Duchess Kate ‘didn’t mind’ waitying all over again for years after she got married

The Duchess of Cambridge visits the University of Derby

Apparently, Britain’s Channel 5 made a documentary called Kate: Our Queen In Waiting. I have not seen the mess and I would assume it only aired in the UK. I hope they eventually run out of titles for all of these Kate-centric documentaries until they just have to name documentaries sh-t like Kate’s Keen Wait To Be Kween and The Future Future Queen, Maybe. In this doc, there were various royal commentators talking a lot of revisionist history sh-t about Kate, Meghan, Kate’s Waity years and more. Emily Andrews, Katie Nicholl and Victoria Murphy all contributed and I guess it’s worth discussing some of this:

Emily Andrews on how Kate tried to “help” Meghan: ‘Kate did try as much as possible as she entered the royal fray. She said, “If you want me to put you in touch with any fashion designers that I know of course I can.” Katie Nicholl: ‘Kate of course then invited Meghan to Wimbledon with her, they went to the polo together,’ royal journalist Katie Nicholl said.

Why did it take Kate years to “carve out a role” in the royal family: It took years for the Duchess of Cambridge to carve her own royal role, and with the support of her husband, she spent years studying what was expected of a Queen-in-waiting before stepping up to the plate with confidence. ‘Kate has taken a very long time to concretise her role within the royal family,’ Bidisha said.

Andrews on Kate’s vagueness: ‘I think perhaps in the past, there had not been much to say about what the Duchess of Cambridge stood for,’ Emily Andrews added. ‘The flip side of her being very cautious, not wanting to kind of rush into anything, has meant that some people have questioned “Well, who is she, what does she stand for, what is she doing?”’

Katie Nicholl on Kate’s research: ‘When Kate married into the royal family, she made a point of really doing her research. She wasn’t at all afraid to go across Buckingham Palace and speak to courtiers and advisors and to get their advice. She didn’t want to make mistakes and if that meant being accused of being “Waity Katie” again, all over again, she very much wouldn’t mind.’

Victoria Murphy agrees that there was an effort to not put Kate out there for years: ‘It would have been easy to jump in from the beginning when the interest was sky high and to take on lots of things, and put her out there in many different ways. But actually, what William and Kate did was that they wanted to build up very gradually for her to take time to grow in confidence, to grow in understanding, and for her to really build gradually a profile on the world’s stage.’

[From The Daily Mail]

True or false? “It would have been easy to jump in from the beginning when the interest was sky high and to take on lots of things.” Would it have been “easy” to, say, hit the ground running and actually get to work quickly after a decade-long wait for the ring? Is “easy” the right word? I think it would have been easier on everyone if Kate had strengths, interests, hobbies and passions outside of “getting the ring” and “taking vacations” and “making William happy.” She willingly went into the family as a blank slate. A very lazy blank slate. That was why Kate had her back up as soon as Meghan entered the picture. Here was Meghan, who loved to work, who was passionate and had so many interests and talents. And Kate suddenly realized how dull and useless she had been for years.

Personally, I think it’s hilarious that there’s all of this commentary devoted to how Kate is so regal and future-queeny because… she didn’t do much of anything (work-wise) for the first seven years of her marriage. Royal commentators should try “pulling a Kate” and just phoning it in or declaring that they will eventually be keen about Kate at some point.

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  1. EnormousCoat says:

    ‘build up gradually to let her gain in confidence’ – I’m sorry, but isn’t duty part of the job? And doesn’t duty start on day 1? This is hogwash and having to explain and excuse her laziness isn’t a good look. I’ve managed high school internship programs where we expected more and the students gave more. If I were a Brit, this would piss me right off.

    • The Hench says:

      I mean, it’s not even as though this is complicated or difficult work. She doesn’t actually have to organise anything, she can give instructions and other people do it for her and then she can turn up wearing a new Catherine Walker coat dress that looks exactly like all the others, chat with a few people, shake a few hands and go home again for her multi million pound income.

      To suggest that it could take someone seven years to get their head around this kind of job is utterly laughable.

      • Alexandria says:

        @hench it’s because she thinks too highly of herself and thinks she could be iconic like Diana. Bet she thinks boring bread and butter events are beneath her so called university education. She wants to be interesting, not boring and average royal like Anne and Sofiesta. Failed big time and overestimated herself. Embarrassing.

      • The Hench says:

        @Alexandria – I’m sure you’re right, she does want to be a second Diana. But as far as I’m aware she literally launched nothing until trotting out the half thought through early years stuff once Megan had come on the scene. So it’s not even as though she was taking time to put an equivalent of Diana’s work with the Halo Trust etc in place. And I remain convinced that Heads Together was all Harrys idea and work behind-the-scenes

      • equality says:

        She probably doesn’t even give the instructions. She more likely follows them.

      • Elizabeth Regina says:

        Another bit of damage control. Waity the lazy of lazyhamshire has been put on the scale and found seriously wanting. You cant make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @The Hench, ita about Heads Together.

        We have excuse making now for years of lack in duty, service and projects due to learning about being a queen-in-waiting? As if she wouldn’t have time in between doing things to learn. The Queen was/and still is (last I checked) very much alive. Kate’s father-in-law, who is next in line, was/and still is very much alive. Why would she need to spend all that time learning be a queen-in-waiting right away? This is comedy gold.

        Explaining away why Kate did not have a completed solo project before Meghan did. Might be mistaken, but I don’t believe William did either before Harry & Meghan.?

      • equality says:

        @AGreatReckoning I think the only big project Will has done is the EarthShot prize thing and he gave himself an escape hatch on that. I’m surprised he didn’t try to horn in on Sentebale or Invictus. Makes me wonder if Harry purposely excluded him from those or he didn’t have any interest.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @equality, I believe a number of things are true. Harry wanted to do his own things and knew William probably wouldn’t be interested in the first place. But, yea, I’m guessing Harry didn’t share everything he was working on for a reason. Sentebale was co-founded with Prince Seeiso of Lesotho. Considering that I believe William is the one who made the color comments, and Harry knows his brother, asking William to do actual charitable work or support for POC(unless it’s soccer/football), just doesn’t seem likely to me. Harry definitely is the Better Brother. This is a nice article. The comment that Harry is one big child basically, reads to me not as a maturity level, but a playful spirit who can see the world through children’s eyes as an adult.
        https://www.cbsnews.com/news/prince-seeiso-of-lesotho-friendship-prince-harry/

      • smlstrs says:

        @ Agreatreckoning, fully agree with you with how ridiculous this is!

        Also, for The Firm and the Rota: just curious, does William or Kate have a completed solo project now …? Earthshot hasn’t done a round of awards yet and doesn’t seem to be getting any coverage (if there’s any momentum, it’s all out of sight since the announcement, as far as I can tell).

        And Early Years was announced as an interest and now a research center, with the survey in the middle… yet in my work, a survey like that would be a project phase, probably to establish the project or to assess the project’s impact, but not a project itself (and even depth projects are expected to be completed in under 2 years, including survey phases, so… most people I work with could do at least 2-3 in the 7 years before Meghan showed up and ruined things / s ). For example, if one wanted to design a capsule collection and see where interest and needs are before doing the designs, or see what people waned in a recipe book or in a publication, with the collection, recipe book or magazine being the actual project. So this may be my bias, but I never really considered it its own project, which would leave Kate with… promoting the portrait book … ?

        At best, I’d say they have… started… two projects … and promoted a few others… in their whole careers … ?

    • Marie says:

      @Alexandria – I think the precise reason Kate was eventually chosen to be the FFQ is that she’s nothing like Diana. The BRF didn’t want another charismatic, empathetic married-in who wanted to do a lot of work and connect with the people. That’s part of why they wanted Meghan out so quickly. What they wanted was a silent, obedient, dull woman with no other goal in life but to be married to the FFK and bear his heirs. They got that in Kate. The only thing that sparked public interest in her in the early years (ha) was that she wore nice clothes and had pretty hair.
      Meghan, like Diana, made it more evident that the BRF could be more relevant and connected to the people and now the BRF are in a conundrum: how to make Kate seem like she’s useful without having another Diana on their hands.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Marie, but do you think that they also expected her to take off a decade or two before working? Diana was very young, but she got to work. That’s what they should have done with Keen. No one will be able to tell me that Keen would EVER have become a Diana double. She simply doesn’t have the ability or charisma. That was Meghan.

        I don’t think this has anything to do with H&M. This is the brf and their poor choices. They should have made W&K work way earlier, and they both (perhaps) would have better work habits by now. Good luck with making something of her now. I haven’t seen anything different. Why doesn’t someone sit that woman down and make her LEARN about one of her charities? It doesn’t take a genius.

      • Betsy says:

        I don’t think they thought that far in the future. I think it was as has been discussed – no one else wanted the gig, so it was the last woman standing that got it.

        They really did want someone who would work and do the events, and they didn’t get that.

      • dollycoa says:

        I agree with you. That’s why William had her hanging around for so long. To see how much crap she would take. I don’t think they even cared that she was lazy. They just wanted a clothes horse and a brood mare who would put up and shut up, and that’s what they got. They made the mistake with Charles and Diana of going for a young girl, thinking they could just beat her into submission but she grew up, so they kept a young girl hanging around waiting for years until she became the victim of the sunken costs fallacy, she’d wasted her twenties sitting around waiting for William to marry her while he had fun for so long that she has to just put up and shut up now. She hasnt developed any interests or personality outside looking good and keeping fit, popping out babies and doing the Royals bidding.

      • Tessa says:

        I think Will was waiting for “someone better” to come along, hence the cooling off periods and the breakup. I don’t think he was “testing” Kate. If someone returned his interest, Kate would have been History. Kate also waged that campaign to win him back, wearing shorter skirts and seen clubbing with other men (the media had a weekly report on this). Carole probably put a guilt trip on William, oh Kate is so DEVOTED to you. It would break her heart if you don’t want her.

      • Maria says:

        I don’t think it was that deep, honestly. As we can see, these people aren’t good at critical thinking. And there were leaked stories about the Queen wondering what Kate did all day which is why Kate half-heartedly did that Jigsaw job for like three months.
        Kate was just the one who hung on the longest who had the best chance. And I’m sure there was something to do with Will inheriting some money if he married. Path of least resistance. He didn’t even have to pick out and buy a new engagement ring this way. And yes, the role of her family was huge. Carole patched up a lot of their rough spots and was his surrogate mom who’d always support him. Of course, we see how it turned out.

  2. lanne says:

    That empower? Nekkid. Just nekkid. Catching a breeze. No clothes. I love the challenge, Kaiser. Let the ratchets pull Kates on their own jobs. Let the stans pull Kates in their own jobs, and see how much that is appreciated. The jokes are writing themselves at this point.

    • lanne says:

      *emperor

    • Yup, Me says:

      Agreed. It’s all a fake. They are entirely about image and fluff and no substance.

      In that same vein – I love Kate’s “Workin 9 TO 5” pic. It’s so “take your kid to work” day- only she’s the kid and she’s playing with her mom’s office phone. Very Marie Antoinette and her milk maid antics.

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        Yeah, the blank papers in the basket. The blank paper on the desktop. Holding the pen in her left hand when she’s right-handed. The row of matching book covers (that are probably blank inside). The business outfit from a 1981 J.C. Penny catalogue. It’s all a joke. One big joke played on the British public.

      • Theothermia says:

        @YUP,ME

        Lmao I forgot Marie Antoinette used to do that shit 🤣 the milk buckets were made of solid silver and she hired “picturesque” poor people to surround her.

        There was a Chinese emperor who had a village built to “play beggar” in.

        Royals have always been nuts.

      • Maria says:

        (The Marie Antoinette thing is not true. The whole point of her private retreat was simplicity away from all the diamonds and etiquette. Naive and ill advised but she certainly never pretended it resembled anyone’s real life, although she paid for the farmers and dairy workers to live there instead of having to trek off the grounds. Ironically she did more charity work than Kate ever has done. Can’t speak for the Chinese emperor though).

  3. girl_ninja says:

    Uninteresting, dull and lazy is her legacy so far. In her younger years, she didn’t have to work hard and she chose not too. She hasn’t changed that mindset.

    • LaraK says:

      This is why the cookbook was the nail in Meghan’s coffin as far as the RF was concerned. It was so effortless, classy and impactful. In one fell swoop she showed Kate’s “work” is stupid and that frankly it’s not that hard to do something with your platform.

      Kate had a decade and did nothing with her platform. Meghan outdid her in her first project. Ouch.

      • Ginger says:

        And right before the cookbook launch, Becky English had the story of Kate having a project coming up on the early years. You can tell it was thrown together quickly because of Meghan. Kate was hoping to coast her way until she became Queen Consort. She had no desire to work or come out with projects. Her early years work is a joke. You can tell she has zero passion for it.

        And it’s funny how Emily Andrews used to write about how lazy and dull Kate was. Her report on their India Tour was very scathing. Now, being lazy and dull is totally fine. As long as your white.

      • Merricat says:

        +1, LaraK

      • MJM says:

        @Ginger Kate’s early years project is a complete and utter fraud born of a need to compete with Meghan. All she is doing is creating instances for pr purposes – there is no actual work being done. What I find laughable though is the fact the William can’t even be bothered creating a fake project for pr purposes. He just rages incandescently I guess.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @Ginger, yep. Meghan’s cookbook event was Sept. 20, 2018 and it was Sept. 15, 2018 Kate’s project was announced. I’m sure it was just a “coincidence”.

      • Nic919 says:

        I bet Sept 15, 2018 is when Kate and Carole were first advised of the cookbook, hence the rushed Becky English article about saving England’s broken kids Friday evening.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @Nic919, You are giving Kate/Carole & Will too much credit in the thinking dept. They needed at least a day or 2 to huff and puff before coming up with something. I believe KP waited to post the video announcing Meghan’s event deliberately until after Kate’s “project” anouncement-the 17th I believe is when Meghan’s video was posted/made known.

        Laughing again at the recent duplicate announcements to announce a big project from Kate-the research center.

  4. Alexandria says:

    A lot of explaining and excuses as usual.

    • taris says:

      the commentary around kate always seems so forced and disingenuous. non of these people can even fake real enthusiasm for her.
      and yeah, there’s a ton of revisionist history about her earlier years. it shouldn’t fucking take TEN YEARS for a person to figure out what their platform (or personality, for that matter) is.

      she would have happily stayed sitting around at anmer all this time if meghan hadn’t come around.
      tsk.

      • Amy Too says:

        I’m actually getting a bit of a “Catherine the Great” Tattler article vibe from these excerpts. Something that is supposed to be complimentary to Kate and illustrate to us how wonderful and Queenly she is, but really, all of the quotes and all of the examples of her greatness, are pretty backhanded. The way that they’re bringing up all of the “Waity Katie” criticism, and Duchess Dolittle, lazy, dim, uninterested, slow to start criticism, supposedly so that they can justify why she was actually right all along, is interesting. Like they want to reintroduce all of these criticisms to 1) remind everyone that no one really liked Kate that much before because she was such a failure to launch and can we please go back to those talking points? and, 2) make sure that any new royal watchers and Kate stans who only started watching when Meghan came around, are made aware of her past and caught up on all the past Kate criticism.

        It’s sort of like when Lacey brought up how she is absolutely trustworthy and fully vetted by William and the family because of their extended courtship, by describing, in minute detail, how she obsessively stalked him for years and built her entire life around what he was doing. People weren’t talking about how she had been proven trustworthy because they dated for 10 years, people—including people who were too young to remember it as it was happening or just weren’t paying attention then—were talking about the creepy stalking.

        They’ve made her seem quite infantile, lazy, stupid, pointless, and vague. No one knows what she stands for because she stands for nothing. The first things that come to mind when she thinks about what kind of help Meghan might need is clothing and going to sports games. She didn’t capitalize on the initial interest and now interest has waned considerably. She’d rather do nothing than risk making a mistake. She’s void of character and void of personality and void of interest or curiosity in what is meant to be her life’s work. She doesn’t come off well in these excerpts.

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  6. Scorpion says:

    Oh look revisionist history….

  7. Nomegusta says:

    It has come to our attention that Catherine has severed all ties with self-respect and some speculate they were never acquainted to begin with.

    We have received a response from the Duchess, but due to her refusal to stop mumbling, our linguistics team is struggling to make it out.

  8. iforget says:

    I would LOVE to have a job where I could spend 10 years preparing and god knows how many more years easing my way in for fear of making a mistake. I could get so much done in my personal life if I knew I didn’t have to try at my job and wasn’t going to be held accountable for ‘reasons’

    • Myra says:

      For a person who eased her way into the job to the extent that was nicknamed Duchess Dolittle, she sure put her foot wrong a number of times. I don’t know how many times we have seen her bare ass and heard her mumbled through speeches. She is the most underwhelming royal out of all of them.

      • iforget says:

        Exactly. She flashed her bare ass in my hometown (Calgary), she exploited a murdered woman and somehow escaped being arrested for protesting by less than an hour (Sarah Everard, in Clapham near where I live nowadays). She wore bright pink at the 9/11 memorial, she refused to correct the story about making Meghan cry but allowed KP to put statements out about her botox and hair extensions. She, an Art History degree graduate asked if Faberge Eggs are still made. Just.. agh. I get frustrated my tax money goes towards her but then I remember what my grandma used to say ‘when you marry for money, you work for every penny.’

      • L84Tea says:

        @iforget, don’t forget that time she visited a former concentration camp and wore a flowery dress like she was going to a garden party.

      • iforget says:

        Oh my goodness, I just googled the pictures. EVERYONE else is in solid, neutral/dark colours. She is literally wearing a garden tea dress. If that is all she is interested in (I don’t disparage a love of fashion), then she is horrible at it. Inappropriate at best, my gosh.

      • taris says:

        imagine if after 10 years of ‘prep’ all you had to show for it was a 5-question survey, some research center nobody’s ever seen the inside of, and the inability to speak for just a few seconds on the global stage without mumbling like a 3 year old.

      • swirlmamad says:

        @L84Tea, and didn’t she also wear bright hot pink to the 9/11 Memorial when they went to NY during their US tour several years ago? ‘Clueless airhead’ is too kind a term to describe her.

  9. ModeratelyWealthy says:

    Kate does not want to do much, so she will not do much because William wants her to do even less than him. In this aspect, they are perfect for each other.

    As for all this future Queen nonsense, it sounds a lot about compensating to me. Just like Heidi Klum situation, marrying Seal each year, trying to brainwash William she is “regal” might be what kills her in the end.

    Charles wants to slim down the RF so all the money can go into his pocket and William wants the return of a distant King who only occasionally deems to see the peasants- why work like a horse when you can just trim roses and get the Royal Rota to engage into glorious propaganda?

    Kate should wise up if she really wants that Crown and return to play little woman to William “statesman”

    • MJM says:

      I don’t buy the narrative that William is holding Kate back. He’s not worried about her outshining him because she has no charisma.

      • ModeratelyWealthy says:

        Disagree. William is not self assured enough not to feel threatened by women. You see what happened to Meghan. He is also duller than Kate tbh. Kate does have her buttons obsession, she was flashing her self away for a long time before she settled for her maniacal grim. These ” traits” can be sold as “personality” in Kate´s case because she is an insipid woman who lunches.

        William? Not even that. He is heir and yet he manages to be called ” The Other Brother”.

      • JT says:

        It’s not like William was stopping her from doing something. Girl did fuckall for a decade before they were married. She is doing squat now. What is she being held back from?

      • Kristin says:

        I agree, let’s stop pretending that Kate was some firebrand workaholic before she married William. He may not want to be overshadowed, but he’s not holding her back. History says that she’s always been lazy and it just happens that this quality doesn’t bother William. In fact, he’s the only royal as lazy as her, with just slightly larger engagement numbers.

      • Nic919 says:

        I think the Queen nailed it years ago when she said “but what does she do?”

      • Korra says:

        I think both things can be true — FFK is not secure enough to be with a hardworking, smart woman AND FFQ is lazy.

      • ModeratelyWealthy says:

        Sorry y´all, but when did I say Kate would like to work but William is holding her back? I said “Kate does not want to do much.” She does not want it. William wants her to do even less and in that, they are alike.

        What I was trying to say, and failed, is that Kate laziness is her strength in the eyes of William, and this whole business of, instead of actually working, spinning her laziness as some sort of “regal work ethic”, is obviously something William is growing weary of- the idea that her “part time” job is as important as William ” full time job” is not something he is selling.

        His whole PR is indeed ” Kate is fine , she takes care of the children” and he more and more wants to go out and do things without her. This is a very throwback thing, like William is a go getter, Kate is the peaceful, shy little woman at home. William likes that.

        But Kate´s PR?

        C.E:O
        Kingmaker
        Future Queen and her husband, Prince William.

        She is playing with fire. It is better for her to be known as lazy and face some public scrutiny she can forcefully counter with all these fluffy pieces and kids pics than pissing off the heir and risking not crossing the finishing line.

  10. TIFFANY says:

    So the only thing Keen could bring to the table when offering help to Meghan was the name of a fashion designer.

    Pretty much tells you everything you need to know about this revolutionary, doesn’t it?

    • iforget says:

      Exactly this. And why would a successful actress, who already had a contract with a designer (Reitmans I believe?) need assistance with fashion?

      • Elizabeth Kerri Mahon says:

        Meghan already had relationships with Roland Mouret and Misha Nonoo, not to mention a best friend who is a stylist, a capsule collection with Reitman’s, and she also knew Ralph Lauren’s PR rep in London. As for Wimbledon, I’m pretty sure that Meghan would have attended anyway because of Serena; they went together for the optics.

      • Amy Too says:

        I’m not liking the vibe I’m getting from any of these articles that mention how Kate so graciously helped Meghan by inviting her to go to Wimbledon (or polo) with her. Meghan is a royal in her own right. She had access to the royal box all on her own. She didn’t need Kate to bring her, or invite her to sit with her in the special seats. Subconsciously, their brains do not compute that Meghan is a “real royal,” who had equal access to things like the royal box at Wimbledon, and who doesn’t need to be invited or “allowed” to sit next to Kate. Pippa had to be invited and allowed, Meghan did not, but they always write it like “Kate invited Meghan to join her and Pippa in the royal box,” as if even Pippa has more of a right to be there than Meghan.

      • swirlmamad says:

        It’s the same old BS. Meghan didn’t need anything from Kate, except a little graciousness and friendship being in a brand new situation around people she had no clue about. F that noise, like Kate is some kind of serene white savior.

    • Lorelei says:

      And here I thought she was a Top CEO! Too regal and with a schedule so packed she has no time for such frivolous things as fashion.

    • Louise177 says:

      That’s what made me laugh. Kate’s big help was giving a working actress and friend of Serena Williams designers names and an invitation to Wimbledon.

    • Becks1 says:

      That stood out to me too! That was the most help she could offer? It says a lot about how she views her work. It’s about the clothes and nothing more.

    • Izzy says:

      And invite her to Wimbledon? Hmm. I wonder if Meghan could have been invited because she was, you know, part of the family or possibly *checks notes* friends with a global superstar tennis player.

    • Nic919 says:

      Kate doesn’t decide who sits in the Royal box and so pretending that Kate invited Meghan to Wimbledon is a joke. Meghan would have had an automatic right to attend once she was married in, just like all the other members of the family. Now Pippa needs an invite from Kate because as much as she pretends, she not a Royal.

      • Ginger says:

        Exactly. Kate never goes to the women’s matches. Only the men’s. It was just a photo op for Kate.

      • Sunday says:

        @Ginger “Kate never goes to the women’s matches. Only the men’s.”

        That alone speaks volumes, doesn’t it?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Meghan also said ‘not everything is as it appears’ related to Wimbledon in particular.

    • Deputy Dot says:

      That really made me laugh. The very idea of such a stylish and successful woman with her own blog needing fashion designer recommendations from Mumbles Buttons McCoatdress is hilarious.

    • taris says:

      whatever lies these ‘experts’ are spinning to make us believe kate was just always lovely to meghan, just remember miss keen brought meghan to tears just before her own wedding day and lied about it for years, and finding freedom reported that kate never really helped meghan in any meaningful way. plus, who can forget her icy mean girl performance at last year’s commonwealth ceremony?

      there may be pictures of them smiling at each other at wimbledon or at trooping the colour – but, hey, meghan said nothing is as it seems, so…

      • taris says:

        also, i guess this may be why we were hearing a few weeks ago that kate was “reaching out” to meghan after lili’s birth.
        it’s obviously BS, but you gotta admire her commitment to the peacemaker farce.

  11. Merricat says:

    Oh my word, who is the audience for this? Surely no one past the age of 9. Lol. This makes Kate sound like she’s a not very bright small child.

    • Lorelei says:

      This is only slightly less embarrassing than that article a few months ago when they told us she’s literally picking out her own clothes to wear. Like most of did by the age of 8 or 9.

    • Becks1 says:

      It makes her seem dull, lazy, and lacking in intellectual curiosity. All things we knew, but its kind of funny to see them try to put a bow on it.

    • Myra says:

      It’s propaganda at work, the royal edition. They reinforce the message of the great queen in waiting through videos, articles and magazine covers. They’ve presented an enemy to the mass so that the queen-in-waiting can be appreciated more in comparison. They whitewash her history so that her past mistakes can be ignored or glossed over. They ostracise anyone who doesn’t follow the party line, even if it’s an innocuous remark. Unfortunately, propaganda is effective and works well on adults who are either predisposed to hate, lack critical thinking or isn’t paying attention.

    • GraceB says:

      Well this is Channel 5. I don’t know anyone who watches anything on that Channel. Just about anything they produce, you know in advance isn’t going to be worth watching.

  12. Amelie says:

    Omg. This is so ridiculous. But I laughed pretty hard. Especially in the all the ways she offered MM assistance. That anyone thinks any of this makes Kate look good is just sad. Very sad.

  13. Aurora says:

    Kate invited Meghan to Wimbledon? Meghan had been attending Wimbledon & the US Open before she met Harry.

    Also, Kate offered to introduce Meghan to some designers? HA! Meghan attended NY fashion week and is friends with designers like Roland Mouret.

    There is literally nothing Kate could have offered Meghan that Meghan didn’t already have.

    • Nev says:

      WORD UP.

    • equality says:

      And they were together at the polo game? Have these people seen the pictures of that day?

      • MaryContrary says:

        And that polo game where Kate made ZERO attempts to hang with her sister in law or coo over newborn Archie? Like in a normal family where she might have even held the baby, brought her kids over to see him? They have got to be kidding that was Kate “reaching out.”

    • Robyn says:

      The ONLY thing she could have offered was advice on how to survive the viper pit, but well, the call would be coming from inside the house wouldn’t it?

    • Eurydice says:

      What’s more pathetic is that this was “as much as possible” as Kate could do.

    • Jay says:

      It seems a BIT late to try to claim credit for Meghan’s accomplishments after bashing her for years, but that’s just another #KateMiddletonSuccessStory.

  14. HeatherC says:

    And this is who the carnival of so called experts and British media think is a model of womanhood and a perfect queen in waiting. Someone who waits for a man to tell her what to do/how to be. I’m insulted on behalf of British women.

  15. Sunnyvale says:

    😂imagine thinking her inexperienced lazy a$$ would be getting praise/hype for this cringy fluff piece. If this is the best they could say about her , I can’t imagine what they’d call her if Meghan wasn’t around!!
    KeenKueen kate must be so exhausted with all this(probably paid for)praise. I noticed DM in particular are running MORE ads of her wardrobe,jewellery..et which highlights how they’re on kp payroll. I bet kitty demanded a bigger budget after sussexit & she’s using the money for 🐀rota on her payroll.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9737265/amp/Kate-Middletons-affordable-scalloped-cardigan-Boden-sale.html

  16. Lightpurple says:

    Future Queens don’t always get to be queen. Life happens.
    Divorces happen.
    Illness and car accidents happen.
    Abdications happen.
    Government changes happen.

    • The Duchess says:

      Revolutions happen. Lord knows the UK is long overdue one.

      • Alexandria says:

        The rota rat media system is keeping them alive too. They need royals to have fiction writing jobs and tv or book deals.

  17. BusyLizzy says:

    I was baffled when I lived in the UK that some people seemed to adore her and find her so amazing. She’s as interesting as a bedroom slipper.

    • lanne says:

      She’s the ultimate projection of the Good Girl. Pretty, thin, well-dressed, and most importantly, silent. She’s a blank slate that everyone can project their princess fantasies onto. She’s hardly seen, so there’s no (or very little) risk of gauche remarks, bad behavior. When she does speak poorly or behave in a way that isn’t “perfect princess” like, it’s covered up and buried.

      Meghan came to the RF a fully formed woman with a voice and with experiences. She was beautiful enough to be a princess, but black women, even white-presenting black women are viewed as sexual objects before all else—the girl on the side for an adventurous aristo.

      Kate has done nothing with her life except pursue William, and that fits the trope of a woman “giving all for a man, including her identity” and now that she’s a royal, she gets to live “happily ever after.” The royals exploit this princess mythology by controlling married in royal women, and insisting that they measure up to these ridiculous ideals. Kate can be used to show that being a “perfect woman” (pretty, thin, and silent) is possible, and something that women (white women) can aim for. They too, like Kate, can get a pedestal of their own, and be worshiped by a man if not by a country.

      It’s not surprising to me how many white women buy into this garbage. It’s been pushed onto them since childhood. It’s their “last preserve” of specialness, or it was until Harry chose Meghan. That’s my theory as to why some white women, especially conservative white women, hate Meghan so much and love Kate.

      • Nic919 says:

        I agree. And it’s also why they are wilfully blind to the obvious poor treatment by William in public because it would ruin their fantasy of the silent, thin, white girl getting it all. Because despite all the submission, Kate is not getting treated with respect by her husband. It’s all for nothing because he cannot hide his disdain for her anymore.

      • Shadowonfilm says:

        @LANNE, you have hit the nail squarely on the head. Absolutely right!

      • Moneypenny says:

        @Lanne, this is perfectly said and spot on. Pretty, thin and well dressed so they can project onto her.

      • lucy2 says:

        Exactly.

      • Theothermia says:

        @LANNE dang that’s a really insightful comment.

      • Fawsia says:

        I found that some progressive white women fall for this trope.

  18. L84Tea says:

    This is absolutely ridiculous excuse making. Diana was far younger than Kate was when she married Charles and only had minimal nanny working experience. And yet, she still jumped right in and did what she had to do and learned. For somebody who loves to cosplay her mother in law so much, she stupidly chose to ignore one of Diana’s greatest personal strengths–a solid work ethic. I’m embarrassed for Kate as a woman because she has all the help in the world–guides to teach her, nannies to care for her children, groundskeepers to keep her yard(s) spiffy, housekeepers to keep her houses clean, and she still manages to do absolutely nothing. She is pathetic.

    • Becks1 says:

      And by jumping right in and doing her job, Diana naturally found causes that were important to her and where she felt she could make a difference – how old was she when that iconic photo was taken of her with the AIDS victim? (the one where you can’t see the person’s face because the disease was so stigmatized.) She didn’t sit around for 10 years and think “hmm, what looks best for PR?” She just went out there and DID and in so doing became an icon.

      • Demi says:

        Diana had curiosity& was willing to work she figured that she could initiate change by bringing attention that was on her into causes& charities that need focus..
        Kate doesn’t have anything of that so the focus is superficial matters like her clothes ect..

  19. Andrea says:

    Honestly, I cannot imagine she has much energy for anything. She does not look healthy and must eat about 100 calories a day. Very sad.

  20. Jezz says:

    Those books on her desk! A handy reference in case you suddenly need to look up the invalid in The Secret Garden. Hahaha

    • Eurydice says:

      Yes, I had to laugh at how all the books are the exact same height, all bound in marbled paper and coordinated with the color of her outfit. Like when realtors buy “books-by-the-yard” to stage a property for sale.

    • notasugarhere says:

      They may have been the ones she picked up in the ‘trot the kids to the bookshop during a pandemic’ shopping trip.

  21. Belli says:

    There’s something tragically hilarious about Kate offering to put Meghan in touch with fashion designers when Meghan showed up ready to do the work.

    • Merricat says:

      It is hilarious to suggest that Kate could offer Meghan anything in terms of fashion and style.

      • Belli says:

        Exactly. That’s all Kate had to offer and Meghan was already ahead of her in that area.

      • Fawsia says:

        Loooool Is that why she is dressing like Meghan these days? I tell you these Karens. Girl bye.

  22. aquarius64 says:

    A puff piece that shows what a bucket of fluff Kate is.

  23. Lauren says:

    After 20 years she has done absolutely nothing but birth three kids. Those children are her only legacy because there is nothing else to remember her for. They can try to revision her history as much as they want, but Kate is what she has always been: a vapid mean girl interested in her family and herself and nothing else. She was like that as a teen, as a college student, and as a grown woman. I expect nothing else from her when she hits middle age.

    • TeamMeg says:

      She reminds me of Queen Elizabeth’s mum in that way, the late “Queen Mother” who may have had some passion projects, but never struck me as much of an activist type. This is Kate’s role and ambition: future Queen Mother. For now, she gets to shop as much as she wants, and wear crown jewels. Nice work if you can get it.

      • Nic919 says:

        The Queen Mum wasn’t a workaholic but she got credit for keeping the family in London during the blitz as a show of solidarity. And she was still doing more engagements per year than Kate has ever done. They were the bread and butter engagements but it was still more than the aspiring future future Queen Mum is doing.

        Also keep in mind that most of us only remember the Queen Mum as an elderly woman so at that point she wasn’t expected to do as much because Elizabeth and Margaret were handling engagements along with the younger cousins and her adult children.

        Kate isn’t even 40 and she’s doing less than a nonagenarian. Both compared to the Queen Mum in her time and the current monarch. Even Philip was doing more until the year he actually retired at age 95.

      • Fawsia says:

        Well, Queen mother lived 100 years ago. Times have changed and all of her European counterparts are dynamic, smart, and educated young women. They are speaking forums and doing important work on the globe. The entire house of Windsor are backward.

      • Wadsworth the Butler says:

        The Queen Mother didn’t know she was marrying the future King. Kate did, after a lengthy courtship, at a time when the expectations for the role were drastically different than they were in the 1920s.

  24. Maria says:

    These people are making even less sense than normal. “She didn’t want to make mistakes and if that meant being accused of being “Waity Katie” again, all over again, she very much wouldn’t mind.” How does doing research make her look like Waity Katie? Not that she did research of course but these talking points are turning to literal mush.

  25. Matthew says:

    Kate is SO helpful—>“If you want me to put you in touch with any fashion designers that I know of course I can.”

    • Maria says:

      LMAO, I love this bit, like Meghan wasn’t walking actual red carpets for years. She wasn’t A list but I guarantee she knew more than Net a Porter Kate.

  26. Sofia says:

    It does not take someone 7 years to learn how to cut ribbons and smile. The BRF truly made a mistake with the Cambridges regarding their work ethic. Charles* really should have pushed for them to do the “bread and butter” engagements from the start so they could see a wide variety of things and build interests from them and THEN launch projects based on said interests.

    * I say Charles should have done this but I have no idea if he actually pushed for it but W&K said no, we’re going to do nothing.

    • The Hench says:

      Diana’s death had repercussions in so many different areas. I remember that when William and Harry were teenagers there was much talk of how they needed to be treated carefully because of the death of their mother and also in particular that, given the manner of Diana’s death, Kate and William should be left alone to do their own thing and not pressured in any way. When they got married, the fact that they were allowed to do nothing was spun as a positive, that the Queen and Charles were giving them the space they needed. That kid glove handling alongside the entitlement with which the heir to the throne is invested has backfired big time and now we are left with this mess.

      • Sofia says:

        “That kid glove handling alongside the entitlement with which the heir to the throne is invested has backfired big time and now we are left with this mess.”

        100%. The BRF gave them *too* much space and here we are. And IMO overly cautious. The Cambridges doing 200 engagements a year was not going to kill them. William is a royal since birth, Kate was around for 10 years. They knew how the firm worked. In fact, one of the justifications they give for the “Waity” period is that Kate was learning how to be a royal and how William didn’t want her to end up like Diana. Yet she still needed more time after 10 years after marrying William.

      • equality says:

        They could still play that up though as giving them time to get their family going and nurture the FFFK.

      • Robyn says:

        This kid glove thing irks me to no end. Us peasants suffer tragedies every day damn and have to go back to work and carry on a day or two later (if we’re lucky) – not given decades to adjust. Our pain isn’t international news, but it’s just as life altering. I lost an immediate family member at William’s age and we’re the same age now…I don’t get to STILL use it as an excuse to be a lazy asshole.

      • Tessa says:

        I never bought into the excuses made for her. It was a false premise because Diana enjoyed her work, the marital difficulties bothered her not work.

    • equality says:

      You have a good point. They could have started her out on the small, easy stuff. That’s how most people start out in a firm anyway.

  27. Calibration says:

    Who knows where that top pic is from? She looks so sad. It’s unusual that she shows herself like that. Plus the lack of botox I guess as well.

    What’s there to say about this drivel? I hope they all get dragged for this bs.

    • L84Tea says:

      I might be wrong, but it may have been when they were in Paris? But I might be getting that dress confused with another red houndstooth she wore at some point.

      • Calibration says:

        Thanks L84tea. You know what’s super sad about that? She’s worn more than one red houndstooth

  28. JT says:

    Those RRs are fools. They’re going to be talking about Waity Katy Queen In Waiting for the next 20 years. How f*cking boring. They could’ve had the excitement of covering two very charismatic, hardworking people and now they stuck trying embiggen nothingness. They really fumbled the bag. And who needs whole ass documentary to say that Kate waits?

  29. AVEA says:

    Omg give this QUEEN the Nobel Peace Prize for offering to give Meghan designer phone numbers! Good Lord, doesn’t Emily Andrews realise how embarrassing that sounds? And they went to the polo together??????? Where? That one time they were standing right next to each other and didn’t talk at all? Bless her shiny helpful buttons, she should be canonized for all these amazing acts of kindness, Saint Kate of the Buttons

    • L84Tea says:

      Yeah, a polo match where Kate literally sat on the ground with her kids and ignored Meghan with a tiny baby in her arms. They really think we are stupid and forget that the internet is forever!

      • AVEA says:

        @L84TEA Exactly! If they really did have these moments where they’re trying to pass as I don’t know, Kate being a helpful little future future Queen? Kate trying to be friends with Meghan? Like, those moments would be literally everywhere. If they went to the polo together these people would still gush about her doing that, and how amazing of a mentor she was to Meghan

      • Ginger says:

        The RR’s and family are really shook that Meghan told the truth about Kate making her cry. They have the most pathetic examples of Kate being “helpful” towards Meghan. This is more proof that Kate was a mean girl towards Meghan. I have seen pictures of Kate interacting towards others in the RF at polo matches. She acted like Meghan and Archie weren’t even there.

    • TeamAwesome says:

      I can think of three times Meghan was at a polo match, once as girlfriend, with the white blazer on her shoulders, the polo baby match in that fab denim dress, and the infamous match where Kate iced her out.

      • MaryContrary says:

        And they were only together at the last one. Where they might has well have been at two different events since there was no interaction.

  30. Harper says:

    It seems as if Kate waiting is the narrative of her whole life. How cute will that be when she hits 50? How long will the fact that she sat around for her twenties be all anyone has to say about her?

    Also, does anyone here think she was actually popping into her research center in the past weeks? It’s all soccer, bike riding and Wimbledon. Shouldn’t she be busy researching? Shouldn’t we be suspecting she was exposed to covid through her research assistants instead of her hairdresser, which was one of the most popular guesses yesterday?

  31. Snappyfish says:

    Upstaging the heir certainly had dire consequences for Diana. She upstaged Charles & it pissed him off. The DofC knows William quite well & maybe she feared the same outcome. This IS the world of Hierarchy. You have a place & are expected to stay in your lane. Maybe it was easier to keep your head down & stay safe. Maybe she doesn’t want the limelight just the crown. Things aren’t black & white & I don’t think there was ever any ill will between the Duchesses.

    • L84Tea says:

      You must have missed that little “Meghan made Kate cry” tidbit that Kate benefitted from without ever bothering to correct in the press for a few years that turned out to be the other way around…it was in the news once or twice.

    • Lila says:

      The excuses made for Kate are just amazing! If Kate didn’t want the limelight, trust and believe, there wouldn’t be fiftyleven articles about how perfect she is, how she keeps William afloat, how she wears the pants in the relationship, how she doesn’t wear the pants in the relationship, how she’s such a hard worker with her five questions, how she can’t really work because she has three kids.

      Things aren’t black and white, but this whole situation is defined by that. Black = bad, woman with an agenda. White = good wife, never makes a mistake.

    • Merricat says:

      I think Kate has demonstrated time and again the ill will she bears toward Meghan.

      • Lila says:

        She has. Multiple times. But we’re supposed to think sweet Kate would never have those feelings.

    • Maria says:

      This has nothing to do with upstaging William. In fact there have been several times where it’s clear William forced her to go to events where she obviously planned to skip them. She’s lazy and cares only about her position. And she has demonstrated her ill will towards Meghan many times (notice how her family has spoken out against Meghan *several* times). She wore white at Meghan’s wedding, for God’s sake!

    • Sofia says:

      Kate 10000% benefited from the smear campaign of Meghan. She got the absolute best press of her life once a Meghan came onto the scene. Heck, she’s still getting the best press out of pretty much *all* of them, except maybe the queen.

      She may not have had any ill will towards Meghan (which I very much doubt) but she did benefit from Meghan’s character assassination.

      • Tessa says:

        Not everybody buys her spin. I sure don’t. Kate is all smoke and mirrors but has these adoring stans who say how PERFECT she is.

    • Nic919 says:

      Kate’s mother and uncle have openly criticized Meghan and there is no way that would happen if Kate bore no ill will toward Meghan. She’s clearly jealous of Meghan and has been from the start.

      • Tessa says:

        It is a major fail when Uncle Gary (who was arrested for knocking his wife unconscious) goes running to the press to trash Harry and Meghan.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @Tessa, It’s a major fail when Uncle Gary’s been running around blathering to anyone who will listen that KATE WAS BORN READY TO BE QUEEN! And, now, to have, “royal experts” say Kate has spent years learning to queen.

        Uncle G is probably still in his cups or coke after watching this documentary.

    • Ginger says:

      Kate made Meghan cry and then REFUSED to correct the story for 2 years. She lied about it and benefited from it for 2 years.

      It doesn’t take much to upstage William. I mean, it’s Prince William. It’s not like he is cute or even nice. He looks like a giant toe and is always incandescent with rage.

    • ABritGuest says:

      That’s what I don’t get. KATE, William& Harry were getting more press than Charles& Camilla for years. Harry& the queen were the most popular royals for years with seemingly no tantrums until Harry met Meghan. And Kate does overshadow William. She gets way more attention& positive press than he does. Her press is that she’s the jewel of the crown, the firm’s rock, lynchpin&kingsmaker. And so far the firm seems fine with that.

      Philip openly briefed for the Cambridges to step up so he can retire so revisionist history going on. I do agree with a poster that above that the firm was too lenient and too indulgent with the Cambridges over their schedule after they married which helped bring about the tension when Meghan arrived. Perhaps there wouldn’t have been issues if the Cambridges already had projects under their belt by the time Meghan launched the cookbook.

      Kate ignoring Meghan at the commonwealth day service, and Middleton mouthpieces briefing continuously on the tears story& how Kate was weary of her from the start suggests she did have ill feelings towards Meghan. Last year the press claimed she was too busy as a mother of 3 to help Meghan settle in so interesting they are now claiming she did help. It’s interesting that intro to designers, Wimbledon (both of which Meghan had access to before Harry as an actress & friend of Serena) & polo (where they didn’t seem to engage) is used to highlight Kate’s efforts.

      • Tessa says:

        I wish Charles and Camilla had before the cameras at commonwealth days openly welcomed the Sussexes and hugged Meghan. Charles inaction is disturbing.

    • Tessa says:

      Diana when she was 19 and very young made Charles jealous. He even made a snide comment on an engagement walkabout when he said I guess I”ll have to get used to seeing the backs of photographers when she’s around. Charles got jealous of the woman he supposedly loved enough to marry. Diana did nothing “deliberate” in those early years, she wanted to please Charles and his family. Had she not been popular she would have been complained about as being “distant.” It is all on Charles IMO not Diana. It was childish of him to get jealous, but he was brought up especially by his adoring Grandmother to be the center of the universe.

  32. Lila says:

    Honestly, I feel like they put out those articles just to make us laugh. Are we honestly supposed to believe Meghan, who is friends with Misha, Jessica, and Roland Mouret needed Kate’s help to be introduced to designers?

  33. Shannon says:

    Wow…just skip right over Camilla to someone who based on past life expectancy will not be Queen for at least 20 years. Where are the Camilla docs?

    • equality says:

      What I wondered. In terms of patronages and getting right to work on things, Camilla comes across far better and she seems to be getting more acceptance as the future queen. The main thing with Kate seems to be that they can compare her to Meghan and allude to competition. Camilla seems to have stayed well out of the drama concerning H&M. Even Sophie and Anne would make a better show if they made the program about the causes they represent.

    • Tessa says:

      Camilla who is older comes across as less lazy. But Camilla has the liability of being the “other woman” in Diana’s marriage. Charles spent $$$ to rehabilitate. There was already a documentary about Camilla some years ago when Charles was promoting her before their marriage. Penny Junor oddly backs the Cambridges and Camilla and derides the Sussexes and Diana. should William decide to ditch Kate, Junor would start writing books deriding her. Kate is not safe as Diana had found out.

  34. Robin says:

    Goodness. Are these articles meant to be funny? Years to carve out a role; years not being pressured; years of running over to Buckingham Palace for advice – the picture of Kate on the phone is probably her contacting the Queen’s staff for advice on how to set the microwave. She and her family should find this kind of article embarrassing: essentially, your daughter can’t do anything without years of input.

  35. Roo says:

    These hagiographic articles leave me so embarrassed for Keen. Imagine being 40 and having so little to show for yourself that reporters must canonize your offer of a phone number.

  36. Over it says:

    This is hilarious, like really. What exactly is this woman except a coat hanger for shinny buttons and a fertility plant for heirs and it’s spares.

  37. Jay says:

    Kate offered Meghan some of her “fashion contacts”? That just says so much about how much they underestimated Meghan, and also how Kate perceives her job.

    Meghan: So, I have lots of ideas, here’s my five year plan. What do you think I should tackle first?
    Kate: That’s sweet. Here, take this.
    M: Is this an events coordinator?
    K: No, it’s the name of the exclusive shop where I get my most tragic bespoke prairie wear and coat dresses. It’s actually a time portal back to 1989!
    M: Er, thanks, but I’m happy with the designers I am already working with…do you have any other advice for me?
    K: Mmmmm…pie charts?

  38. Over it says:

    Yah all she helped Meghan find buttons and took her to watch tennis, because without Kate , Meg won’t know how to deal with designers or find her way to Wimbledon. Thanks Kate. Whatever would Meghan have done without you and your helpfulness. I noticed you couldn’t just be kind and help her by calling off your attack dogs but small steps I guess. These people are pathetic

  39. Amy Bee says:

    Kate still lacks confidence. And she only started working because she didn’t want to be shown up by Meghan.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Amy Bee, I agree that Keen is insecure. What I find interesting about all of these comments is that she hasn’t really done any work for 20 years. I think Keen has more of a personality than we know. I believe that Keen has been spending 20 years perfecting here superiority of all beings. And I mean all beings. She loves being FFQ and she loves lording it over people. And I have no doubt that she’s really very good at it. Can you imagine when H&M had to be around her and Mean? I’m sure there is so much that we don’t know, and it could be why we keep getting all of the Keen the peacemaker, revolutionary, top CEO, perfect everything. I have a feeling when things start getting leaked against her, we’re going to need more than popcorn. I think wine in large quantities will be required.

  40. Lizzie says:

    Another article where they single out building confidence. I’ve worked since 1985 and never had a job interview ask about my confidence. Sorry, I work in a world of skill and dedication. They cannot even mention those words in the same sentence as Keen. I hope taxpayers are happy to pay millions of tax money to the rf so she can spend decades building confidence.
    BTW, the pic of Keen modeling in a see thru dress to get Bill’s attention did not look like someone lacking confidence. Rather it looked like someone who will do anything for attention.

    • Maria says:

      That dress wasn’t even meant to be a dress. It was supposed to be a sheer skirt worn over another one.

    • Tessa says:

      It was probably a well thought out strategy with Kate and Carole. She was a “friend” first even “protecting” women from women who came on to him. Then probably Carole told Kate to show him that Kate is a WOMAN so he’ll notice her.

      • Nic919 says:

        It also helped that she was willing to sleep with him when his girlfriend at the time did not want to. Kate benefitted from being born in more open minded times because her initial approach resembled more of a mistress than a royal wife. And her lack of work ethic certainly resembles someone who did not anticipate doing any of the charity work that any of the Royal wives had been doing during her lifetime.

  41. Margaret says:

    When I looked at that top photo, I think about her photo taken with the smirk on her face when looking at meghan, on the carriage ride, during the last trooping of the colors.
    It comes to mind that you laugh today, but you will cry tomorrow. Also don’t count your chickens until they hatch. I don’t know I just can’t feel sorry for kate, with her mean girl behavior. I just can’t with her.

  42. Giggles says:

    In my humble opinion, offering to put someone in touch with fashion designers does NOT count as help.

    • taris says:

      “hey meghan, i know it’s tough adjusting to being a duchess, being pregnant AND dealing with constant smears. what’s that? you’ve been feeling suicidal? uhm, okay… here’s the number for some fashion designers! you’d look cute in alexander mcqueen!”

  43. Lili says:

    another bullsh*t story, i can give you the number of designers, weren’t designer clothes being turned away from Meghan saying the palace cant accept Gifts. I mean designers wanted Meghan to be seen wearing their clothes. I just have to snicker here that Kate had to call up designers in order to get clothes

  44. Sue Denim says:

    whoever stages these “work” photos is stuck in the ’70s, makes me laugh every time.

  45. LaraW” says:

    When was this documentary made? At the height of the Kate Should Be the Next Queen campaign? The tone seems a bit off given recent events (embargoed from attending the statue unveiling, unable to go to the tea thing for covid related unspecified squirrely reasons, house shopping in Buckleberry). From what I’ve gathered on this site, putting together a program like this isn’t a “welp, let’s just edit a bunch of glossy clips and pics and have some overwrought narration,” but requires Work. I suppose it could have been pulled… but the whole rollout of Lacey, the iTV “documentary,” and now this— what on earth is everyone trying to say? Is it a very very late response to the Oprah interview? I didn’t think Carole had enough pull to have a hagiography of Kate produced, but maybe she does???

    • Sunday says:

      Putting this together wouldn’t have been very difficult honestly, they basically just need some footage and the participation of the royal “experts” and that’s it. What’s questionable to me is the difference in tone as you pointed out. It’s like they’re working off an old list of talking points. I’m also curious whether this documentary even goes into the early years at all? Does it mention the keen center for kids who want to learn to read good (and do other stuff good too)? Because these quotes are so incredibly general, it’s like they forgot the entire embiggening project. It’s like they can’t even get their fluff right.

      Apparently the Harry versus William hatchet job of a documentary got 1/2 the ratings that time slot usually pulls in. I’ll be very interested to see how this mockery fares.

  46. Edna says:

    So this was an actual documentary that aired on television in the UK? How long was the documentary. How much time is needed to fawn and spout fan fiction over Kate? There’s no substance there and really nothing of significance to talk about for an hour. Wonder what the ratings were on this? Also, why do they always have to drag Meghan into the conversation? These Rota rats need to keep Meghan’s name out of their mouths.

  47. Lady Digby says:

    Both W + K are dull and lazy whose attitude when reluctantly meetings us peasants is definitely “Pleased to meet me.” Even with her magic buttons she will never outshine him which is one reason he choose her. For me the monarchy belongs in the past , a dusty relic and quite frankly I doubt that either of them will be crowned. After the Queen has gone a lot of things will change. The RF really exposed themselves over treatment of women who marry into the family. Yes they want to be head of the Commonwealth but don’t any POC from there try and marry one of William’s children because you will never be accepted as one of the family.

  48. Lizzie says:

    I thought Keen was always ‘wary’ of Meghan and kept her distance. Hmmmm.

  49. Emily says:

    Utterly embarrassing.

  50. CooCooCatchoo says:

    Cracking up about Kate offering to put Meghan in touch with designers. “If you like the buttoned granny look, I can hook you up!”

    • Jay says:

      🤭

    • MsIam says:

      I know, lol! Just call “Sister Wives R Us” they’ll be there on the double! Meanwhile, Kate has been busy copying all of Meghan’s looks for…reasons!

  51. Abena Asantewaa says:

    So the only tangible help Kate offered Meghan was infact help that Meghan did not need, because as an actress on red carpets and what have you, she knew a lot about fashion houses. With being invited to Wimbledon, that was condescending, becausenMeghan had been going to Wimbledon before marrying Harry.. The whole thing is a bad reflection on Kate.

    • booboocita says:

      Meghan had gone to Wimbledon to watch her friend Serena Williams play long before she even met Harry. I have to wonder if her joint attendance with Kate was more an instance of Kate hearing that Meghan was going to Wimbledon and inviting herself along (“You’re going? Let’s go together!”) rather than Kate actually inviting Meghan to go with her.

  52. Giddy says:

    We so often hear the phrase “ you get what you pay for”. This is certainly not the case with FFQ Keen Kate. Charles and the British people have certainly not received much for the millions spent on Her Keen-ness. She is a paper image who is the human equivalent of zero.

  53. Eurydice says:

    You know, if Meghan weren’t in the picture, I would say this is a pretty brutal hatchet job on Kate. Nothing about this is complimentary at all. You don’t even have to read between the lines to see that they’re calling Kate lazy, timid, indifferent, ignorant and uninteresting.

    • Nyro says:

      It’s not a hit job. They know she’s a lazy dimwit, they’ve all said so many times over the last 2 decades. Now they’re frantically trying to pad her almost completely empty resume in order to save their jobs. All they can do is try to turn her lack of accomplishments and work into a virtue opposite Meghan. It doesn’t work unless there’s evil Meghan to bounce her off of.

      The Washington Post once tried to do this with Melania, claiming that her do and say nothing “approach” to First Lady-ing was feminist and subversive and made her just as influential as Michelle or Hillary. They got dragged for it because you’ll never convince Americans that someone sitting on their butt while collecting tax payer funds is a good thing.

      • Eurydice says:

        That’s why I said “if Meghan weren’t in the picture,” because it’s not like the press was reverential toward Kate before Meghan showed up. As you say, they’ve been calling her a lazy dimwit for almost 20 years. Kate got a reprieve when Meghan arrived, but, with no new input, the Evil Meghan storyline has run out of gas.

        The press doesn’t need to suck up to Kate in order to keep their jobs. What keeps them working is volatility, good or bad, whether they have to cause the volatility themselves or not. Maybe they have to suck up to the Queen, or Charles, or William, but there’s nothing special or powerful or beloved or necessary about Kate that needs protecting – even if William becomes King, she’ll only ever be just his wife.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Same. I’m sure that they *sound* obsequious in the documentary, but what they’re actually saying is not great.

  54. Likeyoucare says:

    Poor meghan. I hope khate had offer help on how to give a great speech. The way meghan mumbling using upper crust accent is really embrassing.

    Khate is such a talented FFQ, she should skip to be queen when elizebeth died.

    P.s please enclosed the payment for kissing your ass for the documentary.

    Sign katie nicholl

  55. Sunday says:

    I’m just imagining Camilla watching this at home, absolutely sloshed, jeering at the tv whenever they glow about how keen kate is.

  56. zinjazin@hotmail.se says:

    Honestly shes more of a burden than an asset. She costs millions and she have houndreds of people employed to serve her. And for what? As the queen said “but what does she do?”

  57. Plums says:

    Man, British people are so blinkered by this aristocratic caste system. I have no idea why anyone like Kate would aspire to this role she’s so entirely unsuited for when she’d be so, SO much happier as the anonymous trophy wife of some billionaire CEO somewhere. All the privilege and global high society social cache, none of the responsibility or duty in being a public facing official and cultural mascot of an increasingly backwater nation, whose taxpayers your living expenses are beholden to.

    • Sofia says:

      She wants the title more than the lifestyle. That’s not to say she doesn’t care about the money or her privileges, I’m sure they’re great for her but the priority was /the/ future future king not the money he has/would get.

      But I do agree that she would be happier with a rich guy living her sister’s life but that’s not what Kate wanted for herself.

      • Plums says:

        my main point is that the title is not actually worth what British people imbue it with, in a real sense. It’s only worth is this social cache that people imbue it with, but in terms of the real privilege actually having it affords you in life, it just feels super inferior to other options for a social climber. There are tradeoffs with it that just don’t exist for the other members of the .01%, and I feel like all the other women who rejected William in the 10 Waity Years until he realized he’d have to settle for Kate understood that in a way she just was absolutely blind to.

      • Julia K says:

        This is more about what Carole wants, living out her dreams thru her daughters.

      • Sofia says:

        @Plums: Well that’s because Kate doesn’t care about that. She doesn’t care about the trade offs. She just wants to be Queen no matter what. And she doesn’t care what she has to say or do to get there or what she has/had to sacrifice.

  58. jferber says:

    It seems Kate’s natural vocation is “waitying,” thus it is her life’s work and therefore her royal work. She’s been criticized for years for being lazy, but I now realize how unfair that is because of her natural inclination for “waitying.” For what, you may ask? Peasants shouldn’t ask such questions.

  59. Lizzie says:

    I know everyone here knows this but I have to say it anyway, Khate will never be Queen. She is second in line to be Queen Consort – a person married to the King. She will have a title of Queen but she will still be Mumbles McGee and do nothing. By then she will blame it on being a grandmother.

    • lucy2 says:

      I just looked it up because I couldn’t remember. I see the “Future Queen Kate” stuff a lot, but yup, it’s really “Future Queen Consort”.

  60. TEALIEF says:

    I love a good Grimms’ fairy tale and Mother Goose nursery rhyme, but seriously, come to hell on! This revisionist history of her is dung, and it’s insulting, because actual dung is purposeful, as Charles, her FIL knows. Trying to Rumpelstiltkin her straw into gold is BS and nonsense. Everyone knows her straw is only good for stuffing scarecrows, you can’t even weave a mat from it.

  61. Kate says:

    This whole article is so f-cking funny to me. I was rooting for her so hard on their wedding day and she has literally missed every. single. expectation – no matter how low the bar.

    Imagine waiting for a ring for a decade and then waiting for people to tell you what to do for an additional ten years. How embarrassing.

    • Eurydice says:

      It’s so weird because it seems like every so often, with the very edges of her mind, she recognizes that having produced children isn’t enough to guarantee her safety. She kind of grasps at it, makes a half-hearted stab at being necessary, and then it slips through her fingers and out of her head.

      • Tessa says:

        Diana had a work ethic. But Diana having two Princes did not guarantee her security or safety. Kate needs to realize that.

  62. Emmitt says:

    Why would Meghan need Kate’s help in finding fashion designers? Meghan, who modeled for Canadian department stores and who already has a great sense of style?

    Kate was probably trying to hit Meghan up for the name of some designers.

  63. Jaded says:

    “…she spent years studying what was expected of a Queen-in-waiting before stepping up to the plate with confidence.”

    ORLY? Like avoiding work? Like having countless Marilyn Moments? Like taking elocution lessons so she sounds like she’s talking with a mouthful of marbles? Like not being able to have a fulsome discussion with Dr. Jill Biden on the benefits of early childhood education and mental health initiatives? I thought that was your focus for the past 10 years Kate. I see you’ve been paying off your sycophantic fart-catchers again.

    • Tessa says:

      The marriage was not a sure thing. William called the shots he was interested in other women who turned him down. He settled for Kate. Kate is a dabbler she gives big talk about early childhood but has no clue about the subject. It’s an insult to serious scholars and practitioners who do serious research.

    • Lizzie says:

      It took years of studying what it takes for a role as the wife of a king? It takes being his wife. Look, it took me 3 seconds.
      You know if I was publicly called lazy even one time I would work my ass of in the future. Waity has been called lazy for 2 decades and holds her nose in the air. She is the FFQC and too good for most ‘work’.

  64. Red Weather Tiger says:

    Clearly, Kate has done zilch in ten years (other than the 3 kids, which ain’t nothing, but still), but let me ask this: does ol’ Camilla Parker Bowles have anything to show for all her time in the palace? I am not defending Kate AT ALL, as her laziness is Olympian. But other than occasional events and what seems to be a fondness for cocktails, has Cams ever done anything in her 16 year tenure? Fronted a real project with impact? I honestly don’t know.

    • Tessa says:

      Camilla was the “country” wife for years and also the Prince’s Mistress. She would “support” Charles and get bling and not have to do much work. She also really had no job just a short time as a secretary. Once Charles named her, he became obligated, her father apparently wanted him to have a future with Camilla not just being his mistress. HE hired a spin doctor who called her lazy but she got some patronages and did tours (but has low work numbers) and got to keep her home. Kate was much younger than Camilla when she got engaged to William she did very very little during the run up to the engagement. And took quite a while to do much work getting excuses made for her.Kate was smoke and mirrors, her employer of a year Belle Robinson said she had no serious deadlines and very flexible work schedule (part time) since she and Will were dating. Camilla was 50 plus Kate was a lot younger. No excuses for Kate who is just plain workshy and IMO all show.

    • Sofia says:

      She’s actually done a lot of work with domestic/sexually abused women, osteoporosis and literacy.

      • Tessa says:

        That was the first documentary about her, the osteoporosis cause (Summer 1997). When Diana died, her joint appearance with Charles re: osteoporosis foundation, was shelved. Camilla Must do the work since she is married to the Prince of Wales. That was and is a requirement for her which is why Charles hired a spin doctor Bolland to work with her. She must take patronages. Most of her life, she was a country wife and the Prince’s mistress. She had to take on these patronages. Odd that Kate was not given this sort of training during the engagement and learned to get out there and work.

      • Lizzie says:

        She has a book club, which is not working but it is leaps and bounds ahead of Waity.

    • notasugarhere says:

      As Sofia writes, she has done a lot with domestic violence, rape victims, and osteoporosis. Also with literacy and shelter pets. She was a housewife for years, at a time when that was considered the norm for her set. In contrast, Kate is a person who has never worked in her life. That is not the norm for the average person born in 1982.

  65. Andrea says:

    Is it just me or does all this coming out feel like there are major things underneath with Will and Kate going on?

  66. Tessa says:

    William called the shots, she’s pretending she had a say in the waiting. She was hanging in for the ring.

  67. Reece says:

    1. What? “concretise” This is not a word. I refuse to believe it. I will not google it!
    And what role, exactly, has she built, solidified, seeded and grown, made strong, cemented?

    2. Kate doing all she could to “help” Meghan when she first got there amounted to let me give you the numbers of some fashion designers…Because apparently the working tv actor would not have had that already.
    Nope, Royals are not glorified celebrities.

    • Topaz says:

      @ Reece I googled or binged it for you:
      concretise
      make (an idea or concept) real; give specific or definite form to.
      “the theme park is an attempt to concretize our fantasies”

  68. paddingtonjr says:

    It’s a good thing Katie likes waiting because that is her life: waiting for Big Blue, waiting to be POW, waiting to be QC, waiting to be QM. Always waiting, always keen. You could literally replace her with a mannequin or Real Doll and the headlines would be “Katie Keen finally finds her voice.”

    • TEALIEF says:

      Let us, then, be up and doing,
      With a heart for any fate
      Still achieving, still pursuing,
      Learn to labor and to wait. –  Longfellow.

      She and her husband helicoptered over the labouring and went straight to the leisure and wait line.

      • paddingtonjr says:

        Perfectly apt quote! W&K have never learne to labour; their lives are only about leisure and waiting.

      • A says:

        Oooh, but Waity Katie did labour though. She laboured to get herself into the very position she’s in today. It’s just that the Middletons constantly misrepresent themselves, and insist that this isn’t what they did at all, even though it is. Even the Spencers were much more open and naked in their ambitions to ascend into the ranks of the royal family. The Middletons are just plain grifters.

  69. L4frimaire says:

    I have to say I absolutely hate that horrible mauve pantsuit. It’s the same hideous color as early 80s upholstery and carpeting. She should burn it.

  70. Bunny says:

    Kate very much did resent being Waity Katie, seeing other women waltz in and out of Bill’s chambers for a decade. Additionally, Kate very much did/does resent Meghan walking in after a short, comparatively effortless engagement to the Better Brother.

    Seeing your BIL totally, visibly head over heels in love with your soon-to-be SIL, would be maddening, knowing that you’re not the same in your husband’s eyes.

    Seeing your soon-to-be SIL with a career and a life, waiting for no one, would be enraging.

    My prediction is that some day we’ll come much closer to finding out just how much of the “palace sources” are Kate and her family of interfering vipers.

  71. The Recluse says:

    I stumbled over the word “studying”….yeah, sure, she was ‘studying’ what it involves to be Queen and whatnot. Sure…(hahahahahahaha!)

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      The Recluse, they need to have her studying about the early years now. At this rate, she’ll understand SOMETHING about it in 20 years.

  72. Sarah says:

    Hmmm, I’ll say I think Kate went into her marriage essentially trying to guarantee the heir and the spare and then spent the remainder of her time raising her kids until someone tapped her on the shoulder and said let’s do some work. It also didn’t help that her husband was and is work shy sooooooooooo it’s not like she could gallop into working, what would be the point, it would end up upstaging her husband. Also, what experience did she have? Absolutely none. She was essentially a rich girl who sat around and waited for her man to propose without pursuing anything concrete of her own because she had her eyes on the prize. I mean she could have taken public speaking courses but nope someone had to tell her whatever you’re doing is fine, keep it up until it wasn’t fine any longer.

    I am not going to rip into her for not doing much because I think she essentially just let the courtiers lead her until she had children and realized oh yeah I like children and let me do some work around this.

    Also, aside from her being his long term on and off girlfriend, we knew absolutely nothing about her aside from her family background and when she got engaged and did an interview, we still knew nothing about her except that she talked through her nose. The public wasn’t expecting much except for the following: look good, dress well, stay thin and show us your children.

    As for the constant shows, all of this focus on Kate being the next Queen is being used because you can’t do this same analysis and sugar coating shows for Camilla because the British public would be furious so you look to the next wife who will be Queen and is younger and gush on her.

    • Mercury says:

      @Sarah you are spot on!

    • Curious says:

      that’s a reason i said to my sons. a prenup. they can marry whoever they want. but there will be a prenup. there is no prenup with their children , their children will inherit us, their wives won’t-.

  73. Cottage Cat says:

    What l don’t get is that Middleton was some sort of ingenue, going about her business yet “plucked” by mediocre William. The Middletons have some serious investment in PR, like Carole’s show-pony was apparently a “common deck hand” when she worked on yachts at Ocean Marina. No she wasn’t. She flounce around tossing her hair, in tiny shorts to get rich old guys to invest

  74. bettyg says:

    You can’t blame Keen for not doing anything because Wills didn’t do anything either.

    Charles founded the Prince’s Trust at 27
    Harry established Sentebale when he was 20 and later the Invictus games.
    W&K now at almost 40 are they are just beginning to start their legacy.

    So it is not out of the ordinary to work before 40.

  75. Curious says:

    when they moved to Anmer hall the courtiers had no control over them. so they made a choice not to have the courtiers involved in their lives. my opinion is William is like a playboy, Catherine lived that playboy life with him before they got married. William have love for Catherine but he was never in love with her, she was just available. their first yrs of marriage was, holidays , fun times, no work. they just used the tax payer money to enjoy their lives. the thing is Catherine is not royal by birth, but William is . so William can do as he wants ,as he is doing, but Catherine still have no rights. Catherine is like those woman looking for a sugar daddy. she got nothing to offer even for a simple job.