Duchess Kate is just trying to ‘alleviate her husband’s stress and sadness’

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For whatever record, I do think there’s something big going on between the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, I just don’t believe divorce is on the immediate horizon. I think they’re just going to do the secret-separation thing for a while. I’ve believed for the past year that they’re living separately all the time now, and that they’re just barely making it through their joint appearances together. I also believe that we need to keep our eye on the “send them to Scotland” rumors and the “looking at buying a home in Bucklebury” rumors. I would guess that Kate isn’t looking to move to Scotland, but she is looking to base herself closer to Carole. The rumors about the state of the Cambridge marriage are percolating to the mainstream media too, especially since it’s looking more and more like William has told Kate that she can’t come to the statue-unveiling on Thursday. Which is why Kate and the Middleton PR ran straight to Camilla Tominey for a sympathetic piece about how Kate just wants to support poor, weak William and how Kate is so much better than Meghan. I’m not joking.

Kate Middleton is ‘not the type to get het up’ in Oprah fallout and is just trying to help ‘bring the family back together and alleviate her husband’s stress and sadness,’ a source has claimed.

The Duchess of Cambridge, 39, may not be attending the unveiling of Princess Diana’s statue at Kensington Palace on Thursday, but she is playing a pivotal role behind the scenes, according to royal expert Camilla Tominey.

During an explosive chat with Oprah Winfrey in March, Meghan Markle, 39, claimed Kate made her cry before she married Prince Harry. ‘The Duchess hasn’t said much about Oprah at all,’ one source said, according to the royal expert, writing in The Telegraph. ‘I think the bridesmaids’ dress comments were the least of anyone’s worries. And she’s not really the type to get het up about these sorts of things. She’s just trying to help to bring the family back together and alleviate her husband’s stress and sadness.’

They continued: ‘The question for the Duke is whether he is able to override the short term pain and damage to get back to the place he once was with his brother. It’s very difficult when the trust has basically gone.’

According to royal expert Camilla Tominey, before Prince Harry and Meghan sat down with Oprah, Kate was the one informing friends she didn’t think it was too late to ‘pull them back in’.

The Duke of Cambridge and the Duke of Sussex are expected to put any tensions aside for the poignant event on Thursday, but a reunion appears to be off the cards. Another source has claimed the brother will ‘put on a brave face’ just like they did at their late grandfather Prince Philip’s funeral on 17 April because the poignant event is not about them but remembering their beloved mother.

They added: ‘But the idea that this can all be forgiven and forgotten… it’s going to take a lot longer than a couple of days.’

[From The Daily Mail]

It’s been pretty obvious that Kate’s PR has diverged from William’s PR for a while now. I actually think the start of it might have been the Tatler debacle in May and June 2020. That was when Kate was trying so desperately to sound like the Top CEO who runs the show in Camp Cambridge, only to see the Norfolk aristocrats get their revenge. That was when things started to get weird between Will & Kate and it began to spill out in the British papers, but only in a subtle way for now. Anyway, I think Kate and the Middletons are playing a really dangerous game here. They’re consistently painting William as weak, emotional and unstable, and in constant need of his wife to help soothe his angry-baby feelings. William’s PR is “Kate raises the children, she’s fine.” But yeah… you can really tell that Kate is mad about William telling her to stay away from the unveiling. As I said, a dangerous game.

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  1. Snuffles says:

    They’re just putting a target on their back. It won’t be long before William switches gears and starts throwing the Middletons under the bus.

    I think William’s current life goals is to get Harry back under his thumb to be his eternal bitch and the get Kate as far away from him as humanly possible so he can shag other women with impunity.

    • Princess Peach says:

      Correct. And as we saw from the Tattler debacle there are a lot of people waiting in the wings to put them in their place.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      The middarshians are deluded if they think they will have public support in the event of an announced separation or divorce. We may not like William but the public will turn on waity quicker than you can say top ceo.

      • Cecilia says:

        The public will only turn on kate if there’s dirt about her that seriously makes her look bad. And i’m talking about something serious like her being on tape openly disrespecting the queen or being caught cheating herself. Otherwise people will just wave it off or they will not care. This is also why i don’t think there’s a divorce brewing just yet. If william truly wants a divorce the smearing of kate in the media would go up a notch. Because the last thing they want is another divorce (ex) future queen who’s husband cheated on her while poor little her was trying to do the best she can.

      • Maria says:

        In order for the public to have to turn on Kate the public would have to love her in the first place. Besides the stans who hate Meghan, I don’t think people care that much about her.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Cecilia
        Her or her family. There’s already uncle Gary and all his illegal activities like child sex trafficking and drugs. Carole’s business has not been transparent in forever to prove it didn’t launder that money.

        All it would really take is the press being unsupportive of Kate. That’s it.

      • February-Pisces says:

        The best the middletons will get is apathy. No one will care about them. But I think in the event of a separation Keenbridge stans will lean to Kate’s side because it’s her they relate to. She’s the representative of dull mediocre women and if she’s wronged, it reflects how they would feel if they were wronged by their husbands.

        Willie would have to leak some pretty damning tea to turn it around, which I’m sure he has and would do without hesitation.

      • Mac says:

        I think the stories about William’s rage are coming from the Midds. They are painting William as toxic so if they do separate it looks like Kate is protecting the kids.

      • GRUEY says:

        Ok here’s my theory. Bulliam has a Tory friend who was able to get an indictment for Gary and maybe the Mids drawn up and ready to go for when he’s ready to pull the trigger. The Mids suspect this and that’s why Gary’s out there demand that Kate be Queen right fucking now because he’s worried he and the Mids are all going to jail as part of the campaign to jettison Kate. The windsors would need something BIG if they are going to avoid sympathy for Kate and an actual prosecution for drug dealing and sex trafficking, particularly if they can say Kate knew and profited? Well that’s pretty decent.

        Also, once again I will say wow this is such a great gossip mystery!!!! The timing of this article is WILD. It falls so directly in line with the theories y’all have laid out here. Like how many of you said we would be seeing EXACTLY this type of shit and the SEPARATE OUTTING for the Cambridges to get papped?? Really you all have ESP

      • Nic919 says:

        It wouldn’t be hard to get someone in the media to connect the dots at Kate being the one whole put out the false crying story that remains uncorrected to this day and which knowingly caused grief to Meghan to the point that she was requesting help. The absolute bigots wouldn’t care, but there are plenty of others who if they read the facts in this manner wouldn’t find Kate to be so blameless.

      • notasugarhere says:

        They’re playing right into William’s hands with this. As long as he claims he was emotionally unstable, manipulated by the Middletons after Diana’s death? He gets a pass on all of it. As Nic919 writes, Kate and her family’s role in attacking Meghan for four years may also be dragged out. Kate is the reason beloved Harry left, etc.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Notasugarhere, that’s exactly what I think. When Diana died when he was 15, and just a few year later here comes Keen and Ma Middlin’. I honestly believe the brf can spin this that the Middlin’s took advantage of a traumatized 19/20 year old. He’s Diana’s son, and that will do damage to Keen and Ma, etc. Throw in Uncle hookers and blow (someone else came up with this, I really like it), and I think IF PW has any addiction issues . . . Uh&b will be responsible for that along with Keen Ma. I think the publicity from Mids against H&M will also be brought out. These people are not playing the game in an intelligent way at all. I luv it!

      • equality says:

        Of course the BM can spin things against Kate. Look at what they’ve done by spinning things H&M have said, even with video proof that the BM is misquoting.

    • Justjj says:

      This seems to be the emerging pattern every time we hear anything from William.

      • Giggles says:

        The Windsors don’t seem to have a strategy that DOESN’T include throwing someone under the bus.

  2. Eurydice says:

    If Kate is so calm and soothing and doesn’t get het up about such unimportant things like bridesmaid’s dresses, then why does she say Meghan made her cry? She could have waived the story away, just as Meghan did – there was an apology, it was accepted, move on.

    Will is struggling under the bus lately, isn’t he?

    • SaySo says:

      Yes! I don’t know why people see ol’ Duct Tape Kate as the ” fix-all” for this family. I wish they would give it a rest though.

    • Layla says:

      The way the rat rota continue to portray William as a rage monster, they make him sound like he might have Intermittent Explosive Disorder.

    • Dee says:

      It’s very strange that there is no passion in the William and Kate relationship. Even Charles and Diana had some romantic moments early on and there was fire in their arguments. What I’m seeing from Bill is more like anxiety and angst. I suspect he was never into her at all and his interests are more eclectic. He thought he was okay with the veneer of the happy family, but he’s seen Harry bolt and now feels impatience and despair with his own life.

      • iconoclast59 says:

        In the early days of their marriage, even though there wasn’t much passion, W&K seemed very amiable together. They kidded around, were lightheartedly competitive and seemed very comfortable with each other. I attributed the lack of spark to the fact that they went to uni together, cohabitated, and took their time getting engaged. I figured they’d moved beyond the can’t-keep-their-hands-off-each-other phase to the “(he’s)(she’s) my best friend” stage.

        Fast forward to today. William acts like he can barely stand to be around Kate, and Kate’s desperately trying to pretend that everything’s okay with her over-exaggerated displays of enthusiasm and keenness. It does make you wonder: Did the passion die? Or was it never there in the first place?

    • candy says:

      Kate is always 110% polished for every event, to the point of being overdone. Effortless chic is not her style trope. I can believe that she was fanatical about the bridesmaids’ dresses.

    • Meg says:

      Its such hypocrisy isnt it? Kate making up the lie isnt petty but meghan pointing out its BS thats whats petty

  3. Elizabeth Regina says:

    Says the source of his stress and sadness! Lol

    • Myra says:

      Besides, isn’t that what Rose is for?

      • Talia says:

        I would be astounded if Rose was still on the scene. If she was the mistress (and not just supplying somewhere for assignations with a woman or women unknown), she signed up for a discreet affair not becoming William’s Camilla. She and her husband have an arrangement that they both seem quite happy with. I suspect the publicity caused her to break things off sharpish.

    • I said yesterday that the House Middleton would start pushing the ‘Kate working so hard behind the scenes, Kate exhausted in trying to reconcile the brothers’ line of attack. And, here we have the first salvo. I agree with KAISER, things must be escalating in whatever is really going on in House Cambridge.

  4. Andrew’s Nemesis says:

    This is all a set-up for the eventual divorce. Wiglets and Mrs Bennett are damn well going to make sure that the public is on her daughter’s side, making it appear that Wiglets had no choice but to leave, that PWT is just So Weak and just So Irascible that he made life unbearable. I imagine that his stress and sadness will be alleviated the day she hands back Big Blue and he gets to premiere his lawyer-mistress.

    • Angie says:

      What is this about a lawyer -mistress?! It’s already rumored who this person is? I wouldn’t put it past him to want someone more like Meghan (ie. Intelligent, well-spoken) and use that to try to compete with Harry even further.

    • Snuffles says:

      This will be interesting. I’m sure the Middletons are trying to spin themselves and Kate as the injured party, but William would hang ALL their dirty laundry out in public in retaliation. The only winners will be the tabloids.

    • Sofia says:

      Huh? What’s this about a lawyer?

    • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

      Rumours have been going around London – including a sighting by a friend of yours truly, and I’ve never known them to lie – that PWT has been seeing a lawyer some ten years younger than he. Could be innocent, of course. And he and Rose were just playing footsie (cough cough).

      • Sofia says:

        I /do/ remember rumours of a lawyer and a banker also being involved with William at the height of the Rose rumours. Nothing more ever came of it so I just shrugged it off as speculation or theories (and yes the Rose stuff is also speculation but at least that has had discussions and acknowledgement by people)

        Could be innocent like you say because makes me wonder why a lawyer would want to have an affair with a married man who’s looks are degrading everyday. Yes he’s the FFK but she’ll get slut shamed and blamed if it comes out publicly so again, don’t see the point beyond “omg I’m sleeping with the next next King!”. So the allure of power and bragging rights I suppose.

      • Lori says:

        His pr game changed when he took his heir and spare out on Father’s day with out her. He’s letting her know that he doesn’t need her anymore than Prince Albert needs Charlene. So if she wants to move back home to Buckleberry to her mother, or go on to SA and get a condo next door to Charlene, she can go right on ahead.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        Those rumours have been around since before pandemic etc.. – if its something that’s been going on long term that would suggest that he serious about her and could be why he’s distanced himself from Kate and the kids.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Lori yup, that Father’s Day outing was very telling.

        I don’t know if a divorce is imminent -none of us know really – but even if they start living separate lives at this point it wouldn’t be “secret.”

        I will say that the househunting story made me think a divorce was closer than many of us thought bc how can they justify a third house for the family? How does it make sense? How is Charles or the Queen willing to pay for it? It doesn’t, and they’re not, unless its Kate’s parting gift. So I think we’ll know more if its ever confirmed that they are going to buy a house in Berkshire.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        The lawyer rumors definitely predate rose. Rose was the big rumored affair, but it’s been whispered William has had several affairs during the course of his engagement and marriage.

      • Harper says:

        @Andrew’s Nemesis–I’m wondering where this sighting of Will and NotRose Sidepiece happened? Perhaps in one of those private clubs where Prince Mad Again felt it was okay to let his guard down? Or a weekend house party where she was his plus one? Did your friend provide any more details that you feel comfortable enough to hint at?

      • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

        @Harper I don’t feel comfortable revealing any more at present – perhaps I’ll send my friend over to CB to fill everyone in – but it’s happened in the past year.

      • Nic919 says:

        I recall hearing about a lawyer based in London when the Rose affair came out because more than one person said that he’s having an affair but not with the person that is being covered in the media.

      • notasugarhere says:

        There was talk of another woman in Wales, right before the engagement to Kate. And perhaps another one in Wales after George was born.

      • I’ve always thought Rose wasn’t —- the one —- just one of many. Charles had multiple, overlapping mistresses and I think William is perfectly capable of it at any given time. Maybe the ‘lawyer’ is his Camilla. However, I’ve also thought that subtly keeping the ‘Rose’ relationship drifting around in the press allows William privacy with whomever he is seeing. Just as William uses Meghan and Harry as cannon fodder, I can see him using Rose-rumors as a shield for whatever he is really up to with the ladies.

    • S808 says:

      Oohh I saw a tweet about miss lawyer. If it’s the same woman, he’s allegedly been seeing even before the rose situation.

      • Robin says:

        Perhaps it’s a divorce lawyer he’s having an affair with – two birds with one stone!

    • bamaborn says:

      All of this! Bill and his people know Kate can not measure up. To rehab the image of that ole institution, he’s going to have to have someone who can speak in complete sentences and not stand around grinning all the time. So undiplomatic. And, he treats her like dirt because she allows it. Picture the “West Coast Royals” walking the red carpet with the “Salty Isle Royals.” People would lap it up. Lol

    • notasugarhere says:

      The public will never be on the side of the Middletons. The off-shore tax-evading business, the Nazi party packs, Uncle Gary’s drug and wife beating past, the child labour-made party supplies, manipulating a vulnerable teenage William after his mother’s death. All of that and more will be dragged out into the sunlight when William decides to go nuclear on them. The Middletons will lose big.

  5. Sunday says:

    I agree that they’ve been living separately but aren’t going to divorce. William would not want a divorce right now any more than Kate would – for Kate it’s the title and the crown that she’s not going to give up, but William would never let Harry “win” at something, and so he would not “fail” at his marriage while Harry and Meghan are swooning about deeply in love. He’ll stay married to Kate out of pure spite, excluding or until enough time passes and/or something happens that he feels superior enough to Harry in particular and to everyone else in general that he’ll officially pull the plug. It’s not like him being married has any impact on who he cavorts around with; he carries on like a bachelor anyway, whether he’s married or not makes no difference to him.

    • Cws says:

      ^This. Something rings true about William viewing marriage as a competitive sport.

    • Lizzie says:

      I agree with your analysis but I also think that 10 years is a bit of a benchmark. If he puts off divorce much longer he cannot claim they were incompatible and it will look like he is trading her in for a newer model and she will be the sympathetic one who was in it for the long haul and put up with his affairs.

      • Sunday says:

        I don’t think William would care about that, though. To him, he wouldn’t need to hide behind the excuse of being incompatible – he’d think he *deserves* a newer, hotter, smarter, better model because he’s the FFK and his ego demands it (assuming he can find someone willing to play the part). He’d have no qualms about destroying Kate’s reputation to the point where he came out the sympathetic one, mother of his children or not. I wouldn’t put it past him to make Kate the scapegoat of the whole sussexit smear debacle and pretend his hands are clean, if he think it suits him more than briefing the press about how incandescent he is all the time.

      • Lizzie says:

        Very true Sunday.

      • pottymouth pup says:

        but wouldn’t the optics be really bad?

        why wouldn’t he just placate Kate with the whole separate lives routine that allows her to become Queen (or Queen Consort) if she’s willing to accept that. why would a divorce actually be needed unless one of them wants desperately to remarry and/or there’s an extra-marital pregnancy?

    • swirlmamad says:

      This makes sense — that William doesn’t want Harry to get yet another one-up on him by having a successful, loving marriage — but I also think there’s a lot of truth to the theories that he’s living on borrowed time right now. He only has a certain window of time that he can wiggle out of this sham marriage before he gets the POW title, and I think we can pretty much be certain that neither he nor Charles wants Kate to get her hands on that title if things are as bad as we all suspect. I think ol’ Willy is really in between a rock and hard place right now, and that’s why his face is deteriorating by the day.

      • Rapunzel says:

        He wants someone like Meg, for sure. Only white. I wonder if this got him changing his affairs to try and find a “suits”able replacement? Pun intended.

      • HeyJude says:

        I think Rapunzel’s right here.

        10 years has been LOOONGGG time to potentially suffer through with the wrong person. A lifetime is even longer.

        All of us humans want a love match really regardless of who we are, it’s our nature.

        So William’s facing a choice right now- be Charles and find a true love, that although it was inconvenient with divorce and all, he will genuinely enjoy spending the remainder of his life with.

        Or be Phillip and Elizabeth, who were stuck in a love-less, transactional marriage for most of their lives and not pleasantly. They lived separately and although they both got to do what they wanted, cavort with whomever they wanted, it was ultimately quite a pathetic arrangement and became a chore, until they only parted through death after 8 decades or so of unhappily being hitched.

        An 8 decade sentence of being chained to Kate is one hell of a punishment, when there’s a very viable alternative in marrying for love.

      • Nic919 says:

        I also believe that Philip respected his wife on one level, even if he wasn’t that faithful. You never saw from him the disdain or lack of respect that is in William’s face when he looks at Kate or hears her speak.

    • Harper says:

      But if Will has snagged a lawyer for Wife #2, that is an advanced degree beyond even what Meghan has earned, and Will becomes the man with the more highly educated wife. So dumping Kate, who was a “youthful mistake” in favor of a match that meets his needs as a curious, intelligent statesman, a diplomat and future king, is a win. Kate will always be a much loved (cough cough) member of the extended royal family, but as he’s matured, Prince Mad Again came to understand that a different sort of partner would serve the monarchy, and the country’s needs, much better.

      • Cee says:

        They married at 29. That’s not a youthful mistake. I don’t like Kate one bit but him doing that would be insulting.
        Better to say he’s no longer in love and wants to give his children an idea of what a loving marriage is instead of two parents who can barely be in the same room together.

      • Harper says:

        He’s been with Kate since he was 19/20? That’s a rut, a pattern, a groove, that a young man suffering from untreated trauma may not have the tools to lift himself out of. So we don’t go back to when he was married, but to who he was when the relationship began, why he gravitated toward Kate and the Middletons, and how their presence provided a certain type of immediate comfort but kept his trauma only at bay. I think Will wanted someone other than Kate, but when he left her, he had nothing to fall back on. No real family unit and Will was always easily reeled back in by the Midds. So youthful mistake has some credence.

    • TabithaD says:

      I do think there’s been trouble between W+K for a while. Remember that time when she shook his hand off her shoulder (was it that thing they did with Mary Berry a few years back?) – that was pure repulsion.
      I’d heard rumours about a lawyer too (I’m in London), from a few different sources – which makes me think there’s something to it. But no further details than that.
      For what it’s worth, I think the public might be quite forgiving of a second wife in due course, especially if this one works, has her own “causes” and can string a sentence together. Although of course William may not like it if she shows him up

      • Bess says:

        What about that fact that Louis is only three years old? I think it looks bad to leave a marriage when a three year old is involved. At least George and Charlotte are old enough to be in school every day.

      • Sofia says:

        @Bess Well he’s not going to stay 3 forever will he? He could be in school full time as soon as next year. I don’t think they’ll divorce but Louis won’t be a 3 year old forever nor will he stay a kid forever.

      • notasugarhere says:

        It looks far worse to stay in a miserable marriage, one that makes your children unhappy. Better to divorce when the kids are young enough to adapt more easily.

        Joachim and Alexandra in Denmark were on the rocks even before their second son was born. Held in there for the public, and while Fred was dragging his feet about marrying Mary. They separated when Felix was just over 2 years old. Now they’re all one big happy blended family with Joachim’s second wife and two more kids.

      • swirlmamad says:

        @Bess, I know several people personally who divorced before their children turned 5. Is it ideal — not at all. But still better than limping through a terrible marriage and setting a less than positive example for your children.

      • Ann says:

        I’m not British but the public there eventually accepted a divorce with Charles, even if they don’t like him that much in general. I imagine they would accept it with William, too, especially if the eventual new wife is articulate, a credit to him, yada yada. As for Louie, he has not only a mother but an extended family on her side that is close and involved. William would have to be a relatively hands-on divorced father, of course, but I imagine he knows that.

        I don’t like Kate at all but I do feel kind of badly for her. She was very young when they met too, and her mother had an agenda. But she’ll be just fine. Better off without him, IMO, if they divorce.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Neither William nor Charles wants two dueling Princesses of Wales running around. If W&K are headed for divorce, Charles and William will have an agreement. He will hold off on naming William as POW as long as it takes for Kate to be out of the picture. William moves on with new Title and New Wife, while Kate is left with a title no one else uses.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Duchess of Cornwall or Duchess of Cambridge?????

      • Sofia says:

        @BayTampaBay: Once the queen dies, she’ll be “The Duchess of Cornwall and Cambridge” until William gets the Prince of Wales title

      • Becks1 says:

        And even then – whether Cornwall or Cambridge (if its before the queen passes), she’ll lose her HRH and “just” be Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge instead of HRH The Duchess of Cambridge, right?

        So the press et al will just continue to call her Kate Middleton for the rest of her days.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Yes, she’ll lose the HRH. The Queen wrote new letters patent in summer 1996, that anyone divorcing out of the family loses the HRH. Fergie originally kept hers, but after Diana exchanged hers for more money from Charles? Queen made it official for everyone.

  6. equality says:

    I notice how BM and twitter users are downplaying somebody being made to cry if that somebody was Meghan. When it was Meghan made Kate cry it was “how awful she is”. When it’s Kate made Meghan cry, it’s no big deal and nothing to get “het up” about. Is it just the change in society and advancement of social media or all down to race that Sophie can have an “interview” with an undercover reporter and make snide remarks about the RF and government and then just go on to become a “working” royal but H&M saying basically nice things about the majority of the family are pariahs?

  7. Robin says:

    Kate, dear, I think your husband would rather someone with Rose scented fingers alleviated his stress!

    • Cecilia says:

      During that scotland tour i didn’t exactly look like his anger was soothed by her presence.

  8. Cecilia says:

    “Kate will play a pivotal role in bringing the family back together behind the scene’s” GIRL, harry don’t care for this woman and i doubt he’s going to listen to anything she has to say.

  9. SarahCS says:

    Yeah, no go on this one Keen Lynchpin McButtons. He’s probably knee deep in the Rose garden right now.

    I really appreciate the commentary on these stories (and comments), it’s fascinating to see how their strategies are playing out and how different they are.

  10. Eleonor says:

    ” They’re consistently painting William as weak, emotional and unstable, and in constant need of his wife” except for the need of his wife the rest is a pretty accurate description of William.
    I don’t think they will divorce, she will stick around no matter what, and probably they have an agreement somewhere, who knows.
    But the aristos friends of Willy hate her, if I remember correctly, she tried to cut them out of her husband life, I think they will go after her, in a way or another.

    • thaisajs says:

      Yeah, I feel like this weak storyline isn’t a great one for him and the Middletons really need to cut it out. He’s heir to the throne and the grey men will protect him, not her, no matter what. The monarchy is already on shaky grounds post-Oprah interview and Charles is not his mother. When she’s gone, there’s going to be a re-evaluation of the monarchy, I imagine, and having the next in line to the throne also a weak, philandering crybaby isn’t likely to be terribly appealing to the British taxpayers who’re funding all this nonsense.

  11. Merricat says:

    She wants to alleviate his stress and sadness with a new photo opportunity.

  12. Zebz says:

    In all of their recent pictures William never looks at Kate. Even when he’s trying to act happy and smiling, he doesn’t look at her. Kate is trying to put up a United front, or at least give something, and William refuses to play along. Crazy.

    • candy says:

      He never really looked at her though? Although, I agree their body language is different now.

  13. A says:

    Thought we were going for a sex thing with the article’s title and was momentarily more interested in what the British media were saying about the Cambridges’ marriage than I have been in years.

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      Haha! Yep, my mind went there too. Thinking, well at least they’re writing something new now. But, no, instead it’s another version of Kate doing the same old thing they’ve been writing about and that is somehow suppose to make her a better wife than all other wives.

  14. MsIam says:

    The whole “Meghan made Kate cry” saga was used for years to show that Meghan was this terrible evil person. Look “she made poor sweet Kate cry, she probably kicks kittens too!” Now all of a sudden its no big deal to Kate because she’s not the sort to get “het up” about bridesmaids dresses? ? Lol, the wheels are all coming off.

  15. (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

    These things, combined with TOBB’s Covid (and none of his kids nor his wife got sick), coupled with them starting to Zoom from Sandringham instead of Anmer, coupled with the increased tension (clenched hands/jaws), that OVER produced 10th Anniversary L.L. Bean commercial, coupled with TOBB saying he doesn’t spend much time with his kids, coupled with his looks of utter disdain and boredom whenever he’s around The 2nd Coming for TRF, coupled with house hunting in Berkshire (along with ALL the Midd-Kids… more and more points to separation. And not a “public” separation, but an “under the covers” one, for now anyway.

    The Keen 2nd Coming with hold on with all the strength her toned, scrawny arms can hold with, but as we know from past experiences, when TOBB wants out finally, she’s toast in the Dowager house.

    • LainieR says:

      To me the lack of COVID spread is solid proof. I do case management of COVID. It rips through homes and rarely excludes anyone. He wasn’t living at home.

      • Cee says:

        They have a large enough manor house/apartment for him to isolate without exposing them to the virus. They do not live in a 2 bedroom apartment/house.
        I know of friends and family members who were able to isolate in an extra room and not get their family infected even if everyone in the house quarantined for 15 days.

      • notasugarhere says:

        If they were sleeping in the same bed nightly, it is unlikely he wouldn’t have spread it to Kate *before* he even knew he had it.

        And by March/April, he could have been living at the main house at Sandringham or at Wood Farm. Philip had been removed by then, COVID bubbling with the Queen.

      • Cee says:

        Nota, I know people who did not get infected even when sharing a bed, kissing and having sex. This virus is ridiculous in how and when it spreads, and who gets infected. And yes, everyone got tested.
        I believe it is misinformation when stating that people living in the same house, sharing a bed, will always get infected. Even if it is more likely William spends as little time as possible with his wife.

      • notasugarhere says:

        And yet I’ll continue to go with the dozen friends and family I have in the bedside medical profession. Kate not getting COVID when William claims to have had a raging case? Incredibly suspicious. Unless of course, they were already living in completely separate homes on the Sandringham estate by that time as is suspected.

    • equality says:

      Notice too there was no new picture of Will and the children taken by Kate for father’s day or Will’s birthday on SM. On Twitter the photo used for Will’s birthday was a press one and the one of Will and children on Father’s day was from 2019.

      • Lemons says:

        I think this is one of the biggest clues since Kate does not miss an opportunity to publish a portrait taken by her.

      • candy says:

        Along those lines, she arrived a few days late to the Scotland trip. Granted, that could be explained by the kids’ schedules. But this was an important diplomatic trip.

    • Demi says:

      Uncle Gary’s interview was very indicative of something is wrong the man didn’t speak for years why now .. the queen isn’t dead yet neither is Charles so why he is desperate to claim Kate as queen?? he sure knows it’s not very dignified to reach for the queen’s role while she’s still alive.. it’s very telling that the Middletons are desperate for Will not to drop Kate..

      • TabithaD says:

        Uncle Gary apparently ploughed a lot of money into the Middletons’ campaign to land William. (You’re not telling me all those hugely expensive school fees and house in Chelsea for Kate and Pippa were paid for by selling bits of plastic tat on the internet). I guess he doesn’t get to see a return on that investment unless Kate actually gets to be Queen (Consort). So if it looks like that might not happen after all … you can see why he might be worried.

      • candy says:

        Yeah, he hadn’t spoken out since way before the marriage, and that was to let everyone know that they were vacationing together circa 2006 I think. Basically, “william didn’t dump Kate right after college.” This was one of their early breakups.

  16. Woke says:

    I didn’t think I had it in me to which the demise of two people I don’t know so bad.
    I really think the press will never turn on them as long as the hate Harry and Meghan articles are making them so much money.
    I also think that by the end of the year we’re going to learn something big about them.

  17. SH says:

    Is part of the problem that William no longer lays his head in Carole’s lap since he became more interested in Rose Bushes? Having children was probably hard for William since he used to get all of Carole’s attention and babying, but now Carole focuses on actual children now that she has grandchildren. Carole successfully got her heir to the throne with George’s birth and now spares so goal achieved even if there is a divorce so she’s likely not as attentive to William’s mood swings, especially after at least one of William’s affairs became public rumor and therefore embarrassing.

    • swirlmamad says:

      It could be that Carole doesn’t have as much use for him now that the heir has been produced and she’s got her bloodline connection to the throne. The sperm donor has done his duty! Maybe that explains why she’s going HAM and constantly embiggening her daughter in the press — at this point, what William thinks be damned.

    • Harper says:

      If Will is in deep with an affair, he is not sharing with CarolE anymore, but instead with either Rose or NotRose sidepieces. He doesn’t need CarolE now. I’m wondering if CarolE even has any access to Will? Maybe she sent Uncle Gary out in the hopes she’d get an angry phone call from William, and at least get him on the phone to try and sweet talk him into it being like old times again.

  18. JT says:

    This unveiling is the start of their official, unofficial living separate lives arrangements. I guess it now extends to royal events and not just housing. I think Kate was ok with it when it was just the both of them doing their own thing, but now William is sidelining her from the public as well. Kate better be careful. If William could turn in his brother who he actually loved, than Keen will be in for a wild ride.

    • equality says:

      Harry has been taking the bad press for William for much of his life even before Kate. If Harry and Will were both guilty of something, only Harry got reported. I would have my doubts that Will really cared about Harry other than as his scapegoat.

    • MonicaQ says:

      I’m probably mean for saying this but I don’t thing William ever ‘loved’ Harry past a superficial level. Like a “That’s my biological brother but not much else” thing. Otherwise, why all the smears now? Why only Harry getting ragged for the party in Vegas when William was dressed offensively as well? Why release his location while he was in the Army and put him and his unit at serious risk?

      I think he loved what Harry could *do* for him: scapegoat, fall guy, what have you. But not Harry, the man, himself. Especially after he found his footing in life.

  19. Sofia says:

    I agree that they won’t divorce. They’ll live separate lives but legally stay married. The Cambridges’ image is built off being a better version of Charles and Diana marriage/family wise. And the “college sweethearts” serve as a foil to the “adulterous” Charles and Camilla.

    • MonicaQ says:

      I’m going to agree as well. The mistresses may come out but they’ll “work through it with love and respect for one another” and “request privacy” (hah!). I’m not saying they’ll NEVER divorce but I honestly don’t see it happening in the next few years or at least while the Queen herself is alive.

      After Betty goes, I think though the odds go up. But still low considering the paper thin image he’s constructed for himself involves “happily married”.

      • swirlmamad says:

        I agree, I don’t think anything is changing as long as the Queen is alive. But I’m becoming more and more convinced by the day that once she goes….so does Kate.

    • HeatherC says:

      If they’re still married when/if William becomes Prince of Wales (it’s not automatic), they’ll be married until one of them dies imo

  20. ABritGuest says:

    I love that Kate hasnt said much about the tears story & isn’t the type to get upset about things like that but someone leaked the incident in the first place & keeps insisting in all articles about it since Oprah that Kate actually cried too!

    Anyway idea that Kate has separate PR, is allowed to overshadow her husband & be called the jewel in the crown etc puts paid to idea that spotlight is only for the monarch& heirs which was used to bash Meghan and idea she has no control & is a helpless pawn in the system. After not being invited to the unveiling the Cambridges are doing a private visit before it so not only are the press placated but Kate no doubt is too. So I do think she has more power then people realise.

    In the UK a big scandal broke on Friday about a minister called Matt Hancock caught on camera with his married colleague. He’s now left his wife for her. Another MP hinted that the minister husband of the Daily Fail’s Sarah Vine was also playing away. So she writes this column about being a political wife that is ostensibly about this Hancock situation but contains some digs about how the long term partners of those in power know their partners fears & insecurities & how that should be remembered. It seemed like a threat to her husband but was very interesting that she mentioned the Duchess of Cambridge in this article about long suffering wives who can humble their partners etc

    I think there’s a lot going on BTS..

    • Sofia says:

      So I checked the article (I loathe giving the DM clicks) but she was actually comparing Kate to Samantha Cameron as someone who stands by her husband and how David Cameron stands by her, has an unfailing respect for her (her words) and makes time for her.

      • Jais says:

        “My former friend Samantha Cameron” – that sh*t was funny. If Sara Vine really is referring to her husband, she is ballsy. Don’t like her but ballsy, d*mn. Add in the Diane Abbott tweet and wow.
        She is comparing Kate to Samantha which in this context means they ground their husbands as opposed to letting them be swept up by courtesans. Lol for days. Just bringing the cambridges up in this context of cheating husbands though is interesting and wasn’t really necessary. So it was a pointed addition.
        *hope this isn’t threadjacking and wasn’t sure if the vine article would be covered since it’s not directly royal news?

      • Nic919 says:

        Vine brought up the Cambridges to poke at the bear. She didn’t have to and we know she’s friendly with Rose Hanbury.

      • SnoodleDumpling says:

        Okay, I hate her, but I have to admit that that is a brilliant way to publicly praise someone whilst turning the screws on them.

    • schlussel says:

      I mean, there are photos of Sarah Vine walking into one of the state dinners (China, I think?) with Rose Hanbury. Eyes emoji.

    • notasugarhere says:

      ‘I love that Kate hasnt said much about the tears story & isn’t the type to get upset about things like that but someone leaked the incident in the first place & keeps insisting in all articles about it since Oprah that Kate actually cried too!’

      Kate and the Midds have been all-in against Meghan from Fall 2016. Leaking constantly, Carole giving interviews attacking Meghan, Uncle Gary attacking the Sussex family in interviews. Kate letting the lies about the crying incident run rampant because they made her look good. Kate is absolutely getting all of this out there, is hugely upset about things, and is one of the main hate agents operating in all of this.

      Kate is no victim, nor is she innocent in any of this.

  21. PamelaJudy says:

    I do enjoy your insight, Kaiser. I’m not sure I would have recognised the separate PR houses if you hadn’t identified it so many months ago.
    Having said that, I’m pretty sure William assumes Kate should just be grateful he chose her and expects her to toe the line while he does whatever he wants. If she can’t/won’t play along, then I feel she’s expendable.
    The Middletons only get favourable press as long as they’re “in favour”. Whatever else we make think about William, he still has clout as FFK.

  22. Maria says:

    I have no idea if they’ll ever divorce. I do think if they were just going to be secretly separated that it’s odd Kate is being publicly sidelined and we are seeing articles about how she’s ready to be Queen and on the flip side William is proceeding as if he is a single dad. I don’t see how these things would be necessary if they agreed to separate privately but keep up appearances to try to be the anti- Charles and Diana. Because they honestly *aren’t* keeping up appearances, which surprises me. He didn’t want her with him during a significant portion of the Scotland trip and she’s not going back with him. No sign of her on Father’s Day. A “private” trip to the statue before the unveiling instead of being at the actual event (although I must point out some reports I read of this only mentioned William taking his children). And he can’t even pretend he likes her in public.
    Who knows.
    In any case, as others have said, if William wants to do it it would be cheaper to do it now before he becomes Duke of Cornwall. But again, who knows.

    • Jais says:

      I’ve no idea if they’ll divorce either but had been leading towards them getting one. If this was 50 or 100 years ago or something, I think they’d just separate and lead separate lives, except for a few public appearances. But with the tabloids and social media, I just don’t think a separation can feasibly be kept a secret forever. Even William probably knows this, which is why he might lean toward a divorce bc he knows the truth will eventaully come out. But maybe I’m wrong and the press will literally cover for them forever?
      Sidenote- even with the cheating rumors, I thought Kate and William prob had an understanding and still liked each other for the most part. Think it was the Mary Berry Christmas special when Kate literally shrugged off William’s touch with a very brief look of revulsion that had me realizing these two people either really don’t like each other or are really going through it. Whew.

      • swirlmamad says:

        If they were older, in their 50s/60s, then I would say that they would probably go along to get along and keep the charade going. These two aren’t even in their 40s. That is a LONG time to go when you can’t stand your spouse, and it is not as simple as it was even in Charles & Diana’s day to keep these things under wraps. One or both of them are on the verge of cracking, that is obvious. I almost forgot about Shrug-gate but that goes to show how that’s only one of many clues and instances that show how far gone these two really are. If you’re even only halfway paying attention it’s all clear as day.

  23. Over it says:

    She was saying it’s not too late to bring them back in but as Long as they remember their place, am I correct? These people can’t make up their minds. And why does this hack Camilla need to bring up Meg to write a story about Kate, jfc Kate Is a Karen . She cried because Harry found the woman he loves and Kate couldn’t handle that. I don’t feel sorry for her or incandescent. They deserve to be miserable and unhappy and bitter for life. God awful people.

  24. S808 says:

    Kate holding on for dear life. I don’t think they’ll get divorced…..yet.

  25. ML says:

    Just an fyi, Anna Pasternak’s Tatler article has been updated and is a lot less snide than the original. There’s less about Carole and the turnips now.

    • Sofia says:

      It was updated last year. Around September I believe. The updates were covered here. Has there been another update?

      • ML says:

        Ah, I didn’t realize that, thanks. Luckily there’s still references to the glorious original!

  26. Amy Bee says:

    If Kate still can’t see why lying about Meghan making her cry is a serious issue then, there’s no way Harry is going to reconcile with either her and William.

  27. nicegirl says:

    Duchess, plant roses.

  28. ChattyCath says:

    Off with their heads! Treason? Middletons must be stupid

  29. MipMip says:

    Warning shot from Carole:

    “ ‘I think the bridesmaids’ dress comments were the least of anyone’s worries.“

    As in, the Middletons know a lot more unsavory stuff about the RF. This seems like a threat from Carole after benching Kate.

    • Maria says:

      I honestly think it’s just them trying to pretend Kate is easygoing or something and hasn’t been obsessed with Meghan since the beginning.

    • MF1 says:

      Good catch. I 100% believe Carole knows where the bodies are buried.

      • Maria says:

        She and her brother have as many skeletons in the closet. They wouldn’t have the benefit of being the Heir to repress them either, as William could do with any of his.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Whatever the Midds think they have on William or the BRF? Nothing in comparison to what the Windsors, their henchmen, the Tory press and tabloids have on the Middletons. If William sets Kate aside, and the Middletons don’t go quietly? Nuclear is the option and the Windsors will win.

      • MipMip says:

        It’s a pretty empty threat, I agree, but I still think threat was the intent. I’m sure the RF has binders of stuff on the Middletons, and I bet they’ve already threatened to use it behind the scenes. We know something is going on on the Mids side, what with the state of W&K’s marriage, the whole family literally closing ranks in Bucklebury and their financial mess.

        Carole may know something is coming one way or the other (I think divorce, which will include throwing Kate under the boss for everything with H&M) but this is her shot back, saying that if the RF tears down the Middletons, the Middletons can and will tear them down right back.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The Midds might try, but they would fail and fail easily. No one likes them, no one is going to be on their side when they attempt to smear the Windsors. Rally round the crown and all that.

    • windyriver says:

      After seeing and participating in what’s been done to Harry and Meghan over the last few years – which in large part has consisted of making up stories out of whole cloth about two people with pretty much zero to hide – if the Middletons really believe it can’t happen to them, they truly are living in a bubble. Whatever Carole may think she has on the Windsors, and however confident she thinks she is about her media connections, the Firm will steamroll over her and her family. And unlike with H&M, they will have real ammunition for their stories, as the Middletons have plenty of their own dirty laundry to be aired in public.

    • “ Warning shot from Carole: “ ‘I think the bridesmaids’ dress comments were the least of anyone’s worries.“”

      I think this was a shot fired at William to remind him just how much House Middleton could reveal about the his and the Firm’s behavior behind the scenes towards Meghan. After all, most of the royal family and those close to them must know a lot of the nasty things that were said and done…they are all just choosing loyalty to the the Firm in keeping their mouths shut. If William tries to jettison Kate, I think House Middleton is capable of throwing some pretty nasty stuff out there…especially as it concerns William’s actions against Meghan and Harry. Anyway, that’s my take on the WARNING SHOT.

  30. Busy Bee says:

    Kate is such a bad example to women… I hate this brand she created as the “devotee wife that lives to alleviate her husbands stress and soothe him” 24h/7. Women are more than stress relief for men and they don’t simply exist to make men’s life better. Everybody should and have to be responsible for their own happiness.

    Don’t get me wrong, of course that in a relationship there are moments when one of the person is going to have to take care of the other but Kate makes it sound like that’s ALL she does to the point of completely forgetting about herself. That’s a bad thing to keep putting out there to young women. It is such an archaic and sexist concept…

    Such a wasted platform…

    • taris says:

      it’s very revealing that supporters of kate often praise her for essentially “knowing her place”. before this year, RRs would constantly rave about she was always careful not to outshine her husband; one reporter even once said “she’s not too clever” and meant it as a compliment.

      her lack of work ethic and embarrassing mumbling are inspiring to noone. and the recent attempts to rebrand kate as the saviour of the monarchy, as some kind of feminist are as shallow and inauthentic as she is.

    • Amy Too says:

      And not a good look for their supposed mental health initiatives. This all plays into the whole “other people MAKE me feel things, therefore other people are responsible for how I feel and how I react to how *they* MADE me feel.” Kate’s just trying to do the positive spin version of it that we see constantly in YA romance novels: the bad/mad/violent/depressed/surly boy NEEDS the female protagonist to make him feel better by loving the bad behavior out of him. By being sweet enough, and understanding enough, and virginal and wifey enough, she can make him feel so much love and adoration for her that he no longer has room to feel bad, sad, naughty, reckless emotions anymore. If it’s not working yet, she needs to try harder. If he has a relapse and becomes engorged with rage enough to lash out violently at those around him, including the female protagonist, it’s probably time to either marry him or have sex with him. But loving, romantic, chaste and virginal sex, not slutty sex like he has with other girls. Because the female protagonist is not like other girls.

      This is all so Kate. And it’s so dysfunctional and goes against everything that mental health charities and initiatives have been trying to teach us for decades now.

      • SnoodleDumpling says:

        Oh god, THAT’S why people like her. She’s a romance novel protagonist in every way, including the so remarkably unremarkable in appearance she may as well literally be a blank cardboard cutout to project your own image upon bit. But, y’know, prettier and skinnier and with nicer hair.

  31. rawiya says:

    Literally, William needs to find himself a Meghan-lite, resign himself to being the Wax to her Max, and the Middletons would be over.

    • Jais says:

      Meghan-lite or a British Meghan-white?

      • MonicaQ says:

        100% Meghan-white. I will go to my grave thinking William made the skin color comments unless Harry has literal tapes/emails proving otherwise. (or he comes out and says it.)

      • notasugarhere says:

        I think comments were made by both William and Kate. William has repeatedly shown his racist behavior, and the obvious ‘Kate PR with non-white children’ has been going on for a few years. I can see William saying it because he’s racist, Kate saying it because she’s racist and frankly dumb.

      • rawiya says:

        (I was going to write Meghan-white, but I thought I’d be good…for once!!) But work-ethic Meghan-lite.

    • Truthiness says:

      I think he would be best served by a lighter version of Amal Clooney. Someone who would challenge his ego, who is serving some humanitarian purpose…if an attractive creature like that exists. He may never be that savvy though.

  32. Lizzie says:

    Well waity is failing miserably since her husband is enraged all the time.

  33. girl_ninja says:

    Alleviate huh? With buttons and keenness. Maybe offering a rose?

  34. Amelia says:

    “The bridesmaids dresses were the least of anyone’s worries”. Shut up Tominey. They weren’t the least of YOUR worries when you decided to make it a “headline breaking” story and twist the situation to suit yours and Kate’s white tears.
    Can the both of you do us all a favour and kindly f*ck off?

    • February-Pisces says:

      Camilla T knows the game is up. She is team middleton and they are on a sinking ship. I don’t think William trusts camilla T, no way, so she will be expendable when the time comes. She has to make kate happen, cos she has no choice at this point.

      • Demi says:

        Just noticed Camilla T seems to be in the business of PR spin for the most desperate Royal members like Edward, Sophie& KATE she’s a mouthpiece for the married in wives searching for positive PR to remain relevant they hire Camilla thinking her coverage will make them seem useful & appealing public figures .. I think Camilla isn’t doing anyone a favor with those puff articles on the contrary she makes them seem even more ridiculous & insincere heck Camilla doesn’t even write well enough she’s the one exploiting them while they still remain irrelevant..

  35. Seraphina says:

    IF all these insiders with the positive PR really is Ma Middle-manager, can Carole be so obtuse that she doesn’t see this will not end favorably for Kate. Kate is an outsider. The aristos don’t really like her and she has managed to isolate herself from any female within the family (most importantly her SIL, who would have been able to have her back) – Wills has already proven she was second or third choice so her footing with him is not stable. Carole is truly over playing her hand. And I am here for it (I know but it’s like an episode of As the Palace Turns).

    • swirlmamad says:

      She may see it, but she’s in desperation mode. This woman didn’t get where she is by giving up so easily. She’s going to fight to the bitter end, even though her odds of coming out the victor are extremely low. You might actually admire her tenacity if she wasn’t such a horrible excuse for a mother and woman who raised her daughter the same way.

      • Jaded says:

        Her tacit approval of letting Uncle Hookers-n-Blow blather away about his hatred of M&H, and how Charles should step aside and let “Keen Kween Peacemaker Revolutionary Lynchpin Saviour of Salty White Isle and the BRF” and her layabout husband become King and QC is really quite telling. I mean the guy is a total buffoon and creepy as f*ck, and yet there he is frothing at the mouth and getting all sorts of press coverage. What an embarrassment…

  36. Dee says:

    Camilla T likes writing fan fiction for the Middletons, doesn’t she?

  37. February-Pisces says:

    There is a divergence forming between Willie and Keens pr. At the moment it is soft and unnoticeable to the untrained eye, but obviously we here on celebitchy and Sussex squad are experts and can see it. Keen knows she can’t p*ss Willie off too much by throwing him under the bus. She knows who butters her bread. But she is trying to overshadow him and take credit for everything, by positioning herself as indispensable. All her PR is about how much he needs her, not the other way round. Its like she’s talking to him, just like when she appealed to go the the statue unveiling.

    This is the beginning of the end of them. It won’t be long before the middletons go one step too far and Willie will act on it.

  38. NCDancer says:

    This is such low stakes poker. I don’t even get these PR campaign efforts anymore. Who exactly is winning in any of this? The Duchess who only longs to help? Or is it the Duke who hates his wife? It’s not like people are so interested in them that there are fans to be gained or loss. But even if they were, to what end? I mean it’s not like they are going to be less privileged. It’s just so much beer and circus.

    • PRESS RELEASE: Diana and Charles: The Splitting 2.0 Arriving Soon in Your Favorite Media Outlet.

      Haven’t they learned anything? The War of the Wales was vicious, ugly, belittling and harmful for everyone involved; especially the children. The Cambridge’s using the same strategy again is going to be just as ugly.

  39. Rapunzel says:

    So yesterday someone said the Cambridges seem to talk to each through the press. I think that’s what’s happening here.

    This is Kate’s way of telling Wills to let her go to the Diana unveiling, to help make it less stressful. Notice it was released soon after it was revealed she wasn’t going. It’s her way of telling Wills, “see, I’m not worried about stunt queening in all my buttons, like you said I was at Grandpa’s funeral. I’m on your side and just trying to help your stress by making sure everyone focuses on me. We can do father’s day photos too!”

    • Babz says:

      That’s exactly what’s happening. Charles and Diana did the same thing. It’s an old playbook, updated to include social media, and it isn’t working any better for the Cambridges than it did for the Waleses. They all overplayed their hands, and we have already seen how it ended with Chuck and Diana before she died.

  40. notasugarhere says:

    The best way for Kate to alieviate William’s stress and sadness? Agree to an immediate divorce.

    • Lizzie Bathory says:

      Since we know Charles & William are unlikely to admit they did anything wrong with their smear campaign and we know the bullying investigation is nonsense and we know BP quietly backed off hiring a diversity tsar, I’m starting to wonder if the “crisis managers” have another role to play here. I wonder if their job is to keep the Cambridge marriage limping along for as long as possible–at least until the Jubilee but ideally until the Queen passes.

      Part of the compromise might be to keep William & Kate “working” separately as much as possible. And maybe even setting Kate up in Berkshire with her family. How long that will work is anyone’s guess. But with Meghan & Harry unleashed, the Brexit mess, COVID and Tory scandals, I’m guessing the Firm knows they need to push this divorce off for as long as they can.

  41. TheOriginalMia says:

    I think divorce is on the horizon within the next year. Definitely before the Queen passes. No one wants Kate as PoW, and alimony will increase once the Duchy passes to William. That cheapskate won’t want to increase Kate’s alimony. As for how it’ll play in the press. Well, there’s plenty of stuff William can release to garner sympathy or apathy towards his divorce. He was young. They’ve outgrown each other. The pandemic. That much closeness just made their differences even more apparent and they decided to split after trying to reignite the flames. Or he goes for broke and reveals that Kate/Carole/Tanna/CamillaT connection that has worked to manipulate him & his family by briefing about & against them.

    As for Kate alleviating his stress and sadness, he has mistresses and his lads for his that. She gave him heirs and that’s all he needs right now from her.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Alimony will not increase once he is Duke of Cornwall, since none of the Windsors own the Duchy of Cornwall personally. Diana had no claim on the Duchy or Charles’s income from it, Kate would have no claim on it either. What Diana got was all of Charles’s personal money, not Duchy money, plus a few million he had to borrow privately from mummy. If William put a lot of inherited money into her parents new home, that could be seen as a post-nup. As Kate has a lousy work ethic, there would be no need to give her a grace and favour home and office staff at Kensington Palace. She’d be shipped to the country (Norfolk or a Crown Estate property at Windsor) and ignored.

      The main issues are titles. Things get messy if they divorce after the Queen dies, with Cambridge/Cornwall. The Prince of Wales title can be held off on being awarded for years, as it was with Charles. Neither William nor Charles wants Kate running around with a POW title, esp. if William has plans to remarry.

    • notasugarhere says:

      The Windsors learned their lessons re. divorce with Diana and Fergie. Nothing W&K ‘have’ belongs to them. The Apartment 1A at KP is taxpayer owned, taxpayer funded. The furnishings are borrowed from the Royal Collection. Anmer Hall continues to be privately owned by the Queen, again with furnishings purchased by Charles not William. In a divorce, Kate has no claim on any of the housing.

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        But Kate will be allowed to keep Diana’s cursed engagement ring. Hope it brings her much joy.

      • TheOriginalMia says:

        Ah. So whatever alimony figure is stated in the pre-nup, that’s it. Yep, it’s the titles. No one wants her carrying that dual title if William has a new wife in mind. And I seriously doubt she’ll be allowed to keep Big Blue, even though, it hers now. That ring is cursed. I’d let her keep it.

  42. Jay says:

    I’ll just point out that once again, Kate is reminding us that she’s been accused of making Meghan cry, and hoping we won’t notice that she doesn’t deny it. In fact, after years of maintaining that Meghan made her cry, now suddenly, it’s a small incident, not something Kate gets “het up” about (because now everyone knows the reverse was true). Nice try, kiddo, but you’re not that slick.

  43. Guildish says:

    If she was such a good wife/partner, top CEO, peacemaker, etc., pray tell, when did she develop these skills? Was it when Meghan arrived on the scene and she explained to her husband how bad it would look if they didn’t support the first black woman to be part of the monarchy? Was it when she told her husband how bad it would look to pull the Flybe stunt? The Scotland Choo-Choo-Train disaster?
    She has no influence over him. All I see is a woman he married to be the mother of his children, stay in the background, know her place and only speak when spoken to. Her only identity is what he tells her it is. Her decision. Her choice. Made when she waited and waited.
    This is not a marriage of equals. Not a partnership. Not even of mutual respect.
    He is a tantrum throwing Adult child with major control issues. He’s spoiled, lazy, stupid, arrogant, selfish and short-sighted. What idiot thinks he can beat his dog every day and that dog will come running up to him when he comes home? If he cared one iota for the survival of the monarchy, his kids inheritance or even his own legacy more than he cares for himself, he would have bent over backwards to prevent Sussexit.
    The more she tries to emulate Meghan, the more their marriage comes apart. She doesn’t understand that it’s a constant reminder to him of what a failure he is. Not just personally but locally and globally. And he knows there’s no coming back from that global humiliation. Not for him. He doesn’t have the chops. It’s eating him up. Killing him on the inside. His tantrums become incandescent. It’s everyone else fault, not his. Why does he have to change, he’s perfect. Born to be a King. Assured to be a King.
    He’ll never change. He’ll spiral into a bitter, inconsequential old man. Ineffective. His only release? Congregate amongst his own kind. At least with them he’s still the top of the heap. Continue his rose gardening.
    What should she do? Take the house near her family. Go quietly. You’ll gain more sympathy by going quietly. Make a life for yourself and your kids apart from the monarchy. Train the kids to be something she’s not. Her husband is not. Financially independent, critical thinkers. Because there will be no monarchy to inherit.

    • Eurydice says:

      Yikes, talk about a trap. If he weren’t so lazy and self-centered he could spend some of his grumpy years in doing good for others, but we’ve seen he’s not interested in that. So yeah, he’ll lead an aimless life, with handlers telling him what to say and where to stand, with valets dressing him like a doll and pinning on the medals, and affairs here and there with whichever woman can still stand to be around him. If I wanted to, I could almost feel slightly sorry for him.

    • Babz says:

      That an excellent summations of the situation. And damning as can be. No one wins here. Your description of William’s future is bleak, and totally self-wounding. Kate will be lost, because she has no identity, no self-will, nothing to fall back on. She may get the children, but make no mistake – she will be spending holidays alone, just like Diana did. She will see her children, especially George, subsumed into the Windsor pod, and will basically end up back living with her parents, even if she has her own home near them. She willingly gave up her entire self to be QC, and if they divorce, she will have nothing. Diana forged a life of philanthropy, but that’s too much work for Kate. I hope she has a good therapist on speed dial. She’s going to need one.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Guildish, the only thing I think might be missing is how wholeheartedly Keen wanted this. She knew exactly what kind of person she was marrying. So, she gets half the blame for the disaster their marriage is. I also blame both of them for putting their children through this with them. Just divorce and make a home for the children that doesn’t include passive aggressive actions and anger. I don’t believe that W is the only one filled with anger. I just think no one talks about K. After all, Ma Middlin’ isn’t going to the press with that.

  44. candy says:

    Something is definitely up. Will they divorce? No way. William does whatever he wants anyway, and Kate does seem like a doting mother. It’s not like she gave up a career to be resentful about. They have multiple properties if they need space from one another. The kids will be in boarding school within a few years. Not judging either, they had a pretty good run. They’ve been together nearly 20 years, not like they haven’t figured out how to work around each other by now.

  45. Merricat says:

    Kate is a liability. She has not proven herself equal to the task.

  46. The Recluse says:

    It’s the Princess Caroline debacle from the 19th century all over again.