It’s been forever since we’ve had a story about Prince William being incandescent with rage about something! By “forever,” I mean… like, four weeks or so? God, remember right after the Oprah interview, every single story about William led with the fact that he was engorged with rage? Good times. But William has new branding now, and a new crisis manager to help him along. Goodbye, Engorged With Rage and hello The Other Brother Is A Sad Future King. From what I can tell, judging from this Dan Wootton column in the Daily Mail, is that William grieves for Diana, just like Harry, but Harry’s grief is wrong and William’s grief is more important because William will be king. If that doesn’t make any sense, helllooo, we’re talking about Dan Wootton and Baldingham and their very odd dynamic. Some highlights:
William agrees with Harry that Charles was a crappy father: The gulf between Prince William and Harry over the way they intend to publicly deal with their father has become seismic. In private, the Duke of Cambridge has shared many of his brother’s views about Prince Charles’ parenting ability in the past. However, the thought of broadcasting such private family matters in the incendiary way Harry has over the past week on an American podcast would horrify the second in line to the throne.
William has tried to reconcile with Charles in recent years: A royal source tells me: ‘Prince William is, of course, saddened by the recent developments because of the way Prince Harry is putting such deeply personal pain into the public domain, invading all the family’s privacy. It is fair to say that, even now, William does privately have conversations about the relationship with his father, which has been strained in the past. There was much hurt after his mother’s death and both brothers at times found their father’s commitment to his work difficult to comprehend.
William is like Harry, only more kingly: ‘Just like Harry, William has learned lessons from his upbringing and ensures he puts his family time first above any other commitment. But William also believes continually developing and growing his relationship with his father is critical for the future of the monarchy. They now have a lot of mutual respect and he would never even comprehend for one moment speaking publicly in the way Harry has done in the past week.’
William is incandescent because he & Harry agreed to not talk about Diana anymore? There are fears within royal households that he may launch further attacks on his family, possibly around the circumstances he and William were forced to walk behind the coffin, in the Apple show. Another royal insider says: ‘Of course this is Prince Harry’s story to tell and he has every right to share it. But what you have to understand is that it goes very much against the strategy he agreed with William following the 20th anniversary of Diana’s death. That’s going to increase tensions between William and Harry, which sadly are already high.’
Mostly, this Wootton piece is coming across as almost like… William agrees with Harry but he would never say it out loud. Which is funny, because William has criticized his father plenty of times, implicitly or explicitly. But now that Willileaks and Charles are stuck with each other on the Titanic, suddenly Will would never speak ill of his father! It’s also funny because before William finally got it through his bald dome that he should try to get along with his father, Charles was much closer to Harry. I think that was an unexplored part of William’s attempt to exile Harry too – Willy was ready to be daddy’s favorite so Willy had to shove Harry out of the country.
Also: I kind of wonder if perhaps William has been told to reel it in with all of the “enraged” stories. At the moment, none of this is coming across as a threat or an implicit punishment of Harry, which is interesting. These people are genuinely stupid enough to think that they could score points with the public if William was seen as threatening to rescind Harry’s invitation to the fakakta statue unveiling in July. But no such threat has happened. Probably because someone, somewhere knows that the threat would be good enough reason for Harry to announce that he’s not coming anyway because of Meghan’s due date, and the Other Brother can f–k all the way off.
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“But now that Willileaks and Charles are stuck with each other on the Titanic….” this is a perfect way to describe the BRF. As a sinking ship.
And it didn’t take long for dan wootton to throw charles under the bus
Mmm hmmm… feels kind of like an appetizer to the main course coming: ‘Public Outcry For Charles To Be Bypassed As King’. This piece has a weird ‘testing the waters’ vibe to me.
That is simply not going to happen.
I was just going to highlight the same passage, CECILIA. KAISER nailed it in that one. Also, William needs to gift Wooten with a pair or royal knee pads, because me thinks that is how Wooten dreams of serving his chosen royal master. Wooten practically has an orgasm every time he writes about William.
Daily Mail is on a campaign to malign and harass Harry & Meghan because every day something incendiary is published; it has gotten so bad as to involve some from the American media e.g. Hannity (he more than likely does not read anything about the royals).
The list of humanoids who work/write for Daily Mail and who constantly attack H&M are:
Piers Morgan
Dan Wootton
Rebecca English
Check MuckRack.com; this company keeps an archive of articles written by reporters, journalists, etc. To date, Piers Morgan has racked up over 1,072 most of them about Meghan Harry and of course only inflammatory and defamatory “stories”.
I am not a good artist but have come up with the idea of a cartoon showing a dog owner …DAILY MAIL walking his angry pack of wolf dogs: Piers Morgan, Dan Wootton, Rebecca English and anyone else who is involved in writing) and setting them on the Sussexes. The Men in Grey (Courtiers, William and Charles ) should also be included, however, looking out of a window from BP.
Sadly, that is exactly what it appears to be.
Love the idea of the cartoon. I would add a few courtier dogs og RR sniffing eachothers asses, and maybe som licking or humping?
I came here to say the same! The Titanic line was perfect
That’s what future kings do, isn’t it? Send somebody else out to do the dirty work.
William would never speak publicly about it like Harry did…….well that’s true, he wouldn’t, he would send out someone like Wootton to share it publicly instead, William isn’t man enough to put his own name to anything.
Also my guess is that William still finds Charles’ commitment to work difficult to comprehend.
I was just thinking to myself “if william wouldn’t say that publicly, then why is Dan writing about it?”. Also, again, harry didn’t say anything about charles that wasn’t already said before. By charles himself no less.
So let me get this straight. If you stand up and own your words and opinion like every other honest and candid human being would do then it is unhinged and betrayel. If you hide behind vast curtains of human shields (jelous courtiers, shady columnists, “royal experts”, incompetent morrons, etc.) then you are kingly. No wonder they got out.
I think you just about nailed it.
Yes.
Yes because Willy can’t comprehend why anyone would work when they could collect welfare for doing nothing but appearing to be keen
The first rule of the Royal family is that you don’t talk about the Royal Family …
The second rule is you can say whatever you like about the Royal Family as long as you only do it through “sources/insiders/a member of the Royal household/another Royal insider.”
Got it.
This 100 percent. These people are ridiculous.
William just lets Carol with an E and Uncle Gary try to push Charles off the throne.
I still don’t understand. I think I need one of Kate’s revolutionary pie charts to explain it to me.
@LMR I can’t put a pie chart in here for you but it would be one of those ones that’s mainly blue with a slice of yellow. Title: Is everything Harry and Meghan’s fault? Blue bit: Yes. Yellow bit: Yes, but in yellow.
I also had the impression that Charles had a better relationship with Harry than with William. It makes Charles actions with Harry so stupid. How can you alienate the one son who is not a threat to you ? I just imagine all the PR moves Harry could have agreed to do for Charles if he didn’t remove his security.
Because it’s not a family, it’s a business. And William will inherit the throne. That’s it. That’s the whole ballgame. Clearly Charles like Harry better.
Everyone likes Harry better.
It was the Gallipoli centenary ceremony in Turkey in 2015 where Charles and Harry appeared jointly that really made me think that Charles and Harry were on solid footing and there was a mutual bond there.
But Charles did see Harry and Meghan as a threat. Charles is petty and jealous. He threw tantrums over Diana’s popularity and hated her for it. He came to see Meghan the same way and, of course, Harry was part of that. Until H&M became so in demand on a global basis, he liked them and thought he could use them. When their popularity went through the roof, so did his blood pressure.
He pulled their security and then their location was announced. Seems to me that he would have been okay if they came to a tragic end.
I remember Diana said in her interview that although Charles was openly disappointed when Harry was another boy, he ended up being closer to Harry than to William. And this is when they were children. Harry seems more easy-going and apparently more athletic, so maybe that endeared him to Charles whose own father disparaged him for being too artsy and not “All Boy” enough.
I see one big (great) problem about Charles: his ego. He was and still is a bad father. He believes he is smart. He is smart enough to realize QE and Phil were shitty parents, but isn’t smart enough to realize that he does the same towards his own son. He only loves himself and loves Camilla because Camilla praised him as (he thought) he deserved.
Lord who can ever forget the dialogue in the Tampon conversation where he tells Camilla, “Your greatest achievement is to love ME.”
Shudder.
Exactly. Camilla made him feel like he is Royal, like he is The King while his own family couldn’t do the same. Charles is easy to manipulate.
I can’t forget that either, 809MATRIARCH. I think that statement says everything about their relationship. Camilla is his sexy mummy. Charles is a mess when it comes to his personal issues.
Ugh, you know it’s bad when a line from that conversation is more cringe-worthy than the line about wanting to be her tampon.
And what bothers me is that the phrases that some say Camilla makes Charles so happy, good to see Charles happy. Never mind if he makes Camilla or anyone else happy>
Charles is an emotionally distant father who continually used his own children as pr to improve his public image. He cheated on his wife, and tried to destroy her out of jealousy.
William learned from the best and is continuing these fine traditions of using children for pr, cheating and being an insecure jealous fool with Megs and harry. I’m not sure what this article is aiming to achieve because they are more alike than they are different.
He wants to piggyback off of the attention Harry’s been getting while positioning himself as more restrained and therefore more “reasonable”.
Wasn’t one of the reasons why William does less work and shorter tours because he wants to spend more time with his family unlike his father? So to say that his criticisms of his father were always made in private is a lie.
Charles and William being stuck with each other sounds about right. Its sad that Charles stabbed the son he was closer to in the back. I really hope harry doesn’t go to that statue unveiling. It’s not worth it to be stuck in the pit with the snakes. Diana definitely wouldn’t have wanted that.
Betty had no problem saying she loved someone yet kneecapping them as the crown. Charles may have the same ability to love his son but kneecap him as the future crown.
But Willy did say it through Danny boy rotten, and of course Willy wants to appear like he is being the good son, he needs Chucky to pay for those endless vacations and house renovations and Botox and buttons of coats.
Oh please with the he puts his family first, he is never around them . Those children know him from photos
One only has to look at how badly willyleaks incandescent turned out to know that Chucky is a bad daddy. If he weren’t Willy won’t still be going around acting like the sun sets and rises out of his ass
Also in the Wooten story, William is upset because both brothers participated in an ITV documentary about the 20th anniversary of Diana’s death, and in the doc William decreed that they wouldn’t be talking openly and publicly about her again. Now William is mad because he says Harry is breaking that pledge by talking about Diana openly. This is how deranged and jealous William is. They’ve been promoting the Diana statue unveiling for a year where they will most certainly talk publicly and openly about their mother.
And William named his daughter after Diana, and he used Diana’s memory for his kids mother’s day cards, and he gave his wife Diana’s ring, and he talked about her in their engagement interview – William just wants to be the gatekeeper of Diana’s memory and legacy, not Harry.
Because Cain realizes that the main reason he has a hint of popularity is because he’s Diana’s son and is in a seemingly solid marriage (so unlike his poor mum).
Harry’s loved because he’s Diana’s son but also (and moreso) because he shares to many traits with her.
Cain cannot wrap his head around that, and because he inherited his father’s thin skin and the Winsdor pettiness gene, he’s jealous and wants to, as you said, gatekeep Diana’s memory. It’s all he has. That’s why he’s bent over backwards through the years pulling Diana into everything to do with his marriage and family (Keen G and the ring, the kids and ‘granny Diana’), but why he is desperate to hide the true state of his marriage and family life from the public. Once his affairs are exposed, the curtains start to open. And, honestly, I don’t think the public will care if Keen G has accepted his philandering, once the myth is shattered, he’s on shaky grounds.
I thought the documentary was going to be about Harry talking about himself and his own journey. How could he do that without talking about the impact of Diana’s death on his own life? Once again this is the royals and the press trying to sh!t on something Harry is doing ahead of the game, just like the Oprah interview. But go ahead royals, bring more press to the program, I’m sure Oprah and Apple TV are thrilled.
Nailed it, HARPER, Harry is only supposed to be a bobbing head to William’s ‘decrees’ as gatekeeper of Diana’s memory. Poor William, Harry has broken free of being his ‘yes’ man.
Has Harry been talking a lot about Diana? I thought it was more oblique like, “my mother left me some money” and “I didn’t want what happened to my mother to happen to my wife.”
Second picture down with Chucky, Willyleaks and Harry. Why does Baldimort always look like he wishes to be anywhere but at work?
Because he’s not a very good actor.
So I have thoughts. I lost a parent at 10 years. I too have one sibling. We handled the death differently. My sibling, who was 11, struggled whereas I who suffered too, managed to move forward. My siblings’ grades dropped and she was always giving my mother something to worry about. My sibling received a lot more support throughout their childhood and adult life. At some point when I was older I began to resent the extra support and attention my sibling received and all of the excuses that were made for their bad behaviour. Which brings us to H and M. They are entitled to grieve separately because they are different people, however, H seemingly has little understanding that when he revisits his wounds he also opens them for his brother. He wasn’t Diana’s only child. I feel from my own experience that at some point in one’s journey when grieving and coming to terms with our parents limitations we have to accept that while our parents might have failed us (as mine most definitely did) they did the best they could with what they had in their own emotional tool kit. Harry is opening a wound with William and his father that may never heal because he is doing so publicly and with anger. Perhaps because I have a more reserved and private personality, I don’t think that this is going to heal anyone, lest of all him. But he is going to score a lot of attention at the disservice to his father and grandparents who were from a different era and admittedly raised to never show emotion publicly. I think H is impetuous and immersed in his own grievances. I do think he will regret trashing his family. I also think he could deliver his message without disrespecting his entire family, regardless of how they treated him. Talking about Diana’s death is so complex because it’s not like she died of cancer, she was killed in a car crash while chased by the paps. So there’s Harry’s hatred of the press, which didn’t kill her, the drunk driver did. Diana had some culpability here too but no one likes to talk about the risks she took. Plus no mention of Diana cannot bring up the spectre of her unhappy marriage. Which personally I think Charles was a victim of too as he married her for the wrong reasons and felt trapped. They both cheated. It was a bad match but the heat score is like the Brad/Angelina/Jen triangle on whose side to take. Sometimes people just make bad choices and they aren’t horrible ppl. Meghan has actually handled her family who have let her down with more dignity than Harry has. And crown prince JFK Jr. no stranger to generational trauma, never, bitched in public about his pain, although I am sure he felt feelings about saluting his father’s casket. Sorry for the long post!
I am sorry for your loss and how it impacted you.
Serious question – did you listen to the podcast? Because Harry does not trash his family, he doesn’t even really talk that much in it about his mother’s death, and he never mentioned William IIRC. He barely mentioned William in the Oprah interview. He’s talking about his own mental health journey and I think he’s done so in very dignified way, he’s obviously thought a lot about what to say and how much.
The people who say Harry trashed his relatives on the podcast dont seem to have listened to it. On Oprah he did set out how he felt let down by his dad but they were trying to rebuild relationship. On the podcast he was mainly speaking in hypotheticals about generational trauma, learning lessons from past experiences as a parent so cycles can be broken. He didn’t seem remotely angry or resentful on the podcast but fun& informed.
Charles had an authorised bio & doc which was approved by BP about his bad childhood& Philip’s toughness with his family was even mentioned in his obituaries. That the royal family is cold & dysfunctional is well known and exploited by the same press they are in bed with so this faux outrage over Harry’s comments is laughable. The press are more mad at his comments about their hate& exploitation model & using this as cover.
Harry’s actually been the best at humanising his family & the most endearing comments I can recall about Philip, Elizabeth, Charles, William & Camilla have come from Harry eg describing Philip shutting down his laptop to end a zoom on Corden or saying Camilla wasn’t an evil stepmother & how she made Charles happy& him & William loved her. Even with this rift he’s always said he loves William.
Harry has actually been kind to the royal family given the behaviour we know about just in relation to Meghan such as the bs bullying claims & a palace source trying to help the Fail in Meghan’s lawsuit. things like removing Meghan’s name from Archie’s birth certificate suggests there’s so much we don’t know about the harm they did to his family & I’m
sure Harry must know some interesting family secrets if he really wanted to trash the royals.
William may have said in the 2017 doc that he wouldn’t talk of Diana again but he did in 2019 during a BBC talk about grief- as he’s entitled to do. Same as Harry. Plus their whole thing with Heads Together is encouraging people to talk openly about mental health so it’s hypocritical to suggest Harry should be quiet.
The problem is William getting angry and pissing around his relationship and memory with his mother like a territorial cat and ignoring Harry’s emotions too.
Harry got her ring, and William took it to propose to Kate with (Harry did NOT give it to him). Harry let it go.
William would not allow Meghan to accompany Harry to a memorial service for Diana.
William wants Harry’s memories of his mother to be on his terms.
I am sorry for your loss and I can understand your frustration with your sibling but William is the one who received the extra emotional support and attention. Harry couldn’t even get treatment for dyslexia because nobody would pay attention to his well-being. He had to drop out of the military to boost William and Kate.
Harry’s family endangered him, bullied his pregnant suicidal wife, and disrespected his military service. His words are not trashing them and are more polite than they deserve.
Diana died in a preventable situation partially because of a drunk driver, but I am highly skeptical that if she had been surrounded with proper security that half of the things that caused her death that night would have happened (choice of driver, seatbelt, chasing by paparazzi etc). She did not trust the Royal security because they were absolutely going to report her actions to the Firm, or worse, in her opinion. Harry went through similar danger in that his protection was removed all together, and then his locations were leaked.
Maria: I agree with you, but have a serious question. Do we know for sure that the thing about the ring (that it was Harry’s and William essentially stole it to propose to Kate without consulting Harry first) is true? I have no problem imagining that’s how it went down, but has William or Harry (or someone else in the know) ever admitted it publicly? If so, where? I’ve never seen it reported anywhere but here.
I remember hearing years ago (before they were engaged) that when they got to pick out what jewelry they wanted, William wanted the watch, because he learned to tell time with it, but I don’t remember hearing who got the ring. It seems that Meghan does have Diana’s cartier watch now, so if that was true (that W took the ring from Harry) at least they did switch at some point.
I’m sorry for your experience, which sounds very difficult.
Harry has never trashed, nor has he disrespected “his entire family.” The Windsors have at least a century of keeping family dysfunction private (when convenient for those in charge) & it has clearly left most of them in a cycle of trauma & mutual harm. What they’ve been doing hasn’t worked to keep anyone healthy or heal wounds. As they say in 12 step circles, “if nothing changes, nothing changes.”
“at some point in one’s journey when grieving and coming to terms with our parents limitations we have to accept that while our parents might have failed us … they did the best they could with what they had in their own emotional tool kit”
This is more or less what Harry said. He didn’t trash his family. Listen to the podcast if you’re going to judge it.
I am sorry for your loss, pain and suffering. I will respectfully disagree with you in regards to the way Harry is handling this, if he uses his pass to help others who have. Or are suffering then that can only be a good thing. Just because his grandparents are from a different era and don’t show emotions doesn’t mean he has to be the same. That’s not good for him or his children or they too would grow up cold and troubled. Also it’s not even that they are from a different era because there are plenty of people from that generation that showed their families love and care . The Windsors are just cold. If Harry family wants respect, they should have earned it by being respectful to his wife and son, it’s not given because you are royalty. God doesn’t care where you fall in the line of succession. He cares about how you treated others and Harry Family has been treating him like dirt for far too many years.At some point you have to say enough is enough and put yourself first.
I’m sorry for your loss, and I’m sure that gives you a different perspective. I don’t see Harry as trashing his family at all — he is speaking his own truth, which as a grown man with an identity completely separate from his brother, he 100% has the right to do. He isn’t required to silence himself just for William’s comfort. He also has not ever directly brought William or any of their issues/differences into the conversation, except to address direct questions in a very top-level manner and certainly nothing that has been revealing or disrepectful. Respectfully, I do not agree with your take on Harry’s actions thus far.
I’m sorry for your loss.
But Harry does not trash his family. As someone noted above his mother and brother are barely mentioned. He talks about Charles but also says the finger can’t be pointed at anyone and that Charles is also a victim of a generational cycle of pain.
And you can’t compare Harry to JFK Jr. Two different men, two different ages, two different families, two different circumstances as to how their parents died. But even if they had the exact same experience it does not make one person “better” than the other (which is what you’re implying by saying he never bitched in public) if they don’t speak about their parent’s death. You’re doing a disservice to both men by doing that in my opinion.
(I think Jr was even suggested to talk to William and Harry after Diana’s death but declined because he thought he wouldn’t have much to say beyond “we both lost our parents when we were young” and honestly, he wasn’t wrong)
Jen, you lived through something so difficult as a child and I do respect your opinion. May I just point out that the Windsors’ familial dysfunction has been the subject of countless books, movies, documentaries, articles, commentaries for years. I don’t know how old you are, but I was around when Diana was alive and Charles’ unhappy childhood at the hands of his distracted, unemotional mother has always been part of his public story. When Diana died, the public sympathy was that not only did the boys lose their mother, but they were now full-on property of the cold Windsors. Harry has broken no news, revealed no hidden secrets about his family, and any headlines that he is causing his family pain is just shouting at him which the papers and columnists do on a regular basis. You must not have listened to the podcast because anyone who did would not write that Harry has disrespected his family. In fact, Harry has the dirt to blow his brother and father’s reputation forever and he isn’t interested in doing that. But he will talk about his journey and withstand critical voices like yours because he has a platform and privilege and he wants to use it to shine a light in the dark places that others have.
I’m sorry about your experience, truly.
So many others have commented, but:
Harry has never ‘bitched in public’ about his pain, even though he has a right to do so. And as someone who has seen the impact of how outside perceptions and opinions can negatively effect other’s mental health struggles, I deeply resent how so many are putting what he’s said in that context. Given what Harry has been through and how his wife was treated, he’s been extraordinarily KIND toward his father, brother, and grandparents, and said he understands they’re not perfect and have had to deal with the same dysfunctional existence (as a royal) that he has done. Did you watch the Oprah interview or listen to the podcast? Because, frankly, you seem to be repeating tabloid headlines rather than speaking from experience with his actual words.
Also, I know and was raised by people from the Queen’s era, and she was regarded even by them as an unusually distant person (and mother). I get her reasons, even if I disagree with them (Harry’s basically said the same about his older relatives). But her way of parenting absolutely was not the norm among most of that generation, and I also personally am triggered at toxic behavior being swept under the rug with “oh that’s just how that generation is”. I know you didn’t excuse her parenting that way, but I’ve heard a lot of it in relation to Harry and Charles…and it’s as bad as “that’s just how they are,” or “they meant well,” or “they’re family” (as though that’s an excuse for everything). The situation the royal family lives in and has lived in for ages is toxic, and all Harry has ever done has said he recognizes that and is trying to pull his wife and kids out of it.
It’s interesting about the Queen being such a distant mother because she grew up quite close to her parents and sister. She had a pretty happy childhood. I understand her father wasn’t king then and as Queen and a young mother she had so many responsibilities. But duty always came first with her.
@Amelie: it’s really interesting to read contemporary accounts of the Queen from the 1930s-1950s. As a child, pre-Abdication and despite having a close family unit, she’s still described as kind of a killjoy, not an unkind person but a rule-follower to the point of compulsion. As a young Queen, she’s described as incurious and socially stilted, capable only of perfunctory conversations. As opposed to the Queen Mother who was comparatively charming, made others feel comfortable, and could at least feign interest in whomever she had to talk to. It sounds to me like QEII was just born with an unusually rigid personality, perhaps something that we’d diagnose and try to find support for today. Ironically it probably made her unusually well-suited for 70+ years of perfect public behavior and relentless queening. Not what I’d pick in a mother, though, crown or no crown!
Simply put, Harry has a right to tell his story. He did NOT trash anyone in the podcast. In fact he said he was not blaming anyone. “The Me You Can’t See” won’t show until May 21st, so how can you say he is disrespecting his family?
Harry sounds like he is doing what is required to break the generational curse and that is his right.
I am sorry for your loss. I think when harry talks about grief he talks about the ways in which he copes with the loss that he suffered. In order to inspire people you have to be open and honest about all of your low points. He then goes on to speak of all his coping mechanisms that helped dig him out of a black hole. I think his story is very relatable to people who have lost someone, even if you handle grief differently than he did. If he can help and inspire people then that’s definitely a good thing.
Also as others have said, he never actually bitched about anyone on that podcast at all, that’s just the daily mail being spiteful.
my guess is Harry was doing ok, he was happy in love,found a woman that loves /understands him. i think when they started to mock his biracial girlfriend in nearly every newspaper.he saw how she was suffering. he knew what his family was trying to do to him/meghan before he got married, which made him as an adult go back to how his mother was treated. he was a boy when his mother died,many emotions he didn’t quite understand as yet. as an adult he saw how painful it was for him to see this is happening to his wife, maybe he felt he was back living the pain his mother suffered. which made him open up about his mother pain and suffering. the trust in his family was gone. he never thought in a million yrs ,they would abuse his wife like this,otherwise he wouldn’t have have said words like ,his family is like a family she never had. meaning they was so happy with Meghan . they gave Harry false hope. things like emotional pain and suffering can half way heal in a way ,that one puts it away in a box in their mind,until something similar happens and rip open old wounds. harry is about mental health before he met Meghan. sometimes its good to share your own pain,in that way you help others and at the same time help your own wounds.
Does losing a parent hurt, yes. I too lost a parent 11 years ago and I have younger siblings. I shouldered alot of the responsibilities because I was the oldest. Do I resent my younger siblings from receiving more ‘help’ than me with their grief process? No. Not at all. I knew if I needed help I would just need to ask for it.
However it doesn’t mean I get the right to decide how they get to process their grief. I would never impose my own grief process on my siblings. They get to choose what works best for them. if they want to talk about it, that’s fine. If they don’t want to talk about it, that’s also fine.
That’s what’s wrong here. Will does not get to choose how Harry processes his grief. Will is an adult and needs to stop being an asshole about it. Harry wants to use his grief to help others which I think is a wonderful thing even if its something I myself am not capable of doing. Will doesn’t have to listen, pay attention, or even remark on it. Much like I can just not do that if one of my siblings chooses to do so.
I mean it’s not like his job is difficult or requires him to sweat and produce anything, he only has to show up for an hour or less
I am very pleased that the opinions of the BM and the BRF are rendered meaningless in Harry’s life on a faraway continent. It must be hard to look down on people when you’re already in the gutter, eh, Cambridges?
a little birdie told me to watch out for rose getting pregnant this year via willy to stick it to kate.
Uhhhhhhh that seems a bit tinhatish tbh. She may get pregnant but not with William’s kid – again too conspiracy theory ish
rose’s hubby is kind of gay. he only marries rose for heir and spare. Those kinds of affair babies are common among aristo circles.
They still had one more kid after their boys (and she looks a lot like him so there’s no questions about her parentage in my opinion) so it’s a possibility they can still have more if they want.
Also: bisexuality exists. He could be bisexual or even pansexual.
hanna — the way you said “a little birdie told me” makes me wonder if you are saying that this Is the word on the street from the Norfolk set? Do tell!
That’s pretty far-fetched and unless you have proof it’s ludicrous. Rose and her husband appear to have a good marriage. If it’s an open marriage and both are happy with that why not? “A little gay” is a disparaging term by the way. If he is bisexual and Rose is comfortable with that, again, what goes on between two consenting adults is their business. I get uncomfortable when people make salacious comments about someone else’s sexuality — it’s a personal choice and we’re not the gender police here.
@hanna How does that stick it to Kate? It could bump him out of line to the throne and if we know nothing else, he has made it abundantly clear that he’s “the future King”.
If there was any doubt that Will-di-Amin fully endorsed that creepy love letter from woowoot published a few wks ago, then this obviously endorsed, much calmer, head-polishing ode clinches it.
Also, we definitely wont be seeing anymore “incandescent” descriptors…..certainly not used by wootwoot to describe his wannabe lover, Bullyiam. That means, WE can NEVER fail to use it to describe him.
I think the two boys never liked how he forced Camilla into their lives despite them saying otherwise heck even Camilla’s children weren’t happy I read somewhere that William used to fight with Camilla’s daughter over who destroyed their parents’ marriage. Probably William held a secret grudge against Charles for his parent’s public divorce & him bringing years later Camilla and her children into their lives
Bulliam was a witness for Charles’ marriage…and he looked very happy at Charles and Camilla’s wedding but he was sour and bitter at Harry & Meghan’s wedding and Archie’s christening. Also, Camilla’s granddaughter was a flower girl at Bulliam’s wedding. Bulliam loves, respects, and accepts Camilla more than Meghan.
Yet he continues to play the Diana card. william was upset at the wedding and Christening because he did not get his way and persuade his brother to give up Meghan. It was his pouting and sulking.
I really do think the heart of the “feud” between Harry and William is William becoming their father and Harry embracing his personality as being more “Dianaesque” in a way the royals didn’t like. I think that Harry and William were aligned with their dislike of Charles and I think Harry became disappointed the more William “matured” and embraced becoming king.
I agree it’s the divergence of personalities. It was the becoming like Charles .
NotSoSimpleTaylor, do you think this was around the time that Harry became aware of W using him to cover up any of W’s “bad” acts? I can’t help but think that when Harry really started to realize that he was being used in that manner that his perspective of his brother would have changed. Not unexpected, I think, as people grow up to start seeing family members as more complex people and not just as a sister or brother. What I’m left guessing about is whether W actually (before Meghan) saw Harry as a person separate from a brother?
I think there’s a legitimate separation in William’s mind between his brother Harry and Prince Harry. For example, I think there is a legitimate separation in most of their minds between Queen Elizabeth and “Granny Lilibet.” One is their granny and the other is the monarch. That’s a difficult but necessary in that life to put on one hat and be able to take that off and to keep those issues separate. I say this with respect but I don’t think Meghan had the ability to separate in that fashion. I think with her training as an actress she wasn’t able to adapt to that inauthentic way of life. It’s one thing to play a role and go to your actual life, it’s another when that role is your life. Harry was clearly exhausted by London before Meghan even entered the picture. I think his time in the marines helped him realize that he preferred his dad and royal life at a distance to his actual person – I doubt that was even a conscious decision on his part. I think that’s where the problems with Charles and William lie. They don’t get that he doesn’t want that life and never will. They don’t understand the life of a spare and never will. Harry got tired of explaining himself.
NSSTaylor, “Harry was clearly exhausted by London …” I completely missed that and I’m sure you are 100% right. It would be exhausting to live that life. It makes sense that alcohol seems to be a panacea in the brf.
Charles is emotionally handicapped and thinks of everything in how it relates to him. He is still that little boy who was abandoned by his parents for their jobs and is following in their footsteps. That is what Harry was trying to convey. When Diana was carrying William, she was emotionally unstable – unhappy, angry, and felt betrayed. Those feelings that were justified could have affected William adversely then and in all of the years since. William has to choose to be better, but he is being coddled like his father and seems set to follow Charles’ path.
Diana had a whole lot on her plate especially for a woman just out of her teens when she married Charles. She was expected to work even on the honeymoon, dining with the Sadats. , and learn the “rules”. Despite her growing up in proximity of royals, she was not told of all the “customs” by Charles. She went out and got expensive presents finding out Christmas morning they got “gag” gifts and CHarles did not tell her. Things like that. then she had the stress of getting ready for the wedding, she was predisposed to bulimia and the stress brought that on. Then she had the morning sickness which the royal ladies at Balmoral did not “understand” because “they never had it.” And Diana was worried about Charles being in touch with Camilla. William as he got older was more and more coddled by Charles, ANd Harry thrown under a bus. I notice Charles paying more attention to the Heirs.” Even in the program he only showed a picture of George his direct heir none of the other grandchildren.
All these royals are just coming across as a very whiny bunch. Newsflash, all families have problems! I do think they need to shift the narrative away from William and Harry. All of them do. Move on and start building a better world. Use your enormous privilege towards something positive.