The Sussexit helped the Cambridges ‘find equilibrium in their own marriage’

Britain's Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge and Britain's Prince William, Duke of Cambridge visit the University of St Andrews in St Andrews on May 26, 2021.

As we discussed earlier this week, royal rota reporter Camilla Tominey must have gotten her marching orders from Middleton HQ as soon as the Cambridges wrapped up their Scottish tour. I still maintain that William and Kate’s tour might have been mildly successful – or at the very least, a chaotic neutral – if not for the completely bungled meeting with Gordon Brown as a way to influence an inevitable Scottish independence referendum. Curious then that every royal-rota summary and embiggening article about the Scottish tour completely ignores that meeting, huh? They’d rather talk in generalities about how, say, Kate is the keen lynchpin peacemaker jewel in the crown because she wore tartan and takes pains to not outshine her dull, angry husband. We’re getting more excerpts from Camilla Tominey’s piece in Stella and Tominey really must have Middleton refer madness or something.

Kate Middleton told pals that it “wasn’t too late” to “pull Harry and Meghan back into the fold” before their bombshell interview with Oprah, an expert has claimed. The Duchess of Cambridge, 39, along with The Queen, is thought to have hoped that the “much loved members of The Firm” would return before the interview aired.

Camilla Tominey told Stella magazine: “I have been reliably informed she was even telling her friends before the Oprah interview that she did not think it was too late to “pull them back in”.’

The royal commenter added that she has been told that “Kate’s natural instinct is to try to smooth things over.”

When Harry was reunited with his family just weeks later at his grandfather Prince Philip’s funeral, Kate was the first member of the family to be seen chatting to him – and was even spotted holding back in a bid to reunite him with brother, Prince William. Camilla also said that after Meghan Markle accused Kate Middleton of making her cry, the duchess decided to ‘rise above’ it and act as a peacemaker at Prince Philip’s funeral, a royal expert has claimed.

It is claimed that Kate has provided huge support to her husband as he deals with the fallout of his brother’s claims, which Camilla Tominey believes has helped them “find equilibrium” in their relationship. Writing for Stella magazine, she explains: “It seems an unexpected consequence of the family conflict has been to help William and Kate find equilibrium in their own marriage. What started out as an uneven match between a blue-blooded prince and his ‘plus one’ has now blossomed into a two-peas-in-a-pod kind of partnership.”

She claims that Wills has supported Kate through her time in the royal family and credits his wife’s increasing confidence to his guidance.

[From The Sun & The Daily Mail]

Kate was telling friends before the Oprah interview that she hoped to “pull” Harry and Meghan back in? Or just Harry? Because I bet it was just Harry. Kate, the Middletons and everyone else on Salty White Folk Isle were quite plain in their open desire to somehow convince Harry to dump Meghan and Archie in America and come back to them. Kate in particular wanted Harry’s attention back on HER. She wanted to get back to the “royal threesome,” where she and William could hide behind Harry’s popularity, ideas and work forever.

As for what Camilla says about the Cambridge marriage – it really makes me wonder. Tominey giveth and Tominey taketh away. Just added a little salt in there too. Why on earth would the Sussexit “help William and Kate find equilibrium in their own marriage”? Why would it take Harry leaving the UK for William and Kate to feel like a partnership? And who in the world thought of William and Kate as “an uneven match between a blue-blooded prince and his ‘plus one’”? More questions than answers with this mess.

Britain's Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge and Britain's Prince William, Duke of Cambridge visit the University of St Andrews in St Andrews on May 26, 2021.

Britain's Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge and Britain's Prince William, Duke of Cambridge meet students as they visit the University of St Andrews in St Andrews on May 26, 2021.

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  1. Atorontogal says:

    Well that’s sad.

    • PEARL GREY says:

      These puff pieces are not giving what they’re supposed to give. Why would you think letting the world know that your 10 year marriage (and almost 20 years together in total) needed a “family conflict” to help you find “equilibrium” is a good idea? And does it seem like William’s kkkamp is hitting back at all the pro-Kingmaker Kate PR with some Queenmaker stories of his own? Why is he suddenly keen to be seen as the source of Kate’s “growing confidence”? Me thinks all the “William needs Kate and Carole” reports coming out of Middleton HQ is starting to grind his gears.

      • Elizabeth Regina says:

        My interpretation: Kate was about to be “dumped” but Sussexit made it impossible for her to be dumped as the royal family would not be able to weather another break up. The end.

      • notasugarhere says:

        They can weather another one if the BRF goes all-in against the Middletons. No one likes them. If the BRF goes with ‘Midds destroyed William’s mental health, took advantage of a grieving teen’? BRF wins.

      • The Hench says:

        I did wonder at the time if one (not the only) but one of the reasons William was so incandescent about H&M’s departure was that it put on hold his own plans to separate from Kate. He was coming off the back of a three year thing with Rose and, even if she wasn’t prepared to leave her own husband for life in the RF, that time with her would have given Will a whole different insight into what life with another woman at his side could be like. Rose is many of the things Kate is not and would like to be. Physically they are very similar but Rose is also extremely stylish, aristocratic and well connected, does a great job of marketing her stately pile and doing work for charity. Meanwhile the Tatler piece showed what an outsider Kate was still seen as by the Toffs and how much they looked down on her Waity ways and social climbing mother. I would not have been at all surprised if William realised he wanted something more. No wonder Carole and Kate were so exercised by the Tatler piece.

      • teecee says:

        I bet they could do something like:

        “Kate told William the crying story and he believed her. That’s why he was cold to Meghan! That made Harry angry but William believed he was protecting Kate! And after the Oprah interview, William thought Meghan was spreading lies about his darling Kate, which made William furious.

        BUT THEN he discovered that it was actually Kate who lied!! Kate lied and it drove a wedge between the future future king and his beloved brother! William was trying to be a good husband but jealous Kate and her grasping mother manipulated him into alienating his brother! This is all Kate’s fault! Once William found out he could not get over Kate’s betrayal. He had to divorce her.

      • Sid says:

        Teecee, you nailed it in one. If it all falls apart Kate will be blamed for driving Harry and Meghan away, and her foolish, gossipy mother Carole helped provide the ammo.

      • Christine says:

        God, yes. I do not know who is in charge, but it can’t be competent adults.

    • Esme says:

      ” uneven match between a blue-blooded prince and his ‘plus one’” – uh, oh. Kate, you in danger, girl.
      Mother of the heir, and still only the “plus one”. I have a feeling Wills is going to wind up the monarchy as we know it (and not before its time, frankly).

    • Nina says:

      So they are confirming that the marriage is/was on the rocks. The miracle of the Duchess of Sussex. Freedom for Harry and saving the Cambridge marriage in one fell swoop. Meghan really is a badass

      • NiqGee says:

        She’s clearly a witch. (LOL)

        Too many supernatural things happening here:
        1. Saving marriages
        2. Rescuing Princes
        3. Spotlighting racism
        4. Firing hateful chat show hosts (x2)
        5. Winning lawsuits and bankrupting tabloid paparazzi

        All by just breathing. Clearly witchcraft

    • Meg says:

      Thinking about this more, how much legs would a relationship like Kate and wills have if he’s aware she wanted him for the crown. I’m sure at many points he thought great she puts up with however I treat her or cheat etc this’ll be great! But after a while the realization that
      he knows she would’ve tried to marry anyone else in his position in order to be queen herself? To not be loved for who you are would break any marriage.

  2. GuestWho says:

    “she did not think it was too late to “pull them back in”.’” – Keen Kate

    “When I try to get out they pull me back in” – Michael Corleone

    • SarahCS says:

      Not specifically what came to my mind but broadly yes! This sounds nasty and controlling, ‘we’re not letting him get away’ vibes. Just what we would expect from them really and also yes to other comments saying only Harry, not Meghan and Archie but clearly they’re remembering to tuck some of their racism in.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Wasn’t she the one moving chess pieces to get the Sussexes banished to Africa a few years ago according to her pals in the press? These rota rats can’t even get their stories straight. I feel sorry for FFKKKween Keen. One day the rats are going to turn against her and all her family’s shenanigans will be revealed in glorious detail.

      • Lady D says:

        William won’t come out of it smelling like a (forgive the pun) rose if that happens either. Guarantee dirt will fall on him.

      • Elizabeth Regina says:

        William may have dirt fall on him but ultimately he WILL be forgiven. His father has been forgiven to some extent although it took years. Keen is nowhere near as loved as Diana as they went over board with the ‘perfect’ future consort embiggening articles without her having ‘worked’ for it. She’s made no impact in the public consciousness aside from producing an heir and spares and right now the press has plenty to use against her and her family.

    • SpankyB says:

      “When I try to get out they pull me back in” – Michael Corleone

      I thought the exact same thing. LOL

    • Christine says:


  3. Noki says:

    I am sure Kate has trully hurt Harrys feelings,he was more of a gentleman to her than her own cold husband.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      If the stories are to be believed Harry saw her meddling and mean girling for what it was a while back, even before Meghan came on the scene. That’s why the Sussexes took the Frogmore option. She showed her arse at the Commonwealth service in public. That was proof enough.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        The royal commenter added that she has been told that “Kate’s natural instinct is to try to smooth things over.”


        More like they are experiencing vertigo realizing they’ll have to work more.

      • equality says:

        Harry is close to Eugenie and it is claimed that Kate mean-girled her long ago so I would have doubts of so much closeness with Kate. He just behaves appropriately in public with her.

    • bettyrose says:

      Nail on the head. Harry as we’ve seen over and over is a decent fellow. He might not have adored Kate but he was warm to her, knowing full well the potential hell of being a royal spouse. You don’t even have to like someone very much not want to see them publicly ridiculed, bullied, and potentially harmed, especially the mother of your beloved niece and nephews. But I can only guess what he must have felt about her lack of warmth toward Meghan.

  4. Snuffles says:

    First of all – WHAT FRIENDS? Bitch, she ain’t got none, unless she counts the tabloid reporters she leaks to as her “friends”.

    But I can believe they spent all of 2020 desperately deluding themselves that the Sussex’s would flop outside the royal fold and come crawling back. Like we’ve all said a thousand times already. Harry leaving and thriving was NOT something they even considered. Not for a millisecond. That’s why they’re in such chaos now.

    As far as the Cambridge marriage goes, I’m more convinced than ever that William wants OUT.

    • Becks1 says:

      Carole and Pippa probably are the “friends” talking to Tominey.

    • Haylie says:


      Yup. Kate has no friends. That’s how I knew this whole story was another Camilla Tominey fanfiction.

      • JT says:

        I’m also betting that smearing the Sussexes was a project that they were actually working together on. The both benefited from attacking H&M, more so Kate than William, so that must have brought them together. But Harry and Meg are gone now and what are they left with? They are under much more pressure than before to fill the void.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        This is in response to Becks1 comment below

        Becks1, I think we also need to include: (allegedly) Uncle Gary provided drug/hooker to a traumatize 20 year old W, who had never dealt with his mother’ death. CarolE has manipulated W to fill the roll of mother because of her and K’s social climbing ways.

        I think this is the door the Mids don’t want the brf to go through. This will destroy K along with her Mom and Uncle. Certainly, the threat of doing this–and I don’t doubt at all they would follow through–would be enough to get the divorce without a lot of vitriol. We know that the brf controls the RR’s and BM, so as long as they have someone to smear they will make sure W is painted in a positive light.

        As far as K thinking she could get H back? Well, it seems during their Oprah interview that Harry said that the one years review had been accomplished in February. He also said there were letters back and forth. So, when did K supposedly say this?

        I guess we could say that W & K’s marriage has reached an equalibrium if you consider completely separate lives so that they manage to be able to meet up in public. Barely. W is almost to the point that I don’t see that continuing for any amount of time. I just can’t see this marriage lasting until TQ dies.

    • kelleybelle says:

      I don’t think they even live together. They’re public appearances in the last few months seem so awkward, like they’re meeting up for the first time in days or weeks. Sure, she looks at him “lovingly” but does he look at her that way? No. Never. He only looks like he wishes he were anywhere else.

      • The Duchess says:

        He stopped playing his part in that marriage a very long time ago. It’s just getting more and more noticeable now because of how much he can’t stand being in the same vicinity as her. There were rumours that they were taking advice on how to look ‘more in love’ at their engagements, to mirror Harry & Meghan’s natural glow, but i see that’s flopped miserably.

        I’m convinced now more than ever that William is done with her. I don’t see an official divorce yet, that will be for when the Queen passes, but i’m sure we will see more and more rival PR like this happening. William & Kate haven’t been on the same page since Harry & Meghan broke free and it’s starting to show in bucket loads.

      • kelleybelle says:

        @Duchess, I agree completely. Although I’m not sure they’ll ever divorce. I don’t think they can afford another scandal right now. But I don’t think they live together. All these embiggening pieces by Tominey and the other RRs are actually nauseating and it’s apparent they’re trying to compensate for something. To me the most I ever got them them was a good friends vibe, never that they were in love. Not even on their wedding day. Their engagement interview was cringey. Oh, and I meant “their”, not “they’re.”

      • SaraTor says:

        William’s public schtick is that he is the anti-Charles. Instead of the messy, public relationship love- triangle his Dad had, William is the Family Man, the Good Dad & Husband, the one with the rock-solid marriage who has his shit together. That’s why he went nuts and pulled all the strings with the media cartel to kill the Rose story. No way in hell he ever divorces Kate. Behind the scenes he’s probably trimming all the rose bushes he can find, of course, and he and Kate probably live in opposite wings of their mansions and don’t talk, but he has invested too many decades into his brand/image to ever shatter it.

      • February-Pisces says:

        I actually think divorce is definitely a possibility, as much as Willie’s image rests on him being the perfect husband and father. I think he is definitely exploring ways in which he can ditch her and come off as the good guy.

        I see it like this, if there was no possibility of a divorce, Kate wouldn’t be this insecure, but she is walking on eggshells for a reason. She and the middletons are acting all kinds of crazy cos they know this is the beginning of the end for them.

        Kate got rid of Meghan and harry to secure her place in the firm. I think Willie wanted to just break them up so that harry could have an embarrassing messy short lived marriage, opening up the divorce door for himself for him to ‘consciously uncouple’ with keen. He would still look better in comparison to harry. William failed, now he’s even more trapped with her and probably more resentful than ever. But I do think he’s exploring all options to get rid of her.

      • Becks1 says:

        William can get out of the marriage with minimal damage to his own image in a couple of ways:

        1) he takes a page from Harry’s book and talks about his mental health. Maybe its all completely fake, but he’ll say he’s been in therapy, he’s realized the full impact his mother’s death had on him, he views life in a different way and wants to take his life in a different direction. Win for him because he is finally actually talking about his mental health.

        2) Kate can no longer handle the workload without Harry and Meghan there to help (so its all their fault) so the divorce is to protect HER mental health.

        3) he blames Kate and her family for Harry and Meghan leaving.

        4) they just grew apart as college sweethearts sometimes do.

        1 and 4 are pretty neutral and would do the least harm to Kate. #2 isn’t as bad to her but it’s not great either. #3 is the nuclear option IMO. But all these options leave William looking pretty clean.

    • Cheslsea says:

      That was my first thought as well.

  5. Nomegusta says:

    She just can’t stop herself from bringing up the Sussexes . This woman is so miserable and pathetic. I would hate to know her perpetually puckered face in real life…ew

    On another note, that marriage is so dead. Just call it what it is. A marriage of convenience.

    • Cecilia says:

      These royal rota hacks lie so much that every time a new puff piece about the Cambs appears, you should think that the reality is the complete opposite.

      Camilla Tominey: “w&k have finally established themselves as equals in their marriage”

      Reality: “this marriage is in shambles”

      • JT says:

        I’m sure the press all know that marriage is hanging on by a thread, which is funny considering everyone was trying to shame H&M for actually being in love with each other.

      • Elizabeth Regina says:

        LOL! Spot on Cecilia. Essentially Ma Kardashian, via Camel Toe, is letting the RF and Baldilocks know that they need to keep Keen around for a while until their 7 figure loss-making business that really never was is rescued at least. Any separation or divorce will be bad for the royal family right now as the press will have a field day.

  6. Becks1 says:

    “What started out as an uneven match between a blue-blooded prince and his ‘plus one’ has now blossomed into a two-peas-in-a-pod kind of partnership.”

    That is a very very strange comment to make about a couple that has been married for 10 years and together for almost a decade before that. They are just NOW becoming a “peas in a pod” relationship?

    I’m interpreting this one of two ways:

    1) the cambridge marriage is on the rocks and every RR out there knows it, so this is just more insistence that its not.


    2) it did bring more equilibrium to their marriage because it evened out the power balance. The line from Tominey makes it sound like William treated Kate like a “plus one” and never let her forget that he was the “blue blood prince.” But now that has shifted – and in my opinion its because Kate knows that William can’t divorce her right now. Some of us have theorized that William took Sussexit so poorly because he wanted to divorce Kate and knew that he couldn’t with all the drama around H&M. If that is true, then it explains this newfound equilibrium because Kate feels like she has the upper hand for once.

    I think the second interpretation is more likely – so Tominey is correct in her statement, but when you look at it, it’s a very bad view on the Cambridge marriage.

    • Cecilia says:

      I was actually just thinking the same thing. There’s an equilibrium because kate has gotten a certain amount of power. Not because they are equals.

      Whether it is because W can’t divorce her in the wake of sussexit, or because she has dirty secrets on him remains to be seen. But she has leverage

      • Becks1 says:

        Yup, if we go with that theory that now she has the upper hand and she has leverage – what leverage does she have that she didn’t have a few years ago? Maybe just the fact that she’s the “most interesting” royal left? (I mean, she’s not interesting, but she does get the most attention out of the royal family). But that doesn’t seem like enough. Like you said maybe she has dirty secrets on him (I’m sure she does), but what would be something that she didn’t know two years ago?

      • Cecilia says:

        @Becks1 my guess its that its probably the same thing as the press is currently keeping a lid on with regards to william. Who knows tho.

        I was hoping that the media would get so deprived of sussex news that they would start singing on the other royals but it seems like it will never happen.

      • Charissa says:

        Yikes. So nearly 20 years together for those two. They make marriage look like a sisyphean struggle. My husband and I have been together for 20 years and while we’ve had the normal challenges, not for a second has it felt like an in uphill battle.

      • Kfg says:

        No, I think Will or maybe Charles is being super calculating. They’re letting the midds think that Kate has leverage but are really giving them enough rope to hang themselves. I think Charles can’t stand Kate and is supporting Will in getting rid of her, but doing it in a way to make Will the victim. I have a sneaking suspicion that Kate tried to make baldimort jealous and had an affair or an inappropriate relationship and they’re waiting to drop it. Charles did the same to Diana and pervy Andy did it to Fergie.

      • Anance says:

        This wouldn’t be the first time Kate has chased a rival off. Assuming the affair with Rose started in 2016, it makes sense that Rose might ask if not for marriage but a formal separation.

        Something tells me that behind the scenes, Kate torpedoed Will’s plans right after Louis’ birth and at the height of the tabloid Meghan-hate. Great timing.

    • Nic919 says:

      It’s crazy to describe people who have known each other for 20 years this way. They bonded over being racist? That’s not a long lasting foundation at all, especially as this seems to show up 10 years into their marriage.

      • LaraW” says:

        Lol! Racism— the spark that rekindled the passion of William and Kate’s romance! Truly a fairy tale for the ages!

      • Jais says:

        @nic19-They bonded over being racist lol. Yeah it actually seemed like there was equilibrium before sussexit when Kate and William were united in their dislike of Meghan, need to compete as the best couple ever, and desire to get rid of the competition. The equilibrium now? Is their competing PR an equilibrium as in they are both equally putting in effort? It seems weird but maybe @becks1 you’re right in that Kate does have an upper hand of a sort right now making her more equal to William. Or at least she thinks she does. Feels a little overconfident though unless there more we don’t know.

      • Anne says:

        Two racist peas in a pod, more like.

    • Maria says:

      The rumors used to be that whenever Kate would reproach William for anything he did, pre-marriage and after, he would puff out his chest and yell “Do you know who I am???” etc (big surprise there, lol).

      We saw what happened when Kate tried to throw her weight around with Rose.
      So if the second part is true, she may be in for a rude awakening of some kind…

    • notasugarhere says:

      If Kate felt she had the upper hand, I doubt we’d be seeing such desperate pro-Kate articles from the Middleton/Goldsmiths. They aren’t just pro-Kate, they are frantically pro-Kate while bashing everyone else including William.

      Harry and Meghan are giving William the blueprint to sideline Kate, with so much positive, well-received work on how even a royal needs to work on their mental health. All William has to do it state he saw the need to examine his own mental health, took stock, and saw he and Kate were friends who grew apart, shouldn’t have married. That’s the nice version. If the Midds protest? Charles and William go fully into, ‘Middletons took advantage of vulnerable teen still reeling from his mum’s death’.

      • Becks1 says:

        That’s why I keep going back and forth between my two theories. The first one fits better with the desperate pro-Kate PR push we’ve been seeing over the past few months – that the marriage is on the rocks and everyone knows it.

        I can also see Kate having the upper hand and then overplaying it. Like maybe William agreed to delay the divorce by a year or something and Kate assumes that means its off the table and she’s safe and now William is like “oh btw, the marriage is still over.”

        Like @Maria said above – we saw what happened when Kate tried to throw her weight around with Rose Hanbury, so if she does have any leverage right now, she’s probably going to burn through it really fast.

      • Cecilia says:

        I think both theories can be true at the same time. The marriage is in shambles but kate has achieved a certain amount of power therefore william can’t get rid of her yet. Since the marriage is in tatters but kate has a certain amount of leverage the kate clan feels emboldened enough to start their very own pro-kate pr. To either prepare for the worst and ensure public support or to trap william for good.

        The fact that kate has acquired a certain amount of power would certainly explaine why she looked so smug in Scotland

      • windyriver says:

        @Becks – “maybe William agreed to deny the divorce by a year or something” – now that TQ’s jubilee has been announced, I don’t see them divorcing before then and distracting from the run up to that event. Can’t see Charles agreeing to that. Could be why Will was photographed looking like such a complete pill in Scotland, while Kate appeared very comfortable putting herself out there.

        After that though, it’ll be two full years since H&M left, that should (finally) be an accepted fact, and if William still wants Kate to go…

      • Nic919 says:

        I don’t think Kate has any leverage because if she did we wouldn’t be getting such an air of desperation from the Middleton based PR. This does not scream confident at all. Besides she’s basically called an assistant by Tominey in the article that is supposed to make her look powerful.

    • Eating Popcorn says:

      The Cambridge Marriage Moto – The enemy (Catherine) of my enemy (Harry) is my friend!

    • Sofia says:

      I think it could be a combination of both. Their marriage isn’t particularly strong and probably never has been but the rota can’t or won’t say that so they hide it under “but they’re great NOW so it’s okay!”. And also that William can’t easily divorce Kate right now or possibly for a minimum of a few years until the hoopla around Sussexit dies down (which the rota don’t want to do). And it’s possible that in a few years his grandma dies, which will bring more instability/drama so no divorce. He may have to wait a few years after Charles is crowned so things can get more stable and people get somewhat used to a new monarch.

      So if William wants to divorce, he could be looking at a minimum of 5-7 years of waiting until things are stable enough in terms of drama. And Kate might know that hence why their marriage is now more “equal”.

      But it’s also William and if he gets incandescent enough and decides to end it whenever he wants, he’ll do it – and he won’t care about the bad PR until after.

      • notasugarhere says:

        He won’t have to wait anywhere near that long. Not with Carole and Gary going completely rogue. When he decides he’s done, he and Charles will go all-in against the Middletons. Detroy them completely as abusers of William, took advantage of him, point out Kate’s lies causing Meghan to be suicidal, drove beloved Harry and Meghan away, etc.

      • Cecilia says:

        @nota now that you’ve mentioned it…. it would actually be very easy to paint kate as a black sheep. Tell people that SHE was the one causing a rift between the brothers and therefore sussexit happened. After all, she already refused to correct the crying story and let meg take the fall for it……

      • Sofia says:

        @nota I know hence why I said: “But it’s also William and if he gets incandescent enough and decides to end it whenever he wants, he’ll do it – and he won’t care about the bad PR until after.”

      • The Hench says:

        Yeah, I’m going Occam’s razor on this. Kate vs The Royal Family + The British Media. Kate has no chance. If William decides he’s done, he’s done.

      • JT says:

        @ Nota it would be so easy for put all of the blame on Kate. She very public snubbing at the commonwealth service and even the polo match would be revisited. (I’m surprised Kate couldn’t keep her game face on for church.) The making Meghan cry would be the real kicker because Meg herself said it upset her. Uncle Gary and Mama Middleton’s very public slights against H&M are just more fuel to the fire. Kate gave the firm so much ammo against herself that it’s shocking to think of. She would get all of the blame for sure.

      • Chica says:

        I think many of these comments under estimate how much William also does not want to be disliked by his children, as in the case of how he felt about Charles. I don’t think the middletons would paint a good picture in the children’s heads should their father throw their matriarchal family to the wolves.

      • My3cents says:

        I’m probably the only one out here thinking that as much as they dislike each other they will not divorce.
        William was no big prize even as a bachelor, hence Kate being the only one left standing, and I expect no one wants him now with an ex, kids, baggage and a lot more media scrutiny. He is no big catch.
        I think he also does not want to end up with a very public divorce very much like his father did.
        As long as he keeps things discreet I could see them continuing this life of “together “.

      • Becks1 says:

        @My3Cents I don’t necessarily disagree with that take, but then we have what others have brought up – this weird, aggressive, PR push about how important Kate is – if there was no possibility of divorce than I don’t think we would be seeing this current PR strategy from camp middleton.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Chica, if the Middletons attempted to turn the kids against William, William and the royals would turn around and do the same to Midds. As long as an affair isn’t seen as the public reason for the split, I think William could win both publicly and privately. Conscious uncoupling and all that.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      I wholeheartedly agree!

    • So says:

      Meghan made Kate an insider by contrast & that changed W&K’s dynamic. That’s what I’m hearing. They were united against something.

      Kate’s position was always precarious because of the so called “middle class” thing. She was the girl who shouldn’t be there.

    • swirlmamad says:

      Agree with all of this, and also I think the “two peas in a pod” part references their joint partnership in running the Sussexes out of the RF. They may be done with each other romantically, but were absolutely complicit and working together on a shared goal, 100%.

  7. sunny says:

    What friends? No, seriously. That is how you know the story feels like a plant. Kate’s circle is tiny. Also this peacemaker PR is really sad.

    • kelleybelle says:

      That peacemaker BS was only positive PR to gloss over the fact that she perpetuated a lie for years. It’s only to make her look good … and it’s failing miserably. They have so little to work with when it comes to Kate that they have to scrape the bottom of the barrel every time.

  8. lanne says:

    What does Sussexit have to do with the Cambridge marriage? Why would the presence or absence of in-laws in a family business affect a marriage? That’s an apples to bicycles comparison. Milady Tominey doth protest too much methinks. If the presence of the Sussexes, or Harry, to be honest, is necessary for the Cambridges marriage to function, then we have ourselves a story, don’t we? Just maybe not the same story that this ratchet is trying to tell.

  9. hmm says:

    “royal threesome” eww. Dull & Duller need to focus on their failing marriage and stop obsessing over Harry. So odd.

  10. Nina says:

    That’s some marriage that needs to be saved by your brother and his wife leaving the country

  11. Neners says:

    Again, these reporters are pointing to the smoke, going, “See? The conflagration has been put out” without ever giving details on the fire to begin with. There is something rotten in Denmark with this marriage. It reeks to high heaven.

    • Anance says:

      Yes, the whole article reads “in the past” things were shaky but now they are fine.

  12. atorontogal says:

    This would explain all of Will’s fisted rage!

  13. Cecilia says:

    Christ, things must be worse than we thought

    • So says:

      Personally, I don’t think they will ever divorce. They are committed to projecting the image of a stable family & will remain a team in public, whatever happens.

  14. Haylie says:

    What a weird marriage, where another couple you don’t even interact with outside of royal events has to leave the country for you to find equilibrium with your spouse.

    • LaraW” says:

      Lol clearly Tominey has never studied physics: there’s equilibrium, and then there’s STABLE equilibrium. 😆

  15. BayTampaBay says:

    Yesterday, I read a good portion of the 9k comments this article generated for The Daily Fail.

    It seems the majority of the commentariat at The Daily Fail do not want the Sussexes back under any circumstances. Therefore, like any good paid poster, I just keep pasting & pasting the comment; “The Sussexes have left the Building. The Sussexes are not coming back except for short visits”.

    Believe it or not, The Daily Fail actually published my comment at least four times! LOL! LOL!

    • JT says:

      They don’t want the Sussexes back, but they consume every single thing they make with vigor. Every podcast H&M have done was number 1 in the uk, along with the Oprah interview, The Me You Can’t See, and Meg’s book. I am sure the Invictus docu series will be number 1 when it airs too. Meanwhile, those same people can’t even muster over a thousand comments for their favs, the Cambridges.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I see two threads in their hate

        1) They want Harry back, Meghan destroyed, hounded, miserable the rest of her life. They don’t want her to kill herself, they want to see her suffer publicly for decades while Harry moves on ‘with a proper (white) wife’

        2) They want both back, but with Meghan on the outside. No title, no royal duties, forced to earn her own living while being tabloid fodder forever. Every deal she makes, every job, they’ll file protests against like the RepublicUK one against the charity. Harry forced to be part of the Three Musketeers the rest of his life while Meghan is forced to be in-but-out.

    • Stacy Dresden says:


  16. Jais says:

    The verbs and subjects do a lot of the work for Camilla Tominey in the crying story.
    CT writes: Meghan made Kate cry.
    CT now writes: Meghan accused Kate of making her cry.
    Meghan accuses and makes people cry while Kate decides to rise above. See Kate does decide things beyond just picking out her clothes. At least in the fabricated CT world where Meghan is a lying villain, Kate never puts a foot wrong, and CT isn’t a racist mouthpiece for an equally racist mean girl.

    • So says:

      just before the oprah interview, the daily mail ran an article quoting an insider who said that if Meghan were to speak openly about her time with Kate it would be very damaging for the monarchy.

      I found that very telling because at that time it was clear that the palace was actively trying to get ahead of the story.

  17. Maria says:

    Man, if you need the desperate fleeing of your brother and his wife 9 years into your marriage to help cement your marital bonds….you’ve got issues, every which way.

  18. Jan says:

    If only unable had not given Meghan the cold shoulder at the polo match, the Commonwealth service, etc and this was in public.
    I do believe Meghan dumped unable’s flowers in the bin, and one of the palace spies, spilled the beans.
    I try not to feel sorry for unable, knowing she is living with a raging monster, by the way I don’t know what is going on with Cain, but the bitterness is showing on his face, a dentist would help with all that teeth grinding.

    • kelleybelle says:

      I doubt Meghan would throw them out, they are living things. She’d enjoy them. And she has the receipts. And the RF knows this.

      • Lionel says:

        She probably threw them out when they started to turn, like anyone would. And the tabloid spies jumped on it as another way to smear her.

    • Mrs.Krabapple says:

      Re: the flowers. I mean, they’re gonna die eventually, so “technically” it’s true that Meghan would have had to throw them out at some point. Do the tabloids/Middletons expect us to criticize Meghan for that?

  19. S808 says:

    Why would it take your brother and sister-in-law leaving the country to find equilibrium in your marriage…..? That whole part is very weird to say. Is it cause they were finally on the same page for once re: being horribly jealous of M&H and pushing them out? It brought William and Charles together. But just like William and Charles, the dust has settled and problems that were set aside for the sake of a common enemy are still there.

    • Cecilia says:

      Its an especially weird thing to say if your think about the fact that they’ve been together for almost 20 years in total. So they’ve only managed to establish an equilibrium after 20 years and 3 kids later? That is just strange and doesn’t work in favour of the love story they try to sell.

  20. Lowrider says:

    The Rota writes the same nonsense every time. How many times can one be a top ceo, keen, peacemaker. All of this has become so boring.

  21. Harper says:

    So what Tominey is saying is that, even up to the night of the Oprah interview, Kate still saw Harry and Meghan as puppets that were so much fun to pull back and forth and then kick around a little and then play with nicely. I wonder what was the exact moment Kate knew the puppets were serious? When Meghan revealed that Kate made her cry, or when she told on the racist concern over Archie’s skin tone? Kate must have been so happy when her favorite puppet came back for that funeral and she got to play peacemaker with her Prince puppets.

    • L84Tea says:

      Oh what I would have given to have witnessed Kate watching that interview for the first time!

  22. notasugarhere says:

    They’re still trying so hard to give Kate credit for Harry acting like a civil human being. Of course Harry wasn’t going to cold shoulder her in public at Philip’s funeral, but he will never forgive Kate for what she deliberately put Meghan through for the past four years. He wasn’t going to make a scene, walk away, and give more fodder to the RRs.

    What we saw? Kate trying to flirt with her BIL at Philip’s funeral. Once again trying to pull focus when she *knew* all eyes were on Harry. So what do you do if you’re Kate? Insert yourself and start posing.

    • Merricat says:

      Well, that explains why Kate got all tarted up for Philip’s funeral. I hadn’t really put it together before, but yeah, she dressed for Harry and thought she could lure him back. Gross.

      • YaGotMe says:

        There is certainly a lot of gross there.

      • teecee says:

        I actually don’t think this is quite true. It’s obvious Phillip’s funeral would be widely photographed, and likely those photos would be among the ones most commonly re-published for the rest of Kate’s life at least. It makes sense, especially as someone so image-conscious as Kate, to go all out for them.

      • teecee says:

        I guess I should also say that I don’t think Kate is in love with Harry. I think he was nice to her, while her husband usually isn’t, which is why she seemed to light up in public whenever Harry was around. Like a flower leaning toward the sun. It doesn’t mean she loved him, just that she didn’t feel love at home.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        teecee, I agree that she doesn’t love Harry. I do think that Harry being a gentleman, which actually necessitates treating people with respect, she soaked up. I don’t think she ever got that from W, so she wants that back. I do think she loves to flirt with Harry and probably had a fantasy going about getting him to do the horizontal mamba with her. That was NEVER going to happen, but that didn’t stop her from dreaming. With H&M gone, that fantasy is gone, too. I think she really, really wants it back though.

      • notasugarhere says:

        She flirted at Harry, he’s never flirted with her. She loved being the only woman between the two princes, that’s what she wants back.

        Kate wore a brand new, quite flashy black outfit for the funeral to pull focus. Including trotting up and chatting at Harry, because she knew Harry was the centre of attention. Had to get herself in there.

  23. Sofia says:

    This isn’t complimentary towards the Cambridges. They’ve been together for 20 years and married for 10 of those. If they’ve just recently became a partnership and equals then it’s sad and the marriage isn’t great. Also, if your decade old marriage is “improved” by your brother and sister-in-law leaving the country, then it was never stable and great to begin with.

    Their marriage must be in a sorry state then if what Tominey is saying is true.

  24. Lala11_7 says:

    Kate should cut her hair…JUST below her shoulders…I think she would look good with that look…and get a stylist that knows how to dress her frame & develop her a customized signature look that is modern…

    That’s ALL I EVA have for Kate…when it comes to ANY and EVERYTHING about her…

  25. Merricat says:

    So many contradictory messages! Are they equals, or is William forcing Kate to be less? Is she full of shine, or dimming her light for her husband’s sake? Has she a head full of Early Years, or is she desperately trying to find time for the school run? The ongoing claims for an authentic personality don’t hold up when the message constantly changes.
    We know who Kate is: the gaslighting liar who bullied her sister in law and did everything she could to drive that sister in law away. These are the facts, and everyone outside of Bitter Isle has seen them come to light. Say goodnight, monarchy.

  26. sandy says:

    they accused Meghan of bullying on the international stage and tried to link her to Jamal Khashoggi’s murder. They never meant to pull her in – they wanted to push her deeper into a depression while pregnant. Again. I hope Meghan and Harry never go back to the UK.

  27. Eurydice says:

    “Much loved members of the Firm,” really? At least Meghan’s existence is implied in that plural. But too funny how the BM giveth and then taketh away – blah, blah, peacemaker, blah, Meghan made Kate cry, blah…and oh, by the way, after 10 years of marriage and 3 children, it took Sussexit to make Kate more than just “plus one.”

  28. Alexandria says:

    They have a weird definition of marriage.

  29. TigerMcQueen says:

    “Kate’s natural instinct is to try to smooth things over.”

    Yes, we’ve seen that no matter what s**t Elegant Bill dishes out to her, Keen Guevara’s instinct is to ignore it and smooth things over. It’s been that way for 20 years, Camilla. Elegant B ignores her or treats her like dirt or cheats, then calls her for a dirty weekend or holiday at granny’s or lets her have another kid and Keen G drops everything to do his bidding. Gotta chase that crown, you know.

    Oh, wait, that wasn’t what she was referring to. My bad.

    Also, is Elegant B supporting Keen G or not, Camilla? You’re contradicting yourself here.

    Exhibit A: “It seems an unexpected consequence of the family conflict has been to help William and Kate find equilibrium in their own marriage. What started out as an uneven match between a blue-blooded prince and his ‘plus one’ has now blossomed into a two-peas-in-a-pod kind of partnership.”

    Exhibit B: She claims that Wills has supported Kate through her time in the royal family and credits his wife’s increasing confidence to his guidance.

    You do realize that H&M left as working royals almost 9 years into the Cambridge’s marriage, right Camilla??? So if it took that to bring partnership when he treated her as a ‘plus one’ before, how can you claim that Elegant B has been supporting her this whole time??? HOW DO YOU NOT HAVE WHIPLASH???

    Finally, when is Keen G going to actually get that confidence she’s been slowly quietly gaining for 20 years now?

  30. TheOriginalMia says:

    What a beautiful live story. A couple finally, finally finding their equilibrium after 20 years together. All it took was a decision by both to racially and emotionally abuse their biracial sister in law & equally beloved, but troubled brother/brother in law. Yes, it’s so heartwarming thinking of all the Cambridges have done to the Sussexes and how those actions brought William and Kate closet together.

  31. YaGotMe says:

    Sounds like we are getting closer to Armageddon when he finally sends her and her entire family to the trash bins where they belong. How delicious would it be if he remarries quickly, for the
    stability of the kids or some excuse. Then we will know who has been hiding in the bushes.

  32. Betsy says:

    Their marriage is going to break up sooner or later. What a mess.

  33. Amy Too says:

    Random thoughts theory time:

    Instead of just William wanting out of this marriage, is it possible that Kate also just doesn’t care that much about hanging on for dear life anymore, and all these “Kate, you’re the lynchpin! The equal to William, now!” stories are the Middletons (including a desperate uncle Gary suddenly) trying to remind Kate of everything she’s won?

    I remember stories from the dating years about how sometimes Kate just didn’t want to take William back after he would cheat on her, humiliate her, and dump her, but her mom would sort of force it. What if that’s happening again? I think it’s pretty clear that Kate has found being a royal to be more work and less fun that she thought it would be. She hates the work and is bad at it. Her husband hates her and they’re basically divorced/separated already. He’s cheating and could dump her at any time, she’s basically just waiting for when. But now, after ten years, she has the kids she wants which will provide her and her family with an unbreakable tie to the BRF, she has a closet full of expensive clothes and stupid hats, she has a title that she will keep, she’d likely get a big nice settlement and even a place to live on crown property. She’d be the duchess of Cambridge with all the perks and none of the work. She could finally be the stay at home mom she always wanted to be. We’ve seen how she half asses her work, has never gotten into it, basically works to undermine the family from inside with all the crap she pulled with Meghan and the face she pulled at the commonwealth service on live TV, and how she just hides out and refuses to work for weeks at a time whenever she’s mad at Will. She clearly doesn’t care about the whole work aspect of keeping the institution going. She cares about being famous and special and dressing up and she could still do that if they divorced or officially separated.

    She looks physically ill from dealing with her relationship with William and ageing in the public eye is probably not nearly as fun as being a 29 year old newlywed in the public eye. Could her mom and the tabloids be prodding her to make thing work? Because it has always been Kate and the Midds who “made things work” with Will: who would bend over backwards to get him back, who would change and accommodate and sell themselves as something he desperately needed and wanted. Are they building up her ego and confidence by embiggening her more and more desperately and reminding her that she has a lot of power in the situation right now, she’s the jewel in the crown, the lynchpin, the thing that holds them all together?

    The bit about how she used to be just a plus one but now she’s William’s equal in every way makes it seem like they’re trying to tell her either “this isn’t like the other times when he humiliated you, this time you have power and you won’t have to humiliate yourself nearly as much to get him back, you have him legally and he needs you,” or “do you really want to go back to just being someone’s plus one and give up being Keen FFQ for life?” I know everyone thinks Kate’s main life goal is holding on through anything to get the consort crown because it’s the ultimate social climb, but I think that’s more Carole’s main goal. Kate is the one actually living the life and I think each year she becomes more disenchanted with it all, realizes that the monarchy as an institution isn’t actually all that—it’s just a toxic family full of pompous jerks run by courtiers, has accepted that she’s never actually going to be accepted in the aristo circles and this wasn’t the ticket in she thought it was, and realizes that what she really wants is to have her picture taken in expensive dresses and have enough money to be waited on and take frequent vacations without having to work for it.

    I don’t think she’d be the one to actually pull the trigger, but I also don’t think she’d do anything to dodge the bullet anymore.

    • TheOriginalMia says:

      Honestly, @Amy Too, I think Kate is all in. What would she be without William? Without her titles? Being William’s ex would be awful for her & her family until George became king. If William remarried, Kate would be irrelevant as someone else would have her titles and future role. Kate isn’t going anywhere willingly.

      • Merricat says:


      • Sofia says:

        Agreed. Truly who is Kate without William? She’s been associated with him for nearly her entire adult life, I don’t think even she knows who she is without him. Plus Kate is the only reason why the Midds are somewhat relevant. If Kate becomes the ex then no-one is going to care about the Midds unless one of them is involved in a scandal.

        And I’m sure she’s become quite accustomed to the royal lifestyle. Sure she’ll get a nice settlement but the lifestyle adds up. Can she keep affording custom dresses with her settlement without an income stream of her own? Before George gets on the throne, she’ll basically be at the mercy of Charles/William for money and who knows how generous they’ll be feeling.

      • Amy Too says:

        I’m not all in on this theory, but the way this article was worded made me think about it. I feel like now would be an okay time for her to accept being left by him because she would still have her title, she would still be connected to the family through George so she probably would still be invited to some family stuff even if she’s not a working royal anymore, she would still be famous and the press would still photograph her, she would still have press contacts and could still have pieces written about her, she’d probably even keep KP or the Anmer Hall estate, she’d still have some kind of security and drivers and servants and clothes. She’d get a $$$ settlement, and she will ALWAYS be connected with and remembered as William’s first wife, mother of the heirs and future generation. Its not like she would go back to being Kate Middleton, unknown middle class girl with no connections, you know? Shes lived the best 10 years of her royal career already: the big fancy wedding, the honeymoon, the rush of interest in the new, young, beautiful duchess, getting her various palaces and estates, having her kids. That wouldn’t be erased and people would still remember all those things. She’ll live off that connection forever and continue to model her life on it. She would still be the Duchess of Cambridge and I think lots of her fans would continue to stan her out of habit. She basically gets a lot of the perks minus the HRH and having to do the work.

        It would definitely be some sort of a trade off for her though. No royal tours, maybe no balcony waving, no carriage rides for special events, less (but not no) publicity, no new royal orders…. but I wonder how much Kate actually cares about those things or if she just uses those things as consolation for staying in a crap marriage and a role she’s not good at and doesn’t seem to like doing. I seriously think the whole HRH Princess FFQ thing is more Carole’s obsession and less Kate’s. I think Kate is way more into the money, the clothes, the life of leisure, the kids, the general notoriety and status, and the mansions, servants, and cars. People are always saying she’d be happier as the wife of a wealthy banker. I don’t think she’d go out of her way to give it all up, but I can see her just sort of letting things happen if they’re happening. Not fighting tooth and nail anymore, not begging for him to come back, not trying to find ways to entrap him anymore. If Will wants a divorce, she might just play nice and say okay as long as she gets a nice settlement. (As for her finances being at the whim of William and Charles, they are right now anyways. She might even get more financial freedom with a settlement because at least she’d have her own money then rather than having to ask Charles for everything she buys like she does now.) But I don’t think that’s what Carole or Gary want. Thus the articles?

        And I don’t think any of this really acts as a contradiction to the way she treated Meghan and chased her off. Kate is a mean girl B of the highest order and was just acting as she always has. I don’t think she wanted her kids’ HRHs and status to be “tainted” by having to share titles and space with a black American duchess and her non-white American kids. Kate wants to be the only woman of that generation that anyone pays any attention to, but I don’t think it necessarily means that she herself is super invested in staying married. She can continue to draw attention and chase off newcomers as an ex-wife and mother of the FFFK from KP. Or it could be that like every single other member of this stupid family, she just acted in the moment based on jealousy, racism, and spite, and didn’t actually think logically about any of it.

      • Chica says:

        I think the earliest Keen would leave is once George is a grown up 18 and in Uni. He’d be able to throw his future as the heir around at that point to protect her.

    • Maria says:

      I don’t know. If that were the case Kate wouldn’t have responded to Meghan the way she did.
      She’s as vain and self willed as her husband. She wanted to get rid of the beautiful hardworking popular (also Black) duchess and go back to being the main young female Royal and Harry’s secret crush or whatever she thought she was. But she has no empathy or consideration for anything so she just steals and thinks that’s enough. Hence her Single White Femaling of Meghan while sending her family out there to denigrate her.

    • Becks1 says:

      I don’t know. I think Kate’s identity is so wrapped up in being William’s whatever (girlfriend, wife) that I think she would have a hard time envisioning a life just being William’s ex. I think what’s likely is that she may be over him subconsciously, but this is all she has in life and all she has ever worked for, so she cannot consciously accept that it’s not worth it.

      • Dl says:

        It is very freeing to realize you are emotionally done with someone, especially if they are bholes and you are married to them. Perhaps Kate’s new confidence on the tour is just that. She is over Willnot so she can relax and enjoy the perks of being Keenie Kween without caring what anyone especially Willnot thinks

    • Nic919 says:

      Kate acted like a bitch in her own during that commonwealth service and and it was all about not being in a dumb procession. This is the life she wanted and she cares about the petty stuff. Her hogging the balconies and often overshadowing Camilla also show that she’s bought into it.

      And her continued failure to correct the false crying story remains a black mark on her character. She knows Meghan could have said “Kate was upset because she found out about Rose around then so I accept her apology because I know why she was emotional”. But Meghan took the high road, despite feeling suicidal after all the attacks, a lot of which stem from this false article , and Kate has still said nothing. She is cold and karma is waiting for her.

      • Tessa says:

        She also went along with William’s Commercial Jet PR stunt to put down Harry. and brought the kiddies. ANd they staged a Von Trapp style exit from the plane. William holding George’s hand and letting younger Charlotte run after them, Louis held by Kate and the two taking the luggage themselves. It’s amazing that they are not called out on that more by their detractors. That was one of the most obviously mean stunts those two pulled on Harry.

      • Dl says:

        That top picture looks like Karma has already started. Her face looks like the smoking is really taking a toll.

    • The Hench says:

      Actually, Amy Too, I love this theory. It’s the only one I’ve heard that actually makes sense of the mad embiggening Kate articles. We’ve all been going “How can Carole/Uncle Gaz think bashing Will/Charles like this is a good idea?” but we’ve been assuming the intended audience is the public – what if the audience is Kate?

      You’re right in that she has tried to throw the towel in several times and been persuaded back into the relationship (against her own happiness) by her mother. She has the example of her sister married to a Terribly Wealthy man with all the perks and none of the work. She knows, close up, the tawdry, paint peeling mess the RF is behind the glitz of the circus and her husband clearly has serious issues. For her being Queen would bring even more expectation and pressure.

      But if she left she would still have her children. And she could find herself another rich man if she wanted. Hell, it would be the ultimate Diana cosplay.

      I agree with you – I think it’s Carole and Gary who are MUCH more investing in remaining close to the throne.

      • YaGotMe says:

        Nah this woman is worthless without Willy and she knows it. She needs taken down a peg and shown her lack of worth. Let’s hope his next bride dresses better.

      • Jais says:

        Well I do think that it’s key to consider that Kate is definitely a part of the audience of these articles. These articles are to embiggen her to the public but also to embiggen her to herself if that makes sense. I think Kate prob really really likes these articles that say she’s a peacemaker that never puts a foot wrong. She feels like she is winning against Meghan every time she reads one. The correction of the crying story must have been mortifying for her. I think all these embiggening articles keep her happy(as much as she can be) and William, KP, BP, and CH know this. William gets angry in private but maybe she does too in her own way and so it’s better to just appease her with public flattery. Keep her in line by rhapsodizing her through the press. Give her all the fawning articles she wants. Just don’t let her check Twitter.

      • JT says:

        @AmyToo Kate wanting out of the marriage and not giving a damn anymore about royal appearances and such all fall apart when you look at how she treated Meghan. Why did she behave that way? If she couldn’t be bothered either way and had/has a foot out the door, along with William, then she could have let sleeping dogs lie. She wouldn’t have felt so threatened by Meg or gone out of her way to smear her. Kate would have just minded her business and let Meghan do Meghan. But she didn’t because getting the crown is important to her and she knew Meghan excelling at HER role undermined her own decade of laziness and disappearances. Also she wouldn’t have tried to freeze out Rose and wouldn’t have been threatened by her either.

      • Amy Too says:

        JT, I still think she would have. The notoriety and being the most beloved and popular woman associated with that family mean a lot to her. Like Hench said, being the ex wife but still the beloved mother of the heir children is the ultimate Diana cosplay, and she can’t have another Diana who is actually a working royal in the U.K. overshadowing her. I can see her thinking she could and should still be the beloved, embiggened Kate, stanned by conservative housewives everywhere, the Duchess of Cambridge of Kensington Palace, mother of the FFFK and darling Charlotte and adorable Louis, being photographed on the school run, still being sought out for interviews, still being invited to charity parties and getting to wear pretty dresses, having blogs write up the details of all her outfits so that women can gush about her perfect she is in the comments, all just like Diana after the divorce. So in that way I can totally see her still running Meghan off and being jealous and vindictive and racist and horrible to her to get her to leave so Kate will be the only pretty, pretty Princess around. Especially if you’re thinking that you’re going to be accepting a demotion soon. You can’t have a higher ranking Duchess who still has her HRH hanging around.

        But also, it’s not that I think she actively wants out and doesn’t give a damn about any of this. I’m theorizing that she’s just not working day and night at making it work anymore. Like she could make peace with a divorce, and so she’s not doing THE MOST like she always did during the dating years to ensure that William comes back and stays back.

      • Tessa says:

        She would share custody of the children with William. And she would be subject to seeing George being indoctrinated in the “ways” of the royals and teas with Charles and the Queen. Her mother probably would not care because she would be Grandmother of a King.

      • Becks1 says:

        She was threatened by Meghan because Meghan is just better than her – better than her at duchessing, better than her at working, better than her at interacting with others, etc. That’s true whether or not Kate is a working royal. She knew that being in the same sphere as Meghan meant constant comparisons and she liked it when she won (according to her fans) but I think she knew that she always came up short.

        It’s also possible that two years ago Kate was more invested in her marriage and the crown etc and now she’s like, eh, what’s the point, I want to go St. Bart’s with my family whenever I want and not have to hide my vacations.

      • The Hench says:

        @Amy Too – yep still with you on this theory – even more so after your latest points. Things Kate really cares about:
        Being future King Mother
        NOT working
        Being beloved and embiggened and photographed
        Lording it over other people
        Having staff

        Things Kate would have if she divorced William:
        All of the above

        And, actually, as you say it gives her a real motive to run off Meghan (as well as the fact that we know she is a mean girl anyway). The LAST thing she needs getting in her way is a better Royal Duchess who is still HRH and in the family.

        Finally – maybe the reason she was SO angry at the CW service was because the Sussexit was actually delaying her own escape? She was envisioning a life of Royal adjacency with many of the perks and the vast advantage of not having to work for them or deal with Will in close quarters and now that was all being put on hold and, the irony, MORE work needed from her in the wake of their departure – hence the exhausted top CEO stories that came out right around that time. If we remember that was the first line. It’s only now we’re getting these stories about how much better it is that H&M have gone and how Kate is going to single-handedly rescue the RF.

      • Harper says:

        What if the reason Kate was so extra over-the-top happy in Scotland was because she knew it was one of her last tours? I do think we have to consider the idea that Kate would be just fine exiting the Royal family as long as she remained the primary caretaker of the children. I think Kate wanted to be royal and wanted to have a family, but her idea of family was based on her partner acting like her own dad, Mike Middleton. But Kate didn’t marry a guy like her dad, she married a guy like Prince Charles–petulant, self-absorbed, a user, and a cheater. Will doesn’t even look as good as Mike Middleton does, either. So she’s not been able to recreate that happy family life she had because Will is the wrong guy for her, she can’t do the work, and she can’t cope.

        Kate is staring down 40, and the past few years of royal life have not been great with the Rose cheating, the Markle sparkle, and Sussexit making her do more work. We know Kate hates the work. Maybe the new crisis managers have figured out a way for her to get out and she’s happy about it. Maybe CarolE and UGary still think it’s important for her reputation to keep being elevated in the meantime, but Kate is like, who cares? Give me my money, a villa in Mustique, possession of the Kensington apartment for 25 years and I’m happy to peace out and hang with Pippa. If Kate backs out, no royal scandal ala Chuck & Di. It’s just a middle-class girl, the plus one, who couldn’t really make it work. She could go for the sympathy angle and it might not be messy.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Kate has spent 20 years of her life doing anything-and-everything in order to get the Princess of Wales and Queen Consort titles. She isn’t going anywhere unless William shoves her out the door.

      • Tessa says:

        I also think that. Even in the event, William flaunts his extramarital relationship(s) and gives presents to the other women in his life, she won’t leave, her mother would tell her to stay. The only way she would be out if William demands a divorce because he wants to marry someone else and he and Kate would share custody of the children, etc. If she remarries, she will marry some wealthy man not in royal circles.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Tessa, I agree that I don’t see her wanting out. If they are living separately, she doesn’t deal with W often and that would make it easier for her. I don’t think that W ever respected K, and I doubt that she respects him at this point. The real problem IMO is that they clearly can’t appear in public and pretend. W just checks out or is angry. K goes over the top with her reactions. Over time this is simply going to seep into people’s conscientiousness. It would be better overall to stop this before it’s detrimental to the Firm. I have a feeling that Charles may be the one to call a halt to the marriage before that happens.

  34. Ever says:

    Random thought- what if the “equilibrium” is suddenly coming from the long awaited realization that H&M have now given any royal, married in or not, a blue print on how to leave, make money, and live a different and better life outside of the firm. And no doubt she has tons of receipts.

    I’m not under any delusion that Kate is going anywhere of her own choice, but being divorced from a diagnosed narcissist all I gather from the articles about the other brother up there is that he’s projecting he doesn’t want to lose his puppet wife for whatever self absorbed frail ego supply serving purpose he finds in her. There’s too much info about him out now and it’s so much effort trying to reel in another one. Must keep him up at night knowing his wife could tank his reputation even more if she thought about it hard enough.

    • YaGotMe says:

      He definitely wants to lose her. She is worthless to him now that she spawned. She sucks at the job, he hates her, the family hates her, she’s boring, inappropriate with other men and she has an eating disorder. He can easily discredit her and move on.

    • Maria says:

      She could never tank his reputation. For one thing, he’s the Heir and the media will play it his way (particularly if he’s giving them juicy material as in a divorce story break).
      Another thing is that the Middletons are involved, through Gary and Party Pieces, with drug/sex trafficking, probable data selling and money laundering. And how they have been very active in the press to play their own narrative.
      And if Gary was the one supplying William with..well, whatever has been theorized here, then that’s an even larger black mark on them.

      They would go down in flames and William would ensure it. And after what they’ve said about Charles needing to be skipped I’m sure he’s less than impressed.

    • Sofia says:

      Kate would have a difficult time trying to ruin William. He would have the entire establishment on his side including the government, the monarchy, the aristos even and journalists. Now they may decide to publish whatever Kate wants to say for money (they would make a lot from a high profile royal divorce and another War of the Waleses) but they will ultimately stand by William as he’s the heir.

      Kate is liked enough by the public but she doesn’t have anywhere near the adoration Diana had so besides the “aw poor Kate” from the public, nobody is really going to come bat for her.

      • Robin says:

        Exactly. She does not have the hearts of the public. She wouldn’t do anything but leave and go to live with her mum. I think this is what she is desperate to do, anyway. She could write an amazing book, with a ghost writer, but it won’t happen.

      • Lady D says:

        What she does have is evidence of his multiple affairs. Check. Charles or Bulliam for the checkmate?

    • YaGotMe says:

      She can’t tank him, the patriarchy always wins , she is so deeply unpopular no-one really cares what he does, he can trim every rose in England and be fine as long as she gets hers.

      • Nic919 says:

        Kate participated in the patriarchy by attacking Meghan so if she ever looks for pity she won’t get very much of it. Meghan was on the verge of suicide and this bitch let that false story ride. And even once it was made public that Meghan sought help, we still have heard Jack shit from Kate in terms of an apology or even an explanation as to why she never corrected that false story.

        That’s a level of cruelty few can achieve. Let’s not pretend Kate is a victim here.

      • Cherie says:

        @Nic — what on Earth does Meghan have to do with it? No one mentioned sympathy , we all want her humiliated and thrown to the dogs and hopefully he takes her family down with her. The public thrashing will be glorious to watch i defense of the lily white male future future king.

      • Nic919 says:

        By putting out a false story about Meghan in the media, Kate let the sexist media run wild with the angry black woman image. If the media wasn’t sexist they wouldn’t have pitted the women against each other and Kate went and handed them a false story giving them everything they wanted by adding a dose of racism as well.

        Besides Kate competed with other women to become William’s spouse and was threatened by a sister in law who was better at the princess job than she ever was. If that’s not reinforcing the patriarchy I don’t know what is.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Kate is no victim here. She is as selfish, narcissistic, and bullying as William. Her own cousin admitted Kate has no interest in the world or people around her, that she struggles to pretend to care. She and her family chose to go all-in against Meghan from day one, in order to bulk up Kate’s position and PR.

      • Tessa says:

        Kate also behaved in a phony way with Meghan, all on the surface and phony. But then down the road she showed who she really was participating in the flybe stunt and ignoring Archie when she was a few feet away from him. And the elder two children stayed away, when Louis wanted to see Archie she did not even venture out with Louis to see Archie.

  35. Robin says:

    That’s truly awful. They tried to destroy a couple to make their own coupledom stronger. At this point, it’s like saying Meghan was the affair that made them fall in love again. They are also admitting side on that their marriage was a sham. Perhaps almost that the Rose rumours were true. This could be a dig at some prior fling, as well, ie “you thought you had wrecked my marriage but look we’re fine, love Kate.”

    • J Anderson says:

      Quite frankly, Mr. and Mrs. Like and Subscribe are living separate lives and in different households. The clues are there in these articles from the British press, if you look close enough. The Royal Reporters are dying to sing like canaries but they are being muzzled. Once the Queen dies, I believe the truth will come to light and they will divorce possibly.

  36. MsIam says:

    Again with the lies. Up until the Oprah interview, there was story after story about how Kate felt less under ” pressure ” with the Sussexes gone, particularly Meghan. Now you want people to believe that Kate was telling her imaginary friends that the family could “pull the much-loved Sussexes back in”? And how could any sane person believe that ” Kate’s natural instinct is to smooth things over” when she let the crying story hang out there for years and then snubbed Meghan at the Commonwealth ceremony?

  37. mariahlee says:

    I feel like team Kate is playing a dangerous game with this years-long PR push. Her entire image is built off her being perfect, yet relatable. Powerful, yet delicate. Future Queen, yet dutiful wife. The ultimate (white) woman. But at the end of the day she’s still a woman, and society/the media really likes to build women up to bring them down. At least she’s enjoying her time on this pedestal while she has it…

  38. Lizzie says:

    To paraphrase piers m ‘I don’t believe one word out of her mouth’.

  39. Seraphina says:

    It’s not good when your happiness is due to others’ misfortune or unhappiness. That is something I tell my kids all the time.

  40. Amelia says:

    If you need your BROTHER and his wife to leave for you to start feeling more comfortable in your marriage with your own wife then there I something seriously wrong with you.
    How insecure are these two exactly? That’s not a good thing

    • SenseOfTheAbsurd says:

      If they needed a joint project to revitalise their marriage, why not some Thai cooking nightclasses or something, so much more constructive than trying to destroy your in-law’s lives.

  41. Amelia says:

    Also I’m sorry if this sounds harsh but Kate sounds like such a gaslighting b*tch.

    • Nic919 says:

      It’s not harsh it’s very accurate. She’s been a mean girl all her life. The countless stories about how she kept other women away from William during the dating years to how she and Pippa were bullies to Beatrice and Eugenie, who at the time were teens , just shows us that she is no different than Carole when it comes to getting what she wants.

      • Seraphina says:

        It always strikes a nerve with me when people who treat others this way get what they want. Positive reinforcement for negative behavior.

  42. Amy Bee says:

    The royal rota knew that William and Kate was having problems in their marriage. I think Harry was probably used a buffer between them on engagements.

  43. Tessa says:

    So Kate and William had to make Harry and Meghan’s lives unpleasant to achieve “equilibrium” in their marriage, and then drive them out.

  44. Jaded says:

    Inside every narcissist is a mean, insecure person who doesn’t like themselves, but won’t/can’t admit it so they take out their bitterness on those closest to them. It seems to me that William, over the course of their 20 year on/off relationship, somehow blames her for his failings, that he married “below” his status and she’s holding him back from being a true “aristo”. Certainly her earlier gaffes like the many Marilyn moments, the inability to put together a coherent sentence, her lack of any skills necessary to do her position credit, have contributed to his self-pity and loathing so he takes it out on her and has affairs. She just puts up with it because bagging the FFK is the only thing that matters to her. It’s a sick, sad state of affairs and I just hope it doesn’t affect their children. I truly believe they will divorce, maybe after TQ pops off, and the Midds/Uncle Snorty better lay off throwing raw meat to the scavengers in order to keep Keen in the spotlight or Charles will ruin them.

    • swirlmamad says:

      I don’t see how it WON’T affect the children. They’re already being trained and groomed as such, especially George. A friend of mine who follows the royals, but loves to play the “I love both couples!” card has fallen hook, line and sinker for the whole “Will and Kate, two wholesome, modern down-to-earth royals who are sooooo in love.” I’ve pointed out several times that I don’t see how someone who has been gassed up, propped up and never told ‘no’ or given any boundaries in life can turn out to be a good person. It’s just not possible. If you’re told every day that the sun shines out of your ass and everyone must bow, scrape and kiss your pinky ring, of course at some point or another you’re going to believe your own hype. I guarantee William is the consummate dickhead IRL. He never had a prayer of turning out any different, especially after losing his mother, the ONLY semblance of a grounding presence in his life.

  45. betsyh says:

    I have a Pavlovian reaction whenever I see/read Camilla Tominey. Extreme irritation.

  46. Truthiness says:

    The clenched jaws and body language makes it look like this is a couple where neither one is getting any. Rose may have kept herself and family safe virus-wise because she has too much to lose, and Will was gallavanting all over the UK breathing on people without a mask. This “equilibrium” may simply be no cheating reports getting back to Kate or they both have accepted separate lives, staying married for the kids. I’d love to see Camilla T proved wrong 100%, her fan fiction is ridiculous.

  47. Liz version 700 says:

    Every aspect of this article is disturbing. You are only fine when you can bully a pregnant woman? You have been in a plus 1 relationship for 20 years?!? Yikes

  48. equality says:

    Kate wasn’t the first to speak to Harry. It looked to me like he stopped and talked to Louise, and who knows who else off camera. Kate was just the one who made sure she was videoed while speaking to Harry.

    • Brielle says:

      I know that Harry was just being civil but talking with Kate,look now how many articles we have with Kate the peacemaker…

      • equality says:

        I’m still waiting for one of the articles to explain why there is still so much bad feeling expressed in other articles if Kate is such a wonderful peacemaker.

      • Brielle says:

        You’re right,I didn’t think about that: how come the peacemaker didn’t succeed?

  49. Jay says:

    Everytime Kaiser uses this photo of the Cambridges, tight-lipped and avoiding eye contact, each with their own little umbrella, I do a mental side-by-side with the magical, sparkly, Harry and Meghan sharing an umbrella and gazing lovingly photo from their last tour in the U.K. That’s all.

  50. aquarius64 says:

    This latest drivel tells me William wants out of this marriage. The sticking point will be the rank: thanks to Letters Patent Kate will lose the HRH upon divorce. That would mean Meghan would outrank Kate because Meghan still has her HRH, it’s just not used.

    Meghan would have pre-emminence over Kate. A divorced Kate would have to walk behind Meghan. A divorced Kate would have to curtsey to Meghan. And to her own kids.

  51. Mina_Esq says:

    After 20 years together, they needed to bully another couple in order to find their own equilibrium? Pathetic

  52. Noor says:

    What about the consequences of the strident bullying of Meghan and Prince Harry by the tabloids and its readers, the palace, the royal aides, the notorious and dubious characters supporting Kensington Palace like Uncle Gary, Lady Colin Campbell, Piers Morgan, the carnival of royal commentators and the unchecked internet trolls etc?

    The consequences are Prince Harry and Meghan are forced to flee England and seek refuge in USA. No media has covered how tough and hard it is for Prince Harry to give up the life he knows and to start afresh in USA sans security and royal family support.

  53. Christine says:

    This is 100% idiocy. Hi, royal family, quick facts, Harry and Meghan have learned that they are more powerful, and their reach is longer, while they are making their own money and not taking from taxpayers. Or whatever they call them in England. Captives?

    The PLANET sees what is happening, you all look really stupid.

  54. PrincessK says:

    Has anyone noticed that William and Kate no longer hold hands in public? They only started it when they saw the Sussexes doing it, and I bet that it was Kate who wanted to start holding hands and William reluctantly agreed. Now the Sussexes have gone, they have stopped holding hands….how stupid, do they think that we wouldn’t see through it all. For the Cambridges the competition has gone, the Wessexes are no threat at all?? I would still prefer to spend time with the Sussexes.

    • swirlmamad says:

      Did they ever really do it? Literally the only time I can ever recall them holding hands (long enough for a few photo ops) was at that 2nd Christmas walk when Meghan was pregnant with Archie, and I guarantee that was because they were literally walking right beside Harry and Meghan, who were constantly hand-in-hand at every event. It’s more normal for those two to NOT show any outward affection to each other in public.

      • Nic919 says:

        You would have to scour photos for the decade and you will not find more than two or three instances. The Christmas time being one of them.

  55. BooyahB!tches says:

    Ha! “His plus-one”!!!!

  56. Lizzie says:

    Not too late to pull them back in? When they wanted to stay all along but were told no and every door slammed in their faces?
    IDk if this turn around is due to the guardian article or Biden coming to town in a week but it’s amazing.

  57. Bex says:

    Aww…they were united in their desire to undermine and drive out their brother and sister-in-law. Treacherous spouses who plot together, stay together.

    Apparently. 😑

  58. Vanessa says:

    So let me get this straight it wasn’t the birth of their three kids that brought excitement into the Cambridge’s marriage . It was the goal of driving Meghan out the royal family through either death or divorce the Cambridge’s are two evil cruel people who enjoyed watching another human being sufferers that what made their marriage work for the past two years. That’s what this Royal Reporters is saying that up until Meghan the Cambridge’s marriage was struggling and it was the common goal of destroying Meghan that brought joy into William and Kate life . What a sad pathetic life those two live they are only happy when they are trying to hurt another human being while Meghan and Harry and Archie are thriving and happy the Cambridge’s stay miserable.

  59. yinyang says:

    [Kate told pals it “wasn’t too late” to “pull Harry and Meghan back into the fold” before their bombshell interview with Oprah.]

    Oh sure, and this whole thing was a big misunderstanding and Meghan ruined their chance at reconciliation after holding her tongue for three years, blame meg blame meg blame meg.

  60. toni says:

    Ok CarolE!!!

  61. toni says:

    Cleanup Crew has arrived