I’m sure there are some royal-gossipers who are feeling some stress about the upcoming Fakakta Statue Unveiling. But I’m weirdly enjoying the drama ahead of the unveiling. It’s flat-out hilarious to me that Prince William backed himself into a corner with all of his petty-tyrant games and sugary PR. William ensured that he was damned if asked Kate to come to the unveiling and damned if he asked her to stay home. And now that’s become the story which has overshadowed the “will Harry and William reconcile at the unveiling” narrative. People are focusing way too much on the sorry state of Cambridge marriage and it’s hilarious. You can tell that William and Kate are desperately trying to refocus the attention on Harry and how poor terrible Harry is so mean to them. Harry’s the one in charge of everything, all of this is Harry’s fault! Here’s more from the Telegraph’s exclusive (which is paywalled, which is why I’m using secondary sources) and some new quotes from Page Six:
Kate’s absence from the unveiling: Kate Middleton’s absence from Princess Diana’s memorial launch Thursday will be “telling on so many levels,” according to family sources. While it was expected that Kate would be on hand to broker peace between William and his brother, Prince Harry, a source told Page Six: “Catherine’s absence speaks volumes. I think keeping the numbers down is a perfect ‘excuse’ for Catherine to stay away. William is fed up with the drama and Catherine doesn’t need to be dragged into this.”
The Cambridges’ private viewing: “They are planning a private family visit with their children, and that private moment is far more important than the public rhetoric. William is determined that the Sussex drama does not overshadow this important moment of remembrance to his much-missed mother and is keeping that as his focus.”
“Aides” made the decision to disinvite Kate from the unveiling: One name on the guest list is seemingly still up in the air. On Sunday, the Telegraph, reported that aides “agonized” over whether Kate Middleton should attend the ceremony, concerned that Harry might feel “outflanked” by her presence amid the brother’s continuing tensions. “When they speak to the Duke he says one thing, and they think they’ve made progress and then he speaks to the Duchess and they feel they’re back to square one again,” an aide told the newspaper. “It’s a really tricky situation they’re trying to balance here.”
Kate is so terribly worried about the brothers: “The question for the Duke is whether he is able to override the short term pain and damage to get back to the place he once was with his brother,” Kate’s friend added. “It’s very difficult when the trust has basically gone.”
Man, this source really hates Harry: “It’s highly doubtful there will be a coming together of the brothers for anything more than the unveiling. Harry can be petulant and defensive and is unlikely to apologize or even acknowledge any wrongdoing and William, who has seen the hurt caused by his brother ripple through the whole family, is not sanguine about how their relationship is changed for good. The gulf between them is more than the 5,000 miles between London and California.”
[From Page Six and Vanity Fair]
Don’t you understand that Prince William is downright desperate to refocus the press onto Harry and how Harry is terrible, mean and petulant? Why can’t people talk about that?? Why do they keep on bringing up this major signal that all is not well in Camp Cambridge? And I have no idea how Page Six’s “source” meant this: “Catherine’s absence speaks volumes.” I mean, it does speak volumes. And none of it is about Harry. Harry is sitting in Frogmore Cottage, playing with Eugenie’s baby August and minding his business while this keen Cambridge psychodrama plays out in the media. “William is fed up with the drama and Catherine doesn’t need to be dragged into this.” Dude, Kate is desperate to be dragged into this! She is desperate to cosplay Diana and stare wistfully at Harry for an hour. And that’s why William doesn’t want her to go. Which “speaks volumes.”
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Another day, another story where the Middleton camp are determined to bully William into giving Kate what she wants and he keeps slapping her down. They will up and the ante over the next few days – Kate are the Mids are really poking the bear.
But this is the usual with her – she spends so much time and effort into inserting herself into things and making them ALL about her. Trust me, after the ceremony on Thursday the press over the next week will all be about her because she and Mummy are briefing the press to make that happen.
This will not go the way she wants it to.
i think people tend to overstate the middleton’s role in royal affairs, and i certainly don’t think everything william-related is due to carole pulling the strings or whatever. sometimes it’s wills just making an ass of himself (as yuzh).
i am genuinely curious, though, whose idea it was to bench kate for this event. the more i think about it, the more i suspect it was harry. really. the article above seems to suggest it, though i doubt it’s about harry fearing being “outflanked”. he probably knows how inappropriate and opportunistic kate would be. we all know keen has no problem making real somber moments all about her (see: sarah everard, philip’s funeral), so no doubt she would’ve been all over this unveiling like white on rice.
it’s so crass.
Because the Middleton press is blatant. No way is Pwt embiggening Kate. We know it’s Middleton just because it’s so blatant and totally rediculous. Saviour of the monarchy? Future Queen and her husband? Peace broker? Man, she is so dumb, she can’t say 6 words without fumbling. Yeah, right
If Harry was the only one asking for Kate not to attend then William wouldn’t have agreed to that and we would be seeing a hundred stories about evil Meghan convincing Harry to keep Kate away. It’s William. No one else can send the Middletons into doing all the media stories they have in the last week or so.
@Taris, this story about Kate being disinvited was broken by Tominey weeks ago, so NO, please quit blaming Harry, the pile on is ridiculous. William didn’t want his wife to attend, this is all on him, it has nothing to do with Harry.
As others on here have said, it would have been leaked if it was Harry. These stories are pretty much begging for her to be allowed to attend which is why it has to have come from William – its his (and Harry’s) event so he gets to decide who from his side gets to attend.
This will blow up in her face – both with him and the public. Her infantile attention seeking behaviour is taking away from the memorial, making the narrative around it about her and NOT Diana which will not go down well with either brothers or the Spencers.
Am also willing to bet that she will not be allowed to use her private visit to get press attention – such as paps shots etc.. I would be surprised if she is allowed to take a pap in with her, even their SM manager
But don’t you think that the source would have thrown Harry under the bus explicitly if he had demanded Kate stay home? They really want to blame Harry (actually Meghan) but the closest they let themselves come is implications….
people, like everyone else on this site, i’m speculating here. not “blaming” anybody. so … relax.
i *do* think harry had a hand in this decision because he’s made it rather clear that he doesn’t want his appearance at these events to be misconstrued as “reconciliation”. after philip’s funeral, for example, he was quick to let omid know that there had been no peace talks. i can imagine he realised kate’s presence on thursday would’ve been a repeat of “kate the peacemaker” stories. i don’t know what his relationship with kate is at the moment, but team middleton has certainly been playing it up lately (that “harry texted kate after lili was born” story was complete BS). he doesn’t wanna be used for palace/middleton PR. so, perhaps he didn’t demand that she not be there, but more likely pointed out that it should be a more intimate affair. william would acquiesce to this because … well, we know why.
harry’s been involved with the planning of this memorial for months, so it’s not surprising that “news” of kate’s possible absence found its way to CT weeks ago. perhaps kate allies were hoping for an outcry that kate wouldn’t be there, and it just never came.
and yeah @nic, i do think there were some requests from harry’s side that didn’t sit well with the palace because we ARE seeing yet another wave of “harry, mr incandescent” + “meghan is a problem” + “the sussexes are so unstable” stories.
pay attention people.
Yeah, no. It’s not Harry at all. This is all really so simple. William banned Meghan from a Diana event back in 2017 because he was certain Meghan wouldn’t be around for long. And now, he’s banning Kate from a Diana event because he is certain she won’t be around for long. This is William’s modus operandi, not Harry’s. William is slowly phasing her out and the Middletons know it, so now it’s all hands on deck to secure Kate’s place next to William. They’ve even recruited the formerly exiled Uncle Gary to do some dirty work. They’re desperately trying to pass this off onto Harry and Meghan.
William is pushing her away. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kate mysteriously came down with a case of Delta variant covid in December, just in time for her to not be available for the Sandringham pap walk and all the family Christmas activities. We’ll get lots of nice pics of just Will and the kids though.
I — respectfully—- disagree, Taris. I don’t think Harry gives a ding dong whether Kate is there or not. This is all House Cambridge trying to —once again— use Harry as cannon fodder to hide their own sorry mess. It’s not Harry out there making a big deal out of this.
I think Harry had a big say in media attendance, but Kate coming or not…..is all William …..in my opinion.
Even if harry said “I’m not coming of Kate’s going” he would have been ignored. Plus we would have heard all about it. Keen stans can blame harry. But they know deep down it’s Willie.
Willie was the one who benched Kate, if he wanted her there, she would have been there. She probably would have gone if she didn’t behave the way she did at Phillips funeral. Trying to upstage someone’s funeral to embiggen yourself is low, but not for Kate.
Willie literally told kate to ‘get lost’ after the funeral, he knew what she was trying to do. Willie probably doesn’t want to deal with all the ‘Kate the keen peacemaker’ stories.
Taris – the only thing Harry likely got involved with was insisting on a vastly reduced press presence. Anyone — even William — would have agreed that letting the pack of rota vultures in would cheapen Diana’s memorial event into a 3-ring circus and insult her memory as she was basically chased to her death by the paparazzi.
I haven’t seen any stories saying that Harry has banned Kate from attending. If he was the driver of that decision we would have seen him get directly blamed for it. He hasn’t because it’s William who decided this. All the other blaming Harry stories or evil meghan are because he didn’t want the rota there and they won’t be. Why would they be so explicit about his issues with the rota but remain silent about Kate not attending? It’s because he’s not the one who said she can’t attend.
It’s already happening. The Fail has a major story about linchpin …. Carole. I’m sure it will be mentioned here in a short while, so I’m not going into details.
The use of the name “Catherine” is a big tell that this is from Kate’s camp. The press always refer to her as Kate. Only the family call her Catherine.
I was going to point that out. Family sources will call her Catherine, other media Kate.
I believe that Harry said…NO KATE…PERIOD. Look at that picture of the Cambridge’s, two people in two different worlds. Harry/Meghan focus by the media was able to mask that unhappiness but now looking back it was always there, in plain view. Two very unhappy people.
I think it was William telling her not to come or they’re both in cahoots trying to make Harry look bad. In this article, they’re trying to blame Harry on it and make William and Kate look good, reasonable and diplomatic. They’re so not.
I used to think that too because i believe harry wanted to protect meghan from the “see they get along without her” stories. But I actually think it was william or the spencer family that said no to her coming.
As others have pointed out, if it was harry that would have leaked by now.
Correct Cecilia. This is all Willy but I wonder what triggered such an adamant NO from him on Kate attending.
Yep. No way is Harry so foolish as to restrict Kate from going bc he knows that would be leaked and used to abuse him and Meghan. This is all William. Do not put put this mess on Harry.
@seraphina: i think this middleton pr is starting to piss him off. That and i think william wanted this to be about his mother, not his wife in diana cosplay flaunting for the camera’s.
Remember williams statement about the dyson report? Like, i said at the time i don’t think he wrote that or that he even wanted to say those things but he was made to do it. William has many flaws but i do think there’s is love for his mama. So he wants this to be about her.
Yup, it was definitely william. I said in another post that I really don’t think Harry cares whether Kate is there or not. Maybe he wanted her there, maybe he didn’t, maybe she wasn’t even on his radar. I think Harry is laser focused on the task at hand – honoring his mother – and that’s how he’s going to get through this event with William – keeping his focus on his mother. Kate’s attendance is likely a non-factor for him.
this order for her to “stand down” is from William and that’s why its so “telling.”
And if it was the Spencers, we wouldn’t have gotten the story about the “courtiers” disinviting Kate. Personally, I don’t even think the Spencers have the clout to dictate anything concerning this unveiling but WE. This was all William, and he’s still refusing. The Middy clan and their Tominey minion just don’t even dare blame William publicly so they fall back on their usual “the big bad Sussexes” blah, blah, blah.
why would the Spencer’s demand she not attend? unless she’s been beefing with them or making weird/inappropriate comments about Diana, it would be very odd for them to tell either of Diana’s sons that their wives are not welcome at the event. Even if they’re keeping attendance size down, it doesn’t come off as reasonable to exclude the spouse of one of her sons. There are only 2 people who could, reasonably, decide that Kate should not attend – Kate or William, and we know that Kate wants to be seen there
I can see Harry saying this as well. Remember all of the stories after Phillip’s funeral about Kate being the peacemaker etc. followed by the Uncle Gary stories attacking Meghan. Why would Harry put himself in that position again. As far William, I don’t think he care either way if Kate was there or not, she’s invisible to him.
MMadison, perhaps you should go back and read that article again. “Harry might feel “outflanked” by her presence” Well, really? Would anyone anywhere feel outflanked by Keen Cant? I think they’re working hard to make this about Harry, which the tabloid media are happy to do since they’ve been barred from attending. The fact remains that if this had been Harry making the request that she stay away the tabloid media would be shouting it to the sky in big bold block letters. Now, do I think it was Willi who told her, “NO!” Probably. However, I have to think that there are various members of the brf when she made Prince Phillip’s funeral all about her. I can’t imagine that TQ, PC and well any of TQ’s and Phillip’s children not being pissed about that. Maybe she was told to stand down by someone further up the food chain.
My god, it’s a statue unveiling, not the signing of the treaty of Versailles. KP needs to get a grip on reality.
@Mac you are SO right!
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Harry is just there for the unveiling of the statue. Then it’s peace out.
Personally, I think, once the royal rota is not there, Harry don’t care if unable comes or not, she is not his problem.
I think Kate is the LAST of Harry’s worries, concerns, focus, interest.
Me, too.
It was William, not Harry. He can’t bench Kate. incandescent is the only one who can. Stop blaming Harry.
Agreed.
Kate and her mum are so desperate it’s so gross and embarrassing
I know we’ve all said this at some point, but HOW are they so bad at this? Especially since their entire lives are essentiay one huge PR campaign?
Is it complacency? Like, Kate and Carole have been doing this for so long they think “if it aint broke don’t fix it?”
CBers who remember the Kate stalking years— does this give a somewhat similar vibe? William being “I dumped her” and Kate immediately putting out some story to draw attention (and William) back to her?
Yeah, more or less. Lots of photos coming out of clubs, very sexy clothing, etc.
Yeah yeah yeahs, I have a theory about it *put a foil crown on the head*
This family is disfunctional – it’s the fact. They all are blaming Meg for *making Harry a jerk* – but they pushed Harry themselves into the hands of confident and brave woman, Harry needed someone who could help him to escape the family.
William is the part of this family, flesh of it’s flesh. And I believe he really wanted to be the King over Charles. He and Ma Carol(e) could make a deal: she helps him get a crown over Charles with a massive pr attack – finally they succeed it when they started smear campaign against Meg and Meg is out of Britain now. So Bills could hope they also succeed at making him King now. In return Ma midd would get her own title (she will never get it as far as Chuck is a King) and *pretending* that marriage w/ Kate is ok. That is why it were thousands of articles about how good William and Kate as future King and Kween. But Ma midd is not the smartest in the world, Chuck has more power when her. When Bills realized Chuck won’t give him crown (he is obsessed w/ Camilla and doesn’t give a heck about anything else) – the need to keep this marriage up is gone.
Now they desperately try to *win him back* – as they did during the breakup. That’s how i see it.
Just get on with so Harry can return home to his family. Cambridge marriage drama has nothing to do with the Sussex.
I hope they didn’t pull anything when they attempted that stretch.
That is some weak spin there.
It truly reeks of desperation and it tells me that kate was completely blindsided by the fact that she was benched
Agreed, cecilia. The scramble around this is desperate and embarrassing like some of us said yesterday and that tells me that Kate is feeling desperate and embarrassed and is trying to cover.
The way for a good PR team to handle this would be to put a narrative about how “Kate understands the importance of this event for those who loved Diana the most. She’s obviously disappointed as she wants to support her husband at this emotional event but she knows his mother is looking down at him with pride as he lives the best life in her memory he can” blah blah blah.
Instead we are getting “its HARRY! Harry is why Catherine cant be there! OPRAH!!!!!!”
Maybe William got tired of all the Middleton pr claiming that he was weak and that Kate was going to be Queen and save the monarchy.
What burns even more is that the event is outside where up to 30 people can gather. I’m still surprised that Kate isn’t there; but also delighted. The fact that Harry isn’t being blamed tells me it’s not coming from him. He’s shown that he will drop receipts and now Ma Middleton is too scared to lie outright regarding him.
I agree Harper. The last thing House Cambridge or House Middleton want to do is seriously drag Harry into this BS. I’m sure they all know by now that Harry would simply have his official spokesman release a statement of one sentence, such as:
‘The Duke of Sussex has no input whatsoever in the Duchess of Cambridge’s attendance or non-attendance at the statue unveiling ceremony for his mother, Princess Diana.’
Can you imagine what a bomb that sentence would drop in the BS around Kate’s attendance coming out of everyone else? I mean, Carole for sure knows Harry would go there. Hell, let us all remember that Carole pushed so hard for a Harry/Pippa hook-up that Harry finally had to release an official statement that he was not forming a romantic relationship with Pippa — PERIOD.
TigerMcQ, I actually laughed out loud at that spin. I mean, spray the Luminol; we all know who will turn up with blood on their hands.
➕💯. Great quip, MERRICAT. Loved it. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
The weakest part of this spin, Tiger mcQ, is that there was some concern for Harry because he would be “outflanked.” Lmao that there is any concern for Harry in this situation. You know it’s weak spin when they’re concerned for Harry who they later call petulant and need to apologize. So many levels of spin. They’re throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what will stick.
Outflanked is a telling word choice. Two meanies against one Harry. At least they are hinting at the truth.
Imho, the weakest part of the spin is saying Kate’s private viewing of the statue is more important than the official unveiling.
Watch and see, if the Cambridges divorce, they will somehow spin this as Harry’s fault. Because something something that bloody woman something! And of course Meghan too, 5000 miles away, can’t forget about her. Its the perfect cover for this shambles of a marriage.
Yes of course. These royals are disgusting.
You’re right, even if it happens years from now they’ll say their problems started when Meghan came into the picture
They will blame it on sussexit. “Meghan and harry leaving put great strain on the Cambridges marriage because they were left to fill the void and pick up the workload.” Despite the cambs not working any more than they have done in 2019.
@Cecilia, let’s Not forget there were idiots on the Daily Fail (about 6 months ago)claiming that the reality of the situation is that Meghan wanted Will and he wanted absolutely nothing to do with her. Someone actually said that Meghan was actively flirting with Will because she wants to be in Kate’s position and that Will made it clear that he wasn’t interested.🤥🤢😂😂🤣🤣. I just had to jump in and comment on that lie.
Yup. They’ll push it as “That evil AMERICAN Meghan came in and gave poor William and Catherine so much stress!!!! How could their marriage cope?!?!?”
Is Carole like…super bitter that Harry didn’t want to marry Pippa or something?
They all sound dangerous and insane. Good luck, Brits!
She is a really peculiar mother if she wants Pippa to marry Harry. That means both of them would be WK scapegoats and she’s ok with that? Mother of the year!
Yeah, she hyped that until Harry came out with a flat public refusal of Pippa as even an interest.
@merricat – they did the same with George Percy who’s mother had a LAWYER issue a statement saying the same thing. The women in that family have NO shame.
Carol was trying to sell that Harry wanted Pippa after W&K’s wedding and then Harry came out with a firm denial. She then changed it to ‘Harry isn’t good enough for Pippa’
She was clearly embarrassed that Harry put out that denial. The Middletons are a strange family.
Digital Unicorn, agreed. My goodness.
The Middletons, especially Carole, is so pissed off with Meghan because, ever since she came into the scene, the Middleton family have been set aside and relegated to the trash bin. Pippa, who was very visible pre-Meghan, has absolutely been forgotten by the British press and the people of the UK. She gets no coverage. She has to step out and stroll outside of her house to call attention to herself and arrange for paps to cover her and pray to be seen in online news and in the inside pages of the papers. Pippa news hardly sell papers and are not click-worthy. The Middletons have lost their publicity to Meghan who’s has a winning personality, more appealing and interesting to cover. And she generates clicks that translate to cash. Not even their daughter Kate, a FFQ, can compare.
@ ShazBot. Hahaha, this made me laugh. They are definitely dangerous. To each other, to Harry and Meghan, and to the Royal Family as an institution.
As for being insane…? Considering there are different types of insanity…um, yeah, I vote YES on all counts.
Good luck Brits, indeed!
I think they wanted any man who would inherit a title. But despite having fun trading stories about her at their shooting parties, none of the aristos wanted to actually marry Pippa the commoner with average looks and no business sense. Pippa’s connection to a future queen made her a novelty, but that wasnt enough (plus, the royal family quickly marginalized her).
Once William and Kate divorce, I expect a lot of pap strolls with Kate and Pippa again, as the Middletons continue to pimp them out (other than being paparazzi fodder, the sisters have no other skills, interests, or accomplishments).
@mrsK – with the kids. Lots of conveniently “casual” pictures at the local playground or wherever.
I expect we’ll see Kate, Pippa and all their kids skiing come winter, much like Diana and her boys did. Or on Mustique, Cannot, PG Tips, Charlotte and Louis with the whole Midds clan making sand castles on the beach, like Diana and her boys with her sisters’ families. Anything, to stay in the news.
So the windsors shouldn’t apologize to harry for ignoring meghan’s request for hospitalized treatment for her suicidal ideation, but harry should apologize for……. For what exactly? It would be nice if they could state that.
Lmao i find it hilarious that they try to spin it that its the sussexes that are causing the family so much pain as if we’ve forgotten about the stories of 2018 and 2019.
As for kate not going. Again, i have to see it to believe it but if she truly isn’t there it sure is telling. And not because willy want to protect her.
They want Harry to apologize for loving, defending, and living a good life with a biracial woman. Then they want him to dump her and the children and come home.
Exactly @Lowcountry L – Huge headline in the daily fail when Harry landed read:
“Harry is home!” uhhh Harry’s home is now in California. England will never be his home again.
Truer words have never be spoken. I still can’t comprehend not having your spouse with you – the mother of your children, your rock, your CEO!! and I ventured to Daily mail last night they had a wonderful piece on how Ma Middle-manager has helped Willy understand what a normal, healthy family is. Unfortunately, ALL families are a bit dysfunctional in their own way. None are picture perfect like Middleton PR want us to believe – but I digress.
In short, I am here for this drama and wish I could sip tea with Meghan as it unfolds.
That article was creepy as hell. I hope it gets talked about here. It was insane
It should – Kaiser is good about picking up on all sorts of little news pieces and weaving them together.
I only saw a screenshot of a part of the article but it sounded incredibly disrespectful to diana. I think the middletons are gunning for a full fledged take over. Britains second royal family.
I saw that article and my jaw actually dropped. It was slagging off Diana for being a “demanding” parent and saying that William learned everything about being a family from Carole. This week, of all weeks, Camp Carole dumps this one on the press. Extraordinarily insensitive.
That is the sting – this week of all weeks to drop that fluff piece.
Orrr did she do the piece awhile ago and the press choice to dump it this week
it’s hard to say how dumb she is, is she THIS stupid. to release it this week
Like how will Kate not being at an event dedicated to a woman she wasn’t even born from be “telling on so many levels”?
This is so stupid. I’ve been trying very hard not to do the I-love-Meghan-so-naturally-Kate-sucks thing, but Lordt. Between these half asses weak sourced articles basically punching ya in the face with “Kate the Great” madness turns me off all on its own. Just let the boys have their event to honor their mother and deal. Goodness.
it’s telling, but not in the way the article seems to think it is
the event is, literally, in their back yard. it says much, about the Cambridge marriage, if Kate isn’t there
And again they are trying to insist that it’s HARRY that needs to apologize. He and Meghan are the aggrieved ones. Until they get that, there will be no reconciliation.
Thats what i just said too. What should harry apologize for exactly?
For walking away from his “duty” – that duty of course being to continue being the scapegoat for Will and Kate and their kids for the rest of his life.
It’s disturbing.
I’m waiting on Middleton spin that this all was actually Kate’s peacemaker idea because she thought that the brothers will get closer if they are alone. Or something like that. Any spin that shows she’s not snubbed
Lol I was thinking along the same lines— that it would be hilarious if Harry and William temporarily united on one front: they don’t want her there.
I mean, that still kind of makes her a peacemaker. In that both brothers dislike her and the various PR crap/outright lies she’s been peddling. Harry already checked out. It seems William has come on board.
Kate has made the brothers reconcile! In their mutual dislike of her! A true peacemaker and saviour of the monarchy.
Yeah, Kate’s desperate to be at the unveiling. I think we’ve found the real attention seeker and it’s not Meghan. I don’t think Harry cares whether she’s there or not but William does. I think her antics at the furneral upset him and he doesn’t want a repeat of that. Oh, and what does Harry have to apologize for? He’s not the one who launched a smear and bullying campaign against his brother and sister in law.
She embarrassed him and herself at Philip’s funeral with the attention seeking camera mugging antics. He is unable to hide how he really feels about her and he will want the ceremony to be about him and his mother NOT about Kate and Diana (which is what she wants).
He is done with her – he can’t even be bothered to hide his disdain for her. Both she and her family know this. She embarrasses him and she embarrasses herself. She has no shame or self awareness.
I also don’t doubt that William was embarrassed by Kate forlornly staring at Harry during much of the funeral service, even one of the papers picked up on it. It can’t be good to be working overtime to try to make your brother public enemy number one in the UK and the second he lands on British soil, your wife is making heart eyes at him and probably drooling in her mask. No doubt she would crank it up a notch at the unveiling because she has never been able to help herself openly lusting after her brother-in-law, which is why there were awkward stories for years about her “flirting” and animosity towards his girlfriends. William is definitely the one who wants her out of the way for this event and the proof is in how much he is instructing his buddies in the press to place the blame on Harry. This is their MO. If they are going to such trouble to convince us to look over here 👈, then you can bet we probably should be looking the other way instead 👉
” he can’t even be bothered to hide his disdain for her. ” He learned well from his father didn’t he?
Lol @Amybee, “we’ve found the true attention seeker and it’s not Meghan.” True story.
If Harry is quarantining he will certainly not be sitting with any baby not his own.
I think it was a Cambridge site which said no decision has yet to be made on presence.of Kate.
The Cambridges are apparently going to see statue first though. Don’t know how that will work. Is statue in completely private place so it will not matter if it is unveiled for a few minutes? Are they going to peak under covering?
The publicizing of that early viewing is entirely tasteless.
So I can understand an early viewing so that his face won’t react but to publicize is tasteless – as you said.
The pictures, and there will be pictures, will only be Cambridge’s faces as they gaze at the statue. It’s only about their faces not the statue.
If she was going, it would have been officially or unofficially (through something like the Times/Telegraph) announced by now. Of course she could still turn up but it doesn’t look likely at this point.
I heard the statue is *in place*, but it is tented. They will probably walk the kids in, with Chris Jackson in tow to “document” the “solemn” occasion with pics and vid (which will either be leaked “Ooops!”, or posted to their YouTube *just* as the ceremony is taking place.)
It’s clear that William can’t stand to be around Kate lately. Their Scotland tour spoke volumes. This has nothing to do with Harry. Harry is the only one acting like a respectful adult.
It’s so obvious that the only way the Cambridges can get any press or attention is by invoking this “Sussex drama”. There is no drama, Harry and Meghan have moved on and what you’re seeing is William and Kate continuously lashing out because they expect Harry and Meghan to reach out and they don’t, so they / the press invent conversations and scenarios in their heads to fit an agenda. Harry probably only said hi to them during the funeral and they told their friends it was a one hour conversation. A man who has hated the press all his life for what they did to his mother will not suddenly forgive even his brother for doing to them same to his wife. Harry has moved on, he’s just being friendly for his grandmother and when she’s gone I believe he will cut them off completely and William will be left alone and isolated just as Carole Middleton wanted all these years.
omg the 1st ,2nd and 3rd pic, goodness. in those 3 pics she looks old and tired and far from beautiful. are most of her pics photo shopped?. i haven’t seen those pics before.
Yes, most of her pics are photoshopped. You can always tell how the press is feeling about her, bc they will run non-photoshopped pics when they’re ticked at her.
Could it also have been before she started her regular Botox/ filler regimen? We haven’t seen her look like this in a few years.
“Well, I don’t WANT to go to your special royal unveiling! I’M going to have a PRIVATE ROYAL VIEWING of the statue BEFORE HARRY even, and it will be so much more SPECIAL and IMPORTANT, so THERE!”
Does Carole hear herself, or is the roar of social ambition clogging her ears and making her stupid?
Something is really amiss here. Something was the trigger for this “benching” of Kate. Makes me wonder if Chucky didn’t have a talk with Wills about Middletons overstepping? Have the Middleton propaganda run too far and even Wills thought his way out of the box on this one? SOMETHING is not right. And damn I wish I knew what it was.
Well if the trigger to bench Kate was going too far with the propaganda, I’m not sure how this article is helping? Jeez.
Well, if it is a check on the Middletons, then it hasn’t worked. There is an article in the fail today all about how William has basked in the maternal glow of Mum Middleton and how the family have been a stabilising, guiding comforting presence for him. And then they can’t resist sneaking in some nasty paragraphs about how Harry can’t benefit from this because he doesn’t have a lovely white middle class mother in law who lives in the home counties. And in fact, this is why they are spiralling into chaos and lurching from drama to drama. Honestly, it’s awful.
There was definitely “something” and it wasn’t Harry. Maybe William is just mad that she gets more attention and doesnt want that, but I feel like there was something else. Maybe the posing for pics at the funeral ticked him off, but then why is this such a last minute announcement?
This is definitely coming from William so its interesting to think about what changed behind the scenes, for him to bar Kate from something like this.
I am having a hearty laugh at the Middletons-Gone-Wild. If the monarchy can’t rein in this family of sticky burrs, it truly is dying.
Make no mistake. The royalists are the only ones supporting the monarchy; they are a small group, and for them, blood matters. Game over, Middletons.
I have to wonder if the posing at Philip’s funeral is what set this off. She was classless doing glamour shots while the family was actually mourning. No one else did staged photos like she did that day. Maybe William didn’t want a repeat of that.
Could it be the Biden visit that did it? Kate made such an ass out of herself, could that be what finally made William say ‘Enough. You need to sit this one out.’??
I don’t think the exact trigger to bench Kate was the PR because there’s been so many obnoxious-embiggening FFQC articles and those can be shrugged off since they all do the same thing. I think her disastrous in-person appearance with Dr. Jill Biden might be it, because that was visible, international-level cringe.
(And it might also be her Alexis Carrington* preening at Prince Philip’s funeral AND Scotland tour smugness.)
*whomever wrote this first WAS BRILLIANT
Carole couldn’t have been such great help for William, if she was he won’t be cheating on her daughter Catherine again and again all through their dating and during their marriage. William is not a relax happy man, he looks like he is walking off a cliff most of the time. he can’t even hide his facial expression of anger, boredom, dislike in public events. if Carole thinks she did a good job, she must be delusional.. William must have been putting on an act with Carole.cause he haven’t change since his uni days.wonder when did Carole found out William is a serial cheater.?
The comment that Harry says one thing then speaks to Meghan & says another thing was from Robert Lacey’s extract & was about post Philip funeral talks & ‘reconciliation’ not about the unveiling. So interesting to see how it’s been crammed in here for a narrative.
Imagine thinking that Harry needs to apologise. Crazy seeing the Windsors portray themselves as the victims of Sussexit but that’s colonisers for you- rewriting history is their speciality.
Someone is very bothered that Kate isn’t at this unveiling & feels like she needs to be centred somehow. What was those comments about Meghan being a narcissist & so American with endless PR? Even saw an excerpt from a Fail article saying what a superior mother Carole is compared to Diana. Sad that even on this occasion the tacky behaviour & drama can’t be put aside.
Yup. Willnot and Cannot are trying to twist this narrative. Harry has spoken his truth and he and Meghan have made a good life for themselves. This statue drama is all about how Will and Kate cannot stand each other(or clearly Will can’t stand Kate) so camp Middleton is desperately going to the media to get what she wants.
The whole thing is so pathetic. Also Carole’s PR game is trash. If she were smart she would let this go on without Kate and post event leak a bunch of Kate comforts William stories after. If she was really smart, she would have Kate quietly honour Diana’s causes but that would involve effort from Kate beyond grooming so nah
As someone said here this is the beginning of the split in official appearances between William&Kate so that’s why the Middletons are upset.. Carole must be livid that’s why she run that article how dare you split from Kate I mothered you.. It really seems like Carole is emotionally blackmailing William
I said that before and I’ll say this again: two GROWN MEN don’t (or shouldn’t) need a third party to “keep the peace”.
Correct, but only one of them is a grown man, the other is the other brother.
Two grown adults, bound by blood no less and the trauma of losing their beloved mother. When I get upset with my siblings, I will make a direct contact and say: Hey, this is not good let’s talk. BUT we must also keep in mind, maybe Willy is emotionally stunted. It was Meghan who helped Harry get therapy and see what pain he had. While Willy has enablers around him.
i’m just glad we can (hopefully) be spared the endless, nauseating “kate the peacemaker” articles for a little while.
I think it’s as simple as: if my wife isn’t there then your wife shouldn’t be there either. I don’t see a potential divorce from this at all.
If that were the case, we would know about it. It wasn’t Harry’s decision.
Its simple only if the other wife cooperates. From the looks of all of this hand wringing and moaning someone doesn’t see this as simple. Someone feels their moment was stepped on.
➕💯 MsIam. Your comments are always spot on.
Neither wife knew Diana and attendance is limited.
See , this is how you know its Willy that doesn’t want her there. The courtiers don’t care about this statute and who does or doesn’t go. Diana was already divorced from Charles. This has nothing to do with the monarchy. Baldemort doesn’t want his button airhead there so he is trying to keep her away. We shall see if Karen keen succeeds in getting her own way again.The keenbridges have 99 marital problems and Harry and Meghan ain’t one.
Kate was never trying to be a peace maker at the funeral, but trying a re-do of the last time she was around the Sussex’s at the disastrous commonwealth service. Where she walked in with an attitude, and full of nasty looks for both Harry and Meghan for reasons still no one can/wants to explain ( at the time no Oprah interview was even being thought of). It seems slightly obvious that Karen and the Middleton clan miscalculated and instead of playing victim of the mean biracial chick, she now has to play above it all peacemaker which includes throwing William the future king whom “she never outshines” under the bus. I can imagine a scenario where both brothers generally don’t want to be bothered with her. Only Harry will never say the quiet part out loud, because he doesn’t see the pr value on calling out his brothers wife, or talking about her absolutely unvaccinated self forced him to stand next to a person he probably wanted some space from. And, William who for once seem to utilize some common sense and didn’t make a total ass out of himself at the same service, is probably fed up with Karen using him to clean up her mess. The result is no Diana cosplay, and maybe a chance to see how useful keen really is when to adult men prove they can act like adult men without her being present.
That’s a good point that Kate was trying to re-do her image after the b*tch face at the CW service. Kate and William were really united in their spite at that service, which works for William in that he thinks it makes him look strong against Harry. But Kate knows she looked like a mean girl and combined with the clarification of the crying story, she and her mom were desperate to change the narrative to peacemaker.
The part thats absofcknglutely fascinating to me is this (paraphrasing): ‘aides spk to the duke & he says one thing then they spk to the duchess and she says another and its bk to square one.’
OMFG! We dont even need a translation for tht but here goes:
First & foremost, tht so-called married couple arent spkng to each other & therefore theyre not on the same pg wth each other….theyre not a team, UNLIKE H&M whom even their enemies know tht they spk wth one voice.
How deliciously embarrassing.
Secondly: its DEFINITELY a fight going on between the Keens with mama Karen Middashian egging on kHate to tell the aides she wants to go, while bullyiam is adamant tht she not going.
Thirdly: this gives more credence to speculation tht these 2 fckers dont live together.
In conclusion: yes; just as we thought; theres trouble in camp keenbridge. With great implications for the future.
Bring it on!
LMFAO
I think that part about the duke speaking to the duchess and then things changing was meant to be about Harry and Meghan, but its hard to tell from these excerpts.
They never refer to Meghan as “the Duchess” in fact they barely use her first name, usually its “Markle” like she’s an employee. This is about Will and Kate, the ” real” duke and duchess according to them.
I thought that too at first, but then I wondered why would KP aides be negotiating back and forth between Harry and Meghan? It has to be W&K.
That’s how I took it. It makes no sense. Who is “they” who speak to the Duke? Is that to imply W&K talk to H but not M? It sounds like more blame M and H is under her control rhetoric. Why should W&K both talk to H but exclude M anyway?
No, its weird bc they don’t usually emphasize the Sussexes titles, but its definitely about them.
“When they speak to the Duke he says one thing, and they think they’ve made progress and then he speaks to the Duchess and they feel they’re back to square one again,” an aide told the newspaper.
An “aide” wouldn’t be using the third person “they” like that if they were talking about the Cambs. They’re saying when “William and Kate speak to Harry he says one thing, and they think they’ve made progress” etc. The quote is saying that Meghan is the problem and she’s the one ruining things. It’s the same thing as the Lacey quote about how Meghan won’t “withdraw.”
@Becks1 – The only way this article makes sense to me is if the aides are talking about Will and Kate – Kate wants to go and Will doesn’t want her to – that’s simple for me to understand. Otherwise, we end up with a super-complicated arrangement with aides negotiating directly with Harry several times, or W&K negotiating directly with Harry several times, and Meghan making a stand about the guest list for an event she was never going to attend in the first place.
I think the ambiguity of who they are referring to is intentional.
@Eurydice – it could be aides communicating with Harry, but look at the whole context. Aides are concerned that Harry will feel outflanked, brother’s continuing tensions, etc. There wouldnt be the bit about “they think they’ve made progress” if it was about W&K. This is about the overall negotiations for the unveiling and their communications with H&M about it. It makes far less sense for it to be about the Cambridges. The aides would speak directly to Kate. If you interpret this as being about W&K, then its saying the aides talk to William, they work out a plan, then William talks to Kate, she has different ideas, and its back to square one. Why? Kate has no say about this event. William is calling the shots as far as she goes. They wouldn’t be “back to square one” because Kate has a different idea. And I think William would send an aide to talk to Kate rather than talk to her directly.
This is another dig at Meghan, that’s all.
ETA to help clarify – the quote in this comment from Carmen is wrong, its not “they speak to the duchess,” its “HE speaks to the duchess.” I think that’s the confusion.
I really think they are referring to William and Kate. I have never heard any of them refer to Meghan as a Duchess, so why would they do so this one time? it’s always Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Duke of Sussex (although more and more they have dropped his title too) —- and then, always, Meghan Markle.
It seems like H & M. But only makes sense if it’s W&K
“One name on the guest list is seemingly still up in the air. On Sunday, the Telegraph, reported that aides “agonized” over whether Kate Middleton should attend the ceremony, concerned that Harry might feel “outflanked” by her presence amid the brother’s continuing tensions. “When they speak to the Duke he says one thing, and they think they’ve made progress and then he speaks to the Duchess and they feel they’re back to square one again,” an aide told the newspaper. “It’s a really tricky situation they’re trying to balance here.”
This is about the aides deciding whether to invite Kate. Why would they (they being aides or W&K) be talking to Harry about that and why would Harry be consulting Meg about that? I’d assume the Sussexes, like everyone else, just figured Kate’s wife would be there.
But if you plug in Will and Kate, it makes perfect sense. The aides talk to Will about inviting Kate, and he says one thing. Then, he talks to Kate, and changes his mind. Cause she says/does something to set him off. They’re back to square one where Wills doesn’t know whether he wants her there. The really tricky situation is the Cambridges’ crumbling marriage. Wills was flip flopping about whether to invite Kate. One minute he wants to. The next minute he talks to Kate and is reminded how much he hates her. Then he’s no longer sure.
It’s meant to sound like Meg and Harry, but is really a slight dig at the decaying marriage of W&K. It’s intentionally vague to hint that all is not well.
They had this exact quote in one of the other articles that was covered here either Sunday or Friday and in that article I took it to be about Harry being fine to sort of reconcile with Will or do what Will wants but then when he talks to Meghan she says “no, don’t do that,” and he changes his mind and gets mad again. Which is BS. But that was the original context for this quote and it was very clear that “the Duke” and “the duchess” were Harry and Meghan in that article. That article was about “can Will and Harry’s relationship between saved? Will the statue being them together?” or something like that.
But then they brought the quote in here to add some extra words and pad the article. I think what they were trying to do here was say that they’re not sure if Harry would feel “outflanked” by having Kate there if he has such bad feelings towards both of the Cambridges still, or if he’s starting to get over stuff and be less mad in general So when they just talk to Harry, he seems cool, but then when he talks to Meghan on the phone or via FaceTime, she riles him up again, and therefore no progress is being made on Project: Get Harry Back on Our Side. So basically just some general Meghan bashing, making her seem like a harpy while Harry is a bumbling idiot who has to call his wife and ask her if he’s still mad at his family. The same BS from article 1, but this time being tied to “Harry’s crazy flip flopping on whether he’s cool with us again is making it difficult for us to know whether or not Kate should be invited.”
It was really dumb of them to put the quote in this article though, since they’re also referring to Will as “The Duke” in other paragraphs because then it makes it seem like all quotes thats mention “the Duke” and “the Duchess” are about Will and Kate.
I found the other article by Google searching the quote “When they speak to the Duke he says one thing, and they think they’ve made progress and then he speaks to the Duchess and they feel they’re back to square one again,” and it’s from a telegraph article from 4 days ago called “Harry’s back in town, so will this be the week that Kate helps mend the royal rift?” by Camilla Tominey.
And the context for the quote was that since Meghan isn’t in town, this is a good time for the royals to reconnect with Harry. Then there’s a random paragraph about how Meghan is set for a brutal showdown over the bullying claims with the investigation, then there’s the quote we were talking about, then something about how there’s a bunch of sussex leaking coming out of LA “official and unofficial,” and the palace is worried about anything they say to Harry getting back to Meghan and then being leaked. I think the idea was that this would be a good time to talk to Harry and make progress but when he talks to Meghan she reminds him there’s this whole bullying investigation ongoing, then Harry changes his mind about reconciling, with some added shade that everything he tells Meghan when he’s talking to her gets leaked anyways, so they’re not really going to try that hard at reconciling with him.
@becks1
Wow thats a stretch. H&M hv nothing to do wth KP aides, FFS.
For all the teachers out there, yes, you can close read the gossip lol. Pronouns, subjects, verbs, context, reading and re-reading. Really loved this.
I caught that too. The aides are passing message between William and Kate. Things are not well.
No, the aides are not passing messages. The quote is saying that the Duke then goes to talk to the Duchess and then things change. If anything, its saying that the aides aren’t talking to the duchess, the duke and duchess are talking directly. That’s not the Cambs.
People, its about the Sussexes, its saying that Meghan is to blame for everything and she’s the reason this has been so complicated, bc after Harry talks to her he changes everything.
Agree with your reading Becks1- as intriguing as it would be if this was about W&K, from the context it’s clearly another attempt to smear the Sussexes
I dunno. Becks1, I nearly always agree with your take and recognize that you’re more perceptive on all things Royal than I am! But in this case, I read that paragraph over and over again (before looking at the comments) because it’s so vague. If we think of the “duke and duchess” as H&M, the implication becomes “We keep talking to Harry about the guest list and he says he’s fine if Kate’s there but then he talks to Meghan and she says ‘no way.’” Which … just makes no sense, I can’t bring myself to think that Meghan gives a flying f who’s there or not there. But if the “duke and duchess” is W&K, well, then it becomes “We keep talking to Will and he’s like ‘sure, leave Kate out of it, sounds good.’ But then he tells Kate (or Carole) and they yell and threaten leaks and he comes back and says ‘um, can you do something to make them stop yelling at me?’” Which IMO sounds far more plausible and true to character. But I agree 100% with everyone above who says the lead into “duke and duchess” is INTENTIONALLY misleading.
@Lionel – see I just think that makes less sense. Will isn’t changing what he tells the aides based on what Kate wants. William isn’t running plans by Kate about his mother’s statute unveiling.
The aides are agonizing over Kate’s attendance because, among other reasons, there is a concern that Harry would feel “outflanked” if she’s there and they can’t get a read on that from him. They talk to the Duke, who then talks to the Duchess, and then comes back to them. That only makes sense if its Harry because he’s dealing directly with the palace and Meghan is staying out of it. The aides wouldn’t talk to William who then talks to Kate and then comes back to the aides with a different idea. That just makes zero sense and makes it seem like William is negotiating with Kate. He’s not.
But it makes sense in the context of “oh Harry is just so controlled by his wife, he can’t even make decisions about THIS without Meghan interfering.”
So all that to say, despite all this lively debate, I think that it’s a BS story just meant to make Meghan look like a controlling bitch, yet again.
Becks- see my post above, I think what it’s really implying is Wills was constantly changing his mind about inviting Kate to the unveiling , because every time he talks to her, she makes him want to freeze her out again because every time he talks to her, he can’t stand her. Hence, why the aides could not determine whether to invite her or not.
I think that might be what it’s really referring to, disguised in vague terms to seem like a dig at bossy Meg.
It would be in line with other subtle digs from the press. Someone is yanking Wills’ chain?
I just don’t see Harry needing to constantly consult Meg, as I’d bet they discussed everything out a long time ago.
Meghan is never referred to as The Duchess (that gives her status and legitimacy they – RR/The Firm/RoyalFam- never want to admit).
It’s deliberately vague I agree, but it only makes sense if this is PWT and Buttons. PWT makes a decision, Buttons is upset, he goes to the aides and say opposite so he can tell Buttons he told them otherwise, and then he changes his mind again and it’s back to what he wanted in the first place.
To me, it looks like we are starting to get the first of the “separate households” stories that were around when C and D’s marriage started to crumble. Why else would PWT need crisis managers for his PR (forward planning for the separation). C needs it for the fall out with Harry and Meghan leaving and for making Cam Queen Consort. If PWT is meant to be using them for Sussex situation, he and they are failing miserably.
I guess it comes down to whether or not the quote is true. If it’s entirely made up, if neither Duchess is changing the mind of her Duke, then I agree it makes sense only as a Meghan-bash. (Although also agree it’s weird that they’d suddenly start using her actual title mid-bash.) If, as seems more likely now based on recent comments above, it’s a quote from an entirely different article about an entirely different subject, then it’s just sound and fury symbolizing nothing.
My interpretation was based on the assumption that an aide was making a true statement about this particular subject: who comes to the statue unveiling. So if that’s the case, I just can’t see them caring about whether Harry’s “outflanked” or what Meghan might think about any of it. So to me the quote still makes more sense as W&K if it has any resemblance to reality. But if it doesn’t, then yeah, more likely inserted to meet the Meghan-bash quota. In either case, I think we can all agree it’s deliberately misleading!
It is incredibly selfish of Keen to demand to attend a ceremony for Diana when the guest list had to be cut back and she has no connection to Diana at all. She only wants a photo in her new blue coat dress covered in buttons while displaying Diana’s ring. So to appease the selfish snot she is going a day early and private or not there will be pics from her private photographer.
I’m sure PRINCE Harry would feel ‘outflanked’ by Keen McButtons. As if. This is the Middletons throwing up excuses why McButtons won’t be there. Not because her husband can’t stand her but because poor Harry can’t take her radiant presence. Please! 🙄🙄🙄
BTW it’s telling all right. They’re telling on themselves.
If William wanted or needed Queen Kate to act as his bodyguard or prop then she would absolutely be there. Interesting shade contained in the phrase it speaks volumes. Kate and her cuties will have loads of photos taken with the statue I am sure and/ or it wouldn’t surprise me if she photo bombed the unveiling parachuting in like Her Madge at 2012_Olympics.
“if she photo bombed the unveiling parachuting in like Her Madge at 2012_Olympics” Ha! I would pay to see that for sure!
Hilarious. Is Daniel Craig around too?
If there’s no press why would she want to be there.
She took her photographer to a memorial for a murder victim. There will be a photoshopped pic of her.
This PR clownery shows the Cambridge marriage is on life support. And fear that the Middletons’ social standing will fall if there is a divorce.
Kate’s been kicking W’a ass in PR so if this was his decision, it’s because he knows it’ll be another moment of his hijacked by her presence.
The bit about the aides disinviting Kate is weird. Whose aides are they talking about? If it’s someone from Harry’s “team,” they wouldn’t have invited her and then disinvited her – they would have said “this is what Harry wants”, like with not allowing the rota. If it’s KP aides, then it’s a funny picture with them running back and forth delivering messages – couldn’t Will and Kate talk about it in person?
In any case, Harry didn’t seem to have a problem with being “outflanked” at Phillip’s funeral. And the petulant ones were Will, who wouldn’t walk next to his brother, and Andrew, who wanted to wear his fancy admiral’s costume.
I think its also interesting that kp aides (who are very much kate’s staff, and she is their boss) decided to dis-invite her. If there’s truly trouble in the Cambs marriage the palace aides have just shown us who’s side they will be on with a possible divorce. And as we have learned the last couple of years palace aides fight dirty. Lets just say it was smart for camp middleton to establish their own contacts in the media.
The Cambridges “private” visit is before the actual unveiling, right? Kate will probably leave a post-it note on the statue that says “Harry CALL ME – xoxo Kate”
Or she’ll leave behind a photo mask of her manic hyena face on top of Diana’s.
Oof. KP seems like a minefield right now: “When they speak to the Duke he says one thing, and they think they’ve made progress and then he speaks to the Duchess and they feel they’re back to square one again,” an aide told the newspaper. “It’s a really tricky situation they’re trying to balance here.” Does this sound to anyone else like aides carrying messages back and forth between two warring entities?
And also guys, Kate isn’t invited because her presence is just ToO PoWeRFul. That explains it!
I think they’re referring to Harry and Meghan in that bit
Harry and Meghan don’t’ have “aides” who would negotiate back and forth between them – and there would be no reason to include Meghan in the discussion at all, since she isn’t going to the unveiling. This is about W&K.
@Eurydice: What they’re saying is “When the Cambridges speak to Harry, they think they’ve made progress and then Harry speaks to Meghan and” yada yada yada. It’s worded weirdly yes, but again, don’t think it’s about the Cambridges.
They’re just doing the “Meghan controls Harry” narrative.
Also think it’s about the Keens. The aides are also the ones who disinvited Kate; it has nothing to do with H&M.
So all of a sudden Harry is speaking to both W&K? That hasn’t been said at all. The same Kate who hasn’t even spoken to Harry since Lili Diana was born. So when was all this negotiating happening? Because w&k are continuing to smear the Sussexes as of today.
@Sophia – Ok, then that would mean that W&K are speaking to Harry a lot, that Harry wants Kate at the ceremony, and that Meghan won’t let him go to his own mother’s dedication if Kate is going to be there, even though she didn’t care if Kate and Harry both attended Phillip’s funeral. I suppose that’s tabloid logic.
Huh. I didn’t think of that, because they usually don’t refer to Harry and Meghan by their titles! But what is there to negotiate with Harry (and puppet master Meghan 🙄) about an event with or without Kate? That makes no sense to me. I wonder if this is not about Kate at all, and Wills is again demanding to see a draft of his little brothers remarks. Otherwise, what’s left to negotiate?
Still, it doesn’t look well for William if he is still sending aides to do all of his dirty work and not speaking directly to his brother about an event honouring their late mother. Or maybe Harry is screening his calls?
@Sofia I know, you and I are on the same page, but there is confusion lol. Read the quote again everyone. it says ” then HE speaks to the Duchess and they feel they’re back to square one again.” It’s not about aides negotiating with two separate entities. The line before is about Harry feeling outflanked and the tensions between the brothers.
Aides are talking to Harry, Harry discusses the issue with Meghan, Harry goes back with something different. W&K aren’t in constant contact with H&M. The aides are frustrated bc they can’t control Harry anymore.
Do we think William is running anything by Kate? He’s not.
@Eurydice: Read what @Becks1 has said above. I know it’s worded weirdly but it’s not referring to the Cambridges.
@Sophia – LOL, I’m conceding. Yes, worded weirdly, but also weird in general. Because how do the KP aides even know that Harry is talking to Meghan? Does he tell them, “oops, never mind what I said before, Meghan says differently”? And if Harry tells the aides one thing and then changes his mind after speaking to Meghan, then that means Harry wanted Kate at the unveiling all along, which doesn’t fit with the “not wanting to be outflanked” narrative. Unless, it was Meghan who wanted Kate at the unveiling, which makes even less sense.
@Eurydice: Ha, don’t blame you. It /is/ pretty confusing. So yeah, you’ve basically got the right idea. When Harry talks to the Cambridges, they /think/ he’s cool with them hence Kate is good to go but then he goes and talks to Meghan and that’s, /to them/, when he doesn’t like them again and therefore don’t know if he would be cool with Kate coming. Again this is what /they’re/ saying and not what I actually think. It’s just their way of doing the whole “Meghan controls Harry and because of /her/, he doesn’t know how to feel about the Cambridges and so we the aides don’t know whether or not to invite Kate because Harry’s feelings towards the Cambridges changes because of that evil Meghan!”
@Becks1 explains it much better than I do in other comments.
You know what I think? I think if these idiots keep trying to make this about Harry doesn’t want Keen Kant there, he will have his press office issue a statement saying he doesn’t care one way or the other. Because, you know, he doesn’t care one way or the other. Also, this is a deliberately vague statement so that people will insert Duke (of Sussex) and Duchess (of Sussex) although that isn’t what it says. Personally, I would be surprised if Baldimort and Keen Kant are speaking directly to each other. For God’s sake people, look at W when he’s in PUBLIC around Kate. He can’t bring himself to look at her and he makes it very clear how he feels about her–and I’m not talking about anything warm and fuzzy. That’s in PUBLIC. Now imagine what it’s like when they’re behind the curtain. I think the aides are talking to W&K, separately. I also think they had to go with what W wants, because he is the heir. So, Kate, you’re seeing what your future holds.
The courtiers are likely trying to figure out which is the worse comms scenario, having her show up to the statue unveiling in a replica of a Diana outfit with all of the children dressed in William and Harry’s hand-me-downs/a dress for Charlotte made out of one of Diana’s dresses or her simultaneously holding her own completely spontaneous and totally casual event in the Diana garden with her and the kids in Diana cosplay. One they can manage and one they cannot.
Wouldn’t the people who pay attention to this event (I mean the general public, NOT those who knew and loved Diana and are genuinely moved by the ceremony,) wouldn’t the random Diana fans paying attention LOVE the fact that Kate was there cosplaying Diana and keeping her “image” and her “legacy” and her bloodline alive? Those folks seem to love Kate. I can’t imagine that would be a public relations fail for anyone except people (like this community of commenters) who weren’t going to look kindly on her anyway.
I don’t think so. My mom is a huge Diana fan and thinks that Kate is creepy and weird for dressing up like her husband’s dead mother. And she thinks the social climbing after chasing a man for 10 years is tacky. The day Kate showed up to the polo match in the Zara dress and ran to her husband when he crooked his finger, I got a random phone call from my mother telling me that she’d kill me if I ever embarrassed her by running when a man called me, even if it was my husband.
@AnneSurely: Thank you for that insight! Makes sense. I think I like your mom. (And I LOVE your name!)
Harry feeling outflanked by Kate Middleton? That’s surely a joke. Kate feeling so bad about the brothers’ relationship? More like, Kate feeling she’s lost the opportunity to gurn for the cameras and get as physically close to Harry as possible to continue the narrative that she is a needed member of the RF.
Yeah, Harry grew up surrounded by pomp, he meets with powerful world leaders regularly and did two tours of Afghanistan. But yes, having Kate present at the unveiling might be too much for him. Suuuuuuure.
Kate’s team are succeeding only in making her ‘solid as a rock’ marriage sound very fragile. Why don’t they back down? Focusing on Kate’s determination to be there, while not being wanted by her husband, is aligning the narrative to a breaking relationship not between the brothers but between her and her husband.
Kate needs William to need her and her family. If William solves his own problems, where does that leave Kate? The Cambridges are not good for each other.
IMO William doesn’t want Kate to go because she will steal the spotlight from him with the mediator story/ fashion. I doubt Harry cares if she is there or not. My guess is in general when Kate attends there is more interest then when William is alone, just the nature of celebrity . I think this is true of Sophie/ Edward also. Not sure Charles/ Camilla- definitely when it was Charles/ Diana.
All these people doing this spin about Kate are also forgetting that Diana’s siblings will also be there. Maybe they don’t want to get involved in palace nonsense and before this decision, there was all this talk of Kate the peacemaker, and making it about her, instead of focusing on why this event is happening right now. Kate with her needy desperation and Will with his Nixonian obsession with hating on Meghan. Honestly, this brouhaha isn’t Harry’s business, he just has to show up and give a speech.
Doesn’t Kate have three kids to keep her busy? When my kids were young I wouldn’t have even wanted to bother with some unveiling ceremony. But I’m not interested in the spotlight, I guess Kate is. Even though she often seems uncomfortable in it.
She has nannies and a housekeeper among other staff.
Ann, you point out an interesting dichotomy – Kate is interested in the spotlight even though she often seems uncomfortable in it. I think it’s because Kate’s reach exceeds her grasp — she loves the spotlight and at times seems to bask in it but she doesn’t have the smarts or drive or focus to do anything other than ponce around in expensive, bespoke clothing and jewels and have photogs tripping over themselves to get the best shot (i.e. Philip’s funeral). Other than that, she can barely string 6 words together to form a sentence, hence her noticeable discomfort when she has to do more than look pretty. The unveiling would have been a perfect opportunity for her to do some Diana cosplay and look melancholy and serious, so William has caused her to miss out on creating public sympathy for her.
I’m watching the Euros (football competition) and they just showed the happy couple *sarcasm* William and George are sitting side by side. Then it looks like there’s one, maybe two empty seats, then Kate. That’s how big the space is between them!! She’s looking down at her phone (?) or staring off into the distance. Just…there. I don’t know why she bothered come (we all know why). William should have taken George and then sat with Becks.
Guarantee you she forced herself into that outing. I just know she’s losing it over this statue unveiling shutout. Like folks have said, this was going to be her Super Bowl and Met Ball.
Also, it’s messed up that the other kids aren’t at the game. They’re always doing things where George is solo but they never do that for Charlotte or Louis. Has Kate ever been seen solo at an event with Charlotte, like a girls only thing?
I don’t want to thread jack because I know we will discuss this tomorrow, but william made a deliberate decision in where he decided to sit which excluded Kate. He moved down two seats in the VVIP section and there is a gap and then the red VIP seats. Which is why Kate seems to be sitting so much further away.
Do you know if there were other seats and he could have moved down? Or maybe there were and he refused and she refused to sit next to me by going to the other side.
Saw the pics on People’s website. The photos of those two look like Charles-and-Di-in-South-Korea cosplay. Such lovebirds. And poor George looks so stuffy and buttoned up. Let the child wear a soccer jersey and shorts!
George looked very uncomfortable It seemed that he was given special attention again as the Heir. and Spares stayed home. Kate was grinning away. George dressed in that suit was a bit much. It reminded me of those “dynasty” pictures in the early 1900s with the heir standing at attention saluting the troops (when he is age 6). I think they will trot out the kids again after the memorial and there will be more talk of “granny Diana” to the media by William.
The first thing narcissists do when they’ve painted themselves into a corner financially, legally, professionally, inter-personally or otherwise, is detract, distract, deflect and blame everyone else. Keen and Mean are playing out the end of their marriage in a very public way by making a big screaming deal out of bashing Harry and Meghan however they can, blaming them for EvERytHInG, plus fighting their own personal battles through Carol(E) and their individual PR camps. It’s so obvious it’s laughable. The marriage is all but over and Kate will NOT win this war. She’ll eventually have to capitulate — trying to push back against the BRF when they already don’t like you is an impossible task.
Why is she so obsessed with attending? Oh wait…….
Oh you guys are so great, love this site and the comments here gives me life
I tried to comment on a different thread but it didn’t go so I guess it was bc of links
Anyway, not native and trying my best.
I have a new hobby which is Tarot reading.
I love the symbols and find it usefull for inner search. I don’t use it for future readings.
So I remembered a comment about someone who did a spread on W&K and thought to myself, why not me?
So I asked the cards permission to ask because this is totally for gossip, got it, and WOW.
I pulled 3 cards to represent Will, Kate and the relationship.
Sometimes you don’t need to know the card meaning because it is so obvious like this case.
Please look for the cards on google , I will not add links for that hoping this time my comment will be published.
Will got the 4 of swords.
If you look on the card you see a tomb and 4 swords facing it.
What a great metaphor for W in the realathionship.
This card meaning is that you need time out to think on things, of taking time alone to get your mind set, fear, and anxiety.
Kate got the 8 of swords.
Please look this up before continuing reading.
This card is exactly what is commented on her here.
She is trapped, she can’t see the whole picture her hands are tied.
I really feel sorry for her to be honest, I think she has a similar but much easier Britney situation in her life, her mother sold her out, she doesn’t have 1 true friend in her life she must do as they say.
Anyway, this card is about feeling trapped , restricted, fear, terror and powerlessness.
The swords are represented as an air element which is only mind and logic, no emotions , I find it interesting.
The card for relationship was the death card.
Before you jump, No , no divorce here, wait for it.
The death card is for an end of an era, of a new begining, of something ending , that you are losing something, but earning something new.
This card with W card who shows him as taking time to reflected and think got me thinking that maybe after he will finish his thinking something big will happen.
We know he has the power and she will stay married to him in any way.
So I asked the cards for clarification on the death card and got the ace of cups.
One of the meaning of this card is for a pregnancy with a girl.
I asked for another one asking if Kate will be pregnant and got the Empress card which is THE card of fertility pregnancy and abundance.
I asked when and got the kings of pentacles which represent the Capricorn sign .
That will mean she is the end of her first trimester which I doubt , but some readers say it is connected to taurus sign which mean getting pregnant in August that seem more reasonable.
So that was me and let’s see what will happen.
#prayforbandaidbaby
We should all be scared of the possibility IMO.
Anyway, I also play Tarot, so I enjoy reading about others’ interpretations. All I can say is that DEFINITELY if Kate feels trapped, her first instinct would be to try for a baby 4, especially if you remember TQ has also four children, the last one being a band aid baby (reportedly)
Maybe this is what is inside her head, there was this strange article about her wanting a fourth baby some time ago? Personally, it is a very bad idea, but who knows?
Methinks their part time separation is becoming permamnet one, hence all the MIddleton PR. If kate was pregnant, she would be feeling much more secured and happy to disappear, as she does. The fact Ma Middleton, Uncle Gary and Kate are all out there reminding William how much he owes them reeks desperation, not a fourth baby.
I’m thinking that could also be that there will be the death of the marriage, or a big change in it, so that William (or Kate) can find happiness (Ace Cups). I always see the 4 of swords as like “sleeping on the job”/stuck/refusing to wake up and see/do what needs to be done. Which could be Will right now. And then when he wakes up, he makes his big change (death card). Kate then becomes the Empress (mother/Queen) of her own little Middleton fiefdom from her new location in/near Bucklebury. Could that be what makes her happy (Ace cups)?
Or could the death that is related to pregnancy and mothers, be something like a miscarriage that happened recently? That might even work with your theory that she would be at the end of her third trimester. Maybe she would have been but isnt.
Or maybe we even get Death of a marriage, because of a pregnancy (ace cups) that’s near the end of its first trimester. Could Will have gotten someone pregnant and that’s why Kate is moving away to her parents’ and focusing on the children and being a mother/being her own Empress for once in her life, no longer living an 8 of swords life of being trapped and bound?
Ok it’s been theorized in these comments that they scheduled the joint appearance at the England/Germany game to rebut these speculations. The pics from that appearance are rolling in and HOLY SHIT that won’t work. They are as far apart as they can possibly be and look miserable. Anyone who thinks they are on the rocks is not going to feel rebutted in the least!
Sorry I hope this doesn’t count as a thread jack this all seems to be part of the same swirl of speculation.
Omg you’re right. Those are baaaaad
@Kaiser Your summary of this is my fave read of the day! 😀
I can’t (yes I can) believe they are trying to blame Harry for this bs.
If Kate isn’t there it’s because William doesn’t want her there. Period.
That’s how their relationship has ALWAYS worked. Whatever William wants.
I am with you, Kaiser, this absolute meltdown on the Cambridges’ part is hilarious.
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Too many vague pronoun references in the piece. Rewrite for comprehension, please. In addition, please make certain to cite each source near each individual source. Citing both sources lumped together at the end is likely adding to the pronoun and meaning confusion. Good draft, but needs polishing. _Due no later than after school/4PM tomorrow_. Thank you.
I find it completely bizarre Kate might not attend. She didn’t just have a baby; she doesn’t live a continent away, etc. What’s the real reason? For weeks (months) we have been told she is William’s ROCK. Well, shouldn’t William and the Rock be together at this event? If something was being done to honor one of my husband’s parents, there is no way I wouldn’t be there. Further, I would think the powers-that-be would welcome Kate’s presence because, after all, as we saw at Prince Phillip’s funeral, she is the ultimate “peacemaker.” ???? They really have backed themselves into a corner.
This is a Middleton hit piece with some quotes from courtiers, look at the sources.
*according to family sources (this is a friend of the family designated to talk to the press on behalf of the Middletons)
*anything making it seem like William said it, is coming from a courtier
*Kate’s friend (again a friend who is designated to speak to the press)
Points 1 and 4 are from Middleton sources (that includes Kate through a friend or someone close to her family using a third party)
Points 2, 3, and 5 are from courtiers