Courtney Stodden: Chrissy Teigen privately DM’d me & told me to ‘kill myself’

Courtney Stodden walks her dog in Moorpark in Studio City

Courtney Stodden finalized their divorce from Doug Hutchinson in March 2020. They were married in 2011, when Stodden was just 16 years old. Stodden is 26 years old now, divorced for more than a year and still dealing with the aftermath of all of the trauma they suffered for a decade. From being groomed by a 50-year-old when Stodden was just 16, to their parents letting Stodden marry him, to being emotionally abused by a raging alcoholic, to being financially abused by Doug, and on and on. Courtney has written a memoir about all of the sh-t that’s happened in the past decade, and Stodden spoke with the Daily Beast about it. Stodden was asked specifically about Chrissy Teigen, whom Stodden called out in March of this year for Teigen’s abusive tweets. Some highlights from the Daily Beast:

Why the divorce took so long: “It was a lot of things, but mainly it was that I was still being groomed. It took me a really long time to understand what “grooming” even meant, because if you would have asked me what grooming meant when I married Doug, I would have said, “Take your dog to the groomers?” I didn’t know what it meant. But as I grew into a woman, I started realizing what happened to me…It took me a really, really long time to understand what happened to me, and I’m still going through the repercussions of being groomed.

Hutchinson gaslighted Stodden for years: “There were several different moments when I felt something wasn’t right, and there were several different moments where I felt abused and disrespected. I felt crazy almost, and he was great at gaslighting me—I know a lot of groomers are great at that. He’s a severe alcoholic, and I didn’t know that when I met him. He told me everything a young girl would want to hear from somebody she’s craving love from, and when I got married to him, he changed. And he knew he had me where he wanted me, because he’s a master groomer.”

Hutchinson has been grooming another teenager: “A stepmother of a 15-year-old girl contacted me and told me that Doug was grooming her. This was about a month after we got a divorce that I found out he was communicating, sexually or otherwise, with a 15-year-old girl from the U.K. It was so devastating, because not only did I realize who this guy really is and what happened to me, but that I wasn’t special.

On Chrissy Teigen telling Stodden to take a “dirt nap.” “She wouldn’t just publicly tweet about wanting me to take “a dirt nap” but would privately DM me and tell me to kill myself. Things like, “I can’t wait for you to die.” And not only her, but Joy Behar had a field day with calling me a “slut.” Courtney Love told me I was a “whore.” People came out of the woodwork to beat up on a kid because she was in a situation that she shouldn’t have been in. There were a lot of celebrities acting like playground bullies. Some of the worst treatment I got was from women, and we’re not going to get anywhere if we keep holding each other back.

Whether anyone has apologized: “You know, one of the biggest surprises is that all of the celebrities who shamed me—other than Perez Hilton, who stood up and was kind—they have not sought to apologize or sent any kind of love my way. The majority of love and apologies have come from reporters and also people online who tell me that they appreciate me and love me, and that I’m a source of strength for them. And that means everything to me.

[From The Daily Beast]

When Stodden called out Teigen in March for Teigen’s old tweets, I ended up looking through all of the sh-t Teigen said publicly, in tweets, out in the open. It wasn’t just one or two tweets, Teigen had a real thing about harassing Stodden for a few years, especially 2011 and 2012. Chrissy openly told Stodden to die on Twitter. And then Chrissy was DMing Stodden to encourage Stodden to kill herself? Jesus Christ. If the DMs happened during that same time frame, Stodden would have only been 16 or 17 years old. Who does that?

The predictable conservatives are trying to make the Chrissy Teigen thing into a political issue. It’s one of those things where they expect Hollywood liberals to fight for Chrissy Teigen or something. I genuinely believe that we can all come together as a nation, blue states and red states, and agree that Chrissy Teigen is f–king awful for this.

Chrissy Teigen leaves GMA studios with her daughter Luna

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  1. Jen says:

    Stodden’s non-binary and goes by they-them pronouns.

    • Ragna says:

      The article that the quote is from says as much in it’s first paragraph, so I’m not sure why the author of this article isn’t using the correct pronouns 🤷‍♀️

  2. Jezz says:

    Sorry I need background here. Who is this girl and why was CT being such a monster to her???

    • minx says:

      You can Google her.

      • Jennifer says:

        Sometimes people want to talk to other people.

      • minx says:

        There’s a lot of background here, that’s what I’m saying.

      • Jezz says:

        Wow @minx, sorry to bother you!. I did Google and still don’t understand why A list celebs are calling them a slut etc.

      • Aphra says:

        I don’t get it either. AND i’m happy to chat about it here ;)

      • Honey says:

        The jest of it is that she got famous for marrying a 50 year old man at 16 years old. Like a lot of celebrities, they are famous for being provocative and outrageous and eventually famous for being famous, if that makes sense.

        I thought it was all gross since I was in my earlier 20s but looking back, Courtney needed saving by at least her parents. Also, Chrissy is complete trash. She was old enough to know better even back in 2011. Top put that much energy into hating another person so publicly, Chrissy needs more therapy.

      • E.B. Mann says:

        Jezz, please, my fellow ‘bitch, she’s 26 & no longer a “girl.” Yes, she was a girl when she started being groomed (which is obviously the poor WOMAN’s fav new word), but now she is a grown-ass woman. If y’all are going to go to the trouble of assigning her the pronouns she prefers, then please stop infantilizing her (or anyone else). It’s so last century.

    • Becks1 says:

      They were 16 years old when they got married to a 51 year old man and then appeared in reality shows etc. I wasn’t following it super closely though and didn’t realize they had divorced until very recently.

      • Willa says:

        👍👍🏚 Thank you.

      • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

        Didn’t their parents have some shady hand in the grooming? I seem to recall something about money after the fact? I certainly could be wrong.

        Chrissy has A LOT to explain. Jesus.

      • DuchessL says:

        And they were also so obviously calling famewhoring, calling the paps, it was everywhere. Stodden had that barbie style and hutchison was …51. The narrative around it was very sexual and seemed focus on fame. It was very in your face kinda of PR.

      • bettyrose says:

        And didn’t they record a song with lyrics that basically talked about how hard it is to be so beautiful and they wish other women would be her friend instead of hating on her? She was this little girl (now non-binary adult) who lacked all self awareness while being completely exploited by the adults in her life. It was and is a tragic situation.

    • Abby says:

      If you click on the “Courtney Stodden” tag at the top of this post you can see some other stories on CB about her. It’s a tragic case of a young girl being basically trafficked by her mom into a marriage with a 50-year-old former celebrity. She was propped up as a sex toy for years when she was SO YOUNG. It’s very sad.

      • Abby says:

        I’m sorry, I forgot about the non-binary terms and now I can’t edit. :-(

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        Courtney’s story is sad. Way back when I wondered about the parent/s-didn’t realize the parent/s were part of the problem.

        Chrissy Teigen uggh I can’t even express the level of disgust I’m feeling about the things she wrote and the frequency. It’s just horrific.

    • Brittany says:

      Maybe because Chrissy is a mean girl?

      It isn’t Courtney’s fault, they didn’t deserve to be told to take a dirt nap or go to sleep forever.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        CT is a social media mean girl. She will type it, but not say it to your face. And if you call her out enough she “quits” social media and cries she’s being bullied. Then comes back weeks later. Wash, Rinse, dry, repeat.

      • Char says:

        Chrissy is desperate and a bully, but everyone just keep enabling her because she is “so real”. Everytime she’s called out, she fake cries and leave Twitter acting as a victim. If she was a singer, she would be the one writing songs where women seem as rivals are called “whores” while you cry feminism when not supported.

      • Jules says:

        @char- exactly!

    • Aang says:

      I did just google her and the story is so sad. But I still have no context as to why Chrissy Teigen hates her, or why anyone else was mean to her for that matter. It seems like she should elicit pity.

      • Darla says:

        I don’t think there is any context for that Aang. It’s unfathomable and sick behavior. You won’t be able to explain it because it defies logic.

      • JT says:

        I also never understood what was Chrissy’s problem with Courtney.

      • Esmom says:

        Somehow I missed the whole Tiegen harassment of Stodden and I am horrified. Truly sick stuff. Did she ever apologize?

      • Becks1 says:

        @Esmom I don’t think she did which is why I think Courtney brought it up at this point – yes Chrissy was a bully and said some horrible things to a vulnerable, victimized person – but I think had she apologized, even at this point, Courtney would accept it. Courtney mentions in the story that none of the celebrities who harassed them apologized.

      • Norman Bates' Mother says:

        I think I have a good guess that they hated Stodden because at that time, she was only 16 but she played this uber-sexual, ducklipped Playboy bunny who only spoke in either porn-quality one-liners or some new-age bs which no one could understand (like Paulo Coehlo on acid), but the rage was completely misplaced. Courtney behaved like this because mother and Doug told her to and they most likely also drugged her. The entire persona was ridiculous and at that time, I also couldn’t even read or hear anything that came from Stodden’s mouth without rolling my eyes and being annoyed, especially considering how ever-present this duo was, but again – it was grown-ups’ fault, not a teenager’s who didn’t know any better.

      • Otaku fairy says:

        Both sexes are taught that others’ disrespect and abuse are, at best, things an immodest woman/fast girl has to ‘take accountability for’ (when girls and women refuse to do this, misogynists call it ‘playing the victim’) because ‘she put herself out there’. At worst, people are taught that disrespecting and abusing them is the right and ‘moral’ thing to do. The latter was likely Chrissy’s mentality.

      • PrincessMe says:

        I never knew about the Chrissy Tiegen stuff, which is absolutely horrible. I do know that when Stodden first came on the scene, a lot of people didn’t believe that she was 16 because of how she looked (plastic surgery type look, if I remember correctly), so a lot of people were absolutely horrible in their coverage. They thought it was some kind of publicity stunt.

      • PrincessMe says:

        *sorry, they…

      • EnormousCoat says:

        In my estimation, CT thrives off not just attention, but attention paid to her for being witty. In her estimation, this was witty. I remember the vitriol directed as CS at the time and thinking it odd that america was so angry with a teenager, rather than their scumbag loser husband. But yeah, CT turned jeering at them into a sport. And all for her own vanity. Gross.

      • MissMarirose says:

        If I recall correctly, a lot of people did not believe that she was actually a teenager. Her sex toy persona predated Doug and included a self-produced music video where she was writhing around and making duck lip faces. Then she got married and it got so much worse. She wore so much makeup that she basically looked the same age as her mom, so people were in denial and thought they were actually sisters. I’m not sure if that’s why Chrissy hated her but it seemed like people thought it was an act, not a child being trafficked.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        I remember this whole CS thing better than I should given how long it was. Everyone did think she was older, but we also knew she was a teenager from her marriage license and birth cert.

        Most people were just annoyed she was somehow in the news daily for months. Chrissy took the annoyance imo as fair game to trash a child on an abusive relationship for more likes and followers.

        Her husband seems like a nice, quiet guy. Chrissy has repeated her cruel behavior on and off over the years. I wonder what her motivations are internally to be the way she is.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Courtney was an easy target and everywhere. That’s why.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        I think that the way CT was treated is truly horrific. Everyone that bullied her should make a public apology. There is zero excuse for bullying anyone!! Unless it’s Piers Morgan, then that’s perfectly acceptable.

    • Honey says:

      I wonder if this will make Chrissy “quit” Twitter again to save face.

  3. Keats says:

    As far as I know Courtney’s preferred pronouns are they/them for any future stories!

    • Piratewench says:

      I 100% intent to follow their preferred pronouns moving forward. I have a question… if someone presents 100% feminine (like Courtney does) do you think they get hurt/offended if people forget to use their pronouns and call them she/her?

      I’m an old millennial. I’ll admit I am learning still. Learning that people can present very gendered but still be non-binary. But like, a person who first meets Courtney would not think they are non-binary due to presentation. I don’t know, any thoughts on this from the great commenters here?

      Once someone tells you, of course you know and you move forward like that, with the preferred pronouns. But with Courtney I would simply never know until I read it here! I bet she gets a lot of push back like “but you look like a woman and are dressed like a woman!” If I didn’t have better education that would be my first instinctual response.

      • Kim says:

        Yes, non-binary and genderfluid folks would be hurt by being misgendered.

        It’s important for us to all understand that there is no ‘non-binary’ look. Gender identity (how we perceive our gender) is different from gender expression (how we express our gender). If a man wears nail polish that doesn’t mean that he now wants to be called ‘she.’ If a woman cuts her hair short that doesn’t mean she is now a man. In the same vein, a non-binary person has pronouns they use, and that may/may not align with how they dress or present.

        It’s also important because not everyone wants to or can medically transition. Some non-binary folks present more feminine or more masculine and in many ways, they have no control over that.

      • Piratewench says:

        Thank you Kim! For that distinction between gender identity and gender expression. Gives me something to do some reading about today.

      • Keats says:

        I will say that sincerely apologizing and getting it right moving forward is all you can do to prevent feelings from getting more hurt! I feel like good intentions and compassion go a long way : )

      • AlpineWitch says:

        If the person has requested some pronoun to be used when people refer to them, then yes it offends them to call them as they appear.

        I’m a non-binary old millennial and I can be seen as a man or woman, but for my pronoun I continue standing by her, because my sex at birth is female. I will never use ‘they/them’ because I don’t feel represented by a plural gender, I am still ‘one’ in the end. However, I always made that clear in my online profiles and I would be quite annoyed if someone was disregarding that.

      • Bettyrose says:

        You’re all making really good points. Courtney is a whole textbook of learning though on gender identity vs expression with this cartoonishly exaggerated expression of femininity. But I guess one could say the same for Caitlin Jenner so modeling oneself after manga has no correlation with assigned gender at birth or chosen pronouns. (But from a feminist perspective, I think it’s okay to feel internally uncomfortable with this gender expression while still using the appropriate pronouns and being respectful. We don’t have to be perfect just willing to learn).

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Thanks Kim!
        A non-binary friend told me a lot of people will assume non-binary is to look androgynous and seeing someone appear to favor societal gender norms means they identify as that gender. But you’re right, they can’t and shouldn’t have to change how they look to make it easier for others to identify them when it has nothing to do with physical perceptions.

      • languidsegmentsgreen says:

        @piratewench – first off, i THANK YOU for even asking this – it’s important! also? YOUR NAME!!!😍😍😍

        i’m a gen-xer. my son was born female and was the most princessy princess to ever princess (despite my being raised in the ‘70s with non gender-specific clothing/toys and trying to impart that), and still likes wearing dresses sometimes but identifies as male and is transitioning, having had top surgery (but still likes wearing dresses – and why CAN’T guys wear skirts/dresses? they’re effing comfortable, especially in summer!!) i identify as agender and dress *however* but present as female, and WISH i could get top surgery.

        my son (age 21) FREAKS if someone uses “she” or “her”, even though he he presents as pretty “female”. me? i don’t *love* being identified as any gender, but that’s the thing!!: we’ve evolved/been enculturated to identify people by sex/gender in a binary way.

        i can’t count the number of times i’ve had to bite my tongue at work when someone says, “hey, ladies!” 😖

        i’m really hopeful that after the boomer die-off, gen-z people destroy the gender binary – but until then, i know it’s hard. we make assumptions about someone’s gender based on appearance. until then, i guess it’s better to just not assume or avoid pronouns unless it’s absolutely necessary…? 😬

    • Detnow359 says:

      What I don’t understand is that Courtney referred to themself as a woman in the 1st dotpoint. Would that be correct verbiage? Or are we only concerned with the pronouns?

      • Keats says:

        So I think there it’s a bit more nuanced, they’re specifically talking about growing into a woman’s body and the extreme fallout they had from being groomed as a result of presenting with a womanly “sexy” body if that makes sense. I think the verbiage would have to be correct by virtue of them referring to their own body.

  4. Cecilia says:

    Every time i want to like Chrissy shit like this turns up. Honestly sometimes i wonder what the hell is wrong with that woman. Those tweets are disgusting

    • Mtec says:

      Same. I wanted to like her but that’s just awful.

    • Piratewench says:

      Same.
      I remember when Stodden was making headlines. Any woman with a heart, conscience and even an ounce of compassion could see she was being abused. She was a CHILD. Chrissy is a sicko for this.

      And the tweets about her “drug mouth” making her look like an idiot… OK Chrissy so you are knowingly mocking a 16 year old who you believe has a drug problem… the only one who looks bad here is Chrissy.

      I’ve followed Courtney a little while. I’m also healing from trauma and abuse that went well into my early adulthood. She’s relatable in that. She deserved MUCH better than being drugged up and handed off to some skeeze by her own mother, and at such a young age, and with such EXTREME sexualization and sensationalism of her. Chrissy participated in abusing a very innocent and helpless young person. So gross.

    • Lady D says:

      Knowing little about Chrissy, I liked her too. I liked her sense of humour, her mommy abilities, just the way she lived her life. I had no idea at all she was like this. I’ve felt protective(?) towards Courtney since I first heard about her and that horrific skeeze that married them with mommy’s help. I cannot believe Chrissy would say something like that to anyone, never mind a vulnerable flipping teenager. This was appalling behavior from Chrissy and I’m through with her.

    • Myra says:

      I have the same issues with her. She was a real bully and she had no regard for others who were in a vulnerable place. All she cared about was the mockery.

    • KB says:

      I was going to reply with the same thing! I’m back to not liking Chrissy anymore and unfollowing her everywhere. For some reason, Courtney Stodden has never bothered me and I feel like I’ve always had a soft spot for them. Hutchinson was a creep, but I never thought Courtney should be blamed for anything.

  5. Lady Luna says:

    I’m not a fan and never really cared for Chrissy, her behavior is completely unacceptable. Regardless of who she is, telling a teenager to kill themselves is horrible! Wtf.

    • Seraphina says:

      I am not a fan and never was. Never understood how she got famous and remained to be famous. One would think compassion and empathy would given to CS, because clearly something is wrong – but know, it is much much easier to throw stones and be mean. That requires no thought.

  6. D says:

    Yes Courtney is non-binary but in the original article they use both “they” and “she” could they possibly be fine with both pronouns? I can’t find solid info.

    • Brittany says:

      Courtney said in a Tweet their pronouns are “They/them/theirs.” I’m guessing the original article writer was confused and misgendered them.

      • D says:

        Makes sense, and unfortunately that happens a lot :/ thanks for clarifying!

      • Keats says:

        Thanks for this info! I just learned about their pronouns through other coverage, but good to have info straight from the source!

    • Ragna says:

      There’s also a few places where Courtney is referencing how other people talked about them and they use “she” in those moments because it’s not they who said it originally

  7. Feebee says:

    Gob smacked at Teigen. What the ever-loving f**k was that about and how was no one calling her on it? Or did they and that was one of the times she ‘quit’ Twitter?

    • Darla says:

      Well, wait a minute, let’s think of online culture circa 2012ish. I’d have to write a whole dissertation and it would include the 2008 Democratic primary. And I can’t do that here. But let’s stick to blogs. What was Lainey writing about women then? Yeah, think about it. We don’t even think about just how bad it was just how recently, do we? My point being maybe Teigen fit in a lot better than we think now.

      • nana says:

        this x100! They even mention it in the interview. They mentioned how dr drew did an ultrasound of their breasts, on tv to prove they were real. they were 16 when that happened

      • Gillysirl says:

        It’s fair to realize that slut-shaming as a “thing”. But if we’ve changed, and if they’ve (Teigen, Behar, etc) changed, they should acknowledge they were wrong and apologize.

        Like Lainey did.

      • equality says:

        Sounds like Dr. Drew should apologize also. That’s one show he should have never aired.

      • Sarah says:

        No. Courtney was still a child then and there is never an excuse for telling anyone to kill themselves.

      • Darla says:

        No Sarah I didn’t say there was. I was responding to the question: “What the ever-loving f**k was that about and how was no one calling her on it?”

        So don’t put words in MY mouth, because you can bet while you were all here calling Megan Fox names I wasn’t. I’m way ahead and don’t need lessons.

      • Lyds says:

        Agree fully @Gillysirl

        It’s less about calling someone a horrible person for 11 year old tweets, but more the fact that this person was first called out in March — didn’t own up or say a thing — and again now, and chose to remain silent. If you did something despicable and you are remorseful, you would be quick to apologize and make things right.

        For someone as active on social media as Teigan, to not right this wrong is unacceptable and she deserves to be called out on bad behavior. And we all acknowledge that hers was ESPECIALLY bad.

      • lucy2 says:

        This is a good point. The culture was different then, and people (including myself I’m sure) said a lot of unkind things about Courtney. Today? I think the \majority of people would be far quicker to realize what was happening there, the grooming and abuse, and go easier on them.
        That said, what Chrissy did then was NEVER acceptable. It’s bad enough for anonymous internet posters to say stuff, but for a celebrity to DM Courtney to say such horrible things…I can’t imagine what would make a person do that. I hope she owns up to it and tries to make amends, especially after being bullied herself.

      • observing says:

        Why did she DM this person? DMs are not posts that are online for the public to respond to if you think you’re being funny. In that sense I don’t know if what Tiegen fit in with the culture of the time. What’s the point of messaging someone in private and telling them they should die? That’s plain weird.

  8. KatianaD says:

    I’m not a Tiegen fan anyways but disappointed to hear that about Joy Behar

  9. ThatgirlThere says:

    Courtney has gone through hell and I hope that she can heal and have true joy in her life. Her ex abuser husband needs to be stung up as do those around them that let the abuse happen.

    Chrissy has always been a trash monster and the makes me wonder about her husband ans who he really is. The day she critiqued Quvenzhané Wallis when that little girl rightly corrected an interviewer for mispronouncing her name and Chrissy called her cocky I was done with her

  10. Darla says:

    Well, I didn’t know about this until yesterday. I didn’t even really know Stodden, only that the name was familiar. I just wasn’t online much then and when I was, it was politics, I never even visited a celebrity blog, I don’t think. So this came as a huge shock, and I unfollowed her. I don’t know who does this. I mean, I read her tweets and she’s depraved and obsessed, really sick actually.

    But guess what? I didn’t find out until just now that Joy Behar called a 16 yo a slut? WTF???? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE??

    • Wiglet Watcher says:

      We all mocked Stodden. The posts here were often and she was annoying like a kardashian. She was just everywhere being a hot mess.

      We could all see something was off, but I don’t think anyone truly guessed she was groomed by a pedaphile has been. Sold off by her parents. And lived a nightmare with an alcoholic husband that controlled her money, brought her to doctors that kept her high and complacent, forced her to get married plastic surgery to excess, and was abusive nightly.

      Still, no one here crossed that line and told a child to kill herself.

      • Watson says:

        I’m with you Wiglet Watcher. When Britney was young I was on message boards and people called her a slut, and the same thing happened when Courtney was young. All these women were publicly bullied much the same way Meghan is bullied by the press, and the same way a segment of this board trashes Kate’s every move no matter what she does, and will pile up on anyone who dares to question anything Meg and Harry do.

        People like to ride the wave of negativity cause it’s fun to pile up on people. I’ve been guilty of it when i was younger too. Chrissy should apologize the way Lainey did.

      • Maria says:

        I think the Kate thing and people who question Meghan/Harry thing is a tad different, imo.
        But I agree with what you are saying.

      • Otaku fairy says:

        +1, Watson. It wasn’t just Meghan Markle put through something almost unsurvivable. So many of these women and underage girls were called dehumanizing slurs, had violence wished on them, or were told they were responsible for other people’s violence based on the way they dressed or their real or perceived sexual activity. Some of the people who do those things or encourage others to do those things will also then gleefully talk about how those girls will have breakdowns like Britney, or will act as if any past, present, or future mental health struggles as a result of that trauma proves how right they were to go after such ‘sinful’ girls in the first place, much like homophobes when their victims suffer. In order to grow as a society, we have to be able to acknowledge things like that without minimizing it, even when the target isn’t a fave or someone we want to be copied by others.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Watson
        I’m not seeing the link between Courtney with Meghan and Kate.

        But sure women are easier targets.

      • AMJ says:

        I can’t believe that no-one could see she was being groomed by a pedo. A sixteen year old doesn’t marry a fifty year old because she’s just “in love” with him. It’s always wrong, especially given her hypersexualized image everyone should’ve seen things are going very, very wrong. Children don’t act out this way on their own, it’s a common knowledge. So the excuses “she was annoying” or “we thought she just was a hot mess”… Are just excuses. A hot mess of a teenager means trauma, period.

      • observing says:

        The fact that Tiegen sent DMs to her is very odd to me. We all anonymously comment for conversation for different reasons and I think we’re comfortable with airing an opinion in that regard (or, in the case of celebrities. with their own name to elicit laughs or provoke a response). But what’s the point of sending a private message to annoy someone? I guess if she posted the message to an Instagram account for everyone to see thinking she was being funny for the public, that would at least make some sense. But sending a private message to irritate someone suggests she kind of knew it was wrong to bully her.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        AMJ
        Go back to the early original posts in this sites archives. We expressed concern, but she was in a state where it was only up to the parent to be sane. She wanted a singing career, but couldn’t sing. We got half the picture and the way the articles were presented was heavily biased. It looked like a stunt to bring a has been actor back into the limelight and a young woman (we thought) with dreams a leg up. And yes we were all wrong.
        Every poster and every site that covered her endlessly working us all up was and is to blame. I’m sorry I contributed, albeit on a small scale.

  11. jbyrdku says:

    Chrissy Tiegen has always been awful.

    She has a desperate need for attention and validation, which, okay fine, most of us do. Most of us don’t harass teenagers (or anyone), though. She’s the perfect example of a self-involved little a**hole who loves to make herself feel superior by stomping on others, all the while crying about her own victimhood every other month.

    Why does anyone give her a platform?

  12. OriginalLala says:

    why am I not surprised about Chrissy Teigen? she sounds like such an a-hole, why she seems to always gets a pass for her behavior is surprising.

  13. Jane Doe says:

    Teigen has been a serious problem for a long time. She is racist and has been awful to multiple girls. She needs to be canceled permanently.

  14. Insomniac says:

    It still blows me away that when the news of 16-year-old Courtney marrying a 50-year-old creeper went public, so many people had nothing to say about the gross adult male or the parents who let this happen, but went all-in on mocking the hell out of…Courtney. I’m glad Courtney is finally calling this out, and I hope they find some peace. And Chrissy Teigen can quit social media for good.

  15. smcollins says:

    I’ve always felt so bad for Courtney. Their mother basically sold them off to the highest bidder for the promise of fame & fortune. It’s horrible what they went through but it sounds like they’re starting to come out the other side and I wish them well. As far at Chrissy…I’ve always found her awful and annoying AF so I’m not really surprised about her treatment of a “lesser” celebrity that she would deem beneath her. She’s a pro at punching down.

    • cassandra says:

      I always found the situation creepy and weird.

      Does Courtney mention if their plastic surgery was their idea or their abuser’s? I’ve always wondered if they were pushed into it. I can’t imagine changing your face/body for someone and having to live with that forever

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        The general situation and some comments made by Courtney at the time was she wanted to be what Doug wanted. And she changed her appearance for her careers (singing, acting, modeling) so it’s not a stretch she was being guided by these people in her life. Idk what teenager would go against their parents and husband when they were the only people she had gave her this advice and signed the consent forms to get the procedures.

        They did groom her.

  16. equality says:

    Blue checked names on SM consistently get away with lies and nasty comments that anybody else would be banned for. I’m still amazed that Trump got banned, but, of course, it wasn’t until after he’d lost the presidency.

  17. Abby says:

    I just… can’t figure out why Chrissy was so hateful. Courtney was a child, in an obviously unhealthy situation. Why on earth would Chrissy be such a troll to her?

    It’s not even funny. I think Chrissy’s schtick on Twitter is funny, these days. I didn’t follow her in 2012 so I have no idea how her persona online has changed, but none of those tweets are humorous, even for 9 years ago.

    • Lara says:

      Donyou remember what things were like at that time? Courtney and Doug were mostly seen as reality star attention hos, no one cared about her age.

      • Maria says:

        A lot of people cared. I remember being on Oh No They Didn’t at the time and yes, her age was discussed.

      • Maria says:

        *their age

      • Abby says:

        I was here in 2012 and I thought they were over-sexualized and fame-hungry but it was also gross what their mom and Doug were doing. I know lots and lots of comments were made by many here about their body. It’s cringey to me now, and I’m glad we are more aware of these kinds of comments (although I know they continue in other online communities).

        None of that is the same as telling a teen to go kill themselves. I don’t remember that as being normal and acceptable trolling of celebrities.

      • SurelyNot says:

        I recall at the time that no one really believed that was their age – the over processed hair, drag make up and body proportions… and then I think the age part just got lost in the overall train wreck and few people thought wait a minute…this really is a child.

        I never wished harm on them but I do feel like an asshole now.

  18. lanne says:

    Tiegen is an example of why I’m glad I don’t have Twitter. The ability to send off an unfiltered thought that could come back and bite your ass is dangerous.

    Would she tweet this now? Of course she wouldn’t. Should she have tweeted those things then? No, but her tweets were in line with how people talked about Stodden then—they were seen as a desperate fame-seeker. Meaning lots of people talked about them like that, not just Tiegan. Tiegen probably received, and still receives, kys tweets all the time. Go on Reddit and you’ll see posts where people say that on social media all the time.

    Stodden should have never been placed in that position to marry a middle aged man as a teenager. It’s horrifying how many teenagers are groomed by adult men online. Their parents should have better protected them.

    I’m curious to see how Tiegan addresses this. I’ll bet lots of people on Twitter have tweets that they would take back, but that’s not possible. I think an apology is certainly in order. Also I’d like to see a conversation about how casually people use slurs of all kinds online. Stodden calling out Tiegan could be a catalyst for starting this conversation. It’s a much bigger issue in my mind than the 2 of them

    • Sigmund says:

      I agree. While Teigen’s comments were not unusual for the time period, that doesn’t make it right, and Teigen owes them an apology.

      I also feel really bad for Stoddard. They remind a bit of Britney Spears—sexualized at a young age and then crucified for it. I hope that Stoddard can find some peace now that they’re divorced and away from their abuser. And of course I hope Spears can find the same.

  19. The Other Katherine says:

    Monstrous behavior from Tiegen. Wow. Poor Courtney. No kid deserves that.

  20. Lara says:

    Do people not remember what being online like was like 10-15 years ago? It’s not like this was universally condemned behavior back then.

    • Maria says:

      Sure. What’s keeping her (and the rest of them) from apologizing now?

    • observing says:

      Tiegen privately messaged her though. That’s weird. Was that actually normal even back then?

      If she had posted her comment publicly, I could buy the argument that she participating in the online behaviour of the time. But to actually privately message someone and tell to die is very off. If she had posted the message online publicly telling someone to kill themselves, I could see someone telling her to cut it out. That crosses a different line from other rude online behavior.

  21. Sofia says:

    I wish I could say I’m surprised but I’m really not. Chrissy has not always been super nice and sweet (and that’s putting it verrrrrrry nicely in this article’s context) but this is completely unacceptable to say to anyone. Especially towards someone who was groomed at 16 because it was not their fault – never will be.

  22. Miss Margo says:

    I’m so glad Courtney is out of that relationship. What a creeper. But damn, Chrissy is MEAN. And she hasn’t apologized yet?! I think back then many of us were brainwashed by the patriarchy. But we are evolving! Courtney should have never received hate of that magnitude.

  23. AmyB says:

    I feel very sorry for Courtney Stodden. When she came into the public’s consciousness, she was 16 years old, and was given permission by her grossly inept, and pathetic parents to marry 50 year old actor Doug Hutchinson. A media frenzy ensued, and they promoted their situation as a “love story” but Courtney was trashed all over the media. Again, this was a 16 year old girl!! I know she dressed, and acted very sexual and provocative, but I don’t give a shit, no child deserves what she got. She was betrayed by the people who were supposed to love and protect her – HER parents, and now we find out her husband was a master manipulator, groomer, gaslighter and alcoholic. It’s beyond pathetic and a twisted Freudian nightmare. Especially b/c I remember something coming out later in a reality show, that Courtney’s mother really had feelings for Doug (probably the reason she signed off on the marriage) – UGH, makes me sick!!!

    But this crap about Chrissy Teigen telling her to go kill herself??? What in the hell is wrong with YOUR life for you to act so hatefully to someone you don’t know? JFC. I really hope Courtney is getting the help and therapy she needs to heal from all the abuse and trauma she suffered from. Poor thing.

  24. whateveryousay says:

    Someone pulled receipts from Chrissy’s food blog where apparently she used to go after Courtney there as well. She’s messed up and honestly it’s gross that she was allowed to keep her Twitter account after all of this mess. She went after someone the other day who dared to criticize her just using screenshots, but Chrissy responded to it. Like what do you do all day but look for people who are talking about you and then go after them for it?

    • Maria says:

      Ok now that’s scary.
      Like, yes, I do remember how awful it was online around this time. But most of it was posts on Oh No They Didnt or JustJared or things like that. I never heard of anybody using *multiple* platforms and private messages to harass someone and wish death on them, to this extent (a minor no less).

      • whateveryousay says:

        I shook my head. I had no idea she was this bad. I mean I heard about her harassing Courtney before, but the other tweets where she tells her to kill herself and then apparently was DMing her. I notice that Chrissy isn’t say a word about this, I expect she hopes it blows over.

      • Lady D says:

        I had no idea she was this bad, either. I’m never going to find her amusing again.

  25. swirlmamad says:

    Wow….I mean I’ve heard negative things about Chrissy’s behavior, but this is just CRUEL. Who on earth can justify doing something like that to a person, no matter their issues and however public they may be? I’m surprised this isn’t more widely spoken about.

  26. LP says:

    The amount of sl*t shaming I participated in years ago, even as a so-called feminist, comes back to haunt me, and this is just one example :( Eevryone ragged on this teenager for having plastic surgery or ‘looking sl*tty’ or ‘being a famewh*re’ wihtout any real criticism for the actual adults who put them in this situation! Of course telling someone to k*ll themsleves is abslutely beyond excuse, but as a culture so many spewed so much vitriol I admire Courtney for still being here!

    • Otaku fairy says:

      +1. The conversations about Courtney offline and offline when I was in school were a scary thing at the time because it was like watching someone be abused in 2 different ways at once. But even though they weren’t one of the people I did that to, there have definitely been other times when I’ve participated in slut-shaming, even with a mom who taught us that it was misogynistic. And even while being bothered by it in other situations.

      • I pet goat 2 says:

        Otaku fairy, I always admire your patience and real wish to inform when dealing with feminist issues such as slut-shaming, misgendering, and generally educating about the fact that women can NEVER win in a patriarchy, so that lens should keep being applied even if one might not understand in the first place. I’ve read your comments for a long time even if I was more of a Lurker. Which is why I am even more surprised that you yourself had to learn this basic tenant – in a good way. You are very clearly informed, educated, and passionate, and the fact that it might not have always been this way, maybe also due to generational differences in feminism, shows that the questions being asked here from others at this very moment, and their willingness to learn, leads somewhere. I am very happy to see many commenters reflecting on how a different socialization back then influenced their behavior when it comes to dealing with the case at hand.
        So, sincerely, hats off to everybody growing.

        Btw, there is a concept called “bimboism” (and a scary concept called bimbofication, for those wanting to see the patriarchal inflection). As a society, we see people presenting as exaggeratedly traditionally feminine as worthy of humiliation. This is what happened with Courtney, on top of the fact that they were abused and a teenager not able to consent. The perceived exaggerated, almost campy presentation of the feminine leads the mainstream to believe that person cannot be taken seriously.
        (Of course, queer folks’ reception and history of drag and camp differ here).

        I find Courtney inspirational and wish them all healing and positivity moving forward.

      • Jais says:

        Thank you both for your thoughtful comments. @1 pet goat 2-your description of bimboism really reminds me of the comments about Dolly Parton earlier in her career.

      • Otaku fairy says:

        Thank you, I Pet Goats 2. I don’t think I’ve heard that term before either.

    • Amando says:

      I’m guilty of some of this as well. I don’t remember slut shaming her per se, but I do remember making fun of her intelligence and how she carried herself. She was a teen and I should have instead turned my hate toward her disgusting husband and parents. Courtney, I’m sorry!

  27. Willow says:

    All these excuses for horrible collective behavior towards a 16 year old. I don’t care what year it was, what social media was like…anyone who sees a relationship between a 50 yr old man and a 16 yr old girl who has obviously been overly sexualized, and blames and bullies the girl is wrong!
    And, ‘everybody else was bullying her, so it’s ok that I did it too’, needs to stop.
    Take responsibility for your own behavior and your own words and admit that it doesn’t matter what year it was, this was an abusive relationship and the person being abused got further traumatized and bullied by the public.
    And next you see this happening in person or on the internet, either defend the victim or be silent. When you participate in this type of bullying then you are just helping the abuser.

    • Saltycracker says:

      I agree with Willow. The collective bs is outrageous. It doesn’t matter if everyone was doing it at the time. Just don’t be an a***ole no matter what age or climate it is.
      Those who are regretting their old tweets and whatnots should take a step back and assess how truly good they are. All of us full of righteousness..stop, think,think,think and then don’t say nasty thing so you don’t have to regret it later.
      As for Teigen…always have found her horrible. Mean girl who cries loud when people give her a taste of her own medicine.
      Hope Stodden can work through their traumas.

    • PrincessMe says:

      I agree with you as well, Willow. I remember the time vividly and people behaved wretchedly. I was a teenager at the time, and even I knew that it was messed up as heck. There was no excuse for the vitriol. I hope for healing for Courtney, it must have been a nightmare to go through.

      • Fabiola says:

        I remember when this story came out and all I could think was this poor child. Courtney needs to be saved from this pedophile and her mom. I never thought to attack Courtney. For those that thought attacking a child was normal and funny you should take a look at a mirror and feel ashamed.

    • Otaku fairy says:

      Good point. Even when it’s not wishing death on someone, there’s still plenty of room for improvement in how we discuss women and teenage girls in online communities like these, and in our offline communities as well.
      It’s in the way some women’s discussions of their experiences of physical, sexual, psychological, and emotional abuse are often reacted to. It’s in the dehumanizing slurs and stereotypes used against immodest women. It’s in the way they’re discussed like them saying no to respectability politics makes them to blame for the fact that rapists, human traffickers, pedophiles, and other violent people exist in this world. It’s in the fact that girls and women, who are human beings just as much as men and boys are, are treated unequally by having to really ‘earn’ not being talked about like that, in a way that their brothers don’t. It’s in how other girls and women are told it’s only ok to criticize that when the targets are great people. Interrogating people about their virginity IS creepy- whether we participated in the interrogation while someone was actually underage, or whether they’re adults who went through that interrogation while underage and are now telling us about when they gave it up but we’re calling them liars as if we were right there with TI and their gynos, insisting their cherries MUST have been popped even sooner. Like that virginity speculation, it’s also crossing a boundary when we still spread unverified sexual abuse rumors based on gossip or how we feel about their choices with their bodies. There’s so much more.
      It’s easy to dismiss everything else because it’s not as bad as wishing death on someone. But we have to look at the ways the the rest of the dehumanizing, misogynistic language do harm and make more violent reactions seem justifiable to people.

  28. Bettyrose says:

    Did Stodden get money out of the divorce? How do they plan to live with no education or earning potential? I get that they are a victim of child sex trafficking and deserve compassion but one can’t live on that alone. This image they continue to present worries me.

    • Misbehavin says:

      Maybe that’s one of the reasons they wrote their book? Not only as catharsis, but as a source of income. I hope they’re getting paid for any interviews, too. It’s not a long term solution, of course.

    • Lizzie Bathory says:

      They’ve been releasing music & music videos. Courtney seems to have some sort of fan base, so I’m guessing they’re going to pursue music & maybe more reality shows.

    • Chaine says:

      I don’t think there was any money. Doug I think went back to live with his parents in the Midwest and declared bankruptcy. Courtney had already done the reality show circuit by then. I think Courtney had a subsequent boyfriend that was supporting them but Idk if they’re still together, in fact I don’t think so because I remember something about dating Brian Austin Green for a hot minute after that.

  29. Trillion says:

    Courtney Love should just never call anybody a “whore”.

    • SurelyNot says:

      something we should all refrain from really…

      • Bettyrose says:

        Surelynot – x1000000 but we need a simpler word for persons with a low sense of their self worth who inaccurately believe their sexuality is all they have to offer the world. I guess “kardashian” is kinda the stand in phrase for that concept right now.

      • Otaku fairy says:

        +1, Surelynot. And we don’t really need anything else to become a new euphemism for a slur that’s used to mark people from an already marginalized group as ‘less than’ either tbh. Changing the name doesn’t solve the problem. We need to stop trying to build our equality on less modest/less ‘respectable’ women’s abuse altogether.

      • bettyrose says:

        OtakuFairy -
        Good points. We don’t need another euphemism/slur but sometimes people misuse slurs for lack of better terminology. Not everyone applies critical thought their words. In nearly any scenario where one is tempted to use “whore,” some form of exploitation is happening, so having a word that indicates an unfortunate situation rather than calling out someone’s moral character could help us culturally redefine/better recognize exploitation.

      • Melissa says:

        @Betty
        A persons “low sense of self worth” isn’t mine to judge or create a label for … as for the rest of that …
        just no

      • Bettyrose says:

        Melissa,

        I’m guessing you’re not a teacher/mentor if you think it’s not your business.

  30. BnLurkN4eva says:

    Don’t know Christy only read about her here sometimes but here we are doing a similar thing to her now. Strodden mentions others who were vicious and have not apologized, but the comments focuses exclusively on the Christy person. I haven’t even read the tweets because I don’t want to get mad and pile on too. This is a problem I see all the time that so many do, pile on to someone who may or may not deserve it forgetting that they maybe troubled too. It may sound like I am calling out people, but this is more like a stream of consciousness thing. I hope Strodden receives sincere apologies from all who were vicious to them and I hope they continues to heal.

    • Maria says:

      I mean, until someone here tweets that Chrissy should die and tells her that several times, it’s not really a similar thing.
      I think Chrissy gets most of the attention because while the others were slut-shaming Stodden, Chrissy was actively wishing her harm, harassing her over multiple platforms, telling her to die, etc.

      • BnLurkN4eva says:

        Like I said I haven’t read the tweets because I don’t want to get angry. I just don’t like piling on in general. Still, I get the awfulness of what Chrissy has done – telling someone to die is beyond awful and it sounds like she did it repeatedly. I really only started posting like perhaps 2 yrs ago, though I had been reading for well over a decade before that and one of the reasons is I was uncomfortable with how cruel the online world was, so I lurked. This site is better than most, but even here in the past, sometimes made me uncomfortable. The intelligence and growth that has occurred here has been very encouraging to witness. Still, you are right, what she said separates her from the others if she not the others was telling a teen to die.

  31. Lala11_7 says:

    This is what I ALWAYS think about situations like Stodden’s that their introduction to being sexually abuse DID NOT START at 15…more like 10 or 12…

    If you TRULY think about it…

    You would 😪 and NEVA stop!

    And when Chrissy went after that Baby…I was DONE with her PERIOD! Grown ass folks going after children is UNFORGIVABLE in my eyes 🤬 I didn’t know about this situation regarding Courtney then …LAWD!

    • cassandra says:

      Ugh you’re probably right. Because, really, what 15 year old would even be interested in a dude like Doug Hutchinson? Not only that, but what 15 year old is in a position to meet and begin relationship with a 50+ year old man?

      Courtney’s mom deserves jail time for actively pimping out her kid. I developed early and men thought I was older than I was and my mom would straight up get in people’s faces in public if they were creepy with me.

      • Bettyrose says:

        Cassandra – I did not develop early and my mom still had to tell off a disgusting man now and then. It’s especially gross now when I think about how young I looked in middle school and yet was experimenting with hair styles and lip gloss and that was enough I guess to signal old enough to harass. But I learned a lot from my mom about not tolerating that crap.

      • cassandra says:

        Seriously, I can’t imagine what would have happened if my mom weren’t looking out for me. I certainly didn’t have the courage to tell people to leave me the eff alone at the time

  32. Sasha says:

    I think the amount of bile Courtney received from other women just shows the extent of internalised misogyny in women. She was also very young, so an easy target to attack. I think all women are socialised to play up their sexuality and curry favour with men in that way, but there’s this incredibly fine line of what is considered acceptable behaviour. Women who cross the line and unashamedly showcase their sexuality are viciously torn down. I am a feminist and feel extremely sorry for Courtney’s experience. I feel like she was an extremely vulnerable girl that a patriarchal world swallowed and spat out. Women who feel so viciously towards another woman should really take a step back and critically examine where their hatred comes from. Courtney and girls like her aren’t the problem. It’s a cliche at this point but hate the patriarchy, not the girls and women who play along with the system!

    • Joanna says:

      Well said! I have been in Courtney’s position before with men harassing me because I was sexy. Instead of women helping me out of the situation, they would harass me for receiving the attention

  33. Cee says:

    I remember when their marriage was announced, I was SHOCKED their parents were allowing it to go through. I can’t believe people tool their anger and judgement on them instead of their parents and groomer-husband! A lot of people needs to publicly apologize to them.

  34. Marigold says:

    I used to really like Chrissy. NO ONE SHOULD BE TOLD TO KILL THEMSELVES. No one!! A d this was said to a child. I am horrified.

  35. Midge says:

    One day soon John will leave Chrissy. She is a mean girl.

  36. Renee says:

    And yet next week there will be some cute story about Chrissy Teigen and John Legend and blah blah blah….Teigen always gets a pass. I don’t understand it. She is mean spirited and always has been. We need to call her out and stop letting her hide behind her husband for good PR.

    I feel nothing by empathy for Courtney. I hope Hutchinson rots in hell.

  37. Cel2495 says:

    CT is a shit person. I honestly can’t stand her. She is a bully and the least she can do is apologize for her past behavior.

  38. jbird4567 says:

    CS has a song that came out this week. Looks like they are getting the publicity they want at the right time. Chrissy sucks for this but CS is and always has been gross.

    • Maria says:

      Well, unless Courtney has recently told a 16 year old to kill themselves multiple times, one of them is grosser.

    • whateveryousay says:

      You are gross.

    • jbird4567 says:

      Brining this up now for the purposes of publicity for her new song is a slap in the face to other victims of bullying and abuse. Both are wrong.

      • Maria says:

        How on earth is this a slap in the face to other victims? The only way it would be a slap in the face to other victims would be if she made it up, and she didn’t.
        She can tell her own story whenever she wants.

      • Kkat says:

        You’re the one being disgusting jbird

  39. Linda says:

    Didn’t Tiegan have a drinking problem? Not that it’s an excuse for really terrible things being written to a victim who was very obviously a victim when she first hit the headlines at 16. But, I read that Tiegan had quit drinking because of incidents like this. I don’t know what Courtney Love’s excuse is. She’s one to talk!

    • Amando says:

      Alcoholic or not, she could still apologize for what she did. But maybe she isn’t because she actually meant those words.

  40. Pamspam says:

    I highly recommend reading this entire article. Courtney talks about how their parents were somewhat groomed as well, which I think is why Courtney isn’t holding the mom as accountable as I would. They also mentioned that Doug is now pursuing yet another teenager. https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-crucifixion-of-courtney-stodden

  41. Plums says:

    the only thing I’ve ever known about Courtney Stodden comes from ONTD posts from way back in the day. There was always a general sense of disgust at the age difference, but Courtney was a teenager at the time, and was gleefully, viciously slutshamed and called an attention whore by the internet mob anyway. That’s really how online gossip culture was in the early 2000s to the early 2010s. Not to excuse Chrissy Teigen, but she is hardly alone in having these kinds of receipts, before the cultural shift of recognizing gross abusive fucked upedness in the Me Too era.

    The fact that she got so personally vicious though, with the direct insults and hate, that’s awful, and she should absolutely apologize. There’s no reason for her to have acted like they personally offended her. Looks like some projection going on, tbh.

    • Otaku fairy says:

      It’s crazy that conservatives are jumping on this because they’re still mad at Chrissy Teigan for criticizing Trump. She’s an awful person who deserves the criticism she’s getting, but conservatives have been actively encouraging people to talk like that for YEARS while screaming free speech. It’s all been part of the larger fuck your feelings, sjw snowflakes agenda they’ve been pushing. They don’t care about slut-shaming and victim-blaming, or cruelty and not being an asshole in general. They care about calling out a thirsty Trump-hater for her social media antics, so this is convenient for them. So aren’t better than her, or at least not by much.

  42. nicegirl says:

    I’m so glad Courtney is no longer in a relationship with their abuser. I’m not ever going to see CT as a nice mom gal again after these receipts. I’m very happy for Courtney’s freedom and wish them all the happiness.

  43. Zut alors says:

    I used to wonder how Anderson Cooper could be besties with Andy Cohen and now I get it.

  44. detritus says:

    I was always deeply uncomfortable with how Courtney was treated as the problem, and her pedo ex was basically okay because he was as good as he ought to be and everything was ‘legal’.

    We have such high expectations of young women, the ones without the power in the situation, and such low ones of wealthy old men. It’s so incredibly sad because it should be reversed.

    This plays out in how we judge women and nbies who come forward with stories of inappropriateness or abuse.

    Unless they are absolutely above reproach and follow the traditional patriarchy approved channels they are labelled as schemers or just as culpable in their own victimization.

    I am so happy our conversations are moving beyond what Courtney went through, and examining how wrong it was.

    • I pet goat 2 says:

      Yes.

      Detritus, i remember you (along with me and some others) commenting favorably towards the person in their teens on the Matthew perry/raya story. Just letting you know I appreciate it.

      • Maria says:

        The contrast between the comments here and the comments in that one, by some of the same commenters, is interesting to me.

      • detritus says:

        Thank you, that’s too kind tbh

        I really appreciate your comments as well. I hope if a few of us just keep offering a counterpoint things will change. Teen girls and femmes get put through so much and then blamed for it, it’s lovely to see other people standing up for them.

  45. NotSoSocialButterfly says:

    All I can say is thank god people are becoming more tolerant and understanding and not so goddamn mean ten years on. It actually gives me a sliver of hope for society in the future.

    • BnLurkN4eva says:

      Yes, this. I love that more people are recognizing and calling out these behaviors because just a few short years ago it would mostly go unchallenged. I think that’s another reason the anti-woke are a thing, they hate seeing consequences.

    • megs283 says:

      I agree. Tweets like Chrissy’s were not uncommon at the time. Here’s hoping that she has learned her lesson and that she will APOLOGIZE to Courtney.

  46. Liz version 700 says:

    I think they look so much better in this pic. Without the manipulative control and drugs they have a normal healthy frame now instead of being marched around like a malnourished sex doll. A lot of us were worried about them. The sadness was obvious. Doug needs to be in jail

  47. Susan says:

    One question…
    Why was Chrissy Teigen *seemingly obsessed* with Courtney? Like, I get it, there are people I don’t care for (cough cough any Kardashians or Bachelor franchise people). But I *passively* dislike them in that I don’t buy their merch, I don’t watch their shows, I don’t support them. But do I give them active mental energy of mine, positive or negative? Heck no. Do they occupy space in my mind other than a passing millisecond—or a scroll down when they re mentioned? HECK NO. Why does Chrissy spend so much mental energy on this person???

    • Maria says:

      I looked up more of this story and some of Chrissy’s other tweets were unreal.
      Like about Lindsay Lohan slashing her wrists when she sees Emma Stone and other violent things.
      They’re honestly sort of terrifying.

  48. Susan says:

    I’ll even add…I really dislike Justin Timberlake. I think he’s done some HORRIBLE things to Janet, Britney, many others. But I am not going to take time out of my day to send him harassing messages. I’m just going to NOT buy his music, NOT watch his movies and passively dislike him. But to put a lot of effort into tweeting at him and or sending him hateful messages and or death requests like C T did…implies I am the one with issues, not HIM.

  49. Kristen says:

    This makes me wonder if Chrissy was drunk tweeting/messaging. It’s hard for me to fathom that she would say those kinds of things stone cold sober.

    Either way, at this point, she is going to be harassed until she apologizes to this girl publicly. And she does deserve an apology. Courtney’s been through a lot of trauma, I have so much empathy for her.

  50. Maria says:

    The fact that she is active in her IG and is still hiding out waiting for this to blow over with no apology at all shows what kind of person she is.
    I feel sad for her kids.

  51. OliviaJoy1995 says:

    It’s so shameful that in all the years she was with Doug she got more hate than her gross abuser. Doug NEVER got the same amount of negative attention that she did and still doesn’t.

  52. Kelly says:

    When I first heard about this I thought it was a made up issue, but yikes. Poor thing, and what in the hell was CT sending messages like to anyone.

  53. Lunasf17 says:

    Chrissy is trash. I have zero sympathy for her the more that comes out. Didn’t Courtney have a miscarriage as well in the past few years? I can’t imagine ever telling anyone to go kill themselves, especially in writing in a public platform! The excessive Botox and fillers must be destroying whatever brain cells Chrissy had left to do this to a child. I side eye John Legend for putting up with a hateful bully as well. What is wrong with people??

    • Renee says:

      Yeah I side eye John Legend too. Doesn’t Chrissy’s mean girl antics turn him off?

  54. Harla says:

    After reading Courtney’s Daily beast interview I wanted to cry and thought that there but for the grace of god, that could have been me.

  55. Maria says:

    And there’s her apology – a day and a half and three IG stories later. Whatever.

  56. Mina_Esq says:

    Wow, this is unbelievable. I believe some jurisdictions have criminalized or are looking to criminalize this type of bullying. Crissy is trash. Wow.

  57. Renee says:

    Chrissy just issued an apology but it feels half hearted at best.

    • shanaynay says:

      Yeah, I call it a BS apology. I agree with Courtney that CT is just trying to save face and save her brands, because the truth is she was/is a major bully. CT should definitely be kicked off social media for all the horrible disgusting things she has said and written.

  58. GrnieWnie says:

    Chrissy is a mean girl. Courtney was a child. I distinctly remember everyone feeling it was okay to pile onto her because of how she talked/looked. But I think it is SO important to let girls be girls. Teenaged girls ARE girls. They’re not sluts or whores or any of the other slurs they’re called. They’re young people with a limited set of experiences who aren’t yet prepared to tangle with adults.

  59. L says:

    Chrissy is disgusting. And these excuses, oh it was normal at the time, oh everyone was doing it, oh she had a drinking problem.. no. Just.. no.

  60. Cachinak says:

    Teigan called Quvenzhane Wallis then an 9 year old child a “cunt”. I knew then she was an a-hole and a bully.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      Trying to lift my jaw up off the floor. CT has some deeply rooted problems.

  61. claire says:

    Stodden is NB, use they/them, stop tormenting Stodden pls

  62. Justwastingtime says:

    The idea of one of my kids at 16 being handed over to a 50 yo…..hell hath no fury. May she find a relationship in which she is simply loved and equal

  63. meme says:

    I’ve never seen what’s so great about Teigen, but Stodden doesn’t seem 100 % honest and believeable either.

  64. joanne says:

    I went back to the archives and looked at Celebitchy’s posts on Courtney Stodden. They really were on the right side of things. The posts all talk about this child being exploited and how creepy the whole situation was. Well done, Celebitchy.

  65. Gab says:

    This was such obvious abuse from the start and I remember so much slut shaming of Courtney. Do not remember anyone calling Doug out as a disgusting pedophile. They had a reality show. Poor courtney!