There are several pieces of British-tabloid gossip which I find completely believable. One, that the war between the Cambridges and the Sussexes was mostly about the brothers falling out. Two, that Kate never liked Meghan from the start, but that didn’t stop Kate from single-white-femaling Meghan to a really creepy level. Three, Kate and William are genuinely happier now that Harry and Meghan are gone. They don’t have to “compete” on a daily basis and they’ve gone back to being lazy and insipid. The thing that the British tabloids don’t want to say is that William and Kate can’t blame all of their problems on the Sussexes forever, even though the Keens will definitely try. Will and Kate both have to *try* to look like they’re not the petty ones, that they’re not filled with contempt and racism whenever Harry and Meghan are mentioned. So… does it make sense that Kate would try to reach out to Meghan? Hm.
Starting over. Duchess Kate and Meghan Markle have not been particularly close, but there might still be hope for a reconciliation in their future.
“Kate has been reaching out to Meghan a lot more since [Lilibet] was born, she’s sending [notes and] gifts and trying to build up a relationship,” a source exclusively tells Us Weekly. “The firm has been instructing staffers to reach out more to Harry and Meghan to get them to soften a bit.”
Kate, 39, and Meghan’s relationship was seemingly strained by the time the Sussexes announced their plans to step down as senior royals in January 2020. Following their decision to permanently leave their royal duties and move to California, Meghan, 39, and Prince Harry explained their side of the story during the couple’s CBS tell-all, which aired in March.
After the interview, a source told Us that Kate “feels that there was a misunderstanding” between her and the California native. Another insider noted that Kate and Meghan hadn’t been in contact for a while.
“They were never that close, but the reason they’re not speaking is because of the rift between Prince Harry and Prince William,” the source told Us. “Harry and William have communicated sparingly over the last year, but none of their communications have been friendly in quite some time. There is real animosity that the brothers have toward one another, and that has spilled over to Meghan and Kate’s relationship, making it very hard for them to be friends or even friendly.”
Although there has been tension between the foursome, more of an effort was made to mend the issue since Meghan and Harry, 36, welcomed their daughter, Lili, earlier this month.
“We are all delighted by the happy news of the arrival of baby Lili,” William, 39, and Kate, who share Prince George, 7, Princess Charlotte, 6, and Prince Louis, 3, wrote via Instagram at the time. “Congratulations to Harry, Meghan and Archie.”
During a royal engagement with first lady Dr. Jill Biden on June 11, Kate added that she “can’t wait to meet” the new addition to Meghan and Harry’s family. “We haven’t met her yet. I hope that will be soon,” she said.
This quote – “The firm has been instructing staffers to reach out more to Harry and Meghan to get them to soften a bit” – right after they say that Kate has reached out to Meghan. Um, is Kate a “staffer” now? LOL. How the Future Future Queen has fallen. One day you’re the linchpin peacemaker wiglet that saved the nation and the next day you’re a low level staffer at the firm, trying to butter up the American duchess with gifts of chutney and buttons (“for the baby!”). And no, this one I don’t believe. I think it’s possible Kate instructed a staffer to send a note and some button-covered hand-me-down children’s dress and that’s about it. I doubt Kate or Meghan are looking to repair this relationship. They both know it’s more about their husbands.
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Is this all part of Keen’s plan to look like a peacemaker? LMAO. Camp Middleton (Carol) is hilariously transparent.
I’m probably in the minority but I could see this actually being true. It really seems like Kate’s position with William is quite tenuous and I could believe she’s desperately scrambling for allies. Being excluded from the Diana statue unveiling was probably a wake up call for the Middletons.
i think kate would rather claw her own eyes out than look to meghan for allies. And i think that kate is safe in her marriage for now. No spouses were at the statue unveiling. They probably wanted it to be an intimate affair.
Yeah, I agree with @Pao on the matter of speaking to Meghan. Kate’s too bitter and jealous of Meghan to ever want to reach out to her. I don’t agree that Kate is safe in her marriage though. Too much weirdness in the past few months, especially from her family. And they could’ve easily tossed out “no spouses” as a simple explanation for her absence instead of the numerous conflicting excuses they’re *still* publishing.
Ding ding ding! I agree with Princess Peach. The Sussex star is rising, and if Kate is on the outs with William, she will need to try and find a friend in the family so she doesn’t get frozen out completely. If the Windsors at BP, KP, and CH don’t want to deal with her, maybe her “separate court” can include the Montecito court as friendly allies.
Meghan is too nice, and Kate knows that. But I don’t think Kate is making any real efforts. Just PR, as always.
@Princess Peach…no you are not! With these people you have to read between the lines and what is NOT said. It’s making those Bill has a replacement(London lawyer?) stories more plausible. He’s giving the single dad vibes; Kate would definitely need an ally. I’d look towards the West Coast too. Lol
Ye gads. Theres always someone who “can see how this could be true.”
But how would it make her position with William less tenuous if she were reaching out to that bloody woman?
Exactly this. She missed out on the opportunity to use the statue unveiling to further her “Kate the peacemaker” so she’s trying another angle. What complete rubbish this is.
And unsurprising. She has to have the attention, right?
I think it’s William who instructed her to act friendly to his sister in law W started to wake up& open his eyes to how much damage the Middleton did..
The same william that called meghan a sociopath, narcissist and that bloody woman just last week? Never.
I don’t think he actually said those things last week. Those were excerpts from Lacey’s book that he was promoting last week, but the interviews and quotes came from months ago, probably around/before the Oprah interview when KP started the whole bullying claim thing as a way to preemptively smear Meghan and try to make whatever she said about her time at KP with the royals seem like a lie. They thought she was going to go all in naming names and being specific about what exactly happened to her, so they started telling on themselves with “well yeah, we might have called her names and mistrusted her from the beginning but it was because she was a horrible bully and we were all so scared of her!” Then Meghan didn’t even really get into specifics or name names, and KP ended up looking like crazy, vindictive, awful, bullies. So they tried to step away from the whole bullying thing by claiming they would quietly investigate but probably not right now, and it’s not all about Meghan, it’s more about the process of how HR deals with complaints, blah blah blah, but before they decided to try to sweep this whole thing under the rug, they had already spoken to Lacey. And now his book with those interviews and quotes are coming out. Oops.
So now we’re getting all these articles about how they just want Meghan to forget it all and “soften up” a bit. They want her to pretend that they didn’t do that whole reputation crushing thing to her since they decided that it wasn’t really working for them and actually made them look bad. What’s stupid though, is that if they’re trying to soften her up with gifts and notes and reaching out, it’s not a very smart idea to have newspaper articles written about how you’re only reaching out and sending gifts to manipulate her into telling her lawyers to stop insisting that she get to see and respond to the bullying claims. They’re so stupid at PR.
I don’t know where those quotes came from but I think W stopped playing this game he seemed Exahusted& burned out in Scotland my guess its kp staff& the Middleton camp freaking out because of another lawsuitlegal document is coming. soon. W seems at distance lately & his pr is not as in your face as kate’s..
I think this could be true. I’ve begun looking at the tabloid leaks in a different way, and they make William appear horrible. Now, William probably is a horrible person, but why would HE be leaking that? Who benefits? (1) Charles, because most of the criticism in the Oprah interview was directed at Charles. It could be a diversion so people think William is to blame for the Sussexes not coming back to England, and William takes the brunt of the criticism instead of Charles. And/or (2) Kate, because she can push her own self-importance as a necessary “peacemaker” and take the credit if it ever comes out that William and Harry don’t hate each other as much as we were led to believe. You know how people say “follow the money”? I say, “follow who benefits from ‘William the rage monster’ and ‘William and Harry hate each other’ stories.” Because it’s not William.
Everyone assumes ‘that bloody woman’ refers to Meghan but perhaps it’s another duchess.
Or maybe Meghan and Harry witnessed something and she may need them in court…there was a reason Meghan took pity on her in that Oprah interview ( not saying it excused ant bad FFQ behavior, just that it’s possible)
Lol, what court? There isn’t a divorce court in Britain that will favor the Middleton over the royal, regardless.
@Laura, exactly. PR PR PR. She’s not trying to communicate with Meghan. If she really wanted to “reach out” to Meghan, Kate would correct certain false stories. These PR stories won’t negate receipts.
@Carmen-Jamrock, BWAAAAA is right.
It’s really alarming how the messaging from these people is all over the place. No direction, rhyme or reason. Just messy, petty and dumb.
Right!? The worst and most ignorant PR machine ever.
If kate is, and i doubt it is sincere, reaching out to meghan, is to keep up contact with Harry, through a relationship with his wife. I believe, IMHO, that the connect between harry and kate is deeper, and more involved than people know. Kate will never like, or be friends with meghan, as long as she has harry. I truly think you can take that to the bank.
This thing is longer, and bigger than we will ever know. Investigate before harry met meghan. The writing on the wall is there.
If kate is, and i doubt it is sincere, reaching out to meghan, is to keep up contact with Harry, through a relationship with his wife. I believe, IMHO, that the connect between harry and kate is deeper, and more involved than people know. Kate will never like, or be friends with meghan, as long as she has harry. I truly think you can take that to the bank.
This thing is longer, and bigger than we will ever know. Investigate before harry met meghan. The writing on the wall is there.
Wow. I don’t imagine Harry would go there, but I can well imagine Kate getting in her feelings about him and things getting weird between them… But that would not explain why William is p*ssed at Meghan?
My theory is more in line with one that I’ve seen alluded to on twitter; Williams jealousy re Harry being not just because of his popularity nor his landing Meghan, but perhaps because he wanted Meghan himself? And maybe – being the entitled a*s that he is – he would not just nurse a crush from afar? Meghan being the straight arrow she is, would tell Harry and then things go sideways from there…?
Kate obviously knowing her husbands tendencies probably couldn’t sleep at night once Meghan was on the scene.
LMFAO @Margaret……………..forgive my french, but youre delusional. You should look about that.
Margaret, this is the story that Keen tells herself ALL OF THE TIME. I think you need to go back and read any comments or interviews that Harry gave before he met and married Meghan. Don’t believe “sources” no matter where they are supposed to be from. Just read his very direct words. Then come back and tell us that Harry had a thing for Keen? No. And, I think you’re the one who will be surprised. I suspect you’re suggesting that if W divorces K then H will divorce M so he can have K? OH MY GOD! That’s a great fantasy world you live in. That’s NEVER going to happen.
^ That’s the hope and dreams by which the Kate stans live by.
I don’t think there’s any reason to be so mean to people for expressing their opinions, even if you don’t agree with them. People sure do get defensive on here of anything which doesn’t fit their own narrative.
Personally I don’t think Kate and Harry ever had a thing for each other. I suspect Kate wanted people to think she was close to Harry, and perhaps she was, as in-law’s but I don’t think it went further than that.
I also really don’t believe that William was ever secretly crushing on Meghan. I think rightly or wrongly, William had made his mind up that she was bad news from the start and has been looking for anything which he could use to prove his point ever since.
When the William and Kate engagement was announced Harry said “I can’t wait to get to know her”. This was after close to one decade of William and Kate “dating”. At that point Harry was in the army and he would end up serving in Afghanistan after that. They wouldn’t be living in the same continent for years. Harry was polite to Kate in public and would joke with her, as he does with everyone else he meets. And he was not a rude jerk to her during the jubilee events like William was.
But nothing suggests that Harry had any kind of deep relationship to Kate and she was his sister in law so he treated her with respect because of that.
The media decided to turn that into something, especially when Kate’s reactions to Harry’s jokes at events was google eyed almost adoration because she wasn’t getting much of that from William. If there was anything it was on Kate’s side and even then I think she was just doing her obvious flirting with men who give her a smidgen of attention thing, which she also does with that Yachting guy.
There was never any sign of Harry caring about Kate any more than he would for a sister in law of his only brother. All the Kate cooking or whatever stories were Middleton PR to try to make Kate look more important to Harry than she actually was.
And when Meghan entered into the picture, Kate went straight to bitchy mode because she knew Harry was serious and would focus all his attention on his actual love. And had Kate truly cared about Harry she would have welcomed Meghan for Harry’s sake instead of freezing her out from the very first moment due to her insecurities and jealousy of not being the prettiest young royal anymore.
Lol forever. Kate is not Harry’s kind of woman at all.
Oh they must be really worried about what is about to come out of that bullying investigation, since meghan put her lawyers on the case
I agree. My interpretation of “staffer” was “lawyer” and “soften” was “settle.”
There seems to be some kind of sh-tstorm coming down the line with this theme of reconciliation popping up in unexpected places. Not sure who put this story out and towards what ends. My guess would be BP. The blame for the rift is placed on the brothers, Kate isn’t presented as the second coming of Charlemagne— the story doesn’t say outright Kate will bring Harry and William together, just hints that maybe if the wives make up the husbands will too.
Also a bit of a shift in tone, trying to more conciliatory towards Meghan, all “mistakes were made but you’ll forgive us right? We’re talking to you instead of blaming you 5,000%”
Too bad Wooten and all the other rota aren’t on board with this narrative.
One more thing: I found the “[notes and]” weird. What was said in place of “notes and” that the sentence would need brackets to make it coherent? Kind of makes it seem like someone did call US Weekly?
^ Bingo! There’s only one reason Harry and Meghan would need to be softened up, it’s the legal involvement in the accused bullying incident.
The Firm is used to smearing people they don’t allow to defend themselves
They’re hoping water canpass under the bridge and Meghan will overlook how they purposefully tried to damage her reputation. Because luckily she has the receipts.
So, they’ll just complain more about her and spread more stories thinking it will make her comply
There is not and never was any relationship to repair.
I think Meghan would have tried if Kate hadn’t made her cry and then lied about it to the press. It also seems like she never made an effort, which is completely unsurprising
I don’t believe this story at all. Like, how’s KHate Middletonedeaf even trying to contact Meghan sending her gifts? How, do they have the Sussexe’s home address? I am pretty sure the Sussexes are directing mail to either a private P.O. Box or maybe to Archwell foundation dress. So how is this “reaching out” even happening?
Exactly this. Remember back in Harry and Meghan’s engagement interview when they were asked about William and Kate? And Meghan was very tactful and gave some kind of neutral answer, then contrasted with talking about spending time with Harry’s aunts (Diana’s sisters)? There has never, ever been a relationship. It’s like a work friendship where they are pleasant when they have to interact but they have zero in common.
The only reason that BP wants staffers to reach out is to stop Meghan from revealing that the bullying accusations are BS. “Make nice with the biracial Duchess, so she doesn’t drop the receipts.”
Same. I was thinking they are trying to soften Meghan up so that she won’t continue the investigation of the bullying investigation. If it’s true, Kate is trying to soften her up bc they are desperate for that not to blow up in their faces. Like Kate has to prostrate herself to Meghan now so she won’t keep her lawyers on them. Not sure if that’s the case but that’s what would be interesting.
Too bad Keen couldn’t/wouldn’t interact with Meghan and months-old Archie at the polo event they all attended.
If (big if) these friendly overtures are happening, it’s all so clumsy and transparently manipulative. Meghan is gracious about Keen, but she’s not stupid.
I agree with what you say @damejudi. Her actions in the past show who she is. It wasn’t only Meghan she has been ugly to, but she has left a trail of victims in order to get to wear she is. Meghan is not stupid, and sees Kate for who she is.
“Meghan is gracious about Keen, but she’s not stupid.” This x1000%
Truly, it’s a shame they didn’t have a friendship. It’s an unusual life to live, and they could have had each other for support, the cousins could have been close, etc. The press would have always pitted them against each other, but they could have been allies in making good lives for their kids in that messed up family. But Kate didn’t seem one bit interested in that, and is far too competitive (and always came up short in comparison).
Kate is not a reacher outer sort of gal especially to other women. She’ll reach out to a handsome man though.
True, but she is competitive.
And if she is living a separate life from her husband it’s possible she wants to be the one who can be seen in a better light.
How much of Kate’s bitterness do you think can be traced back to her jealousy over the fact that Meghan “stole” Harry?
I think she may be bitter that Meghan “stole” Harry in a sense that Harry was fun and added charisma to the Cambridge’s lack of energy. If anything, Kate is bitter that Meghan snatched a prince who is in love with her and adores her.
A lot. The narrative in the press was that Kate was the sister he never had, someone he could innocently flirt with, and also some creepy surrogate mother who would cook him roast chicken. I can imagine the engagement roast chicken story with Meghan really pissed her off since that particular detail was always associated with Kate.
That always read as Kate PR to me. Harry himself admitted he had no relationship with Kate. By the time W&K finally married, they were off in Wales then in Norfolk. They weren’t hanging around KP waiting for Harry to drop by for chicken dinners.
I think it infuriates Kate that harry doesn’t fancy her at all, yet he’s crazy hot for Meghan. Keen stans creamed their pants when Kate and harry did that engagement together, it think it was the Anzac service at Westminster abbey, Harry glanced at kate and half smiled. They want keen to have both brothers.
This has been her MO her whole life, always in competition with other women, even her sister.
So, first Kate was texting Harry…now she’s hitting up Meg all the time? Someone wants us to think she’s a beloved family member, but….who is buying that?
Really?! KateCarole realised that shitting on Meghan won’t help Mrs Buttons image so now they’re changing up their tune? Little slow on the uptake lmao
I don’t buy this at all. I doubt she even asked anyone to send a hand me down. But of course someone in her camp wants to she sure there’s a leak to an American outlet that Kate is trying.
More of the “peacemaker” narrative from Carole and Keen. It just makes me believe not and more that she was the instigator.
Yeah and the thing about this narrative of her trying to be a peacemaker with Meghan is insidious bc later they can say well Kate tried to heal the rift but Meghan just refuses to let it go. Is this a sign that the narratives are starting to actually align? Bc it goes with what others are saying about how it’s just Meghan who won’t get along and everyone else is ready to forgive but not her. So we can blame it all on her.
I think Kate was ordered to clean up the mess she made with the cry story and to shut her family up .
This is all American PR for Kate. She wants clout here like Diana had and Meghan has in America. I doubt she or William have the Sussexes number.
I do believe the Queen and maybe even Charles and their courtiers are trying to get the Sussexes back into their system via these staffers.
The only thing that Keen Guevara would “try” to connect is by going full on Single White Female on her, as she has since they happily left Salty White Island of Rage. Kate would not lift a finger for her correcting the crying story, but she would reach out when TOB publicly stated that neither of them liked her from the beginning. Busy, busy, busy trying to paint Keen Guevara as the only savior for The Monarchy for the past 9 months and her tactics become more desperate each day.
It would actually make sense if William is a bully that Kate wouldn’t be able to be friendly with Meghan because of his dislike. As H&M said, nothing is what it appears to be so who knows. That would also explain why Meg referred to her as a “good person” and implied she wasn’t free to correct certain stories. If Kate is starting to feel like she will be dumped eventually, she might want H&M as allies.
Good luck with them being her allies, lol.
Kate wasn’t just “not friendly” with Meghan, she throws her under the bus all the time and did so from the start. Her mom and uncle shading and criticizing Meghan is proof of that. She was and is outright hostile.
I think when they said “nothing is what it appears to be” they are referring to the tabloid narratives propping up the one couple and destroying the other, not Kate’s agency.
Meghan herself said that she got frustrated because the Palaces were intent on correcting stories about Kate and not about her.
The rift started with the brothers but it suited Kate just fine since Meghan was her “rival”.
There’s a difference between not being friendly to Meghan because she doesn’t want to displease her husband and using her (and her family’s) connections to attack Meghan. Kate did the latter.
The “Meghan made Kate cry” story was written by Tominey, someone who is clearly part of Middleton (not Cambridge) camp. The “Kate the Great” issue was also something from the Midds camp (it portrayed William in a bad light) ane they made sure to attack Meghan. Her mom has been running a PR campaign that’s not in line with KP’s for a while now. She could have clarified a few stories, but chose not to.
These new stories are being put out there to correct the narrative that Kate destroyed when she freaked out when asked about Lili, admitted she hadn’t called H and M to congratulate them.
But, as a lot of people on here have pointed out, Carole may be more pro-William than pro-Kate. Most people seem to think in a divorce she would stick with being the supportive MIL instead of the supportive mum. So Carole’s agenda may not be under Kate’s control either. Meghan went out of her way to support Kate in the interview. She didn’t have to add the “good person” or the part about not hating Kate because you like her. And, Meghan, unlike those speculating, has met Kate.
Carole does not have control of the courtiers who approved the legal team to go after the Tatler story.
Carole does not have control of the offices who release the press statements denying stories about Kate’s hair and face work.
Carole may be more pro-William and that may have an effect in private, but there are plenty of maneuvers coming out of KP and sanctioned by the courtiers that she has no power to approve. She can leak to the press, she can try to instruct Kate in private, and that’s it.
What this means is that the initiation is coming from Kate who is after all the Duchess of Cambridge, the wife of the Heir, and approved by these “grey men”. That has been the pattern ever since the first stories when she was newly married saying she ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT GET EXTENSIONS, etc.
Kate’s uncle has talked publicly about how horrible Meghan is. If Kate wanted him to stop, or the courtiers too for that matter, he would.
Harry and Meghan were getting death threats basically once the media and the Royal Family started the stories to counteract the news of the Oprah interview. They are not stupid and knew people would be waiting to pounce on whatever they said and they chose their words carefully in advance. Even with what Meghan said, Kate stans were saying her words were endangering Kate and her children and were slanderous. Anything else would have put Meghan at more risk of abuse and that was to be avoided. I don’t think it was for Kate’s benefit.
Carole didn’t act like a bitch at the commonwealth service. That was all Kate on her own doing it in full view of the public. I will certainly say that Carole is behind a lot and likely encourages Kate to act like this, but Kate is an adult woman who thought it was appropriate to freeze out her sister and brother in law at a church service because she didn’t get to be in a procession.
Will also has control of KP PR. And it has long been a method of the courtiers and BM to pit married-in women against each other. They did that with Fergie and Diana. What I believe is what came straight from Meghan’s mouth and not from “sources” or courtiers.
Kate pitted herself against Meghan. I do not understand the concept of absolving her because Meghan said one nice sentence about her. And that sentence wasn’t “The establishment was pitting us against each other which wasn’t true because Kate isn’t like that”, which, during this interview where she was talking nonstop about the problems of the Firm, she would have said if it were true. She said merely that she was a good person, a token remark after clearing her own name, and said no more. And guess what? Even that statement didn’t keep Kate’s own mother and uncle from smearing Meghan subsequently.
Meghan is an articulate person who knows how to say what she wants to say. If she wanted the message that Kate wasn’t responsible for this negativity she would have made damn sure to say so. She didn’t. She was polite and that was it.
Apparently it’s all in the hands of Carole, William, the courtiers, Gary, anyone but Kate herself…the meanies even forced her to wear white on Meghan’s wedding day, lol…
Meghan said Kate was a “good person” despite the fact that we all saw Kate freeze out Meghan and Harry at the commonwealth service a year before. That is not the action of a good or nice person. So we don’t need to read courtier messages to see Kate’s own actions are not good and Meghan was being nice about it. Meghan knows she can’t go after the white woman who has been protected since day one. Her words basically confirmed to me that she has some sympathy for Kate, likely because the outburst was relating to William’s cheating, but she didn’t get into it more than that.
There is no excuse for Kate’s nasty behaviour at the commonwealth service and it concerns me that despite video evidence of her bitchy behaviour we are still trying to absolve her from everything. She may not have been behind all the attacks. But she certainly was behind some of it and permitted her family to go directly after Meghan.
As long as the Middleton camp persists with their attack campaign pitting Kate against Meghan, Kate is up to her elbows deep and dirty. She allowed that crying lie to linger and fester and didn’t admit to it. Plus her own mean girl behavior as well. She is definitely no innocent in this mess.
Honestly, I started thinking Kate played a lot more role than people think.. the tabloids bashed Meghan nonstop & painted Kate as a saint.. who leaked the Meghan made Kate cry story in the first place I doubt W was involved with bridesmaids dresses.. who used to run to Knauf to correct stories about one’s baby botox on Clinic’s insta page? Also how kate arranged to go to Sarah Everard vigil & had reporters ready to stand at bay to take pictures?? something tells me Kate& Middletons have more access to the press& tabloids on speed dial with the help of KP staff of course..
She sure did. When we look back, there are plenty of little passive aggressive (or outright aggressive) behavior from her.
The Middletons behavior in the run up to Pippa’s wedding. They would brief their reporters with “will Meghan come?” to amp up the interest and then they said she couldn’t come to the ceremony.
Kate’s entitled behavior before Meghan’s wedding, thinking she could dictate things. Then she went to Tominey, one of the Middletons pet reporters, to brief and outright lie on Meghan to make herself the victim.
That little comment about how she “did the hospital photo call because she understood how important it was” right as Meghan was being absolutely slammed for not doing the photo call.
Wearing the earrings Diana wore to Harry’s chistening to Archie’s christening was another little jab.
Carole Middleton’s PR shoppe is a hot mess right now.
To be fair, twice is a lot more than none…
Well, if the previous amount of reaching out was zero, then one IG post is “a lot more.”
This sounds like one of the recently alluded to behind-the-scenes plans that the crisis managers have whipped up to deal with the emergency. And by emergency, I mean Meghan’s 30-page dossier about how uncooperative the KP staff really were to Meghan, the gross misconduct that triggered the departure of the staffer who ran to the tabs, and Jason Knauf’s two-faced performance in the role of William’s henchman. Of course, Kate wouldn’t have the character to actually interface with Meghan, so maybe she online ordered a smocked blue dress so Lili can copy Charlotte. Throw in a photoshopped card from the kids ala Granny Diana’s. All this would of course convince Meghan that she’d be hurting the family by continuing her self-centered mission to defend herself.
I think that that is exactly what this “reaching out” story is all about. The 30- page rebuttal on the bullying claims. They know meghan will go public with that. And I secretly hope the sussexes pay CNN or any other american broadcaster a good sum of money to broadcast it. Note how the article says that staffers have been reaching out?
Spot on comments, Kaiser. I’m not buying any of this FFQ reaching out a hand to make nice. Kate was and still is a huge part of the issues that led the Sussexes to the decisions they were pretty much cornered into making. Both William and Kate are major, racist bullies in my opinion. I don’t think it is all about the brothers as House Middleton now wants to spin it. Kate was nasty from the start and still hasn’t let up….I don’t care how many PRETEND emails, texts, notes, and unthoughtful gifts she likes to brag about to the 🐀Rota.
I say, shut them all down Meghan! Bring on that 30-page response to their bullying BS. Someone’s got their knickers in a twist that you’re going to spill the truth.
We all know that Kate saw Meghan as a threat from day one and so when we heard stories like when she didn’t offer Meghan a ride to the store it fit with Kate’s past behaviour toward Harry’s other girlfriends.
And it wasn’t a coincidence that Kate suddenly wore more repeats than ever when Meghan was pregnant and having to wear new clothing because she wouldn’t fit in her pre pregnancy clothes.
And that’s just a sample of the Kate only actions that were done to make Meghan look bad.
And don’t forget Kate completely icing out Meghan and baby Archie at the polo match.
Someone posted this story on Twitter and I said then as I’m saying now…no, she’s not. Kate wouldn’t “stoop” to interact with Meghan. Especially not now after the allegations and all the other leaking that’s occurred since the Oprah interview.
If Kate was reaching out then she would have already met lili. How can Kate and Meg mend fences when William and Carole and uncle coke bottle Gary are all still trying to destroy Megs. The only reason they want her to soften is so she drops the proof she has that she didn’t bully anyone and make them look like the liars they are. Racist idiots
It isn’t about their husbands. It is about W&K’s racism and their acting against Meghan from the beginning. Kate and her Mummy Dearest have been briefing against Meghan for almost five years now. That isn’t William’s doing, it is jealous, petty, racist Kate and Carole’s doing.
I wonder what made them switch gears like this.
Maybe Carole has figured out William plans to out Kate as the racist family member who drove Meghan and Harry away.
@nota i don’t think there’s a divorce brewing but if (and that is a big if) william has found someone and wants to replace kate then casting her as the one who caused the “rift” sure is easy. Meghan actually gave him an out with that one by clarifying the crying story. And im pretty sure there are more things kate did that meghan got the blame for.
Side note: i do think there are issues in the marriage. They look miserable together as of late. But i just don’t think a divorce is in the cards for them. At least for now.
The “staffer” comment threw me as well. Why does the staff need to reach out to Meghan more. What do they have to do with anything?
One, if they are saying that Kate’s staff is being told to reach out to Meghan more on behalf…well that’s just dumb. Cellphones, computers, tablets, etc. exist. There is absolutely no reason one family member can’t just dial another family up or use their What’s App group to reach out.
Two if Kate has been reduced to down to a “staffer” like a secretary trying to reach out to Meghan on behalf of the royal family, than yikes!
What is Carole going to do now?
Imho, the “staff” are the ones who created and are still creating most of the negative press about Meghan. And having “staff” reach out to a hurt family member just sounds so cold and wrong on so many levels, like the royal family is outsourcing kindness and compassion.
True, Harla—but they have to outsource qualities that they themselves do not possess.
Meh. Don’t buy it. I don’t think their relationship is as bad as it was reported (back when they made the feud out to be Meghan vs Kate rather than their husbands) but I don’t think they’re on talking basis with each other beyond the odd happy birthday/anniversary I suppose.
But Meghan said Kate is a good person and has been with Kate on a level none of us will ever be. She’s also seen the Cambridge marriage behind closed doors and we haven’t done that either. So obviously Meghan knows better than us and maybe they are talking.
I would doubt they are talking. Gary and Ma Middleton made it plain this year what their camp thinks of Meghan and there’s been no retraction.
Kate refused to befriend Meghan from the start, kept her children from interacting with Archie at the polo match, set her horrid mother and uncle to attack Meghan in the press from the start. Kate gloried in the PR from the crying story for two years, could have set the record straight, and didn’t.
I think Meghan had to say something ‘nice’, while still wanting the truth out about the crying incident Kate lied about for two years. Does that make Kate a ‘good person’, or Meghan a diplomatic one for trying to say something nice about someone who mistreated her for four years?
I never said they were besties or even friends. I’m just saying that I don’t think the relationship was at the level of “wanting to tear each other’s hair out” that was implied in the press when the “Meghan vs Kate” stories were at their highest.
And even if it was, Meghan and Kate seemed friendly enough at the 2018 Christmas Walk. Maybe they wanted to slap each other but they seemed to be able to fake the funk at least. William couldn’t even do that.
But a lot has happened since then of course.
This absolutely this
@Sofia, that 2018 Christmas Walk seemed pretty tense in general, and not just between William and the Sussexes. In videos and pictures, William was frequently on the sidelines walking ‘alone’ and Kate was grouping herself with Harry and Meghan. I think someone here speculated that Will and Kate might’ve had a fight beforehand. Late 2018 is apparently when the whole Rose-Kate fallout and “phase her out” demand started, according to the initial articles, so perhaps she wanted to antagonize him by making a show of being friendly with Meghan at the 2018 walk. Personally I always thought Meghan looked a bit wary of Kate at that time, especially since that was also when the “Meghan made Kate cry” lies began.
Meghan was being kind, as she usually is. As Serena said, “Meghan is too nice.”
That may be it. Guess I was just trying to play devil’s advocate by pointing out that Meghan has seen Kate and her marriage on a level we never have and never will. She also obviously knows more about them more than we ever will.
You could argue that both ways. Having seen Kate, she knows exactly what she will do if she feels threatened and she chose to not engage beyond clearing her own name.
@Maria: You absolutely have a point. I agree that you can either see it as Meghan having seen the Cambridge marriage and knows more about the “real” state of it and Kate or she also knows that Kate can and does get jealous of other women because again, she’s seen the “real” state of Kate.
I pointed out below that Meghan’s comment could have been a strategic one.
Meghan and Harry didn’t live in Norfolk, they weren’t living in Middleton Manor. They were in the Cotswolds or in Windsor. I doubt they know much of anything about the state of the W&K marriage. All they could experience was brief moments in public, seeing how W&K interacted at public events with them.
@nota and they also lived in London for a bit together. Not neighbours but same area. They also spent 2 Christmas’ together. That’s the minimum but it’s far more time than we will ever spend or see with them.
I think Meghan was able to rise above all the petty attacks Kate did through her family and she would have been able to be civil to Kate in public. So I don’t think Meghan hates Kate and she is sympathetic to some of the stuff Kate is dealing with, especially with William and the cheating.
When Meghan said she was a good person she was referring to that. Notice she didn’t say Kate was a nice person. Because she isn’t.
They didn’t live in London together. Harry and Meghan got the secret house in the Cotswolds almost immediately, while W&K were in London or hiding in Norfolk. They weren’t hanging out, hosting dinners, or even on the same side of the massive KP compound.
As for spending Christmases together? I think Charles/Queen made W&K let Harry and Meghan stay for a couple days that one year. Because Sandringham was full and both (QEII and Charles) saw it as a way to keep the Midds out that year. I am sure those couple days were hellish with W&K doing their best to ignore and belittle Meghan at every turn, as much as Harry tried to cover it over. After that, the Midds were back at Anmer and Harry/Meghan were elsewhere.
@nota and despite all of that, no matter the distance, Meghan has been behind the door in a way you (and I) never have. She’s seen more than we ever will, despite the limited interactions. And of course, she could have heard things from others that we haven’t (yet).
Once again, Meghan’s comments could have been strategic. I’m just thinking of other possibilities. I’m not absolving Kate or acting like she’s innocent. She’s not.
If Meghan had sympathy about that business arrangement marriage, I doubt things would have turned out this way. She would have found a way to work with Kate, because Kate would have wanted an ally. Except Kate is happy with what she has, cheating husband and all. This is what she worked for for 10 years.
Kate (and Mummy Dearest) was only unhappy because Her Harry was taken away from her by evil Meghan. She and her family went all-in against Meghan from the start. From that first moment around the shopping trip, Meghan knew there wasn’t any point trying with Kate. Work colleagues only, and then it became work colleagues who stole Meghan’s work, tried to steal her charity funds, and lied about her to the press. She may pity Kate for the fact that Kate is a terrible human and Kate is happy to be a terrible human, but that’s about it.
@nota who’s to say Meghan didn’t initially try and reach out but Kate said no because, as you said, she’s happy with what she’s got?
“She may pity Kate for the fact that Kate is a terrible human and Kate is happy to be a terrible human, but that’s about it.“
It’s possible to dislike someone for what they’ve done to you and also feel pity for the situation they’re in. Even if they put themselves in that situation. Meghan may feel a similar way.
Or she doesn’t and her comments were purely strategic to avoid criticisms of not being complimentary towards Kate (and she was still criticised).
That’s what I wrote, that Meghan found out right at the start that Kate had no interest in any relationship. No point in having sympathy for a horrible marriage it is the marriage Kate wants.
Meghan being a kind human being who has sympathy even for that bitch Kate? That makes Meghan a kind human being, but in no way absolves Kate for what she and her family have done for the past five years.
@nota: I completely agree that it doesn’t absolve Kate in any way. She’s still guilty.
The truly interesting thing here is despite all that Meghan said about how she was mistreated, the fact she said Kate was a “good person” seems to serve as absolution of Kate from some commenters here.
Meghan CHOOSING to be magnanimous isn’t Kate’s absolution. It’s not, esp since that was said when Meghan was discussing a very specific situation regarding some bridesmaid’s outfits/tights. It does not negate literally EVERYTHING else that Kate (and William’s) employees and her family members has said to the press.
She’s a “good person” who allowed a lie to fester for whatever reason, which is likely why Kate’s decision to NOT correct the record confused Meghan (since Meghan would have never let a lie stand that she knew would damage another person).
I’m not trying to absolve Kate. I have also said elsewhere that it may have been strategic on Meghan’s part.
I was just stating that Meghan has seen Kate and the Cambridge marriage on a level we haven’t seen. Almost everything about them is a carefully manufactured image that could be very very different behind closed doors. Meghan has been behind that door in a way we haven’t and never will. So it’s obvious she knows more than we do.
But as pointed out above, Meghan could have also seen that Kate isn’t a nice person at all. And again, it could have been strategic on her part.
She said Kate was a good person, but she also nothing is as it appears.
Yes but that can literally be applied to anything and everything.
For the last time, I’m not saying that Meghan and Kate are besties. Meghan just knows more than we ever will and has her reasons for saying it. Whether it’s strategic, out of genuine care or both is up for debate.
Jan, I think nothing is as it appears. She didn’t want to trash Keen. Anymore than Harry wanted to trash Mean. That wasn’t the purpose of the interview. They laid this on the shoulders of the Firm and BM. Yes, Harry was angry (and shocked) that PC cut off security, and he let that be known. And, they did explain about the conversations regarding Archie’s skin color–making sure not to name anyone. No, M doesn’t think K is a good person. This was a carefully thought out answer in my opinion. But Keen Kant knows damn well that Meghan has no warm and fuzzy feelings about her, and we know that Keen doesn’t like Meghan at all as demonstrated by her actions. Nothing is as it appears, indeed!
And Kate must be be bewildered that Meghan called her a good person when she knows that she’s actually not. Meghan’s playing some mind games and keeping Kate off balance, Kate knowing that Meghan can drop the ball on her at any time.
It’s crazy how people make excuses for Kate. Meghan saying she was a good person was a polite answer to bit put anyone in further problem.
I wonder if Meghan gives Kate a pass because she (Kate) is too stupid and dependent and talentless to have made other choices. M gets to feel genuinely good about pitying K, and M gets to minimize K as a enemy in her own head. Basically, b*tch ain’t worth my energy.
This is Damage control PR Tactics kate desperately want to make herself seem well liked member of the royal family. She couldn’t get a invite to the statue ceremony so now she trying to use Meghan and lily to created the narrative of peace maker . I don’t think kate gives a damn about Meghan feelings or Archie and Lilly she will use them to make herself seem like a good person to the press but she just as involved in the smeared campaign with William that’s the only time those two work together . I don’t why people are always constantly trying to give kate the benefit of the doubt her uncle has go on national television trashing Meghan and Harry but mostly Meghan he said awful things about Meghan. But we’re all supposed to believe he didn’t get his marching orders from Kate and her mother to trash Meghan .
This whole television season of “Cambridge & Sussex” has just been plain weird. There is no common thread and journalist change their POVs hourly not daily.
I think it has sunk in to everyone (Cambridges, Courtiers, Royal Rota Rats, Royal Experts, Historians, Academics, Middletons and most of the hater commentariat of The Daily Fail) that the Sussexes are coming back. I think all the parties involve are just throwing out life lines to see if anything or anyone can be saved.
As I said in another thread; It is GAME OVER for The Firm when QEII passes to great horse stable in the sky.
It really is like watching the British equivalent to “American Horror Story” where every season is a different theme. We’ve had the Dad Letter season, the Bullying season, the Oprah season, the Lilibet season, and on and on. And each equally as terrifying.
This has been talked about before but: I think people need to stop using Meghan saying Kate is a good person as a way to explain away Kate’s bad behavior which continues.
Meghan is a gracious person who wanted to get her side out without insulting Kate because it would have opened up a giant Pandora’s box of headlines and depending on what she said about her, possibly legal action, and in any case that’s not Meghan’s style either. During this whole saga both Harry and Meghan have complimented various people involved who did not deserve it because they were taking the high road. That’s their choice.
But it doesn’t mean Kate and she are talking or that Kate did not play an active role in this.
I can definitely see Meghan’s comment about Kate as strategic on her part. Anything less than total compliments would not go down well for her headlines wise so knew what she had to say.
I don’t think they’re talking either but as I said above, I do think Meghan is the type to wish happy birthday or something. To the kids at least.
That’s exactly it. Let’s be honest, Meghan is a half black woman being purported as a white woman’s rival. Even though the truth is on her side, she knows a lot of people will still see Kate as a victim with no agency being attacked by the scary black woman. Even here, people still make excuses for Kate. Meghan knew what to say so the media wouldn’t turn her comment into Kate vs Meghan part 35 and claim she was attacking Kate (which actually did happen in the tabloids).
The same happened with Harry and William. William did do a lot of shit to hurt them and Harry still went on to say he did love his brother, even though their relationship was “space”.
Yeah I definitely think Meghan is reaching out if anyone is. Not anything more than superficially, lol.
Thank you. I’ve said it several times before, but please everyone, just imagine what the reaction would be if Meghan had said anything less “nice” about Kate as a biracial woman, especially after years of being unfavorably compared to the “perfect white duchess”. Also consider the fact that Meghan is a “girls’ girl” and is highly aware of the sexist nature of the feud narrative. She was probably trying to defuse some of that.
Agreed, Maria. Too many people are using Meghan’s diplomatic comments as an excuse to say Poor Kate has no agency and didn’t make the choice to bully Meghan privately and publicly for four+ years.
Agreed, it’s infuriating to see people constantly try to excuse Kate’s actions because William is awful. Having an awful life doesn’t excuse someone from being a mean selfish a-hole who purposely tries to harm other people.
We don’t excuse Wills and we should not excuse Kate. She is NOT a victim. Just because she’s a white english rose doesn’t automatically make her a victim based on her own PR machine. Based on her actual actions we’ve seen in real videos, we know she is a mean cold person toward Meghan.
3 possibilities, as I see it
1) Since Middleton PR is very divergent from KP PR and Kate is a competitive person, this might be her trying to be more visible in the USA outside the Trumpian crowd. Makes sense, in this case, to say one thing to the american media ( Kate texts with Harry, Kate texts with Meghan) than to the UK media. ( Kate thinks Meghan threw her kids under the bus.)
2) This is fanfiction, pure and simple.
3) Kate is bracing for separation/ divorce, hence this insistence she is some sort of peace maker. Top CEO did not work; mean girl at Commonwealth only appealed to karens and William is not givinh her a fourth child. What worked? Kate, the funeral peacemaker! This was a hit. Kate texting Meghan is a stark oposition to William calling Megahn ” bloody woman” and yes, if things get bad and William starts throwing Kate under the bus and blaming her for the state of his relationship with Harry, as I believe he will, Kate can run to Katie Nichols and remind people that Meghan said she was a ” good person”, that she made peace at funeral, that she is texting Megs etc…
Middleton PR at its finest!
I do think it’s interesting how this “Kate is a peacemaker who’s reaching out!” is completely opposite of William’s “He hates Meghan, never liked her, never will and doesn’t want to reach out.” Another example of how different their PR is from one another.
And as someone mentioned above, maybe Kate needs allies. I am in camp “W&K will never divorce” but if it does happen, Kate will not have many allies in the UK besides her family, a few reporters and a small group of supporters. And if things get bad for her and she needs time to decamp, an 11 bedroom (is that how many bedrooms they have?) house in Montecito may come in handy.
I am 50/50 on divorce. I say William and Kate have been, for some time now, following a pattern we all know: a part-time, tentative physical separation, explained as ” work” to children and concerned family members, followed by increasingly strained public appearances, where the only times we see happiness is when the children are around, and an almost religious obsession in painting the loveless marriage as a ” stable, peaceful” union….
Now, if this is what has been going on lately, I can only stay on the ” no divorce” side if this has been the plan all along. ” Kate, we will try to have a small family, cosplay middle class, but if I dont like it, we quietly separate , yes? Like aristocrats do, you know? No divorce, plenty of pictures.”
But we will never know if that is the case, right?
As for allies, a relationship with Megahn and Harry would only help her on the USA, and as a PR. I think the appearance of a relationship is what Kate is aiming here, either to continue to paint her as a peacemaker, in contrast to William, or , you know, she really wants to piss off William for good, lol
Kate let her abusive, racist lies about wedding tears stand for almost three years. She and her tacky family were an active part of why Meghan was suicidal. Harry isn’t going to welcome Kate into his home.
I’m with @notasugarhere on this one. After everything that went down? I don’t care if Kate is being pursued with flaming pitchforks — Harry and Meghan aren’t giving Kate refuge in their home.
“Kate, the funeral peacemaker! This was a hit.”
Baldingham does not want Kate to have anymore “hits”.
“if things get bad and William starts throwing Kate under the bus and blaming her for the state of his relationship with Harry,”
William does not care one iota about Harry. William only cares about what his public (Fail, Quora and Scum commentariat) perceives to be the truth. All this nonsense about brotherly love and brotherly closeness if just revisionist fan fiction.
“Kate can run to Katie Nichols and remind people that Meghan said she was a ” good person”,”
If William exorcises Kate’s wiglet a$$ to Bucklebury, Katie Nichols will no longer take calls or reply to texts from Kate/Carole; we are talking a full-out ghosting job the likes of which has not been seen and will top any Piers Morgan’s ghost stories. Kate and Carole know this.
Kate Nichols is so bad and out there that I am convinced she gets money from Uncle Gary. The woman speaks to whoever is paying her, it is amazing to me. I see her definitely going ” both sides” of her mouth in case of a separation tbh.
The Middletons were in an uproar over Meghan even before Harry and Meghan got married. Remember all the articles about Meghan not attending Pippa’s wedding but going to the reception so as not to “steal the show” at the ceremony? I always found the slow wedding march out the church in front of the press the most idiotic thing I ever saw lol. Pippa obviously looked happy with her new husband but she was THRILLED to see the media there at her wedding (the only reason they were there was to get shots of Kate, William, and the kids who were in the wedding party). She was so happy to get attention and did not want Meghan there to take away from it (ironically, her wedding would have gotten way more coverage had Meghan gone). Sometimes I wished Harry hadn’t gone to that wedding, the Middletons treated Meghan like crap from the start.
It’s so weird to see Kate use a US based outlet to push this olive branch to Meghan story. Even if there is some truth to it, maybe she could have acted like this… oh I dunno, a long time ago!
Weren’t the Middletons briefing the media, claiming that Meghan would attend the wedding just to get more press writing about the event? And then they said she couldn’t attend the ceremony because it was a “no ring, no bring” type of event, even though Eugenie attended with her then boyfriend. They’ve had an issue with Meghan from day one.
Yes, that’s what they traded in exchange for freebies or reduced rates on those services. Every article about the wedding, from flowers to stupid glass houses, had info about will-she-wont-she-attend bits about Meghan. Deliberately. Otherwise no one would have cared about Pipsters wedding.
Tinfoil Tiara Time so brace yourself and set the dial on HIGH:
Ma Middleton HATES Meghan because she really wanted Harry to marry Pippa and she really believed it could happen. I do not think this had anything to to with PR or media coverage because media coverage would have been 1000 times greater if Meghan had attended the wedding. Here’s the thing, if Carole had befriended Meghan this would have given her an even bigger road “In” with the RRs as she could convincingly leak about both Meghan and Baldy and not be questioned.
I think there is an element of that because Harry sent a press release shutting down all the speculation about dating Pippa pretty quick. So Carole is likely bitter about that. But Pippa was marrying moderately wealthy James by the time Harry was with Meghan so Pippa has moved on.
I still think the main reason Carole dislikes Meghan is because she’s everything that Kate isn’t. Intelligent, sophisticated, pretty, effortlessly glamorous, thin and charismatic. She also is ambitious and self motivated whereas Carole was the driving force for Kate’s tiara journey. And Meghan didn’t have to wait a decade for Harry to propose and it’s clear he adores her in a way William never has with Kate.
Carole was incredibly upset when Harry didn’t go for Pippa. After his press release, Carole sent out stories about how she hated Harry, he was so uncouth, he wasn’t a gentleman, Pippa would never want him. She was really angling for that match. The bought title Sad Sack James was not what she wanted for Pip.
Carole also has a seething PR sore spot about herself, not Kate. Doria was widely accepted and embraced, rockin’ her locs and her nose stud. Carole is hated and mocked, Doria is loved.
Instead of insisting “staff” reach out to the Sussex’s how about asking Harry’s actual family members to reach out or at the very least quit running to the tabloids every 5 minutes to leak another bs story.
I really don’t get how the Firm thinks this constant deluge of half ass PR is in any way helpful to their brand anywhere outside of Salty AF Isle. I’m sure that the royalists are eating it up but anyone with half a brain can read clearly between the lines and see it for the utter crap that it is.
Whatever doubt anybody had about Kate’s feelings toward Meghan should have been answered during that ‘You Could Have Had a Bad ‘B’ weekend before the Sussexes’ exit from the Firm.
First, Kate showed up shamelessly attempting a pap stroll the day after Harry and Meghan’s ‘Blue dress, ginger fire, smoking hot, you can’t make this S$$t up, matrix style slow motion rain drops’ photo that went insanely viral. Then she ghosted them at the Commonwealth Day ceremony the next day.
It’s clear to me that Kate was/is/has always been all kinds of jealy of Duchess Meghan.
Bullsh*t. These guys didn’t even have the courtesy to call Harry to tell him his grandfather had passed away, I doubt they have their number now. When you spend so long in trying to convince people that you’re not the “bad guy” you’re not going to be the first to extend the “olive branch” behind the scenes. No way.
Also, Kate’s yellow trooping the colour outfit, I’ve seen pictures of Princess Diana wear that exact same style somewhere and standing similarly like that? I’m sure I’ve seen it somewhere it’s at the back of my brain. Ha anyone else noticed that?
Idk, the family told Keen she couldn’t go to the statue unveiling and now they are telling her to mend fences with Meghan. Not that she wanted to but clearly says the order came from the firm. It looks to me like this is the beginning of the smear campaign being put on Keens padded shoulders. After all much did start with her and someone has to be the new fall guy for her husband.
Hope you like the duchess title because it’s not looking like POW is in your future.
I don’t believe this at all. I’m sure a token of congratulations was sent and that was about it. Even if Kate doesn’t feel like she is competing with Meghan, I don’t think she has the lady balls to reach out to Meghan after everything.
The way Kate is looking at Meghan in that top picture with all of them in tha carriage and the way Camilla is stunned by how Kate is openly looking at Meghan with the vile smirk, tells you all you need to know about Kate. She is a royal Karen to the bone who is obsessed with Meghan man and can’t get over the fact that Harry was never hers to begin with. She hates Meghan for taking away Harry from her because in her head he was hers .
One word: b-u-l-l-s-h-i-t. We all saw how awkward it was when she was asked about Lili and she spewed a bunch of lies. Come off it. Kate is irked by Meghan’s entire existence. Their lies are just childish desperation at this point. Kate looks like hell and so she should. Besides, how did Kate reach out? Phone? Email? Zoom? Regular mail? Laughable.
Keen is going to take the fall for sussexit, she’s seen the writing on the wall and is trying to clean the shite of her face. I sincerely think William is planning another exit, leaving keen and her social climbing family.
In February, Kate was lining up eager to testify that Meghan was a bully. Now in June/ July she’s reaching out? Yeah, no. That “30 page dossier” must be a doozy.
I eagerly await the facts about W&K not contacting their staff for over a month at a stretch, while Meghan was there ready and eager to work. The shock of being asked to actually WORK? Gosh, guess the staff consider that bullying.
I’m calling BS on this, even though Katie Keenbridge should be kissing Meghan’s feet for speaking so nicely about her during the Oprah interview. If those palace idiots had just left it alone, the story would have been “Meghan clears the air, Kate relieved to finally be able to discuss what happened truthfully, both are OK.” Seriously, it was a PR gift that, naturally, those morons completely blew up.
It just comes down to Kate being a mean, petty and lazy person. What a jerk.
No comment on the latest “Kate is the greatest person ever!” story, but I wanted to comment on how gorgeous Meghan always looks, especially when she is by Kate. She may be older, but her face radiates beauty that can’t be touched. I’m jealous, but in a not-run-to-the-tabloids way. 🙂
Does a differene of five months really count as ‘older’?
Until Kate explicitly apologizes for letting the false crying story linger for years and removes her uncle and mother from attacking Meghan, none of this is credible that she wants to mend fences. She can say the courtiers are briefing against Meghan are because of William, but she can’t say that about her own damn relatives.
Besides this story is basically really only saying that they asked their staff to send baby gifts which is bare minimum and has no personal touch.
I could see W&K sending baby gifts for Lili as a courtesy and that’s the max of reaching out. Clearly having to admit she hadn’t met the newborn Lili & therefore possibly hadn’t personally congratulated Harry & Meghan wasn’t a good look for the early year’s champion & the peacemaker extraordinaire
Remember the weekend before the Oprah interview there was headline that the Sussexes thought Kate& Camilla’s offices were leaking against them? Will& Charles’ names were conspicuously absent. Coupled with Kate snubbing Meghan on camera at the CW service & then it coming out that Kate made Meghan cry & Meghan saw this as the start of the character assassination- many predicted that Kate could be the fall guy for Sussexit.
I think the peacemaker articles & now this one is to counter this especially where Lacey is out there making William the main face of the Meghan hate in the palace.
As for Meghan saying Kate is a good person on Oprah she may genuinely think that because whilst it sounds like they had limited interaction, they probably were friendly in person. but also whilst correcting the tears story she likely didn’t want to be seen as attacking Kate so think she was careful.
Friendly in person? Kate refused to give Meghan a lift shopping early on, when she LOVED getting papped with Chelsy years ago. Kate deliberately let the lie about crying stand for almost three years. Kate and her family refused to let Meghan attend Pipsters wedding. Kate instructed her children not to speak to or show any interest in baby Archie or Aunt Meghan at polo.
If that’s what you consider ‘friendly in person’, I wonder what you consider unfriendly.
Her ignoring Meghan at the Commonwealth Service and her ignoring Meghan and Archie at the polo match and making sure her older children ignored her too isn’t really being friendly in person.
I think there is a kernel of truth in this story but it is being embellished into being something that it isn’t. After the embarrassment of admitting at the G7 that there had been no contact. KP sent a congratulatory note and a baby gift just so they could later leak like right now that there had been contact. They pulled this same BS after Archie was born. Suddenly, there was a flurry of stories about Kate being supportive. We now know that the text Harry supposedly sent to Kate was probably the group whatsapp text for the baby announcement. And the communication that Harry and William were supposedly doing this week was actually simply finalizing details for the unveiling. Sometimes they flat out lie. Other times they take something inconsequential and make it momentous. Also, because Kate was excluded ceremony and Harry limited his time at KP, they couldn’t leak any fake Kate peacemaker stories so they substituted this. The part about staff being encourage to reach out is just a bizarre detail. But I agree with other commenters that it likely has to be related to Meghan pursuing the bullying allegations. But why would Meghan have any contact with any current staffers at all.
Yeah, this story is not true. She admitted in the engagement with Jill Biden that she wasn’t talking to the Meghan and I don’t think that has changed since then.
Meghan is now free to deny false naratives or stories.
You might get egg on your face to use meghan to build yourself up by lying and claiming you are reaching out to meghan.
Maybe Kate’s sending some of her patented early years “advice” to Meghan – did you know that most people don’t realize the importance of the early years? Followed by screenshots of pie charts, lol.
If the royals are counting on Kate to be in charge of outreach, it doesn’t bode well.
i am wondering,can the Firm try to talk to Meghan privately since there is a pending investigation of bullying against Meghan? why will staffers try to talk to Meghan,she does not work for the Firm anymore and there are no friendship between them.? William is part of this investigation since he claimed Meghan bully HIS staff.so this bullying claim had to have happened when they was sharing staff. I am guessing if anyone have something to say ,they will be directed to talk to Meghan Lawyers. when it comes to Catherine, don’t think she has any close bonds with any of the royal family. her husband being the future ,future king ,have everyone walking behind her according to rank. except the Queen,Charles/Camilla. they usually only meet at events and family gathering 2 times a yr.
They can try but I’m sure they will be met with ‘talk to my lawyers’. After all they are the ones who created a bogus investigation and turned it over to a law firm so Meghan has no other option than to bring in her own lawyers and let them sort it out.
Clearly the lawyers for the firm have told them there is no basis for the accusations so we’ve been hearing that they want to be closer to Meghan and why doesn’t Meghan just take the blame and let it all go away. They are trying to find a face saving way to drop the investigation because it was built on nothing. Khate is being pushed out so she may get the blame for the bullying accusations.
There are 5 innocent children involved who are 1st cousins. Maybe it’s worth the effort for the sake of the children.
Kate didn’t feel that way when she and William deliberately kept their children from meeting Archie for three months and she made sure her older kids (with the exception of little Louis who was too small to be lectured about it) ignored their aunt and cousin at that polo match.
Their comments about Archie’s birth were basically “oh Kate’s sister already has kids so we know what being an aunt and uncle is like, so this isn’t huge”.
Ah, yes the “won’t anyone think of the children??!?” angle.
As a parent one on of the key jobs is to keep your kids safe, including keeping them away from toxic bullies who barely acknowledge their right to exist or who would throw mud at their parents. If there is distance between the Cambridge kids and the Sussex kids, the blame does not lie with Harry and Meghan, and they can’t bridge the gap unless William and Kate behave differently… ie better.
Sweep bullying and racism under the rug ‘for the children’? Doubtful that would even make a difference. It’s been said Khate was always ‘wary’ of Meghan, so she did not and will not make an effort for the children to be close.
I’m sorry, but this is such a BS argument. Why should Meghan and Harry have to put their children in that awful environment when Kate and William have been consistently briefing against them even when Meghan was suffering with suicidal ideations, when she was pregnant, when she just had her baby?
Two of those children deserve to have their mother’s name cleared from the charge of bullying. The lawyers are doing the work, I doubt the kids are bothered let alone Meghan and Harry.
Nope. Racist parents often raise racist children, and it’s pretty obvious that W&K are bigoted. The Sussex kids will be far better off not knowing their Cambridge cousins.
Nope. Just nope. If one set of cousins is being taught it’s perfectly acceptable to throw Aunt and Uncle under the bus so Mummy and Daddy look good, they are being raised to have no issue throwing their cousins under the bus when they get older. Add in strong threads of racism and xenophobia, the other set of of cousins will avoid them like the plague as they should. Won’t YOU think about the children who don’t deserve to be raised as scapegoats and whipping posts?
Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who’s the fairest of them all?
If any of this is remotely true, and I doubt it, Meghan would be very silly to trust Kate if she starts coming around with baskets of poison apples or sharpened spindles. Meghan is way too smart to fall for any of this.
oh that 2nd and 3rd pic Meghan looks so much younger than Catherine.
I think Kate might be reaching out but I’m sure Meghan has nothing further to say to either her or William. She will allow her spouse to sort them out as he sees fit and will not engage them in any way and keep it to polite niceties. I don’t think Meghan, Archie, or Lili will set foot in the UK again until Lili turns 18.
“Duchess Kate” and “Meghan Markle”?
Right from the start this article betrays the author’s bias, which lets you know how much weight to give what follows ie none.
This right here. They refuse to even use her title in this stupid little article. Kate embarrassed herself at the G7 and blurted out they hadn’t reached out at all or seen the baby. William is going on about how much he hates Meghan every day now. I don’t think Kate has reached out at all apart from some generic card sent by some flunky. Look at how thirsty her family is in the press, especially her scummy uncle. Kate is a user and once again using Meghan to improve her image after being completely sidelined for the Diana ceremony. Meghan has better things to do than play Kate’s desperate games. Her and William are cut from the same cloth and both equally responsible for this situation. She’ll smear Meghan, copy her style, then pretend to be a peacemaker. Such BS and spin.
Mahatma Middleton is not making peace making overtures towards Megan. This is more BS from CarolE to push Keen Kkkate for a US audience.
Her husband clearly despises her but TOB in my opinion will not get rid of her anytime soon, or rather will not be allowed to. He is under the thumb of the BRF, the Rota and the Tory establishment. No way in post Brexit increasingly xenophobic UK can these two be seen to fail at marriage whilst the errant Prince and his bi-racial American wife continue to build a happy marriage and happy unit. They’ve sold the Cambridges as the great white hope, a symbol of the pinnacle of Englishness against wokedom. They are stuck and no amount of fist clenching and jaw grinding from TOB will change that. Good they deserve to be miserable after what has been done to Megan and Harry.
This is a fake story, sources are other reporters and while I do think that Kate may be reaching out because we know she likes kids every other part of this story is rehashed information or fake.
She likes her own kids. I’m not sure about other kids.
Meghans position as a ‘former royal’ is so much better than Kates would be if willie dumps her. Kate would be on the scrap heap, no friends, no allies (except for Tominey) she probably won’t even get as much money in the settlement as she would like. Plus her reputation will get dragged through the mud.
If she reached out to Meghan it’s entirely calculating. Meghan is thriving, she has multiple projects on the go and she is very well connected. Meghan was smart to build her network outside the aristocracy whilst Kate tried to be one of them. The aristocracy never even accepted Kate as future queen so I’m sure they can’t wait to see the back of the middletons. Once she’s out the door it will be closed and she will have no one who is influential, powerful and has money to turn to for help.
Kate’s biggest mistake was that she saw everyone as a threat, she never saw how valuable having allies actually was.
Agreed. All those people Kate passed on the way up, she’ll pass on the way down, and because of the way she treated them, no one will care. Meghan would have defended her to the end if Kate had been halfway decent. But she wasn’t, so she only got a weak “she’s a good person,” which is what you say when you can’t think of anything good to say about someone, but you don’t want to be as awful as they are.
I do believe kate contacted meghan, but only once.
It was when kate had to send flowers with card asking for forgiveness because she made meghan cries during the fitting of flower girls.
Maybe now, she asked her assistance to send card to congrats lili birth after the stupid comment about face timing lili.
But she wont call meghan because she doesnt have M&H numbers.
She cant ask the queen or euginie either because they doesnt trust and maybe hate her too.
You know, I actually do believe that there is some truth to this. But it’s worth pointing out that like, sending notes and little gifts every once in a while is the bare minimum of politeness for the posh crowd, so I don’t think Kate is really wearing herself out too much by doing the smallest amount of what’s required from her, socially speaking. It’s a sort of constrained politeness that doesn’t mean a whole lot at the end of the day.
Let’s not forget, Katie Keen got herself in trouble before this for allegedly trying to “freeze out” Rose Hanbury after the last little bout of wife-swapping and bed-hopping went pear shaped–and she got her ass handed to her by Rose, because freezing people out is simply not done. You smile through gritted teeth and hand out the invitation for weekend shooting parties and dinner in the country, because demonstrating politeness is more important than actually being polite towards other people, let alone being kind and considerate.