The Queen plans to ‘speak to senior royals behind closed doors’ about their racism

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As I suspected, the Queen’s statement gave just enough ammo to the racist royalists who are desperate to cover up the Windsor Klan’s racism. Particularly these two sentences: “The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning. While some recollections may vary, they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately.” There will be no real investigation, and that’s because no one in the family understands why it would be racist to ask Harry to consider how Black his children might be with Meghan. Because absolutely every person in that family was thinking it, and it was a subject they were likely talking about amongst themselves. “While some recollections may vary” is also royalspeak for “Meghan and Harry were lying!” As for how the Queen will “address” the racism “privately,” please meet Sherlock Petty, master detective. Liz is gonna question people behind closed doors about how they all got worked up about a mixed race woman.

The monarch will reportedly speak to senior royals – including Charles, Camilla, William and Kate – behind closed doors over the couple’s allegations.

Royal expert Richard Fitzwilliams said her response assures Harry and Meghan and the public that the concerns raised in the interview will be addressed. He told MailOnline: ‘It would always have been inappropriate to do a point by point rebuttal of claims which they made with which the Palace disagree. Since the interview reportedly runs to 3 hours, 20 minutes, it was very likely further extracts would be released which would obviously cause complications. The Queen, part of whose life’s work has been to nurture the Commonwealth, a symbol of diversity, has rightly expressed concern about the issue of race being raised.

‘As has been widely reported, the views expressed on several issues by the Sussexes were highly questionable. The Queen’s use of the phrase ”while some recollections may vary” handles this with sensitivity. We know from her Christmas messages how important the family is to the Queen. All families have their differences and difficulties and the strength of Harry and Meghan’s feeling that they had been badly treated was obvious.

A senior palace source earlier today claimed the delayed statement from the Queen was partly down to a lack of ‘trust’ between the Windsors and the Sussexes, with fears a denial without fully investigating the claims could lead to Harry and Meghan naming the person they accuse of making the comment. ‘A denial could lead the Sussexes breaking their vow and naming the member of the royal family who discussed their son’s skin colour. There is a lack of trust,’ an insider told the Evening Standard. The source added: ‘It could lead to the Sussexes naming names and it blowing up again.’

Charles is said to be ‘deeply’ concerned over the racism claims, with a source saying: ‘It goes against everything the Prince of Wales believes in. He believes diversity is the strength of our society.’ Charles’ visit is understood to have been in the palace diary for some time, although the royals may have had a suspicion about what could be discussed in the Oprah interview in advance of it airing.

Charles seemed at ease as he chatted with people waiting for their vaccinations, including one woman who said she was from Nigeria. The prince – who previously visited the church in 2007 – replied: ‘Oh fantastic, yes, I’ve been there. Lots of different ethnic groups. Do give them my kind regards next time you speak to them.’

[From The Daily Mail]

Reader, I screamed. “Lots of different ethnic groups. Do give them my kind regards next time you speak to them.” OH MY GOD. I CANNOT. I have tears running down my face, hold on. These people are so terrible and so bad at all of this. And let’s be perfectly clear – the Queen and the rest of the family are all collectively boxed in by the Sussexes, as this story makes clear. The Palace couldn’t come out and blatantly call them liars because, as they’re fully admitting, they know Harry and Meghan have receipts and the Sussexs are not afraid to name names. The thing about the Oprah interview was that it really was the tip of the iceberg. Meghan and Harry didn’t even talk about HALF of the sh-t they know, they experienced, or they were witness to. Buckingham Palace’s official position is “try not to piss off H&M in case they decide to drop receipts on us.”

“Please give my kind regards to all of the ethnic groups when you see them.”

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  1. smegmoria says:

    The New York Times has a great article today about how the monarchy has got to go.

    • GrnieWnie says:

      which is it, the editorial or the one by Hamilton Nolan? I only have 1 or 2 free articles left.

      ETA: Oh my, lol. From Mr. Nolan: “America is guilty of many crimes against humanity, but this is one thing we got right. Our presidents may be national embarrassments, but at least Americans are not required to scrape and bow before some utterly random rich wastrel whose claim to legitimacy is being the child of the child of the child of someone who was, centuries ago, the nation’s biggest gangster.”

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        OMG. DYING! That is a clean, swift deadly cut! lol

      • minx says:

        Yes, and we can rid ourselves of horrible leaders by elections.

      • Cee says:

        Same goes for my country. At least we got rid of the Spaniards (hello, Former King Juan Carlos and his scandals) and resisted TWO British invasions.

      • LillyfromLilloeet says:

        “utterly random rich wastrel”

        My life is now complete.

      • Lucky Charm says:

        Oh, that’s superb. I’m not surprised though, Nolan is an Irish name after all lol.

      • ElleE says:

        The editorial Hamilton has been gearing up for his entire career-can’t say the ever thought the British monarchy world ever get a HamNo shout-out.

        Harry’s family, and a Harry knows this, and it has to hurt, will never want to be photographed or even stand next to Archie or his sister. This is why we don’t at any tear-jerking R. Kay articles about Charles, Charlotte, etc. et al being denied access to Archie. The fact that royal reporters use the Queen and Philip’s inability to see Archie as a way to disparage Harry now seems to be because… they aren’t racist and do love and will love Harry’s children the way they love their other grandchildren??
        My mom is 100% transactional with “love” and my brother questioned my telling my girls, from an early age that “Nana has problems and can’t be a normal grandmother, she wants to be but she can’t. It isn’t you did or anything you could have done”. Maybe this seems weird to say to a 3yr old, but my oldest is 12 now and believe me, she her grandmother can’t love her the way she deserves to be loved: unconditionally. I hope Meghan has the courage to have the same conversation with Archie. It is never too early to tell a baby that not everyone is capable of loving them-they will figure it out anyway and may as well know it isn’t their fault.

      • NTheMiddle says:

        OMG… That’s pure poetry. 🔥

      • GrnieWnie says:

        I do hope we see the term “rich wastrel” appear on this site in the future!

      • Emily_C says:

        Gorgeous.

        And yes, the more history you learn, the more you learn how vile the monarchy’s always been. They’re better now because they aren’t allowed to just murder people they don’t like by the thousands any more. But talk about a low bar! They’ve got to go.

    • SarahCS says:

      Thanks for flagging this, excellent read.

    • jensays says:

      the Irish Times had an article on Monday about the interview – this is the first paragraph: “Having a monarchy next door is a little like having a neighbour who’s really into clowns and has daubed their house with clown murals, displays clown dolls in each window and has an insatiable desire to hear about and discuss clown-related news stories. More specifically, for the Irish, it’s like having a neighbour who’s really into clowns and, also, your grandfather was murdered by a clown.”
      i am dead.

      • GrnieWnie says:

        lolol. The British monarchy brings out the best in all of us who have historically been on the receiving end.

    • Where'sMyTiara says:

      A former PM of Australia was saying it’s time for Australia to become a Republic.

      The look on that woman’s face in the wheelchair – was she the one from Nigeria? With him saying “Oh fantastic, yes, I’ve been there. Lots of different ethnic groups. Do give them my kind regards next time you speak to them.’ and LOOMING over her like the colonialist POS he is?

      Look at her body language. The way she’s clutching her cane above and below. I think in that moment she was doing the mental calculus on whether she could get away with hitting him in the goolies and later pleading dementia.

      • Madelaine says:

        Your last sentence made me laugh so hard, thanks. When the Charles says “Please give my kind regards to all of the ethnic groups when you see them”, I solely hear something close to ” Won’t you hug all those poochies for me. Lovely breeds, aren’t they?” The amount of subconscious class and race condescension is just nauseating here.

    • Mrs.Krabapple says:

      But, but, but . . . the royal family will say this was an “eye opening” experience for them, and they are 100% woke now. It’s all fixed and they are even better people now (although they were great before). So the monarchy is needed now more ever.

  2. Nanny to the Rescue says:

    Do you think the palace would react differently if the Sussexes named the racist, or tell exactly what was said? Or would they still be playing this vague passive agressive game?

    • GrnieWnie says:

      on this note, I truly do not understand the argument that somehow the Sussexes must. I see a lot of British TV presenters say, well, you can’t bring up the conversation and not name the source. Uhh…yes you can? Where do people come up with these rules? It is endlessly entertaining watching the monarchy be cowed by the possibility that the Sussexes WOULD name the individual, lol.

      • LaraW” says:

        Since it seems to be a Rule now, I fully expect these presenters to name the palace sources for each story they report.

      • Amy Bee says:

        Weren’t the press doing that to Harry and Meghan all the time, now it’s wrong to not name names? GTFOH

      • MegJ says:

        Exactly. We don’t know that they haven’t named who it was to the Queen or the “HR” department, just because the didn’t say it publically doesn’t mean in the firm it’s not known.

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        Exactly. ALL of their stories have “Palace *sources*” spouting as fact, when we’ve learned more than half the time, these RRs are using *each other* as “royal sources”!!!

        Let’s see THEM “name sources” first!

      • Amy Too says:

        “You can’t bring up the conversation and not name the source” !!!!!! But, but the press does this exact same thing ALL THE TIME. it’s literally how they operate. 95% of royal reporting is all from anonymous “palace sources.”

      • pottymouth pup says:

        the source is Prince Harry who was a direct party to the discussion of his future child’s complexion. Naming the person who made the statement isn’t providing a source so the British Press can suck it big time followed up by naming their sources for every royal/celebrity story

    • Rapunzel says:

      Not naming names is quite clever on the part of H&M. It lets them say their truth while not specifically attacking anyone, so nobody can say it’s personal grievance driving them. It let’s them keep focused on the point that the institution of the monarchy was the real problem and that it’s antiquated and colonialist…which has bred racists. And it puts the onus on the specufic racist to come forward, identify himself (it seems to clearly be a he), and apologize…if said racist wants to protect the entire monarchy from being smeared. Or keep other people from being unfairly suspected of racism.

      • Becks1 says:

        I do think we are going to find out who made the comments about the skin color, because if I was a royal, and I did NOT make those comments, I would not want people to think I did. So that tidbit is going to leak sooner rather than later IMO.

      • lunchcoma says:

        I think we might not, Becks1, because it seems like the person who made those comments is one of the most powerful royals. If it were someone like Edward or Zara, they’d already be under the bus. But I don’t know that any of the less important members of the family dares make an enemy of Charles or especially William right now.

      • Becks1 says:

        That’s a good point @lunchcoma. If it was William, I dont think anyone is going to want to anger him right now – EXCEPT that it would deflect nicely from the whole “Charles refused to pay security for his son and grandson” thing.

      • pottymouth pup says:

        I, for one, am waiting for Anne to be seen in public with her finger to her nose as a “not it” sign

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        Look, who said it is down to three principal senior royals:
        Petty Betty, Chaz, and Workshy Wanderdick.

        Hazza has already said it’s not Betty.

        Charles has had zero issues in the past throwing either of his children to the lions – Diana’s funeral, and the whole “come meet my future wife the woman I cheated on your mother with” surprise luncheon.

        Is Workshy pissed his enthusiastic smear campaign is starting to finally bite him and his wife on the ass? Yes, I imagine he is. But Workshy is cackhanded, not smoothly Machiavellian like his father. He also lacks the power to cut H & M off from SO14 protection, and he has zero power to cut them off from the Royal Purse. Charles did all of that, with Betty’s backing (remember, she intervened to make sure Andrew still has SO14 status, but never did for H&M. That was A CHOICE).

        Chaz is running both CH and BP now, in terms of which courtiers are “his” creatures. That started in 2017 with the incident known as the Private Secretaries Coup. The BP statement was a declaration from Charles that he will do whatever he has to, to cover up what he did and said.

        In my mind, Sussexes need to go carefully now, but needn’t keep their powder dry out a sense of filial respect or obligation. Chas tried to get your wife and kids killed, Harry. That breaks all bargains and bonds of family-of-origin.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @”Where’sMyTiara – Workshy Wanderdick.” It does not get any better than this!

    • sunny says:

      The racist? I mean, yeah that was one specific claim but I willing to bet there was a whole host of racist incidents. Again, they gave a little in the interview but it probably was the tip of the iceberg.

    • Lyds says:

      Are you ready for this? (Of course you are)

      It’s William. (Of course you knew)

      How do I know? Reread that article. Queen is only meeting with CC and WK. Harry and Meghan implied it was a man. The article follows it up by saying how much Charles cares about ethnic people, taking great pains to imply that it could never be him!

      So who is left out in the open?

  3. Elizabeth Regina says:

    Maybe she should start with Phillip then?

  4. Lauren says:

    I can imagine the questions already “where you racist with the Sussexes? No you say? Ok send the next one in”. So out of touch with reality.

    • SarahCS says:

      I imagine them closing the door, giggling a bit, saying something about how awfully ridiculous this is but one must be seen to be paying attention to one’s subjects and then maybe telling a racist joke before they move on to chatting about horse-racing and the next meet up with the chap from Dubai who keeps his daughter imprisoned and owns half the racehorses in England these days.

    • Mac says:

      They have been publicly called out for racism. Addressing this behind closed doors just shows how out of touch they truly are. If they are going to recover from this they need to be fully transparent about how they are addressing racism among family members and within the institution as a whole.

    • leah says:

      William literally said that “racism bores me”

      You know definite eye rolling and yawning will be happening in this meeting.

  5. Snuffles says:

    Look, all Harry and Meghan want is for The Firm to leave them alone and let them live their lives and conduct their business in peace.

    But they are letting The Firm and the family know that IF you don’t, we’ve got the receipts to burn the whole institution to the ground.

    • Midnight@theOasis says:

      Truth

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      I agree!

    • pottymouth pup says:

      I think they’d also like for all those tabloid reporters & people who say they’re irrelevant to prove they’re irrelevant by discontinuing the constant scrutiny & coverage since, you know, they’re supposedly not relevant and all

  6. Alexandria says:

    I’m calling it. With this interview, Peter Morgan has no choice 😁 but to write an extra season or two. I think a scene with the Queen chewing these people and the courtiers out would be well deserved. I know you want to see that 😉

    • MsIam says:

      Agree, and not in 25 years either, lol. I want to stop be alive to enjoy it when it airs.

    • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

      PM did put out a statement saying he would NOT cover this as H&M are *still living* their story. The things he’s “telling” are things that happened more than 20 yrs. ago.

  7. Liz version 700 says:

    Hello to the ethnics?!?! Oh God Charles. Just stop. You are terrible and pretending not to be terrible.

    • Myra says:

      That’s embarrassing and incredibly racist too. How the eff is one person to give regards to all of the ethnic groups in such a populous country. I’m cringing so hard right now. Like does he think they all know each other?

      • Amy Too says:

        All black people know each other, obviously. And all of the various black ethnic groups get along, have the same goals, culture, and language, and all hang out together at black people potlucks. And someone who now lives in England but who originally came from an African country is still “technically” African and therefore probably considers Africa to be their “real home” that they will move back to at some point since they’re not “really” British enough to live in and feel at home in ad fully integrate into the U.K. *sarcasm, if that’s not clear*

      • Lemons says:

        I’ve had people seriously ask me if I know Barack Obama or Beyonce. And if you’re not serious, why pretend like all Black people know each other?

        Charles, how are you THIS bad at communicating with people of color especially in a CRISIS situation. Who is advising you?

      • Amy Too says:

        Charles is advising himself. He has had all the royal advisers replaced with mirrors.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      I bet he has a whole bunch of Black friends. His best friends, in fact. 😒

    • Gabby says:

      I know! It’s “I wish I were your tampon” 2.0.

    • Coco says:

      That had to be intentional trolling, right? He couldn’t be that clueless could he? Yes, he’s clueless about many things, but to say that after being accused of racism to an international audience…I hope the British public is ready for King Chucklefuck I.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      I read this and my mouth dropped open. Did it not occur to him to just TALK to her. He could have said something about having visited and where she was from. Ask a question or two about where in Nigeria she was from. I would have, because I’m always curious about people and I really like to learn something about other countries. Instead he said this? Wow, I think their family talk will be drinks and cribbage.

    • anotherlily says:

      “The Queen, part of whose life’s work has been to nurture the Commonwealth, a symbol of diversity, has rightly expressed concern about the issue of race being raised.”

      Diversity is not the same as equality. There was plenty of diversity in South Africa under apartheid. Equality means accepting the equal value of the different ethnic groups. This is why the question about skin colour is racist. It comes from a mindset that sees white as superior. Charles advising BAME people about the covid vaccine is perpetuating the ‘white master’ image.

  8. Silent Star says:

    I think the “While some recollections may vary” line means “We are still too stuck in our privileged white bubble to understand that our actions are racist”.

    • Alexc says:

      And how exactly would they know the ‘recollections’ might differ if they haven’t had their bogus internal investigation yet? Or was it just from their preliminary findings haha. The only point of saying it is to call H&M liars.

    • C-Shell says:

      *affixing tinfoil hat to a jaunty angle*

      From the pic of William out in his car, masked*, yesterday, and looking “tearful” (was that the Telegraph? IDK), I came up with a fantasy that he’d been fetched to someone’s office and quizzed about whether he’d had those concerns and conversations with Harry, hurting his pride and feelings. What a tool.

      *I am PISSED that Willnot and Kannot go all over Great Britain maskless and breathing on elderly residents and severely ill children, Scots, Welsh, front line workers, et al., but they pose for photo ops in their cars, wearing masks and looking pressed.

      • Duch says:

        I think they’re in cars, driving, to try to undermine Meghan’s reflection that she didn’t have her DL and keys. just a hunch. Kind of like the Flybe incident.

    • Lizzie says:

      I read this like just like trumps ‘there were good people on both sides’, speaking of white supremecists.

  9. Traci says:

    Lord help these people. LOL I am cracking up at the “do give them my kind regards” Cmon charlie!

    • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

      I’m SURE this woman will go visit relatives in Nigeria and set out to give Charlie’s regards to EACH AND EVERY person residing in Nigeria post haste!

      Ladies and Gentlemen, your future King. What an idiot! lolol

  10. Miranda says:

    Oh yes, and the moment those doors close, the meeting will be all derisive snickering and dismissive wanking gestures.

  11. Sunday says:

    “Royal expert” Richard Fitzwilliams was literally just caught bloviating about a donkey sanctuary as part of his scathing criticism of Meghan’s interview before the interview even aired, but clearly that doesn’t disqualify him from being a daily fail go-to. They probably view it as a positive; not even the illusion of accuracy is needed anymore.

    also “GIVE MY KIND REGARDS TO ALL OF THE ETHNIC GROUPS” is the single funniest, most tone-deaf “pro-diversity” statement I’ve ever heard. 5 stars, 10 out of 10 in the compassionate relatability struggle olympics.

  12. TheOriginalMia says:

    The Queen is concerned about the Commonwealth. I seriously doubt she’s worried which family member made those remarks to Harry. She probably already knows it’s William. Harry would have explained why he isn’t speaking to William. The Queen will want the leaking and sniping at the Sussexes to stop. Especially as we draw closer to her birthday and anniversary of her reign.

    Charles…deep sigh. Just stop. Want to show people you care about minorities? Give Archie & his sister a title and protection.

    • Midnight@theOasis says:

      Agree. The Commonwealth means a great deal to the Queen and she doesn’t want to see it fall apart on her watch. When 60-70% of the Commonwealth are people of color, do they not see the danger of playing these foolish white supremacy games?

      • Angelica Schuyler says:

        @Midnight, that’s the thing. They don’t see it. They really believe that people will fall for their BS just like they believed that Harry and Meghan would stick around and take a lifetime of their abuse. The royals don’t want to acknowledge that times have changed and this is 2021 and what worked in 1954 is no longer acceptable. The world is constantly changing and their refusal to change with it will be their downfall. Get your popcorn folks….the show has begun!

  13. ennie says:

    HA! they’ll roll their eyes like they did at church of all places.

  14. Becks1 says:

    I’m dying at Charles’ comment. How out of touch are these people? Say hi to the different ethnic groups?!?!?!?!?!!?

    What he could have said was – oh yes, I’ve been there, I’ve greatly enjoyed my visits. AND STOP.

    WHY WHY WHY are these people so bad at this??

    also the idea of the queen investigating racism – LOL. Start with your husband Petty Betty. (I do wonder if she doesnt know who asked about the skin color and wants to figure that out?)

    • Amy Too says:

      And the thing he remembers most about Nigeria and wants to talk about is that there were a lot of different kinds of black people there. Not the food, or the fashion, or the music, or dances, or the shops, or restaurants, or a certain person he made friends with, or a place he really liked visiting or staying, or the art and culture, or the weather, the sights and smells. No. The number one first thing that pops in his head when he hears “Nigeria” is “lots of various kinds of black people.”

    • L4frimaire says:

      The whole statement is ridiculous and so tone deaf. So what if the woman is from Nigeria, she’s not there now. Why couldn’t he ask her how long she’d been in Britain or what part of London she’s from or something more personal like how she’s coping during the pandemic. He sees these black Britons of immigrant origins as those people from over there, a curiosity and photo op. It’s really offensive to think placing him awkwardly around a bunch of black people shows he’s not racist. He’s really gotten worse with age. Charles is younger than Biden , but he is so ossified compared to someone like Biden, who is a real leader who actually does things.

    • noli says:

      i think she knows is not only one.

  15. Water Bearer. 💧 says:

    That’s what I thought. They are going to tread very carefully with the Sussexes now. They have the evidence to back up their claims. They really picked the wrong woman to mess with. She’s free now to defend herself and as we have seen Meghan can do this effectively.

    The British public may be backing the royals but their reputation abroad has been damaged especially in the Commonwealth which is majority black and brown.

  16. A says:

    I’d love to hear what she says. ‘We’ve been caught, kiddos!’?

  17. Merricat says:

    I must say that I’m enjoying this episode of Panic in the Palace.

  18. Lizzie says:

    One place to start is to stop is for news outlets to stop printing what these so called royal experts spout. They coordinate to all have the same line but as we saw last week when four of them filmed their reactions to the interview before it aired they are liars. They all said Meghan made Kate cry and it was total bs, but they all said it.
    They are not to be trusted unless they want to name sources.

  19. ennie says:

    For sure Harry must have known what were his father’s intentions of slimming down the monarchy way before getting married and having his own children, if that was what was said.
    IMO, he was probably told that when he became king or hen the children were of age, they could choose.
    Whatever Harry knew or was agreed with him, I think Harry was asking for protection for his family. We don’t know the extent of the threats and hate against Meghan and their kiddo. They were living in the Cotswolds early on, and then they had protection in Windsor. I guess the kind of official protection they receive is different than what the can receive privately, and Harry probably had trusted people who cared for him/them.
    The protection is needed because
    1) of who he is, he inherited this situation of being the son of the future king and of one of the most hounded woman on earth and
    2) The dirty campaign against them by the palace, whomever they are. They just made things worse, and escalated a racism/hate situation that could have been controllable. Now, they wash their hands off them. I just imagine that the logistics could be a nightmare that was easier to solve with the trusted protection of Crown officials. I feel for them.

    • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

      Not just that, let’s not forget the “anthrax threat” and the “race traitor” threats that WE know about. Also the absolute CRAZIES out there that threatened them (the one saying she was going to “rip the pillow baby” off Meghan when she was carrying Archie). Harry had *no choice* being born into this and was/IS entitled to protection as the son of the direct heir. Meghan and Archie… it’s more unclear, but you’d *think* seeing what happened to Diana was mirroring M and by birth, Archie… petty, petty, punitive, and petty again. Also just cruel.

      ETA one more thought: Pedo is STILL getting RPOs as son of the Monarch. When will some journalist bring this up??? What about Eddie’s kids? Are *they* getting protection? Zara and Mike and their kids? Is Anne paying for private (and we all know where Anne’s $$$$ comes from). Let’s see the answers in PRINT.

    • ennie says:

      Of course!, they won’t make them known , I think they’d stir the crazies again, but surely Charles and William know, it makes me very angry that their locations (and decisions) were leaked several times, with all that it implied.
      The tabloids must have had BIG dirt on them or on Andrew to be rewarded with Harry’s family location of all things.

  20. Amy Bee says:

    It’s clear that Harry and Meghan have receipts for everything they talked about with Oprah and for the things that happened behind the scene that were not discussed. The Palace better tread lightly because if they chose to smear Harry and Meghan, they’re not going to remain silent. As Janina said it’s a new era.

  21. Louise177 says:

    I have to laugh and cry that 5am emails and hiring a butler warrants a full public investigation but racism and sex trafficking is a private, family matter.

  22. Miranda says:

    “Kind regards to all the ethnic groups” is a masterpiece of unintentional comedy. You get the feeling that he must refer to anything more hardcore than Gilbert and Sullivan as “race music”.

    • M4lificent says:

      It reminds me of when Trump was still attempting to have press briefings, and he asked journalist April Ryan if she could set up a meeting with the Congressional Black Caucus. Because she was apparently the receptionist for every Black lawmaker in DC.

    • Emily_C says:

      Gilbert and Sullivan went hard against the monarchy. In Pirates of Penzance, the Pirate King sings:

      But many a king on a first-class throne,
      If he wants to call his crown his own,
      Must manage somehow to get through
      More dirty work than ever I do.

      At the end, they poke fun at the idea that being an aristocrat who is loyal to Queen Victoria is all it takes to totally redeem someone from a lifetime of violence.

      Except I doubt Charles would understand Gilbert and Sullivan, though they wrote simple popular music. If he did, he would find it offensive. The man’s a dunce.

  23. Catwoman says:

    I was hoping you’d report on Charles and his clear photo-op at the Jesus House. He surrounded himself with black people to me as a clear ploy to convince everyone he’s not racist. So gross and obvious.

  24. whateveryousay says:

    My God this was a mess. And that was Harry warning them you stop this crap now and if you don’t I will blow your life up. He’s done.

  25. Amelie says:

    “Kind regards to the ethnic groups of Nigeria.” What the… I can already imagine Charles sitting there with his mother looking around blankly claiming he’s never said a racist thing in his life and meanwhile, the media has him on record making microaggressive (is that a word?) statements all over the place.

    The family can deny they said or did racist things, but what they can’t deny is their silence about the racism Meghan faced from the British press. Oprah’s interview showed multiple headlines from the British tabloids that were outwardly racist (Straight outta Compton etc.). I know the screen flashed by them quickly but all these people have to do is google them. And Harry even brought up the letter signed by the female members of Parliament supporting Meghan. He called out his own family for staying silent while a bunch of political strangers Meghan had never met defended her publicly. THAT detail makes them look especially bad. Their “recollections may vary” but they have never gone on record to admit the racism aimed at Meghan and have never defended her. The only official statement that I remember came out when it was revealed Meghan was first dating Harry and Harry went on to eviscerate the press for the sexism and racism aimed at Meghan and her mother. That was Prince Harry’s statement and I can’t remember any other press office in the palace backing him up. Maybe they did, but doing it one time doesn’t give them brownie points.

    I think I remember this site talking about that initial statement in November 2016 and how it would backfire on Harry. How the press would be even more vicious, more vile towards Meghan. But honestly I think the media would have gone after her regardless of Harry trying to defend her or not. At least he tried though which is better than doing nothing.

    • Audrey says:

      I remember a clip of Camilla and Charles haughtily giggling while two native women were throat singing during their visit to Canada. They are disgusting

  26. Jay says:

    Are you telling me once Charles spoke with *gasp* a Black woman? Well, that should fix things.

    I’m dying imagining Charles giving his family members a very special powerpoint presentation on racism in the workplace:
    “Different ethnic groups is how one must refer to them, at least in public. Now, let’s try a role play…”

  27. Tim Peterson says:

    Oddly enough, Klan leaders talk to their members about their racism too. It doesn’t say she’s discouraging it.

  28. Lowrider says:

    Over privileged people are going to discuss racism. Ahahhahaaa

    Bettys statement is so dismissive. She doesn’t care.

    ENDS

  29. Serena says:

    How absolutely tone-deaf and moronic to even publish such words. So Charles talking to a black woman from Nigeria should make us think he’s not racist? Are they serious?

    This is like ‘I have a black friend so I’m not racist’. Is the PR team such a trainwreck that they can even think straight?

  30. Paperclip says:

    I honestly don’t think QE gives as many effs as people think she does. Charles, and by extension, the couriers (and Willileaks) are running 60-80 percent of the show at this point. I’m not giving her a break here or removing any accountability from her shoulders, but she’s VERY elderly and it feels like she’s kind of going along to get along with absolutely zero energy for real issues. It really is a shame. Whether she’s got 10 years or 10 months left on the throne, she could have set the tone and taken real action to effect change. Any reversals of that change and tone upon her release of the throne would’ve been seen as real steps backward and called out, too.

  31. Jay says:

    Queen: I’m not a racist, some of my best colonies are Black.

  32. Kyliegirl says:

    The RF is really not reading the room. Until they get a more diverse senior staff, the advice they are given only reflects one side of the story. This was highlighted yesterday during Charles’ visit. All his staff were white. Just because you have some white women in senior positions doesn’t mean you have a diverse staff. As a white person I was horrified, but I cannot begin to imagine how the comment about Archie’s skin color has affected POC. This is not an isolated incident with the royal family. Harry has admitted multiple times how he has had to actively learn and is still learning regarding his knowledge about racism. We all have much work to do. The statement yesterday implies the family doesn’t see how far this reaches. There was nothing about how the institution overall deals with race and their commitment to creating a more representative workplace. They can say all they want about respecting diversity, but until they start putting their words into action it all rings hollow.

    • ElleE says:

      The public is still processing this: Charles is wealthy and he told Harry before the wedding that “they” could not afford to “support”(?) Meghan and that she might want to keep her acting job too support herself as Harry wasn’t capable of doing so.
      “Support” might mean her grocery bill, travel expenses, clothes and personal security costs, I think that the interview left that pretty open. If any CB-er’s interpreted Harry’s words to mean only that are should work to pay for her own security, ok, sure.
      Maybe this was not shocking to royal experts who will say, “of course the spare heir’s wife and children would never be supported financially by the BRF!” but Harry who is actually a member of the family did appear to expect that the BRF would cover those costs.
      I was wondering if, as Meghan and Archie only got security when they went out with Harry(maybe the security details were told to only protect Harry and not his wife or baby? Idk?) maybe this explains why Meghan didn’t take the baby out for any photo ops? What way to stop anyone from kidnapping the baby and Meghan? Harry’s friend Dwight was on ITV today saying Harry’s service in Afghanistan makes puts him in more jeopardy.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “Maybe this was not shocking to royal experts who will say, “of course the spare heir’s wife and children would never be supported financially by the BRF!”

        Well Andrew sure as hell is being financially supported by the BRF!

  33. Emily_C says:

    Charles was upset that Harry was a ginger. I 100% believe it was Charles.

  34. L4frimaire says:

    The thing is there is no sense of mea culpa or remorse on the part of the royals. They’re just angry this American and their spare called them out and exposed their malignancy and frankly, abuse. When people call out abuse, they are often further attacked, while the abusers defended, especially powerful ones.I’m worried about the of the Sussexes speaking out, even though it was the right thing to do, because the attacks will never end. I feel there is an element of self protection to it because something else was probably up behind the scenes. It is having some ramifications with the press, glad Piers is fired, but it just seem like the UK a country that is going in such a right wing direction, that it will blow back on them and they will continue to be attacked. The royal family is accountable to no one but is hostage to the tabloids. The tabloids hate Meghan so they’ll keep coming for her. Meghan and Harry gave them a hard slap but they’ll double down and keep attacking them. The royals really should have more government oversight in terms of how exactly they conduct themselves in their public roles, what exactly senior royals should be doing and getting a salary like government workers, and more accountability in their hiring practices and media relations. They should be professionalized and the rest can live off their wealth and privilege, and get real jobs, without tax funding.

  35. Petra says:

    Charles talking to a Nigerian woman is some kinda of a coincidence. I was surprised at the amount of support from Nigerians on twitter for Meghan and Harry. Nigerian twitter is hilarious, the shade at the BRF are priceless. My people know enemies of progress when we see them. Charles be mugu!

  36. Kt says:

    I’m sorry but the palace / the Queen having conversations about racism seems hilarious when every jewel, dollar and piece of real estate they hoard came about from colonization and racism. The exist because they stole from others and then built themselves walls big enough to keep everyone out. No one ever needed one but it seems especially inappropriate to have a monarchy in 2021.

  37. February-Pisces says:

    If Charles has been unofficially regent for the last 5 years or so then all this has happened on his watch. Remember how he and Andrew came together to push out the queens private secretary? Also Prince Phillip retired at around the same time too. My guess is that private secretary and big Phil used to reign them in, and once he went William and Charles ran rampant with power. This is worrying as Charles has well and truly f*cked it all up. Just imaging the damage he’ll do as king. I’m still at a loss as to why Charles turned on harry like that, I know he’s as racist as the rest of them, but what were his motives?

    What the hell is the queen gonna say to them, they don’t listen to sh*t.