Prince Harry & Meghan will not be ‘iced out’ of invitations to the Queen’s 2022 Jubilee

Prince Charles, Prince Andrew, Camilla Duchess of Cornwall, Queen Elizabeth II, Meghan Duchess of Sussex, Prince Harry at the 100th Anniversary of the Royal Air Force, Buckingham Palace, London, UK on Tuesday 10th July 2018

I was on the royal beat here on this blog for Queen Elizabeth’s “Diamond Jubilee” in 2012. It was okay. Maybe you had to be a royalist in Britain to really enjoy it. Mostly it was just a grim-looking Queen doing sh-t like “stare down a regatta on the Thames” and “wear a lot of hats.” Next year will mark the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee, meaning her seventieth year on the throne. It’s a historic amount of time for one monarch. Liz is obviously making lots of plans for 2022, and the plans are already being rolled out this month.

The plans? Liz and her fam will travel around the UK ahead of the Platinum Jubilee Weekend in June 2022. It will be a four-day weekend in the UK, meaning a “bank holiday,” meaning no one has to work. During those four days, the palace will host a number of events, like a giant parade for Trooping the Colour, then “lighting of the Platinum Jubilee beacons throughout the United Kingdom, Channel Islands, Isle of Man, UK overseas territories, and, for the first time ever, in the capital cities of Commonwealth countries.” There’s a trip to church, then a trip to the horse races, then a live concert (all on the same day). There’s “The Big Lunch” and the Platinum Jubilee Pageant and the Festival of Keen Buttons, not to mention The Grand Dance of Hair-Free. You get the idea! So of course everyone wants to know: will the Duke and Duchess of Sussex be there?

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are “absolutely” on the Queen’s invite list for her Platinum Jubilee — and won’t be “iced out,” multiple sources tell Page Six. The couple — who have left the royal family shell-shocked with a steady stream of claims about their terrible time behind palace walls — will be expected back in the UK to celebrate Her Majesty’s 70 years on the throne next year.

It was announced Wednesday there will be a four-day weekend, including a party at Buckingham Palace, to celebrate the Jubilee in June 2022. And a well-placed insider told us the family will be looking forward to meeting the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s new baby girl — who is due any day now.

“Of course they’re invited, it’s a family event!” said the insider, pointing out that both Harry and his brother, Prince William, wore their Jubilee medals at the Duke of Edinburgh’s funeral in April. Another source said that “so much” can happen in a year, echoing that the family will want to see the Sussexes’ son, Archie, and their new baby girl.

The Jubilee celebrations will likely be the first time the couple will be back in Harry’s homeland together since they sensationally quit the royal family in 2020 and moved to California. Archie has also only seen his cousins, Prince William and Kate Middleton’s three children — Prince George, 7, Princess Charlotte, 6, and 3-year-old Prince Louis — a few times before moving to the States.

[From Page Six]

Honestly? I’m sure the Queen will invite the Sussexes. And I think that date will become the next big thing, the next big focal point for the British tabloids. They’ll try to hold the invitation over Harry and Meghan’s heads, like “if Harry and Meghan don’t behave, they won’t be invited to the Platinum Jubilee!” Or “If H&M don’t stop talking, their invites will be rescinded and handed out to James Middleton and his dogs!” It’s just another thing for these sad people to use as some kind of dumbf–k cudgel. The only way it would have worked is if Harry and Meghan actually gave a sh-t about reconciling or hanging out with salty white folks. I can see Meghan putting the palace invitation on the Montecito refrigerator and saying “we’ll talk about whether we should RSVP when it’s closer to the date.”

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  1. Aurora says:

    I don’t understand why they’d even consider participating in events held by such an unapologetically racist institution.

    • Cecilia says:

      I feel like this is the press telling the royal family that meghan and harry better be there. By the ridiculous wine story we covered yesterday its clear that the BM is ITCHING for stories where they can use “ my palace source”.

      This is why im so incredibly happy that harry and meghan are in the states now.

      • Amy Too says:

        This all sounds like demands. They’re not “invited” to be there theyre “expected” to be there. And they must bring their children because the royals want to meet baby girl sussex—Guess that means no one will be making a trip to Cali to visit the new baby at her own home, no, the one year old baby is expected to fly cross country to come to them!—and Archie must come to hang out with the Cambridge kids. You can’t treat people like shit and then command that they come celebrate you AND bring their kids into the toxic mess.

      • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

        I can see H&M flying in, under the radar (with the kids), having PRIVATE time w/TQ, perhaps even staying with Eugenia at Frogmore (to avoid hotel workers or workers at a private home selling them out). Then just as quietly leave, before any of the big hoopla starts. As we’ve seen, the Sussexes get shit done, and are out of the house, before word leaks of them being there.

        I can’t see this family swallowing their MASSIVE pride and issuing ANY kind of formal apology TO the Sussexes. PERHAPS, a “generalised” apology in the form of: “We’ve been shown that things were not as we thought, that racism was continuing to thrive, and we are taking all the proper steps to correct and irradiate this atmosphere within the royal houses” or some such rot (that they won’t *really* mean).

      • Golly Gee says:

        That was my first thought too. They’ll get a year’s worth of copy out of that.

        But holy gaslighting hell! “ of course they’re invited! It’s a family event“. And everyone wants to meet baby girl Sussex. 🤥

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      I laughed so hard when I read this. The penny is finally dropping for the RF and BM. It’s been confirmed that the family and establishment are institutionally racist to the whole world and in today’s climate that is a stench and stain that can’t be whitewashed by the not so magnificent seven. I wonder what else is about to be uncovered. The jubilee will be celebrated whether the Sussexes attend or not but it looks BETTER for the RF if BOTH of them attend. Plus it helps them sell the “we have forgiven them and brought them back into the fold” stories. This is where the Sussexes need to call the shots. Pull back your attack dogs and stop leaking before we think of moving an inch in your direction.

      • Cecilia says:

        I completely agree with you. I think the sussexes will dominate the jubilee news circle whether they’re there or not. But harry needs to dig his heels in the sand and say that until they’ve PUBLICLY apologized for falsely accusing her of bullying And publicly apologized for the agony they’ve put her through he, his wife and his kids won’t be there.

        Sorry but the accusations of racism don’t really have the same effect if you then proceed to play happy family with them while the racists have taken absolutely no accountability.

    • PEARL GREY says:

      Harry and especially Meghan are damned if they do go and damned if they don’t. If they go, the press (and even some supporters) won’t hesitate to accuse them of hypocrisy for calling the institution out on their racism and the family on their dysfunction but still going to their royal event. If they don’t go, the usual chorus of “the Sussexes SNUBBED the royals!” and “the poor Queen will DIE before seeing Archie and baby girl!” will commence, along with the usual “blindsided” and “last straw” palace commentary. I hope Harry and Meghan do whatever they feel is right for them and their family because no matter what they decide, they can’t please everyone.

      • Cecilia says:

        @pearl Grey: im not saying that i wouldn’t support them if they decided to go. In fact i think the chances of them attending are quite high and i will always support them. But that doesn’t change the fact that it would downplay very serious (and very credible) racism accusations. Not to mention that the BM wouldn’t know how to act, as we’ve seen with Philips funeral.

        If they don’t go and we get the usual “queen snubbed/ blindsided/ heartbreak” etc etc i would say let them. At that point the british media is just repeating what they’ve been saying for years now. Won’t have the same effect.

      • PEARL GREY says:


        My comment wasn’t aimed at you, I wrote it before I scrolled down to read. And you’re right, the press have become so predictable in their coverage of the Sussexes that anyone of us can foresee their pathetic headlines in advance. I’m leaning towards Harry and Meghan staying in sunny California and letting the Windsor kkklan have their dry jubilee while Keen and Peen desperately pimp their kids out to compensate (because we all know the rota will want blood from the Cambridges if Harry and Meghan are a no-show), but who knows what they will decide.

      • bettyrose says:

        There’s got to be a way they can work this to their own advantage. London is a wonderful city and they have plenty of connections there. They have every right to stay at Frogmore, but they shouldn’t. They should stay in a lovely hotel (with their security, of course), go to the event AND visit their charities. Maybe catch a show? They can well afford to visit London as private citizens and they should. Enjoy!

    • Eurydice says:

      I think they will go. Harry loves his grandmother and Meghan has said that TQ, as a person, was very nice to her. And just because H&M have left the RF doesn’t mean they’ll never again face a tiresome duty – just as Harry honored his grandfather, he will honor his grandmother. The media will say whatever they want, regardless.

      • Becks1 says:

        I think they will go as well – it will be in support of the Queen, not any of the rest of them. I think they will make a few select appearances at some of the events, not all of them, and I don’t think we will see the kids.

      • GraceB says:

        I’m quite confused by this argument of H&M being supportive of the Queen. People on here keep pointing out how terrible and racist the Queen is. She apparently has no POC as office staff and all of this stuff that happened to H&M happened on her watch but it’s ok that H&M are still supportive of her?

        Is it because she’s elderly? I mean Charles is elderly too. At what point do you get the OAP pass on racism?

      • Sofia says:

        @GraceB: The Corden and Oprah interviews make it clear that the Sussexes are in regular contact with her and do like her. Harry even said there’s regular Zoom calls with her.

      • Eurydice says:

        @GraceB – People say a lot of things, the press says a lot of things, but the only real authority on what happened to Harry and Meghan are Harry and Meghan themselves. They have said that the Queen and Phillip were not the source of the racists comments about Archie, Meghan has said the Queen was sweet to her, Harry has said that they’ve kept in touch with his grandparents all through this past year, he said that the Queen sent Archie a birthday present. Based on how they’ve described their personal relationship with Harry’s grandmother, it makes sense that they would join in a celebration for her, probably as Becks says, in a limited and personal way.

    • murt says:

      They’re still part of the institution even though they’ve left in one sense. They wanted to remain part of it. That’s why I’m a fan of noone here.

    • Sondra says:

      At the end of the day, they are still Harry’s family.

  2. M says:

    No way can they be expected to travel back given she’s due soon. They have their out should they want it.

  3. Oh_Hey says:

    This is the new “one year review” or Diana statue event. This breathless will they or won’t they until the very end. My guess is that unless he’ll freezes over the BRF act right for once they won’t be stepping foot onto the salty isle

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      I love how they keep moving the goal posts. I also love how Ms Karma keeps popping round for a visit at the palaces. The unearthing of the historical racism claims hit them hard and I just feel that there is a lot brewing with that family in the press right now. The beast needs to be fed and there are no more leaks about the Sussexes. The RF need the Sussexes to attend the event to change the narrative. Let’s continue to watch this space.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        Karma has been wonderful

      • Lady D says:

        Is there really blowback over those historical racism claims, @Elizabeth R? Will anything be done about it, or will this too be swept under a rug to be brought out again to tsk, tsk over in another 50 years?

  4. Feebee says:

    Harry will definitely be there but he’ll be there for his Grandmother, not The Firm. It’s for that reason I don’t know if Meghan is a lock but she may decide to go for the Queen also. I’ll laugh if they leave the kids with Doria for the week.

    • Cecilia says:

      I hope they leave the kids with doria. I honestly do not trust the windsors

      • Anance says:

        Me neither. I would hate for the Queen to suddenly decide she has parental ownership over Archie and sis, resulting in Meghan and her babies refugeeing in the American Embassy.

        Maybe not. That’s a popcorn event.

      • Tessa says:

        The Queen is 95, not in any position to take care of small children. This ancient “rule” was only mentioned since Archie was born, apparently it does not apply to other great grandchildren.

      • Curious says:

        I read something about when Diana and Charles marriage was on the rocks. and if they got divorced ,that the queen was within her rights to take custody of Diana children, cause William is the heir. I also read that Diana didn’t like when only William was allowed to spend time with the queen, Diana wanted also Harry to be with his brother. The queen was clearly treating William as the most precious child cause he is the heir . but it seems with Harry she had a more relax relationship with him. the same happened to Charles ,he was more with his grandmother learning the ropes of being the future king. while Anne , Andrew was set aside. the heirs to the throne are more protected then their siblings .they are not allowed to take part in anything that might put their life in danger..they are boxed inn .Harry life was more free, the most wild thing William ever did was going to parties and getting drunk, not much else he could do. I also read that George use to visit the queen without his siblings. now that the queen is 95 ,there is no one else but the courtiers to plan out George life and teachings .Camilla /Charles are not doing it …

    • Jegede says:

      If I were Meghan, I would want to hear about the update of the bullying investigation against me, before I ever engage these people again.🙁🙁

      Oh and I would want to check any gifts they hand to me, in case they are set-up gifts from murderous regimes to leak to the tabloids against me later.😠😠

  5. Zapp Brannigan says:

    Not being morbid, but is it not wildly optimistic to organise an event a year in advance for a person of the Queen’s age? Maybe see if the queen will be attending before coming for H&M.

    • Izzy says:

      I had the same thought. Morbid or not, it is a realistic question to ask.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        It’s not morbid, it’s the truth. Add to the fact that PP is gone now, a lot can happen in a year.

      • LaraW” says:

        @BothSides — for a moment I thought you were referring to Party Pieces and was all “oh they’re insolvent and shutting down now?” Then I had some coffee, lol.

      • 809Matriarch says:

        It is completely reasonable. They were going on and on about what kind of celebration Philip would have for his century and oops.

      • fluffy_bunny says:

        She might kick it before then. Sometimes long time spouses die around 6 months to a year after their partner. We seriously thought my grandmother was going to after my grandfather died. She was hospitalized for 6 months and everyone came home for Christmas that year even though she was in the hospital.

    • Oh_Hey says:

      Didn’t want to say but yes given how all that planning for 100 years of Phillip went.

    • Chrissy (The Original) says:

      I was thinking the same but right now, this announcement is a distraction from the stories about The Raging One’s involving himself in the Scottish Leave debate with Brown as well as BP opting out of anti-discrimination laws. I just wonder how much this so-called Jubilee is going to cost the British taxpayer because you know the Royal would never think about that. PR is their lifeblood.

      • Gail says:

        It will not just cost the British taxpayers. All the Commonwealth countries are expected to chip in, based on a percentage of GDP.
        I’m willing to participate in a Canadian revolt……….

      • Hell Nah! says:

        Gail, I’d be right behind you with my pitchfork in hand.

      • Golly Gee says:

        Right behind you Gail! And I wonder if it’s chipping in for the celebrations in Britain but then having to pay 100% for the fireworks in one’s own country?

    • Anna says:

      I had the same thoughts and not to be morbid but something in me said, well she ain’t going to make it. Just a feeling I had when I heard the news.

    • Jo73c says:

      Stop trying to jinx my 4-day weekend!

    • Lauren says:

      Normally yes, but seeing the scale of the event not really. Event planning especially if the events are massive and a lot and involves a lot of vip’s requires months and months of careful planning. Also they probably have a parallel plan on what to do if the Queen were to pass before the event itself.

      • Anance says:

        It would be the most important funeral this century. Drop the jubilee and on to London Bridge.

    • SarahCS says:

      I was speaking to someone who works in a sector where they are involved in elements of the activities which will take place for this on a fairly large scale (there, that should be vague enough to protect their identity) and she was saying that one way or another things will take place. If Petty Betty is still here then yay but otherwise there will be more of a celebration of her reign.

      Now, having said that, she’s pragmatic and pushing for more activities focussed on great things in the UK now and looking ahead rather than all being about Betty, just in case, but is getting push back from those who want a giant birthday party for one old woman.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “but otherwise there will be more of a celebration of her reign.”

        With King Charles III as Master of Ceremony and the center of the celebration.

      • BlueToile says:

        I think it sounds kind of creepy to have a big celebration of her reign if she is, in fact, already dead.

      • windyriver says:

        Always fun to hear some BTS info on things! Yes, this person sounds pragmatic about what type of activities to plan, for several reasons besides the possibility of something happening to TQ. And no surprise she’s getting push back. But if we’ve learned anything about the RF/Firm in the last few years, it’s that they unerringly chose the least pragmatic/worst option in most situations.

        @BlueToile, I’ve been to two events occurring a bit after people have passed that were called memorials/celebrations of life. I don’t think it’s that uncommon, and people would want to celebrate TQ in some way after so many years. For many people, she’s been the face of the RF their entire lives.

        What’s a little creepy to me is – being involved in the planning, and not being sure which event you’re actually working towards.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @BlueToile – They will just rename it a “Memorial Service & Celebration”.

    • Sofia says:

      You’re not being morbid and it’s valid thought to have. There was talk for Philip’s 100th birthday and the man himself died 2 months before. She’s 95 so a bad cold could take her out.

      But as @SarahCS said, if she dies before then it’ll just turn into a celebration of her in death.

    • Seraphina says:

      Not morbid at all, it’s reality. And at her age can she keep up with that schedule – I grew tired just reading it.

    • AmB says:

      No kidding! My first thought was, “Are they trying to kill her?!?!?”

  6. SomeoneCerulean says:

    H & M may travel back, but if I were them, I’d leave the babies at home. Who know what shenanigans the BRF will get up to when those babies are in the country. The babies are an excellent pressure point for H, so if The Firm gets their hands on them (Archie & Baby Sussex) who knows what the BRF will try.

    • Amy Too says:

      I imagine the BRF would want Harry and Meghan all over the place for pictures and to feed the press, and I also imagine Harry and Meghan do not want to subject their babies to that. So if they brought them, it would be a lot of being away from the kids while the kids are left with nannies somewhere. Is that worth it when the reason you’re away from the kids is to celebrate an institution that nearly took your life and broke your soul just because you’re black and they’re all racist and white?

    • Oh-Dear says:

      I would leave the kids at home and limit participation in family and friend type gatherings, not the parading parts. I am sure there will be receptions and teas and that sort of thing, so just attend those and then use the time everyone is out in public to visit their old charities if they are open.

    • Anance says:

      Meghan, Archie, and Little Girl Sussex will refugee to the American Embassy. And another Oprah interview.

    • Tessa says:

      No way the royals can touch those Sussex children and try to keep them. The monarchy would end then if they even tried.

      • Kkat says:

        The kids are Americans citizens, the BRF have no hold on them. It would be an international incident.
        And you can bet Harry and Meghan would be EXTREMELY loud about it

      • Greywacke says:

        If they refused the Sussex kids’ titles, why would they BRF want them? They clearly don’t care about Meghan or their children, just Harry.

  7. Andrea MacAulay says:

    It’s in 2022. Pretty sure the wee lass will be born by then ….

  8. Susan says:

    If I were Meghan I wouldn’t go. If Harry decides he must go, I’d get it, but if I were her I wouldn’t set foot on that island ever again.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      I would be right there with you. So sorry but I have an appointment with the handyman to unclog one of our 14 toilets that day

    • Robin says:

      They actually don’t deserve to have Meghan at one of their pointless shindigs.

    • Brielle says:

      I am with you Susan…If I was Meg,I would never go back to England nor my kids…there is just no way after all that happened and I know some say that Harry and Meg said only good things about Elisabeth but she is the source of everything or at least she knows what’s happening specially with Angela Kelly…

    • Lorelei says:

      This might be an unpopular opinion but I don’t think either one of them should go anywhere near those people after the way they’ve been treated.

      They can still maintain their relationship with the Queen privately, as they have been doing, so she will know that they’re happy about her record-breaking reign or whatever without them having to subject themselves to the sh!tshow that would definitely ensue if they attend. They could congratulate her and maybe send some sort of meaningful gift, to show their respect while standing their ground.

      Philip’s funeral was different, because obviously it was a funeral, and I believe that nothing could keep Harry from attending the Queen’s funeral when the time comes. But happy, smiley, celebratory stuff? IMO they should stayTF away (unless they get that public apology, but I’m not holding my breath).

      And at the end of the day, the Queen did have the power to stop some of the smears against them but chose not to. So I don’t even know why Meghan tolerates her at all. Even if she was “nice” in person, she didn’t do *a single thing* to rein in the press when the Sussexes were still in the UK. Actions speak louder than words and Meghan knows it.

      ETA @Liz 700 LMFAOOOOO 😭

      • Robin says:

        Yes. I agree, Lorelei. I don’t think they should go. They should not give these people the slightest chance of legitimising what they did.

  9. taris says:

    okaaay, so just as the royal family is in some shit (again) this week suddenly we start hearing about how the queen is so gracious and forgiving, and oh also the royal family is totally not racist. please.

    they need to find another way to dig themselves out of their mess and stop dragging harry and meghan into their shit every. damn. time.

    i hope h&m are smart enough to not let themselves and their babies be used for some cheap publicity stunt by these shameless people.

    • taris says:

      “of course they’re invited, it’s a family event!” 

      funny way of (not) admitting how badly the royals need harry and meghan (if only for pr purposes).

      royalists really want is to believe it’s h&m who should be begging for forgiveness, behaving, stop talking, when really even the blind can see what a mess the royal family is right now. h&m are flourishing, they’re doing just fine, so of course they royals have to try and stake some kind of ownership over them, still (“we’re family!”).
      give me a fucking break.

      • JT says:

        The only way that family can rehab some sort of semblance of an image is with H&M. Since the Sussexes left, the royals just keep fucking up. They haven’t been able to breathe since H&M stepped down. I expect more of these type of articles, with their normal fuckshit thrown in for good measure. Harry better get some extra therapy for the guilt trips about to be laid on him. I’m sure the “queen’s dying wish” stories are coming as well.

      • LaraW” says:

        @JT — interesting point about Dear grandma’s dying wishes. When do you think the BM will decide that it’s acceptable to start using it as a cudgel? I feel like, at the moment, there’s a general wall of silence around the mere mention of the possibility that she’s old and may pass literally any day. I mean, it’s obviously implied in all the succession stories, but at what point do you think the media will really commit to using it as emotional blackmail against H&M?

        My bets are after H&M unveil some stunning new project that they’ve been working on for the past year which inevitably “blindsides” the RF and happens to coincide with some obscure event Charles/William/Kate thought would bring significant (presumably positive) press.

      • JT says:

        I think it will be soon enough. They were already guilting Harry about Prince Philip before he had even died and remember all of the “Philip’s last Christmas” stories. The BM is getting increasingly desperate for access to the Sussexes and they have no problem projecting their wishes on to queen. It’s only a matter of time. They will for sure bring on the guilt trip if the Cambridges fuck up again. And they will fuck up.

      • LaraW” says:

        @JT — love that last sentence. In these times of great uncertainty, I take immense comfort in the fact that Kate and William can be relied upon to f-ck up. :)

  10. mariahlee says:

    They’ve been scraping the barrel on H&M stories to use as distractions for their bad PR lately. I love that.

    Meghan should have no expectation at all for returning to support the institution. It bothers me that despite her testimony that they treated her horribly, and allll the evidence that’s emerged to support her claims, people still downplay why she might despise them.

  11. GuestWho says:

    I’m sure lots of you saw the ridiculous headline in “sheknows” (or whatever the hell it is) saying the RF plan on forgiving M&H by June of next year. Nice to put a timeline on their pretend forgiveness (as if M&H need to BE forgiven). Ridiculous flex for a “feminist” blog.

    I don’t think they’ll travel with the children. I suspect, if they do attend, that Archie and Poppy (I really like that name!) will be safe at home with grandma Doria.

    • taris says:

      yep, the she knows headline was one of the most absurd headlines i’ve ever seen regarding royal news, and that’s saying a lot.

      that said, im sure the queen will invite the sussexes, and they’ll go if she asked them personally – but the babies should probably stay home, to be honest.

    • MerlinsMom1018 says:

      Poppy is a cool name! I also like Piper.

    • equality says:

      Why not Christmas or Easter as a forgiveness timeline? Peace on earth and the resurrection to remind them of the importance of Christian principles. They are supposed to be defenders of the Faith.

  12. Solidgolddancer says:

    A lot can happen in a year but I don’t see H+M participating in these kinds of events with The Firm after their behavior and the behavior of the UK Media. Send a video to the Queen and be done with it…

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Solidgoldddancer, I agree. Afterall, they are no longer working royals, so I can’t see that they would be welcome at any of the formal events. And, if they are welcome, because the brf want the PR and it allows the RR’s to get more pics and make up more stories then they shouldn’t agree to be a part of that. I think if they want to go for TQ then that’s who they should spend some time with. Then do private things. I don’t know if I was Meghan if I would want to be in the UK, but that’s her decision. I hope they leave the children here. Frankly, that in itself is a message–no member of the brf will be able to see their children’s skin up close and personal. That’s a statement all of its own.

      “Grand Dance of Hair-Free” I laughed so hard when I read this. Thanks for the laugh! I wish they would let Kaiser write all of the programs for these events. IMO it would make them a lot more fun.

    • Lady D says:

      @Solidgolddancer, I read your name and it threw me right back to the mid-70′s and me and my brother on a Saturday afternoon, practicing dance moves. That was a fun little memory, thank you.

  13. Liz version 700 says:

    Haha all these headlines started after yesterday’s Guardian bomb. One headline said we will forgive H&M in 2022. You know marking it on the calendar lol. They are once again using the Sussexes to blunt their horrible headlines

    • Seaflower says:

      Exactly what I was going to post. “Us, racist? That Guardian story is wrong, look we’ll even invite Harry and whats-her-face to show we’re not racist. Look we allowed a colored person in our family, those stories are wrong.”

      This is the mad scramble to prove they aren’t racist after the Guardian articles.

      • JT says:

        It has a very “I have a black friend vibe” to me. So now Harry AND Meghan are invited? Archie too? And Lil’ Montecito? You don’t say? They are so shameless.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        Exactly…meanwhile they will be holding paint cards up to Archie and Baby Not Phillipa to see how tan they are! 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

  14. Carmen-JamRock says:

    “Theres many a slip between the cup and the lip.”

  15. Eurydice says:

    I guess the BM have given up on Diana’s statue.

    • Cecilia says:

      I feel like they know harry isn’t coming😂. And i want baby girl to be born on the july 1st so bad! But she will probably get here this month

      • Carolyn Hester says:

        I’m hoping for July 4; you just know the BM will act like it was deliberately Meghan’s decision for their baby to be born on Independence Day as a SLAP IN THE FACE TO THE ROYAL FAMILY.

      • Cecilia says:

        @Carolyn hester: i wouldn’t mind july 4th but on july 1st (diana’s birthday) all the royal households and the british media will have a full blown meltdown. Not to mention the derangers.

      • February-Pisces says:

        If she gave birth on what would have been Diana’s 60th, the haters will say that Meghan planned this all along, lol.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        and what a wonderful plan it would be!

      • TeamAwesome says:

        If she gave birth on Diana’s birthday it would just become conspiracy theory fodder. How fame hungry Me-gain was at it again.

  16. Becks1 says:

    Of course they’re invited and of course the press hopes they attend – its going to be the only thing that will create significant international interest in the event. The press can write stories for the next year and a half about it – a year of will the Sussexes attend, will they bring Archie and Poppy, etc – and then 6 months at least of dissecting every single moment. Body language experts are going to have a field day.

    • JT says:

      The RF need the international coverage badly and they can’t get it without H&M. I mean, I’m sure they would get some, but it wouldn’t be as much if the Sussexes weren’t there. People only cared about Philip’s funeral because Harry was attending and Meghan wasn’t. The commonwealth counter programming disappeared into the night after Oprah and even Meg stepping out on Louis’ birthday completely overshadowed. So much of the royals’ supposed appeal is how the represent the UK to the world, but what if nobody cares?

    • Lucy says:

      I just love how this blog has settled on Poppy for her name 😁. If she’s named anything else, I’m going to be shook 😂

      • Lorelei says:

        @Lucy: same! I am all in for Poppy.

        It must make Elegant Bill so enraged that everyone, literally everyone, knows that in order for this days-long event to get significant international press coverage, the Sussexes will have to be there. Or else no one will care or even be aware that it’s happening, outside of the UK and people like us who follow this stuff.

        @JT I think even more people worldwide would have watched Philip’s funeral either way (although the fact that Harry was there definitely increased viewership) just because royal funerals are so full of the “pomp” everyone loves, and most people at least knew who Philip was.
        But this jubilee? Absolutely no one outside of the palace will care.

      • RedWeatherTiger says:

        I love the name Poppy, too.

        British Media: Harty and Meghan, owner of a 14.5 million dollar house with 43 bathrooms, named their biracial child after a DRUG FLOWER! Do you know how many people have died from opium and heroin? THEY SHOULD LOSE THEIR TITLES!

  17. Izzy says:

    Again with the “Archie barely knows his Keenbridge cousins.” When they were literally standing right next to Archie at a polo match, their Keen mother kept them away from him and Meghan, so whose fault is it really that the kids are strangers?

    • Jegede says:


      Meghan & Archie looked so alone in those pics.😟😟😟

      You would NEVER have believed they were ‘family’.

    • Eurydice says:

      Well, Meghan was holding her baby the WRONG WAY! A Keen Mother can’t support that.

    • February-Pisces says:

      Louis proved he was the most mature member of the keen household that day.

    • Tessa says:

      Any Aunt would have rushed over with her children to play with the baby and cuddle him. Kate is so cold and I fear for those children if they get “indoctrinated” about Harry and Meghan.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Tessa, I think this was the only time the C’s kids and Archie had ever met. I don’t think anyone is missing a child that no one made any attempt to be around. This may not be the case with Eugenia.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Tessa Kate always makes a fuss and coos all over RANDOM BABIES IN CROWDS but clearly couldn’t have cared less about her own nephew. While she knew she was being photographed! She didn’t even pretend. So every time they bring up the “Archie doesn’t know his cousins!” bs, I think of those photos. Louis was adorable that day.

  18. VS says:

    I assume this type of events is part of “duty” and “service” to the uk? LOL

  19. Jay says:

    Hmm… I’m more interested in whether or not the Commonwealth Capitals are going to feel like spending money to host lavish celebrations of a racist, colonial institution. As a Canadian, I will be requesting that we use that money for… literally anything else. Like, let’s send the Queen a tasteful card and help the many, many people who are hurting instead, hmm?

    • Seaflower says:

      For us Down Under, I suspect it will depend on who is Prime Minister. If its Scumo, we’ll be doing it.

      • Carrie says:

        Don’t want my tax $$ being spent on anything like that. What a nerve. Australia needs to become republic, cut the apron strings already.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “Scumo”, What a name!

      • Seaflower says:

        @baytampabay his latest nickname is Scovid because hes totally botched the vaccine roll out and the quarantine process which are both federal responsibility. And don’t get me started on how hes handled the rape allegations against members of his party and their aides.

    • lainier says:

      As a fellow Canadian, I hope so too. Let’s just keep the card under 10 bucks.

      • Jay says:

        @Lainier, maybe an e-card with a Timmies “Buy one, get the next one free” code for a (small) ice cap (expires at the end of the year).

      • LainieR says:

        Perfect. I’ll let JT know what we’d like to send. He can chip in some flowers if he wants.

    • Nic919 says:

      If we still need to pretend that the Queen matters to Canadians (she does not) then I look forward to her apology on behalf of the Crown regarding the genocidal treatment of indigenous peoples since its days as a colony. She also needs to send some money over to compensate the victims who remain today.

      • Gail says:

        YES! @Nic919
        They need to stand tall & take responsibility towards the genocidal treatment of indigenous peoples.
        I’m done w/us sending them tax dollars. Meanwhile, communities in Canada STILL DON’T HAVE SAFE WATER.
        Priorities, please.
        So yeah, dear Queen, send money.
        (tho’ I won’t hold my breath)…

    • teecee says:

      Sounds like it’s just going to be big lights turned on at a specific moment in each of those cities. I wonder if it will just be at the British Embassies at each of those locations.

    • Oh-Dear says:

      we can definitely use that money to provide clean water to the First Nations who have been under 10 years + of boil water advisories or to help locate more childrens’ remains on former Residential School property. I have a friend who are up 40 minutes away from Saskatoon (largest city in Saskatchewan with a pop of 275 000) and at 25 years old had never had clean water in her home.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Oh-Dear, would it be possible using social media to inundate the government about how they’re NOT spending money? Specifically ask how much is being sent to the UK because TQ is the head of state. Give them suggestions how that money could be better used. I really think this would be a great use of social media.

      • Lady D says:

        Fifty bucks says we gift the Queen with Canadian diamonds for her jubilee.

  20. Jais says:

    “Of course they’re invited it’s a family event!”
    The exclamation point kills me. This whole sentence…of course! Because it’s a family event! Like we’re not stupid. This family has been cited as treating Harry and Meghan like sh*t but yeah! okay! sure!

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      That is a very odd statement from said insider and then to note that Harry & William both wore their Jubilee Medals (which you can probably buy at a royal shop, ebay or Party Pieces) at the funeral as proof of famliness.

      Instead of “multiple insiders” talking about H & M not being ‘iced out’ at an event a year from now-it would be better if the “multiple insiders” said the BRF sees Lady C C and her current petition as a complete disgrace.

      • Jais says:

        Yeah I’m curious about the insider. Is this from
        BP? Or made up? Honestly can’t tell sometimes what is a true insider quote v what is just a RR quote.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @Jais, made up is an excellent possibility. Since the editor-in-chief of the New York Post, Keith Poole, and the columnist of this story, Sara Nathan, both were with The Sun & DM in their careers-they probably consider themselves insiders.

    • Lizzie says:

      The same family who decided en masse to not acknowledge the Sussex 3rd anniversary?

    • Jay says:

      “Of course they’re invited, it’s a family event!”

      The syntax alone and an exclamation point? It doesn’t read like any royal courtier we’ve heard quoted. Plus, they would be more likely to discuss the queen in this instance, rather than ties to the family or a “family event”.

      Like: the queen graciously extended an invitation, will H and M do the dutiful thing and pay their respects to this great institution, or will they turn their backs on this frail, beloved, widow as she receives the deserved praise of her glorious empire.

  21. lanne says:

    This is all about the media. They are in desperate need to connect the Sussexes to the royal family in order to justify writing about them and being in their business. This jubilee (which strikes me as being in really poor taste while the UK is mired in Brexit misery) shows that the royal family has no idea how to adapt to change. They really think that a big expensive pageant will solve their problems. Once again, they play another game of brinksmanship with no idea of the possible consequences of losing. So much depends, not on a red wagon slick with rain water next to white chickens, but on the frail shoulders of a 96 year old woman. What happens if the Queen is not capable of attending such an event, due to death or infirmary? What happens if Meghan says hell no, she’s not setting foot on that island, nor will they bring their children? What if the public doesn’t show any enthusiasm for such a pageant, or even decides to protest against the surely monstrous cost?

    • Jais says:

      Well done use of that poem line. I think I just actually understood the poem better in the way you did that. So much depends indeed.

    • Cecilia says:

      @lanne I suspect the british public won’t be too upset simply because the majority loves the queen. As for your question “what will they do if meghan says hell no”. Well, that would be the story. That meghan refuses to come. Whether the sussexes attend or not, the whole event will be about them. Not the queen.

      • SarahCS says:

        We also love any reason for a party. Especially after the misery of the last few years, it will be street parties everywhere – this is already being discussed on our street whatsapp group. The jubilee is just an excuse and we’re hoping the weather will be as amazing as for the last one we had in 2019 (which didn’t mark anything in particular, we just like parties).

      • Lorelei says:

        @Cecilia this is what sort of boggles my mind about the constant coverage of the Sussexes by the BM. They couch all of their criticisms behind “the Queen would be disappointed” or how it would be “disrespecting the Queen” — but what they end up actually doing is making the Queen a bit player in her own story.

        They make the main story about the Sussexes and the Queen is used as a proxy for whatever insults *they* want to hurl. So if they want to talk about disrespecting the Queen, they should all look in the damn mirror.

        If all of the Jubilee stories end up focusing on the Sussexes (just like most of the stories about Philip’s funeral ended up being about Harry, and Philip himself kind of got lost in the whole thing), it’s the fault of the editors deciding what angle they want to push. And then people who read these asinine stories blame the Sussexes…it’s like, could they maybe show a shred of critical thinking? Instead of bitching about Harry and Meghan, write letters to the editors asking why the Queen herself wasn’t the focus of the stories/all over the front pages, etc. when the Jubilee is supposed to be about her and her accomplishments.

        Personally I think that they enjoy browbeating the Sussexes more than they care about celebrating their beloved monarch. They PRETEND it’s all about Liz, but really, they’re there for all of the Sussex bashing.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “What happens if Meghan says hell no, she’s not setting foot on that island, nor will they bring their children? ”

      The Daily Fail will be in $eventh Heaven as it will give them two weeks of four stories a day with each story generating a 5k comments. I hate to say this but it seem$ like The Fail win$, revenue wi$e, whether Meghan comes for the jubilee or stays home.

      • MerlinsMom1018 says:

        If I were Meghan, I would demand a cut from the Fail and every other news out there for keeping them afloat and being their moneymaker.
        But I am EXTREMELY petty like that

    • Nina says:

      When has the RF ever thought about how their actions affect their subjects. They will have their jubilee celebrations and the peasants will love it. What’s this new fangled malarkey of taking the peasants’ feelings and needs into account. Don’t they know it’s the RF’s divine right to do as they please? Here’s looking at you Scotland.

      • teecee says:

        The RF is right about that, though. Even on this thread, there are Brits excusing this expense, saying “it’s just a party.” People are distracted by shiny things, which is how we got Trump and they got Brexit.

        I’m also wondering if Scotland will actually pull the trigger on the independence vote. It failed last time, what makes people think it will pass now? Seems like some* of them like grumbling about England but don’t want to do anything to oust the colonizers. And some of the ones who do want England out still want the queen, which beggars belief. She is the personification of the English parasites. Stockholm Syndrome.

        *Some, not all.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “And some of the ones who do want England out still want the queen,”

        I think that was the plan if the last referendum received a majority.

        QEII would become the Queen of England, Wales and Northern Ireland AND the Queen of Scotland.

        This is the same scenario or situation of George III through William IV being King of the United Kingdom and King of Hanover.

  22. Snuffles says:

    I think Harry will be there no matter what, but Meghan is a huge question mark. And I doubt those kids will touch UK soil until they are 18.

    • Truthiness says:

      I think Meghan needs a taster for her food if she goes. Or just share Harry’s plate with protein bars in her purse.

  23. aquarius64 says:

    The Jubilee is next year. I can’t imagine certain members of the BRF don’t want the Sussex’s back, but I think the crisis managers told the Windsors the optics will be bad if all the Sussexes weren’t there. Harry will not come if Meghan is off the guest list and if his children are not welcomed. The BRF will have to accept Harry, Meghan, Archie and Baby Monteceito are a package deal.

    • Ginger says:

      Agreed. Harry isn’t going to go without Meghan.

    • Jegede says:

      The only thing is once she came home, Meghan has spoken honestly how the racism of the firm affected her mental health and led her to fear for her children’s lives.

      That has generated much conversation and necessary debate, especially in Black America, about dealing within white spaces.

      It’s gonna look askew, if only a year later, Meghan’s suddenly happy to kiki with the same institution – waving on a balcony no less!!🤐🤐 – that have happily besmirched and abused her.

      • L84Tea says:

        Not to mention, the BM wants her there so they can write hateful articles about her. There would be no “Look how radiant and healthy Meghan looks! California agrees with her!” headlines. It’s going to be “Meghan shames the Queen!” “Kate looks so much more regal than Meghan’s hippie style”, “Meghan begs for forgiveness” and all that other garbage. Why show up just to be abused and have them profit from it? Screw them. I hope she and Harry both stay home.

      • ABritGuest says:

        I hear that and I would hate to be in Meghan’s shoes on this as institution is compromised of Harry’s actual relatives so from that perspective she’s no different to many who have prejudiced in-laws & have to smile around them.

        It was reported that Meghan would have attended Philip’s funeral if able to fly. they made a point about being on good terms with the queen and distinguishing between I guess her & the institution on Oprah. So there seems to be little chance they will never be seen around his relatives again at least whilst the queen is alive.

        If they attend official events the firm & press will use it as an excuse to brush their claims on Oprah etc under the carpet mainly to restore the firm’s rep internationally. But
        if the palace puts out they were invited and they stay away Meghan will get the blame for keeping Harry away from his family, breaking the widowed queens heart after her interview already finished off Philip etc so it’s a lose lose situation really.

        In the same boat I would be demanding a public acknowledgment & apology for the neglect, discrimination & smears, name publicly cleared re bullying claims, no more press smears and commitment to making the royal household more inclusive before attending any public royal family events. But the firm doesn’t have a history of apologising so I would only attend any private events for the queen & children would be nowhere near.

        But I respect it’s difficult terrain and how many POC have to keep it pushing with prejudiced relatives, in-laws or employers. Whilst not quite the same situation as that was about peaceful transition, I also think of Michelle Obama describing how her and Barack had to keep professional during the Trump inauguration despite his racist & dangerous birther campaign.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Jegede and @L84TEA I’m with you both 100%. They can’t let their fear of what the trash tabloids will say dictate their behavior because they will trash the Sussexes no matter what they do. Meghan could cure cancer and they’d ask what took her so long.

        And I think that Harry and Meghan have probably made peace with this fact by now as well; I hope that nothing they ever do or don’t do is because of what the ensuing headlines might be, because we already know that they’ll be all about guilt-tripping Harry for “disappointing his elderly, widowed grandma” when it was *that same Grandma* who allowed the smear campaign against him and his wife (and then their newborn baby) to go on unabated for years. He can FaceTime with her, privately show her pics of the kids, and send her a congratulatory card or whatever.

        I think what’s much more important to consider how this will look to many *other* people worldwide, not the BRF or the BM. If the Sussexes do actually show up, with smiles on their faces, it will look terrible for a multitude of different reasons, and more importantly imo, as you said, it will undermine so much of the (much deserved) damage they’ve done to the institution since they’ve left merely by telling the truth.

        Has there been any public apology to both Harry AND Meghan? Has there been any follow-up on the much-hyped “Diversity Czar?” Or a public statement on how their “investigation” into the BS “bullying claims” made against Meghan showed that there was no credence to them at all? Has the Queen made it her business to make sure that no employee in any one of the courts leaks a single thing to the members of the ROTA? Has she even forced Angela freaking Kelly to publicly back Meghan up about the crying incident with Kate? NOTHING has changed since they left, so why go back??

    • Lizzie says:

      I think there will need to be personal apology and invitation phone calls to Meghan . Publicly they will need to role out the red carpet for the Sussex, no dodgy rule having them stand at the back of the balcony.

  24. Me says:

    I can’t imagine they would go back to that place with their children —for what, another dose of malevolent curiosity? “Look we’re not racist, we can actually manage a minimum of polite interaction in public with that mixed race American. Congratulate us on how wonderful we are.” Ugh.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Snort exactly. We stood next to a bi racial American!!! Don’t call us racist. Now could someone with dark skin bring me a beverage gag these people and their casual bigotry make me grit my teeth.

  25. Katy says:

    @ Jay, great point!

    The same commonwealth nations whose ‘colored’ ‘foreign’ ‘ immigrants’ were not allowed to work in office jobs with the firm according to the recent guardian piece should now turn around and honor a racist Queen? Yea I don’t think so. Absurd!

    The commonwealth should disband immediately it’s the equivalent of saying look I have a black friend for the RF and a dressed up form of colonialism. There’s no benefit at all for the countries.

    • Nina says:

      I can speak for us in South Africa. We couldn’t be arsed to celebrate that nonsense. But we will come out in droves for Harry and Meghan. With Meghan being the drawcard because she is American not because she’s a Duchess. South Africans love them some American. Royal Family? Meh

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “The same commonwealth nations whose ‘colored’ ‘foreign’ ‘ immigrants’ were not allowed to work in office jobs with the firm according to the recent guardian piece”

      You can forget about what happened 50 years ago and look back no further than Theresa May and the Windrush scandal which occurred on QEII’s watch. It did not have to be like this as Queen Victoria is a good example of what a constitutional sovereign can due with respect to race and people of the Empire/Commonwealth.

  26. Ginger says:

    I know the RF are desperate for Harry and Meghan to come to this event to show that they are “very much not a racist family” . With everything Harry has said about his family and how London is a trigger for him, I doubt he will go. And i don’t see him going without Meghan. It’s still a year away and a lot can happen before then. Harry still hasn’t said if he is going to the statue unveiling.

    • Cecilia says:

      Harry isn’t going to that statue unveiling but i think chances are quite high that they are going to be present at the jubilee.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Other than QEII and Charles, I doubt any members of the BRF give two hoots if the Sussexes attend. The only people who really care, other than QEII and Charles, are the Royal Rat Reporters and British Media led by The Daily Fail.

  27. Cg2495 says:

    Hope they decide not to go. They don’t need that s*hit. Better to stay safe back home and enjoy their kids and work. F the royal family and those racist bastards.

  28. Harper says:

    Oh, sure. Meghan and Archie and Princess Montecito will be there just as soon as the Palace issues a very public apology for that bullying investigation against her. Which means, no, Meghan and the little Mountbatten Windsors won’t be there.

  29. Merricat says:

    Not to put too fine a point on it, but there’s a fair chance the Jubilee won’t happen.
    But of course, if you want the attention of the world to focus on your event, best invite the Sussexes.

  30. Amy Bee says:

    All the family utterances so far have been Harry is welcome anytime but not Meghan. So as long as that situation remains I don’t think they will be attending this event.

  31. Ania says:

    I hope they keep their children away from UK. I Have a relative (my father-in-law second wife) who makes it clear my daughter is not her family and constatly comments her behavior (normal, toddler behavior, nothing extreme and generally very ok). I hate bringing her here to their house and we always sleep in a hotel when we visit.

    • MerlinsMom1018 says:

      That really grinds my gears. I’m sorry you have to go through that.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Ania, seriously? I can’t understand people who don’t love kids. What’s not to love? So, their behavior mimics their AGE, what’s wrong with that? I’m sorry that she has someone like that in her life, but I’m glad that you limit her exposure to the step-MIL. I hope your father-in-law in some small way is able to make that a little better by loving the bjeebus out of her.

      • Ania says:

        Thank you guys, at this point it is what it is. She’s the same with my sister-in-law kids. It’s her issue, not ours. We are used to it but still cannot understand how difficult it is to be welcoming 2-3 times a year and manage a pleasant conversation. We do it despite her behavior. But my FILs wife is very jealous of my husband’s mom (they are in their 60ties!) and is probably the root cause of all this resentment towards our families and kids. Kiddies are getting crazy amounts od love from other grandparents though.

        That’s why I don’t see little Sussexes coming to UK. H&M may make a decision to go, knowing that they will be smeared but to see tabloids writing shit about their babies? I don’t think so.

  32. KinChicago says:

    Meanwhile any persons of color will still be banned by the Queen.
    PedoAndrew will wear a uniform, Michael a blackface brooch, all declare themselves not racist at all and the suspiciously not offended press will be like “oh business as usual… did you know Sussexes buy their own toothpaste? The horror, the insolence- Scandal!”

  33. ABritGuest says:

    This is the new Diana statute unveiling as someone said above & the endless speculation will be even worse. They seem on good terms with the queen & will likely be in Europe for Invictus around that time so timing could fit.

    Like Philip’s funeral, Harry (and Meghan’s) attendance at jubilee events will be a draw for international media so assuming there’s truth to this- not surprised if palace sources are putting it out there they are invited. Their presence or absence will be much reported on in any event. I wouldnt want first visit back to U.K. to be a high profile event like the jubilee though.

    I don’t think it’s realistic they will never return to the U.K. given still have a home, family they are on good terms with, friends, patronage’s & travalyst is still a U.K. entity I believe. There’s an article out that Meghan is still keeping up with the Hubb community kitchen so I can see them making discrete visits to the U.K. in the future.

    annoyed for these events for Commonwealth member countries in light of things like Windrush (I wonder if the royals did any listening & learning visits to charities helping those impacted?) & now this report about the ban on minorities and foreigners except as domestic servants & then exempting themselves from equalities legislation til today. Happy to be celebrated by POC & take money from them but not to have them work in royal household 😡. Guardian had a good piece on this

  34. Nina says:

    She is still his grandmother. Both Harry and Meghan have consistently expressed kind feelings for her and his grandpa. Most people are more forgiving of their grandparents than they are of their parents. Only time will tell what they will do.

  35. Lala11_7 says:

    H&M should send them the infamous Future meme of…

    “I’m good Luv…Enjoy”! 🤣😡😅😁😝

  36. Sofia says:

    As the article itself says, a lot can happen in a year. Both Harry and Meghan seem to be on good terms with the Queen so I can see them coming for her and her only. I can also see them being there for one public event and that’s it.

    But if they don’t come then it’s perfectly understandable why.

  37. Catherine says:

    They are going to be in Europe next year for Invictus. I could see them spending extended time and staying for the jubilee/trooping events out of respect for the Queen. But I think it all depends on how BRF/BM treats them over the next year. If they continue to campaign against them it will be incredible difficult to participate in the public events. I for one hope they never include their children in any of it. I don’t want them to bring the kids to that balcony to wave or to summer in balmoral or Christmas at Sandringham. I don’t want that family to have any access to those children. Ever. The stories that the palace sources would make up would be never ending.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      I could not agree more. Those children need to be protected from the ugliness that almost stole their mother from them.

    • Lady D says:

      I wonder if Charles will insist on another family photo with both sons and their families? That won’t be tense at all. At the least, they will have a more recent pic to sell the papers.

  38. Trix says:

    So let me get this straight. H&M offered to be half in and half out. RF said no. H&M still expected at major royal events that are not actual real family events but royal occasions. Because “faaaaaaaammiiiillllllliiiiiieeeeee.”

    Yeah, no.

  39. MsIam says:

    I hope they don’t go either. If the Sussexes will be in The Netherlands in April 2022 for the Invictus Games then they could fly into the UK and congratulate the queen privately on the way back home. No need to come back for that circus and the out of control media.

  40. TheOriginalMia says:

    They’ll go if the Queen asks them to be there. But they won’t expose their children to any public events, ie the balcony. They won’t show up as working royals because they aren’t and will never be again. So, a few private events, but not much else. Their return will definitely be on their terms, not the BM.

  41. Nyro says:

    Exactly. This Jubilee nonsense is the new “one year review”.

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      I like to think of it as Harry & Meghan reviewing THEM after one year.

      • Lorelei says:

        @AGreatReckoning and they’ll definitely fail

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        Agree. It’s been awhile since I’ve seen a report card. Not sure what current grading systems are…I’m predicting an F-. The Firm/BRF will never do what needs to be done to make things right. Sincere apologies from the BRF would be an excellent start in modernizing the monarchy.

  42. teecee says:

    If Meghan goes to this thing, people are going to call her a hypocrite. And it will give royal reporters an “out” on all of the real, important accusations of racism against both the royal family and its machinery. Harry can get away with it, spinning it as “family”, but not Meghan. And I don’t think she should go, because they are going to treat her like dirt at every opportunity.

    I don’t think he should go, either, but I have far less sympathy than most for maintaining ties with racists just because they’re blood relatives.

    • Nyro says:

      There’s not a single benefit to them going. It would be a huge blow to their brand. You can’t reveal what they revealed and then go smile and celebrate the same institution/people without ending up with a serious credibility problem. I really don’t think they’ll be there without a public apology.

    • Brielle says:

      Totally agree Teecee…his family hates her and are super racist…Personally I never understood why Meghan married in that family( root of white supremacy)- I know that she is in love with Harry but…..,and after everything she endured ( smears after smears and suicidal ideations…WTF) and she was willing to stay until Harry said enough like…

    • Lorelei says:

      @TeeCee I could not agree more. With every single thing you said. As @Nyro said, there are no benefits to them going, and imo it could undo so much of the progress they’ve made since leaving.

      I don’t think *anyone* needs to attend a particular event to “prove” they love someone. The Queen knows Harry loves her and whether or not he’s a jubilee won’t change that. In fact my favorite Aunt’s 75th birthday party is tomorrow, and for various reasons I’m unable to go, but that doesn’t mean I love her any less and she knows it. I find the whole argument ridiculous (they said the same sh!t about the statue unveiling; as if it means Harry loves his mother less if he’s not there. Give me a break!).

  43. bitchyarchitect says:

    i think covid variants will still be around in 2022. I don’t think it will be safe to travel with an unvaccinated infant.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Excellent point!

      I don’t think it will be safe to travel with an unvaccinated infant or unvaccinated toddler.

    • lucylee says:

      Meghan will be pregnant with the “OOPs we slipped up baby” and will not be traveling.

  44. Nina says:

    If Meghan decides to go, I cant wait to see her wardrobe for the different events. Rubbing my hands in glee. Then one week later see Keen role out her “new look” wink, wink.

    • MerlinsMom1018 says:

      But with BUTTONS!!!! many many buttons!! ALL OF THE BUTTONS!!!!

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        MerlinsMom1018, I’m surprised that none of the haberdasheries haven’t designed and made a hat out of buttons for K. Matching buttons of course.

    • Lorelei says:

      @Nina I don’t think they should go, but if they do, I can’t wait to see Meghan kick Kate’s ass, fashion-wise, at every single event. You’ve given me something to look forward to!

  45. Lizzie says:

    I guess the crisis mgrs are looking at the optics. They better hop on the uniform situation for Harry before the queen dies, it will look horrible to have Edward in military uniform but not Harry.

  46. betsyh says:

    After being suicidal, she may some PTSD that would make the idea of returning to that family extremely stressful.

    • MsIam says:

      Wasn’t there a story put out that Meghan was having panic attacks just being in London? It would take a truck load of ass kissing for me to want to stay in London/Windsor for four days around that bunch. If I were Meghan I would stay home!

  47. SusanRagain says:

    Here is my suggestion:

    It’s a big celebration and TQ aint getting any younger.
    Lots of everyday people, get together for big family reunions, even tho we can’t stand each other.
    I’ve done it. My ex-MIL was a b*tch to me from day one.
    I plastered a smile on my face, and kept the peace. Why? Because I have good manners, you are Welcome. lol

    Wouldn’t The Firm and the RR have a fit if H&M and their kids came to all the public stuff, smiled, showed off how happy they are, played nice and took family pictures?
    I think everybody in BRF should screw the press by killing them and their constant sh*t stirring.
    Happy Families everyone, just 1-2 days get all the little kids together..picture time.

    I was estranged from 2 siblings for over 20 years. I reached out. I made contact repeatedly and worked to get the 4 of us speaking again. Within 1 year, 2 passed away.

    Peace, even at a long distance is sometimes worth it.

    • Haylie says:

      No disrespect, but did your family launch a nationwide media campaign to attack you and drive you out of the country? Did they invite your tormentors over for holiday luncheons? Did they work with the media to try and derail your court case? Did they deny you access to a hospital stay when you were having suicidal thoughts? Did they yank your security detail and leak your location to the tabloids?

      Nobody owes silent smiles because of manners and keeping the peace.

    • Nina says:

      No. Just No. Why are women expected to always play nice. It’s not Meghan’s job to play nice and make them feel comfortable. They chose war so let’s ride baby. BAWHAHAHAAA They should realize that they may not like her but they will respect her.

      • Hannah says:

        I agree Nina. Meghan’s mental health and her peace are more important than standing in the background ignored at some event just so her tormentors can save face. Meghan’s mental health takes precedence. It is completely okay to cut ties with toxic family members (ESPECIALLY racists). Peace can mean cutting off toxic people. Meghan is under no obligation to pretend everything is fine. It is her decision.

      • Brielle says:

        It’s like Meghan explaining Rude and Racism again…

    • Lorelei says:

      @Susan: I’m glad that strategy worked for you personally, but every family is different, and imo it’s outrageous to suggest that Harry and Meghan should be expected to show up at a celebration for their TORMENTORS.

      And why on earth should they provide photos of their children that will make the ROTA (more tormentors!) a metric sh!t-ton of £££?

      I see what you’re saying and again, it’s good that it worked out for *you*, but by no means should that apply to everyone.

      Do you think Meghan should bring her family to Thomas Markle’s next birthday party as well, because “family?”

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      @SusanRagain, sometimes pretending benefits no one-especially the ones being bullied. I know. Outside of being royal(and wealthy) and having racism involved-the time spent pretending hurt. It was like wrestling with a pig, you get dirty and they have fun. My husband made the decision to call things out and we were the bad guys for about 10 years. Then the narcissitic sibling that caused the problems started screwing over the other family members because we were not there to f&ck with-we opted out of everything that involved them. We took our hits and now no one is speaking to the sibling that caused the problems(almost 10 years now). The night my husband called things out he said he felt like a ton of bricks were off his shoulders. He felt free from the shackles of pretending. He has zero regrets and it’s been decades since he’s communicated with that particular sibling. The sibling even tried the passive-aggressive back-handed apology route. The sibling’s children no longer want anything to do with them. Peace, at a very long distance with no communication with troublesome people, is a wonderful thing. If going to London is triggering for Harry-it’s probably worse for Meghan. Screw the idea of family photos until the BRF understands what family means over being a Firm. The BRF/BM word salads don’t work.

  48. Marivic says:

    The Queen invites Meghan and Harry for fear of the international backlash it may cause if she decided not to invite them. But she only invites them grudgingly.

    • Curious says:

      you right. its just a public invitation. the thing is she will be a very busy woman. would she even have time to see Harry/Meghan?. she is 95 and will get tired easy . so unless Harry can meet the Queen i don’t see the point in them coming. if Harry /Meghan have no other plans around that date ,they can come a a day or 2 earlier and greet the queen privately, then leave . besides his cousin , the rest of the family will just gave them the stink eye.

  49. Amelie says:

    Huh I wonder who approved this story? Typically it’s all how Harry and Meghan are attention-seeking and constantly criticizing the family and persona non grata. Now they are to be welcomed with open arms for the jubilee next year and omg they’re family of course they’re invited? Just wondering if this story is specifically to pressure the Sussexes into making plans to come next year and bring the kids or maybe it’s Charles putting out feelers to meet his new grandchild? What a confusing news story.

    • Nyro says:

      They need them there. There are local news affiliates in the U.S. who never cover royal anything yet they were talking about that Guardian article. Their brand is officially “racism” now and they need the Sussexes, mainly Meghan, to publicly absolve them of that. That’s why the narrative has suddenly changed.

  50. Nyro says:

    They need Harry and Meghan more than ever to show up and happily participate in the Jubilee events. This report about them not hiring POC is making the rounds and there’s a lot of “see, Meghan was right” sentiment all over social media. It benefits HM nothing to show up there without an apology. It would actually hurt their brand. It benefits only the royal family. They need to hold tight just like they do with the titles. You want the titles? Then take them. You want us there with you for the Jubilee? Own up to what you did and apologize.

  51. Jen says:

    The timing of this announcement is suspect. This comes out right after the Guardian story.

  52. Jaded says:

    My guess is Harry and Meghan will show up sans kiddies, do little or no public events, not speak on camera, and Meghan will be her usual charming, gracious self. They’ll do a stealth arrival and departure and stay a minimum amount of time. William will do his best jaw-clenching, teeth gnashing, fist-clutching version of a toddler’s hissy fit, and Kate will do her best resting bitch face. The BM will shower them with page after page of gooey praise and rip the Sussexes apart despite having not a shred of information on them. Uncle Snorty will fulminate to the press about Kate being the saviour of the British Empire and how Meghan and Harry should be tossed into the Tower to rot. All in all a happy family gathering.

    • Nyro says:

      They shouldn’t go without a public apology. They’ll get nothing out of it but abuse from the family, the British media, and end up undermining their own brand.

  53. Athena says:

    Harry can go and attend some of the events but Meghan and the children should not go. I have seem too many pictures were the member of that family ignores Meghan. There are pictures from Ascot were the blood princesses are making side eyes at Meghan but no one speaks to her. There’s Kate at the Polo match ignoring Meghan and Archie. This family had decided to open a bullying investigation on her. The Meghan made Kate cry, Meghan stole Eugenie thunder is still a story for these people. The micro aggression of Beatrice announcing her baby news on M&H’s anniversary, I can go on and on. Meghan has to stand her ground, show these people that she’s not putting up with their shit. No excuses should be offered, simply that only Harry is attending.
    I would be disappointed if she went to anything other than granny’s funeral (with kids back in CA)

    • Tessa says:

      Meghan should be there with Harry. Harry and Meghan should not be intimidated and HE should freeze out Kate and William not the other way around.

    • Nyro says:

      This. She should not go if she is the only one making the effort to put on a show of family togetherness while the Windsors ignore her or sneer at her. No way. That’s cruel and nobody should have to put up with that. She already dealt with that at Commonwealth Day 2020. At the 2017 inauguration, even the ill-mannered Trumps had enough sense to not act like complete heathens and behaved themselves with the Obamas. The royal family can’t even meet that standard when it comes to Meghan.

  54. Tessa says:

    I would not want to see Harry sitting across from his brother and Kate grinning away. Too nauseating Meghan needs to be there with Harry.

    • CC2 says:

      Yeah I agree. Harry and Meghan should present a united unit as much as possible. The funeral shows how much the Cambridges enjoy the three some.

  55. Roo says:

    Since they aren’t considered working royals anymore, would they even qualify for the “Elvita balcony” events and such? I am wondering what they would attend because wasn’t the BM all about disqualifying them from everything royal?

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Roo, this is what I think, too. Since Invictus is next Spring, I think H&M should drop by BP and wish TQ a happy bday in April. They are not working royals so their presence is not needed or required for the the formal stuff going on in June. That solves the problem of Harry perhaps wanting to be there for his Grandmother, but not being anywhere around the public formalities of the jubilee which the BM are salivating over.

  56. jferber says:

    A good sign: They didn’t mention the cost of the Montecito house, which they’ve reported religiously with every H and M story. Progress!

  57. bettyrose says:

    She is so stunning, but it really stands out in pictures surrounded by the RF. Diana was also a standout beauty among the RF, even though she was from the same inbred aristo stock. It seems that just exuding warmth and joy distinguishes you in this crowd. I think we used to comment on that about Harry even before Meghan came along, but definitely since.

  58. equality says:

    The ideal would be if they were so booked with Invictus and other things that they only have time to stop by for a private meeting with the Queen. Then the BM could whine forever about overshadowing and breaking the Queen’s heart.

  59. Amelia says:

    So Meghan has been giving our advanced copies of her upcoming book to friends and publishers and book critics for reviewing and I bet you anything she’d have gifted one to Kate for her to share with her kids because that’s who Meghan is. Not the vile picture the media and Middleton PR tries to paint of her

    • aquarius64 says:

      Smart idea for marketing. The BM are going to trash the book anyway; it already has.

  60. HeatherC says:

    I have no real opinion but I would kinda like them to go and stand on the balcony. Yes, absolutely the only reason they want her in public with them so they can say “look, we have a bi racial family member, we can’t possibly be racist!” to try and reverse the fact that their racism in private (family) and public (employees) is now so open. But if the Sussexes are on the balcony, it’s better than even odds they’ll want the biracial branch of the royal family standing close to Elizabeth and Charles. Kate might have to slouch her way over a couple of places. That would be so delightfully petty to see.

    What I really hope happens is this, as mentioned above. They come in, have private time with Elizabeth, hang out with Eugenie. Then when they’re back in California and no one knows, Eugenie posts a picture of her son and Miss Montecito playing in the garden (not a full front face picture of course). This picture comes when the BM swears they were never there and oh the queen this fake sob fake sob.

    But I am a far pettier person than Meghan by far.

    • Ania says:

      Oh I hope it happens! I like Eugenie more since she started giving us those little signs of support for Sussexes. I don’t blame her for not being more bold, not everyone is ready to be a rebel, but if Chuck cuts her off I can see she will side with H&M more openly because there will not be much to loose.

  61. Likeyoucare says:

    The BRF right now.
    Oh please do come H&M, we are sick of been called as racist.
    Oh and the commonwealth countries threatening granny, because we are racist.
    Even scotland hate us too.
    Please bring your black children so we can have pictures for the DM too or else they will bully william.
    Be a good sport.

  62. L4frimaire says:

    So the press is posting about these official events. However, the Sussexes have no official role so there is no need for them to be there in any official way. They could possibly be there at private events but what they do is no different than any other invited guest who is not part of the royal household. I assume a lot of dignitaries and others will be at these events, so the Sussexes, if they attend any of these, will be part of the mix. I don’t feel a ways about this like some people do because it’s a year from now, the royals are still being obnoxious and racist, and if the Sussexes have to show up for this root canal, just wishing them luck getting through it because those people will be acting the fool.

  63. gm says:

    Obviously they will be invited otherwise talk may be about Prince Andrew, alleged pedophile, or the lack of color at all the events. Whether they attend is a whole other question, or perhaps just Harry attends a couple of events? Who knows? I will say this about H & M, they surprise me, I never expected they would leave and then to openly call the BRF out, good for them, as I get older I now know it is one life, you live it your way.

  64. Izzy says:

    If Harry and Meghan must participate in this dog-and-pony show, I hope they go to the celebration in one of the Commonwealth countries instead of setting foot on that dusty island. Besides, who would William the Ragehearted get to chaperone?

    • Jaded says:

      I like that concept Izzy. I’d be delighted to see them celebrate in Canada — I live a short distance from where they stayed on Vancouver Island, and you can be sure there will be a great celebration in Victoria — we have a huge number of English ex-pats living here. Ottawa would be another great venue. Wouldn’t that make Truculent Bill even more engorged with….truculence.

      • Noor says:

        Great idea but would the Royal family allow it. It will shift the rabid tabloid attention and focus from Buckingham Palace to where ever Prince Harry and Meghan go. it will be like setting up an alternative royalty which the British Royal Family and its heirs fear most

  65. Noor says:

    Mostly likely they will be invited. But they won’t be given prominent seating and they will not be allowed to appear on the balcony.

    Whom I actually like to see “ice out”. To name a few ..

    1.Handwriting experts who character assassinate Meghan’s character and embiggen other Royals merely by looking at the way they write.
    2. Camilla Tominey and other tabloids reporters, hanger-on like Uncle Gary, Lady Colin and Piers who castigate Meghan and Prince Harry in the name of defending the Queen

    • True says:

      I don’t think they should go. But they really won’t go if treated like that. What is the point to return to the dog and pony show?

  66. Eleanor says:

    There are many of us in the U.K who recognise the royal family as racist.

  67. Nic919 says:

    It’s pretty disingenuous to say no one in the UK is calling them racist. Outside of people who are themselves racist and can’t recognize obvious racism, most reasonable people acknowledge that the BRF has been racist for a very long time.

  68. toni says:

    You obsessively defend English colonialsm and keep attacking the Scottish indipendence. What’s up with that