Lacey: There are ‘solid, long-term reasons’ for William & Harry’s rift to be resolved

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Even since the original edition of Battle of Brothers was published last year, Robert Lacey has made a number of public comments emphasizing the importance of Prince William and Prince Harry’s reconciliation. The more Lacey stresses it, the more I feel like Lacey is trying to make the point that the monarchy won’t be able to stand without Harry, and that William won’t be able to be king without Harry. Which is ultimately a very weird thing to suggest, right? I mean, granted, we’re in this bubble and we’re convinced that William is deeply unfit to have any kind of power. He’s petty, vindictive, and constantly engorged with rage. But the PR machine is still very much propping up William and covering for him. It seems strange that a respected royal historian is like “you guys, the future future king’s brother must come back or else this whole thing will fail.”

Royal historian Robert Lacey has updated his book Battle of Brothers: William, Harry and the Inside Story of a Family in Tumult, and he admits he was taken aback by the stories he uncovered about the rift between Prince William and Prince Harry.

“In updating this story, I am saddened about the depth of the rift and the animosity between the two of them,” Lacey tells PEOPLE in this week’s issue. Lacey wrote the first edition of the book last year but has spent the time since updating it and adding more chapters. At the same time, says Lacey, “I have also come to feel there are solid, long-term reasons for this being resolved in the future.”

[From People]

Cryptic much? Is he a historian or a warlock? Double, double toil and trouble/Fire burn and caldron bubble/The Bald One must make his peace/Or watch his keen empire crumble. Besides, just the fact that William continues to dig in his heels and smear his brother, his sister-in-law and his niece and nephew is reason enough to believe that nothing will be resolved. Ever. Speaking of, People Magazine also had this curious piece about how Charles feels about his sons’ feud:

The sustained tensions between Prince William and Prince Harry have devastated many members of the royal family – including their father, Prince Charles. The future monarch, 72, has historically had complicated relationships with his sons and is finding it hard to intervene as increasingly painful revelations about the roots of the brothers’ discord continue to come to light.

Charles is “shellshocked by it all,” a friend tells PEOPLE exclusively in this week’s issue. “He is very hurt and upset [by the ongoing fallout].”

Reconciliation between the brothers has been made more difficult by geographic distance and the challenges of the pandemic. Reunited for the first time in more than a year at the April 17 funeral for their grandfather Prince Philip, they shared a brief public chat outside St. George’s Chapel.

“Everyone was optimistic,” a source close to the royal household tells PEPOLE, “but nothing really happened.” Adds another close source: “There was not really any time to build bridges.”

[From People]

LOL, typical Charles. I’m surprised sources even bothered – it’s clear that Charles’ strategy in the “battle of brothers” is to leave a Prince-of-Wales-shaped hole in all of the stories. Harry has successfully dragged his father back into the conversation though, much to Charles’ dismay. Harry knows exactly what Charles did and didn’t do. And it’s not like Charles can pretend to be a neutral party forever. How can Charles be “shellshocked” when it was HIS failure to rein in William that led to all of this?

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  1. Cecilia says:

    Im genuinely tired of lacey now….

    And i highly doubt charles doesn’t know the root cause of the rift between william and harry and tbh i think he has had his own hand in this “rift”.

    • ShazBot says:

      This is an excellent point. It would not surprise me at all if Charles recognized the power they would have together, and tried to tamp that down a bit. Not that it would have been too hard, but not defending Harry is all it would take.

      • Me says:

        I’ve seen this kind of toxic dynamic —one family member makes every other family member miserable because of that individual’s self-obsessed insistence on having his or her own way. Others give way because they can’t stand the tantrums or are too cowardly to confront. The behavior only become more egregious over time and PWT is nearly 40. This situation is going to capsize the Windsors whole deal after the Queen dies.

      • Carmen-JamRock says:

        @Me

        Er…..PWT began his 41st year almost a week ago.

      • Becks1 says:

        @carmen – no, william is 39. He was born in 82.

    • ABritGuest says:

      Lacey was briefed to respond to Oprah. Also seen excerpt where he goes on about the Rose rumours just being social media gossip started by Giles Coren. They are so heavy handed lol

      Not sure how you can push reconciliation is important whilst saying William’s ‘friend’ called Harry damaged goods & that his staffers called her a b*tch and sociopath etc. Why would reconciliation be important with the ‘irrelevant, lying’ Harry anyway? Kinda shows for all the smearing of the Sussexes the press has been doing and the embiggening of other royals, the firm’s image has taken a big hit & they must be worried for when Elizabeth isn’t around any longer.

      • Lila says:

        That’s exactly what happened. I think William realized Lacey wasn’t flattering him in that book, so he ran to him to be portrayed in a much better light.

        Also, it’s funny how these people assume we won’t remember what happened when it comes to how the affair was reported. Giles Coren was not the first one to say something. I think it was Wootton who first wrote the rural rivals story, then Kay was employed to clean it up and ended up making a bigger mess. If it wasn’t for those two, nobody on Twitter would be asking questions.

      • Cecilia says:

        Well, smearing the sussexes has definitely worked, just the embiggening of the other royals haven’t. And that’s what grates at them i think.

      • Jegede says:

        @ABritGuest – 👍👍👊👊

        I’m surprised more font aren’t connecting the dots that this was in response to Oprah.

        KP had already briefed reporters back in May, that William was ITCHING to respond to Oprah and was very upset that the Queen instead told everyone to tamper things down.

        He has let it be known that he wouldn’t subscribe to ‘Never Complain. Never Explain’ and sanctioned this attack on Meghan for calling out their racism.

        The timing of the whole thing has been unfortunate, as the whole thing was dying down and Lili was born.

        This just proves William will be a bad leader.
        He’s not a long term thinker.

      • notasugarhere says:

        An editor for Foreign Policy tweeted months ago how the press are covering for William re. the Rose affair while attacking Meghan in exchange. When someone in a publication like that goes public about the media manipulation by TOB? I’m surprised it isn’t more of a story.

      • lanne says:

        I think people don’t come forward because they could be risking their careers, @nota. I really care about Harry and Meghan. I want them to have great lives and I look forward to them doing great things. But if my career were at risk if I spoke out, I would not do so. I couldn’t risk possibly getting sued by the RF, or blackballed. I What I think I would do, if I were a British journalist who had info about the royal family, is try to pass on that info to someone who couldn’t be connected to me. Maybe even here on Celebitchy!!

      • betsyh says:

        I agree that William leaking through his friend was in response to the Oprah interview. As Jegede said, William is not a long term thinker. He should have waited and given a more toned-down response. The vitriolic wording proves that William has an anger management problem.

      • Ginger says:

        Lacey still wants access to the palaces so he will push whatever narrative they want. He may not be a RR but he is no better in my opinion.

      • I don’t respect Lacey as an historian. He’s sold his reputation for a few years of public relevancy. He now talks out of both sides of his mouth as well. He publishes one thing then goes on camera and says another. In American press interviews he went soft on the Sussexes where he was pretty mouthy about them in British press and his book. Now, he gleefully puts all William’s trash in his second addition about what a waste of space and irrelevant both Meghan and Harry are and then goes on camera and says it’s vital for the survival of the monarchy that Harry put all this trashing behind him, suck it up, and return to the fold as he is extremely necessary to the survival of the Firm. Lacey needs to stop pimping himself out.

      • Lady Digby says:

        I loved R Lacey’s sanctimonious claim that friends of the each brother are working behind the scenes to reconcile their differences. Obviously William’s bestie 2nd hand venomous trashing of Meghan is not going to help anybody reconcile. William’ view that Meghan is nasty wasty and she stole his favourite toy, sorry brother makes him sound like a very angry toddler. William’s refusal to accept Harry,s choice of wife and resulting children caused the breach between them . Authorising his friend to rubbish her at length whilst piously claiming to be never explain never complain makes look like a weak, contemptible coward and bully. Unyielding hostility towards Meghan will ensure the brothers remain divided.

  2. Jais says:

    Omg. Is he a historian or a warlock? Followed by the Scottish play. Mad props. So so good. Poor Macbeth and his wife did not end well.

  3. Robin says:

    I truly believe the British monarchy is heading for extinction and that once William gets his hands on the crown the public will have little time for any of it, particularly for a petty man with possibly a divorced wife on his hands. There will be no belief in his sense of public duty; he has proven himself an undignified man child who plays an extremely dirty game.

    • Mac says:

      I think Charles sees the writing on the wall to some degree. He has already reduced the number of working royals and will probably cut off his siblings when he takes the throne. If he makes other big cost cutting changes William will inherit a greatly diminished organization.

  4. Andrew’s Nemesis says:

    William WILL fail. Without Harry to prop him up, his petulance, nastiness, narcissism and endemic weakness will be revealed. One day the tabloids will pull back the curtain to reveal the wizard, and it’ll be game over. He and his wife-for-now have no gravitas, no charisma, no work ethic, minimal intelligence. William wants to reign like Louis XIV. He is in for a sad surprise: protected from the realities of the modern world, his ego will suffer an unrecoverable battering when he is told No. No, he may not laze about on public funds. No, he must not escape on gardening leave. No, he may not avoid his duty to meet heads of state. No, he may not involve himself in political affairs a la Gordon Brown and meddle in the future of nations. The endless no, no, no will crack Billy-boy like Humpty Dumpty. After which no-one will be able to put the Monarchy back together again.
    I’m quite looking forward to it.

    • taris says:

      there are countless receipts from many many years ago of royal commentators drooling over harry and gushing that “he’s the future of the monarchy” and how “william needs him when he’s king”. many of these same commentators now make a living bashing harry, and one can’t help but wonder if perhaps they know the crown is screwed without him. but they’d never admit it. they really want harry back, but the relentless, increasingly unhinged attacks on h&m seem to me like some kind of projection by the british media. they lost a real asset in the sussexes.

      like, what harry said on dax’s podcast about the BM feeling a sense of ownership over him: they’ve taken harry’s departure a little too personally, imo

    • Demi says:

      He has authoritarian tendencies look at the mess he created in Scotland with KP threatening journalists who reported his meeting with Gordon& the way he handled BBC.. He will not be suitable as monarch he doesn’t know diplomacy no wonder the queen is travelling to Scotland to clean his mess together with Princess Anne.. He has to tag along to learn how it’s done but you can’t teach an old dog new tricks.

    • Hell Nah! says:

      @Andrew’s Nemesis: All props to your analysis!!

      If you don’t mind, I’ll take a seat beside you in glee when what’s left of the Monarchy finally goes belly up.

    • anance says:

      After Charles’, hopefully, brief reign, the British Parliament must intervene and pass the crown to George, who will be in his mid-20s to mid-30s depending on the time of Charles’ death.

      If Charles dies at the age of 90, William will be 60, and George 30. A young king would revitalize the monarchy.

      • SnoodleDumpling says:

        What makes you think George would be any better than William?

        People have thought that William would be better than Charles for quite some time now but the cracks are beginning to show, and skipping a generation does not change the environment in which these people are being raised and the values they are being taught.

        While William has always had plenty of things he’d like to change about his upbringing the things that made him such a jackass are things that benefit him the most, and with Kate having a similar ‘golden child’ upbringing it’s unlikely either of them will see any problem with raising their children the same way. The only things they were ever likely to change was their relationship with the media, and they’ve obviously caved on that in order to boost their own PR.

  5. Woke says:

    This narrative that he’s always trying to push get on my nerves. Does he think he’s helping the situation by helping William attack his brother’s wife ? He’s just an opportunist, he saw that his book didn’t sell that much because it made William look bad so now he changed his tune.

    If we’re being honest as long as the UK media back William he’s going to be fine.

    • Jegede says:

      @Woke – Everything you said on Lacey’s motives.👏👏👏👏

      He also doesn’t want to be left out of the loop in FFK William’s reign.

      The fact that William spoke to Lacey directly – sorry William’s friends🙄 – to lob horrific abuse at Meghan, shows William is very much working with the tabs to destroy her.

      • ShazBot says:

        Lacey is 77 years old. He’ll likely be dead before William gets near the throne, which makes it more disappointing actually. Wouldn’t you want to go out with a bang…the guy who told the truth? Said the unspoken? Apparently not.

      • Jegede says:

        True.

        But as William ‘prepares’ for the throne, don’t think there still won’t be chicanery and stories to mine in upcoming ‘William vs Charles’ years.

        And Lacey wants front-row seats.
        Esp with his role, as consultant to Netflix’s The Crown.

      • Becks1 says:

        He’s not worried about William’s reign, he’s 77 years old lol.

    • Becks1 says:

      We also need to keep in mind that these are only the excerpts, and I’m not sure he has control over which ones to release. The book was more objective than I had expected it to be (he criticizes the Sussexes, but there is plenty of criticism for the Cambridges as well) so I wonder what else is in these updated chapters.

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      It’s comical what Lacey and the BM are doing. And, does indeed to appear that he/William is/are trying to refute the Oprah interview and everything else. Most authors don’t release the amount of information that’s been released with Lacey’s paperback edition. Intrigue is part of the sell. Authors give out a blurb and cross their fingers. Lacey could hold back if he wanted to. Something different is at play here. Sorry Lacey, you’ve become the annoying friend who says “remind me to tell you something later” and doesn’t really have anything to tell you later that you & everybody else already knows.

      I’m having a hard time believing Charles or a friend is going to People magazine without an official CH statement. I think it was last month The Telegraph? did an article about Charles’ community garden project/initiative and hours later People magazine reported the Grandma Carole gardening story. Charles isn’t “shell shocked” about anything.

  6. Haylie says:

    This man has 3 heirs, a wife, and not to mention, Fop and his beard, SoFiesta. He’ll figure out how to King.

    • Cecilia says:

      As long as william has the uk press on his side (which he always will have) he’s going to be absolutely fine. This is why i don’t get the whole sussexes smear campaign. Legit nothing was endangering williams reign and it can’t just be about popularity because harry has always been more popular than william and it never used to be an issue.

      I think it was kate. SHE had a problem with meghan being more popular than her and decided that something must be done. And she got her husbands backing to do it.

      • taris says:

        the smear campaign is about the cambridge’s insecurity. they’re outshined by the sussexes’ megawatt star power, and h&m’s appeal with young brits (and around the world, in fact) scares the bejesus out of the firm.

        note how anytime h&m announce a new project or when yet another poll comes out that says “meghan beats kate, voted most iconic royal”, or “harry and meghan seen as brave by young people” – the palace goes into overdrive with the leaks.
        it’s vile.

      • Betsy says:

        It’s a good theory, but I don’t think William would do anything for Kate unless it served him most. He just doesn’t seem to care about her or her feelings at all. I can’t see him risking his reputation to smear Meghan and Harry unless it suited him.

  7. equality says:

    There are solid long-term reasons for the rift. Not sure what kind of reasons Lacey can come up with for resolution. During the pandemic many have been receiving therapy over video chat so excuses, excuses as far as the distance making things not possible.

  8. ModeratelyWealthy says:

    I have only read Lacey´s Grace Kelly bio and I felt he is a very well-handed biographer. He was entirely sympathetic, but not beyond reproaching his subject at times. I enjoyed his style of writing and so, but I am taking a pass on this brothers book because it seems Lacey knows a LOT but can only disclose so much and I hate crpytic comments, especially when it seems tailored to the specific news outlet he is speaking to, which must be fair to do when you are a pro, but oh boy, it does read terrible to me.

    This ALL being said, Lacey is very well connected. He keeps insisting about William needing Harry, is because this might be the general consensus of his sources. Why would Willaim need Harry? That is the big question!

    Methinks the reason goes beyond Willaim needing a second in command when time comes. I mean, when time comes, George will be out of University, if Charles is in good health.

    To me, it is because Willaim´s desire to get rid of Catherine is known within the institution. Known, acknowledged, but not spoken of.

    Again, all that William has to do to keep his ” moral” advantage from his father is ensuing his divorce is painless. I can even see his plan is to remain single. He would get tons of good PR from single father, he would get tons of attention from women he could date, Royal Rota would be orgasmic about linkling Willaim to all sorty of women they could harass, not to mention the ” poor Kate” headlines…

    Just theory, of course. Willaim might be miserably, but we should never wish for any marriage to fail.

    • ModeratelyWealthy says:

      I truly believe separation is better for children than a terrible marriage in most cases, but I am just speculating. I dont known them to know what would be best, and eveb if I did, they are adults, capable to make decisions- or so it seems.
      ” employer” and the “employee”.

      So, in short, on a persoal level, I find sad that we might be seeing the dissolution of a marriage with young children to boot, which is never a nice thing to witness, yes, but on a business level, I believe there are reasons both for and against this marriage to dissolve from William- aka, the institution- to happen.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Children are better off in a marriage of divorced parents who are happier divorced, instead of being raised in the middle of a miserable marriage.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        I agree, though with William as a father those kids are king of Fubared from the get go.

    • Tessa says:

      Lacey was on Larry King and he got a lot of flak when he implied that it was “better” Diana died young, since her life would go downhill rapidly if she lived longer. It was sickening. William CAN get a divorce, his father did with a more popular consort than Kate. And they worked out the divorce settlement. Charles got to do what he wanted. William would too. William could spin it that he and Kate went their separate ways and a little bit later, he would show up escorting a girlfriend. He could spin it.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      ModeratelyWealthy, That’s an interesting hypothesis, but it doesn’t address the fact that W needing H to rule was being said before W married K. H has always been very popular. I agree that W wants to divorce K–it’s quite clear by his demeanor that he HATES being around her. Frankly, I can’t think of a better time to do it than now. He can just keep throwing H&M under the bus to overshadow anything to do with K and him. I disagree that we should never wish for any marriage to fail. There are very good reasons to end a marriage and abuse is one of them. I, personally, think that for the children’s sake the best thing that could happen is a divorce. And, the sooner the better.

  9. Julia K says:

    Could the long term reason be that if anything happens to Wm, Harry will be regent for George?

    • Jais says:

      They would need Harry to be regent if something happened to William. That’s pretty macabre though without any context but Lacey is being cryptic so?

      • Lorelei says:

        @Jais (this is not meant as snark toward at you at all!) but isn’t that why they have an entire line of succession? If Harry isn’t available to be Regent for George, they move on to the next one, and so on. Who (I think?) is Andrew, which is exactly what that family deserves. They did this to themselves.

      • Haylie says:

        I mean, Elizabeth and Charles are still alive and well. So is William. The the reason Harry just has to come back for William can’t be because George needs a Regent. Besides, there’s always Andrew. They don’t seem to have a problem with him.

      • Jais says:

        @lorelei- lol yes it is! Just meant it’s macabre as in it almost seems like he’s suggesting something might happen to William soonish or something is wrong with his health.

      • Tessa says:

        Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial might make it irrevocable that Andrew will never ever be Regent. There is even a TV show about Ghislaine on US TV. Even the Royals can’t turn a blind eye to the scandal.

    • Betsy says:

      Is it suggested that something is wrong with William? We’ve discussed the possibility on here that he suffers from mental illness (vs a personality disorder) and someone posted the rumor that years and years ago William either overdosed or attempted suicide.

  10. Noki says:

    Look at the the example they have for a father . Kids always look to the ‘head’ (in this case Charles) as the example growing up. Chuck is cold and acts superior to his own siblings so this is what William has inherited.

  11. Jay says:

    I mean, there are many reasons why the royals should want to heal the damage they dealt to Harry and Meghan, including but not limited to the long term survival of the Commonwealth into the next decade. But I can’t think of any reasons why Harry should or would want to get back with them. When somebody shows you who they are etc etc.

    • lanne says:

      I don’t think they really care about the commonwealth

      • notasugarhere says:

        I think they care deeply about the idea of The Commonwealth (ie. modern version of old school Empire), but don’t care at all about the people who live there.

      • lanne says:

        ITA. The idea, not the actuality. I’ll bet they still refer to it as the Empire amongst themselves.

      • Jay says:

        About the people? No, probably not. About the loss of “their” colonies, and the prestige and power they once brought? It’s deluded, of course, but I think it is something they are worried about. Nobody wants to be the generation that loses the family farm, so to speak.

      • The sad truth the Royals can’t face is that ‘the Sun barely rises over the British Empire in this day and age.’ It seems they all still live the pipe dream that the Sun still never sets over their relevance and power. The royals are living at least 100 years in the past, but —-hey —- it brings in the tourists!

      • Seaflower says:

        They want the Commonwealth as trading partners now they’ve lost the EU through Brexit.

  12. Over it says:

    Harry is hot, Willy is not.

    • Maria says:

      Those are the reasons. William needs him for PR. But wants him under his thumb. Not happening!

  13. S808 says:

    6th in line being the key to the kingdom doesn’t bode well for the future of the monarchy.

  14. Harper says:

    What is a solid, long-term reason? Does William have an agreement that he gets out of the line of succession once he’s established Windsor heirs, and Harry was the one who would step in until George was ready? Is something physically/mentally wrong with William where his long-term reign is in doubt? Kate doesn’t even sound like the issue here.

    • Jais says:

      Yeah, I agree. This sounds way beyond just separating or even divorcing Kate.
      If he tells us there are solid reasons, without telling us the reasons, people are going to speculate.

    • Nina says:

      This is my guess. I have a very strong feeling that there is something physically/mentally wrong with Will and they all know it

    • Becks1 says:

      Yeah, its weird and Lacey has been saying this for a while now – that Harry and William NEED to reconcile for William’s reign.

      No one has ever said that Charles and Andrew need to be BFFs for Charles’ reign.

      I don’t think this is just a matter of William’s incompetence and laziness – the press will cover that up for him like they always have. It feels like there is something more going on.

      And if there is, it might explain why everyone freaked the eff out when the 6th in line said he wanted to step back as a senior royal, way back in 2019. It shouldn’t have been the huge deal and caused the family outrage and drama that it did.

      Addiction? Mental illness?

      We’ve heard enough tidbits about the press “covering” for William and it’s not just his affairs. What the eff is going on?

      • Tessa says:

        william went to University, he needs to do the math and realize he won’t get Harry back unless he is at least civil to Meghan.

      • Rapunzel says:

        Becks- Valid points, but I think it’s as simple as Wills doesn’t want to do the work, Kate does want to do the work, and the family knows without Harry, no work will get done.

        I also wonder if incandescent Wills is threatening to peace out without Harry. That maybe the family sees Harry created a precedent to step back and Wills might take it.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Tessa LOL at “he needs to do the math” but I don’t think he’ll ever get Harry back. Harry is never going back as a working royal. By the time William is king (let’s say 20 years), Harry will be in his mid-50s and well established in the US and international charity and entertainment worlds. He’s not going to give up his independence to be William’s whipping boy.

        And I think that’s part of the issue – William and the institution and the press all know that and it’s a big problem for some reason. Why? William can always just follow the Windsor tradition and use his children as scapegoats to boost his PR. So what’s the problem here?

        (but I do agree that William and Harry will never reconcile unless William is nice to Meghan.)

      • notasugarhere says:

        William won’t peace out until he gets his hands on the private wealth.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Rapunzel I thought it could just be about the work, but by the time he’s king he’ll have been a lazy duke, a lazy prince of wales – I kind of figure people will just be used to it? And as long as the press continues to protect him, he’ll be fine. And by that point the press will be laser focused on the Cambridge children.

        Him threatening to walk away could be it though. I said on here a few weeks ago that I wonder if he threatens that constantly, and its both why he’s coddled so much (to keep him happy) and if that’s why the family didn’t respond to Harry when he said they wanted to step back – they didnt take him seriously bc William threatens that all the time. Maybe he’s stepped it up though?

      • Harper says:

        William hasn’t done much of anything since the Scotland tour … his life is a virtual peace out without being officially called that. He helicoptered in and out of the G7 to save time. Has he appeared anywhere except for that brief Sandringham race start since then?

      • Becks1 says:

        @Harper – a drone filled him making the announcement about the date for the earthshot prize. That’s work, right? LOL

      • Jais says:

        @becks1- you mentioned addiction issues. Have no idea but tinfoil hat territory here. Kate wrote a forward for a new patronage that merged with her old addiction patronage a few days ago. In it, she writes how childhood trauma can often lead to addictions in adults. Idk? It just struck me that this came out just as there are rumors she is moving closer to her family. Feel like I’m overreaching or looking for things that aren’t necessarily there but when vague things keep being alluded to it’s hard not to speculate.

      • Rapunzel says:

        Okay major tin foil tiara here, but could these solid reasons be related to the Windsor finances? Are the Windsors worried that Wills might steal charity funds and duchy funds? Not outright, but through shenanigans like we’ve heard rumored? Maybe those in the know know that Wills is crooked and want Harry to keep him honest? Or want Harry to distract from these crimes? The Midds and uncle Gary are shady af, and Wills might be in on something dirty with them.

        Ooooo…what if Wills is running or profiting from the pot farm!?

      • Lionel says:

        @Becks, I think you’re right but that the reason is simpler. Harry knows enough to burn the whole place down with one tell-all interview. The more KP, the BM, W&K, or whoever antagonize him, the more likely he is to eventually do just that. That’s why they *need* to bring him back into the fold and placate him into dutiful silence.

      • betsyh says:

        Maybe, years ago, William told his father that he wouldn’t reign unless Harry was going to help do the work?

      • SueBarbri says:

        Agreed. There’s something wrong with William–either physically, or emotionally, or because he has so many hidden scandals that everybody knows he’ll be a disaster when they come to light.

        My own pet theory about all of this is that Harry and Kate spent years walking on eggshells whenever they had to work with him. I think that’s why the two of them always seemed so in synch whenever the three of them did engagements together. And I think that’s why her behavior toward Harry in front of the cameras seemed flirtatious or whatever. I don’t think she had the hots for her brother-in-law ( I hope!), I think they both just felt the need to pick up the slack with enthusiasm and big smiles and all that pointing and laughing hysterically, etc. since William couldn’t or wouldn’t do it.

        This dynamic changed when Meghan came on the scene, I think. I think that while Harry and Kate and everybody else in the royal orbit humored William (or is frightened of him), I got the impression that Meghan is not impressed with him or scared of him. And nothing angers a bully more than somebody seeing right through their BS. The two of them probably had it out over the cookbook or the money or the foundation or something like that, and Meghan didn’t back down. And that’s when William began spiraling out of control.

        I also think that Meghan peeped how William treats Kate (affairs and belittling and all of that) and perhaps tried to intervene. Kate seems isolated and scared to death, and I think she probably resented Meghan’s attempted intrusion.

        There’s a lot wrong here.

      • NA says:

        @Becks1, this conversation has stirred a vague memory of a prior comment thread wherein at least one, maybe two (?), people commented that they have it on very good authority that Wills is very VERY fond of the white powdery stuff. I seem to recall that one of them was certainly part of or adjacent to his set, and that it was well known that he was a BIG partaker. If true, this may explain the veiled language and the wink, wink, nudge, nudge on his need for Harry at his side to effectively reign.

    • notasugarhere says:

      I don’t think the reason is William’s physical or mental health, or courtiers struggling to cover it up, because we’ve all seen William has been this awful his entire life. More that – William won’t stand for Free Happy Harry living a successful life on the global stage. William cannot stand that, so he MUST have Harry back under his control.

      The initial talk of William wanting Harry and Meghan banished to ‘Africa’ so they’d disappear from the global stage? That’s William’s massive ego talking, as it is his ego talking through Lacey.

    • Demi says:

      Here’s another guess: Princess Anne won’t live forever& she been carrying lots of roles within the monarchy important diplomatic ones.. They want Harry to be the future princess Anne

      • lanne says:

        Princess Anne is a workhorse, but she never pulled focus. Harry was always pulling focus to the point where he was considered the star of the RF and their most important ambassador, not William. They needed him to pull focus, but they want to be able to shove him in the back when he isn’t needed. Human beings don’t make very good sock puppets, so bad strategy on the part of the RF

  15. Eurydice says:

    Hmm, if there are solid, long-term reasons, then maybe someone should tell William what they are?

    • Jaded says:

      I’d say the long-term reasons are that Wm is a stupid, selfish, spiteful wanker with absolutely no talent or enthusiasm for the job, but he likes wielding the power. Without Harry’s charisma, dedication and focus, he’s as useless as tits on a bull, and will demolish the Commonwealth and drive the monarchy into the ground.

      • Eurydice says:

        I don’t live in a Commonwealth country, so I can’t say – do people really care about the monarchy? I mean in a substantive, everyday, “I need the monarchy in my life” kind of way? I get the impression that the royals are just there in the background, they show up for regular events and holidays, with the occasional trip to remind the more remote member countries that the monarchy still exists.

        I guess my point is – will it really matter if William is an unpleasant, egotistical dullard? There have been plenty of those in the royal family. If he slaps on the medals and Catherine wears a big hat and the children all look cute out on the balcony, will the Commonwealth expect anything more from him?

      • Jaded says:

        @Eurydice – I live in a commonwealth country (Canada) and general consensus is the monarchy is an anachronistic entity that is a drain on tax-payers’ money and who continue to live in unimaginable wealth without doing much other than deign to visit the “colonials” once in a while then go back to their vast array of castles and estates with hundreds of servants who are barely represented by the very people who consider the Queen their head of state. The problem is that for many commonwealth countries (Canada is a good example) it’s an incredibly difficult and complicated process to leave. For a small island nation like Barbados, it’s relatively easy but in Canada, all 10 provinces and 3 territories would have to hold separate referendums, and numerous treaties between our First Nations peoples and the crown would have to be dealt with separately on whether to stay or leave. It’s probably the same in Australia.

        William is more than an unpleasant, egotistical dullard — he’s a spiteful, lazy, tempermental and underhanded brat who, along with his wife, created an untenable situation for Harry and Meghan. He leaked and lied and condoned a blatantly racist and threatening situation for Harry and Meghan by his complicity with the gutter press. He likely fiddled with the foundation monies when they were under one roof, and is clearly the one who started the conversation about Archie’s skin colour.

        Having someone like that as FFK, and the next Prince of Wales, is pretty much a poke in the eye for this Canadian and I’m sure many more feel that way too.

      • Eurydice says:

        @Jaded – thanks so much for your perspective.

      • SenseOfTheAbsurd says:

        In NZ the royals get shoved down your throat in the lady mags, but only a few zealots really care that much. Harry and Megan brought out the crowds, but there’s a marked lack of interest when the others tour. The main hesitation is that there’s no written constitution, and it has to be determined what to replace monarch/governor general with. Queen still has respect, mainly from older people, and I doubt any moves towards republicanism will be made whilst Her Maj is in the job.

  16. Cessily says:

    At this point it really doesn’t matter if PW needs Prince Harry to be king or not, PW is two Monarchs away from the crown he has plenty of time to figure it out himself. What does matter is what Prince Harry needs to keep himself and his family happy and healthy both physically and mentally and most important thing is that it matters that his family is SAFE.. and by the hate and viscousness of the tabloid run Isle they were not safe there.

    • S808 says:

      Yeah, the kids will be grown and likely have families of their own before he gets the throne. He doesn’t really need Harry for anything except cover for his blunders and lack of work ethic.

      • Cessily says:

        Exactly.. this is PW’s opportunity to show his country and the commonwealth his integrity and leadership skills it is not Prince Harry’s fault he is failing in that.

  17. Ann says:

    Is it possible that William has some actual physical ailment that hasn’t been disclosed, that might be incapacitating in the near future? I don’t think that’s it, though it’s often (rightly) noticed on this site that he doesn’t look well right now. Just a stab in the dark.

    • lanne says:

      Or he has a diagnosis like NPD or BPD or bipolar that’s being hushed up. All of this consternation over Harry and expecting him to carry the load is really atypical. No one expected Anne or Andrew to back up Charles the way that Harry is expected to back up William. There is definitely something being covered up

      • Haylie says:

        It’s not like he’d be the first “Mad Ruler.” Even the “stable” ones weren’t above genocide and setting anyone outside of the ruling religion on fire.

      • Jaded says:

        I’d put money on NPD. Unfortunately, if that’s the case, a cure is pretty much impossible. People can learn to “manage” it if they take therapy seriously, but it’s pretty much a life-long challenge. NPD is difficult to treat because the inappropriate behavioral patterns often stem from childhood or adolescent trauma and are deeply engrained. I imagine if he hadn’t lost his mother he’d be in a much better place emotionally and psychologically.

      • Deering24 says:

        Agreed—it sounds psychological. But why/how on earth did the Royals think that treating Harry like crap all these years would “inspire” him to be a shadow king? Why abuse your only face card, as it were?

    • MonicaQ says:

      You’re right. At first I thought it was long haul COVID but he looks…ill. I can’t describe it anymore than that. Maybe that’s why Harry hasn’t cut completely all ties with the family portion yet? Or maybe like Ianne says, he’s NPD and therapists tend to tell you to minimize/low contact people like that if you can. (Or at least mine did). What better way to NC/LC someone by moving out of the country?

      Or this could be another tinfoil tiara theory, haha.

    • Nina says:

      My thoughts exactly, he looks really unwell, Kate is looking for a place near her parents, stories about Will needing Harry… It’s very sus

    • NotSoSimpleTaylor says:

      I would just like to point out that narcissism and autism can look similar.

    • TabithaD says:

      He doesn’t look well lately, that’s right. He doesn’t look healthy anyway. Maybe it’s just old habits catching up with him (he’s supposed to be a bit of a boozer, does he still smoke too?), maybe it’s stress from all that rage. He looked so angry and pissed off throughout his Scotland trip and it’s odd that they kept him completely out of the way at G7, while they gave Kate free rein to do her fake “roundtable” with Dr Biden. (Speaking of which, he looks like he can no longer bear to be around Kate and he’s not bothering to hide it).
      Something’s up, that’s for sure.

      • Demi says:

        If he been a heavy drinker all his life then he might be suffering from liver &gut problems it’s called alcohol-related liver disease (ARLD) if the person doesn’t stop drinking it can get serious& damages the liver.

    • TeamMeg says:

      I’ve been wondering about this lately, too. I think something is askew with William. At the very least, he may be on the spectrum.

      Meanwhile, he should always wear a hat. Always.

      • lanne says:

        I dont think it’s spectrum related. I think that’s an insult to people on the spectrum. He seems pretty neurotypical–he’s the monster that he was raised to be. We’ve all seen Entitled Snowflake Syndrome. Imagine a person like that that we see day to day with the power and wealth of the British monarchy. He’s the Male “Karen” trope on steriods. Even as a child he used to tell his playmates that he was going to be king and he’d send soldiers to get them. Lots of kids go through stages of grandiosity, but when that crap is encouraged, and even celebrated? Even his mother by herself would be unable to stem that behavior if everyone else around him is encouraging it.

      • bamaborn says:

        Don’t know, but, makes you wonder why William is not being seen that much as opposed to Kate. When people make observations saying he looks ill, well…he does. You can lose weight without losing muscle mass and he appears to have lost mass especially in his upper body. Signs someone is in pain could be a clenched jaw or balled fist. So, I will hold off commenting on the guy until he at least looks better.

    • Lizzie says:

      If this were true what an opportunity to highlight mental health issues and how one can lead a productive life. But do they ever recognize an opportunity in front of their face?

  18. SH says:

    One of the big things the rift did is kill William’s connection to Diana’s legacy rather quickly. And he hasn’t helped himself by essentially calling his mother paranoid and delusional. The monarchy has benefited for decades from being able to co-opt Diana’s legacy as their own after her death because of William and Harry’s presence in the monarchy. Harry leaving took that legacy with him and exposed William as aligned with the institution over his mother’s legacy.

  19. Sofia says:

    Why exactly do they need to be in a better relationship for the long term???? Being King is not a job for 2. It’s a job for 1. If there is something that prevents William from doing that job then I think the British public have the right to know. Signed a British citizen.

  20. Amy Bee says:

    Charles was an equal partner in the smear campaign. As for Lacey, he just repeating everything that the other royal commentators have said, Harry was supposed to be by William’s side when he became King. I do wonder if Harry used to tell the family that he was never getting married because it doesn’t seem like plans were made for a future wife. Harry was to devote his life to the Royal family and according to Lacey, William felt that Meghan was taking Harry away from him. Plus, Charles told Harry he couldn’t afford to fund Meghan. Harry did say in his documentary that he never thought he would be married with children.

    • Tessa says:

      Harry had every right to get married. Why did William not make the “sacrifice” and avoid marriage and children. Harry was supposed to be relegated to Third Wheel and trail after Kate and William.

      • Jaded says:

        Because as FFK it’s William’s duty to bring an heir and a spare into the world. Same as his father who basically had to be forced to marry Diana for that very reason, and ended up in a loveless marriage that ended in divorce. Wash, rinse, repeat.

      • Tessa says:

        The Duke of Windsor did not marry the “suitable woman.” Charles technically did not have to produce an heir. And I don’t buy Charles spin that he was forced. He was a grown man of 32. He just wanted to get heirs and he wanted the marriage on his terms (he got to continue seeing Camilla). I think Mountbatten had he not been assassinated would have successfully arranged the match between his granddaughter Amanda and Charles. ANd masterminded the marriage. She might have been instructed to turn a blind eye to Camilla and others that Charles was seeing. Diana did not want to put up with the arrangement. But I never bought into the idea Charles was forced, He got to marry and produce heirs but on his own terms.

      • NotSoSimpleTaylor says:

        In all honesty, I truly think that England would be better off with a King Edward IX than a King Charles III. A King Peter or Beatrice as Queen Elizabeth III is a more attractive option at this point (And yes, despite Edward’s own blunders, I think he is more qualified and suitable for the role of King). So why all the force to marry off Charles? They honestly didn’t need heirs.

      • Jaded says:

        @Tessa – Charles was pressured into marrying Diana by his own father, who sent him a letter advising him that it was time to make a decision — propose to her or let her go. Even Camilla encouraged him to propose.

        By the time Edward VIII married Wallis Simpson he had abdicated the throne because he and Wallis were blatant Nazi sympathizers and believed that appeasement was the only way out of a war with Hitler. Furthermore, he had become completely obsessed with her and she was the only woman he’d ever wanted to marry.

        It is always incumbent on the successor to the throne to produce heirs and Diana was a socially appropriate brood mare with no previous boyfriends and her virginity intact. I’m sure Charles found her charming and attractive at first but as her star rose his jealousy rose along with it. They had nothing in common but blue blood and that wasn’t enough to sustain a happy marriage of two opposites.

    • aftershocks says:

      @Amy Bee: “I do wonder if Harry used to tell the family that he was never getting married…”

      Harry has always expressed wanting to have a family. He just knew it would be very difficult to find someone suitable whom he also loved, who would be willing and capable enough of taking on such a huge burden as marrying into the royal firm. From his own words in interviews and documentaries, I think Harry hoped to be able to find someone he could be friends with who would also be strong and courageous enough to embark on such a life with him.

      Both of his more high profile girlfriends said, ‘Peace out,’ to a royal fishbowl life. A third little known aristo Harry was involved with for 3 months, fled back to her former boyfriend when the tabs got wind they were dating. It made sense that Harry was determined to protect any new relationship after these experiences. I bet he worked out a plan with his RPOs before he ever met Meghan. He often said he wanted to ensure he had the chance to get to know the next person he dated seriously, before anything leaked out to the media. Luckily for Harry and Meghan, Harry’s under-the-radar plan worked beautifully.

      I doubt Harry ever said he didn’t plan to marry. But I’m sure he never expected to find Meghan, a gorgeous, smart, accomplished woman/ soulmate beyond his dreams. I give Harry kudos for recognizing and admitting that Meghan is someone he had to ‘up his game’ for.

      On the other hand, it’s highly likely that Kant, Won’t, and the ratchet rota clowns hoped Harry would remain a juvenile bachelor propping up them and the institution for the rest of his days.

      • lanne says:

        The hype around who Harry dated was so bad that a woman he met at a bar and hung out with one night in the US had an uncomfortable week or so when the tabloids descended on her, trying to get her to talk about her “date” with Harry. When she wouldn’t talk, they talked to her family, friends, anyone who would talk to them, and in the end, made up stuff about her. Finding a wife seemed nearly impossible because the media simply would not let anyone who got near him alone. It probaby spooked a lot of women who he may have connected with.

        I think that, with all the pressure they put on any potential girlfriend of Harry, they assumed he would marry a flighty fame-obsessed lightweight that they could chase off. Harry’s love life is literal sport for the ratchets

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      @Amy Bee, I don’t believe Charles was an equal partner in the smear campaign. He’s guilty because he did nothing to stop it and he’s done nothing to show support/or understanding – which is a great weakness and could be perceived as an equal partner in complicity. It’s hard to say. In a number of ways Charles seems to be more evolved/intellectual/open minded than William. Charles appears to follow, foolishly, the rules, for the most part, ascribed by the Firm. William seems to follow his owns rules and has backing from the grey men. Could be wrong. All I now is that the BRF/BM are handling everything in the worst way possible and that the “sources” and headlines imply the monarchy is devolving instead of modernizing. The rotas and “experts” are not helping the situation.

    • ABritGuest says:

      Nah Amy Bee, Harry has spoken openly about wanting a family in interviews. He said in a sky interview he has longed for kids since he was really young but that he needs to meet someone up for a job. And articles talking about Charles vision of a slimmed down monarchy which included Harry also talked about his family.

      As Lacey said when the book was initially released- they were expecting Harry to marry a ‘nice country girl called Annabel’ etc not ‘this bombshell’.

      I think the firm& William were fine with idea of Harry marrying. the issue with Meghan was probably that 1) Meghan showed up Kate- that’s why she was told to dim her light 2) Harry WITH Meghan were overshadowing the heirs 3)his relationship (and possibly treatment of Meghan) resulted in Harry not being the company man as much which the firm didn’t like eg courtiers would have encouraged Harry to give press access to Meghan & he said no 4) Meghan probably stood her ground on things like the cookbook. I’m convinced KP would have been against the project with William meant to be the Grenfell hero & with neither him/Kate having a solo project under their belt at that point. Probably letting Jason’s friend Melissa go also caused upset. I’m sure these were regarded as challenging William’s authority & not understanding how monarchy works (ie letting the heirs shine).

      I think this talk of needing Harry is because the Cambridges don’t have the history of having the best work ethic& they aren’t as great with connecting with people. Lots of press pre Meghan said Harry was Diana’s true heir & likes of Piers Morgan
      said he would be a better king. Harry was doing the charm tours that really the future king should have been doing eg his Caribbean tours. That’s why the queen is doing Scotland with Bill next week. The firm just doesn’t have that many great assets & theres only so much propping up the press can do.

  21. Nina says:

    My guess is that William is unwell and royal reporters know it. Whether it’s some type of mental health issue or physical issue but Will looks sickly and unfit to rule. I bet Lacey is insinuating something like this and for that reason he thinks Will “needs” Harry to rule, or he won’t be able to rule at all

  22. TabithaD says:

    I think the reason is that William can’t do it on his own. He’s simply not up to the job, either temperamentally or in terms of work ethic/diplomatic skills. Before Harry met Meghan, W+K were getting quite a bit of negative press about their laziness and lack of connection with the public. I think in time the press will turn on him again. Some of them are already hinting they’d like to.
    I think the Firm and courtiers are aware that William will not be a good king, hence all the desperate attempts to big him up. Oddly, I think we forget that anyone living in the UK today has only ever known the Queen and (for older people) George VI, and both are/were well regarded. I think even Charles may still do OK, because he has at least worked and has shown dedication to his causes/written books etc., although his reign will be short.
    But William has absolutely nothing to show for the last 20 years (don’t get me started on that Earthshot Prize thing, what a joke), and stories have been circulating forever about his terrible temper, his haughtiness, his drinking, affairs etc.
    When Harry was still around, at least William could piggy-back on some of Harry’s initiatives and bask in some of the reflected glory.

  23. Catherine says:

    They have been using Harry as a scapegoat and a prop for William for most of their lives. Everybody knows it. They know William is arrogant do-nothing and they all are in a panic about what will happen if he doesn’t have Harry around. As for Charles, like the Queen at the end of the day he is going to protect the monarchy which means protecting William. Also, he probably thought he could finally get William firmly supporting him after years of William barely concealing his disdain for his father.

  24. Rapunzel says:

    Said this yesterday, and I’ll say it again because I think it explains why Harry is so needed

    My tin foil tiara theory:

    Wills is tired of Kate, and Kate knows it. She had Louis as an attempt to strengthen the marriage, but it didn’t work. She’s disliked and been jealous of Meg from the get go because Meg is the things Wills is mad at her for not being: poised, well- spoken, articulate, competent. Meanwhile, Wills doesn’t want Meg and Harry marrying because he sees his control of Harry slipping away. He does not like Harry putting Meg first. Hence he had “concerns” about her and tried to prevent the marriage. They were racist sounding but may have just been concern trolling, whatever.

    Kate tried to help stop the wedding in her own way, hence the crying incident. But wedding went through. Gears shifted to making her a degree wife. Both Kate and Will worked on that through staff, hence the Sussexes leaving KP. But the pregnancy/Oceana tour got the smear campaign in overdrive with the Cambridges seemingly having a better marriage (or so Kate thought) cause they were working together against Meg. The goal: get rid of Meg and Archie. But then Wills, unknown to Kate, would kill two birds by getting rid of Kate too, as she’d get blamed for the smears on Meg.
    The whole plan was Will wanting Meg and Kate gone so he could be King with Harry as his whipping boy. It all backfired, with Sussexit. Will is pissed, blames Kate. Wants out even more, but now no chance cause Harry was supposed to get divorced first and lay the groundwork, giving Wills precedent and a bus to throw Kate under.

    Chuck and TQ are just inept and it’s all a mess. Kate is desperate, but Wills is digging her grave…these embiggening articles are doing the work for him.

    So now, Wills is really preparing to offload Kate, and needs Harry for his eventual reign as POW and King. It’s why they won’t stop harassing Meg, while itching for Harry’s return sans Meg. Harry is the only one they trust to keep Wills from ruining everything. RRs know and are low key demanding the BRF force a band-aid on the rift between the brothers.

    My thoughts

    • swirlmamad says:

      I think I said on your original post too that this is not even that farfetched and I could certainly see this scenario being the case to some extent or another. Problem (for W) is that Harry is done playing that game. He’s doing the work on himself, seen the light and will never let himself be manipulated by William like that ever again, so William and his dastardly plans are set up for failure. Too bad so sad.

      • Rapunzel says:

        Swirlmamad- Harry is definitely done, and is only gonna come in for situations he feels strongly about, like Phil’s funeral. He will never go back to being scapegoat. He doesn’t need to.

        I think Notasugarhere is right when said about that Wills simply cannot handle Harry being free and happy and successful on a global stage- especially if he (Wills) isn’t. Wills reminds me a lot of my own older sister. It’s just the two of us siblings and we are about the same age apart. My sister has always thought I should cater to her whims, do whatever she insists (when she insists), and has always been jealous, thinking my life is easier than hers and that I’ve always gotten what she should have. For no reason.

        I suspect nearly everything related to Sussexit comes down to this dynamic between Will.and Harry, especially the stuff post-Sussexit.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        swirlmamad & Rapunzel, it seems I’ve read posts here in the past that Harry is about the only one who isn’t afraid of W? It seems that he will got toe to toe with W and not back down. That may be the part of the dynamic that everyone else believes is needed.

      • swirlmamad says:

        Saucy&Sassy, exactly. That’s also why I’ve been in support of Harry attending the unveiling. Harry is not going to back down from William and let him think he has “won” ever again. He’s not going to just hang out in CA and let W do whatever the hell he wants to him, and certainly not to Meghan. He’s going to stand tall, look his brother in the eye and say “no more, not ever again.” But — he is also not going to uproot his life and family and go back to that hell just so he can hold his brother accountable when everyone else is too cowardly and lazy to do it.

    • Nic919 says:

      Louis happened because William was caught doing the dad dancing months before and Kate finally got leverage to have the third child she wanted when he wanted to stop at two. The price she paid though was that the affair with Rose stepped up while she was pregnant with Louis and she found out some time before she made Meghan cry.

      Also I would add that William got even more fed up with Kate when he saw just how good Meghan was at speeches and getting media attention, which then went to Harry as well. Meanwhile William had an albatross who he knows is only propped up by sycophantic UK media and ten years in she won’t get better. His cringing during her speech in Pakistan is particularly obvious (though to be fair to him she was awful).

      • swirlmamad says:

        Even the recent speech when they were just in Scotland — he’s looking like he’s sucking a lemon and up at the sky, the ground, the crowd, everywhere but at her. In contrast every time Meghan made a speech, the love and admiration radiating off of Harry was palpable. But they’ll keep telling us how in love W+K are. Give me a friggin’ break.

  25. Tessa says:

    Lacey is causing a lot of the problems IMO with his going on about the Meghan “bullying” allegations and his giving “William’s story.”

  26. Lowrider says:

    The institution does not need Harry but the media does. They will lose out on a lot of cash. No more photos of Harry and Meghan attending events, no photos of Archie and Lili. They can still print their stupid stories but only low intelligent people would believe them.

    Bill will never accept Meghan with or without Kate in the picture. He will always trash and undermine Meghan whenever possible. Especially if he believe Meghan “stole” Harry from him… what a weirdo!

  27. NotSoSimpleTaylor says:

    I’m beginning to believe that William has only done what his father has told him to do regarding Harry. Either way, I’ll be genuinely surprised if the monarchy lasts after Elizabeth.

  28. Snuffles says:

    Either William is physically or mentally ill and can’t do the job. Or he’s got so many horrible secrets that the tabloids are sitting on in exchange for dirt on Harry and Meghan that they are terrified the damn will break and all of it will be exposed and the monarchy will come crashing down.

  29. Maria says:

    I don’t think William is mentally ill and that’s why people are concerned.

    I think he wants a divorce and needs Harry’s magnetism for PR to offset it.

  30. Robin says:

    Someone up thread said they thought William could be ill. I have been thinking for some time that Charles looks unwell, and his potential illness could be loading more pressure onto William. Having thought about it more, I think the poster could be right: William could be on the edge of some kind of mental breakdown. He is raging; his wife seems to want to leave; his affairs are coming to light; his wife looks ill; the weight of the monarchy is on him; and the press seem to have some major leverage on him.

  31. L4frimaire says:

    At a certain point, I wish Lacey would just STFU.

  32. pottymouth pup says:

    If a reconciliation between brothers is an absolute must, as Lacey is suggesting, that can only mean that they’re afraid that without a reconciliation things Harry & Meghan know about William, and have evidence to prove may eventually come out. If this is the case, the info has to be really bad to the point the public will turn on William big time

    • lanne says:

      in that case, these people must be absolute morons if they think that pouring gasoline on a fire is a way to put it out. Poke Harry hard enough and I think he’ll dropsome serious receipts. He knows all. They should be wishing him well and placating him.

  33. Nina says:

    They need Harry back because by leaving he blew up the myth of how special the royal family is. If someone born into that flees it, what does it say to outsiders? No amount of PR can fix the perception created by Harry leaving. That’s why they need to destroy him if he doesn’t come back.

    • lanne says:

      Isnt that how cults work? don’t you measure a cult by how difficult it is to leave it?

  34. Christine says:

    I will not recognize this level of royal bs as anything other than fairies flying out the bottoms of trolls protecting a secret garden, because that is exactly what it is.

    “Charles is “shellshocked by it all,” a friend tells PEOPLE exclusively in this week’s issue. “He is very hurt and upset [by the ongoing fallout].”

    Charles is shellshocked by nothing, he fled England after Philip’s funeral, and stupidly made it very clear to the press who was there that he was leaving rather than acting like a grown up who should probably care if his sons are now locked in battle. We never would have known Charles was even there, the day after the funeral, except for his big dumb mouth. But whatever, Scotland is amazing, I would like to be there now, rather than reading this….utterly brain dead regurgitation from whoever is in Charles’ camp thinking he should look upset by his kids hating not only him, but each other.

  35. Rai says:

    I’m not surprised that William needs Harry’s presence to be an effective king. Harry is his soul mate. The ying yang effect. Its pretty typical with siblings who only have each other
    He married a pretty but dull girl who fit in perfectly as their 3rd. It made being trapped in a life he didn’t choose easier to deal with; but then Harry met Meghan.

    And no amount of media, money, title or adoration will ever fill that loss. And it’s very sad to see, especially since it didn’t have to be this way.

  36. Chelsea says:

    Robert Lacey is as infuriating as Tim Shipman in that they write about how horrifically Meghan was treated and talked about y courtiers, and William and Kate and then turn around and chastize her for speaking of how she didnt feel protected by the Firm. Lacey literally said that courtiers called Meghan unhinged and damaged goods but then he turns around calls her self-pitying. Tim Shipman wrote an entire article about how William wanted her as far away as possible and the courtiers were working to try to exile her to Africa when she was 9 months pregnant but then he criticized her for not “respecting” the institution ahead of the Oprah interview. WTF is wrong with these white men that they really think Meghan should just take horrific treatment silently and not be able to defend herself? F**k both of them.

    Harry defending his wife against abuse that literally almost killed her is not being petty or being in a feud was his brother; it’s him doing his job as a husband and father. I know the Windsors have never done that job so I get why they and their mouthpieces in the press are confused.

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      The BRF (moreso William & courtiers/grey men) and the BM are complicit and in conflict with each other. Harry’s been the guy. Good guy. Bad guy. Ameniable guy. Charistmatic guy. Hard working and respected by his fellow soldiers. Always known as a likeable, charismatic guy. Uhmm, errr, not traits applied to William. The best William had was that once upon a time ago, he was good looking. And, William has unnamed “friend/friends” speaking out. Nothing says certainty like an unnamed “friend”.. Meghan has high profile people of all colors going on record speaking out on her behalf. Yea, right, Harry & Meghan are the problem. My inclination is often to reference a movie..so many movies, so little time. Today is The Negotiator, (quoting anything that comes from a Kevin Spacey character makes me leery, but damn, if he hasn’t had quotable characters, Chris Sabian was a good character.). “I can’t believe this, I’m just surrounded by a room full of people who wanna go in there and kill him. This is the guy who you call friend. I got nothing invested in this. I wonder why that is, or maybe someday we’ll find out.”.

    • MissySnow says:

      It does not matter how badly MM or Diana was treated by the monarchy, they’re suppose to take it and move on. The Royal family, courtiers and media learned squat after Diana died and think they can still throw the same filth at MM and PH.

  37. Trudy says:

    This is one of the most chronicled families in the world and there is a LOT of history of mental illness from King George III to the cousins that were hidden and institutionalised.

    Maybe this is the reason Harry is pushing Mental Health so much and being OPEN with his own struggles so that … others could avail themselves of getting help.

    Meghan early on straight up told Harry to get into therapy… maybe she suggested it to William too…

    The Firm’s courtiers create a co-dependance with the senior royals… they want them to be damaged because they can manipulate them easier… and keep their jobs… and have favours.

    All of this fawning over Keen is not because they like her… it is PURE GROOMING, like a predator grooms a child with sweets, they just use positive coverage. I am sure that now Keen doesn’t make a step without consulting the courtiers/RR (same thing).