CDC issues guidelines that fully vaccinated people do not need to wear masks inside

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Yesterday the CDC announced that fully vaccinated people no longer needed to wear masks indoors. They stated a little over two weeks ago that fully vaccinated people did not need to wear masks outdoors, but this recent decision was still a shock. President Biden did a nice announcement about it, outdoors and unmasked in The Rose Garden. Biden’s speech went a long way to making me feel better about this. He mentioned that an historic amount of people have been vaccinated in the US already, making it relatively safe for vaccinated people to go without a mask inside. Biden also said that if we’re vaccinated and want to continue wearing masks that’s our business and we should treat masked people with kindness. He’s such a good President! I wanted to talk about this CNN article that described how the CDC made this decision and how surprising it was to the White House:

White House officials were surprised when the CDC informed them Wednesday around 9 p.m. ET that the agency was changing its guidance for fully vaccinated people, multiple sources told CNN.

Officials had not expected the CDC to release new masking guidance for at least several more days, and also did not anticipate how far-reaching the guidance would be, given the CDC’s cautious track record.
But that is exactly how the White House wants these situations to be handled, after Biden came into office vowing to restore the CDC’s independence.

“We’re so sensitive about not talking about the content of what they’re doing that it’s not always easy to predict,” a senior official said.

Walensky made the ultimate decision to update the recommendations after meeting with other CDC officials Wednesday. She then briefed Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra that afternoon and informed the White House about the change Wednesday evening, the sources said.
The late-night information set off a scramble inside the White House to roll out the guidance on Thursday, with an announcement during the day’s coronavirus briefing and plans made for the President to address the country from the Rose Garden afterward.
Walensky met with White House officials Thursday morning to discuss the guidance and prepare for the questions she would likely face about it during the afternoon coronavirus briefing — a process that one official described as “pressure-testing” the new guidance. After the session, Walensky felt prepared to move forward.

While Biden trumpeted the new guidance Thursday, he still stressed the need to continue vaccinating at an aggressive clip in order to drive transmission numbers lower.

“We aren’t done yet, we’re still losing too many Americans because we still have too many unvaccinated people. We have to get to 70% of adults started on vaccinations by July the Fourth. We have to take this pandemic — tackle it. Not just here but overseas as well, to truly be safe in the long run,” he said. “There’s still more work ahead. But I have said many times, as tough as this pandemic has been, we will get through it.”

About 45% of US adults are fully vaccinated against Covid-19, according to data published Wednesday by the CDC. If vaccinations continue at the current pace, 70% of adults will have received at least one dose of Covid-19 vaccine by the second week of June.
In the meantime, the President urged Americans to treat those who continue to wear a mask with “kindness and respect.”

[From CNN]

So did Biden just stick a bow on a decision by the CDC that was the result of internal politics? I honestly don’t know. CDC Director Dr. Walensky said at the end of March that she was scared and had a sense of doom about the pandemic. Two days ago, on CNBC, she defended the CDC’s then-position on mask-wearing. However on MSNBC last night, she said that the data supports that vaccinated people don’t need to wear masks inside, that the vaccines are effective against the new variants, and that we should get comfortable going maskless.

I remember when the CDC told us, early in the pandemic, that we didn’t need masks and should just wear gloves. (Dr. Walensky became director in December. She was appointed by Biden.) I trust Dr. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Health. He told us, a month ago, that eating indoors still wasn’t safe. He’s also touted the benefits of mask-wearing beyond protecting us from this single virus. Many of us prefer to wear masks. It’s not likely we will reach herd immunity in the US because there are too many anti-vaxxers, but it sounds like the science is there to say we’re protected if we’re vaccinated. I was hoping that mask-wearing would be encouraged by the CDC. I live in a rural area in the south. This last year I’ve had some uncomfortable run-ins with MAGAs who think their “freedom” is more important than protecting people from death. It’s going to be a difficult adjustment to seeing people maskless indoors. I’m not ready to resume activities like going to the gym, especially if people aren’t going to be wearing masks. There’s no way to know if they’re vaccinated or not. Where I live, the people who wear masks are more likely to have their shots. How can we tell now? If we’ve learned anything these past few years, it’s that people can’t be trusted.

Kaiser agrees with me. She said “I’m really not ready to go back to go maskless everywhere, even though I’m fully vaccinated. I still want to wear masks in crowds, in grocery stores and shops. I hope that VA’s Governor Northam keeps some kind of mask mandate in place for another few months.

Here’s Biden’s remarks on this ruling by the CDC:

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  1. Savu says:

    I just don’t trust people! The honor system doesn’t feel good enough in this situation. Wearing a mask is such a minor inconvenience. Might as well keep going.

    • Traci says:

      agree

    • Emm says:

      Totally agree. The dangerous super spreader people have already been walking around maskless this entire time so this changes nothing for them. I’ve seen way too much this last year from selfish a holes in my maga county to ever trust people to actually do the right thing. Plus my county’s vaccination has fallen off a cliff the last month. The people who want it have gotten it already. 54% of the eligible population here still have not gotten a single dose and probably won’t and that doesn’t count children.

    • lucy2 says:

      Fully agree. WAAAAAY too many people have shown themselves to be irresponsible, selfish, and just plain stupid during this whole thing, so I’ll continue to wear mine as well.

      I have an outdoor event next month and will have (hopefully) several hundred people in our booth space, and plan on wearing one all day, even if it’s hot.

      Also, I had to stop somewhere this morning and saw with great relief everyone was still wearing their mask, no one trying to be a jerk about it. My state has had a mask mandate for a long time, I’m hoping people are used to it. I’m hoping it stays a thing in future cold/flu seasons.

    • Brittany says:

      I totally agree. This feels like it’s just pandering to MAGAs, not actually science-based. There is still a (small) risk of contacting COVID and I guess after the death and horror we have seen I’m very risk-averse (not just for myself, for public health). I will 100% continue masking up and taking the additional precautions (I’m fully vaccinated as well) and I will not feel safe around people who don’t. I honestly don’t feel the mask impedes me at all and it’s a life saving device so I’m happy to wear it.

    • Becks1 says:

      This is my problem with it. Let’s say this is true and we accept the science here – that fully vaccinated people have such a low risk that they can go maskless in most settings. If I’m not fully vaccinated at this point, i’m probably just going to say that I am so I don’t have to wear my mask. So then I feel like we’re not going to be in a good place.

      I will say that when my governor lifted the outdoor mask mandate a week or two ago, he said something like “but if you’re not vaccinated, keep in mind that you can still get sick and die.” It definitely had a vibe of “so good luck! if you wont get vaccinated, thats on you!” But because we know there is still a possibility of getting sick even when you’re vaccinated – those who aren’t vaccinated and are just going maskless are still putting us all at risk.

    • Agirlandherdog says:

      President Biden posted about this on FB yesterday, too. I found myself thinking about it as I got ready for work this morning. As a small business owner, I’ve struggled to get people to wear masks (and wear masks properly) in my office. Some people are fine with it. Some act is if I’m being sooooo unreasonable requiring masks, when every email I send states masks are required, and there are signs posted at the entrance and in the lobby. So they have plenty of notice. I know now that it’s going to be impossible now to get those people to wear a mask. I’m vaccinated. I’d be fine if other vaccinated people wanted to go maskless. But I can’t request their vaccination record before allowing them entrance. That’s just not feasible for any business owner.

    • TaraBest says:

      Yep. I’m not ready to take someone’s word that they’ve been vaxed, especially knowing how anit-vaxers and anti-maskers don’t care about telling the truth. I’ve been fully vaxed for almost a month now but will continue wearing my mask in doors and around people I don’t know.

  2. heygingersnaps says:

    Yikes! My sister who is a nurse (pedia icu nurse turned covid-19 nurse since the pandemic started) has been vaccinated (astrazeneca) early this year developed a fever on Wednesday and got a covid-19 positive result and yesterday. She still has a fever and is on iv fluids.
    I really think that even when people are vaccinated, they should still take precautions. I’ve only got the first dose of the az vaccine and I still maintain social distancing, proper good hygiene and wearing a mask.

    • Traveler says:

      My best wishes for a full and rapid recovery to your sister (I have the greatest respect for her work).
      I am in agreement about maintaining precaution even though I’m fully vaccinated. I will continue to wear a mask for travel and indoors in crowded conditions or close proximity to others I don’t know.

  3. Marty says:

    This seems just really dumb, tbh. I’m fully vaxxed and will definitely still be wearing my mask!

  4. MangoAngelesque says:

    Maybe not for COVID, but I haven’t had my typical colds and bronchitis and such this whole time, so I think I’ll keep wearing mine indoors, even after my second jab.

    • Becks1 says:

      Next fall/winter/early spring I’m wearing my masks, regardless of the regulations! No sickness here this year!

    • Christin says:

      Same here. Plus, I’m going to be as socially distanced as possible forever. I never liked standing (or having people stand) too close.

  5. Catwoman says:

    My very first thought when I heard this news is now all the antivaxxers/anti mask a—holes will be the first ones prancing around in public with no mask. My second thought was that I shouldn’t worry too much since I am fully vaccinated and plan to continually mask wearing as before. If you can’t reach herd immunity maybe the next best thing is to cull the herd since they’ll all go around infecting each other.

    • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

      While I am ALL for Darwin taking out the Stupid, I worry about them being “hosts” for the virus, allowing it to mutate into variants that our vaccines can’t protect us from.

      Otherwise, Darwin can push ALL of those selfish, moronic MAGAt/Anti-vaxxers straight down the slide to Hell for all I care.

      • Anna says:

        This is my fear exactly. Because as of right now, *only 36% of the U.S. adult population has been vaccinated*!!! 36% which means 64% have not been. This is going to be a disaster for the mutations and for the majority of the U.S. population, let alone the rest of the world. I honestly can’t stand this country’s b.s. Everyone should continue to mask indoors and outdoors. I’m sorry but people are sick, they are carriers and they are dirty in this country. See recent CB articles about people not washing! We all knew and pandemic has shown how un-hygenic people are here generally and the hand sanitizer and masks, etc. has brought things to at least a level of basic cleanliness that should always be here. Sigh. I’m so frustrated. Still haven’t ventured out of my home, still getting groceries delivered, still going to keep masking when I’m anywhere in my building (no one has been masking anyway) and even outdoors. People can do what they want. I’m not dying from this.

      • Becks1 says:

        I’m also more worried about my kids now than I was before. They mask up and are good about it but if they’re surrounded by people going maskless, who arent vaccinated and may be infected, I feel like that increases their chances of getting sick.

    • HoofRat says:

      If only those antivaxxers didn’t have to be treated by already-exhausted hospital staff. The worst part of Covidiots’ selfishness is that too often others suffer the consequences of their stupidity. Very few of us in Canada are fully vaccinated, but I’m still going to keep masking for quite a while once I am, if only so people know I’m not one of those a**holes.

  6. MsIam says:

    I’m still wearing my mask inside. I’ll probably ease up outside now. I heard the the US vaccination rate has dropped 42% recently so they are hoping this will encourage more people to get the shot. I hope so but I think it will have the opposite effect of making people think everything is back to normal.

  7. EMc says:

    I think a lot of people will continue to wear them. In SC they recently allowed kids in schools to remove their masks while inside, they only need it for the school bus. My 2nd grader told me several kids still had wore theirs. Both of my kids ended up with Covid (from our nanny), and my husband and I did not get it, and we were tested 3 times. I had a complete Pfizer vaccination, and he had only had his 1st Moderna. I’m confident in the vaccines preventing illness, at least for the next several months until we know if an additional shot is necessary. But it will be nice to ditch the mask here and there, I won’t lie.

  8. Chaine says:

    I hate this. I’m the person in charge at my work and I have no way to know whether members of the public who come in are vaccinated or not! We need to have some kind of vaccination check system so that we can enforce people who are not vaccinated continuing to wear masks. In the absence of that, I have to just require continuing masks of everyone.

    • Gab says:

      I’m ok with wearing a bracelet or something to show I’m vaccinated. I’m sure some people would not want to do that and there would be controversy about that too. I do feel like I would be fine going maskless but the governor would have to lift that mandate. At this point I feel like I’m wearing a mask to just show I’m following the rules but I don’t think I could catch COVID being that I had Pfizer a while ago.
      If you’re in charge at work wouldn’t you still need to defer to the laws of your state?

      • Chaine says:

        Private business, we can set our own rules about wearing a mask if there isn’t a mandate.

      • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

        Thing is, a bracelet, a card, pretty much anything can be forged easily, even a gov. database. However, that said, I’d STILL opt for a national database that has your Covid shots recorded, and that you can show on your phone, as entry to stores, theaters, bars/restaurants, crowded events, flights, etc.

        If those morons want to opt out, let’s opt them ALL the way out!

  9. MaryContrary says:

    Until my 12yo is completely vaxxed (and he got his first shot yesterday), I am going to continue to be as careful as I can be-and that includes wearing a mask in stores.

  10. Becks1 says:

    Apparently as soon as the CDC issued the new guidance, people in my state were shopping maskless, even our governor went to an event without his mask, even though technically we still have a mask mandate. I don’t know. I want to trust the CDC and as I said yesterday, my state is moving along really nicely with vaccines (65% vaccinated), so I feel a little more comfortable, but even going maskless outside feels weird to me right now. I think I’ll definitely keep masking up indoors for a while, unless I’m somewhere where I’m completely alone (like a smaller retail store if I’m the only customer or something.) I’m seeing my mom today who spent most of her career doing vaccine research and about years at the NIAID under Fauci, so I’ll report back on her take, lol.

    • Emm says:

      Yes please do! I’m very curious to hear what she has to say.

    • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

      Thanks, Becks! Looking forward to what your mom has to say, too!

      I so wish this site had a way to let us know when someone “answers” a post (like Disqus does). I sometimes miss responses if I forget to keep coming in to check, or can’t find where the comment is!

    • Gab says:

      Which state? In NJ the rules are still very strict and they may remain in place for a while.

      • Becks1 says:

        I’m in Maryland, so its surprising bc the people who were immediately like “so no masks, right??” that I’ve been seeing are for the most part liberal and have followed all protocols for the past 14 months.

    • Chana says:

      There was a great ProPublica article last year about how the CDC has lost any semblance of impartiality under the Trump admin. All of the early guidance about how children couldn’t get COVID or transmit it was highly politicized to keep schools open. Tbh I don’t expect the CDC’s problems to go away overnight just because there’s a new admin. Bizarre that they think this announcement will provide an “incentive” to be vaccinated, instead of just an excuse to lie.

      Also: wasn’t there a concern that vaccinated people could still carry the virus asymptomatically, hence why they needed to wear masks? The CDC cited a study looking at health care workers in Israel, but is that the best example considering Israel is basically at herd immunity? This feels super rushed and poorly timed.

      • Brittany says:

        Yes I feel the same. And there was just a New York Times article surveying 500+ epidemiologists, 80% of whom said we needed masks for at least another year!

  11. Meghan says:

    I’m fully vaxxed and will still wear my mask, it doesn’t bother me. I went to the gas station yesterday and they’d already taken down the “masks required” sign but the cashier was wearing her mask, as well as another customer. Only 2 people weren’t wearing masks.

    My concern is people cramming up behind me in line or moving my stuff over to make space on the counter. I’ve loved social distancing best of all, can’t stand people in my space.

  12. Lila says:

    Yikes. I’m keeping my mask on. There are too many people refusing to get a shot or wear a mask for me to feel comfortable. I’m grateful for both my shots AND having a safe mask.

  13. SusanRagain says:

    For me? Mask yes. Had both Pfizer shots. Will continue to wear a mask in public. Drive thru lane is working fine for me. Grocery, pharmacy, online shopping are all delivered and I will continue that.

    WFH is my fav. Online rules! A meeting that used to take an hour is now 25 minutes. Great!
    The IT dept. has convinced the Owner that meetings need to be To.The.Point in case we lose the Net. He is actually the king of jibber-jabber and yaps on forever about his hobbies, while we sit there listening to his thoughts about the NFL or pro fishing. lol

    I am following my own choices.
    I have given up on hoping other people will get better at following guidelines.

    • Gab says:

      I guess I’m not seeing what other people are seeing. Everyone by me is SO strict with following the rules and I don’t know anyone who didn’t get their vaccine a while ago, except children who are not yet approved. I’m always surprised when I hear the national number is still under 70% vaccinated. Maybe that’s why I feel like it would be safe to go with no mask. I understand my experience is anecdotal.

      • Emm says:

        I posted the other day about the difference between a very large city I traveled to last weekend only an hour away from me and my red county. The many many people in the city where all masked up indoors and had them on properly, about 90% were masked up outdoors. This is a place where I’m sure the vaccination rate is also quite high. My red county on the other hand has had maskless people roaming around indoors from the beginning. Even now, people don’t mask and many wear them under their noses or chins. My county’s vaccination rate is also terrible. The minute our governor lifted the mask mandate about a month ago and made it an advisory so many businesses took their mask signs down and people were walking into business that still had mask signs up maskless because they dgaf. When the vaccines where first available to long term residential employees and front line health care workers my family practice doctor told me so many of them were turning it down and he was just so perplexed. So I guess what I’m saying is you don’t have to go too far to see these types of people and the difference in attitude about following rules and keeping people safe.

      • Gab says:

        It’s wild that that’s what happens by you. I know more people who were literally knocking over the elderly to jump the line when the vaccine came out, even to the point of padding themselves to qualify as overweight. I actually haven’t met anyone who said no to getting the vaccine. It surprises me tbh.

      • Sunnyjyl says:

        A health worker was administering the Pfizer vaccine on my front porch. He was down to the last two doses and no one left in line. So, I walked across the street to my neighbor’s, with two giant tRump banners on his gate, to see if anyone there could use those doses. My neighbor backed away from me like I was offering him a poo pie. My little community is 50/50 people who believe covid is a hoax/overblown so the gov’t. can control people and everyone else.

  14. (The OG) Jan90067 says:

    I had my Moderna shots in Jan./Feb. While I feel ok going maskless outdoors, I still will NOT be maskless in crowds outdoors. Nor will I go maskless indoors (stores, etc.).

    So this has me wondering what outdoor dining will be like now (my only “treat” is going out to lunch outside). If they are going to cram tables now with this mandate, and people take masks off to eat/socialize… this may become a “closed” option for me. It makes me feel uncomfortable thinking of being that close to strangers that may or may not be vaccinated.

    I will be keeping my mask around, most likely, until Spring next year. I live in So. Cal, in a huge tourist area, and since we’re not requiring proof of vaccine to come here, you just know there will be variants brought over.

    Also, I’m not trusting this Fall’s cold and flu season with so many MAGAts.

    • Chana says:

      I got COVID sitting next to a friend on an outdoor bench. While I think walking maskless is fine, I think we should be cautious sitting in close proximity to unvaccinated people for extended periods outdoors.

      Also agreed: wearing masks even after being vaccinated. I feel so bad for front line workers, it’s the very least I can do to be considerate.

      • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

        Agreed, Chana. This is the problem: we don’t KNOW who is or isn’t vaxxed. And if the person sitting next to you is sick or asymptomatic, chances are you could pick it up (depending on how long you’ve been sitting there – and I’d think if you’re downwind of them).

        I hope that you’re doing alright and aren’t suffering from any long-hauler problems! Hugs!

  15. Snuffles says:

    Still wearing my mask! I took my mask off inside for the first time this weekend while visiting my parents for Mother’s Day with my fully vaccinated parents. Then put my mask right back on the moment I stepped out of the house. I’ve had tons of maintenance workers in my house the past week. I kept my mask on and made them wear theirs too.

  16. Izzy says:

    People are gross and liars so I will be masking up for a while yet.

  17. MerlinsMom1018 says:

    Still going to be wearing a mask when I have to be in public and I am fully vaccinated. I don’t trust people. I am also gearing up for getting harassed for doing so. So be it.

  18. Reindeer says:

    This makes me sick to my stomach. My husband and I are both fully vaccinated, but our kids are not, due to their age (i will be getting them vaccinated as soon as their age group is allowed). I am terrified to bring it home to them, especially considering my middle child is immunocompromised.

    This is a terrible idea.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      I’m so sorry; I can only imagine what it is like to have so few options to keep them safe. Mine are all in uni, and I still worry.

  19. Jayna says:

    My building is only 20 to 25 percent capacity. 90 percent of my office is remote. I come in to do Zoom at the office to get out of the house. But today I was happy to see anyone walking through the building or using the elevator to get to their floors are still wearing masks. Yay.

  20. NotSoSocialButterfly says:

    I think it is political; I think the administration is trying to turn down the national temperature around vaccines by way of letting the pressure off and not creating such a visible polarity (maskers vs. non-maskers) to hope that more people will decide vaccination is a good idea. I get it, but it still makes me uncomfortable. I had my second Pfizer dose a month ago; I’m not giving up my mask at this point, and I’m damn well not dining in a restaurant nor sitting in a cinema.

  21. Kristen says:

    This is a terrible idea. The people least likely to get vaccinated are the ones most likely to take advantage of this announcement. The CDC mask recommendation provided a lot of coverage for businesses with mask mandates. Unless this is coming ahead of some kind of federal announcement about vaccine passports, I really dislike this.

  22. AMarie says:

    I am fully vaccinated. and was infected with COVID. Not only that, but i have symptoms and they are terrible. I always wear a mask, but as we know, not everyone else does. I am not hopeful that people who are NOT vaccinated with continue to wear masks. I wish they had kept their mouths shut

    • Anna says:

      This is my fear exactly. Because as of right now, *only 36% of the U.S. adult population has been vaccinated*!!! 36% which means 64% have not been. This is going to be a disaster for the mutations and for the majority of the U.S. population, let alone the rest of the world. I honestly can’t stand this country’s b.s. Everyone should continue to mask indoors and outdoors. I’m sorry but people are sick, they are carriers and they are dirty in this country. See recent CB articles about people not washing! We all knew and pandemic has shown how un-hygenic people are here generally and the hand sanitizer and masks, etc. has brought things to at least a level of basic cleanliness that should always be here. Sigh. I’m so frustrated. Still haven’t ventured out of my home, still getting groceries delivered, still going to keep masking when I’m anywhere in my building (no one has been masking anyway) and even outdoors. People can do what they want. I’m not dying from this.

  23. Scal says:

    I’m in Texas. I don’t trust any of these tuurkeys to be honest about if they’ve been vaccinated so I’m going to wear my mask inside. This is seen as a bone to encourage people to vaccinate-news flash the vaccine hesitant aren’t going to wear a mask anyway and now you’ve given them a excuse not to. Whose going to check? The HEB checker?

    Also kids under 12 can’t get the vaccine yet so this means they’ll still need to mask up

    • MerlinsMom1018 says:

      Same Scal. I’m in Texas too. My mask is going to be my second skin for the foreseeable future.

    • Millenial says:

      Unfortunately, kids under 2 are not recommended to wear masks at all (it limits their oxygen) and many 2-3 year olds will not wear them just because kids that age… well, there’s a reason they call them threenagers, lol. Then there are kids with other special needs as well. So, not all kids can wear masks and it seems that CDC guidelines have completely forgotten about these children.

    • Kate says:

      Yeah I still don’t know how safe or reckless it is even for our extended family who are vaccinated to be around our young kids without masks. Has the CDC said anything about this? Thankfully my kids aren’t immunocompromised but I’m still skiddish when visiting with family about taking masks off b/c of the kids.

      I can’t tell if they are saying that vaccinated people are not carriers of the virus and thereore they can be unmasked with kids, or if there is a risk but it’s very small, or they just don’t know yet. All the unknowns just make me want to stay masked around everyone b/c if I can still be a carrier as a vaccinated adult then I should keep trying to protect myself from exposure to potentially sick people so I don’t pass it to my kids. But I would love to be wrong here, b/c I get irritable and headachey wearing a mask.

    • sassafras says:

      Another Texan here. I’m trying to look at this news in the best possible light – the vaccine is effective against variants! Vaccinated people can’t transmit! YAYYYYY! My fully vaxxed husband works in a small office of less than 20 people and can social distance and now we both feel comfortable going without a mask there.

      But I’ve decided my rule now is, I’m going to wear masks in any situation where the company is requiring their own employees to. It’s just nice to let those employees know that they’re not serving an inconsiderate nutcase. And of course, I’m going to continue to spend my $$$ at the businesses who have required them consistently this whole time. I SEE the businesses in Texas who DGAF. They won’t be getting my change.

      But also…. people. We can stop wearing them outdoors. I know it feels weird or like a signal of some kind, but the science does NOT support this virus (or any, really), being able to jump through wind and summer humidity and etc. Wear one hanging from your neck or ear if you must, or if it’s convenient though.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      I’m thinking that soon we will incrementally see the decrease in age of vaccine eligible. I think/ I hope that at least 0-2 years will have enough immune activity from their scheduled immunizations (think MMR; the American Society for Microbiology issued a press release in November of 2020 saying retaking MMR was sensible to provide additional covid protection for adults), and that older toddlers through 12 will be eligible. 🤞🏻

  24. lowercaselois says:

    Once the floodgates open,you can’t close them again, especially if variants surge again. I am going to still wear a mask in stores, etc and I am not ready to sit in a theater or sit in a restaurant. Watch there will be surges after Memorial Day and July 4th. CDC will go back to mask wearing and no one is going to listen because they lost their credibility.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      I think it is expected that there will be surges in pockets of the country regardless of CDC masking guidelines, because politically paranoid idiots refuse to mask AND be vaccinated. Today I saw three mid-late 20 somethings in a store… maskless (ok, one wearing a confederate flag hoodie, apparently those offer some kind of magic shield)- we exited the store around the same time, and they approached their vehicle (after yanking their dog around by his collar, great way to raise a biter that they will soon kick and kick to the shelter)- the driver was so juvenile and uneducated/unwilling to educate himself that he had his surgical mask over his front license plate. Instead of his face. In a chain that posted signage requiring masks to enter.
      You just can’t make this shit up, because… deplorables.

  25. HK9 says:

    I will be wearing a mask in public until this shit is over.

  26. Sunday says:

    This is insane. They don’t actually think that this will incentivize MAGAts to get vaccinated, do they? Good luck getting republicans here in Florida to wear a mask now. There are now 8 people on the Yankees who have all tested positive for Covid, despite being vaccinated – most are asymptomatic but one is sick, albeit much less sick than he would’ve been w/o the vaccine. Bill Maher (ew) is also vaccinated and just tested positive. You can obviously still get covid even if you’re vaccinated. Sure, most cases are mild, but most is not all – rare is not never. We still don’t know all the ways covid affects the body; some people have long-term covid, some people have blood pressure issues, heart side effects, etc. Zero children under 12 are vaccinated at this point and we know that, while rare, children CAN get sick, or worse. Immunocompromised people continue to be at risk. This is another incredibly poorly communicated statement from the CDC that is obviously political and it will actively make us all less safe.

  27. Mel says:

    I’m still wearing my mask. The vaccine is a preventative, it’ll prevent you from DYING or getting a serious case of Covid but you can STILL catch it, have a mild case of it and most importantly INFECT OTHER PEOPLE. I’m not going to mingle people under the delusion that they have been vaccinated. I’ll keep my mask on.

    • Midge says:

      I had a mild case last March that lead to 8 months of lung inflammation and difficulty breathing.

      • Anna says:

        So sorry to hear this, @Midge Sending strength and light your way for full recovery. This is my fear, amongst many others. People in this country simply can’t be trusted and this is the result as @Sunday and @Mel have mentioned. We can still get it, even vaccinated, and these un-vaccinated people are carriers, can harm our children. It’s all so enraging.

  28. Case says:

    I absolutely hate this. I’m fully vaxxed and just started feeling comfortable doing things here and there (very minor things, like going to fun stores and not just the supermarket). If people are running around with no masks on? No thanks, back into my burrow I go. You can still get COVID and get sick with a vaccine.

    They did this to stupidly incentivize anti-vax people to get it, but these are the same selfish people who haven’t care about the virus or protecting other people this entire time. So they’re going to lie about their vaccination status, the virus will continue to mutate, and people will get sick. All this does is create a nightmare for those of us who have worked so hard to stay safe for a year and a half, particularly people who work in offices and retail. Not to mention young children aren’t even able to get the vaccine yet and we don’t know how long the vaccine covers us for. I don’t understand this rush, and it makes me distrustful of the CDC.

    This isn’t a reward, it’s a kick in the face.

  29. Amelie says:

    I had so many mixed feelings when hearing about the updated guidance on masks. I’ll be wearing a mask indoors for quite a long time though I am fully vaccinated. And you can bet that I will be wearing one on planes and public transportation forever. I went for a walk yesterday at the park and I was probably the only person wearing a mask. I’ll definitely ease up outside but any crowded outdoor spaces I’ll be wearing a mask. My parents have been acting like the world is fully open, having vaccinated friends over and not wearing masks and traveling by plane etc. I am so not ready to have more than one friend over at a time. I know at some point we need to start “living” again but I am not ready to return to full blown normalcy as there are still plenty of unvaccinated people out there. COVID19 PTSD is a very real thing which does not seem to be addressed at all.

    • Anna says:

      @Amelie I fully have covid19 PTSD along with other PTSD, and this new CDC bs is sending me over the edge. I haven’t been outside in months due to the anxiety around people in my building not masking, and now that I’m fully vaccinated, I was just starting to breath a sigh of a little relief but no more. Guess I won’t be leaving the house any time soon.

      • Amelie says:

        I totally empathize with you as someone who deals with anxiety. I knew this mandate would come at some point but I thought maybe it would be in the fall when kids went back to school and had had time to get vaccinated. I’m assuming at some point this summer the vaccine age limit will be lowered to include kids below 12. It just made sense to me, plus with all the variants circulating the vaccine only protects you against so many strains. I realize we can’t have mask mandates forever and I suppose it’s not like the CDC could make an announcement ahead of time and say “On this date you can all stop wearing masks.” And we had a little bit of warning with the outdoors mask mandate being lifted for vaccinated folks but for me it’s too much too soon.

    • Brittany says:

      I feel exactly the same. I work at a local health department which is not considered a healthcare setting under the new guidelines, apparently, even though we provide healthcare here. Including shots and medical care for WIC clients. So most of my coworkers instantly ripped off their masks and my director said it was fine. It’s appalling. I live with elderly parents and I’m actively looking for a new job. I am fully vaccinated but I’m also well aware there is still a risk of contracting the disease.

  30. Midge says:

    I am writing from NYC so my experience is different than yours, Celebitchy. I live in Manhattan where 58% of us have received at least one dose. Kids over 12 started getting vaccinated this week. Our test positivity rate is below 2%. Still, I would say half of the people on the street are still wearing masks outdoors while walking around the city. I stopped wearing a mask outdoors after I was vaccinated. I will continue to wear a mask indoors, in stores and on public transpiration. My thought is that we don’t know what will happen with mutations and vaccine efficacy against variants, so why not just continue to wear a mask indoors for a bit? I predict that in the next 2-3 months, unvaccinated anti maskers will start getting sick. They will be indoors, pretending to be vaccinated, and it will come back to bite them in the ass. I realized last year, that unfortunately, many people have to learn the hard way.

    • Anna says:

      But they will be infecting the rest of us while they’re at it. And meanwhile, those of us vaccinated will still have to get booster shots in six months, right around flu season and cold weather when the virus gets worse. So this is not a win for anyone, in fact, quite the opposite.

    • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

      And don’t forget, with summer coming, more and more tourists will travel to more and more places. Without mask mandates, mutations will be through the roof. Our vaccines may or may not protect us. I’m scared we’re going to have a rough fall/winter.

  31. souperkay says:

    I live in Georgia and when Kemp allowed eating in restaurants, I did not begin eating in restaurants because I noticed when I went to pick up pizza, every single person behind the counter & in the tiny, boiling hot kitchen were all wearing their masks correctly. That is not comfortable environment to be masked in & yet, every Friday when I would go pick up pizza, everyone was masked. The patrons, on the other hand were not socially distanced at the bar and not a mask in sight if they were eating in the restaurant.

    These are the people I want to keep wearing my mask for, even though I am fully vaccinated. It isn’t about me, it’s about the overwhelming population of the country who are underpaid in unsafe working environments during a pandemic. I have adjusted to wearing a mask, it isn’t a big deal. The people who never adjusted to mask wearing and are not vaccinated are the ones that can hurt our large & unprotected labor population in the US the most, so I am fine continuing to wear my mask for them.

  32. Nic919 says:

    Isn’t herd immunity achieved at 70% of the population? While the US is further ahead than most for vaccination it is still not enough to stop the spread of the virus. And few kids under 16 have been vaccinated so they are total targets. Same as immuno compromised people.
    While I understand loosening things outdoors, it is still not safe to do it indoors when a large number still aren’t vaccinated much less fully vaccinated.

  33. K says:

    Please see the story about the Yankees. They are fully vaccinated but 8 tested positive for Covid. No thanks I will keep my mask on

  34. Cate says:

    I will probably continue wearing my mask in the grocery store which is currently the most crowded thing I do. I’m working from home through the end of this year but when I do go back I’m 100% on board with masking on public transit also. It’s sounding like my employer is expecting more WFH long term so I hope that will help to keep sick people out of the office.

  35. why? says:

    The CDC has been making very questionable decisions since this all started. I thought that their decisions would be better once Biden/Harris were in office and more competent people were appointed(many people said that Walensky was very good at what she does), but it seems that every decision that they have made thus far has been to appease whatever Fox News wants. Like allowing “fully vaccinated” people to go maskless outdoors just days after Tucker’s segment about reporting parents who made their kids wear masks outdoors. Refusing to include teachers in the first round of people who should be vaccinated while attempting to reopen schools. Refusing to give MI vaccines during their variant surge because “the CDC didn’t want MI to vaccinate their way out it”(Walensky gave an interview on CNN).

    The major problem with the CDC’s decision to lift the mask mandate for fully vaccinated people is that it doesn’t take into account the variants(European in MI and 5 cases of the variant from India), cases of Covid in homeless and Amish, Covid cases are not down it just appears that way because states are doing less and less testing as they focus on vaccinations(it has been reported several times that Florida and Texas are purposely underreporting), and virus’ rate of mutation(why isn’t anyone at the CDC asking if the cases of vaccinated people with Covid due to a variant which isn’t covered in the vaccine).

  36. Case says:

    Just want to say that I so appreciate my fellow Celebitches. Sometimes it feels like I’m the only one in my circles being cautious and it can get lonely. I’m so comforted by all of your thoughtful, well-reasoned comments on this topic.

    • Emm says:

      That’s exactly how I feel. Especially living in a red county with Dump flags and signs still up everywhere and my family being full throttle magas. Traveling into a blue large city last weekend was so comforting. Actually seeing people following rules and not throwing tantrums was so nice and just put me at ease, something I haven’t been able to feel here even being fully vaccinated and wearing a mask.

  37. Beth Curley says:

    I’m fully vaxxed but my children are not yet. I will continue to wear a mask indoors especially in large crowds. I just don’t trust that non-vaxxed people will keep their masks on and obviously stores and restaurants cannot ask if people have been vaccinated. I’m just happy to be able to hang out with friends again.

  38. Tootsie McJingle says:

    Yeah I don’t know if I’m ready to go without a mask just yet. One of my co-workers is fully vaccinated and she still caught it from her daughter. She’s feeling fine but it’s still scary. Plus, you know the lying anti-vaxxers will just say “Oh yeah I’m vaccinated ha ha ha”.

  39. Moo says:

    NO. Physicians are seeing breakthrough infections in people vaccinated in January and February. More than expected, although some people are doing dumb stuff like traveling without reliable mask precautions. State departments of health are saying no variant testing is needed so it’s not clear if these are variants that can evade the vaccine or if immunity possibly wanes. Stay vigilant.

  40. Faye G says:

    This is ridiculous, and make me so mad that we’re putting peoples convenience ahead of actual health and safety. What about the immunocompromised, or kids who can’t yet get the vaccine? Now they have to be even more worried than before. This is a really bad move that is months premature.

  41. CL says:

    I went into a store today that I know endorses right wing policies, wearing a mask, and the woman waiting on me said “You know, the CDC says you don’t have to wear those anymore,” and on the spot I came up with a reply that I’ll be using over and over again.
    “I find it helps my allergies”.
    Nothing to argue about with that!

  42. 2lazy4username says:

    this, in my opinion, dumb decision changes nothing for me. i’m fully vaxxed and will still wear my mask until case numbers go WAY down. i feel so bad for people, especially immunocompromised kids, who aren’t eligible for the vaccine.

  43. Zaya says:

    I’m fully vaccinated, but I still live my life as if I was unvaccinated. I mentioned this to a friend the other day and he chastised me for not living my life. I think it’s fine for people to feel uneasy about taking their mask off. I do. We endured a lot of trauma and it’s not easily switched off. I live in Orange Country and I was a bit nervous about going to the store yesterday cause of the new CDC recommendation, but everyone was still wearing their mask.

    • Tourmaline says:

      COViD is now the third leading cause of death in the US, only surpassed by heart disease and cancer…. I think people feeling and acting cautious and uneasy is quite reasonable and logical! It’s the people who want to act like it was nothing/it’s all over who should be questioning their thinking.

    • Tourmaline says:

      COViD is now the third leading cause of death in the US, only surpassed by heart disease and cancer…. I think people feeling and acting cautious and uneasy is quite reasonable and logical! It’s the people who want to act like it was nothing/it’s all over who should be questioning their thinking.

    • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

      I’m just north of you, Zaya. I believe here in CA we STILL have a state mask mandate. According to the State website, from 3 days ago: “The risk for COVID-19 exposure and infection will continue to remain until we reach community immunity from vaccinations. The updated guidance mandates face coverings (masks) in most indoor and certain outdoor settings, with a few exceptions.”

      https://covid19.ca.gov/masks-and-ppe/

  44. Amando says:

    I think this is a huge mistake. At least give people another month or so to get fully vaccinated. Especially since it’s just now becoming available to some kids. Luckily, in NY, Cuomo is not going along with this latest recommendation.

  45. Christine says:

    I am fully vaccinated, live in LA, and I will continue to wear a mask, because it is just effing stupid not to, we got here for a reason. I’m expecting the only people I meet who aren’t wearing masks are unvaccinated and stupid.

  46. eliza james says:

    Yeah, no fucking way. Thanks for so many of you saying what I am feeling!

  47. Duchess of Corolla says:

    Yeah…nope, still masking. I am fully vaccinated, and I am at a point where I feel reasonably good about outdoor activities, as long as they aren’t too crowded. But, indoors, not so much. We just don’t know enough about the variants and how well the vaccines can deal with them. Too many unknowns.

    Bottom line, I don’t want COVID. I have managed this far wearing my masks, and I see no reason to stop prematurely. I want to be sure this virus isn’t a threat anymore. I can deal with a little inconvenience if it saves lives. I am very sad that so many of my fellow citizens apparently disagree with that sentiment.

    Too many scientists say this is premature. I will continue to follow the science. Stay safe, everyone!

  48. Angel says:

    I’m immunosuppressed.
    I have a nasty autoimmune disease and take a drug that suppresses my T cells. I got the vaccine early but who knows if it works on me? If I get covid, I’ll have a bad run of it.
    I don’t mask outdoors with trusted friends (who don’t have children because I know people can’t always control what their kids can do in terms of protecting them.) But I only go indoors to two friends’ homes, people who are aren’t really out and about and I stay masked. I don’t go into crowded stores, and for right now I can’t travel and see my one elderly parent I still have left, because it’s too far to drive comfortably.
    I also live in Texas.
    I’m a college professor and I taught online for a year. Luckily this next year I scored a research fellowship so I’ll be working from home. I hope things are under control when I go back to the classroom but if not I’ll wear a mask and a mic in my classroom. People forget that disabled people can’t hide forever. I have a job I really like, I miss being in the classroom with my students. I have bills to pay. And generally, a life to live.
    People like me have been forgotten. Our lives are deemed worthless— I’ll never forget how this country just offered up the disabled and old as a sacrifice to capitalism. Never.

  49. Carabella says:

    Maybe the CDC should be renamed the Center for Destructive Communication. At the beginning of the pandemic, we were told not to wear masks (ridiculous), a month or so ago some official said the virus was transmitted through aerosols and not surfaces (well, where do you think the droplets land, dumbass?) and now, with only 36% of the population vaccinated (if you even trust that number to be correct) and evolving variants, the CDC shocks most epidemiologists, virologists, and health experts with the “vaccinated people can ditch masks in shops, etc” statement. We know vaccinated people have caught the virus and also that immunity wanes, hence the need for “boosters.” I, for one, won’t be visiting Trader Joe’s. I can’t believe it, and other stores, just say they will blindly follow some half-assed “recommendation” made by a loose cannon from the CDC. What is right for your employees, most customers and the community comes first. As for the drop in infections we’ve seen, that’s as likely the result of better mask wearing, sanitizing and distancing as it is from a pretty low vaccination rate. As the Swedish government states on its website, vaccinations are just one part of ending the pandemic and distancing, cleaning, and masks are the others. Yes, I’m still cleaning and masking and stores that don’t require masks have lost my business.