Dan Wootton: Prince Charles went to Wales 24 hours after his father’s funeral

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As we’ve litigated over the past month and half, Prince Harry is not only pissed off at his brother. Harry is really mad at his father too. Coming out of the Oprah interview, my impression was that Harry was truly a lot angrier with Charles than William. My take is that everyone knows William’s ill temper, his incandescent rage, his pettiness. Harry always thought that when push came to shove, Charles would protect him from William’s short-sightedness and bullying. Instead, Charles went all-in on William and refused to have Harry’s back. Still, by all accounts, Charles and Harry did have some kind of conversation after the funeral. Whether or not William was involved is debatable. But I do know Willileaks’ BFF Dan Wootton has a big exclusive about what *his* sources are telling him. Some highlights:

Charles is already in Wales: Prince Charles has left for his cottage in Wales to privately grieve the loss of his father – following an extraordinary summit with Prince William and Prince Harry immediately after Prince Philip’s funeral. I have learned the grief-stricken Prince of Wales fled to Llwynywermod in Llandovery on his own within 24 hours of his father being laid to rest. He departed after a face-to-face meeting within the grounds of Windsor Castle with his two sons, where they started the ‘baby steps’ towards a reconciliation following Harry and Meghan’s bombshell Oprah Winfrey interview.

Charles & William don’t trust Harry: In an unprecedented development that lays bare the depth of their rift, Charles and William preferred to meet with Harry together so that nobody’s words could be misconstrued afterwards. A senior royal insider said: ‘Obviously after the worldwide fallout of the Oprah interview trust has to be rebuilt. There was no official wake after the funeral, but Charles, William and Harry took the opportunity to speak and catch-up face to face after many months apart. They were only able to spend a short time together outdoors given Covid restrictions and also without staff, including senior courtiers, overhearing what was being said. It was important to Charles and William that they were both there together. It means nothing spoken about can be misconstrued in the future.’

Baby steps: Another senior royal insider said: ‘There is much pain and hurt on both sides, so this reconciliation will take place in baby steps. First, they need to decide on some ground rules as to how they conduct business going forward in a way that makes all parties feel safe and protected.’

Why Charles went to Wales: My source added: ‘Charles felt he wanted to reflect alone. He also wants to attend to the thousands of letters sent to him in condolence of his father’s death. He is acutely aware that this is a hugely significant moment in his life and he feels like he has the weight of the world of his shoulders. All his life he has been heir to throne, but Prince Philip was the patriarch of the family. Overnight that’s changed, and it’s impacted him both professionally and personally. He needs time to think and contemplate the future of the Royal Family after what was a very difficult week.’

[From The Daily Mail]

It’s really funny to me that Charles just blew up the royal reporters’ collective guilt-trip of Harry, who by many accounts caught a flight back to California on Monday. Tons of outlets already had their stories written about how Callous Harry rejected his father’s pleas to stay in England and work on the royal relations. Instead, Charles f–ked off to Wales to contemplate and so even if Harry wanted to have another face-to-face meeting with Charles, he wouldn’t be able to. Which also brings me to this question: William leaked his father’s travel, right? I mean, Wootton seems very well-informed about Charles’ movements all of a sudden. Which makes me wonder where William is at the moment, and where William was on Sunday and Monday. I bet he f–ked off back to Norfolk to check on his rose bushes.

As for the “trust needs to be rebuilt” narrative… it’s hilarious to me that it’s buried in a story in which Kensington Palace and Prince William were LEAKING to Dan Wootton. How dare Harry speak to Gayle King! Doesn’t he know the royal way, which is telling shady sh-t to Daily Mail reporters??!

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  1. Lauren says:

    Ok so full on speculation from me. Harry blew up big time in his brother and father’s face after they once again ignored the big elephants in the room and proceeded to try and guilt trip Harry. So Chuck left in a hissy fit, Baldingham is studying what to say they talked about because he knows that Harry will go on the record to set him straight.

    • Cecilia says:

      To be completely honest, I highly doubt there ever was a conversation between the 3. Dan is talking nonsense

      • Lauren says:

        I dislike the man, but this I will say, he is not a liar. He warps the truth so much that you can you can’t distinguish up from down, but there is always some truth in his articles. This due to the fact that he is briefed by KP. We have proof that all he wrote about did happen, just in a completely different order or way. That insane letter that he wrote to Baldingham confirmed this. That Bill was leaking, Dan wrote and if it didn’t happen that way he wrote oh well.

      • Alexandria says:

        I’m with Cecilia, don’t think the 3 talked much. I think he’s hanging out with Eugenie and talking to the Queen.

        I say this because I’m confident all the articles about this were pre written and then they just add some truth that can be verified. The truth here is Charles flew to Wales. That’s it.

      • Becks1 says:

        yeah DW has some very reliable sources in KP. One time on twitter I mentioned him having the story of H&M stepping back as senior royals and someone pushed back at me and said he was full of BS and I was like….but he DID have the story, that IS what happened. he printed his story about it and then H&M announced they were stepping back.

        That said, the stories around this are so contradictory that I think everyone is just kind of making it up, but not entirely. like Harry and William and Charles may have had a conversation at Windsor, but it may have just been “lovely service, I think he would have liked it, nice weather today” and that could have been it. So they “talked” but not really.

      • Lauren says:

        @Becks1exactly! DW has direct contact with KP as demonstrated by Byline Investigates. This is why I trust that there was a meeting. Now if the meeting was specially called, or if it was just them hanging around Windsor Castle after the funeral and talking who knows. I also remember DW had the Sussexit story ready to publish, but I can’t recall why he delayed it. Harry found out that the tabloids knew and since he wasn’t getting anywhere with his family he dropped the Sussexit bomb. So we know that he is deep in camp KP and he has plenty of dirty laundry to keep Baldingham in line with.

      • Mac says:

        The time to reconcile is not immediately following a funeral. Charles was clearly distraught over the loss of his father and I suspect there was just some polite chit chat before everyone departed Windsor.

      • HeyJude says:

        Yes, maybe just some pleasantries. Then moved along. Not a proper conversation in any depth about the issues in dispute.

        Seems to me Harry pretty clearly said all he needed to say to his dad in big bright lights in the interview and on the open record. And he did that all for a reason.

        I don’t believe he wants any more deeper conversation and to risk being sucked back into this circus.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      All of the RRs have contradictory stories, so I wouldn’t trust Wootton’s claims that a meeting among these three happened. There’s one claim that only Harry and Charles met, another claim that they didnt meet at all, and yet another claim that all 3 + Kate met up at FC. It’s honestly pretty chaotic.

  2. Snuffles says:

    William continues to prove he can’t be trusted. I hope Harry skips the Diana statue unveiling and stays in California doting on his new baby girl.

  3. Digital Unicorn says:

    Cain is still leaking to Wootton – its obvs as he’s William’s got to man. Wonder how much money Christian Jones’s partner is getting paid for this info. Also makes you wonder what Wootton has on William – remember this is a man who was blackmailing Philip Scholfield and basically forced him to come out.

    • Lauren says:

      Rose bushes. There are allegations that the Rose bushes affair was not an affair, but a full on relationship of three years.

    • Becks1 says:

      I think DW has some pretty strong evidence about Rose – both about the actual affair (texts? pictures?) and evidence about William’s efforts to shut down the press (more than just reporters on twitter saying “there’s a blackout”) – letters from lawyers, something. I think the combo of both would be very damaging to William.

      • Sofia says:

        My theory has been that when Wootton leaked the story, KP started panicking and asked him to kill it, he said okay as long as I get info about the royals and KP agreed, possibly because (as you’ve said) he’s got evidence of something happening.

      • Cecilia says:

        Im not familiar with aristo circles but maybe dan is among them? And therefore he knows about the rose thing. He must have something incriminating on william.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Cecilia – Dan was the one who first broke the Rose story, in a very subtle and very low key “well there is some interesting gossip in Norfolk” kind of way, so he definitely knows.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        To add to Becks1 – the BM knew about the story for a year before Wooton broke it, it was sat on until DW used it to get some leverage with Cain and Top CEO.

      • The Hench says:

        Yes, I agree – there is plenty of evidence floating around. Tom Sykes had confirmation of it from his aristo contacts, Rose’s own brother basically confirmed it, Giles Coren tweeted that ‘everyone’ knew about it and I personally have a connection two removed from Rose who confirmed it was a long-term thing. Only the British media didn’t report it – all the foreign press were going to town barely bothering with the ‘alleged’ fig leaf and litigious Wills did nothing about it. I can absolutely believe that the BM have solid evidence up their sleeve.

      • Sofia says:

        @The_Hench Have you got anymore gossip for us then? If so, let me fill my teacup…

      • The Hench says:

        @Sofia – I’m so sorry, I really don’t. It was just confirmed to me from a completely unexpected (but trusted) source that Rose and William were a three year deal. I don’t even know if it is still happening or not (although I’d guess yes given how insistently unhinged Kate’s PR is getting).

        I’ve been a keen CBer for about five years and have only had two bits of hot tea in that time. Sadly it’s probably going to be another few years at my current strike rate before I have any more!

      • Sofia says:

        @The_Hench Oh please do not apologise. You have nothing to be sorry about. I was just asking to satisfy my own gossip curiosity and just wondered if you have anything else.

        The fact that you can say with confidence it was a long term thing is plenty already!

      • ShazBot says:

        I’ve always wondered if Rose’s youngest is actually Williams.

      • Betsy says:

        @The Hench – three years?!? Holy crap. Again, I don’t want to feel bad for Kate because she’s been a full participant in the smear campaign against Meghan and Harry, but damn. That’s terrible.

        And it won’t stay a rumor forever.

      • Mac says:

        I don’t think anyone in the BRF needed to be blackmailed into leaking about Harry and Meghan. They hated her for being Black, American, smart, and ambitious.

      • The Hench says:

        @Sofia, @Betsy – all I can add is that there were three of us talking – myself and the source to a third person who had no idea about the affair. When the three year thing was confirmed I said “so that’s why all the negative stories started in on Meghan at that time – to help cover up the story” and the source nodded vigorously.

      • Becks1 says:

        I saw a comment on twitter that the affair was hot and heavy up until the pandemic when the UK went into lockdown. But who knows how true that was/is?

        but 3 years makes sense, from either way you count it – from now (so it started in 2018, when Kate was pregnant with or had just had Louis and around the time of the wedding), or from a year ago (2020, so it started in 2017). Or if went on for three years and started in 2016 – that puts us to 2019, with the rural rival story, and we obviously know the smear campaign really started in late 2018, so that timing fits too.

      • The Hench says:

        @Becks1 – yes, you make a good point that the timing of the affair and the timing of the PR deflection are two different things. When the story ‘broke’ with the rural rival thing in 2019 the background rumours at the time were that it wasn’t a new thing. It just suggests that late2018/early 2019 was when the media beast started stirring so the smear campaign kicking off late 2018 would make sense as a deflection and/or payment for the story being a rural rival one and not a full-blown William-is-shagging-the-Marchioness-of-Cholmondely one.

        It makes sense that Twitter is right about the pandemic putting the brakes on it – aristo blind eye or not, it’s trickier to conduct an affair when everybody is in lockdown and you are permanently holed up with your wife and kids with no good reason to leave the estate and eleventy lots of Zoom calls to do in lieu of work. So my bet would be late 2016 to latish 2019 – the weird church pap walk with Kate and family at Sandringham was 6th Jan 2020. Perhaps that was to mark the agreement that it was all over? Or perhaps it will all resume once we come out of lockdown??

        ETA The Mirror had this weird story in July 2017 ostensibly about Harry attending his first state banquet but actually all about Rose, who he was sitting next to. The sub headline was: “Rose Hanbury has become a firm friend of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge over the years – and even owns property right next door to the Royal couple”. After Penny Knatchbull we all know what “firm friend” means. I think the media have known for years…

      • Dilettante says:

        @ShazBot, I’ve wondered the same thing. Rose had already done her duty by the Marquess, producing an heir and a spare so it was play time (for both of them).

      • Sofia says:

        I agree re timings: late 2016 to late 2019 or even early 2020. Allegedly (can’t remember where I heard this, may have been on this site), Kate was told not to have sex when she was pregnant with Louis (idk how someone would get that info since it is pretty private and not something you share) which could have caused William to go “I’ll go look for sex elsewhere” and enter Rose.

        Affair starts and Kate finds out about it. I have two theories. She finds out some time in 2017 or suspects Rose hence the daggers she was sending towards her at the state dinner in 2017. Or she finds out around the time she gives birth to Louis hence her snapping at Meghan (perhaps Harry’s love for Meghan reminded her that William had just spent months betraying her while she was carrying his child). I remember an article getting pretty freaked out about the note Kate sent Meghan and the thought of Meghan revealing it.

        It’s possible she could have hinted about something in said note. I doubt it’s “William is cheating on me so I’m upset” but something like “I’m dealing with some personal issues right now”. If Kate said that and it’s revealed she did, people will start theorising what she meant by that.

        Once Meghan marries Harry, she eventually becomes the latest person for the aristos to turn their nose up at. Kate probably mistook it as the aristos accepting her because she wasn’t the royal woman currently being mocked by them openly and as frequently as before. Possibly gave her the confidence to ice Rose out (which she couldn’t do before).

        Then the media finds out eventually. Not completely sure about the timelines there because tbh, a lot of things happened around fall 2018 that kickstarted the smear campaign but they do. Wootton writes the rural rival story, KP panics and asks him to kill it, he does but in return he wants leaks and inside access to palaces. KP agrees.

        Now back to icing out Rose, Kate makes an attempt but it’s fails because Rose is queen bee, her husband has a senior role in the royal household and Rose has aristocratic ties and Kate does not. This annoys the toffs greatly due to reasons above.

        There’s a church walk on Kate’s birthday. The Chumleys attend. Rose doesn’t seem too happy. But the vibe I got was a “this is all over. Move on like we’re moving on”

        Tatler calls up to give Kate a cover. Kate says no to posing but gives the green light for a few sources to speak because again, Kate probably thought she was accepted the aristo magazine wouldn’t say anything negative. The aristos find out and decide they want revenge on Kate. Hence the bitchy and the aggressive quotes about Kate and her family. KP has a freak out and demands Tatler removes the story. They don’t. For now. But they eventually do with the Rose mention being the first to go, weeks before everything else. Why Tatler budged months later? I don’t know but it’s possible they want to continue having a good relationship with the royals (but then why write a bitchy article in the first place?)

        This is my theory of how it all went down. I have no inside sources so am going off on what’s happened so far and what other people have said.

      • Plums says:

        idk, even if affairs are “expected” from these stupid, parochial, inbred assholes in the british uppercrust, and Kate understood and accepted that going in (because for some unfathomable reason she wanted this life instead of the anonymous life of a trophy wife to some anonymous billionaire where she’d be free to be as lazy and holiday-oriented a Lady who Lunches as she clearly deeply wishes she could be), it still feels just like…innately, inarguably tacky to have a full blown affair with a next door neighbor family friend. Like, have a thing with a party girl at The Club or whatever. Don’t eat where you shit. It’s so disappointing how like his father William turned out to be.

    • aquarius64 says:

      So Wooten’s brand of “journalism” is a protection racket?

    • Midge says:

      The “silent contract” – you throw Harry under the bus and we won’t write about you in a negative light. Give us something

    • Nic919 says:

      This is it. Wooten has the full affair story which is more than we know and he’s using that as leverage to get other royals stories, but in particular about Harry and Meghan. So this is coming from William.

  4. Elizabeth says:

    “Cottage” is what we are calling a three-bedroom farmhouse (very sizable from the pictures) on a 192-acre estate now?

    But they couldn’t afford security for Meghan. Hmmm.

    • Chaine says:

      Right? How many houses does this guy have. This is the first I heard of this one so it must sit there for years on its own just waiting for his occasional visits.

      • Amy Bee says:

        @Chaine: Charles has a least 6 houses all over the UK. He stays at his Wales house when he does his yearly visits to Wales known as “Wales Week”. That usually happens in the early summer.

      • Ainsley7 says:

        Charles has three “private” homes (Clarence House, Highgrove, and the one near Balmoral) and then a bunch of “vacation” houses that he allows other people to use when he isn’t there. He’s even got a few outside the UK. Harry’s been known to frequent his places in Romania.

    • equality says:

      But how many bathrooms does it have and how much is it worth? Isn’t that essential information? It is with H&M.

  5. Becks1 says:

    Yeah, William ran to dan wootton as fast as he could to leak his father’s plans. Or maybe Charles leaked himself, who knows, but I feel like DW is more William’s go-to than Charles’.

    And yeah, its interesting that I think this is supposed to be negative towards Harry but it does blow up any potential guilt tripping – there was no need for Harry to stay to talk to his father because his father left.

    LOL at “they both had to be there so the conversation isn’t misconstrued.” Meaning, so that if William asks Harry about the skin color of Baby Girl Sussex, Charles is there to back him up that “it wasn’t mean in a RACIST way!”

    • Harper says:

      Their post-Oprah campaign to brand Harry as confused and misinformed and Meghan as a liar is going full blast.

    • Myra says:

      Charles asking William to join in as second witness to the conversation is like Dailymail asking Wikipedia to authenticate its story. We don’t trust either of you for accurate, truth-telling and retelling of the event. I would need a date and timestamped video with clear audio of Charles and William (no editing), along with a digital forensic investigator to confirm authenticity, and even then…

    • ShazBot says:

      It consistently infuriates me that the conversations are all “they don’t trust him and the relationship is fractured because of the Oprah interview and him talking to Gayle King” and not…ALL THE THINGS THAT LED TO THE OPRAH INTERVIEW OMG. This straight absolute lack of acknowledgement of what Meghan and Harry went through is utterly disgusting.

  6. Lizzie says:

    Wooten needs to name sources full stop. No more ‘senior advisor’, say their name or its cowardly Charles and Baldy.

  7. Cecilia says:

    So they don’t trust harry but its fine for them to leak to dan wootton of all people that there was a private convo? The windsors sure do love their double standards

    Just for the record, i don’t think that their actually was a conversation mainly becUse charles’ and williams ego are so big and because at this point i don’t think harry cares.

    But its fascinating how the press can follow the same playbook over and over again and nobody questions it.

  8. ABritGuest says:

    Imagine having to work with a gossip as sleazy and horrible as Dan Wootton? Certain royals are trapped indeed.

    The reporting is a contradictory mess- they have no idea what’s going on clearly which suggests Harry’s actually had limited contact with the leaky palaces.

    • JT says:

      Nobody on that island has damn clue what happened, not with fifty-leven versions of said meeting in the papers. They don’t even know where the hell Harry is, how would they know who he spoke to? I won’t believe there was a meeting until it appears in the American press I guess.

    • Alexandria says:

      How are they trapped when they are so privileged? I say they are trapped because they have secrets to hide. If they didn’t have secrets to hide these rats wouldn’t be able to work with this “family”. So they reap what they sow.

  9. Sofia says:

    Yeah I was coming here to say the fact that this came from Wootton (who btw was the original writer of the rural rival story) suggests to me that William could have leaked this to him. And as I said in another post, I don’t really blame Charles for not wanting to have an emotional chat during an emotional time for him.

    • cassandra says:

      Yeah the man lost his father, who by all accounts he had an incredibly complicated relationship with. I don’t blame him for wanting to hole up somewhere for a bit.

  10. Merricat says:

    I am inclined to think that Charles went to Wales to privately confront his destiny. It’s been a long time coming. I hope when he returns, he’ll be ready to take his heir in hand and mend fences with H and M.

    • Betsy says:

      I would like to think so. The monarchy is so much worse for being stuck with lazy Prince William.

      This leak just doesn’t sound like Charles – this sounds like William trying to get his father totally in his corner. Charles doesn’t usually leak his movements; he would just announce it.

  11. aquarius64 says:

    Yep. Dan Rotten (to the core) got his intell from Billy the Bully. He and Chuck wanted to be in the room together because they don’t trust Harry? Nice dig about the queen backs them up about Harry.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Chuck and Cain are masters of projection – my take is that is this happened is was Harry who asked for them both to be in the same room at the same time as he doesn’t trust them.

  12. ThatgirlThere says:

    Charles created this mess. Raising a brat son in William and throwing his youngest son and daughter in law to the BM wolves. All he had to do was defending Meghan and stop the disgusting lies spewing. But instead he allowed his ego to take over. And here we are.

  13. Osty says:

    The irony or Charles and wills claiming they dont trust harry to not tell his “friends ” what they discuss by telling dan wooton that and everything they discussed

  14. Lemons says:

    I think Charles is just tired of his family. They lost their patriarch who was in many way the person at the steering wheel. While Philip has checked out of that role for a while, his presence was still felt. But now he’s really gone.

    If Charles is reading the press or getting any updates from his staff, he’s tired of Queen Keen, he’s tired of Willileaks not being a man and allowing his commoner wife and mother-in-law to usurp the heirs. He’s tired of hearing about the H&M situation. And above all, he’s grieving his father and probably truly feeling the mortality of his mother and himself.

    I honestly would do the same to get my head right. I hope that he returns a better man.

    • Brielle says:

      Lol…It’s Charles’s fault :he is weak and he is also is leaking to the tabloids during ‘grieving times’….

      • Lemons says:

        I mean, yeah. This is ALL on him. And I hope spending some pseudo-alone time will help him see that.

      • Brielle says:

        You are a good person and you probably are projecting what you would have done…but Charles the one who thinks that it was ok to pull Harry’s security knowing that two white supremacists are in jail cause they threatened his life,and that powder things,and all these deranged haters who stalk everything that the Sussexes do….yeah not that Charles…

    • The Hench says:

      One would also imagine that he is tired to the back teeth of Kate being held up as the perfect heir to the Queen whilst his own wife (and the ACTUAL future queen) is ignored. Not to mention how Kate and Carole are also taking the credit for ‘peacemaking’ within the family, effectively undermining his authority. They even had Kate kissing him hello to ‘comfort’ him.

      I think Carole is playing a dangerous game. Charles may be an emotional coward when it comes to dealing with his sons but he is a canny PR operator as we have seen with the redemption of Camilla over time. I wonder how long either him or William are going to allow the Middletons to belittle them and suggest that Keen Kate is the only reason the Royal house is still standing?

  15. Over it says:

    So they tagged team Harry, double bullies Chucky and baldy are. They don’t want their words misconstrued. Ha, well maybe don’t say racist unhinged shit to Harry and he won’t misunderstand what they did in fact say to him. It amazes me how they want free reign to continue to destroy and control his life through the press and in private but Harry should definitely just sit there and take all their shit they try to bury him under for the rest of his life. Harry has a wonderful woman in Cali. A mother in law that respects and adores him and a son that thinks he hung the moon. He doesn’t need to take abuse from his father and brother. I hope he is back home in Cali.

  16. Over it says:

    Dan Wooten is like a dog in heat, I wish someone would snip him already.

    • Brielle says:

      A girl said that Dan was hitting on her boyfriend who was underaged at that time and asking for naked pictures….this man is super gross but Andrew is still there…it seems that pedophilia is not a big deal in the UK

  17. Harper says:

    Wonder how Charles felt waking up to see his whereabouts publicized with such exacting detail? Did he know it was coming or is he just now realizing that with Harry’s gun cocked and loaded that the Willileaks monster is coming for him now? Dan Wooten’s new high-profile position at the Mail and his need for exclusives is going to cause a lot of trouble.

  18. Seraphina says:

    Charles needs to reflect alone is the only sentence I am buying. He too is not getting any younger and he needs to reflect on what a piss poor job he did as a husband and as a father. But that will not happen.

    • Brielle says:

      Did he reflect when Diana died? No,his mouthpieces like Penny Junor was saying the most hurtful things about her…Charles like William has the biggest ego ,God put them there so….

      • Seraphina says:

        Sometimes, as people reach a certain age where they know the end may be closer, they become reflective and do some true soul searching. I seriously doubt Chucky will do any of this. Because as you stated and I have stated before, when one believes God put you here, why on earth would soul searching be necessary.

      • Brielle says:

        Exactly Seraphina…you like Lemons are optimists and good persons so you project what you would have done…Charles is just a manipulator,an egoistical individual(him,Camilla),a heartless man

      • Seraphina says:

        @Brielle, you are much to kind, but thank you. We are all human and prone to act not so well at times. But Charles is something else.

  19. Amy Bee says:

    It’s important to remember that Harry’s plans to live part time in North America was emailed to Charles and then somehow ended up in Sun newspaper with a Dan Wootton byline. So Charles is not innocent in this leaking game. I think one of the reasons why there are so many conflicting stories is Harry hasn’t talked to William and Charles. As for the lack of trust, if anyone has a right to be mistrustful it’s Harry and him alone.

    • JT says:

      Projection once again. This makes sense. I said something similar on the other story. Harry hasn’t actually spoken to them, so they are leaking that THEY were the ones to decline a conversation with HIM.

    • Brielle says:

      Imagine that:he told his father he wanted to talk to him cause he was afraid that his plan would be leaked’ his father didn’t bother to take his calls anymore so he wrote him an email which finally leaked and who really should have trust issues?
      After that he came back,neither his dad,his brother or his adored grandma had personal with him,they let him negotiate with aides…

  20. S808 says:

    Concerned about Harry but giving Dan Wooten a play by play…….Dan’s truly got William by the balls. He must have some truly damming evidence of the affair.

  21. Izzy says:

    Honestly, if Harry wants to leak to Gayle, he just needs to have her also point out that HARRY is not the one with the leaking problem: how they are gaslighting him, that at least he has the spine to say things and own it, unlike the leaks to Dan Rotten and Co., and then challenge the RR to name their sources to prove her wrong. Change that narrative, and repeat this challenge as often as needed.

    • JT says:

      Is it leaking if you put your name on it though? Because to me, Harry didn’t leak anything to Gayle, he merely corrected the record. I think it might be a case of Harry having more credibility than them because he was willing to go on the record. This might be why they are so pressed about him going to Gayle. That and she is a legitimate journalist, with the American press on her side and therefore more influential. He doesn’t hide like they do. I think their need to leak through sources makes them look weak. It makes them look like they are scared of Harry, in my opinion. Why can’t they put their names on their sh*t otherwise?

    • Amy Bee says:

      When Harry talks to Gayle, that’s not leaking, he only confirming or denying what has been printed by the British press. He’s not hiding behind sources like Charles and William.

    • FC says:

      I agree, EVERY confirmation going forward should mention the gaslighting. “We are releasing this statement to correct a maliciously incorrect story that we believe was fabricated by the Palace…”

    • Brielle says:

      I prefer someone putting his name on something rather than ‘my palace sources’

  22. equality says:

    So we are supposed to believe that Charles is going to read the thousands of letters he received?

  23. Pepperpot says:

    Stop the sympathy for Charles. He is just as low and dirty as Will. Both their teams feed the beast for their own benefit.

    Will aligning himself with Richard Kay and Dan Wooten is filthy. He definitely getting ready to do something.

    • Brielle says:

      Totally…I cannot understand why people are so adamant at Harry talking with Charles…Charles out his life and his family’s life in danger…He is as trash as William who started the smear campaign

  24. TheOriginalMia says:

    William has to feed the beast. Wonder what Dan has on him now.

    Anyhoo, it’s obvious William has no information on what Harry is up to or has done. He doesn’t know and certain parties aren’t clueing him in. Therefore, he gives up Charles’ location.

    I doubt Harry used this week to reconnect or work on his issues with William. Futile exercise. As sensitive as Harry is, he would understand what Charles is going through and wouldn’t press him either.

    • Alexandria says:

      I agree completely. I don’t think Harry came back to have a peace summit, he came back to pay respects to his grandfather. He knows Charles and the Queen are grieving. As for all these supposed leaks could be:
      1) other staff trying to make quick money
      2) pre-written articles about what went down (anyone with imagination and common sense can write them)
      3) Charles was tired and grieving but just threw them a bone to shut them up before he went to Wales to escape. See what happens when you work with scum, Chuck? You can’t even grieve when you want to. Good luck!

      As for TOB he’s gonna do what he’s gonna do. Harry probably can’t be arsed to shout at him because the focus is on his grandfather. Harry has said what he said. The ball is in their court.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        Your #2 point sounds about right Alexandria. For DW to write it was an extraordinary summit and then say there wasn’t much time for them to spend time alone together due to Covid and not wanting courtiers, aides to overhear(which is really funny coming from a tabloid writer) and then Kate joined them at some point is all pretty laughable. I think the extraordinary was more like extra ordinary in that no real conversations took place like they were hoping. I’m guessing the main point of DW’s article was to say that Charles & William don’t trust Harry and the Queen too!
        The truth is probably more like they wanted to talk to Harry and he told them not unless his attorney was present because he doesn’t trust them.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      I tend to think that Dan has more than Rose bushes on Cain, things that are much more damaging than one or several affairs.

    • Betsy says:

      I would laugh hale and hearty if Harry was in Wales with his father, actually talking and reconnecting away from Baldimort and his leaking mouth.

      • TheOriginalMia says:

        @DU, yeah, I suspect Dan has a lot more than rose bushes on William. He’s an ass, who wouldn’t think twice about being messy because he knows his messiness will be protected. Arrogant position, but that’s Baldimort.

        @Betsy, I would cackle. Loudly!

  25. Phoenix says:

    I am sure that Harry’s ground rule on how they will conduct business going forward is STOP LEAKING TO THE PRESS lol
    And I am pretty sure this comes from William. With that love letter Dan wrote to Willie it made it so obvious that he is in camp Cambridges.

  26. Lizzie says:

    The rf live in a media bubble with the dm reflecting what they want everyone to believe is real. They are too insular to understand most of the world, if they even known dm exists, sees the dm as a cross between tawdry Enquirer and right wing fox style ‘news’. Until they get smart advice that is where they will stay and one day be shocked to find they have zero appeal or popularity.

  27. FC says:

    I guess Charles doesn’t care about the queen’s birthday then. Looking forward to all the negative stories about Harry skipping it though.

  28. NotSoSimpleTaylor says:

    I think Harry left Saturday evening and I think he’s already back in quarantine in California. I don’t think Harry really plans to make any announcements regarding his departure or arrival back in Montecito. I think Charles wanted him to stay in the UK longer and when he didn’t, he went to Wales to think.
    I don’t think Charles is as all in on the monarchy as people believe so it will be interesting to see what comes out of his reflections and contemplations in the coming weeks. I do think dealing with William is wearing Charles out.

  29. February-Pisces says:

    I really hope harry is back home already. If harry was still here and Charles f*cked off to wales after not seeing his son for a year then he really is the worst father ever, but we will never know for sure seeing as it came from Willie and his fav mouth piece desperate dan.

  30. Robin says:

    And then back a couple of hours later because they had the good sense to want nothing to do with him!!!

  31. Isabella says:

    So where did the story about Harry and Charles planning to look at the funeral flowers together come from? The DM doesn’t even admit that never happened. Just, Charles is off to Wales!

  32. Phoenix says:

    Just saw that article about Dan and thanks!
    The disturbing letter he wrote to Willileaks sounded to me like he is blackmailing him. Sure, the letter was in William’s favour but I kinda felt like Dan was a bit…like making fun of William.
    And the Dan probably has something very shady over Willie. It could be more than an affair. A love child, may be? Who knows…Dan knows! Lol
    But it was William’s decision to trade with the Devil. Now he has to feed him with stories.

  33. A says:

    So it sounds to me like Charles just gave Harry the run around, yet again. But, I will say, there are some glimmers of possible truth in this article. One, the fact that they had to have the discussion without anyone overhearing them (I wonder who leaked to the press then, hMMMMM). Two, I fully believe that Charles did take off to Wales to find some quiet cave within which he can meditate on the loss of his father, and attend to all the correspondence he’s received. I don’t think he’s going to be spending a lot of time thinking abt how he can patch things up with Harry, as much as he’s going to sit around feeling sorry for himself, the same as always. I don’t deny that he probably is grieving the loss of his father, and that it’s hit him hard in a very unexpected way. But he’s going to be spending the majority of his time shopping his hagiography going forward, rather than doing any substantive work on any of the emotional components of his life.

  34. Carolind says:

    Sorry but for all his faults I like Charles and I don’t think he has a huge ego. He was shy and lacking in confidence as a boy.

    Their lifestyle and manoeuvring are things I don’t understand but I think Charles let William get away with murder and William treated him like dirt. Ignoring him in public, cosying up to the Middletons (Carole Middleton is “common”) and saying he preferred his grandmother’s way of doing things to his father’s and Charles has done so MUCH. Charles held all the cards with William I.e. money and whether to make him Prince of Wales and yet he let W rule. When Meghan hit the scene Charles was definitely a lot closer to her and Harry than he was to William and Kate then it all got nasty.
    He was the most genuinely, visibly upset at the funeral and he is now the patriarch. He does need time to grieve.
    Part of the problem is W and K won’t work and there is nobody now of their own generation to support them.

    By the way I had never heard of this Dan guy and now his articles are everywhere.