Queen Elizabeth was seen driving (!) a car around the Windsor Castle estate on Friday, and the Daily Mirror claimed that she was driving herself over to Frogmore Cottage to visit Prince Harry. The timing of it makes sense – he seemed to arrive at Heathrow mid-morning on Friday, and he was taken directly to Windsor, where he will be in some kind of loosey-goosey quarantine for five days. Technically, I don’t think he could “leave” Frogmore, so it makes sense that the Queen would have to go to him if they wanted to talk face-to-face. You can really tell that the royal reporters don’t know how to spin it either – the idea that the Queen went over to Frogmore Cottage within a few hours of Harry’s arrival doesn’t scream “she’s terribly mad at him.” It actually looks like she wanted to have a nice visit with her favorite grandson.
One spin which is being attempted? That the Queen is very concerned about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s attendance at her Platinum Jubilee celebrations next year. We heard, weeks ago, that the Queen absolutely wanted Harry, Meghan and their children to be invited, and I accurately predicted that this would be the next big thing that the Royal Rota and the courtiers would try to hold over M&H’s heads. “The Sussexes attendance at the Jubilee is under threat because of blahtey blah.” The courtiers can’t help themselves – they’re already throwing out scenarios where Harry & Meghan are invited but then not allowed “on the balcony.” Jesus these people.
The Queen has extended an olive branch to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex by inviting them to join the Royal Family in London next summer for the Platinum Jubilee celebrations. The Mail on Sunday understands that Harry and Meghan plan to attend Trooping the Colour, the Queen’s official birthday parade, which will form part of the jubilee festivities over four days next June.
But questions remain whether the couple will appear on the Palace balcony beside the Queen and other senior Royals for the traditional RAF flypast. Previous jubilee celebrations have involved two balcony appearances, but it is understood that Royal aides may seek to limit numbers taking part to working Royals only – which would mean excluding Harry and Meghan.
A source with knowledge of the jubilee plans said: ‘The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have been invited and I’m sure the Queen is very much looking forward to seeing them there. The balcony moment will be decided much nearer the time but there’s a limit to how many family members should be on it, and I would have thought that working Royals who contribute to the family would be higher on the list than the Sussexes.’
For what it’s worth, Omid Scobie said about a week and a half ago that Meghan does have plans to attend – tentative plans, surely – next year’s Jubilee, and that Harry and Meghan really are talking about bringing the kids. All of this is truly eleven months away. Surely we don’t need any of these stories now, right? Anyway, it would be both stupid and hilarious if the entire Sussex family does come for the Jubilee celebrations and the courtiers cut them out of all of the events. Everything over there is such a clownshow, I actually suspect that’s what will happen. Meghan and Harry should be aware of that too, that as soon as they do arrive, these a–holes will be doing the most to publicly “snub” them repeatedly.
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To be fair, harry and meghan are literally the only thing that can revive the monarchy, and Im not exaggerating. The older folks who love the Monarchy, are dying out. Young folks dont care and are quite interested in equality, which the Monarchy has never represented, but they DO like M&H.
William and Kate appeal to the 45+ crowd, and Charles and Camilla appeal to no one. If they (the courtiers and powers that be) are smart, they will start a process to rehabilitate the UK image of Harry and Meghan. Ive already seen diehards complaining that the Queen is wrong for extending the invite, and they are now calling for the end of the Monarchy if her extended invite is true.
If they were smart.. they wouldn’t be in this position to begin with or would have reversed course when this backstabbing campaign backfired. They double down as H&M became and remain global superstars.
Power and privilege lead to blindness. Think about this: Andrew, because he has always dwelled in the privilege bubble, actually thought the drivel in his BBC interview (or whatever network it was on) would save him. So blind and arrogant that he couldnt see it. Ancient Rome had the same problem. They didnt see the end of their privilege bubble coming until the germanic tribes burst it.
the tabloids really want us to think that harry and meghan are practically begging to be there (and to be “forgiven”), but i don’t think so. at all.
i mean, if the queen asked, they’d be there, sure; but they’re just about done with that island.
as for the article:
•really wish omid hadn’t revealed meg’s plans, tentative or not; it makes her sound like she’s just dying to be there, which is like, why?
•since when are balcony appearances limited to working royals? please
•they’re about to get real tiresome about this dumb jubilee
•every time RRs refer to omid as “the sussexes’preferred reporter” or as “meg’s pal” i detect a twinge of jealousy
Im legit howling at the idea of the derangers calling for an end of the monarchy simply because a biracial woman joined the family and the queen seems to like her. What a way to let their racism fly!
Racism is a rabid, awful thing; i believe, a spiritual and mental illness. If you look at the crimes, the awful crimes commited against ppl of color, including making them hate themselves, you would see how truly ghastly it is. Caused a bunch of white ppl to kill each other over it in the civil war.
Racists at the end of their life may forget the names of their children and even their own names but they don’t forget to be racist. It’s epigenetic.
It doesn’t surprise me after living in the US since Obama became President. Pretty much half the country is down for the longest lived modern democracy to go down into a flaming tirefire of authoritarian dictatorship if it means black people won’t be elected into the highest positions of power in our government ever again.
I’m in the “45+” crowd and I loathe the Lamebridges. #TeamHarryAndMeghan forever
Same!
Ditto!
45+ dittos here!
Me too, and I felt that way before I even found this site.
I hear that! No PWT + Keen for me at all.
Exactly
Chaine, Feeshalori, LMR, Ann Lexistential, Brincalhona, and I’m a boomer who also gets lumped as one group. Please know that no one means it’s the entire group. In my opinion, it’s not even the majority of the 45+ to include boomers, I just think the minority numbers of the group are vocal. I suspect there are any number of people who could care less either way, too.
Me too!! H&M 4-EVA!
Same here!
These courtiers and royal reporters are so obsessed with H&M that they’ve probably got life-sized H&M dolls that they pass around when they need that fix. I can picture them clutching the dolls late at night, when they’ve got no details about the power couple and they whisper, “We need you but we hate you and don’t want you here but we need you because we can’t live without you! Don’t leave us with Baldemort The Engorged and Cannot the Keen!” It’s a vicious and gross cycle.
What would be even funnier is if Meghan and Harry attend solely as a family thing to support Harry’s meemaw and THEY make sure to stay out of sight – no photo ops for BM and no good stories to tell for the RR Rats. They’re there like superheroes with a secret identity.
The rota is already lasering in on the next event that may give them access to the Sussexes. I will be so glad when Harry and Meghan can just cut that family off entirely.
They are coming off SO desperate. They are literally salivating at an event almost a year from now because Meghan might–only might–come. They’re acting like a bunch stage 5 clingers. I would love it if H&M didn’t go.
I agree the rr continually hope the queen will humiliate Harry. I don’t think it will happen at jubilee but the next time Edward is wearing an unearned military uniform/metals and Harry is wearing a suit with his metals. I don’t think much of the public will support that sight.
With the exception of William, none of the queen’s grandchildren are working royals. Are they really going to exclude them from the balcony?
the desperation to get/make any “news” out of the sussexes (and esp meghan) is so obvious … and sad
I thought PC was determined to have just the senior working royals on the balcony? Isn’t that what I read somewhere? I can see H&M being there because of affection for TQ and because Harry respects her as Queen. Anyway, if I was H&M I would sit the balcony out–and would never put my children in that position. I think this is wishful thinking by the rota. Obviously I don’t have any idea as to their thought processes, but I just can’t see H&M letting their kids be in a position to be torn apart by the BM. That’s what would happen as we know.
I’m about to say something nice about Kate: she wears hats really well.
These pics of Meghan were taken during the “dimming” phase and I hate how she literally looks like she’s diminished her glow to try to fit in-compare it with the “Bad Bish” photos or anything since they left and she radiates light.
Also, something something courtiers are stupid and there’s nothing they can do to diminish or really punish them anymore. Sure seems like Granny wanted to see her grandson, and didn’t want anyone else involved.
You’re right, Kate does wear hats well. That’s one of the only compliments I can give her. But I always cringe when I see these photos because I remember vividly how hulking Kate’s presence was that day. She planted herself front and center on the balcony with her hat making her higher than everyone, almost trying to have a mini-Evita moment. I read it as a very clear “I’m the future queen, Meghan. You stand back there. I stand up here” moment.
I swear she looks like she’s standing on a box as well. She’s towering over Harry behind her too which she wouldn’t do normally. I bet they have boxes there for the children to stand on so they can see over the edge of the balcony and FFQ clambered up on one to make absolutely sure she dominated the photos.
I recall many people trying to say that Kate was supposed to take centre stage at that event, despite the fact that Camilla outranks her and frankly Harry outranked them all as the only senior blood royal on the balcony at the time.
You can tell Harry and Meghan didn’t really care about being the centre of attention like Kate did that day. Even Camilla wasn’t bothering. FFQC was staking her claim.
ITA with these photos- I’ve always felt Kate purposely dressed to be the tallest woman on the balcony, and was out to dwarf Meghan. FFQC flexing, and if rumors are true about separation arrangements, let’s see if she can repeat this crap while Charles is King.
Gran quickly driving over to see her grandson doesn’t exactly match with the idea that she was so honked off over the new baby having her family nickname. The only thing she had of her own!
Maybe she drove over there to personally take her nickname back.
Wow, thanks for that. I was trying to pinpoint what it was about the attached photos that made me feel so sad, and now That I know when they were taken, it makes perfect sense.
I forgot to mention the buttons! Meghan in nude colors, buttons, and a terrible hat… it just breaks my heart. So glad she’s out and happy now.
Come to think of it, you’re right. I missed that. My only thought was about why Meghan wore her hair down, while wearing a hat. That’s one of the few times she’s done it, and I thought it was odd, because she always dresses superbly for these occasions. But with Herself planted front and center on the balcony – and probably visible from space – even then I didn’t realize that Meghan was trying to stay in the shadows, so to speak. She had worn that hat with a different dress at the garden party for Charles a couple of days after the wedding, and her hair was up, and she looked regal as all hell. My God, what that poor woman went through…
She definitely is missing all her shine and her natural swag in these pics. She looks really sad. Poor Meg.
The rota have lost out on front row tickets to the statue unveiling (although I’m sure they’ll be briefed and leaked to plenty) so have now moved onto the next “when we could see Harry and/or Meghan in the UK” event. After this, they’ll move onto Trooping (or HM’s funeral, depending on which comes first I suppose)
This is why I think H&M really need to cut them off completely and stop entertaining the possibility of attending events like this. Because as long as they do, there is going to be this endless cycle of hysteria leading up to the event, hysteria and fawning while they’re there, and then hysteria afterwards to crap all over them about their body language and how they snubbed so and so. Rinse and repeat. It will never end. The only thing I’m speculating is that they’re doing it for the sake of the Queen, and that when she is gone, all bets are off and peace out RF.
I definitely think that if they go, it’ll be for the queen and her only. It’s the institution they’ve got issues with but the queen was lovely to Meghan according to Meghan herself. They named their daughter of her. They may be upset/disappointed with Queen Elizabeth II but they hold Granny Lilibet in high regard.
Hopefully, as we come out of pandemic restrictions over the next year, H&M will really get into their stride and they will be all over the press with their work. Much more difficult to keep putting them down when the international press is reporting all the stuff they are doing. Kate and Wills are going to look pretty crap by comparison.
I agree about the endless cycle, but unfortunately I don’t think them cutting off the family completely would do anything to rein in the rota. If anything I think it might make it worse. As disgusting as it is, I think what we’re seeing is actually “restraint” on the rota’s part right now, if you can fathom that, because there is still some connection to the Queen and RF and so the rota can’t completely tear them to shreds because at a certain point it makes the RF look bad. But if the ties were permanently severed? I think that would be all out war.
@The Hench out of all of them, Harry and Meghan are the only ROYALS I’ve seen fully adhere to all the COVID restrictions and rules. They haven’t broken a single rule so far. The rest of the clowns have been blatantly breaking nearly every other rule so far just to do us all a disservice of putting themselves and their ugly faces out there 😒
Did you see the telegraph report that kate and the kids (and william) will see the statue before the official unveiling? I’ll bet you 100 bucks that there will be a “spontaneous” and candid pap pic of kate and the kids smiling and all dolled up as they exit the sunken garden.
I did. I didn’t want to mention it in case Kaiser is going to do a story about it and didn’t want to end up threadjacking
Oh, there will be pictures! This is his way of circumventing Harry about no rota on the day. He plans to outshine Harry (in his dreams), while fulfilling the pact with the rota. You can bet they raised holy hell about being banned, and this is his reward to them. Basically, this is the unveiling before the unveiling, and if I were Harry and the Spencers, I’d be livid. I’m sure Keen got her two cents in, demanding some sort of public moment with the statue, so that, and his jealousy, promoted this little petty maneuver. If I was Harry, I’d say to hell with all of you, I’m done, I’ll see it later with my family – in private – and be on the first plane home. William has managed to spoil what was supposed to be a lovely tribute to their mum from the brothers and the Spencers, but PWT just couldn’t resist shenanigans.
I am so over these royal assholes and their clownf——-ery and it hasn’t even begun yet. These people need to get a F——ing life already
‘I would have thought that working Royals who contribute to the family would be higher on the list than the Sussexes’.
And I would hope that the Sussexes would be higher up the reserve list than Andrew.
yeah because people are lining the streets to see the Kents and Gloucesters lol.
Snort! 😀
This is dumb because all they have are the Maga7. C&C, W&K, Sofiesta and Who? It’s not like there are a ton of senior members and nobody cares if the others show up anyway. I hope they didn’t forget about their little sad commonwealth special that nobody watched featuring the firm’s “stars.” Only 800,000 views and it wasn’t even discussed by the rota.
The Sussexes should stand with the people in the crowds — that would pull eyes away from the ridiculous balcony of superior a-holes.
Now THAT would be a mega flex! And it would totally work!
I would love to see!
I like them but it would be stupid for the Sussexes to attend these events. They have to stop letting themselves be humiliated by those courtiers in the name of keeping a good relationship with the queen.
Be fine with her in private but those demonstrations of reverence to her in public should stop imo.
I agree. Nothing wrong continuing to talk to her in private but why must they join these royal public events when they’re being attacked? I would only join private family events if I came back. And even then, only few are considered family. Anyway I don’t know what’s going on and I won’t call them that word. I’ll just pray for their safety always.
The harder they try to seem fine in public with the queen the harder the courtiers try to paint them as disrespectful to the queen that’s why they pulled that shit with the BBC.
Everyone who defends them and with sense know that they’re not being disrespectful they should know that and stop these public displays of reverence.
Seeing how Harry is dealing with the unveiling of the statue, I think they will be fine. They’ll probably do some private events where Harry can better control who has access to him and Meghan. That way they can support the queen for the jubilee but not have to sell themselves to the rota.
@woke @alexandria
i agree. i know it’s family and family is complicated but i wish h&m would cut themselves away from these people for good. they are going to continue to be used and if granny isn’t gonna protect them (which she hasn’t been), i just don’t see how it’s worth it.
i admire h&m for their graciousness, but at this point that family has thrown too much shit their way.
Someone on Twitter said that the rota will always keep badgering Harry to come back for events – HM’s Jubilee, HM’s funeral, a statue dedication for Philip or the queen, Chuck’s coronation – and on and on and on. Before he even knows it’s happening, he’s become a part-time royal, and they’ll never let up. I think he’s too savvy for that gambit, but I can sure see them trying it.
Does this sound to you all like courtiers are pushing for a “reconciliation” behind the scenes? Because it doesn’t to me.
The only one that’ll be doing any ‘pushing’, will be William pushing Meghan.🤐
OK seriously, no way will Walmart sanction Meghan being on the balcony for body-language experts to go crazy over, after all the disgusting thing’s he’s said about her.😐😐
Nope it does not sound that way at all.
doesn’t sound like meghan was welcome after all
How about not excluding anybody , first up queen, her kids and their spouses , next up queen and her grand kids and their spouses. Its really getting old punishing Harry for stepping back. It only shows the firm up for being mean sprited. Harry Should be aplauded for stepping out and trying to make it on his own. i dont understand the need to infantalise him and keep him tethered, to a 1000year old insitution.
If I was in her shoes, I wouldn’t attend. I would be sat in the my lovely home with my kids. She better get a food and drink taster, the way they are gunning for her.
Amen. I would spend the day putting fresh flowers in my 74 bathrooms
And they’d all be fabulous!
My gut tells me the queen is playing them and when she makes a request of them, they can’t refuse. Phillip’s funeral is something that Harry had to attend and I completely saw no way to avoid that situation, especially after making such a thing of how much he loves his grandparents. This statue situation could have been avoided, but I can imagine granny putting the sweet granny face on and asking Harry to attend. No, Diana wasn’t a part of the firm anymore and this is not exactly royal business, except it is and would reflect poorly on William and therefore the firm if it didn’t come off well. She’s all about the business of the firm and I wouldn’t put it past her to use Harry’s affection for her to get her way. If I am correct, he’s going to learn to take a page from her book and separate personal from the firm.
BnlurNforever, I think Harry is already separating the personal from the firm. It’s why he made it clear that if the rota was present he wouldn’t come. This is not a royal family firm event. This is Diana, who was divorced from their father. Harry and W will be the only royal family members there. I rather think that TQ is well aware of that. She might ask them to be present at the jubilee, but would she insist that they be on the balcony? I don’t know that PC or PW would be happy about that.
Queenie went to get her new burner phone from Harry because the courtiers rousted her last one after the Lilibet debacle. She probably Zoomed with Meghan and the kids too.
Ha ha! This is a funny mental picture. 🙂
What’s happening with the Met (Metropolitan Police) and Mumsy’s favourite Boy, Andrew? Because as ever, when the paedo is under threat, we get a rush of Sussex Squirrel stories – each more vicious than the preceding one.
If H&M aren’t going to be ‘allowed’ on the balcony by these tightarse nightmares, why would they bother going? Seems a waste of a trip. And ultimately self-defeating, because the Cambridge divorce will be in full swing by then; and I bet that it is going to be even uglier than the War of the Wales. The Royal Family will need M&H to distract from the Exorcist-style antics of PWT and Wiglets.
So, for the balcony moments, my guess is what will happen is that there will be two like the article says, and one will be just senior working royals (Queen, Charles and Camilla, Anne, Wessexes, Cambs) and the other appearance will be everyone. The royal family desperately needs that shot of the whole family to remind people they’re not just an institution, they’re a family too.
Honestly, what I can see happening is the Sussexes traveling to Europe, staying for two or three weeks in the Hague for the pre-work and then the actual Invictus Games (renting a pretty house or a large hotel suite), and then going to the UK and staying there through the trooping and jubilee, seeing their patronages, etc. So a month or 6 weeks in Europe and then back to California. Bring the kids, set them up in the house in the Hague while they’re there and then somewhere in London (Frogmore if possible, but we’ll see.) I do not think we will see the children.
that just makes more sense to me than flying to the IG, back to California, back to the UK.
That’s all of course if they plan on attending any of the June events in the UK, and I think its way too soon to tell.
It’s funny because if the senior royals are on one balcony and H&M are on the other, the press is just going to zoom in on the balcony with the Sussexes. That’s who they all want to see anyway. The BM is hyping up the jubilee a whole ass year in advance just for Harry and Meghan. The Maga7 will just be ignored like they always are. It’s so dumb.
No I meant that there may be two separate balcony appearances. One just the Maga 7 (lol) and one with the whole family.
But even so – the latter will be the only one that gets attention bc of H&M.
Becks1- could they conceivably fit everyone on the balcony at once or there’s literally too many people? Is that why you’re thinking two balcony moments? Not gonna lie. Kinda like the idea of them all being packed in like sardines on a C-train during rush hour.
I mean they’ve shoved them all up there before, lol.
I’m just going off this line in the story:
“Previous jubilee celebrations have involved two balcony appearances,”
as my basis for thinking IF there are two, one may be the whole family and one may be just the working royals.
Yeah that makes sense. Am thinking they could shade HM more if they are on one balcony though. They would get pushed to the back and everyone would be trying to see them so technically eyes would be on the working royals front row, even if it was just to see a glimpse of the sussexes in the back. Petty but on brand in that they would prob love literal photos of HM standing in the back. Eek I’m getting very back of the bus vibes as I think about it.
“ Kinda like the idea of them all being packed in like sardines on a C-train during rush hour.” 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Thanks for the laugh, JAIS. I loved the visual image. I can see an endless year of “ balcony position shaming” stories around the Sussexes from KP and the 🐀Rota and all I feel about it is ……what a 😴 fest.
As we all witnessed, on their last joint visit to England the Sussexes did not court the press or kowtow in any way and yet they blew it out of the water with their charisma.
Regardless of the endless friends of William ‘leaks’ and countless BS articles, the Sussexes will — as always — quietly and privately decide for themselves what they will do and how they will do it. They’ve proven this is how they roll, over and over in the last year or so.
It will be interesting to see if Dr. Jill and/or one or both of the Obamas attends the Invictus games next year, and what the RF/BM reaction is. Except possibly for the games in Australia, I believe some combination of the Bidens and Obamas have had a part in each of the games. Dr. Jill attended the first games, in 2014 in London; she and Michelle Obama (then First Lady) did a kick off event for the games in Orlando; and both Joe and Barack (no longer in office, sigh) attended the 2017 games in Toronto (where Meghan and Harry made their first public appearance together).
If that happens, I bet Chuck and Willy will lobby to snag Invictus Games invites in order to elevate themselves onto the world stage.
I hope you are right Becks, the lamebridge’s will be filled with rage, again!, when the pic’s of them in their glory are overshadowed, again!, by the Sussex’s. I cannot wait to see what Meghan wears. after her last visit I know it will be spectacular.
If the rf ever want to get past racism claims they need to have Meghan on the balcony. I’m not sure Meghan is willing to give them that optic.
She shouldn’t be willing to give them that optic. Not without a sincere apology first. Otherwise it will like they’ll just sweep credible racism allegations under the rug and there will be no change. I hope meghans lawyers are ready to humiliate KP over those stupid bullying claims.
I truly wish the Sussexes would attend as support but stay away from the balcony. They have been aces at keeping the babies private and not-photographed-for-Brit-media to consume and malign like the glutton that it is. Let the media stew at what they wrought. No pics for racists/classists to deride, because you JUST KNOW they will go there.
Harry and Meghan must be gluttons for punishment to want to go back in that snake pit but oh well. I guess they feel this is the queen’s last hurrah so they’ll suck it up for her.
For Meghan, it might depend on what the bullying ‘investigation’ – conveniently delayed – says.
I mean this is an active concentrated attempt to destroy her reputation.
‘She gave them PTSD’?? Seriously? Gimme a break.🙄
As someone who has been in therapy for five years with c-PTSD I find this truly effing offensive.
I think Meghan is only entertaining the idea out of respect to the Queen in the last years of her life. This will probably be the one and only chance Lilibet will get to meet Lilibet and see Archie before she dies.
I was just thinking that…it would be sad to not have that picture of the Queen with the Sussex children. She is getting up there in age, and I personally would want to have any memory or photograph possible when she’s gone.
That’s the only reason I believe the Sussexes would appear on the balcony and it’s not a bad one. I would completely understand.
I agree. If they go, and the queen specifically asked them to bring the children so she could see them, I believe they would. Harry is consistent in separating “Granny” and “ The Queen.” They would bring them if that’s what she wanted. Now, whether they would have them on the balcony is a whole other issue. It’s been usual for all the children, even the babies if they aren’t newborns, to be on the balcony at big events. That being said, Harry and Meghan would know exactly what it would mean for their babies to be there, and what the media would be looking for. That could be a hard no for them, and I certainly wouldn’t blame them.
Didn’t the Cambridges wait awhile with their kids before letting them on the balcony? I think George was like 4 before he got on there and Charlotte probably 3 if she came to the same one as George. I don’t think Louis went when he was very little, like under the age of 2. So maybe the Sussexes can use the excuse that their kids aren’t old enough yet. Lili will be 1, Archie will just be 3. But I doubt they’d want to just have Archie up there even if he is “old enough” now. I think if they do any balconies, it will just be Harry and Meghan. But if the balconies are covered by the rota, specifically, then that’s another reason to get out of them. Just like Harry wouldn’t do the Diana statue with the rota because he doesn’t work with them anymore, even though William and probably everyone else there does.
Charlotte and Louis were brought out the year after they were born. Louis was there in 2019 when Harry and Meghan were there. Kate wanted all the attention babies would bring.
They really are going for that #JUBLIEESOWHITE look.
Yeah, I don’t think Harry and Meghan have made a decision either way. The Platinum Jubilee is still a long way off. As for the balcony, the last Jubilee had just Charles’ family on the balcony which means that working royals were excluded on that occasion.
they’ll be there. personally i don’t think they (esp meghan and the babies) should ever go anywhere near those vipers again after everything they’ve been through, but i sometimes worry that harry and meghan can be a bit too gracious.
so unless the nasty smears keep coming, and depending on what happens with the “investigation”, i think they’ll show up for the queen.
Especially since that investigation reporting has been pushed back to 2022. It could easily be done this year, but I think the courtiers had a hand in the change. Right before the Jubilee, drop the report, and it’s open season on Meghan, regardless of the outcome. They see it as one more chance to attack and humiliate her.
I can understand that sentiment. At the same time, there’s no reason why Meghan, Archie and Lili should be erased from the family tree. Who knows what will happen under Charles and William, but right now the monarchy still means something and The Queen is still The Queen. She has offered an invitation and I would want to rub it into the royal noses that Archie and Lili will meet their great grandmother.
Meghan and Harry will get more attention regardless of where they’re put. At least if they’re on the balcony it will encourage people to actually pay attention to the balcony.
If I were Meghan or Harry (or Kate for that matter), I wouldn’t get on a balcony with William for fear of being pushed off.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well, “Incandescent with rage” is capable of anything!!
Everytime I hear of William being “incandescent with rage” I’m always reminded of cartoon characters when they get angry with steam billowing out their ears, scarlet red faces, clenched fists and jumping up and down before bursting out 😭😂😂
If they go, they go to make the point that yt supremacists and bullies are weak. They’ll go and outshines that drab fugly group of inbreds, raise money for charities, and go into Europe and have huge meetings with real power players. They’ll flex their muscles and dare baldy and keen to do something. Theyll do an exclusive with Italian vogue and then make keen really cry when she sees how much better meg looks. It’ll be petty af.
I like this scenario, and I would be here for it all day!
I wonder if H&M have said they will consider coming and supporting the Queen at some private events but will NOT do the balcony thing. So now the BM has to amp up that they aren’t allowed to. Wasn’t the balcony thing at the last jubilee only the first 3 in line? That would now mean Charles, Will and George.
Why all the comments about an event a year from now? Seems to me like people are putting the Sussexes down and they haven’t even gone.
Also, respect for the Queen and not throwing Gma under the bus, helps them in the long game. Doesn’t mean I think they should go to the Jubilee in any public capacity. But it is a while a way, many things need to play out, and it does no good to declare now that they might not go.
Plus this endless cycle-the Brit media will never stop and never be fair. The make them money and distract from other events-Andrew, Boris, Hancock. We need to accept that.
Hmm doubt the Sussexes have said if they are coming for the jubilee- Harry never even confirmed plan for Diana statue until last week so think Omid is speculating based on fact Meghan said she would have been at Philip’s funeral if possible& idea they remain in close contact with Elizabeth.
In their shoes, I wouldn’t be at any public family events without name cleared over bullying claims, public apologies & guarantee of no more briefings to the press about my business. Without these I would just travel to the Hague for Invictus & do quick stop before the jubilee celebrations to see Elizabeth& other family, friends or charities etc in the U.K. privately. Also if things remain as they are today, Lili (the baby whose name the firm managed to create controversy over) will have her 1st birthday around that time. Would they want to celebrate that with Doria & other friends who have had their backs?
The firm will want next year to be all about the jubilee so in theory the Sussexes should have the upper hand if the firm don’t want continuing narrative around the Oprah interview to be a distraction so they should be trying to resolve the bullying review & other issues now. As next year there will be a lot of pressure on them to put ‘issues’ aside for the elderly widowed Queen celebrating a historic reign. hope they can find a position that works best for them.
Go ahead, snub the Sussexes from the balcony, and see how the US and international media treat the Windsors.
And they’re just narrow minded enough to do it. Unless their PR game improves, I think that’s exactly what would happen, because they can’t seem to grasp the concept that they are participating in their own demise with every story or quote leaked to the British media.
When outsiders are aiming to destroy your marriage, you and your spouse have to stay away from such a toxic and hostile environment.
No good can come from engaging them. Cut them off completely Meghan and Harry!
They already showed you repeatedly who they are. You cannot shame them, you cannot convince them you are not a threat. They lack the capacity to change.
Yes, yes and yes. I hope this is the thing Harry works on over the coming months because until he gets there, I suspect Meghan will support anything he decides because she loves him.
It makes zero sense to me that they would parade the kids out in public during the jubilee. Not only would it completely defeat their efforts to protect the kids’ privacy (waving on a balcony in front of tens of thousands of people is the complete opposite – why choose not to release pics of their faces if they’re just going to do that?), but it would also be in service of people who have been awful to them. A photo op like that wouldn’t just be good for the rota but the RF too. I COULD possibly see the kids being seen during the Invictus Games, but that’s a bit different in my opinion.
Yes, give the attention to Invictus not the royals.
I don’t think we will see the Sussex children during the Jubilee events, not even on the balcony. I think they’ll be there in London, bc I don’t see H&M leaving the kids for any sort of extended period at their ages, but I don’t think they will allow them to be exposed to the british media or to be used as props. Nope.
yeah the rota should not, under any circumstances, profit from pictures of those kids.
I honestly feel so bad for Harry and Meghan. If they don’t go to this event, the media will attack them. If they do go to this event, (some of) their supporters will attack them (and the courtiers will almost certainly try to make things difficult for them also). They are constantly being asked to fulfil competing obligations and it’s a no-win situation.
Believe me , the Sussexes will be on the balcony if they even come to that circus. The RR , the haters, the Karen’s are dying to see a pic of the kids on the balcony. The world is going to wait to see the Sussexes on this dam balcony. The press will make so much money with a shot of the Californian Royals. They will not dare, unless they forbid the rest of non royals on the balcony, there is no way. The York sisters are not Senior Royals, Zara and husband, Peter… If the Sussexes are not allowed, then it should just be the Maga 7 on full display. Well good luck with that, this shot is not going to make them any profit!
Exactly!
It’s up to them, but I’d be petty and make a big charity announcement that weekend that eclipses the old stuffy balcony appearance crapola.
There’s no way that the UK Press would allow this to happen. The families usually bring out the kids, and no Sussexes on the balcony means no photos of Archie and Lily.
rawiya, H&M and not going to have their children on the balcony to feed to the piranhas.
@rawiya said:
“There’s no way that the UK Press would allow this to happen. The families usually bring out the kids, and no Sussexes on the balcony means no photos of Archie and Lily.”
There’s a difference between how balcony appearances are handled for the Queen’s Jubilee vs Trooping the Colour (official birthday celebration for the monarch). TTC happens every year (scaled back the last two years due to the pandemic). Jubilee festivities happen every ten years AFAIK.
Seems as if some commenters are equating TTC balcony appearances with Jubilee balcony appearances. For the 2012 Jubilee, Charles decided to limit balcony participants to the Queen and his own family. Andrew pitched a fit, of course, but the Yorks were excluded that year.
At TTC, a whole slew of Windsors fill the balcony, flowing out of the side doors, not just the center door. Cousins and their children and grandchildren tend to show up. Zara and her family, and the adult Gloucester children haven’t appeared in recent years. I don’t recall seeing the Chattos or Linleys too often recently either at TTC. But the Chattos and Linleys (Margaret’s offspring) generally are at Sandringham for Christmas.
What happens re the Sussexes and the Jubilee balcony appearances, I don’t know. We have to wait and see. It’s a whole year away. A lot can and does happen in a year’s time, as we’ve certainly witnessed!
If Harry and Meghan attend and Queen is still alive and making the balcony then I think H&M will be on the balcony.
They may be shunted to the side because god knows they make the Cambridges’ look ancient but I just think Charles wouldn’t be stupid enough to leave HM’s favorite out so blatantly. And the courtiers just need to get over the fact they’re not the family whatever power they wield.
How dumb is the royal family and their courtiers that they would even consider banishing the only biracial members of their family from a balcony that is typically overflowing with elderly cousins, distant (white) relatives etc. They might as well just ask them to sit at the back or put them on a separate balcony labelled “coloured”, the racism is that blatant.
Imagine it. Keen up front, waving, wearing a hat the size of a Volkswagon, with everyone else behind her.
That’s funny = thanks!
It is a little astounding that even though Camilla regularly wears hats that are objectively larger than Kate’s hats, Kate’s hats still manage to dominate and APPEAR to be the largest.
H&M can come a month earlier and celebrate it with the old lilibet.
They introduce lilibet junior and spend time with the old lilibet.
Then they go home because Harry
and his family are not working royals. They doesnt have to participate in any royals activities.
The clue is in royal announcement for the diana unveiling statue. No royal rotas invited to the event because it is not a royal event. Get a clue you racist idiots.
I like the idea that someone else had – go, and make Invictus Games the centerpiece of their trip. Attend the games in April, then go on to England, visit their charities, see friends and (some) family, and the minute the Jubilee is over, fly home. Let the Games be the focus of their press releases, and the Jubilee visit be secondary. It wouldn’t make sense to fly home after the Games, and then turn right around and fly back to the UK a little over a month later, but they can stay low-key until the public Jubilee events.
The media just takes it as a given that the queen will be alive next June and that this jubilee is a “go”. I wonder about that.
I hate to be in bad taste, but a jubilee cancellation will take a lot of pressure off the Sussexes. Will there be Trooping the Color ceremonies for Charles when the time comes, or is that just a QE thing?
Trooping the Colour happens for every monarch since 1748. It’s not just for HM.
The Sussexes are the focus of the press even a year away.
Oh please.
Andrew would like to be front and center on that balcony, so rest assured the Sussex crew will make it to the balcony.
Classic misdirection.
Lol, William, Kate and Andrew all elbowing each other to be at the front of the balcony 😂😭
The RF has always had a problem with Meghan and balconies. I think one of the turning points for K&W’s irrational hatred of their sister in law was the massive and joyous crowd that came out to see Harry & Meghan on the balcony during their tour, was it Fiji?
Fiji was the beginning. They were already crushing it on the tour, but that balcony appearance in Fiji was the turning point. KP and Clarence House saw the reaction, knew what they were up against, and the attack machine went into high gear and never stopped.
Thank G-d they left. That’s all I have to say.
“Queen Elizabeth was seen driving (!) a car around the Windsor Castle estate on Friday.”
“Fast, Furious, and Royal,” then? 🙂
If Helen Mirren can do it, why not the queen?😆
“But questions remain whether the couple will appear on the Palace balcony beside the Queen and other senior Royals for the traditional RAF flypast. Previous jubilee celebrations have involved two balcony appearances, but it is understood that Royal aides may seek to limit numbers taking part to working Royals only – which would mean excluding Harry and Meghan.”
*snort*
Don’t get yourselves in a twist, “Royal aides”. In the past, we have been treated to many, many adorable children picking their noses, on your anointed holy land, and we loved it. I feel like it’s all of you who need professional help.