Duchess Kate found Meg ‘quite intimidating’ & Kate still insists Meg made her cry

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The Middleton PR machine rolls on and they’re going to put us in a diabetic coma from all of this sugar. Camilla Tominey has a new piece in the Telegraph about how Kate’s diamond-and-pearl-encrusted preening at the funeral was “the quiet making of a future queen.” Which reminds me that literally no one has written anything about how quiet and dignified the Duchess of Cornwall was at her father-in-law’s funeral. Duchess Camilla is the future queen and she managed (quite easily) to not make everything about herself. Duchess Camilla doesn’t need to tell every media outlet that she’s amazing and a future queen and all that. Kate does need that. Which is interesting. Anyway, Tominey had some, um, interesting thoughts.

Thrown under the bus: Despite having effectively been thrown under a bus by the Duchess of Sussex’s suggestion that she had made her cry during a bridesmaid’s dress fitting – and not the other way round – it was Kate who was the first in the 30-strong congregation to engage Prince Harry in polite conversation following the 3pm ceremony at St George’s Chapel. Having repeatedly looked over at her brother-in-law, seated opposite, during the 50-minute service while both William, 38, and Harry, 36, buried their heads in their orders of service, the woman once cruelly dubbed “Waity Katie” showed just how much she shares what Prince Philip once described as the Queen’s “abundance of tolerance”.

Kate soothed William’s seething: Willingly playing the role of peacemaker, she tried to carve a path to reconciliation between the Royal brothers. It is no secret that William is still seething over Harry’s suggestion that both he and their father, the Prince of Wales are “trapped” in a “racist” and “bullying” Royal Family. Yet having gained a formidable reputation for keeping calm and carrying on in the face of a royal crisis, Kate did what she has always done as she has failed to put a foot wrong since she first arrived in the House of Windsor almost 10 years ago to the day: she rose above.

Ah, it was all choreographed: Subtly moving aside after she had broken the ice to allow her husband and brother-in-law to finally walk in a pair, Kate gracefully helped to engineer the rapprochement the world had been waiting for. And while it may all have been choreographed knowing the cameras would be trained on the trio who once carried out so many public duties together, it helped to soften the negative narrative around the brothers’ feud – turning what could have been a strained scene into something much lighter.

The Sussexes were demanding: Talk of a “Windsor summit” may well be overblown, but it is unthinkable that they did not discuss the fallout from the Sussexes’ outpouring to the US chat show host, having not seen each other face to face in more than a year. It is not just the suggestion that an unnamed Royal had questioned Archie’s skin tone that continues to bristle, but the Sussexes’ insistence that they were not being supported – contrary to the Royals’ belief that they “bent over backwards” to accommodate the needs and desires of the independently-minded and sometimes demanding couple.

Kate admits that she was intimidated by Meghan?? The chasm between the introverted Home Counties girl and the extroverted star of US legal drama Suits appears to have widened when a distinction was made between Kate marrying into the Firm as an “unknown” and Meghan already having a profile. According to one Palace insider: “They were not only very different women with very different personalities but very different women who came from very different places. Kate spent 10 years as a girlfriend learning the ropes. Everything happened much more quickly with Harry and Meghan, who entered the Royal scene with her own, fully-formed ideas. I think Kate found her quite intimidating.”

What the actual f–k is this. Harry would have also been acutely aware of how hurt and embarrassed intensely private Kate would have been by Meghan’s retelling of the intimate events leading up to their May 2018 wedding – which have been met by stony silence from camp Cambridge. (Close aides continue to insist that Kate was left in tears, as originally reported by this newspaper.)

The magnanimity of Keen: [Harry] also cannot fail to have respect for his sister-in-law’s magnanimity in not only being willing to forgive and forget, but also in trying to foster the same spirit of compassion in their nearest and dearest. The parallels between unflappable Kate and Harry’s famously conflict-avoiding grandmother are becoming increasingly uncanny….Far from drawing a veil over the conflict that has plagued the monarchy for over a year, Kate’s sacrifice in the face of public duty on Saturday put her in the frame as a Queen in waiting like never before.

[From The Telegraph]

Again, the Middleton PR is that William is a rage monster, constantly seething and incandescent and engorged with rage. The Middleton PR is that only Kate can soothe him and only Kate can reconcile the brothers. What’s fascinating is that… if Meghan had been able to travel to the funeral, all of this would have been so different. Kate would have had zero magnanimity or grace. Kate would have been scowling and pouting and she wouldn’t have even spoken to Harry. And yes, Kate DID find Meghan “quite intimidating.” Meghan’s beauty, intelligence and work ethic scared the sh-t out of Kate and the whole Middleton clan, which is why they organized so many of the smears, smears like “close aides continue to insist that Kate was left in tears.” We’re still going to be talking about crying at a bridesmaids’ fitting in 2025, I hope everyone knows that.

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  1. Osty says:

    We all know she was intimated by Meghan that’s why she did everything to make her life miserable.

    • Kalana says:

      Fragile white woman intimidated by the biracial Duchess Meghan. Kate is the perfect role model for her fans at least.

      After that creepy cover with Camilla staring down Meghan, racist white women clearly see Kate as a proxy for themselves. The BRF is a symbol of white supremacy right down to the honors for an empire that doesn’t exist. Any desperate climber like Camilla who was even willing to attack Virginia Giuffre will of course champion a user and climber like Kate.

      • Levans says:

        Ding ding! Was Meghan intimidating or was Kate intimidated?

        We all know it was the latter because fragile, lazy, dull white women will always be intimidated by a dynamic black/biracial woman.

      • Seraphina says:

        @Kalana and @Levans I believe that regardless of Meghan’s race Kate would have been intimidated by her. Meghan is accomplished, has a great work ethic, has empathy and a husband who adores her and is in love with her. That alone is enough to intimidate Kate and make Kate dislike her. Now, add the fact that Meghan is not their “English white rose” things got super nasty. Make no mistake, I’m not trying to diminish the fact that racism played a big part in what happened.

      • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

        Seraphina, you posted MTE before I had a chance. Kate would be intimidated by ANY woman marrying Harry who had a fully formed, successful WORKING life, one who had intelligence (book learned and real world experience), and who really could (AND DID) “hit the ground running”. Meghan did more in her first year (pre/post wedding) than Kate did in her first TEN years.

        Meghan scared the living sh!t out of Kate.

        Also add in the jealousy factor (Meghan’s dress/accessorizing style – of which Kate has NONE) and mostly the fact that Harry is HEAD OVER HEELS in love with his wife, adores the ground she walks on, he *listens* to her, RESPECTS her, enjoys BEING WITH her… ALL the things our Top Keen Guevara is lacking from the prize she bagged… and you bet your @$$ she’s “intimidated”. She was scared sh!tless by Meghan’s existence.

      • Seraphina says:

        @ (The OG), yes! Meghan TERRIFIED Kate. And there cannot anyone who overshadows the FFQC.
        It must sting to see how Harry is with Meghan and compare that to Wills.

      • Becks1 says:

        Agree with OG and Seraphina. Meghan was really the perfect storm for Kate. She graduated from Northwestern, which took away from Kate her only real accomplishment – having a degree from a well-regarded university. Factor in the glam factor, her charisma, her work ethic – its like what the VF article in the other post mentions – those things all made Kate look bad, and she knew it.

        Factor in that it was a Black woman who had that whole package, and Kate could not handle it.

      • Dilettante says:

        All of this Seraphina, The OG, and Becks 1!!

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        Yes to everything above. Meghan outshone Kate in every way. So I think Kate was not only intimidated, but jealous too. Meghan looks younger, fresher, more stylish. Meghan is smarter, better educated, harder working, has real ideas and initiatives. Meghan has a husband who adores her, and is willing to let it show in public. By comparison, Kate dresses like Barbara Bush Sr., has terrible skin, needs work and botox on her face, yet still looks 10 years older than she is, does barely any work at all, asks whether one can test the smell of tea by smelling it and whether they still make Faberge eggs in Russia, has a husband who walks away from her with their umbrella leaving Kate alone in the rain, doesn’t care if her patronages go under, and does nothing but shop and play costume dress-up.

      • Madelaine says:

        @Levans: CopyCath was intimidated because she is impressionable, like most people with no discernible skill or talent of their own can be, every time they find themselves in front of someone who is the polar opposite to their fecklessness. However, if that someone happens to have a drop of black blood, her intelligence is dismissed as scheming malice, her beauty as devilish temptation and her articulateness as foul mouth. In this respect, KateKaren is the very embodiment of the colonial rationale that downgrades every black or bi-racial person’s gift into grift.

      • Lyra says:

        Wow she attacked Virginia? She is vile. Horrible woman. How can someone like her sleep alright at night?

    • Soupie says:

      @Seraphina, true of all you mentioned. I think the nail in the coffin was, H&M were rapidly shaping up as the absolute stars of the royal family and no one wanted that, especially not Kate. Thank God Harry wasn’t the first born, because he was able to opt out. I really wonder if he would have anyway if he were the first born. And it really chaps certain members of the royal family that H&M continue to get more opportunities and popularity – even while being torn to pieces by some factions. Carole and Kate and their supporters can’t stand the fact that they aren’t winning and will not win.

      • Seraphina says:

        @Soupie, I have no doubt things would have been very different if Harry were first in line for that throne of horrors. We have all said it and so did Harry, the BRF and The Firm could have had a wonderful, charismatic, articulate, intelligent woman – a biracial woman – to help lead them into the future. And with Harry next to her, who knows what they could have accomplished. The BRF threw gold away and opted for fool’s gold. Hope it pays off in the end (not really – I hope they get karma :)

      • Bess says:

        But the truth is, Will and Kate are in in line to be King and Queen of England. It’s all determined by birth order and though Harry has more charisma and is a people person, he was born second.

        There was no reason for Willam and Kate to trash Harry and Meghan.

    • Myra says:

      It was very obvious. She has now remodeled herself as a Meghan 2.0, after a decade of trying to be Diana 2.0, unsuccessfully. Thankfully, she has the weight of the ‘white’ wing media behind her. She will be the grandest queen of all the queens that has ever queened, all because a black biracial woman showed her up.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        Right Myra!(and posters above). What Meghan (and Harry) do, and are authentically, threaten the core of W & K’s fakery. I think this relentless wrongful pushing narrative of Meghan making Kate cry is a deflection of bigger things. IMHO-I believe that the Oprah interview doesn’t bother some of the BRF as much as the idea of having to now do more work does-you know, to justify receiving funding from taxpayers who work.

        I don’t know if it was this thread or another where people were talking about past girlfriends of Will. I wasn’t aware of most of them so I did some searching. When I searched Jecca Craig an article from 3/2016 came up from Lainey’s site. It really doesn’t seem like much has changed. Interesting that Will went to the wedding alone to the place where he supposedly proposed to her. You would think a loving couple would embrace an opportunity to revisit together the place of an important/romantic part of their lives and get away from the little ones a month or so before their own anniversary.

        Like Myra said about Kate trying or people trying to make Kate being Diano 2.0-Lainey’s story shows the People mag cover trying to make that happen. It still hasn’t happened. Kate doesn’t have the natural ability. Meghan’s humaneness made that more obvious. The story also talks about Will’s “work” and what Harry was doing at the same time(and this was before Meghan). Five years have passed since that story and not much has seemed to changed on Will & Kate’s part. I’m guessing that would be pretty intimidating. LOL at a grown up woman having fully formed ideas comment in the above story. Is that suppose to be shocking and unusual?
        https://www.laineygossip.com/Prince-William-to-spend-Easter-in-Kenya-as-Prince-Harry-extends-Nepal-trip-to-help-rebuild-school/43420

    • Doulton says:

      I think it’s important to understand that Meghan is very intellectually and humanly curious: she reads a lot; she wants to know how things work; she wants to know about other people and their lives; she has all the tendencies of the “curious” people who end up being the inventors, the writers, the achievers. Her curiosity about the world transformed Prince Harry who adopted it quickly. (I want to add that it’s quite possible that Prince Philip and perhaps Prince Charles are “curious” people as well.). Curiosity is often a component of genius and at the very least it indicates a very “interested in the world” person.

      The Cambridges are about as curious as a cabbage.

      • Seraphina says:

        Doulton, thank you so much for bringing what you said to the table. I once read that the intellects of the world question out of curiosity. Meghan shows not only curiosity but the continuing need to further enlighten herself. No matter what, Meghan outshines Kate. And Ma Middleton and the Courtiers know this.
        Ironically, cabbage smells like sewage when cooked.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Doulton well said. Something that has stood out to me about Kate is the lack of curiosity. She just seems to have no interest in learning. I agree with you that I think Philip had a great deal of curiosity and that Charles does as well. Camilla – meh but she is a huge reader, and a lot of times (not always) big readers have a natural curiosity because they want to read about other people, other times, other cultures.

        This is why Meghan was so good at being a royal, in part. She was interested and engaged at events because she DID want to know more about what an organization did, how it helped people, what it needed, etc.

        Kate doesn’t have that quality and neither does William and it shows.

      • Nic919 says:

        Kate’s cousin was interviewed around the time of the engagement and basically admitted that Kate doesn’t care about much outside of herself. And we have seen evidence of that lack of curiosity for the last ten years.

    • PrincessK says:

      Of course she was intimidated, Kate can hardly string a sentence together that has not already been written for her. She was described as being an ‘average’ student at school, and we know what that politely means. Even her step mother in law, who is no Einstein herself is supposedly to have said that she was ‘pretty but dim’.

      This overdrive PR is going to backfire spectacularly and it is shocking that the people who care for the Cambridges cannot see this.

    • Demi says:

      Without a doubt Meghan’s outstanding public speaking skills intimated Kate
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VTYqaf4T5I

  2. Aaliyah says:

    This women needs to stop, it’s actually getting pathetic. Insecurity is what made Meghan seem intimidating. This is what happens when you have no achievements, no redeeming traits or personality of your own and only paid gossipers to prop you up. It’s so humiliating. Throwing your sister-in-law to the wolves and lusting after her husband doesn’t make you a good person, but a mean girl.

    • Osty says:

      Ikr, its embarrassing. Imagine praising someone for wearing clothes and going to a funeral. Only idiots will read this drivel and not shake their heads for the

      • Anne Marie says:

        oof. That read like obsessed fanfic. Does Camilla realize how sad and pathetic she’s making kate look? “Kate spent 10 years as a girlfriend learning the ropes.” TEN YEARS? To learn what ropes? How to shake hands and smile and wear pretty clothes? Damn, girl. If it takes you 10 years to learn how to do that, then Meghan is the least of your problems. Also, if I hear how kate “has never put a foot wrong,” again, I will lose my will to live. There is a long, long list of ways she put a foot wrong and camilla was probably happily writing all about them at the time.

      • fishface says:

        @Anne Marie – it took Kate 10 years because she’s dim, lazy and self-absorbed.

    • Cecilia says:

      Again playing along the angry black woman trope making it seem like meghan came at kate with aggression or something. Im tired

    • swirlmamad says:

      EXACTLY. IMO and by all accounts, Meghan seems to be exactly the sort of woman I would love to be friends with — intelligent, kindhearted, and loyal (almost to a fault, it seems at times — most of these people don’t deserve it). What the F is intimidating about that? Unless, of course, as Kate, you look in the mirror and know you have no hope of measuring up in any way, shape or form — because you have no desire nor ability to put in the work to do better.

    • Seraphina says:

      Exactly this. Meghan has it all and that makes Kate VERY uncomfortable. And when you are a person who is insecure then you make up lies and throw BS to the wall to see what sticks.
      What gets me is that Kate doesn’t even appear to try. They paint her as competitive but I saw no “upping her game” when Meghan outshone her. Typical lazy Kate just got rid of Meghan by making up lies.

    • My Two Cents says:

      It’s more than pathetic already! and wtf does this even mean: Kate’s sacrifice in the face of public duty on Saturday? What has she sacrificed?

      • ennie says:

        Maybe she has sacrificed her cigarette habit, she cannot happily show her bum anymore, what else?
        She cannot brag about her holidays, posting the wonderful pics she is able to take as a keen photographer. That must hurt.

    • Eleonora says:

      I know women like Meghan and they give me an enormous amount of energy.
      Making plans to make the world better (or even something small like planning a birthday for someone pre-Covid) somehow seem more realistic when someone like Meghan is on your side.

      For me, Kate’s reaction to her solidified the image I had of her: little interest in anything, not willing to put in much work and thus easily jealous/intimidated/feeling like you lack something when Meghan is around.

      • I worked with a woman (about 15 years my junior) for years who was smart as a whip. [Reminds me a lot of Biden’s press secretary.]. Just super smart, quick off the launch, amazing memory with terrific problem solving skills and an ability to implement effective, productive, by-partisan solutions. (We worked at the state legislative level.) Was I intimidated? NO. I was thrilled to work with her. The energy level and circle of team work and inclusion she created around her were tremendous. On top of all of that, she was (and still is) an enormously kind and generous human being(and still doing amazing work). From what I read, see, and hear about Meghan, she is cut from the same cloth.

        As far as I’m concerned, running Meghan out of the country and the family instead of teaming with her will always be one of FFQ Keen Kate’s biggest failings.

      • Eleonora says:

        @Lowcountry Lady, yes, exactly!
        There’s just an energy that helps people around them as well.

        It was a stupid move. If Kate had been smarter, she would have started joint projects, made an effort to be friends and they would have been two fabulous ladies doing great work.
        Instead, it became a mess caused by jealousy and insecurity from below average work-willingness in the face of someone great.

  3. Chill says:

    Karen’s got to Karen!!

    • Madelaine says:

      So far Catherine the Great has graduated cum laude at Karening. One of her Karening moves consisted in chopping bread for the needy and doing that preposterous Christmas cooking show only to catch up with Duchess Meghan’s commitment to the Hubb Kitchen. Another of kate’s karen-friendly gestures was to wander around the London streets without a purpose in a blue dress the day after Duchess Meghan appeared as an exquisite vision in her blue dress. Katren also worked hard to be able to finally crack a Duchess Meghan-style smile during her exhausting zoom calls. And I will personally never forget / forgive the plane photo op designed to make her lazy ass appear spendthrift. We can rest assured that Catherine Elizabeth Middleton karens by the book.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Madelaine I don’t know if “Katren” was a typo or not but it’s perfect! I’m going to use that when referring to her from now on, lol.

      • Madelaine says:

        @Lorelei: I coined KATREN in a keen effort to remain civil and not to write jealous bitch. You’re welcome to use it. I declare it copyright-free 😁.

  4. Sofia says:

    I have to wonder how much of this “Kate was the one who cried!!!” is being pushed by Tominey herself (don’t get me wrong, I don’t deny the Midds pushing it too) because she was the one who broke the story and if it’s confirmed that it was false, that means her sources weren’t accurate which brings into question how much she /really/ knows by some people, including her rota colleagues. I can see that prospect being extremely upsetting for her and that’s why she’s continuing to push and talk about it because she needs this version to be the one that’s correct in people’s minds.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Or maybe she doesn’t want to admit she got played by Top CEO and her leakers (i.e. Ma and Pips).

      • Ginger says:

        I agree. She seems to be the only one pushing the “Kate really and truly did cry, honest!” narrative. She doesn’t want to admit her sources were feeding her bs

      • fishface says:

        Spot on Digital Unicorn – nothing a journalist hates more than the world knowing they were played.

    • Kalana says:

      My understanding is the rota always knew Kate made Meghan cry but the arrangement was Jason Knauf at KP and the courtiers at BP would keep the Sussexes from correcting the story so the truth didn’t matter. Then of course, the Sussexes left.

      Similar to tiara-gate, the story didn’t need to be true, just backed up by senior royals and palace officials.

    • swirlmamad says:

      This is a good point as well.

      • JT says:

        She got played, which is why she is double and tripling down. When she says her source is top notch, I believe her. It was either Keen herself or CarolE who told her Meghan made her cry several months after the incident. Meghan correcting the story blew the lid on the lie and she was getting called out. I’m sure Camilla went to Buttons and mama to ask what the hell is going on and they keep lying to her. Just last week Camilla herself said that Kate did make Meghan cry, but that bitch Meg slammed the door in her face. Meghan correcting the story must have really damaged her rep for this to be a topic well over a month after the interview. Just like the Tatler article.

    • tolly says:

      This is why Meghan speaking on the record had such a big impact–it undermined the incessant anonymous tattling that is the RR’s bread and butter. Camilla can keep on pushing her story with sketchy “sources”, but unless someone else who was there speaks on the record, Meghan has already had the last word on this subject.

      • Lorelei says:

        “Funeral Truther” Lmao!!

        It’s very obvious that the press is ignoring whatever happened there…

    • Red Snapper says:

      Hi I’m Red Snapper Lone Ranger Funeral Truther. I’m here to theorize that during the great Kate peacemaking moment as they were walking away from the funeral, either William or Harry said something so loud and shocking that Beatrice stopped and stared back. Then we see Kate wiping her eyes with a handkerchief while Sophie rubbed her shoulder. It matters because White Duchess tears are sacred. William makes his wife cry in public and we’re going to just gloss over it? We’ve been talking about the fakata bridesmaid fitting for ten years, but sure, nothing to see here (*waves hands*)

      • Becks1 says:

        I am still laughing at “Lone Ranger Funeral Truther.”

        I’m not sure if there were tears or not, but what I’ll give you is that it is interesting that the moment is not being covered at all – whether or not she actually cried, she’s dabbing her eyes after stepping back from William, can you imagine the body language analyses if that was Harry and Meghan?

      • Nic919 says:

        William is more likely to have said something aggressive enough to make Edward and Beatrice turn back. And especially if it was something that makes Kate cry. Had Harry been rude this would have gotten out to the tabloids immediately.

      • Cecilia says:

        Wait— william made kate cry at the funeral???? I didn’t watch it but you would think that a moment like that would get some press coverage and ive seen nada

      • tolly says:

        I don’t know if I’m a full-on truther, but there is a weird cutout in the AP footage. The Wessexes are walking in front when Harry and Wills start talking, then Sophie and Louise are behind them with Kate a few seconds later, but we never see the brothers pass them. Maybe the camera lost them for moment, maybe something happened.

      • Red Snapper says:

        Cecilia THIS!! This is my crusade!

      • equality says:

        Will said something rude and Harry called him out to behave at a funeral? Maybe this is why Harry is so needed: he can keep Will under control?

      • TheOriginalMia says:

        @RedSnapper, not surprised Incandescent snapped at Kate, in public, in the midst of his family. Not surprised at all. The tabs wouldn’t focus on that because of the invisible contract, but best believe, if that had been H&M, there would have been 100s of stories and body language experts dissecting the he’ll out of that interaction.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Cecilia lol go watch the clip (its in a post from a few days ago here) – I don’t think she was crying, she takes off her mask and then touches her face with the handkerchief, but that doesn’t mean a whole lot. I also think that Beatrice was looking back as they passed a guard or staffer standing on the walkway and she turns back to say something.

        but it’s from a distance and there’s no sound so its hard to tell exactly what happened, and the footage is edited as well (not just at that part, the clip on youtube has a few cutaways).

        Red Snapper is convinced that Kate is crying which is why she has declared herself the Lone Ranger Funeral Truther lol.

      • Red Snapper says:

        Becks you’re explanation doesn’t address why Sophie was consoling her

      • Becks1 says:

        See I just think “consoling” is a strong word. Sophie put her hand on Kate’s shoulder for a few seconds. That doesn’t really mean anything.

        I mean its certainly possible William told her to go to hell and the whole family heard and she was crying, but I don’t think we have enough in the video to declare that.

      • Topaz says:

        @Red Snapper, I was watching the live coverage and had similar thoughts about Will telling Kate to get lost. Kate was trying so hard to have the pictures of the three together for the RR and the coverage of her stepping back to let the brothers talk are not really making sense. Everything is so sugary about Kate.

      • Harper says:

        I had the funeral on my DVR so just Zaprudered it to see if Will did make Kate cry but the camera cut away before Kate bopped off so if Will did send Kate packing with some harsh words it was when the camera was focused elsewhere.

        However, in slow mo I did see that as they were exiting the church through the covered tent everyone bunched up and paused while the Queen got into her car. You could see everyone’s placement through the transparent side of the tent. Will and Kate were together with Lady Louise, and Harry was behind them. Neither Kate nor Will turned around to speak to Harry then, despite his close proximity. Then when Will was talking to the minister, Kate was standing there mutely and Harry was talking to Louise. Will moves on and Kate has to cross in front of the minister to go with Will. She says a few words to the minister but is obviously going purposely slow. She has to walk past Harry, who is standing there waiting his turn with the minister, and Harry very obviously turns his head away from Kate until she passes.

        Harry then goes to the minister and Kate stands there, obviously waiting. After Harry moved on but was still steps behind Will, and with Kate there waiting to pounce, Anne and her husband turned and fell back to briefly join Kate and Harry and Will. I don’t know if Anne wanted to block the camera shot or if she was told to help facilitate the walk. Everyone was turning around to see what was happening except for Chuck and Cams and Bea and Edo who were so far ahead and couldn’t be bothered. Such shenanigans on the part of Kate.

      • swirlmamad says:

        I would love to see this if anyone has a link. Maybe Will barked at Kate to back off and quit the hovering act?

      • Rapunzel says:

        If you’re right, Red Snapper, my guess is that Kate suggested slowing down to wait for Harry. Will was probably not cool with that and snapped.

      • Ginger says:

        LOL Red Snapper. I agree that moment was interesting. I hope it was Harry telling her off. She definitely needs telling of by him and Meghan. I am wondering why we don’t know what they were talking about. KP loves to leak so why haven’t we heard what the conversation was about? Was it just a boring, polite conversation about the service and nothing more? Did Harry cuss them out while they were walking? Did this conversation not fit their narrative of reconciliation and was just a photo op?

      • Rhonda says:

        Or here’s a wild theory for you. Kate was crying at Prince Philip’s funeral because she was upset about his death.

      • Ann says:

        I’m going to get partway on board with your theory. Kate seems desperate to be seen/portrayed as the peacemaker, so she must have been trying to get a money shot with the brothers and it would probably have been obvious and annoying to one or both of them (most likely William). I don’t know if he said anything really loud or rude, but she did fall back and dab at her face (or eyes?) with a hankie. Sure, that could be to adjust makeup or whatever, but I would bet she put a LOT of setter on over that heavy makeup job to be sure it stayed “perfect” for the cameras, so what made it necessary to dab at it just then? Was that a tear in her eye maybe threatening the cat eye look or causing a possible mascara glob?

        Guess we’ll never know, but I could see it.

      • Nic919 says:

        If Kate was crying about Philip she wouldn’t have spent so much time staring directly in the camera for glamour shots unlike every single other member who attended that funeral. You can’t find one photo of anyone else starting at the photographers as precisely as she did that day.

        If Kate got upset it was because William snapped at her and he was likely fed up of her shenanigans at that point. He blew her off once he left the church pew and didn’t look back.

      • Betsy says:

        I looked back at the threads but didn’t see which one had video. Dang!

      • Lorelei says:

        @Nic ITA that it must have been William who said…whatever made Kate upset. If it had been Harry, William would have been on his phone to Wooton and it would have been published before they even finished walking up the hill.

        @Harper lmao at “Zaprudering” — I’ve watched the video clip so many times and cannot figure out exactly what happened, but Kate definitely *looked like* she was wiping away a tear.

      • Demi says:

        Kate was seen wiping her tears as she was walking next to Sophie& lady Louise Sophie was comforting her.. A moment before William had his hands on his face like he was upset too& harry reached to rub William’s arm.. I watched in slow motion..
        I think something is wrong with Cambridge that is unrelated to H&M maybe it’s about Philip or Charles or the queen who knows
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdJkO3PLZrs

    • DeltaJuliet says:

      I am so beyond tired of the crying story. FFS these are all grown women. Let’s MOVE ON.

      • Jaded says:

        Kate may be a grown woman but she’s not a grown-up. She’s a lazy-ass child-woman suffering from arrested emotional development.

      • Seraphina says:

        DeltaJuliet, I love this insanely stupid story. I hope it keeps coming because it makes Kate look terribly stupid. Because if she is Kate the Great Rock of Great Britain, how come this keeps finding its way back to the press.

    • 809Matriarch says:

      This is my take. Camilla will die on that hill because she broke the story. She was brought up short, big time on This Morning when she was challenged.

  5. Midge says:

    Thrown under bus? 2 words: Budget jet

  6. GrnieWnie says:

    Funny, this is what Brits used to always tell me. I was ‘intimidating’ because I didn’t respect their class structure and felt I was entitled to take my grievances to the person in charge. The nerve!! So intimidating. Clearly Meghan is as well.

    • AnneSurely says:

      This. My firm opened a London outpost for expediency bc their home base is in Beijing that they closed within a few years bc it ended up being more efficient to run things out of the NY or Beijing office bc of English work culture. Between the racism, the lack of urgency in getting things done, their adherence to passive aggression, and difficult communication in general, it was costing the firm more money to keep the office open than it was worth.

      And when I say difficult communication, I mean things like that jokey chart that goes around Twitter about what English people say and what Americans hear. We were constantly reholding virtual meetings bc we would think that a matter was closed only to have it crop up again hours later.

      • Midge says:

        I covered Europe, Middle East and Africa for years. I had to go to the UK for a week each quarter. I always dreaded the trip. The “dry” insults and passive aggressiveness (and shitty food and weather) made it my least favorite place to work. And I’ve worked in countries with no alcohol ;) In all seriousness, there is a general dislike of Americans and our work ethic and directness. I find it much more impolite to be passive aggressive than direct.

      • A says:

        @Midge, I was in London once, and I was running late, and the Underground was delayed. I stopped to ask one of the workers there if taking a taxi to where I needed to go would be faster than waiting for the Underground. The response I got was a passive-aggressive comment on how taking a taxi through the city would put me into debt, said in a tone of voice that made it clear this person thought I was unintelligent for even asking the question. Not only was this not a response to what I asked, it was also completely unhelpful, and it was intended to be that way.

        And it wasn’t just this one person–there were a lot of people like this in different contexts as well, to the point that I pretty much accepted that this was the norm. I haven’t traveled extensively, but I’ve gotten around enough, and I’ve never been treated like this anywhere else in the world that I’ve been to.

      • AnneSurely says:

        @Midge, you’re absolutely right, passive aggression is rude. God, I always hated the trip to London. The food, the weather, the people, and the mess I knew I was going to be walking into at the office just had me dreading it every time. And if I wasn’t present, the English staff was rude to my Chinese admins.

        It would always be the same thing, ‘we agreed on this weeks ago via teleconference, why haven’t xyz deliverables been accomplished?’ ‘Oh, we didn’t agree to anything’. My boss was Chinese and a senior partner and had to go instead of me once at the last minute when I got sick and walked into the middle of a major merger 2 months behind bc of the London office’s nonsense. She had the office shuttered within 4 weeks. Whole English portion of the staff fired. She didn’t believe it was as bad as we all said it was until she saw the nonsense herself first hand. Someone mistook her for a member of my admin staff who doesn’t speak English and made a remark in front of her. She fired him on the spot. The stories I could tell about this office alone.

    • A says:

      Funny, this is also the same reason why they found someone like Gandhi so intimidating too. Interesting how white British fragility in particular has never wavered, not one bit, in the last 100 years. They stay finding people of colour intimating bc…we exist. Sometimes in large groups. And sometimes, we’re better than white people at what we do. Shock. Horror. Gasp. Won’t someone stop the screaming barbaric hoardes going on peaceful hunger strike already, before the breach the gates.

      • AnneSurely says:

        We used to joke that the real wonder wasn’t that England had lost the empire, but how they held onto it for so long.

      • fishface says:

        I don’t know if it is so much that the Brits (and actually the ‘English’ as the Scots, Welsh and Irish loathe their English cousins) find POC intimidating than astonishing….that POC are no longer their ‘minions/slaves’ who should answer their every command. And the worst offenders are the aristos, who’ve fallen foul of centuries of inter-marriage, leaving many of them titled, entitled and quite thick. The English have never gotten over that they lost their empire – they still behave as if the map is full of pinks bits (reference to olden day maps where the British Empire territories were all pink). I have some lovely English friends but for the most part I find them appalling and odious.

  7. Digital Unicorn says:

    To someone like Top CEO being intimidated by someone is code for they wouldn’t be pushed around by you and your passive aggressive bitchiness. Meghan clearly refused to play Cannot’s game.

    The fact that Top CEO’s hagiographer is now calling Meghan a liar over crygate tells me Harry is back in LA.

    I really despise these 2 (the Cambridges).

    • Agirlandherdog says:

      But… but Digital Unicorn… Kate hasn’t stepped a foot wrong since she joined the BRF ten years ago! Except for all those times she stepped foot out of a car and flashed her bits because she refused to either lengthen/weight her skirts or just keep her legs together when she got of a car. Or all those times the tabs pointed out how lazy she was. Or the sunbathing nude photos.

      But we’re REWRITING HISTORY! So we all just need to get with the program.

      • Lorelei says:

        @AGirlAndHerDog I would give anything to never, ever hear again for the rest of my life how Kate has “never put a foot wrong.” I also can’t stand when they crow about how Kate is “going from strength to strength,” but the “foot wrong” is definitely more grating. Not only is it patently untrue, but they hit us over the head with it multiple times every week; it’s ridiculous.

  8. Lightpurple says:

    Something catty but that’s a lot of eye makeup to wear to a funeral.

    • Haylie says:

      She spent more time in the makeup mirror and stylist’s chair than Robin Williams on the set of Mrs. Doubtfire.

    • SarahCS says:

      No tears for Phillip then. Leave your humanity at the door when you enter the BRF.

    • Kate and her stylist were looking for the money shot of her eyes. Beautifully tailored mask (front and side), and small hat with netting. They so wanted a clear shot at her face and the only thing showing on her face is her eyes. She so wanted those close up photos of her eyes in my opinion.

      • Thanks to the mask we didn’t see Kate’s wrinkly jowls. This is what makes her look old and witchy.

      • Lorelei says:

        @LowCountryLady: Kate probably views the photos from Saturday as a win, but the one of her staring out of the car window is creepyAF imo. She literally looks like a Disney villain for god’s sake.

        @Haylie I genuinely lol’d at the Mrs. Doubtfire reference!

    • Tiffany :) says:

      Her under-eyes have been HEAVILY photo-shopped in the pic where she’s looking right at the camera. She has puffiness under her eyes, and you can see where it has been smoothed significantly.

      • FicklePickle says:

        Yes, god forbid somebody at a family funeral might be a little puffy around the eyes. These people.

  9. Becks1 says:

    Kate needs to let the crying story go. Just LET IT GO. Every time they go on about it, it proves Meghan’s point that the palace refused to correct the story.

    I do get why Tominey insists Kate cried in general- she had the original story, she needs to double down – but it doesnt have to be brought up all the time. Meghan said she had a note from Kate apologizing. She wouldn’t have said that if she didnt.

    Anyway the rest of this article is so sycophantic and over the top, I’m embarrassed for anyone who reads this and thinks, wow Kate is so amazing. I have loved seeing this particular sentence get dragged on twitter:

    “Kate’s sacrifice in the face of public duty on Saturday put her in the frame as a Queen in waiting like never before.”

    SACRIFICE?? WHAT SACRIFICE??? She wore expensive clothes and jewelry, was chauffeured to a funeral, attended said funeral, and then left. How does that prove she’s fit to do anything?

    I think the RRs are going to have to rethink how they describe some of these events, because people are willing to buy into the idea of the Queen living a life of sacrifice, they aren’t as willing to buy into it for William and Kate.

    • Cecilia says:

      I thought that that was actually quite disrespectful to Queen Elizabeth

      • Red Snapper says:

        See all this talk about someone maybe making Kate crying one time is why I’m on the Lone Ranger Funeral Truther train. I *believe* William made Kate cry in public after the funeral.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Red Snapper, If indeed W said something to Kant, I don’t believe that she was crying but I wouldn’t put it past her to make people THINK she was crying. Sophie would have leaned into that without a problem. This was all a photo opportunity for the BM, which I don’t forget for a second. If I was W, I would start doubling down on getting her and Ma Mids to shut it. If she keeps it up, I think we’ll start seeing the brf start throwing Kant under the bus for driving the Sussex’s out. After all, we might see something that makes us believe that it was KATE who asked about the color of the baby’s skin. She is playing a very dangerous game IMO.

      • Nic919 says:

        @Red Snapper I am going to add to your theory and say that William snapped at her because he was tired of the “look at me” games she played at the funeral and he was at his wit’s end. I would trace his anger at when he basically abandons her once the service is over and he doesn’t bother to check if she’s following him once he leaves the pews.

    • Jay says:

      Also, calling her a “Queen in waiting” when there’s, uh, at least two people ahead of her currently is…😬. Like, I think I understand the intent here, it’s just terribly executed.

      And yet, why bring up “Waity Katy” again in the same article ? Are they taking her down a peg, or is that nickname an example of Kate’s great sacrifice? It’s very weird.

      • equality says:

        It’s supposed to indicate that she was bullied like Meghan and was, oh-so-brave about it.

      • Amy Too says:

        Jay, “waity katie” and a few other little tidbits in the article made me think this was a “fine, I’ll write your sycophantic article full of your own talking points, but I’m not terribly happy about it and will add my own ‘color commentary’ to the article.” Kate stared at Harry a lot while he ignored her as did William, shes Waity Katie, Phil used to say the Queen had an “abundance of tolerance” (about what? Wink wink) and so does Kate, her peace making was choreographed. This article is the first one I’ve read that actually includes “and not the other way around” when talking about Kate making Meghan cry, so that alludes to the fact that Meghan was correcting a story that had been out there. Usually they just claim that Meghan out of the blue for no reason threw Kate under the bus by accusing her randomly of making her cry. Talk about how Kate was an “unknown” with not much of a life and no achievements despite her dating William for ten years (which calls back to waity katie) before marriage while Megan was a “star.” “Everything happened much more quickly with Harry and Meghan, who entered the Royal scene with her own, fully-formed ideas. I think Kate found her quite intimidating,” doesn’t sound super pro-Kate to me and again, calls back to Waity Katie and the difference between Harry being super in love with Meghan vs William stringing Kate along. And then we go back to alluding to how Kate is very good at ignoring conflict, much like the Queen, “The parallels between unflappable Kate and Harry’s famously conflict-avoiding grandmother are becoming increasingly uncanny….” talk of her “sacrifice” and how it makes her so Queen-like calls back to Philip’s quote about the Queen having “an abundance of tolerance.” I would love to know the context of that abundance of tolerance quote because it really sounds like Philip liking that the Queen let him run around with “companions.” I saw a lot of shade sprinkled in with the sugar, but maybe I’m reaching. All the talk about her “sacrifice” doesn’t make any sense in the context of what happened on Saturday though, so I’m thinking the word was chosen to allude to other “sacrifices” shes made while having “and abundance of tolerance” just like the Queen had with her cheating husband Philip.

    • L84Tea says:

      You are echoing my inner thoughts, Becks. When I read this I immediately thought that they need to let this crying story go already. They’ve beaten that dead horse into oblivion at this point. CT isn’t even a journalist anymore. She’s literally a Kate/Middleton family spokesperson and nothing more.

    • Kalana says:

      But Kate was embarrassed by the truth because she’s so private! Look at how magnanimous Kate is for rising above people knowing the truth about her own behavior. Meghan was supposed to be her scapegoat in the press and Kate is rising above Meghan refusing to play ball with Kate’s plans for her.

      Sacrifice. Kate should be given another honor. Preferably one without racist imagery, though we know that doesn’t bother her.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Kalana, let’s see if I have this right. Kant is embarrassed because Meghan said, “she’s a good person”. Right? If Kant had kept quiet without anymore stories about this–also Ma Mids–does she realize she would have come out of it just fine? Meghan didn’t say such, but she alluded to the possibility of Kant being silenced like she (Meghan) was. It was really a fine moment by Meghan. She was very magnanimous. IMO it just shows that members of the brf have no brains. I mean, SERIOUSLY.

    • Laugh or Cry says:

      They repeat it because if it is repeated enough it will be believed, much like how the general public at large thinks this group is “noble” when the truth is the opposite. Remember what was said, nothing is at it appears…

    • Ann says:

      She is a grown-ass woman but she acts like she’s still in middle school. By the time QE was Kate’s age, she had been Queen for almost 15 years. Meghan had a hard-won, successful acting career, a double degree, a first marriage and divorce from which she had probably learned a lot about herself and what she needed and expected from life and love. Kate is a freaking mess.

      I mean, I don’t think Meghan made her cry, I am sure it was the other way around as Meghan said, and the reason I’m sure is because Meghan never said anything about it…..because she’s not a child. She only said something to correct the record because Kate and her minions would NOT let it go.

      But even if she had made her cry? So what! It can’t have ben anything that bad, because if it WERE, Kate would have provided details. And she hasn’t, because whatever happened is obviously so trivial and run-of-the-mill that if people knew what supposedly had the White Duchess quivering years later, they would laugh at it and at her.

      What a God-awful role model. I feel badly for Charlotte.

      • WithTheAmerican says:

        Yes, a queen in waiting so noble, so strong, who supposedly cries over the color of tights a bride wants and lets this narrative become a National scandal instead of bearing up under such challenges as tights she doesn’t like.

        Hmmm.

        And same Queen can’t even manage the dignity of personal responsibility for actually making the bride cry. Mother Middleton needs to work harder on her leaks.

    • nutella toast says:

      I couldn’t agree more @becks1 – we have to remember that white woman tears have gotten people killed over the centuries – there’s a reason they’re not letting it go…because they are exactly who H&M said they were. White woman tears are powerful….a lazy shortcut to powerful, but powerful nonetheless.

      • iconoclast59 says:

        That’s what’s so sickening about this. They’re keeping the haters all riled up. They know it, and they Just. Don’t. Care.

    • I think they are using the word sacrifice as in ‘Meghan and Harry have been so mean to me, but see I will sacrifice my own personal sorrow at how they’ve disrespected me’ to put myself forward to give Harry an opening to do the right thing with the FFK. (Of course, NOTE TO SELF, remember to only opt for this sacrifice when there are cameras to capture the moment.)

      It’s all about being the victim: ‘Yes, he beat me, but I’m such a good wife, I still had his favorite dinner on the table’ kind of vibe. What I sacrifice to make everything right.

  10. Emily says:

    I wish Meghan would release the apology letter. But then the narrative will be about how the Sussex’s can’t be trusted, not that Kate lies.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Kate would turn around and sue her for copyright infringement or invasion of privacy.

  11. Merricat says:

    There aren’t enough eye rolls for thirsty Kate. She can try to justify her behavior toward Meghan six ways to Sunday, it will never excuse what she did to a pregnant, depressed family member. Forget you, Kate. Either admit and apologize or stfu.

  12. Beach Dreams says:

    “Stony silence”??? All Kate and Carole have been doing since the interview is insisting that Kate cried, with multiple explanations for why she’s the victim.

  13. Cecilia says:

    Carole middleton needs to be stopped

    • Lorelei says:

      @Cecilia I hope Carole keeps going because she is digging them further and further into a hole which is going to be impossible to get out of unscathed.

      Idk what she thinks she’s accomplishing here, but she’s making everything so. much. worse. This will backfire spectacularly on Kate.

  14. Lauren says:

    She was intimidated that is why she made sure to take full advantage of the embiggining campaign that her staff has to throw to the paper. Because they can’t admit that after 20 years on the royal scene Keen is unable to do the job, lazy, lacking the charisma and the the work ethic that usually go with the job. How dare this woman who is her same age arrive in the scene and show that you don’t need 10 years as a girlfriend to learn the job? How dare she continue to work while pregnant and after? How dare she be smart, confident and articulate?

  15. Jay says:

    Are they just trolling Kate now? This is embarrassing and also maybe a shot?

    “Hasn’t put a foot wrong since she first arrived in the House of Windsor almost 10 years ago to the day: she rose above.”

    She Rose above, indeed!

  16. swirlmamad says:

    All this syrupy, sugary bullsh*t serves to do is make me dislike this manipulative, hateful, pitiful shell of a woman even more. I don’t even have words for how disgusting this sick game she and Camilla Tominey (who can kick rocks with no shoes on) play daily is.

  17. The Hench says:

    I have to admit that I’m finding the cynicism and blatant truth twisting of these reporters bone chilling. It takes mere moments with our friend Google to find plenty of articles criticising Duchess Dolittle – the woman they now repeatedly insist “has never put a foot wrong”. Now the journalistic doublespeak dial has been turned up to 11. We are in a royal 1984.

    • Jais says:

      Thank u @hench. 1984 doublespeak is exactly it. Just keep repeating the lies and false narrative until it is believed. So v trumpian. Gotta take deep breaths cuz it makes me angry and I don’t wana be no William lol

    • Cecilia says:

      And camilla tominey was a vocal one too before meghan arrived on the scene

    • Ginger says:

      There is no such thing as “never putting a foot wrong” No one is perfect and it’s stupid and insulting to even suggest that. Kate wants the world to know she is perfect. That is a horrible image to try and display when you have children. No one is perfect and that’s ok. She is an awful role model for kids.

  18. damejudi says:

    Question: why is Keen Guevara so awful?
    Answer: Because she can be.

    Katie Keen absolutely has agency in this, and the fact that she chooses this shines a bright light on who she is.

    Cow.

  19. Cessily says:

    I don’t even know what to say beyond, “so much for Kate as a peacemaker” after this story.. you can’t foster peace when dragging the past hurts to the front page constantly.
    Plus if this is the story that was the “linchpin” in the media turn on Meghan pushing it will never lead to any reconciliation.
    A simple private sincere apology and a statement that they put the past behind them and look forward to building family relationships would be better than the toddler fight over crying! This all makes me cry but no one cares about that because I am an adult.

  20. Belli says:

    “Kate spent 10 years as a girlfriend learning the ropes. Everything happened much more quickly with Harry and Meghan, who entered the Royal scene with her own, fully-formed ideas. I think Kate found her quite intimidating.”

    So Kate was intimidated that Harry didn’t make Meghan wait like William made her wait, that Meghan actually wanted to do the job, that Meghan had initiative and that Meghan was actually good at the job.

    Well we already knew that.

    • Cecilia says:

      I think she was 100% intimidated by meghan but because of her own insecurities, not because meghan did or said something wrong.

      And i also think she was jealous because she had to wait 10 years and basically had to force william into a marriage, while harry and meghan got engaged after just a year of dating

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Tominey is snarkily confirming a few truths in her article – she’s confirmed that Top CEO was jealous of H&M’s relationship and how is progressed compared to her own.

      • Kalana says:

        Waity Katie/ intimidated by Meghan/ embarrassed by the truth about the crying story. Yeah, there were a few darts in there.

        Is the article in general a take on the DM style insult through over-the-top praise? Camilla was asked to praise Kate and she was a little salty in how she wrote it?

      • Belli says:

        And I could believe that THAT made Kate cry. Seeing Harry’s open adoration of Meghan and it suddenly being obvious that there wasn’t actually any reason why William couldn’t have been affectionate all these years if he’d wanted to? Especially if the affair stuff was starting to come out around the same time? That would be understandable.

        But “Meghan coming along made me realise how much of a dick my husband actually is and I cried” is an Olympic mental gymnastics routine away from “Meghan made me cry” even though it could be spun as being “because of” Meghan.

    • Haylie says:

      Is “learning the ropes” code for waiting for Jecca, Isabella, and a bunch of other more interesting aristo/aristo adjacent women to say no to Will?

      • Normades says:

        Exactly. Harry fell madly in love with Megan and choose HER. Kate got William because no one else wanted him.

        Megan was the total package: smart, beautiful, resourceful and already had her A list group of friends. She had charisma to burn. Of course Kate was intimidated by her…and jealous.

    • Tessa says:

      Learning the ropes for ten years!? If William during one of the breakups had found someone else who also wanted him, Kate would have been HISTORY.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Kate didn’t learn anything in the decade of dating, because William kept her away from his family. She was always the side piece, never the person he intended to marry. Why introduce her around to his family? Even Harry admitted he was ‘looking forward to getting to know her’ when the engagement was announced. He’d spent next to no time with her during the 10 years of the Middleton Land a Prince Campaign.

      She’s learned next to nothing in the last 10, because the two of them are the laziest, most workshy members of the family.

      • Sigmund says:

        Ouch. I didn’t remember that comment from Harry back in the day.

        No wonder she’s angry/embarrassed. Harry knew he wanted Meghan and went for her, whereas William had to be convinced for ten years. And even now, he’s still cheating. I’d almost feel bad for Kate if she hadn’t done this to herself.

      • Becks1 says:

        This is a key point in the narrative of “kate was learning the ropes.”

        how, pray tell? She wasn’t doing any kind of philanthropic work. She didn’t mean the Queen until Peter and Autumn’s funeral (without William.) She went to his passing out at Sandhurst, right (white swingy coat we saw again in Ireland), and when he was inducted or whatever into the Order of the Garter (black polka dot suit with big black hat), and I think those are the only two royal-related events that she attended until they got married. I know they went skiing together, was it a family thing or a friends thing? So overall she had little interaction with the family, little experience with working at all – how was she learning the ropes?

      • A says:

        Honestly, a part of think thinks that, if William had it his way, he wouldn’t be married to anyone, period, let alone Kate or Jecca or any of the rest of them. He never struck me as pursuing any of those relationships bc of any serious feelings he had for any of those women. It always seemed like he went after them bc he thought they were hot, or bc he wanted a bit of fun.

        I don’t think any of the women he pursued relationships with were people he was ever going to be serious about. And I have a feeling that he kept putting off the idea of settling down with anyone bc he still had a vaguely unformed plan in his mind to abdicate his place in the succession, and he knew it would be more difficult to do that if he got married and had children. I think that attitude of his has never really left him, even today.

      • Nic919 says:

        The only thing Kate learned in the 10 years of dating was to accept William’s cheating.

  21. S808 says:

    It’s so weird how they keep insisting that Meghan made her cry. They keep obsessively bringing it up. But they haven’t offered anymore details or proof.

    And yeah we know she was intimidated by Meghan. It’s why she and her mother helped force her out and it’s why she’s trying to morph into Meghan now. Can’t put a black pan suit or change your zoom background and be Meghan though!

    • Cecilia says:

      That is because they can’t the deny that kate made meghan cry. Meghan has that apology note remember? And the reason why they keep bringing it up is because meghan needs to be seen as the aggressor while kate needs to be seen as an english rose. Even though kate has a track record for being a mean girl. Notice how camilla says that kate as met the “accusations” with dignified silence even tho the middleton camp has 10 stories a week claiming meg made kate cry, while meghan said her piece in the interview and actually has been silent since? Projections

  22. Jen says:

    Who thinks it’s a good look not to support a stressed out emotional bride? Way before the Oprah interview I thought this. Crying during someone else’s wedding prep….is selfish.

    I get she was emotional from the baby. But this narrative coming from KP does not make Kate look good.

  23. Seraphina says:

    They continuously try to paint Kate as being like Liz. Using adjectives for buzz words to try and liken Kate to Liz since Liz is so popular. I bet they are alike. Liz is petty and so is Kate.
    And I almost lost it when they used the word: Magnanimity for Kate. WOW. But the masses will swallow the BS.

    • Jais says:

      Magnanimity is Meghan when she said Kate was a good person in the interview. But sure, that’s what Kate is…essentially just taking notes and stealing everything that makes Meghan the person that she is. No erasure here nope not at all.

  24. swirlmamad says:

    And this here is WHY Meghan and Harry HAD to do that Oprah interview for anyone who is still questioning it. These vultures will not let this shit die — not then, not now, and not ever. They keep hammering and hammering — subscribing to the Trumpian playbook that if you say something enough times, eventually “they” will believe you. They were never going to stop and give them any peace, even after leaving. At least by putting their side of things out there, it trips up the constant brainwashing loop the Royal Rats continue to push. This Tominey witch looks like a damn fool (at least to us sane people on here) yammering on about this crying story every damn week, yet she keeps at it like a dog with a bone and there are always people that are going to swallow it hook, line, and sinker. NO ONE ON EARTH would be able to endure this hateful abuse towards themselves and “keep calm and carry on”.

  25. Snuffles says:

    At this point, when Kate dies, her tombstone will have the engraved epithet “Meghan Markle DID make me cry!”

  26. JT says:

    So Meghan made Kate cry, but she still won’t go on the record to correct the story like Meghan did. She’s still hiding behind the rats. So Kate’s copious amounts of Botox and struggle weaves must be true since she took great pains to deny it. My God. If she can’t say it on the on the record than she needs to STFU and get over it. She lied and got called out. Move on. I don’t see how anyone can call her peacemaker with the way she is behaving.

  27. Phoenix says:

    That fashion show Kate put up at the funeral was part of her PR machine to start the stories about what perfect FFQ she is. But even if she puts all of the jewelry from the royal collection, heck even if she shows up with the crown itself, some of us will never forget- Kate made Meghan cry. Kate didn’t lift her finger to correct the story. Instead Kate was in “stone silence” while her SIL was tortured and called awful names for this. Kate took advantage of this story. Kate throw Meghan under the bus on multiple occasions. Kate is a horrible person.
    And that story that she is able to charm Harry…erm…stop it! Harry knows that Kate is a petty, jealous, mean girl that hurt his wife many times and there is nothing charming about that!

    • Don’t you find it interesting that the press has received info on every tiny thing about Kate’s jewelry and outfit? However, when a reporter asked about obtaining info on the other family wreaths (based on info Sussexes’ released about their wreath) , the quote was ….’that’s a private family matter and we don’t comment on that.’ So Meghan mentioning Sussex wreath is so tacky, but Kate making sure everyone knew exactly what she was wearing, where it came from, and the message she was conveying by choosing it….is not tacky?

      • Jais says:

        I didn’t realize KP issued a statement that their wreath was a private family matter after the Sussex had briefed about their wreath. Jeez Louise, they are snotty. A wreath, like clothes and jewelry, is made to be seen, is decorative, and symbolic. If you can brief on one, why not the other?

      • I believe it was BP who responded or at least someone connected to the funeral arrangements.

  28. Over it says:

    Kate is a monumental B.

  29. Lizzie says:

    Meghan is quite accomplished and Waity is only known for laziness.

  30. Tiffany says:

    The guy in front of Keen Kannot, his morning suit is tailored and looks great him.

  31. Over it says:

    If the dress fitting and all these other gatherings for the wedding were so private and intimate that Kate was put out, then how pray tell did camel-toe according to her and Kate know that Megs made Kate cry? I mean i one hundred percent doubt that if Megs did make Kate cry she would then go and shout it from the rooftop. Camel toe acts like Megs stole Harry from her and Kate personally,like he was ever theirs to begin with. That woman is a flat out racist. It eats away at her that Her white prince married a woman of color. And Kate 10 years plus if flawless behavior my asscheeks. No kates asscheeks I mean because I have seen a lot of those in the 10 years.

  32. J ferber says:

    I’m with Emily. Release kate’s apology note. It proves she’s a liar.

    • Laugh or Cry says:

      Would it be similar to her father releasing her letter to hi though? Even if they could, it wouldn’t change any of those seared minds.

      • Snuffles says:

        It would be. If she did, the Cambridges would sue with glee.

      • blue36 says:

        Doesn’t it depend in which country it would be published? During Meghan’s lawsuit, there were a couple of commentators who said that the copyright law is actually the opposite in the US – as in the receiver holds the copyright. I doubt she would release it that way, but if they keep pushing it, she would have it revealed through a lawsuit. If what Meghan said was untrue then Kate would have sued.

      • equality says:

        The copyright law is the same in the US, the UK and Mexico. The writer holds copyright.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Only way to prove it is if the other people at the fitting tell the truth. Is the fitter going to anger the (potential) future Queen Consort by admitting what happened? Is Kate’s nanny going to admit the truth?

      • Becks1 says:

        Right, no one associated with Givenchy is going to spill, they may work with Meghan a lot but they’re protecting their future relationship with Kate.

      • Sofia says:

        Yup. Nobody is going to speak up. Givenchy will not because Kate is a potential customer/someone who can drive sales to them if she wears something of theirs and Kate’s employers/mother obviously won’t.

        The whole thing being a she said-they said situation and Meghan being stopped from commenting is why and how 50-11 narratives formed as to why and how the crying happened.

      • A says:

        Honestly, I don’t think Meghan is that invested in it being proved as the truth. Which is why I’m inclined to believe it–she isn’t doing overtime trying to spin the wheels in the press to make her point. She said what she had to say in the Oprah interview. For her, that was enough to set the record straight–for the truth to be out there. If people believe it or not, that’s up to them, so I don’t think she’s fussed about it that much. I think what Meghan wanted was a chance to speak up in her own defense, that’s it.

    • Nic919 says:

      This is what Meghan needs to do.
      She needs to post a photo on Sussex Royal that blurs the body of the text and just shows Dear Meghan, and then show Kate at the bottom and then put “Pepperidge Farms Remembers”.

      It would never happen but it would be awesome if it did.

  33. Soupie says:

    It really chaps me that all over the various media we have people ridiculously asserting that Meghan is a schemer, manipulator, bully, social climber, and a lot of other things more horrible which I will not mention here. True narcissists are not kind, compassionate bridge-builders like Meghan. True narcissists insist on driving the narrative and having the upper hand, sticking to their story even in the face of tangible proof, like Kate continues to do. It’s not just the bots that are doing this; too many clueless narcissistic bullies on the web insist that Meghan is evil incarnate. Just shows how propaganda can influence viewpoint in addition to their already vile nature.

  34. Sarah I says:

    Celebitchy keeps putting in the most interesting photos. The photo of Kate in the car looking straight at the camera is unsettling. I was waiting, wanting to see someone else’s opinion on that. And yes, she was wearing a lot of eye makeup. My feeling was that Kate dressed and made up very carefully for this day. She gives me the shivers. That look at the camera is so strange. It is like an illustration of someone who has no inner life, but is always on the outside trying to curry favor.

    And it does make me mad when I read the stupid things the British press publishes about the Sussexes. It just occurred to me something I read a long time ago: the Nazi’s said that if you repeat a lie often enough, people start to believe it.

    • Becks1 says:

      It was a completely planned shot, the photographer is married to Kate’s stylist/assistant. He’s a good photographer, but that’s the reason she was staring directly at the camera like that. And he touches her up a lot.

      • Harper says:

        The photo reminds me of a wedding day photo session–the bride in the car on her way to the church. Since this photo was taken by Kate’s stylist’s husband and touched up before it was released to the public then we have to assume it was posed and shot in the privacy of Kensington Palace before they set out for Windsor. I saw the photo online before the ceremony started. This is how calculating Kate was about the funeral — it wasn’t to pay respect to Philip — it was a day for PR antics. I wonder how the rest of the Royals feel seeing Kate absolutely use the ceremony and its resulting attention to boost her image?

      • Sarah I says:

        Thanks, Becks.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        You can tell they heavily photo shopped the area under her eyes.

    • Tessa says:

      Very creepy. and all the stans were fawning all over her.

    • Nic919 says:

      It’s a very cold look to the camera, especially in a day where most people have some emotion. To me it confirms how she planned her glamour shots throughout the event but forgot the part where you should look emotionally affected by a sad event.

      This photo should be used to remind people that Kate is not a passive player in this game of PR and she’s going to do what she can to maintain her image, even if it means throwing her pregnant sister in law under the bus despite a miscarriage and past suicidal ideation.

      • Isabella says:

        The standing photos of Kate are also creepy. Who poses for photos at a funeral? Where is William? It’s like she’s taking her turn on the red carpet.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Nic exactly! It was so obviously planned, but what on earth is she trying to convey with that expression? She was on her way to a funeral; shouldn’t she have at least *pretended* to be sad/somber? That photo is so, so creepy.

    • EliseM says:

      When I see that staged photo of her in the car, I see a wanna be Meghan looking back. If you go back to the pictures of Commonwealth day, where Meghan is in green walking behind Kate, you can see how minimal Kates brows and eye makeup are. Now, Harry is there without his wife, what an opportunity to play up the eyes and brows to look more like Meghan when you know a mask will cover the face and highlight those features. She wants the attention of Harry in the worst way. In a creepy, inappropriate way. That marriage is tight lady, you are out of your league, not to mention your mind.

  35. Pepperpot says:

    Kate is a complete and utter clown. I don’t know how any self respecting woman can look at her and think she’s wonderful. She needs to be tied to everyone to be propped up, she has no merit of her own but to soothe Will rages. I can’t.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Pepperpot, I think the whole “soothe Will rages” is just another PR made up sound bite. Do we REALLY think she can do that?

    • Bess says:

      The same type of women who think Melania Trump is classy.

  36. Izzy says:

    KP used Tominey to create a false narrative about “Mean Meghan made Keen Kate cry,” and ever since, Cameltoe has continued to insist that her version is correct. She can’t face the idea that she was used by her beloved palace sources. Tominey really is gonna fcuk around and find out, huh? Meghan has receipts. They keep forgetting that.

  37. Lizzie says:

    I bet waity saw how Meghan out-shown her every single day, and cried because she is such a dud.

  38. Chartreuse says:

    The ‘intensely private’ duchess’s butt we’ve seen how many times? Sure, Carole with an E

  39. aquarius64 says:

    For Camp KP/Middleton to put out this drivel they know the funeral fluff pieces aren’t working. Still stinging from Meghan outing FFQC on international TV? And still lying about it? Pathetic.

  40. equality says:

    So saying “Kate made me cry” is throwing her under the bus but saying “Meghan made me cry” isn’t throwing her under the bus? And how does saying Kate “repeatedly looked over” at Harry make her look anything but obsessed with her brother-in-law and disrespectful of the funeral service for Phil? And Kate is quite famously tolerant but just not when it comes to Meghan (or by reports Eugenie or Bea)? I wonder if that is partly why the Queen doesn’t seem to have much time for Kate because the Queen is supposed to be close to B&E. I’m sorry but how did they “bend over backwards” for Meghan?

    • Haylie says:

      They didn’t call her the N word… to her face.

      That’s the royal version of “We bent over backwards for Meghan.”

      • Jaded says:

        BOOM!

      • A says:

        They made sure to call her that behind her back, but in their defense, it was always said as a whisper, so really, it’s probably still Meghan’s fault if her hearing is so good that it picked up something that they went out of their way to hide, OBVIOUSLY. /sarcasm

  41. ABritGuest says:

    Interesting that they are mentioning other aspects of the interview now- question about skin tone but whilst they bristle at it they aren’t denying even through sources that this happened. And when they say they bent over backwards to support the couple apart from letting them have office at BP what are the examples of this support? starting to think this means allowing them to get married at all..

    When Tominey makes the point about people making distinction between waity Katie years and Meghan’s career- who would that have been? Kate’s had best press of her life since Meghan came on the scene just by virtue of being white. But whoever that was sounds like that put noses out of joint. Apart from evoking the scary black woman imagery, interesting that they put out that Kate may have been intimidated by Meghan. Like the Tatler profile suggested- I think that insecurity drove her to try and put Meghan ‘in her place’.

    The insistence that Kate was in tears is probably Tominey doubling down as she was given bad information. And possible Kate did cry at some point-although Tominey deliberately keeps it vague because whatever Kate cried about wasn’t to do with Meghan unlike Tominey’s original report. it really isn’t that deep but someone was committed to this tale as part of the Meghan character assassination & doesn’t like Kate portrayed as an aggressor which is why this story keeps going.

    Again shows the power over Kate’s image. The insistence that Meghan was the aggressor is a real Karen move & white tears has a history & present reality of danger for black/mixed race people so can understand why that story upset Meghan so much particularly if she was actually the victim.

    Glad Tominey admits that the peacemaker move was carefully choreographed for the cameras. Laughable that Tominey thinks Harry cares more about Kate’s feelings about truth being exposed then Meghan’s feelings about the lie being used against her.

  42. Amy Bee says:

    Well, at least they’re know admitting that Kate was intimidated by Meghan.

  43. Loretta says:

    This woman is embarassing.

  44. MerlinsMom1018 says:

    Goodgodalmighty.
    Are we sure that Mama Middleton didn’t write this herself?????

    • Dilettante says:

      Where’s Spy magazine when you really need it? This piece of 🤮 could be tweaked into great satire, as it’s almost there.

  45. Noor says:

    What a sorry state of affairs in the British Royal Family !! From the constant palace leaks to the tabloids by senior royals and their palace aides, the palace infighting and joustling for media attention etc show a Palace in complete disarray. All these silly stories about Kate Middleton as Queen. About time Prince Charles step up and maintain control as the King to be and Camilla as his consort.

    • Aaliyah says:

      So embarassing. I’ve never seen such a monarchy of clowns….Like everytime they do something, I cringe or shed a tear. And the carnival of tabloid gossipers propping them up too. I’m so exhausted of hearing about them and their antics…However it makes for good entertainement. I’m glad H and M left the circus though….

    • Marjorie K. Margel says:

      All this is true… except Charles took off for Wales to “reflect on his feelings”.

  46. Valiantly Varnished says:

    They’re really leaning into that scary black woman trope, huh?? These people truly do not and CANNOT get it and that’s why they will always lose with PR.

  47. Nic919 says:

    Kate was so intimidated by Meghan that she decided to freeze her out in full public view at the commonwealth service.

    These Queen in waiting articles are pathetic. All Kate did was put in a dress and jewels and went to a family funeral. These aren’t spectacular actions and the articles that praise her for doing nothing really show how empty she is.

    • Cecilia says:

      To them never putting a foot wrong = being mute

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kate hasn’t been mute. She has released plenty of info for the last 20 years, via the family connections to the tabloids, her mummy’s blatant interviews, Uncle Gary giving interviews attacking Meghan.

      • A says:

        The whole “never putting a foot wrong” line is just a meme at this point, honestly. Ma Midds should just retire it from her PR soundbite arsenal already, bc it’s clear that she falls back on a list of stock phrases whenever she puts one of these ridiculous articles out. More than anything, it’s a flat out attempt to erase the reality of Kate’s 20 years in the public eye, where she’s put PLENTY of feet wrong over the years. Ma Midds thinks we’re all f-cking stupid for some reason.

      • Nic919 says:

        It is a meme to say “never out a foot wrong” when there are actual photos of Kate’s private parts revealed on multiple occasions during royal engagements because she was too dumb to weight her skirts after the first incident.

        For all the cries of the “sex scenes” Meghan did as an actress, there is actually far less of Meghan revealed in the public sphere than there is of non actress Kate. Once again more projection, just like the yacht girl accusations.

  48. Jais says:

    Full confession- I didn’t start paying attention to royal news until Meghan came on the scene. Then, when the media started the whole competition build up between Meghan and Kate, I thought it was just hype and they were prob chill behind the scenes.
    But then…..the Flybe stunt and it was like omg they’re mothereffing in on it! “They” being William and Kate and now, esp. after the interview and the truth bout the crying story, I just think this is one very mean person. They both are but in this case I mean Kate is just truly mean and terrible. It’s so very sick and twisted, like something out of a bad movie, that you wouldn’t believe is actually real. But it is real.

    • S808 says:

      The Flybe stunt was a huge turning point. It confirmed for a lot of people here that W&K were a part of the smear campaign.

    • Nic919 says:

      Flybe was bad, but the commonwealth service sealed it. At that point you could not plausibly deny that Kate is actively involved in the attacks against Harry and Meghan.

  49. DS9 says:

    I am blown away that we’re giving her so much credit for doing what little southern girls learn to do by 6, be nice in church.

  50. Yvette says:

    (Shakes head in disbelief) If Shy, noble, ‘keen’ Kate was the one reduced to tears, why did she bring Meghan flowers with a note of apology?? Someone should ask Camilla Tominey to riddle us that.

    It seems that Kate’s problem with Meghan is the same problem William has with Harry–out classed and overshadowed by someone with natural charisma who is just being very much who they are. Meghan is a Leo, and owns it! Harry is a quadruple Earth sign–Sun in Virgo, Rising Sign in Capricorn, Moon in Taurus, and Venus in Taurus (I’ll be Hot Harry gives real good love) and he is extremely confident. Sorry! Astrology is an interest I’ve had most of my life and I just can’t shake it. :)

    And Kate, Sis? Shy introverted girls (which I don’t buy because Kate is a Capricorn) don’t prance on a runway wearing a see-through dress that looks more like a half slip pulled up over their chest so the hem hits them mid-thigh wearing nothing but skimpy black underwear and heels, all to catch the eye of a Prince.

    That description is from a picture in the ‘photo section’ in Robert Lacey’s book “Battle of Brothers” that you can probably find via Google … in fact, I just Googled ‘the photo of Kate Middleton on a runway in college wearing nothing but a slip and panties in front of William’ and got the image. It is much more dramatic in the book, because she’s walking down a runway in a dark room with la spotlight directly on her (if memory serves). I’ll bet the other girls were maaaddd at Kate.

  51. Tessa says:

    I am not a Camilla fan, but she behaved so much better at that funeral as did her sister in law Princess Anne who accompanied Charles in the walk to the Chapel. There is something so offputting about Kate,

    • Nic919 says:

      Everyone outside of Kate acted like people mourning at a funeral. You can barely find photos of Camilla but meanwhile Kate was everywhere. If we saw this then I am sure the rest of the family noticed her posing. She wasn’t subtle.

  52. FancyHat says:

    Lol looking at that stages photo of her looking right at the camera.

    And the idea that Harry gives a fuck about Kate at this point is laughable

  53. Kkat says:

    So their position is Kate has NEVER put a foot wrong in all these years….
    So they are saying all that literal ass showing she did for years was palace sanctioned??
    Good to know

    • Haylie says:

      To be fair, an ass is not a foot.

      That’s all I’ve got.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Haylie I legit just screamed at this comment. Can I quote you? Because “an ass is not a foot” is goddamn perfection

  54. TheOriginalMia says:

    I can still see Camilla T looking so dumbfounded and confused in that interview about Kate’s big lie. She absolutely couldn’t comprehend being lied to by Kate & Carole. But she was lied to and Meghan has the proof. Instead of backing away from the story, this trio of aggrieved, jealous and insecure white women have tripled down on the lie and ramped up the “Kate is all things to William and the BRF” stories.

    I’d feel sorry for Kate for being married to the rage monster if she wasn’t such an awful person with an equally awful mother. Of course, an accomplished Black woman was going to intimidate Kate. Someone who has been held up for doing the bare minimum, praised to the heavens for being a clothes dolly. Of course, she’d be hostile and manipulative and undermining of the Black Duchess. Kate’s got nothing else going for her other than white supremacy. She’s going to use that to her advantage.

  55. JustMe says:

    Anybody have Kate asking photograph me with a veil just like Meghan on their bingo card?

  56. Yvette says:

    Sorry, Kaiser! I forgot to include in my comment that Kate has a Leo Rising Sign in Leo, so I very much call B.S. on her shyness. But life shapes us in funny ways, so I could be wrong about that. The Leo Rising means that Kate and Meghan might clash and I’ll bet the barbs were flying fast and furious in that dressing room! Kate must have hurled a doozy to make Meghan cry.

    • 2cents says:

      I like your reading, Yvette!

      My astrological take is that Kate desperately wants to shine in public (her Leo rising ascendant) and that she is jealous of Meghan who shines authentically with her sun in Leo. This means Meghan has the natural charismatic essence of a Leo. Just like Barack Obama who was born on the same day. It’s genuine shine!

      To conclude: Kate is like the moon exhausting herself to outshine the sun (Meghan). This is the explanation why we see Kate constantly cosplaying Meghan. It’s futile and sad in a way.

      I hope Kate will understand the underlying mechanism and make peace with her inner self first before trying to be a peacemaker for others.

  57. Tessa says:

    That close up was creepy. Too bad nobody in that dysfunctional family complained about her attention seeking.

  58. Tessa says:

    Kate and Will’s big show of talking to Harry was very insidious doubling down on their spin that it is All Meghan’s fault. Just too gross for words.

  59. Amelie says:

    The only thing the media can say about Kate is she’s “the future Queen/Queen in waiting.” All other descriptions of her are all hyperbole: dignified, peacemaker, supportive, never a foot wrong, top CEO etc. She is probably introverted, I can tell by all the times she’s spoken in public that she hates public speaking and being the center of attention which I 100% relate to. She will never get comfortable–it’s been 10 years and while I have seen improvement I can still tell from her body language it’s something she hates. But she also gets very intimidated and insecure when someone like confident and capable Meghan comes along the scene. She doesn’t want the attention necessarily but she also doesn’t want to share it. She knows she has zero charisma and overall just isn’t that interesting. Without the royal spotlight, Kate is average and pretty dull. So she did the only thing she could think of which she has done her whole life: mean girl Meghan and threw her under the bus through the media. She is 100% trying to rehab her image since her very public bad behavior at the Commonwealth Ceremony.

    • Sofia says:

      As an introvert, I don’t think Kate’s one. I just think she doesn’t want to do any work and would prefer to just shop and work out all day. Nothing wrong with that but she’s married to the wrong man if that’s the life she wanted.

      She knew for 10 years she was going to marry the future future King. She knew she was going to have a public role if she married William. If the thought of doing speeches freaks her out to the point where she doesn’t want to do them or anything else since her engagement number are consistently low then again, she had 10 years to not only decide if that’s the life she wanted but 10 years and counting to improve. Which is what I would have done in her position.

      • iconoclast59 says:

        Diana wasn’t a very good public speaker when she became Princess of Wales. But you know what she did? She took LESSONS. She listened to her tutor, and practiced, practiced, practiced. I haven’t seen any evidence that Kate has even considered doing the same. She’s lazy and content to coast. And why shouldn’t she be, with a compliant media eager to kiss her oft-exposed ass?

    • carryrose says:

      Lol introvert wont flash your ass all the time. Introvert wont enter into fashion stage in underwear. She is lazy and hiding behind her head. She loves center of attention that’s why she dress the way she dress. She craves spotlight even in funeral with her tacky Pearl’s.

    • February-Pisces says:

      Introverts generally feel uncomfortable with any sort of attention. Kate thrives on attention, and when she’s isn’t getting any or is on a room with people with more star quality (Meghan lol), she can’t handle it. She just lacks social skills and has no friends to hang out with.

      • A says:

        That’s not true. The introvert-extrovert thing is not based on attention. Introverts gain their energy and “recharge” through solitude. Extroverts gain energy by being around other people. It’s also a spectrum, meaning no one is fully an introvert or an extrovert. There are degrees to which you can be both at once, it’s just a matter of how much.

        I’m an introvert through and through, but it doesn’t mean I am uncomfortable being around other people. It just means that those interactions are more draining for me, and I need to spend time alone afterwards to regain my energy. And I’m more able to thrive under certain types of attention than others, which people could very easily use to mistake me for an extrovert. For example, while it takes me a while to get going when it comes to making conversation/small-talk, once I start, I get really into it. However, picking up the phone to call my great-aunt is something that I really struggle to do, bc that interaction is just something that takes more energy from me to be “on” than chatting with a perfect stranger.

        Based on this definition, I don’t think that Kate qualifies as an introvert. We only hear that she’s still too afraid to do public engagements. We don’t hear things like, she prefers to spend time alone, or what sorts of solo activities she likes to engage in by herself. To me, what it sounds like is that she’s really just shy, and has retreated into a shell, even though she married into a role that requires her to be a public figure.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Nah, Kate LOVES being the center of attention. She makes sure to center herself at the family events and she clearly loves showing off for the red carpet and gala events. What she doesn’t like is doing anything of substance or typical bread and butter engagements. Those events have her looking bored and being awkward.

      • Nic919 says:

        She practically pushed Camilla out of the way to be centre stage at the first Trooping that Meghan attended when the Queen and the others were doing the military parade. That’s not a shy person. She just is bad at speeches and doesn’t like doing them because of her fake posh accent. Prior to that she was doing musicals in her teen years. A very shy person wouldn’t be able to handle that.

  60. Julia K says:

    When H&M have had enough the receipts will drop. After QE2 passes is my guess.

  61. February-Pisces says:

    So I did a tarot reading to see if kate was sexually interested in harry, and what I found was that she is kinda obsessed with him, and incredibly competitive with Meghan. The cards that I remember pulling were ‘devil’, ‘4 pentacles’, ‘ace wands’, ‘5 wands’, ‘hermit (harrys card), queen of wands (Meghan), 3 of swords and a few others. Anyway she’s interested in harry and definitely feels insecure by Meghan presence. I think she feels like if she can defeat Meghan then he will notice her. But the most notable card was the devil, she is literally obsessed with them as a couple and has somehow inserted herself into a love triangle with them, that no one invited her to. I remember seeing the 2 of wands, which is all about choices, and she thinks that harry has a choice of her or Meghan, lol. She doesn’t seem to realise there is no competition, she doesn’t even come close.

    • Sigmund says:

      Interesting! It definitely would not surprise me that she had/has some kind of weird fixation on Harry. He’s good looking, charming, kind, and loyal to his partner, and her husband is decidedly not any of those things.

    • Jessie says:

      Interesting take! I’ve read that Kate and Harry’s sun signs are thought to be twin flames, so that could be another layer as to why Kate has seemingly imprinted on another woman’s husband.

    • Nick G says:

      February-Pisces that’s so interesting. I’m going to go look up all those cards you pulled.

    • February-Pisces says:

      I did a couple of readings and the devil came out a few times. I also had the ‘magician’ with the ‘2cups’ and ‘king wands’ which to me seems like she’s determined to manifest some sort of physical connection with harry. Wands are all physical and very sexual. I also had queen of wands (Meghan) with 9 swords and 7 swords, which to me suggests she’s always thinking about Meghan in a devious negative way. It’s like it keeps her awake a night thinking how she’s gonna get rid of her.

      Kate is just very very insecure, it really bothers her that harry is so into Meghan and doesn’t look twice at her. She thinks if she can somehow get rid of her she in with a chance.

      When I saw her looking at him during the funeral, it was like she was desperate to get near him.

      • Nick says:

        Hence Kate’s makeup and jewellery, unusually heavy/provocative for a funeral. She was going to see Harry.

    • Lemons says:

      I love reading your tarot readings because they always feel so on the nose. “…she is literally obsessed with them as a couple and has somehow inserted herself into a love triangle with them, that no one invited her to.” <– Kate gives so much of this type of energy in all that she does.

  62. Likeyoucare says:

    What happen after 20 years then, will kate use this story about meghan make her cry once upon a time?
    Doesn’t the brits worry that their future queen is such a weak woman.
    How can she be your delegate with other royals or representatives from other countries?
    She cant even string a sentence without looking at cue cards.

  63. MsIam says:

    Kate is one tiresome b*tch. And I don’t think she will ever change, even if a meteor fell on her head. Not when she has sycophants like Tominey and Nicholl in the press and her stage manager mother. Two oceans wouldn’t be enough space between me and her. She’s like Samantha, you just have to cut folks like that out of your life. Let her go “queen” all by herself.

  64. L4frimaire says:

    This whole article could be rebutted with receipts but someone with more knowledge will have to get into that. Tominey seems to forget how Kate continually threw Meghan under the bus. They can’t write anything on Kate without disparaging Meghan. Remember the Tatler article? After that came out, KP had so much of that article scrubbed and censored. However, it did not remove one disparaging word toward Meghan, not one. Also the Sussexes Set podcast made an interesting point about the crying story. People are dwelling on the fact that Kate actually made Meghan cry, and Kate is so invested in holding onto that false crying narrative. However, in the O interview Meghan made a point that while others were being supportive with her dad drama and stress, she couldn’t understand why Kate couldn’t do the same. Kate is in it for herself and has always wanted to be a shiny star. A lot of people noticed how nice Beatrice looked at funeral. If she starts getting press attention because of a glow up, watch what the press over there will start doing.

    • Harper says:

      I agree that those comments by Meghan about Kate were very damning. Meghan said Kate knew what Meghan was going through with her dad and she didn’t get why Kate couldn’t read the situation and back off considering everything else that was going on.

  65. Jay says:

    I’m also just noticing that one of the qualities they’re praising here is that Kate is just like
    “Harry’s famously conflict-avoiding grandmother”! WTF?
    Since when is being a leader who is known for covering up or ignoring problems a good thing? Not addressing or fixing issue and hoping they just go away is kind of what got us to this point in the first place, right?

    • Tessa says:

      The Queen ostriches. She ignored Margaret’s issues re: Townsend until it came to a crisis. She did the same thing during the breakdown of Charles and Diana’s marriage.And she’s ignoring the problems of Andrew and sheltering him.

    • Tessa says:

      The Queen ostriches. She ignored Margaret’s issues re: Townsend until it came to a crisis. She did the same thing during the breakdown of Charles and Diana’s marriage.And she’s ignoring the problems of Andrew and sheltering him.

  66. Nina says:

    Why does she always look like she shopped at a 1940′s store. Her clothes are so dull. That outfit looks like something my grandmother would’ve worn in her youth

    • FicklePickle says:

      I was torn between early 1940s and the early 1910s on Kate’s look. There are some fashion plates for walking dresses from 1913 especially that feel SO MUCH like this funeral outfit it is unreal.

  67. Elle says:

    I know a lot of the jealousy was over Meghan’s work ethic and her relationship with Harry but I also have to say on a more superficial level that I think Meghan is so stunningly gorgeous that it had to irk someone as petty as Kate.

    • Robin says:

      Yep. Kate’s envy started from the outset. It was encouraged by her mother, who should have helped temper it. The moment that summed it up for me was when Kate got “papped” in a turquoise coat the day or two after Meghan had worn the same colour on her farewell tour. It was, “Look at me, my mum says I look better than Meghan!” Thing is, Kate has nothing to counter Meghan with – personality, work history or looks wise.

    • February-Pisces says:

      Yep definitely. I think both Meghan and Kate are attractive women in a completely different way. Meghan is more hot, sexy, charismatic sort of beautiful, Kate is more plain Jane sort of attractive. I think kate looked stunning during her peak when she was a more healthy weight, but has aged very prematurely, whilst Meghan could pass for a decade younger than her age.

      One thing that makes kate really unattractive is her desperate insecurity. Trying to destroy a women because she’s beautiful only makes her look ugly, not Meghan.

      Kate really needs to get some sort of therapy because her issues seems to be wild. The more insecure she feels the more weight she seems to lose, like she will feel better if she’s thinner. She literally destroying herself.

      • A says:

        Kate, back in her early days, before she married William, not only looked a lot better, but had a better sense of style and fashion than she does now. She wasn’t exactly the most confident and secure person around at that time either, but she sure looked it somehow in the pap photos, and I honestly think her mental health was much better before she married into the RF. It also makes sense why she kept running off to Berkshires in the early years of her marriage, and why she has her mummy around all the time to hold her hand. I do think that her mental health took a big hit, and it still hasn’t fully recovered since she married William. If anything, given the state of their marriage, it’s possibly gotten worse somehow.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        Early on there were rumours that Kate had trouble adjusting to royal life. Honestly, I think it is in general bad for a person’s mental health to marry into that family.

      • Nic919 says:

        Seeing at how she’s physically shrunk since the start of her marriage, it’s safe to say that she’s still having issues. There is nothing that screams well adjusted woman in her demeanour.

  68. Andrew’s Nemesis says:

    This woman uses dead people to increase her profile. She lies by omission for three years about her b*tch moves towards her sister-in-law and then plays the victim. She spends money like water and does nothing to merit it. She is cold, hard and dull. She is irredeemable.
    I hope Camilla puts out just enough PR to deflate this horrible woman’s ego for once and for all. She needs to be brought down.

  69. Robin says:

    And this, ladies and gentleman, is the “woman” who is going to see the UK monarchy through the next few decades. Someone who goes on about crying. If Kate Middleton were to walk away from the royal family at this point, what would her legacy be? It’d be nothing, apart from gurning, mumbling, throwing stupid stories into the grubby paws of the tabloids, and being so silly and nasty that her quasi sister in law said, enough, you’re welcome to it. Does Kate Middleton not hear the childlike pettiness of what she is saying? She is almost pre Victorian in her understanding of the monarchy. Modern women left this kind of nonsense behind a long time ago. She is, to put it bluntly, a waste of British money.

    • A says:

      Hey now, she doesn’t just go on about crying. She’s also capable of, er, casting “maternal” looks across the aisle of the church in Harry’s direction, and also *squints* “subtly moving aside” in a choreographed move to allow the papparazzi to get the money shot they’d been waiting for.

  70. lanne says:

    Kate wanted the stage for herself. She was the “only woman not like the other ones cool girls” ever since college. She chased every woman who might have befriended her away because any other woman was a rival to her position. Meghan made Kate look like the lazy, jealous, empty-headed fool that she is, and Kate has leaned hard into the Fragile White Woman narrative. Since there could be only one, it was gonna be her, and if she has to starve herself to death and shrink her personality to fit, then gosh darn it, she’s going to have her role.

    She’s now learning what all Cool Girls learn. She has traded the ability to gain respect for her social status (or what would be “likeability” for a non-royal). Ultimately though, she just another Some Bitch, as all Cool Girls are when the tides turn against them.

    My guess is that she’s eaten alive by jealousy of Meghan. Meghan has everything that Kate THOUGHT she was gaining: a husband who adores her, status, wealth, a community of good friends, and powerful allies. Kate has none of these things on her own terms. Who are her friends? her allies? Her status and wealth are tied completely to her husband, and she’s vulnerable to whatever decisions he makes. Windsor men aren’t exactly known for loyalty or fidelity. I would feel sorry for her if she wasn’t so adamant about being The Only One and buying into the patriarchy that has turned her into nothing more than a human barbie doll.

    Kate, you’ve got the center stage all to yourself. Dance, girl, dance. It’s what you wanted, right? Hope it works out for you!

    • A says:

      She hasn’t leaned into it, she IS the epitome of a Fragile White Woman.

      And when it comes to jealousy, I don’t think Kate is jealous in particular of any one thing in Meghan’s life. I think Kate can’t stand that Meghan is happy and successful, and most of all, secure in who she is as a person. People like Kate don’t look at the particulars. They just can’t stand you for being happy in any capacity, bc their whole estimation of their own self-worth is not based on thinking well of themselves and being confident in themselves, but on tearing down others around them.

    • sunny says:

      Yes to all of this. I said this awhile back and I stand by it, Kate is the living embodiment of the white woman buys into white male patriarchy thinking it will protect her. Ultimately it won’t, she will be screwed by it as well but she is to selfish and stupid to realize it.

      I want to feel sorry for her because her husband is awful and she seems so isolated but she is cruel and dangerously obsessive and fragile. It just leaves me scratching my head. I hope she gets help one day.

  71. carryrose says:

    Thanks feburary for tarot reading. I’m tarot reader too. I predict Sussex walking away long before they announce. Before that I was not that confident in my reading. After that and many things I read
    for brf comes true. So this is my take.

    P.s This is for entertainment purposes alone.

    1. What’s up with Kate pr lately ??
    Temperance – they are quietly trying to balance her image as good person she is.

    2. How the world view her now ??
    4 of cups – boring and stuckup and nothing is enough. When you look at the image for this 4 of cups the person sit under the tree bored with three cups . Like three cup not enough . ( lol I think this of william is not enough she wants harry too).

    3. How the world see her in the future like globally ??

    Two of swords – for me it’s a person making bad moves or bad decision. Because in the image the person with blindfold has to decide which direction.

    Followed by three of wands – alone in the world like all alone.
    I ask why all alone ?? I got
    Followed by = The moon card – secrets ,
    Followed by =Secrets about followed by 6 of cups – things from the past or something to do with children.
    Followed by = judgement card means people judging you means in negative way. People use judge when the famous one secrew up in public.
    Followed by 4 of swords= hiding from public.

    I asked what secrets ?
    Ace of cups -this reading it indicates marraige. Some secrets abt marraige
    Followed by king of pentacles – which is william or charles . I’m not getting correct answer.
    Either william or charles will leak to press something about her which she did during her marraige year. This card kind of indicates she is kind of separate from William.

    She kind of looks alone so ask the next question.

    4. What is the future of her marraige ??

    This is based on current enegry. All of followed by one another.

    5 of wands – she will fight to bitter end because she waited for this long and she wont go down without any fight.

    Devil card – this is bad card for marriage . The devil means together because of toxic relationship . Chained together because of bad marraige.

    The five of pentacles – leaving marriage with no money or status.

    Wheel of fortune – letting karma do its work . Nothing you cant do about it.

    8 of swords- feeling victim (lol)

    King of pentacles – lost the money and status which she dreamed off.

    Strlength- trying to be strong . Some people says she is leo rising which is why she clash with Meghan.

    The two of wand – thinking about the world and worrying. Sometimes it’s about sex ( not in this reading ).

    The ten of cups – for the world she created this image as loving family and thinking about that image.

    7 of pentacles – this is what she wants . Happy family with title and status.

    Lovers card – which is usually about love or union or commitment in marraige . In this it is interesting because I read this as Kate willing to accept William affair .

    For me in marraige reading lovers cards means affair.

    This followed by
    6 of pentacles – which is all about balance. For me this seems like Kate willing to look other way to have the balance in her marraige.

    9 of pentacles – which is my rose card. Each reader have different cards. For me this card screams rose because when you google the image it shows the woman in beautiful dress with everything she wants . Kate is intimated by rose and her influnces over William and his circle. She has everything kate wants.

    Page of cups – I think William is offering something to rose which leads kate to three of words – heart broken.

    Page of swords – some information is hidden from public eye for now.

    High priestess – things we do in the secrets.

    Hanged man – waiting for something.

    The fool – which is new beginning sometimes or risk taker or children. I dont know if bill will get rose pregnant. Look out for that.

    The pregnant is not coming for catherine. Whenever I ask the question the 9 of pentacles rose card show up for strange reason.

    I also didnt get clear divorce answer now. I get that wish washy enegry. No solid answer as divorce or no divorce. It’s pretty much like up in the air . Like go with the flow.

    5. I ask if her stans will see the mean girl kate is she ??

    Knight of pentacles – yes . But this is the show moving knight which is it will take time but surely this will happen .

    9 of wands – first they resist like the person in the picture. He will accept his karma in the 9th wand . They will surely accept with many receipts comes out.

    Anyways thanks for celebitchy and readers for reading this.

    • swirlmamad says:

      I find these readings by you and @February-Pisces so interesting!!!

    • February-Pisces says:

      @carryrose thank you, Yes, I’ve had very similar readings. I regards to the Keens marriage, the outcome is still undecided. It’s always 2 wands or judgment. It’s like it’s still up in the air, but their actual marriage is always bad. The 5 of wands with the devil is interesting, I think the Keens will definitely battle over who has control in their marriage. Even though we all know Willie is boss, keen is a dirty player and definitely won’t go down without a fight.

      I always get a ‘queen of cups’ in their readings, I think it’s rose cos she’s a Pisces, and she always shows up as Kate’s worst enemy (even more than Meghan), but as williams happiness. I think kate did something to their relationship which may have caused them to break up, but I don’t think it’s over for good. But there is definitely another woman there. I sometimes get that Kate likes to show off with regards to what she did to Meghan, like it’s her ways of saying to rose “look at what I can do , and I’ll do the same to you”, it’s Kate’s way of feeling powerful.

      I’ve looked at how the public will see her too and I do get something similar. The best kate can get is 4 of cups, apathy is better than hate for her. I feel more secrets about her behaviour will be leaked and people will start to see her differently. I don’t really see her staying in the public eye forever, I think if they do divorce she will just fade into obscurity out of shame.

    • Lyra says:

      Great reading. I just need to say that by astrology, in synastry, having the same rising sign in the same sun of another, in this case Kate’s Leo rising with Meghan’s Leo sun indicates a good connection so I don’t think Kate’s rising sign is Leo, but instead cancer.

  72. Sparky says:

    This morning it occurred to me that Kate’s mask is bespoke and designed to show as much of her face as possible but still meet the basic mask requirements. Herr mask that covers less of her cheeks than is normal and highlights her eyes.

    • ennie says:

      .. and cover any signs of aging re: jowls, lines.

    • Which would make sense, SPARKY, as she almost never wears a mask. Thus, she would wear a custom designed one for these posed photos by her personal photographer. Nothing like using the dead patriarch of your royal family for a photo op.

  73. Shannon says:

    At this point, I’m ready for QEII to bite the bullet if only to reveal the incredible pettiness of this family. Once she’s gone the knives will come out in the media in some sort of bizarre Hunger Games for the surviving members.

  74. Cottage Cat says:

    They tried Middleton out with world leaders. On meeting with Angela Merkel who spoke to her in German. Kate got flustered, blurted out that she “didn’t understand German”; hence her subsequent “appointments” with nursery children and “designing gardens”. Nobody had heard of her before she targeted William. Many had heard of Meghan without a “Royal” man to make her happen.

  75. Cessily says:

    This is a beyond ridiculous Meghan was an American biracial non-aristocrat but poor Kate was intimidated??
    ( side note to kates team: This along with the petty crying story are ridiculous.. grow up and stop these stories they are making you seem childish and your pr very unprofessional)

  76. Cessily says:

    This is a beyond ridiculous Meghan was an American biracial non-aristocrat but poor Kate was intimidated??
    ( side note to kates team: This along with the petty crying story are ridiculous.. grow up and stop these stories they are making you seem childish and your pr very unprofessional)

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      Well, newcomers with fully formed ideas of their own might have that effect on people who seem inclined to allow their momager speak for them. The continuation of the crying story disputes the idea of her being a “rock”.

  77. ennie says:

    See, she is not denying she made Meghan cry, she is just stating that she was in tears (too).
    Of course she would be in tears Prince Hot Ginge was getting married. Silly katie!

  78. Over it says:

    People working in general intimidates Kate. Her motto is why work when I can just shop?

    • Eleonora says:

      Imagine if people with just an average willigness to work and an average interest in helping others would have had the opportunities William and Kate had. Imagine how much good would have been done.

      Unfortunately, they are far below average.

  79. Mel says:

    If I had $10 for every time someone at work said this to me, I wouldn’t have to work anymore. If you aren’t constantly smiling or interested in every little thing they have to say, some people can’t take it.

  80. paddingtonjr says:

    How is being “intimidated” by a successful, intelligent woman a good look for the Keen Qween? CP Victoria and Queen Letitiza, to name two, are accomplished, educated women who have managed to do their jobs while raising children and have successful marriages. The spouses of diplomats, military, etc. Katie will receive as PoW and QC are more likely to be educated people with their own careers either before or during their marriages. How is she going to interact with them if the mere thought of tights brings her to tears (according to her) and is an injustice of such magnitude that she has continually talk about it even after she’s been called out? Seriously, who cares who made who cry? Kate put her story out, Meghan countered but made Kate look good by saying she had apologized. Next!

  81. A says:

    This article feels like a backhanded compliment to me It’s got quite a “compliments” towards Kate that don’t really land in a flattering way at all.

    ‘“Waity Katie” showed just how much she shares what Prince Philip once described as the Queen’s “abundance of tolerance” –Except this “tolerance” that Prince Philip was referring to was “tolerance” for his racism, his repeated public gaffes, including his considerable rudeness to people, as well as tolerance for his numerous affairs and dalliances on the side. So what exactly is being said here? That Waity is tolerant of racism, rudeness, and her husband wh-ring his way around Norfolk? Is that it?

    “And while it may all have been choreographed knowing the cameras would be trained on the trio” — This is really just saying the quiet part out loud, isn’t it. And it’s supposed to make Kate look good? Bc she went along with it? Really?

    “The chasm between the introverted Home Counties girl and the extroverted star of US legal drama Suits” — “Home Counties” girl? Excuse me? Wtf is this latest title even. Is this supposed to make Kate relatable to the Telegraph’s audience, which is…primarily people who are from the Home Counties? Isn’t this something that posh southern Tory types try to insist they’re not? What is the point of referring to her as this, really?

    “Kate spent 10 years as a girlfriend learning the ropes. Everything happened much more quickly with Harry and Meghan, who entered the Royal scene with her own, fully-formed ideas. I think Kate found her quite intimidating.” — This is the real lynchpin of the whole debacle. And again, this is not flattering to Kate at all. It makes it sound like Kate was 10 years too slow on the uptake, while Meghan blazed onto the scene.

    Also, calling the resident black woman “intimidating”, for doing nothing except be herself, which is to be excellent? Groundbreaking. Waity really is the poster child for fragile white women, isn’t she. F-cking idiot.

    “The parallels between unflappable Kate and Harry’s famously conflict-avoiding grandmother are becoming increasingly uncanny” — Anyone who has followed the royals beyond a cursory interest would know that “conflict-avoidance” is not one of the Queen’s strengths. It’s her biggest, most significant weakness, her most profound moral failure. Her failure to confront conflict is how we got Andrew, and how she lost so much popularity after Diana died. This is not a good thing.

    So, to recap, Camilla Tominey managed to refer to Kate as a sheltered, introverted, little England ninny, whose whole effort to “smooth over” the conflict was a choreographed PR stunt for the paps.

    With the whole Kate-made-Meghan-cry story, I’ll bet Kate used the exact same dialogue Sharon used after Elaine started tearing up to justify peddling her sack of sh-t to the press. “I might have made Meghan cry, but really, if anyone should have been crying, it’s ME, bc of how intimidated I was by Meghan’s very existence!!!! So really, it was HER who made ME cry, even though it didn’t ACTUALLY happen, it’s what it FELT LIKE to ME, so that makes it the truth, ok!!! And Meghan setting the record straight even though I’M in the wrong makes me feel REALLY REALLY BAD, so it’s pretty much like she’s still making me cry, so who cares!!! It might all be figurative, but IT COULD HAVE POSSIBLY ACTUALLY HAPPENED, MAYBE, which is what counts!!! The real person you should feel bad for is ME ME ME ME ME ME ME!!!!!!!!”

    The absolute nerve of this dusty white b-tch, and her whole Klan by marriage, for being butthurt abt getting called out as the racists they really are, is astonishing.

    • Tessa says:

      Kate “learning the ropes” seems to have consisted of going to clubs with William, going on super pricey vacations with him and sometimes taking her family along. He would break up with her and if things had worked out for him and Jecca or some other lady, Kate would have been OUT.

    • ennie says:

      It is really embarrassing to say the she prepared for years and years, only to be intimidated by an accomplished woman, she should’ve felt she was her equal, IF Kate is really all that a rock, etc.
      Like someone said upthread, she is going to be (has been for years, supposedly) dealing with prepared, successful women, be as leaders, scientists, activists, academics, even wives of other accomplished women. Her public is not going to be only 5 year olds and under, or maybe those are the only ones she can deal wth.

      • Haylie says:

        15 year old Leonor, future queen of Spain, is running laps around Kate. Honestly, it’s embarrassing the way they baby this 40 year old woman.

    • Greywacke says:

      It seems like the Tatler takedown piece, likely because CT is irked that she was lied to and embarrassed by Kate.

    • Shannon says:

      Excellent post!

  82. Ann says:

    OK, so I just looked up the photo…..the one of Kate in that dress. Which was not a dress but something sheer over her underwear, on the runway at St. Andrews. Apparently she was supposed to wear something else but altered it so she could flash her body more.

    Now, I don’t care that she walked down a runway in a skimpy outfit. That’s not my business, she was young and having fun, so what? But when you read about it in context, it seems desperate. Desperate to get William’s attention.

    And wow, she really DID stalk him. That is just so weird.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      According to the designer, it was supposed to be a mesh skirt with proper lining underneath. Kate chose to forgo the lining and wear the skirt as a “dress”.

  83. Nyro says:

    She’s disappearing right before our eyes. Her outfit looked so boring next to the other women because it looked like how clothes look when they’re in the hanger.

  84. square_bologna says:

    Oh my f**king God, what did I just read? 🙄

    Anybody think the PR people are trolling us at this point? 🤔

  85. Carolind says:

    The “dress” that Kate wore at the St Andrew’s fashion show was a skirt.

  86. Lucky Charm says:

    “We’re still going to be talking about crying at a bridesmaids’ fitting in 2025, I hope everyone knows that.”

    Ha, they’re still going to be talking about that at Charlotte’s wedding! “At Princess Charlotte’s fitting for her wedding dress, she tearfully recalls when her Uncle Harry got married, and his bride-to-be made her mother cry!”

    • Carabella says:

      I hope Charlotte’s wedding to her bodyguard will be in Nowhereville without a single “royal reporter” attending.

  87. Tessa says:

    I read she trotted out George and Charlotte and took them shopping.

    • Likeyoucare says:

      I hope one of those children;
      george, charlotte or the other one
      Fall in love and get married with an asean, athiest or a muslim.
      Willie will get a stroke thinking what colour his grandchildren will be?

  88. J.Mo says:

    Fan Fiction

  89. Kate is mad because she’s overshadowed by Meghan big time all the time. Meghan puts a light on Kate’s insecurities, laziness, and dullness. This is why she’s intimidated. Camilla Tominey and the rest of the British media are furious with Meghan because she’s not at all in awe of Kate. She’s showed no reverence to William, too. And showed NO BIT OF RESPECT for the British media. Meghan is not intimidated by them all bullies.

  90. Mrs.Krabapple says:

    I’ve been wondering, if asked to articulate what makes Kate a “rock,” whether anyone could answer? I mean, she puts up with a lot from her husband (roses, indifference, etc.) — so is that what makes her rock-like? Is the word “rock” their way of acknowledging that Kate is viewed as a doormat, and they are trying to come up with a more pleasant euphemism than “doormat”?

    Because to me, a “rock” wouldn’t let things affect her (like, the Queen is a true rock). But CLEARLY Kate lets things affect her. Whether it’s CRYING because SHE made Meghan cry first, or being hurt that Meghan finally told the truth. or whether it’s her botox, facial work, and weight loss — it all points to a woman who is unhappy with either herself or her life. That’s not a “rock,” is it? Maybe I’m missing something.

  91. Wadsworth the Butler says:

    Kate gave the impression of being the only person at the service deliberately trying to call attention to herself. It was all a bit much. The coat, the pearls, the hat, the mask. I detected the very heavy hand of Carole. She was also the only person who tried to interject herself into Harry and William’s interactions, whereas the entire rest of the family seemed to be deliberately giving them space. I can easily imagine certain members of the Norfolk set being very amused by that spectacle.

  92. Kit says:

    The Royals need to fire their clearly outdated, old school PR team. The public is made up of much saavier media consumers and a much more nuanced landscape than it was in the early 90s or the 80s or the 40s.

    It is stunning to me that they don’t realize how utterly transparent their attempts at rehabbing the Cambridge reputation is and that by inundating us with a deluge of pieces trying to paint Kate as some beautiful, peacemaking future queen who just wants all to be right in the palace that they are CONFIRMING THE SUSSEX NARRATIVE. They CAN and DO comment and spin when it suits them and when they think the principal needs protecting. Clearly Kate needs protecting because in 10 years I’ve never seen this many stories on this woman. She’s never been seen going to vigils to support victims or having piece on the front page of Yahoo News about how she’s worried for her children.

    It would’ve done them better to NOT COMMENT and keep the same energy they had when it was Meghan being dragged through the mud … which is to say none. Even if you doubted the Sussexes or thought they were taking things to seriously, the fact that Royal PR *immediately* started releasing stories about Kate literally proves the point that they simply thought Meg wasn’t worth protecting. And seriously, how dumb do they think we are??

    • Lucylee says:

      No self respecting PR firm is going to take the job because the royal rota would have to start respecting boundaries. The current RF relationship with the media is a deal with the devil .

    • Demi says:

      I’m thinking how long before the public gets sick of this perfect future queenie kate & the excessive praise before the press starts giving more juicy stories about William cheating& affair these articles by Camilla won’t sell forever the press knows they need to give scandals that what sells.. like Charles& Di

  93. Alexandria says:

    Deadbeat Chuck, No Sweat Andrew, KKKate Guevara and Incandescent TOB embody the British Royal Family perfectly. They are perfect representatives of the UK.

  94. dc says:

    I very much doubt she’ll ever be queen. If Charles takes over when the Queen dies – say in five years – he’ll be 77yrs old. The UK folks who loved the Queen do not love Charles. He’ll botch it up. Somewhere down the road, support for the Monarchy will dwindle, and it will somehow be whittled down to a pale version of its former glory. The younger generation have no time for all that pomp, certainly not on tax payer’s money. They’ll be wealthy, but without an official role in the constitution of the country.

  95. Amelia says:

    Kate still insists or Camilla Tominey still insists because honestly I really feel like it’s the latter.(although I would’ve be surprised if it was the former. In the past I would’ve been because I actually used to like Kate but that was before she didn’t welcome my fave aka Meghan of whom I was a fan of way before PH)

  96. Mooshe1 says:

    The only thing Camilla’s convinced me of is that Karen has a crush on Haz. Constantly glancing at him and managing to stay at HIS side instead of her husband’s? She looked way too excited for being at a funeral. If Meghan had been there Kate would have been a different person

  97. MangoAngelesque says:

    Kate’s mean-girl antics almost make me wish Harry and Meghan would name their daughter Rose. Middle name, at least.

  98. Dawning says:

    The tabloids must think the British people are daft for believing this simpering drivel.
    The only part I believe is that Kmart felt intimidated by Meghan. Of course she would, Meghan is brilliant and forward-thinking. She was already worth millions before marrying Harry. Meg was working twice as much as Kmart while pregnant with Archie. She is a result-oriented energetic woman. Of course Kmart couldn’t measure up to Meghan so she felt intimidated.

  99. Robin says:

    Is there another Robin on here? This wasn’t my comment. Hello to the other robin!