Duchess Kate is the keen ‘intermediary’ between the Sussexes & the Windsors

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We’re still waiting (waitying) to see if the Duchess of Cambridge will actually “launch” her “ambitious” and “hugely significant” Early Years update this week. Once we heard that news over the weekend, I genuinely thought we would get some new pie charts by Tuesday. But no. It looks like it’s going to take Kensington Palace a few more days/weeks/months to put together something for Kate to put her name on. In the meantime, did you even realize that Kate has her keen hands full with all of the peacemaking and linchpinning? You might even call her the Button Closure of the monarchy. This is felt keenly by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, who are exiled so far away in a dreadful little place called Montecito. Harry and Meghan are so out of the loop, the only way they can communicate is through Our Lady of Buttons.

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are keeping his family up-to-date on their newborn daughter, Lilibet. ET has learned that the couple, who welcomed baby Lili earlier this month, shared a photograph of baby Lili over text with family members shortly after her birth. The pic, ET has learned, was shared on the royal family’s What’s App group where extended family members often stay in touch. The Sussexes also share a 2-year-old son, Archie.

The news comes shortly after Lili’s aunt, Kate Middleton, expressed excitement over the newborn’s arrival. “I wish her all the very best. I can’t wait to meet her,” Kate, who’s married to Prince William, said. “We haven’t met her yet. I hope that will be soon.”

ET has learned that it’s been Kate who’s been serving as an “intermediary helping to smooth relationships between Harry and the royal family,” following Harry and Meghan’s bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey which aired in March. A source notes that Kate, with whom Harry has always been exceptionally close with, realizes the importance of maintaining William and Harry’s brotherly bond. The source also says that Kate is doing whatever is necessary to be a “peacemaker” between Harry and other hurt relatives, adding that Harry “texted with Kate after Lili’s birth.”

Royal expert Katie Nicholl previously told ET that the royals hope “that this little baby is going to be a rift healer.”

“This family division has really gone on for a long time now, well over a year,” Nicholl said. “It has been many, many months since [Prince] Charles and Queen [Elizabeth II] and the Cambridges have seen Archie in the flesh. We know that there has been some really quite deep problems between Harry and William, difficulties between Harry and his father and I think that it is everyone’s hope that this little baby will be a peace offering in many ways and that she will hope to bring this divided family back together.”

[From ET]

“It is everyone’s hope that this little baby will be a peace offering…” WTF. The way they continue to act like the future of the British monarchy is on Lilibet Diana’s baby shoulders is really frightening. Babies are not peace offerings. Babies are babies. And if Charles and William can’t stop being terrible long enough to meet their granddaughter and niece respectively, then there’s no hope for anyone. As for the idea that Harry and Meghan posted a photo of Lili in the family WhatsApp… interesting. That’s an interesting gambit by Harry & Meghan. It feels like they’re waiting to see if someone in the family leaks the photo to the press. As for the idea that Harry texted Kate… that’s a talking point coming out of Kensington Palace for some reason. I don’t know if it’s true, but I know Kate has been telling people that.

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Britain's Meghan, Duchess of Sussex (L) and Britain's Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex (C) react as they arrive to visit Canada House, in London on January 7, 2020, in thanks for the warm Canadian hospitality and support they received during their recent stay

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  1. Sofia says:

    Honestly if a picture was texted, this story would have been in the Mail/Times/Telegraph/Sun or something. Not an American media outlet. And details of the picture may very well have been leaked.

    Oh and I stopped reading when I saw Katie Nicholl. She knows nothing.

    • Cecilia says:

      She’s a liar and clearly a proxy for the middleton clan to sell kate across the pond

      I actually think harry is quite furious with kate.

    • Jegede says:

      Everything you said.👌

      This story seems like cover since Kate was put on the spot in admitting she had not met Lili even virtually, after a week.

      • L84Tea says:

        That’s exactly what this is. Kate slipped big time in admitting that they hadn’t spoken to or seen Lili yet, and this is them scrambling to try and cough loudly over what we already heard.

      • iconoclast59 says:

        @L84Tea, “…this is them scrambling to try and cough loudly over what we already heard.” I couldn’t put it better myself — perfect!

    • Ginger says:

      Katie Nicholl has been saying since last year that Harry and William were close again and were talking and Zooming, etc and Harry threw that ridiculous narrative away with the Oprah interview.

      Also, Kate told people and RR’s that Meghan made her cry when it was the opposite. I don’t buy a single thing from camp Kate. She desperately wants people to believe that she is close to Harry and it’s creepy. She needs to worry over her husband and not her brother in law

      • booboocita says:

        Worrying over Harry may be her way of worrying over her husband. If she can persuade Harry to return, she shows everyone she really is the lynchpin she and her press claim she is, indispensable to the monarchy and un-divorceable.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Nicholl knows to repeat the lies the Middletons feed her, even when she knows they’re lies. That’s been her bread and butter for two decades now.

      • kelleybelle says:

        In other words, water is wet, the sky is blue and Katie Nicholl is still full of it. She knows nothing and makes it all up. I wish someone would call her out on her BS. Harry is done. He’s just barely finished taking the knife out of his back, ffs.

    • MsIam says:

      That part where Know Nothing Nicholl says the baby will be “A peace offering” is creepy af. Like Harry and Meghan had a baby just to offer her up to the royals. Plus Know Nothing acts like its all on the Sussexes to make “peace”. Well I guess they forgot to tell Katie they were launching the attack on Lilibet’s name. Poor dear is out of the loop evidently.

      • BabsORIG says:

        And Katie the Liar Nichols need to stop right there. Peace offerings are animals (or objects) offered up as sacrifices. Lili is a human being and the Sussexes would never offer up their child as a burnt sacrifice. I swear these royal rota 🐀 and their hateful followers all see the Sussex kids as nothing but animals. Hour old Archie was referred to as a 🐒 and now days old Lili is referred to as a piece offering 🐑? Crazy!!

      • SenseOfTheAbsurd says:

        Yeah, it’s creepy the way they keep talking about Lili as some kind of human sacrifice. Does the Queen need to drink her blood to stay alive, or what?

    • Myra says:

      Yeah, I don’t believe this, at all.

  2. Snuffles says:

    I think Kate is on the What’s App with the rest of the extended family and got the announcement the same time everyone else did. I doubt she’s meditating anything.

    • goofpuff says:

      Yes, the “text” she got from Harry was the whatsapp announcement. This is so pathetic looking for Kate.

    • Jais says:

      So these texts that Kate is claiming could actually just be part of the family WhatsApp? That’s an idea @snuffles. Does that mean Kate has already outed herself as a leaker by claiming to be texting with Harry when it was just the group chat? Nothing new there. I’d say maybe she texted a congratulations and Harry said thanks. On whatever number he gave her? Or on the family group chat?

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        Seems Buttons is gettin’ around! Funerals, WhatsApp Chats, texting…she just keeps rollin’ along, linchpinning everyone together 😜

    • Jan says:

      Mike Tindel said the Sussexes dropped out of the family WhatsApp group, and that was before Archie was born.
      If Kate received a text from Harry, why was she so surprised when asked a question by the reporter about Lili.

      • The Duchess says:

        Because she’s a pathological liar. That’s why.

      • Ginger says:

        Because she didn’t. She said they haven’t FaceTimed with them and people were calling her out because she claims to be a peacemaker. She probably freaked and put this ridiculous text story out. And the supposed text happened in April.

      • Snuffles says:


        Good point. But I still think Harry communicates with cousins who don’t work for The Firm.

      • Myra says:

        I didn’t know he said that. He has quite the loose lips but at least he clears up some things when needed. If this happened before Archie was born, it would be good if everyone could revert back to the original timeline of the rift – late 2018/early 2019. The media saying the brother’s rift have been going on for a year is quite misleading.

      • equality says:

        Is Tindell a good source? And he may have lied to keep interest in the What’s App down after letting slip that there was one. How easy is a What’s App to hack?

      • Sunday says:

        Or they might have started a separate group chat without Mike, just saying.

        @equality he’s not the only one who’s mentioned What’s App, and I think they’re all nuts for even using it, let alone publicizing it. It’s owned by Facebook, I mean!! It’s incredibly easy to hack, and the company also has unsettling access to internal data. I’d think they’d use something encrypted like Signal at the very least, if not a government-issued satellite phone MI6 black ops chat program or something, you know? I can’t believe their security team allows it.

      • CC2 says:

        Is that true? He or the other Royal adjacent guy said that the Sussexes informed them about Archie’s birth via the family WhatsApp chat.

      • CC2 says:

        Is that true? He or the other Royal adjacent guy said that the Sussexes informed them about Archie’s birth via the family WhatsApp chat.

      • Persephone says:

        @Equality WhatsApp is unhackable, which is why the BRF (and other groups) use it. It’s end-to-end encrypted.
        I prefer Signal myself – don’t want FB/Zuckerberg any where near my phone.

      • Jan says:

        @CC2, he also said that Meghan and Harry announced their pregnancy to the family (excluding the Queen, she was told in person) on WhatsApp, so they knew before Eugenie’s wedding.
        Months later, he said they quit the family WhatsApp.

      • Curious says:

        doubt Harry is texting Catherine. no way on earth he will have any private text with her, after she did nothing to clear up the crying crap- she let Harry wife Meghan take the heat for that for yrs. and still to this day she haven’t said a word about it to clear Meghan name.

  3. Andrew’s Nemesis says:

    Great idea making Mumbles McButtons the conduit between the two families. ‘Meghan wants to speak to you’ would turn, via that incoherent fauxposh ‘accent’, into ‘Montalbano’s wiener peaks at news’, or similar, and then what would the Daily Wail do?

    • Astrid says:


    • LaraW" says:

      The Daily Wail, Richard Kay:

      The Daily Mail can reveal that palace sources close to the Duchess have recently expressed some concerns on the Duchess of Cambridge’s aural health and that this is possibly a matter of miscommunication between the Transatlantic parties.

  4. Iris says:

    I still think wishing a baby “all the best” is so odd?! She’s not a 97 year old woman you met once, she’s a baby

    • Jais says:

      It would have made more sense to wish Meghan all the best as she spends time with her new baby Lilibet. But then she’d have to confirm Meghan’s existence.

      • ABritGuest says:

        This. When Archie was born I don’t think Bill or Kate said anything about the new mother. And phrasing around wishing newborn Lili well is weird- you’d think it would make sense for the early years champion (who was focusing on parents need tools to equip them for kids early years at the round table) would say she hopes the parents are doing well. Much better was when she said she can’t wait to meet her.

        this is PR fix for Kate the peace maker. Katie Nicholls knows nothing about the Sussexes. And the language around Lili healing the rift is very dehumanising and gross. It’s just about the press wanting access and pictures of her.

      • Jais says:

        They def never say anything about Meghan. Wish Andrea Mitchell’s questions had been more like: Have you spoken to or FaceTimed your SIL Meghan to congratulate her on her daughter Lilibeth Diana? How’s she feeling? How can your early years research help support new mothers like Meghan?

      • swirlmamad says:

        @Jais that would’ve been EPIC. I think Keen would have short-circuited and then her head would explode. Lol.

      • Jais says:

        Honestly don’t know if she could have answered. The verbal gymnastics lol. Just once would like to hear Meghan’s name actually spoken aloud by Kate or William. Social media congratulations written by a staffer doesn’t count.

    • swirlmamad says:

      It was an odd choice of words because she was flustered, taken aback, and put on the spot that someone would actually dare question her. Also because she knows damn well she and William have NOT spoken to the Sussexes nor seen even a hair on baby Lili’s head. The way they push this woman’s alleged “perfect” persona is so pathetically ridiculous.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Wiglet & Baldy screwed up so badly again. They should have contacted the Sussexes themselves and made sure they viewed the baby by whatever means it took because they KNEW they would be ask about Lily. Are these people really this stupid or just so very petty that they cannot figure out what is in their own best interest?

      • KW says:

        @tampa, I think the most honest thing about the Cambridges is their gross stupidity. Good luck monarchy. These two twits ….

    • BeanieBean says:

      In all fairness, Andrea Mitchell phrased the question, ‘do you have any wishes for your new niece, Lilibet’? The standard answer would be something along the lines of ‘I wish her all the best’.

      • Merricat says:

        That’s the standard answer from people outside the family. Pretty cold from a family member.

    • Jaded says:

      Kate the Healer of f*cked up families can’t read from simple notes coherently so asking her to think on her feet and answer a spontaneous question, which she should have anticipated, is like asking her to explain quantum physics. She bungled the discussion with Dr. Biden so embarrassingly badly and ended it so quickly you could see how flustered and frustrated Dr. Biden was. What she should have said is “I haven’t seen her yet but I’m very excited to get a first glimpse soon”. Easy peasy.

    • Curious says:

      the normal is , people visit the baby or see the baby pic ,but 100% of the time friends , family wish the mother all the best . a new baby , waking up every 4 hours to feed the baby , giving the baby baths,changing their pampers.making sure their skin don’t get any rashes. by Catherine saying she wish the baby all the best . in my mind it sounds like she is saying Meghan is not a good mother, so hope the baby will manage to do ok. she did not even mention Harry/Meghan name. the hate Catherine have for Meghan runs deep. there will never be any friendship between them.

  5. Nomegusta says:

    I hollered when I read that.

    Mumbles McButtons needs to stop pushing these ‘peace keeper’ stories and go work on herself. I do not think Harry cares about this woman or her opinions (of she has any).

    Her Public Speaking coach is clearly Mush Mouth from Fat Albert’s gang and it ain’t workin, sis. She can start there.

    • swirlmamad says:

      LMAO — not Mush Mouth from Fat Albert 😂

    • Bellaluna McKenzie says:

      I’m dead…with tea all over my keyboard because I did not expect that one. Best comment of the day on this thread.

    • heygingernsaps says:

      There are magazines here with headlines stating “Meghan’s secret text messages to kate” or something to that effect, that Meghan needs keen guevarra’s help. I just want to burn all the magazines with those kind of nonsense headlines. pathetic as waity has never helped anyone but herself.

  6. Cecilia says:

    Oh shut up!

    That baby is not going to be a rift healer and neither is kate.

    The only way this rift it going to be “healed” if there is a sincere public apology coming from all the 3 royal households.

    • Jais says:

      How can this baby be a rift healer after the way the press and RF reacted over her name? Like that’s strait up delusional. Kate Nicholls strikes again!

    • Harper says:

      “I think that it is everyone’s hope that this little baby will be a peace offering in many ways and that she will hope to bring this divided family back together.” Does anyone proofread this journalistic slop? This sentence sounds like Harry and Meghan are going to hand over Lili to the custody of the Royal Family in the hopes that they can get back into its good graces.

      • Curious says:

        these people are sick in the brains, using a new born child for fun. of course Lili Diana can’t heal what grownups did to her mother… such bullshit.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “if there is a sincere public apology coming from all the 3 royal households.”

      And what if there is a “sincere public apology coming from all the 3 royal households”? Will it change anything? No, of course not. The problem is no longer just the BRF. The problem is also The Fail, The Scum and their respective commentariats.

      The Sussexes are not coming back permanently under any terms. When QEII dies, the remaining band-aid held in place by only dried blood will be yanked off and things will get much worse. Kensington Palace and Clarence House will be fighting to and fro thru the Rancid Royal Rat Reporters with the Sussexes becoming even more collateral damage.

      • Cecilia says:

        When i said “healing the rift” i didn’t mean meghan and harry coming back. That ship sailed when they denied them the half in half out option. What i meant with “healing the rift” is harry getting back on good speaking terms with his father and brother. Despite our own opinions on the matter, i think harry is gutted and does want a good relationship with them. And a public apology, and condemnation of the press could come a long way in that. But it will never happen

      • windyriver says:

        “…things will become much worse…with the Sussexes becoming even more collateral damage.”

        I wonder. RR and BM have had almost continuous material re: the Sussexes since their exit in March 2020; even after H&M bought their home, secured the Spotify and Netflix contracts, and were apparently settled in CA, this year was the supposed “one year review” period (which resulted in loss of their patronages, their last official tie as royals), Meghan’s DM lawsuit, and then of course the Oprah interview, and Harry’s mental health series and associated PR via Corden and Shephard. Finally, they just had their second and last (planned) child.

        Now they’re on a break. Strongly suspect when they come back, they’re done with interviews with personal revelations. At a minimum, Harry has his Netflix Invictus series coming up, the next games are less than a year away. I’m sure Meghan has projects planned. They have to be releasing something for Spotify at some point soon. Most likely from this point on they will focus on their work and building their foundation.

        Which means, the RR/BM/RF won’t have any more easy material. Sure, they can go on about will he/she/they or won’t they come for the statue unveiling, Xmas, the Jubilee, but that’s minor stuff. Maybe criticize business moves they make. (BTW, did anyone see Mike Tindall hooked up with a company that makes CBD food supplements? Haven’t heard much about that, have we.) H&M made it clear their lawyers will jump on any really egregious story-telling. CA really is pretty far away from the UK.

        Point is, as time passes, the Sussexes could get pretty boring for a voracious press needing to constantly generate scandal and discord. It might truly be open season on what the media has kept quiet about Charles, William, and the rest of the RF and Firm.

      • betsyh says:

        Windyriver, I don’t know. I don’t think those bully allegations are going away. The royal family want Harry back, not Meghan, and I think they will keep on defaming her until that happens.

      • windyriver says:

        @betsyh – It was pretty clear the bullying allegations that suddenly appeared (prior to the Oprah interview, yes?) were likely bogus; I think that’s one reason, along with involvement in the DM case, poor Jason was shown the door. In any event, H&M’s lawyers have been on top of it from the start, and it’s clear they’re ready to jump on any other BS that’s peddled. Also, if as some people suspect, Jason was implying the very problematic Melissa Toubati was one of the people supposedly bullied, I doubt the Firm wants that looked into too deeply. Wouldn’t be surprised if we hear nothing more about the bullying, just as there’s been nothing further re: hiring a “diversity tsar”.

        The last thing the RF had that H&M wanted was the patronages (his military appointments, the QCT). Once those were pulled the RF played their last card to entice Harry back. Also, it’s actually Harry, not Meghan, who’s been dumped on the last few months; I think it’s sinking in that the ship of return has sailed.

        H&M have their stuff locked down tight. The RF have no inside information to trade with the media. The Sussexes have been gone for 15 months – things that happened before then are looking like old news at this point (e.g., they’ve run out of mileage with the “Meghan made Kate cry before the wedding” story).

        Anyway, really “just spitballing” here – that’s why I said “I wonder” above. I know you can never say never about what the BM and RF might do from the depths of their petty vindictiveness, and the need to cover up any other questionable dealings in the background. My sense is one chapter in this saga is closing. The parties involved will regroup for the next installment, but the BM will still demand to be fed one way or another, and we’ll see what that brings.

    • Eurydice says:

      There will never be a public apology. The RF might share some private regrets to H&M, maybe an appearance of friendliness here and there, but too much was done on one side (the RF) and too much was said on the other (H&M). Whistleblowers never get welcomed back into the corporation, no matter how right they were to blow the whistle. Harry must have known this when they made the decision to do the Oprah interview.

  7. The Duchess says:

    “Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining” – Judge Judy.

    • 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 and a tinfoil 👑 to you as well, THE DUCHESS. And what’s up with Kate’s face. That one photo where she is leaning into Dr. B, she has weird, deep groves under her cheeks? All this “peacemaker” BS, may just be Kate setting the stage so that she can hang all over Harry at the statue unveiling. I’m thinking she’ll go for the money shot of a hug, a kiss on the cheek, or at least touching him in some way….so Kate can continue to feed this tale of her being the great facilitator. And yet, she can’t pick up the phone and call Meghan….can’t mention her name…..!

      • Jaded says:

        Her skin is sagging — too much suntanning destroys collagen in the skin. I’m sure her weight loss is causing it too.

  8. lanne says:

    I read all this Kate the Peacemaker garbage as KP trying to give Kate something meaningful to do. Or to pretend to give her something to do. It’s a reasonable cover for her lack of work: she’s been “busy” as a one woman Ministry of Diplomacy, taking meetings and giving briefs.

    I don’t think she’s done a damn thing other than click on a what’s app text. Maybe Harry and Meghan sent them a generic google baby pic to see if it surfaces anywhere. Those idiots aren’t going to reverse search that shit. It’s time for a fair bit of subtle payback trolling.

  9. Harper says:

    This is more nonsense from Camp Kate, who uses the words “realizes the importance of” before all of her big thoughts. Usually, she is “realizing the importance of The Early Years” but she is lazy so we also get “realizes the importance of maintaining William and Harry’s brotherly bond.”

    • Merricat says:

      “Kate realizes the importance of appearing busy in order to get out of any actual work.”

      • Jaded says:

        Haha! She’s been realizing the importance of appearing busy for a lonnnngggg time…she’s become a real pro at it.

  10. KT says:

    Hmm, yet another story that could have come from someone’s phone data being accessed illegally.

    I hope everyone is getting their phone security updated right now. Because it’s a good idea to be sure that someone actually talking to the media really is the only way for this kind of stuff to get out there.

    It would not be the first time – even relatively recently – that a story people assumed was from a ‘friend’ was generated by illegal information gathering.

    • SarahCS says:

      I believe this is 100% accurate AND that with the royals they rarely need to do anything actually illegal as the various ‘courts’ (including Bucklebury) have them on speed dial.

    • Haylie says:

      Nah. I thinks it’s just a totally made up story. Katie Nicholl is full of shit. She took the bit about the family WhatsApp from Meghan’s first pregnancy with Archie and how that’s how the fam found out she was pregnant. Only then, these garbage “reporters” claimed Meghan snatched the mic during a wedding toast, stood up on the couple’s table and announced her pregnancy at Eugenie’s wedding, or some such nonsense.

    • TheAnonymousPimpernel says:

      How can you hack make believe?

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        Haha right! It is all made up. These dumb Kate “peacemaker” stories started, I believe, late fall of 2019 and keep being regurgitated. Her “peacemaking” skills are as effective as her Early Years project. But, of course, if Harry goes to the statue unveiling, there will be another round of Kate’s “peacemaking” skills. Plus, it’s probably seen as a good way to deflect from Pedo Andy news. To bad it’s not realized that these constant stories being spit out kind of make it sound like Kate has some kind of Fatal Attraction level obsession with Harry. Katie Nicholl’s wording is really unhinged.

  11. Over it says:

    For Harry to text Kate would mean he trust her, he doesn’t. This is all keenbridges crap. And Kaiser , button closure.lololol. I am dying. Poor lady of buttons. Again Kaiser. You keep me laughing all the time.

  12. Sinéad says:

    Yeah, I’d say the ‘text’ Kate got was the same WhatsApp message the entire group got she’s just putting it out there like she got a private text to her own number but I doubt that. Harry didn’t look like he wanted to talk to her or be anywhere near her actually the day of the funeral, and she reframed that to put out a narrative that she ‘hung back to let the brothers talk’

  13. Edna says:

    Not buying any of this fan fiction that ET is promoting especially since Katie “I know nothing” Nicholls is the source. If a picture of Lilibet Diana was shared with the family it would have made its way to the tabloids by now. And I agree with others, that the “text” Kate received was via the family group chat on the WhatsApp.

  14. Basi says:

    Does the Duchess’s PR team think we were born yesterday? We see thru all this crap. She’s lazy, spiteful, and shallow.

    • BothSidesNow says:

      @ Basi, thank you! We all know how petty Keen Doucheness and Baldimort are, and the constant barrage of these Keen articles are falling on deaf ears. In regards to Nicholas Knows Nothing, is complete rubbish! They can keep spinning these lies but they will never change the past history of the smear campaign that The Other Brother and her Keen Doucheness put Meghan through all those years, an not just a year of smears, but years!! The Other Brother is furious that Harry has become someone of substance and has married a magnificent woman that has and is of great substance and she is also self made. Harry is a lucky man and The Other Brother knows it, as TOB married out of convenience or pressure from keen CarolE, not a marriage of love or passion. TOB picked her and he is stuck with her.
      I think that as soon as TQ dies, Harry and Meghan will never step foot on the Island of Salty Racist Royals, unless it’s for his cousin, Eugenie.

  15. Spittair says:


  16. Amy Bee says:

    Sounds like KP/Middletons are trying to clean up the mess Kate made on Friday. I don’t believe Harry and Meghan sent a pic of Lili via WhatsApp because the pic is likely to be leaked to the press. If he couldn’t tell his family on the day Lili was born that she had arrived, he’s not sending pictures to them. And if Harry had texted Kate why couldn’t she say that on Friday?

    Another thing Lili has no role to play in healing the rift. The family did not accept Archie and they’re not going to accept Lili either. I keep seeing that photo of Charles standing next to Harry and Archie after the Christening and Charles’ posture always struck me as odd and kind of standoffish. And as we know now he doesn’t want Archie to have a title after he becomes King and the family reacted badly to Lili’s name so she is not going to be a peace offering to the Windsors

    • Elizabeth says:

      I have no doubt Charles has been awful to Archie, but his default posture is “odd and kind of standoffish.” In most pictures he looks rather awkward and tense.

    • Sunshine says:


    • swirlmamad says:

      This is it. If this text/picture really HAD happened, she wouldn’t have looked like a deer in headlights when she was asked the question. She WOULD have lobbed back an answer with ease, because she’d be telling the TRUTH, and said something like “Oh yes, we’ve heard from Harry and Meghan and saw a photo…she’s just adorable” or something like that. Not the “I wish her (the baby, not the parents?!?!?) all the best, haven’t met her yet (you’re on different continents, we KNOW that dummy), but I hope to very soon” gibberish we got.

      ETA: I totally agree with you about Charles — that photo of him with Harry and Archie from the christening is just so frosty. LIke he can’t even be bothered to reach out to his own grandson….”lemme just look from here, but touch/hold him? NEVER!” I guess he’s scared the “color” may rub off on him. 🙄 I mean, we know he can act like a normal grandparent with emotions when he wants to — see those photos of him with George and Louis (note I didn’t say Charlotte, though) from that family photoshoot from his birthday, I think it was. He’s such a sh*thead.

      • booboocita says:

        And it’s circumstances like that that make me wonder if Chucky wasn’t the source of the questions about Archie’s skin color after all.

    • Tessa says:

      I don’t believe a one on one photo of Charles and Charlotte was ever released. Just the male Cambridge children.

  17. Eurydice says:

    So funny how the baby news is being eked out by dribs and drabs. It started out “OMG, the palace knows nothing!!” Then crumb by crumb we’ve reached “everybody knew everything.” Think of all the excitement we’ve had for all these days – how boring it would have been to know that Harry and Meghan announced the baby to the family in a totally normal way.

  18. Belli says:

    This “Kate is the bridge between the brothers” nonsense is just Kate trying to make herself indispensable to William under a different hat. She needs him to think that he needs her.

    • MsIam says:

      That bridge collapsed a long time ago. The Piddletons should stop trying to peddle that lie. This is why they are always telling Harry to stop talking.

  19. notasugarhere says:

    Sounds like Kate and Carole are afraid of all the bad Kate PR that has been rising up regarding her bullying of Meghan, her possibly being the source of the skin comments.

    I doubt Harry will ever forgive Kate for letting the crying lie about Meghan stand for 2+ years. Harry not shutting down Kate’s PR photo op at the funeral had nothing to do with Kate as peacemaker. It had to do with Harry gritting his teeth and not giving paps a money shot of him shutting her down.

    • Calibration says:

      Nota, exactly! This 💯

    • swirlmamad says:

      Yup — agreed. As much as it probably killed him to make it seem like he and Kate were and are cool, it would’ve been much, MUCH worse for him had he blatantly iced her out for the world to see.

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        You mean “ice her out” the way she did to him and Meghan at the Commonwealth Ceremony on their way out the door to their freedom?

        Yeah, I kinda would’ve loved it tbh lol, but then, I’m petty.

      • swirlmamad says:

        Oh, trust that my petty little self would’ve loved to see that too, but the way none of us here will ever forget Kate and that mega bitch move, the rest of the world would never let him live that down, either. He made it pretty clear in TMYCS that he is not trying to let these ghouls steal his peace and joy.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Nota – X 100!!!

    • Digital Unicorn says:


      The more I think about the skin colour comments the more I think that it might have been her that made them – people were v quick to jump that it was Chuck or Cain but what if it wasn’t them but her. Could also explain the desperation of the Mid PR to paint her as some sort of ‘backdoor’ friend to the Sussex’s.

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        Nah… don’t buy that. It was The Other Bitter Brother. Remember, Meg said to Oprah that Kate was basically a “good” person.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Digital Unicorn, I think it was TOB and that’s what started the rift before the wedding. After listening to the Oprah interview, it seems that the color of the baby’s skin came up again and more than once. I just keep coming back to the supposed comment TOB made to H about needing to slow down. That never made sense to me. If TOB was trying to make his point by using H’s future children’s skin color? Oh, yes, that would have caused a rift. And, there would have been even more discussions once Meghan was pregnant.

      • Maria says:

        I’m sure Kate shared those concerns but didn’t say so. Meghan was clearly bothered by her Tightsgate participation (or lack thereof), but explaining and then saying she thought Kate was a good person was the way for her to express her anger.

        It was more likely William because she behaved as if he did not exist, that whole interview. I think there’s a reason.
        But I’m sure the whole family was thinking it, William’s just the one who said it.

      • swirlmamad says:

        Meghan would have never referred to her as “a good person” in the interview if she had been the one. I agree that I’m sure she shared those same views, but she wasn’t the one who voiced them. It’s a toss-up between Bill and Chuck, no question, with Bill slightly edging into the lead for me. @Maria — I agree with you too. If you just look at Meghan’s face on the few occasions William was referred to….whatever she was thinking and feeling was NOT good.

    • Nic919 says:

      And let’s not forget the bitch face she pulled on them at the commonwealth service. Harry is not going to forget what Kate personally did to his wife. He was very upset when Kate did that and we could see it on video and in a lot of the photos.

  20. Over it says:

    I really believe Harry has introduced his baby to his moms sister and probably Eugine. You know if the rest had seen that baby they would use it as headline, Harry shows baby to his dad and brother as his way to beg for forgiveness for marrying the woman of color and saying mean things about his wonderful regal family. Well Harry ain’t sorry and he is in no rush to have those people sell out his daughter. Kate would first have to start building bridges by calling off uncle coke-bottle Gary and his attacks.

  21. MsIam says:

    Lots of “Harry” in this story. “Harry and the family”, ” Harry and his brother”. No mention of Harry’s wife who just had a baby? Who struggled with depression to the point she thought of suicide? I know this story is fake especially with Katie “The Liar” Nicholl in it but dang! These people have gall for days to try and big foot Kate in the middle of this story. If Kate had even an ounce of influence or compassion she should have told them to stfu about that baby name controversy because it made the Queen and her minions look terrible.

    • Over it says:

      So lili is another Sarah for Kate in other words. She seems to get off of using other people stories and life events to build herself a background. It’s safe and quiet gross actually.

    • betsyh says:

      This. Kate and William will never say Meghan’s name. Kate was relieved to see the smear campaign to get rid of Meghan succeed, except that she took Harry with her. They never want to see Meghan again. Harry can come back, but Meghan is just the baby mama who must stay far away in the US.

  22. L84Tea says:

    Nope, nope, nope. Babies are not Prozac. Sorry grown ups, it’s your responsibility to work your problems out. A newborn baby is not responsible for mending your shit.

  23. Lizzie says:

    ‘I hope to meet her soon’ says there are no plans right now to meet her. If there were really any communication keen would have said she WILL meet her soon. This isn’t how you discuss a new baby in your family, I mean I hope to meet the Pope one day but I definitely will meet my newborn family.

  24. Lucylee says:

    Next we will read that Kate sent the Sussex family Blue Apron meals for 20 weeks.

  25. Nina says:

    That is so embarrassing. Telling the world Harry texted her like there is some special relationship which the BM has been pushing all this time and then have that claim exposed as a lie. She should just stop.
    Bet H&M deliberately put it out that the picture was sent by group text to everyone. Kill two birds with one stone. Expose the lie of the special relationship and stop any possible leak by whoever is leaking to the BM.
    Obviously, the grey men don’t have access to the family’s Whatapp chat so that plugs that hole too. You got to give it to Meghan, she is streets ahead of those losers when it comes to being media savvy.

    • Lady D says:

      I don’t buy the fact that the men in grey do not have access to the family Whatsapp. Something like that seems right up their sneaky little rat alleys, and they have probably designated someone to keep an eye on it. There is just too much information on that site to let it go unchecked by the rat pack.

  26. swirlmamad says:

    She’s doing a pretty piss-poor job then, after that bumbling answer at the roundtable with Dr. Jill. 🙄 Give me a break, girl.

    • Natalie C Tyler says:

      Somebody sent me a transcription of what Keen said at the roundtable to Dr. Jill Biden: (I don’t know who gets the credit):

      Kate: “Actually the focus isn’t you know um sort of on on parenting itself but actually how we could give them the tools so that they are having their babies and and raising their children with these greater tools and I think that’s the way that education all the way through the system I think would be really um really powerful.”

      • Emineminaemin says:

        Wow! That does not make any sense at all. 10 years for this gibberish.

      • Nina says:

        Jeez, it’s even worse when it is transcribed like that. Did this woman buy her university degree?

  27. Calibration says:

    Omg linchpin McButtons at it again. So close with Harry, being a bridge. Who believes this crap? . She barely looked at Harry and Meghan at the commonwealth service and she’s been nothing but a mean girl, her standard modus operandi. So screw you McButtons. Only idiots believe your bs. This is made up since the baby Lili gaffe

  28. Another Anna says:

    If I had to guess, I’d say that Kate is texting Harry and is trying to insert herself as The Peacemaker and Harry isn’t interested. It sure seems like Kate is trying to create herself as this intermediary that Harry has been pretty clear he does not need nor does he want.

    Also, maybe Lili will be a “peace offering?” Does that phrasing sound incredibly creepy to anyone else? Like they expect Lili to be given over as a gesture of goodwill? Maybe I’m over-interpreting but with this family, anything goes.

    • MsIam says:

      Like some type of human sacrifice. I wonder if its the media thinking Harry will offer pictures of the baby as a “peace offering” to them? Because clearly the press have made themselves part of the family and any insult to the press is an insult to the queen. But yeah, they should know by now they ain’t getting nothing from Harry and Meghan.

      • Snuffles says:

        I mean, as much as I’m dying to see a picture of Lili, I wouldn’t blame them one bit of they don’t provide one.

  29. LaraW” says:

    Wtf? “ The Sussexes also share a 2-year-old son, Archie.”

    Share? SHARE? There is something so reprehensible about this phrasing. They HAVE a son, jesus f-ckin christ.

    “seen Archie in the flesh”

    Or you could just say “seen Archie IN PERSON”?? Why bring “flesh” into it? Motherf-ckers. Yeah, it’s a phrase, but do these reporters say “Kate met Harry in the flesh at Philip’s funeral”???

    “little baby will be a peace offering”

    Who is “offering” the baby to whom? Ostensibly H&M are supposed to “offer” their baby like a olive branch. And then watch as the RF and BM gleefully reject this sacrificial baby?

    You know what offerings are? They’re things you leave at the altars of gods. Every time they say “offering,” all I can think of is Abraham leading his son Isaac up the mountain to kill him as a proof of his faith to god.

    No way are H&M going to offer Lili as anything. The BRF and BM can go suck it.

    The abject and total dehumanization of Archie and Lili— I can’t even.

    • equality says:

      Yeah, I found that phrasing weird also. I wonder if they have seen any other grandchildren “in the flesh” since the pandemic anyway.

    • Rapunzel says:

      The “share a child” is what you say about a couple parents no longer together. It’s acting like the Sussexes are divorced, and delegitimizing Meg as Harry’s wife.

      The “in the flesh” is a tipoff the RRs just want to know how dark Archie and Lili are.

  30. MaryContrary says:

    So the criticisms of the baby’s name and the million and one stories and media appearances about the dustup was actually a “peace offering” and a way back to healing? Interesting tactic.

    • equality says:

      Really. If the RF really cared about peace they would call off the media and put out a statement saying the name is not problematic.

      • MsIam says:

        Seriously. They even have Paul Burrell out there pushing the “Lilibet is an inappropriate name” bullshit so they really must be desperate to stomp on Harry.

  31. Noor says:

    Hard to believe. If Kate was the peacemaker in 2018 to 2019 , it is possible that the bad relations would not have escalated between Prince Harry and William.

    • equality says:

      Yep. It’s not like Kate just arrived on the scene and didn’t actively participate in the rift.

    • MsIam says:

      Back then the press was too busy pushing the story that Meghan and Kate were fighting. Or rather that Meghan was bullying “Poor Kate”. Harry and William were bonding over how ” awful ” Meghan was.

  32. Robin says:

    Kate couldn’t mediate between knowing white from cream. I don’t believe it.

  33. girl_ninja says:

    Babies are not peace offerings and Katie Nicolls is a moron. I am so sick of lazy Keen, she can barely speak and write and she’s supposed to be helping in saving the relations between the families? Please stop Katie.

  34. TheOriginalMia says:

    I don’t believe a word of this Katie Nicholl’s fanfiction. Ain’t no way in hell Harry is posting a picture to the family’s WhatsApp for them to sell them out. Nope. As for Kate being a mediator, please. This woman isn’t in communication with Harry & Meghan.

  35. Mooney says:

    Please stick to Kate is the strength and silent power of the monarchy. Putting her in the same sentence with Harry disgusts me 🤮 Harry loves Meghan and is only polite with the Glue because he’s a gentleman. Nothing more.

  36. fani says:

    my theory is they do this on purpose – to needle/force her to do something.
    the pre-announcement creates hype for something that will end up being not-impressive.
    I think the people professionally around her are sick of having nothing/little to do and little to show for their efforts.
    they saw Meghan and how much she could get done in a shortwhile.
    I imagine they took their jobs because they wanted to serve, and instead they do a lot of …

  37. Margaret says:

    Oh I don’t know kate may be texting harry, I would not doubt that at all. Kates interest in harry is concerning. She has a brother, who suffers from depression, and a husband that is incandescent. Charity should start on salt Island. She needs to leave harry alone, he has a wife. She could start by healing her rift with meghan.

    • Lady D says:

      Meghan stands between Kate and who she wants. I’m sure she sees Kate as an enemy for life, and nothing is going to change her mind. Kate is going to remain spiteful ’till the end.

    • Merricat says:

      I doubt very much that Harry maintains a texting relationship with the woman who helped drive his wife to suicidal thoughts.

      • TheOriginalMia says:

        Thank you! Harry isn’t texting Kate, when Kate & her mother lied and coasted for years on a lie.

      • Margaret says:

        I don’t think harry is, I truly believe kate is texting harry. Should be texting the baby mama, as Mrs. Early childhood expert that she claims to be. I am sorry but there is something creepy about her fixation on harry.

    • February-Pisces says:

      Whenever I’ve done tarot readings on Kate she seems to have an unhealthy obsession with harry and meghans marriage. Also her interest in harry is sexual but not reciprocated. I think she believes that if Meghan was out of the way she would be one step closer to harry.

      Harry has a certain warmth that Willie doesn’t. I imagine when Kate was new harry was probably the one who was more accommodating rather that her own husband. I mean Willie wasn’t even there when Kate met the queen for the first time at Peter and autumn wedding.i reckon harry has probably told Willie off a few times for neglecting his wife, like that time when he walked off with the umbrella during the jubilee.

      I think she’s kinda obsessed with harry because he actually protects the women he cares about. She probably thinks if she had harry as a lover, he would be the one to protect her, like he did Meghan. But unfortunately for keen, she’s never gonna have him and he’s never coming back.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        February-Pisces, this is what I think, too. I have to wonder if she ever had anyone growing up that looked out for her. I don’t think she did. She may actually believe that Harry cares for her because of the little he did because he is a gentleman. If so, she’s going to continue to believe that. That could be part of the reason she so over the top when he’s around. Her marriage is for convenience IMO. She needs to look around and find someone close to home to give her what she wants/needs. If the brf keeps up this push to make a Kant and Harry thing, it will end up damaging Kant in the long run. It’s hard to believe that they can’t see that.

        I’m always interested in what you tell us about your readings. Thanks!

  38. Thirtynine says:

    I thought the funniest thing was Kate now being described as ‘Lili’s aunt, Kate Middleton.’

  39. Tursitops says:

    And doing a fine job at it!

  40. Likeyoucare says:

    You cant heal a rift when you are the one who are responsible in causing it kate.

    Harry wont offer lili as a sacrifice for when george make a mistake i
    the future ,like what william did to him.
    Therefor all these stories are lies and whisful thinking from kate.

  41. Amy Too says:

    So I guess this is the story for the American press: everything is great. Special relationships. Baby peace offering. Texts and pictures being shared. Family is thrilled and connected, desperate to visit baby.

    As if they’re not doing a whole a** hateful smear campaign in the UK press about everything surrounding the birth of this baby, including her name and whether or not the Queen even approves of baby Lilibet.

    It’s like they don’t understand we’re living in a world where media is global right now and we can see both of these contradictory and bizarre press strategies at the same time.

  42. Lili says:

    i won’t believe a word they say until i see kate and the kids at seaworld with uncle harry. and there fat chsnce of that happening . so where is the palace fact checking this article ? i thought they would be monitoring all the stuff about Meghan and Harry?

  43. Jaded says:

    This is just a lot of Middleton diversion to take the focus off the shambles Kate made of the Biden round-table. Every time the Cambridges do something stupid there’s an immediate fluffing up of their so-called accomplishments (AKA eff-ups) and an accompanying insulting article about the Sussexes by the RR butt-kissers. Wash, rinse, repeat.

    • kelleybelle says:

      She’s posing in these pictures and looks like a giddy child playing grown-up. All optics, nothing of substance. Nothing. Child-related stuff was picked out for her by the palace because they know she’s uncomfortable around adults and cannot hold her own. So kids it is. Now DO something with it, dammit.

  44. Liz version 700 says:

    I didn’t get a text. Whew intermediary work done for today. Now back to my pie graphs

  45. ceb says:

    wow, they’re really milking her walking next to some people outside a funeral and then walking next to some other people huh

  46. February-Pisces says:

    Charles, Willie and keen are so delighted by the birth of Lili they decided of launch a new smear campaign against her parents 2 days after Meghan gave birth. Instead of messaging harry asking how his new daughter is, his own family thought it was best to add even more stress and pressure onto them, with the constant ‘lilibet’ drama. They are all disgusting. I hope baby Lili never has to meet them.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Oh I do too. I hope those kids are kept away from their salty relatives forever

    • L4frimaire says:

      This all day. That family is so toxic and abusive, can’t even pull it together to fake it enough for a newborn announcement.

    • swirlmamad says:

      Agreed. Those disgusting soulsuckers do not deserve to ever lay eyes on those children in person ever again. I truly, truly hope Harry and Meghan are totally unplugged right now and not reading about any of this mess; their staff can sift through the garbage and inform them of the need-to-know things.

  47. Over it says:

    A peace offering sounds like they want to make the baby a sacrificial lamb. This is so disgusting. She is an innocent baby not a goat.

  48. Yinyang says:

    I bet she expects Meghan to extend the olive branch first. If she does it it’s only for PR, harry won’t believe it’s actually for real. The English royal family give off a bad energy.

  49. bettyrose says:

    “with whom Harry has always been exceptionally close with”

    I’m out.

  50. Saucy&Sassy says:

    As an Aunt, I probably would have answered the question with: I wish for her to sleep at night! Not very imaginative, but if you want something positive I suspect there isn’t a parent who wouldn’t have agreed with that.

    You’re going to sacrifice a baby “in the flesh”? Creepy is truly the only word that fits. Is this some British thing that doesn’t translate well to other cultures? I agree that the BM want pictures. I hope they keep their child(ren)’s picture out of the public eye for a very long time.

    • swirlmamad says:

      Yup. As a parent herself, instinctively that should’ve been the FIRST thing her mind went to — wishing for good sleep for baby and the new parents! But what else can we expect from the Duchess of Helium-for-Brains…

  51. Tessa says:

    I don’t think Harry and Kate were ever close.

  52. L4frimaire says:

    I find this whole line of coverage very confusing and just stupid. So first, they’re attacking Meghan and Harry’s newborn, saying they lied to the Queen and basically stole the name, while racists decided to chime in likening her to George Floyd, with the palace saying they’re going to activate brief against them now because they’re mad about baby Lilibet. Now we get this shite about Kate texting? They said she texted Harry but didn’t say if he responded. So now with this statue unveiling coming up, they want Kate grinning all over the place as the peacemaker while her tacky, gold medallioned uncle talks shit about Harry’s wife every other day. Miss me with this BS. Next we’ll be hearing that Lilibet made Charlotte cry.

  53. MerlinsMom1018 says:

    Dear Kaiser
    If the Olympics had an event for shade and snark you would be the reigning gold medal G.O.A.T.

  54. Well Wisher says:

    Prince Phillip’s replacement show do as he advocated for the family.
    He was of the opinion that no matter how horrible the disagreement is, argue/disagree within the family. He used to write letters instead of using the media.
    The Sussexes are sociable so there will be no confirmation of text.
    I hope they are not using WhatsApp, any stupid hacker with means can gain access especially if they are nosy mfers.

  55. Lady Foot says:

    I wish Katie ‘I Know Nothing’ Nicholl and the likes of her would stop pigeonholing the Sussexes into what they think they should or shouldn’t be doing. The gall of Katie to impinge on the newborn Lili with such impunity by labeling her “healer of rift” and offering her up as a peace offering. Katie can get away with it as they all but burnt Meghan at the stakes with no pushback from the Cultish Racist Family.

  56. Athena says:

    I wish the world for her. I wish for her to grow up healthy and happy. That’s the answer you give for a baby you care about. “I wish her the very best” means you haven’t given her a second thought.

    If H&M left the cousins WhatsApp it’s probably because TOB and Keen were on it. Would not be surprise if there are sub group chats. I think Anne, Zara and Mike can be trusted. I don’t think any of them have ever been credited with a story. I can see the Sussexes sending the birth announcement to whatever WhatsApp group the Cambridge’s are not in right before the official announcement. Send different pictures to different set of friends easy to trace if a picture leaks.
    The question was directed at the wrong person, Jill Biden probably knows more about baby Lili than Kate.