omg I can’t believe the f*ing tights saga continues!!! Sounds like Kate cried because she didn’t like having to accommodate someone else’s wishes, not because Meghan was mean. And it does not surprise me at all that Kate and Will just go radio silent. The staff were in total shock that they were expected to work and follow up!

  36. Lowrider says:

    Another version of the Kate crying tale. At this point you have to be a complete dunce to believe it.

    Clown Tominey writing Billy is a bully who rarely shows up to the office?!? She has no credibility.

    The British royals really need to toss the Rota system in the garbage.

  37. Kfg says:

    Geez these people can’t do anything right. PWT is about to divorce Keen Kate.

  38. FancyHat says:

    I hope this is just the first story in many dragging the Cambridges. They encouraged the toxic media environment when they threw the Sussexes under the bus. W and K have some karma coming their way

    • Lowrider says:

      This article does not drag anyone but Meghan. Saying the Keens don’t show up to the office means nothing because it will not be picked up by any legitimate source. Writing that Billy is a bully will not be covered repeatedly by morning talk shows and tabloids.

      • Jais says:

        @lowrider- Yeah prob won’t be picked up in the press bc the smear campaign is v narrow in the press; they’re only after meg. Seems like it’s a little warning to those in the know though. Like we could come back to this one day…if we ever stop metaphorically stoning Meghan in the village square.

  39. Miranda says:

    It’s so funny to me that every attempted smear against Meghan is stuff that, even if true (and it probably isn’t), is so f–king trivial, or else it’s completely normal human behavior that the RF doesn’t recognize because…I don’t know, maybe they really ARE lizard people? Like the infamous wedding saga, for example. Assuming there’s even an ounce of truth in it, at worst, Meghan would’ve guilty of nothing more than low-level bridezilla behavior. The kind of stuff that, if your friend did it, you’d roll your eyes, but humor her because you love her and it’s her big day. You certainly wouldn’t cry over it, unless you were a hypersensitive, attention-seeking drama queen. (And I feel sorry for poor little Charlotte in that alleged incident. She was probably thinking nothing of it until her mom threw a fit and likely made her uncomfortable, too.)

    I also don’t get why it’s such a big deal if Meghan didn’t want to be friends with Kate. Maybe it’s Kate’s fault–I mean, come on, you don’t initiate a friendship with “my people will call your people” to schedule some sort of grown-up playdate–or maybe Meghan just wasn’t interested. Do you really HAVE to be BFFs with your sister-in-law? I absolutely can’t stand one of mine (probably for the same reason Meghan didn’t like Kate: She’s stuck-up, self-absorbed, and entitled as hell). We’re cordial at family events, but otherwise I avoid her, and it’s fine. No one is terribly invested in it.

    • ennie says:

      I think is more on the terms of “How dare she not worship at my feet? Darn newcomer!”.
      Just see the firecracker she married.

  40. Saucy&Sassy says:

    When they chose to say Meghan was bullying staff, I suspected this would only become a huge problem for them. Former employees, who are no longer at the mercy of any of the palaces, probably came out of the woodwork to talk about bullying by other members of the family. That should have been anticipated–and would have been if these people consulted legal advice before putting it out there. IMO it doesn’t matter that BP is supposedly investigating the lack of investigating. The BM has gone really hard to make it all about Meghan. That’s what the world believes it’s about. I think at this point BP should not wait a year to conclude an investigation and try to figure out a way out of this without doing more damage to the Firm.

    Also, I can’t figure out where this is coming from–the shade about W&K. Is this just the BM starting to fight back at the palaces because the US media is skeptical and have raised eyebrows? It could be PC I suppose. If he’s been letting Won’t and Kant dig their own graves (figuratively not literally), then he may be helping them along?

  41. ennie says:

    I read somewhere that these staffers were not very well paid, so I imagine that they see those “extended” periods without their bosses as a perk. The should’ve hire them for half time, then.
    I guess they were floored when they were actually expected to work, you know, having to see your boss almost everyday, poor sausages. It is not Harry’s or Meghan’s fault, I guess they do not determine how much are staffers paid, but that there are standards.
    Really all those taxes are wasted on them, paying them for standing around, most probably, raking their brains to come with five questions in years.
    Spoiled and lazy from the top down.
    I bet there might be a few saving graces.

  42. Leah says:

    My Mom’s 85yo bestie from Surrey called me yesterday just to tell me how awful Meg was and to not watch the interview. She believes that Harry has been manipulated and tricked by Meg. It took everything in me not to say, “Your racism is showing.”

    • I pet goat 2 says:

      Why didn’t you?

      • Lady D says:

        Because at 85yo, you are not changing her mind. I was at a friends for Thanksgiving one year, my friend had her great grandma (90) at the dinner. The news at the time was covering a situation in Afghanistan and she looks at me and says with all seriousness, that we should send the darkies over there and solve two problems at once. I offered to refresh her tea and found somewhere else to sit that night. I couldn’t say what I wanted to, she was too old, plus it was my friend’s home and great-grandma. I also knew I was never going to alter her attitude at 90.

  43. February-Pisces says:

    The royal family is going down screaming. Whenever any of their smears backfired, they just come back and shout it even louder, without realising how bad they actually look. And then the problem here is that they have a total lack of self awareness.

    The queen and Charles are going to go down on the sinking ship with the Keens if they continue to support their behaviour. The queen and Charles need to come to terms with the fact Willie and Keen have well and truly destroyed the image of the entire monarchy. Publicly uniting with them will damage their own legacies. People do not forget racism in history, not ever.

  44. Shoo fly says:

    1) a bridesmaid’s dress not fitting 2 weeks before a nationally televised event where that particular child will be a focus of photographs would, in fact, warrant panic and the need for immediate new fittings and demands

    2) how can anyone see the “royal household” leaking like this and particularly so identifiably and believe this is a well run functioning institution

  45. JustMyOp says:

    Mistake #1 by Meghan: Believing that work met actually working. When the RF saw that Meghan was going to actually work and get results…they LOST their minds