Wootton: Prince William & Harry will have issues ‘at least while Meghan is on the scene’

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Dan Wootton used to be a royal-gossip guy at the Sun, but he’s moved over to the Daily Mail as a columnist. The move has been… odd. Wootton’s columns for the DM have been genuinely unsettling, as he has an extremely creepy energy for and about Prince William. Wootton seems to believe he’s speaking for William entirely and/or speaking for William’s interests. In April, two of Wootton’s columns genuinely freaked me out – one was the “open letter” to William, encouraging him to forget about how much pain Harry had caused him, and the second was all about how much vile hatred and anger William has for Meghan alone. Oh, and don’t forget this shady column about William and Kate’s marriage. YIKES. My point is that Wootton is way too familiar. Inappropriately so. And now he’s written a terrible column about the Diana statue-unveiling and how everything is Meghan’s fault. Some lowlights:

Diana would be so mad: Conscious to keep their emotions at bay, as royals do, the dukes attempted to be jovial, but the emotional weight of the moment was evident. Both boys know in their hearts that their mother would be deeply distressed to know her sons no longer talk.

William & Harry’s seismic gulf: But, in reality, the gulf between William and Harry is now seismic and, according to senior royal sources, possibly insurmountable. At least while Meghan is on the scene. If one picture best summed up the relationship between the pair today, it was the two brothers with their backs to each other, going about their business in very different ways. Harry, ever the joker despite his deep anxiety over returning to London, was attempting to lighten the mood. William, his body clenched with the awkwardness of his failure to hide the fury he feels towards his younger sibling, was dutiful and statesmanlike.

Why William is mad: William is forever conscious of the fact Harry’s departure to the US to make his millions has left his family with the weight of the royal duty they had always planned to share. The bond he felt so deeply with Harry has been replaced by rancour over claims by the Sussexes that his family are racist and were uncaring about a suicidal Meghan.

Revisionist history about Diana: Perhaps if Diana were still here she would have been the only person who could have convinced Harry not to throw away all the goodwill with the British public he’d spend his life building up. While many comparisons are made between the impetuous nature of Diana and Harry, she never waged such all-out warfare on the institution that made her the world’s most famous woman. Even the Panorama interview was largely an attack on her husband, not the Royal Family. And after her divorce, she remained in residence at Kensington Palace almost entirely focussed on good deeds and how to make a difference in her new role, rather than making millions for herself.

Meghan’s motives: Maybe Diana would have been the one person who could have warned Harry about Meghan’s motives before they married. Both William and The Queen tried and failed. Prince Charles wouldn’t have even dared.

[From The Daily Mail]

It’s funny to me that all of these royal commentators are just using Diana’s memory for their own dumb purposes. But it’s also funny to me that they have to be so careful about not extending these thoughts and manipulations too far. Sure, maybe Diana would have had some issues with Meghan… but what always goes unsaid is that Diana would have seen the Middletons for what they are, social climbing hustlers with a shady backstory. And Diana had no issues with attacking the institution. Yes, she was mad as hell at Charles, completely. But she knew the failures of the institution too, and while she didn’t want to burn it all down, she did want to get the hell away from the entire g–damn family.

Anyway, Wootton was a bit shady about William too, right? “William, his body clenched with the awkwardness of his failure to hide the fury he feels towards his younger sibling…” OMG. And stop with this “share the duty” crap. Baldingham is lazy and engorged with rage. Harry got out while the getting was good. Enough.

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  1. L84Tea says:

    “William is forever conscious of the fact Harry’s departure to the US to make his millions has left his family with the weight of the royal duty they had always planned to share.”

    Liz never shared the throne with Margaret. Charles never shared the throne with Ann or Andrew. Why was Harry expected to share in that duty with William?? I mean, we all know why–because William isn’t fit for the job–but it still needs to be asked out loud.

    • Sofia says:

      Exactly. Being monarch is not a 2 person job. It’s a 1 person job. You don’t hear how Charles needs Anne/Andrew, how HM needed Margaret, how George VI needed his younger brothers etc etc.

      If there is something that is actually preventing William doing his job in the future, then I as a British citizen want to know. However if it’s just laziness from William then that’s not on Harry to “fix” or “help” him.

      • L84Tea says:

        I really wish a journalist would explore that more–why does William need so much help?

      • Jay says:

        Yeah, I’m genuinely interested why this keeps being brought up. First, as you say, the whole point of a monarch is that it’s ONE person, right? Why does William need his brother, exactly? And second, William is still third in line to the throne, so it’s strange he keeps talking about his ascension as if it is imminent. It seems presumptuous and also sort of insulting to his father. And finally, there’s lots of work he could be doing, could have been doing for at least a decade actually, if he was really concerned about not being ready to take on the duties of king. That would be a better look than whining about Harry “abandoning” him.

      • Over it says:

        I said this further down before I read all of yours.

      • LMR says:

        They can’t seem to choose a lane on this, can they? It seems simple to me. If the monarchy is a one-person job, then one person should be able to perform all the duties. If the job of the monarchy is too much for one person to perform alone, then there should not be just one monarch. My dog can figure that out.

        Secondly, how does Wootton know that “they had always planned to share” the duties? Did someone confide that in him? Did both brothers really plan to share the duties or did Wills just assume without asking Harry?

      • Yvette says:

        @Jay … Thanks for putting it so eloquently. I’ve thought the same about William’s attitude and his apparent dismissal of his father’s place above him. And anyone with his apparent lack of control over rage perhaps shouldn’t be in line for the throne at all. But that’s for the British people to decide, and they’ve had a monarchy for over one thousand years.

      • Shawna says:

        It’s literally in the word!! MONarch. Mono = 1.

      • Moxylady says:

        Why would he need his brother when he has an ACTUAL WIFE WHO CAN BE A PARTNER AND HELP?!? Why is it on Harry? William is 40 AND MARRIED!

    • equality says:

      I don’t think Harry’s plan was royal duties; he wanted to continue in the military. His location was outed and the Queen supposedly persuaded him to give the full-time royal “work” a try. Makes you wonder how his location (same as with in Canada) got outed.

      • Ania says:

        Exactly re:location. Now I will never believe in a coincidence when it comes to those people.

      • Bess says:

        I thought the reason Harry left the military is that he would be unable to be promoted any further because he didn’t have a university degree or unable to score high enough on the exams because of his learning disability.

      • goofpuff says:

        @Bess That sounds more like jealous William propaganda about Harry.

        Harry did explain why he had to leave the military and its all out there about his location leaking, not wanting to put other people in danger, and the family wanting him to come back to take on royal duties.

        Also, William would never have graduated with any degree without significant help/cheating considering how lazy he is. Do you really think he would put in the work?

      • equality says:

        @Bess I think the camaraderie and being a “regular” person is what Harry liked about the military. I don’t think he was worried about how far up he was promoted. I have also heard that he couldn’t be promoted to a rank that was higher than any Will ever held.

      • Lizzie says:

        Bess, I thought Harry had to leave the military because he wasn’t allowed to outrank Bill. IDK, just what I remember being said at the time.

      • Jeremy says:

        His location got outed but he was also just getting to the age where he was supposed to move to a desk job in the military. But he failed the computer test so he couldn’t

      • equality says:

        @Jeremy Proof? The only thing I can find about a computer assessment (not test) was in 2005 when he was starting at Sandhurst. And, do you really think, if it was royally approved for him to have a desk job, it wouldn’t have happened?

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @Bess, no. Do a search on becoming an armed forces officer in the Royal Army. targetcareers.co.uk. We don’t know for sure Harry has dyslexia. All we know is that Jeremy Clarkson had an article in The Sun saying Harry disclosed that to him while on vacation in Barbados when Harry was with Chelsea. Oh and Clarkson mentioned they were playing scrabble too! The whole story seemed odd. And other places carried the story and all of a sudden it was the Truth. Until Harry says it publicly that he has dyslexia, I will wait on believing it. Princess Beatrice opened up about being dyslexic-Harry’s been honest about other things, so I’m not seeing why he wouldn’t address it now, his mental health throughout his life would be a good segue to talking about dyslexia. Having dyslexia doesn’t have anything to do with intelligence either. Having bad grades in school isn’t a mark of low intelligence either. One of the biggest stoners I know from high school, who just barely graduated high school, is a self-made multimillionaire whose company has made best places to work for lists (in my state). He’s also a really nice human and is very philanthropic. Sometimes I think those rumors were started to make Will appear smarter than his brother or to divert from the fact that there were troubles at home (that IS a big one with a lot of kids that are not doing well in school-being Royal doesn’t exclude one). @equality, I couldn’t find one either. @Jeremy, please share. Peter Hunt did. “He’s cherished doing a job which he was given on merit-and not because he’s a prince.” The reality is that Harry hasn’t failed. When he went into the army, jokes were made by the tabloids that he couldn’t do it. He succeeded expectations. Harry married a beautiful, intelligent WOC who was and still is persecuted by the Firm & left them to save her and his son and has succeeded beyond expectations. FU Hugo Vickers and others. The failure of members of his family/the Firm & the British Media, to take him seriously when he more or less said no more-tells me-that they have a bigger learning disability that needs to be addressed.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        I hope my links go through. Meant to be within my comment.


        At the end of the day, my belief is that Harry loved being in the military and couldn’t be active the way he wanted. He didn’t want to put his comrades in arms at risk. Plus, Will & Kate were making headlines for being work shy.W & K were embarrasing the BRF with their laziness. Dan Wootton, why don’t you write a story about what Will was doing while his brother was fighting in Afghanistan. Yea, not a lot to write about. But, yes Dan, while you are waxing poetic about shared royal duties and such…can you please tell us when that was in Harry’s plan?

    • Deputy Dot says:

      Hasn’t Prince Tampon been planning for a while to slim down the number of working royals? We’ve all seen the photos which only featured HMQ, Tampon, Wilbert and Georgie the catalogue model/calendar cutie. Harry was notably absent.

      • MissySnow says:

        Harry is too far down in the line of succession to have been in the the picture with HMQ, Charles, William and George. The same lineup will occur when Charles is King and we see William, George, followed by George’s oldest son/daughter.

      • Fawsia says:

        Do you think will be working royal anytime soon? They still need bodies to do the current work. Also, that picture was done when George was 3 years old. That picture didn’t mean there won’t be any more people than those 4

    • Demi says:

      Right, that photo signalled to the whole world it’s going to be only Monarch and future heirs in the slimmed Monarchy so why they need Harry?

      • MissySnow says:

        When you see the balcony pictures from 2012 Harry was always part of the slim down monarchy and his spouse, but no had a clue that he would marry a woman or color and that is when they came up with their brand spanking new plans.

    • ShazBot says:

      I think it’s more than William is bitter about his role and wanted Harry to be there miserably at his side forever – not going off and having a good life that William couldn’t have.

      • Asking for a friend says:

        Totally agree! Instead, Harry got all the amazing gifts from living a genuine life and even better…freedom from the firm.

      • thaisajs says:

        Absolutely. I think this is just straight-up sibling jealousy. William would love to be lounging in a multi-million dollar beach house instead of grimacing his way thru endless teas and ribbon cuttings.

    • harla says:

      If William is going to “share the burden” with anyone it should be with his future Queen, not his sibling. But everyone knows that Kate is not up to that task so it’s never even mentioned.

      • Sounds like William grew up thinking Harry was born to be “the Wind Beneath HIS Wings.” Problem is William spent to much of his future kinglyness crapping all over Harry.

      • Jais says:

        Perhaps if his wife was better at sharing the burden then William wouldn’t need Harry. Don’t even mean that as a knock but Harry is v good at the job, a charismatic people person, and Will can sit back more when he’s around. William has to be more on when Kate is around to compensate.

      • Nic919 says:

        Bingo. Normally the monarch shares any burden they might have with their spouse. This was the discussion with Elizabeth and Philip, George VI and the Queen mum, and even Victoria and Albert. At no point so they drag in the closest male sibling. In fact historically they tended to be a threat to the monarch.

        So a lot of this is because William doesn’t seem competent to be a monarch (let’s not pretend you need to be a genius to do this stuff, none of the Windsors are) and his spouse is pretty much a dead weight. None of this is Harry’s problem.

    • Tessa says:

      There is no talk of Charlotte “sharing” the work with George in future. In fact, Charlotte is already excluded from events involving her brother the “heir” like the pudding stirring exercise of the “dynasty.”

    • Gk says:

      What exactly does duty entail? From my view not a lot of work, public worship, money/ luxury, having to hide stuff the public won’t like. You can abdicate if you don’t like it. IMO duty is a misleading word used for royalty.

      • dollycoa says:

        Their only duty is to the Windsors, and to keep the Windsors on the Throne for as long as possible. They do the charity work and the opening of hospitals because they have to, because they are getting public money to do it, despite having huge amounts of personal wealth somehow. I am convinced this is where all the vitriol comes from. Harry, by leaving, has proved that they could leave if they really were burdened by duty. Republics exist. They could easily say they wanted George or even William to be the last Monarch and lead a gradual transfer of power, leaving enough time for a transition to an elected ceremonial Head of State for Britain and the other countries who have The Queen as Head of State. They don’t, because they desperately want to be there, and continue their life of completely unearned privileges for them and their descendants.

    • Isabella says:

      Wooten mentioned those millions twice. Very telling. They just hate Harry & Meghan’s financial independence.

  2. Rapunzel says:

    Lol…Harry may have thrown away the goodwill he built up in England, but he’s gained way more global goodwill. Diana would have understood that.

    • Pao says:

      The whole thing that she never attacked the institution is simply a lie. “I suppose i didn’t have as many supporters in that environment as i thought i had” she was referring to “the firm” here, the men in grey.

      And she also spoke about the level of neglect not only by her husband but by the whole institution. There’s some serious re-writing going on.

      • equality says:

        Yep. The royal “experts” apparently cater to the gullible who are too lazy to research what Diana herself said. And, yes, she stayed at KP but did she have options while Harry and William were young?

      • Demi says:

        She never liked them she called them that f—cking family in squidgygate

      • Lyds says:

        Yes. She said the family saw her bulimia as the problem, not a symptom of her problems with Charles. They were dismissive of her mental health then as they are now with Meghan’s. If Diana had a partner who was powerful and willing, she probably would’ve been happy to burn the palace down.

    • Truthiness says:

      At this point, Wooten’s arguments are hilarious. Setting conditions for Harry’s return while he is so busy WINNING with his new jobs, his life of service, his hot wife and babies, a nice home by the ocean…aww, that’s adorable Dan. Harry was a charming class act this week and you want him back, but you have to write everything for Will’s mind or you lose position and favor. So Dan has spun himself into a corner. What happened to “damaged goods” and “he can’t succeed on his own?” Harry’s not even competing but he is practically walking on air, he is so much happier, healthier, and doing the Queen proud.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @Truthiness, Yes….Harry & Meghan are doing something the Queen should be/is proud of. Self Reliance and success. Dan Wootton has spun himself into a corner as you said. Harry leaving the Royal Family on his own (hypothetically-Meghan not being in the picture ever) would have created a problem. Harry like Diana-made/makes them interesting-globally. Add Meghan in=extra wow factor. William leaving the Royal Family to do his own thing would be a postcript in history. Kate does not nor ever has the thing Meghan has. You can’t always explain it, but you know it when you see it. Meghan has that thing about her that some are jealous of and some of us find admirable….and maybe aspire to. She also has the most extraordinary kind eyes I’ve seen in few people… Right, “damaged goods”.

  3. girl_ninja says:

    Like the rest of the royal rotten Dan Wootton is a racist liar who is obsessed with Harry and Meghan. These people have no problem showing their ignorant racist asses.

    • Julia says:

      I’m skeeved out by so much of Wooton’s tone, and I can’t see any other explanation for it than a toxic mix of racism, classism, sexism, and anti-Americanism. Look, neither one of them are “boys”. They’re fully-grown men who should be able to put on their big boy pants and be polite to one another, particularly in front of cameras. Reporters need to stop blaming their wives/mother/Spotify deal/whatever for their inability to just be semi-estranged like most of us do with irritating relatives. I can’t believe anyone is still writing sympathetic articles about *poor* William, a nearly 40 year old man who will be KING one day, with unfathomable wealth and power, and why it’s so terrible that he’s had to “suffer” having an opinionated American SIL. Like, isn’t he supposed to personify having a stiff upper lip? British phlegm? Never complain, never explain? Seriously, the British people are supposed to be “lead” by this giant baby?

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @Julia, spot on. Dan Wootton and these other rota, tabloid “journalists” are not helping themselves in making Harry & Meghan ‘look bad’. My a@@hole of myself wants them to keep it up. If any of them truly believes/wants/thinks Harry will come back……they’ve not clued in that guilt trips are NOT the way to go. *poor William* had to endure that his scapegoat brother married a WOC and quelle horreur?, she had her own ‘fully formed opions’ as most adults do. Question, if I’m misunderstanding, is British phlegm different from other phlegm? I’m curious. In general, I’m not a fan of phlegm. Regardless of the country of origin.

  4. Emily says:

    Wife = on the scene? Like some temporary piece.

    Talk about disrespectful and divorced from reality.

    • Laura says:

      EXACTLY. The way they write about her, as if she’s a temporary girlfriend, is scary. I think they hate her so much (for being black, American, and assertive) that they truly assume Harry must not actually love her. They genuinely believe one day he will “see what they see” in her. They are that delusional and hateful.

    • Charfromdarock says:

      It’s so gross.

      And they keep telling on themselves for wanting her gone, one way or the other. It’s disgusting.

    • Ania says:

      It sounds disgusting and I am sure to sound like that. How can you be so vile and write those things? I get tabloids and trashy Articles but they are on a mission to destroy this woman and I cannot stand it.

    • Scal says:

      Right?! They have two small kids together. She’s always going to be ‘on the scene’ 🙄

      Like you said-she’s a wife not a side piece

    • Merricat says:

      Dan Wootton is a hack whose sole claim to fame rests on his racism. How proud he must be that he will be known, if he is known, as such.

  5. PEARL GREY says:

    This is William’s way of telling the world “it’s not me, it’s HER!” He knows how much his abhorrent treatment of his brother and his wife has tainted his reputation, even with the British press protecting him at every turn, his image has taken a hit. He faces even more irreversible damage if it is ever confirmed that it was him who made racist comments about Archie, so he is using every mouthpiece at his disposal to get the word out that Meghan is the problem and the only thing standing in the way of the big reunion of Diana’s boys. 99% of what Dan says comes straight from William’s mouth, including that creepy open letter. William is publicly pleading with Harry to leave his wife and children, and return to his duty as human shield to the future king. He can’t cope.

    • Pao says:

      I think meghan is taking proper legal action which is about to expose them (William). Which is why they are becoming more unhinged with this whole “meghan must be gone” narrative and are moving hastily to put all the blame on her

      • SexyK says:

        Yes. The royals are going be a laughing international joke if it only comes out she sent emails at 5 AM via that independent investigation.

  6. Abby says:

    “ At least while Meghan is on the scene. ”

    That just sums up their strategy doesn’t it? In the end, this is all a “get rid of Meghan and bring Harry back to Williams heel” thing. I guess I just haven’t seen it so *explicitly* spelled out before.

    • Persephone says:

      Another important question: why has no one brought Dan Wootton to heel yet? He seems to be getting away with a lot…

      • Lauren says:

        Dan has dirt on Baldingham’s wondering penis. He was the one to break the story about Rose. When Kensington Palace had it pulled, Dan started getting exclusive tea reaaaaally close to the Keenbridges. Like boyfriend of an important member of their staff close. Basically in exchange for dumping the Rose story, they gave him stories on the Sussexes. He also knew about Sussexit before the news broke, when Harry found out he decided to announce it himself so that a least he and Meghan had control over that but.

    • Aphra says:

      What a grotesque phrase! Grrrrrr! H&M were geniuses to get the heck out.

    • ABritGuest says:

      I’ve seen at least 4 royal commentators say the brothers will not reunite unless Meghan is ‘gone’. Ingrid Seward even said one of the wives (Meghan/Kate) would have to die or there be a divorce before reconciliation can happen. so sinister & dangerous.

      what can Meghan have possibly done to William that means she has to be out of the picture?This is also sick as they are also playing on fact that when she was suicidal she said things might be easier if she wasn’t around.

      Why is there expectation that Harry would be sharing kingly duties with William? And why can’t the kingmaker & jewel in the crown Kate help William? Honestly this seems like another failing of Elizabeth & Charles in perhaps not getting William in full time duties, getting ready for his role until 2017. Instead of having Harry doing the ‘hold off republicanism’ tours to the Caribbean etc, they should have been getting the future king & consort doing this work.

      Plus if they needed Harry so much why did William allegedly kick Harry out of KP? Why were they suddenly claiming that Harry wasn’t part of the slimmed down monarchy vision a few weeks ago. Basically they screwed up the smear campaign to drive Meghan only out & massively miscalculated by losing Harry too.

      • Demi says:

        Maybe there’s a power struggle in the firm itself. Charles plans for slimmed Monarchy while William’s handlers & even Charles people know that William isn’t fully capable& is ill-prepared to take over from Charles.
        Meghan ruffled some feathers during her time in the firm what stood out to me when Harry said in the documentary that “Meghan was really shocked when she saw what is behind the curtain”.. Meghan knows something that is threatening to the firm..

  7. Pao says:

    “Sharing the duty”

    Has anybody ever referred to Margaret as sharing the duty with Elizabeth?

    Has anybody ever said that about andrew in regards to charles?

    Why does the “duty” need to be shared? Only one man can wear the crown after all.

    • dollycoa says:

      Margaret wanted to share the duty, but The Queen said no, leaving Margaret as a useless spare part, drunk and suicidal at the waste of time her life had become.

  8. Noodle says:

    Twice he mentioned their leaving to “make millions”. H&M did not leave the UK with the sole purpose of “making millions”. They left before of the racist, toxic abuse of that family. Since Charles cut them off, their hands were forced to earn a living for themselves. But yes, let’s focus on the fact that they are self-supporting and judge them for that.

    • Rapunzel says:

      And let’s never forget: they offered to stay part in and were rejected. The family forced their hand; they didn’t just up and go.

      My thought has always been that the Sussexes wanted part in to make money to fund a full break after the queen passes or maybe once Wills took over. They didn’t just jump out- they were pushed.

    • L4Frimaire says:

      I don’t know why they’re so obsessed with them making money. What part of financially independent do they not understand. They’re obsessed with the cost of their house, their deals, if they fly private. Meghan isn’t going anywhere and they keep wanting her to go away because they think that would reduce Harry back to the same basic phone-it-in level of William and Kate. Wooton is a professional troll and his newest gig at GB news is a fascist joke.

      • KT says:

        They’re obsessed with it because it removed their public interest argument for invading their privacy. The argument was always that the public have a right to know about the Royals because we pay for them. If we’re not paying for them that (always flimsy – there’s loads of civil servants who get paid from taxes whose private lives we have no right to know about) then what exactly is the justification for the extreme invasions of privacy?

    • JanetDR says:

      Yeah the “making millions” makes it sound like that’s a bad thing. I guess leaching off the people while hoarding a substantial portion of the world’s wealth with your behind on a throne is much better than working?

  9. Jay says:

    Their division is “insurmountable, at least while Meghan is one the scene”, huh? So if Harry ever were to divorce, he’ll be more than eager to come back to the family that asked him about his son’s skin colour, were racist assholes about his daughter’s name, were racist and enabled harassment of his wife and then denied her help when she was suicidal, and made Harry’s life miserable for years? So he can “share” William’s burden.

    Really, Dan? I hope you hold your breath while you wait on that one.

    • Seaflower says:

      If Harry were ever to divorce/Meghan wasn’t “on the scene” Harry would not go back. He has his children now and he would never subject them to the vileness of the Firm and RR.
      The family, firm and RR have no imagination – they believe being in is the only option. Harry’s now seen twice (military service and his new life) that he can exist successfully and happily, and be much more effective outside the family with his causes than he can be inside.
      He went back once for the family when he left the military, he won’t make that same mistake again.

  10. Miranda says:

    Is there anything that ISN’T Meghan’s fault? Should we just assume that she’s also the Zodiac Killer and the 20th 9/11 hijacker?

  11. Elizabeth Kerri Mahon says:

    When did the Queen warn Harry about Meghan? I must have missed that little tidbit. All I’ve ever heard was that the Queen was very welcoming to her, she even did an engagement with her early on after Harry and Meghan got married, which is something she never did with Diana. And what is this about Meghan’s motives? I’m really tired of this BS. In her engagement interview, Meghan was gung-ho about being boots on the ground, she was eager to get to know the different charities in the UK. I’m sure her enthusiasm was completely off-putting to the KP staff who were used to hanging around playing Candy Crush since W&K were never around. And Wooten is the 2nd RR to suggest that everything will be okay and go back to normal if Harry divorces Meghan and comes back to the UK. They really haven’t heard a thing that Harry has said over the past few months.

    • Snuffles says:

      The Queen was the only one who was decent to Meghan and made the effort to show her the ropes.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        Yes, and if she had had any reservations, TQ would not have given her permission. Dan Wooten is another unhinged delusional RR that has his eyes set on Meghan to be the only problem within the family and The Firm.

        If TOB was truly willing to be competent king, he would have spent the last 15 years preparing for it, but he hasn’t and he won’t. He refuses to do any actual work, as he would prefer to only benefit from being FFK.

        The actual plan within The Firm was to have Harry work together with TOB due to them knowing that he is actually incompetent and lazy and The Monarchy needed Harry to do the heavy lifting given how dedicated he is in all of his endeavors.

      • Bess says:

        Wasn’t there a rumor that Sophie was supposed to be Meghan’s royal tutor?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Bess, any such rumour would have been started by Sophie herself. But all the royals have said, there is no training program. You learn the job by doing it.

    • Shelley says:

      The queen was the one who gave Harry PERMISSION to marry Meghan!!! These RR are just pissed that the queen kept quiet about Lili’s birth and name!!!

    • Izzy says:

      This! Suddenly this is part of the narrative?

    • Lyds says:

      William’s camp is really doing a number here, aren’t they? “The Queen and William (and Diana’s Ghost)” were against Meghan, but “Prince Charles would never (have the guts to bring it up).”

      The fractious relationship between William and Charles is once again evident, and we also see why Harry was so upset with and disappointed in his father: he must’ve initially supported their relationship (at least at the surface level) before going to the dark side.

      As for whether the Queen truly questioned Meghan’s suitability, I think this is just William showing his alliance with the Queen and painting Charles as a spineless regent to be passed over. Seeing all this palace intrigue play out in the press is sure something; so much for Charles and William getting closer in the wake of Sussexit.

    • Carmen-JamRock says:

      They always try to snuck betty into their grievance against the Sussexes….its their pretence that Bullyiam is NOT waging a one-man war against M, in a febrile and futile attempt to get H to return to the UK and under this thumb.

    • ShazBot says:

      The Queen DOGSAT Guy before the wedding! She was photographed driving with him in her car.
      If that doesn’t indicate a warm welcome, I don’t know what does.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Harry set up a special tea for Meghan to meet the Queen, at which the Queen’s dogs fell all over Meghan’s feet and loved her. In Liz’s mind, if the dogs like you you’re good.

        William? He left Kate to meet the queen solo in passing at Peter’s wedding.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        Yes! The Queen’s corgis/dorgis have been her most trusted advisers/companions over the years. Their opinion holds more water to the Queen than most humans. They wagged their tails in approval.

        Wootton trying to plant new seeds re: the Queen & Meghan. W & K must still be beside themselves regarding Lilibet Diana Mountbatten-Windsor.

  12. STRIPE says:

    The reality is, even if someday Meghan and Harry do divorce (which I doubt but just for arguments sake…), I think Harry has been so turned off by his family and the institution at this point, it won’t make a difference. He’s not coming back. Also, Meghan being “out of the scene” doesn’t change the fact that his kids are mixed race, and he won’t want to expose them to racist BS, Meghan or no.

    • equality says:

      Even if they divorced, they still have a shared production business (with contracts) and foundation. In a lot of cases people who are divorced still remain business partners, especially in Hollywood. Not to mention, Harry is the one with other business contracts right now like Better Up.

    • Bess says:

      Also, I can’t see Harry wanting to live in a different country than his kids. He talked about wanting to be a dad for years before even meeting Meghan. There is no way he’d want to live far away from them.

    • Seaflower says:

      I just mentioned this further up, but you said it more eloquently.

  13. Wiglet Watcher says:

    The press are losing steam going after anything Sussex. There’s just repeats at this point. How long can they keep this up? Viewership isn’t climbing and it’s only a matter of time before they go after Midds/Cambridges/Goldsmiths. Imo.

    Meg and Harry are growing more respected and beloved globally with every move. And their charities in the U.K. that kept them are still benefiting from that relationship.
    What a train wreck the BM is.

    • Nyro says:

      Losing steam is right. Even friggin’ Fox News had an article yesterday defending the Sussexes, said they were happy and successful, and calling the Cambridges jealous bores who need to get over it and move on. Fox News, folks. I was shocked.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        Nyro, if I had seen that on Faux News, I would have fainted!!

      • equality says:

        They also had some story about how the BM treat married-in women. Did somebody new come on board at Fox?

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        I think someone figured out that the negative press wasn’t going to fly here. When credible news sources mess up, the Sussex Squad are right there to let them know and have receipts. I would keep a close eye on Faux New, because I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t start with positive stories and slowly start shading bit by bit. Rupert Mudroch only thinks he’s smarter than everyone else.

      • deering24 says:

        Hmm, sounds like one of the less-right-wing-rabid Murdoch sons has started yanking leashes over there…😁

  14. SexyK says:

    1. Had Diana followed her initial plans to leave the UK for the US, she would be alive today. She also had offers for protections and deals to make money but stayed for her kids.

    2. So now William and the Queen had an issue with Harry marrying Meghan. I knew of William but now the Queen?

    3. It is VERY clear to me that everyone on salty island knows William is not king material. They need Harry to help him carry the weight but to also be used to do the work and be the clown when they need a distraction.

    4. William is very frustrated that he lost control of Harry and worse that Harry & Meghan are fighting back against his lies and slanderous behavior. I feel sorry for the UK that angry William is their future future.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      SexyK, I think Mean and Keen both wanted H&M out of the UK because of jealousy. I also think that they thought they could get them back whenever they wanted. That may be the “move them to Africa” article Tim Shipman wrote. What never occurred to him is that once H&M were gone they were gone. Oh, he would have been happy with just M going, but he wasn’t opposed to H going, too. No, what he’s enraged about is that H&M are able to support themselves AND do the type of charitable work that they each always wanted to do. And, they have respect globally. That was not part of Mean and Keen’s playbook. I include Keen, because I believe that she was just as much a part of the smearing ass Mean. If the brf wants to get out of this huge mess of their own creation, they need to get a plan together WITHOUT Harry and move forward. They are starting to look pathetic by continuing to go after the Sussex family. If this is just to hide the fact that the Cambridge marriage is over, then just stop. Don’t hide it. Believe it or not, people will get over it.

    • Tessa says:

      I think William was just allowed to do as he pleased and boss around his brother. The Queen allowed the Wales marriage though she was fully aware of the Camilla situation. She has a hands off attitude unless things really get out of control.

  15. Snuffles says:

    Diana never waged a war against the institution!? She practically shoved a grenade up it’s ass. Her words and deeds still reverberate DECADES later.

    As far as this quote goes:

    “ William is forever conscious of the fact Harry’s departure to the US to make his millions has left his family with the weight of the royal duty they had always planned to share. The bond he felt so deeply with Harry has been replaced by rancour over claims by the Sussexes that his family are racist and were uncaring about a suicidal Meghan.”

    Let me translate. “William is engorged with rage because he grew up with the expectation that Harry would forever be his work mule, his whipping boy and his human shield. And he’s 1000% convinced that if Meghan hadn’t come along and showed him another way to live his life, Harry would have stayed by his side and done the King job for him. Now he’s shit out of luck because he’s woefully unprepared and soon the UK and the entire Commonwealth will see it.”

    I hate to break it to you, Cain. Even if you get your wish and Meghan is out of the picture, you will never have Harry back in the position you want him in because he will NEVER abandon his children or subject them to the monarchy machine.

    • ➕💯, Snuffles. I loved the grenade image too! The 🐀Rota and William’s flying 🐒🐒s are really working hard to rewrite history. Wooten really sees Harry as a needy moon to William’s perpetual Sun, doesn’t he.

    • Truthiness says:

      Absolutely, Diana fire-bombed the institution and Will wants his work mule / whipping post back. And how dare Wooten have the unmitigated gall to try and speak for Diana, a woman who was chased to her death BY THE MEDIA. The media – of all people – cannot speak for her after her death! 100% Diana would be in love with her grandchildren, laughing and playing and pranking around and the rest we can only guess.

      More staff left during Diana’s reign let’s be honest. Plus W&K have had constant changes – is Meghan’s real “crime” knowing her worth? And knowing how to reach more people in need, to make a positive difference?

  16. Rapunzel says:

    Okay- wild theory here: we were talking yesterday about how much the Cambridge PR is projection, like saying Harry is Angry when it’s Wills. Could this be projection? Like, saying they’ll never heal with Meghan around, but really it’s Kate? Like, Harry/Meg are secretly super angry at the Meg made Kate cry fiction and that it was never corrected, and Harry refuses to deal with Wills if Kate’s there? Could Haz be really pissed at her and she’s standing between the brothers? I know everyone was like “Kate was a participant but not in charge of the smears” yesterday (when I suggested otherwise), but maybe Harry blames her anyway? That crying story could have greatly affected Meg’s suicidal ideation.

    I’ve no doubt Wills doesn’t care for Meg, but maybe he’s willing to put up with her to get Harry back. Perhaps Kate’s machinations are the real stumbling block? This would explain the constant focus by the Cambridges PR that “Meg DID made Kate cry, dangit!” We all thought it was weird they never let that go, maybe it’s a bigger piece of Harry’s anger than we think? We like to think Harry doesn’t care much about her, but maybe he does if she meangirled Meg…especially if it was more than we know and she was behind the color inquiries too (with Wills).

    If Haz wants Kate gone before he reconnects with Wills, that could explain Kate’s absence from the unveiling and Wills’ increasingly sour attitude towards her: she’s standing in the way of him getting his helper back….or at least that’s what he thinks.

    We’ve speculated before that maybe Kate lied about that crying story to Wills and maybe he found out. That could play in here as well.

    This is wild, as I said. But I think maybe even if Haz and Meg have no beef with Kate, that this article might still be projecting Wills’ wish that his wife wasn’t on the scene.

    Eta: this fits in too with that article just posted about Kate reaching out to Meg. Kate may be attempting damage control.

    • Topaz says:

      Rapunzel, reading all these rollercoaster stories it does seem it is all projection. Could it also be that the bullying investigation shows clearly it was not Meghan but Kate. Isn’t the word this “bloody woman” yelled by William easily attributed to his “lovely” wife? Could the whole breakdown be about the results of the supposedly investigation? We do know the RR is not truthful and love to stir, stir, stir.

    • Nyro says:

      I’m in the Kate the Instigator camp. Her lie about Meghan making her cry at the dress fitting changed everything. Her fake WW tears almost put Meghan in the grave.

      • Rapunzel says:

        I can’t see another reason for the sudden Kate freeze out except that she’s getting suddenly blamed for something. Whether she actually did anything or is just the scapegoat remains to be seen. But the bullying investigation could have definitely turned up something.

    • Kalana says:

      That’s an interesting theory that Kate may have lied somehow to William about the crying story. William was already primed to dislike Meghan and Kate egged him on.

      • Lady D says:

        @Topaz, After 20+ years of lying right to Kate’s face, William has no right whatsoever to be pissed that she lied to him. He doesn’t get to get even, he doesn’t get to give her shit, he doesn’t get to scream he can never trust her again. Wee Willie thinks the rules are just for others, but after 20 years of lies she learned to play the game.

      • LMR says:

        Wow. I think it fits. All along W was sold the false narrative of the crying story by his own wife.

        He only learned the truth along with the rest of the world on the Oprah interview. How shocking and humiliating and a blow to his own narrative.

        As much as he hates Meghan, he believes her on that point, realizing with slow motion horror that she has receipts.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Lady D, I don’t think William has lied to Kate’s face. She knew the deal was, he gets to cheat as much as he wants. That’s how it was for the first 10 years of the relationship, that’s how it has been for the 10 years since the wedding.

        It is only when the cheating goes public that Kate protests. William hunting with Jecca? Kate allows a pap to take pics of her taking PGTips to Mustique. And she gets 10 days kid-free in The Maldives. Get caught drunk partying with young blonds on a skiing holiday? Kate gets the third child William didn’t want. Trouble is now? William has 1.5 feet out the door, so Kate cannot extract anything from him re. Rose.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @LMR, William knew from the get go it wasn’t true. From the interview:

        Meghan: What was hard to get over was being blamed for something that not only I didn’t do but that happened to me. And the people who were part of our wedding going to our comms team and saying, ‘I know this didn’t happen.’ I don’t have to tell them what actually happened.

        Oprah: OK.

        Meghan: But I can at least go on the record and say she didn’t make her cry. And they were all told the same . . . 

        Oprah: So, all the time the stories were out that you had made Kate cry . . . you knew all along, and people around you knew that that wasn’t true?

        **Meghan: Everyone in the institution knew it wasn’t true.**

        Oprah: So, why didn’t somebody just say that?

        Meghan: That’s a good question.
        Willie is guilt as all H#ll in the smear campaign along with his wife, Knaupf, courtiers and rota cohorts.

    • Laura says:

      I like this take. How interesting. Thanks for sharing!!

    • Lizzie Bathory says:

      I’m not sure Kate is the only issue here, since Harry clearly has a lot of anger at his brother for his behavior, but I do think there is some projection going on here. I read the whole “Queen warning Harry about Meghan’s motives” as being about Kate. I don’t think the Queen likes to get involved with telling family members who not to marry (having had that blow up in her face before), but I don’t think she would have thought Kate was suitable as a future Queen Consort. I remember her asking what Kate did all day. By contrast, she seems to have taken to Meghan immediately.

    • Sorry, I disagree, Rapunzel. I think BOTH Cambridge’s hate Meghan and have been and continue to be deeply involved in trashing her. Other than their children, it may be the only other thing they are united on in their relationship.

      • Carmen-JamRock says:

        Exactly, @Lowcountry. Folks here are trivializing and ignoring the crux of the matter facing the British Royal F. I. R. M. which is this: there is a LEGAL PROCESS in train at the moment, initiated by the Sussexes against the BR-FIRM, in particular, KP and by extension, BP – as the seat of the Firm’s leadership.

        When parties have resorted to LEGAL ACTION they no longer communicate directly….if one of the parties wish to make overtures they must do so thru the lawyers.

        A cardinal rule, when lawyers become involved is that parties are advised NOT TO SPEAK DIRECTLY with the opposing party. So neither Harry nor Meghan is speaking directly to anyone in KP at the moment, which is where the heart of the legal problem lies.

        All these machinations playing themselves out via the various royal factions’ mouthpieces in the media, can easily be lumped in the basket of: “court jesters attempting to influence the court of public opinion.”

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Lowcountry Lady, I agree that it was both of the Lamebridges who were very active in the smear campaign. But, I also think that perhaps what the firm as discovered is that Kate is the bully in the palace. I don’t know if they would ever say one of the heirs is, so I’ll leave that alone. Kate end up the scapegoat, but it’ll be the truth.

        Carmen-JamRock, I was thinking that, too. Isn’t it interesting that they anyone at KP is suddenly communicating the M, when you know that M’s attorneys would have advised against it and if asked, would never allow it. Kate has really screwed up and she’s doing a survival float at this point.

    • The Recluse says:

      Yep to all of this. Interesting how Wooten ignores the whole Middleton propaganda operation that is all about promoting Keen at the expense even of her own husband.

  17. Joan says:

    If Meghan is out of the picture, Harry is not returning to his old life. If they divorced, I believe he would stay in CA to be near his children. If something worst happens, I believe his will still stay in CA with Doria.

  18. Lila says:

    Wootton is, once again, confirming what Harry’s said: “they’re not going to stop until she’s dead.”. Meghan is the mother of Harry’s children. Even if they were to divorce in the future, she would still be part of his life.

    And if they’re claiming Harry and Meghan were not going to be part of the streamlined monarchy, why all the comments about William having to “carry the weight”?

    • Tessa says:

      I don’t think they will divorce. They both stood up to the horrible media stories and social media comments by some. They want to be together, Harry talked about his “family of four.” I doubt this will be broken up.

  19. Over it says:

    Kinging is a one man job, it can’t be shared or they would both be first in line so they need to stop with that bullshit. And Dan is a creepy D—k. Meghan is minding her own business. If William and the rest of them weren’t bunch of F———ing racist, maybe Harry would have stayed. Maybe not. It’s not like he completely enjoyed the stupid royal shit to begin with

  20. Jessica says:

    Diana, like Harry, WAS at war with the institution, just not with The Queen herself, as Harry has also emphasised. Diana was only alive for a YEAR after her divorce, that’s why she was still at KP. She had wanted to move to a variety of different places, including Althorp (which her brother ultimately forbade) and the United States. She didn’t get a chance to forge a future for herself but she was actively looking at her options, which is how she ended up in the Fayed milieu.

    And is Dan saying The Queen warned Harry about Meghan? The same Queen her immediately brought her on an overnight 1 on 1 royal train trip and did a 1 on 1 event with her immediately after the wedding, thereby signalling her approval?

    Give me a break. History is being completely rewritten by these disgusting provincial racists who are chomping at the bit to destroy Harry’s marriage. At the very least, Diana would have empathised with Meghan. Wonder how she would have felt about. Carole “I’m more of a mother than Diana ever was” Middleton?

    • Nyro says:

      I knew that Diana hadn’t been able to fully leave but I had no idea she was still living at KPat the time of her death! I don’t know what I thought but I guess just assumed she had moved but remained in London. Wow. She had no chance.

      • Lizzie says:

        My understanding is Diana had money but not the kind to provide a lifetime of security. That is why she was living at Kensington and why she spent time with Dodi, he could well afford the security she needed on a vacation.

      • JanetDR says:

        It reminds me of Jackie O wanting the protection of a wealthy marriage and the (nonfinancial) security that can provide.

  21. BayTampaBay says:

    “she remained in residence at Kensington Palace almost entirely focussed on good deeds and how to make a difference in her new role, rather than making millions for herself.”

    This is a pure 100% falsehood. One of the reasons Diana received such a large divorcement is because the Royal Courtiers (and to some degree Charles) did not want her all over the world flogging herself to survive as Sarah Ferguson was forced to do. I have read in many places (in many old books-Tina Brown’s comes to mind) that Diana was to some degree perturbed that she would not to permitted to go out and earn money for herself.

    • notasugarhere says:

      The BRF was smarter with Diana’s divorce living situation and messed up completely with Fergie’s. They should have done a Crown Estate thing with Fergie, paid by the Queen privately, and put her in Garden House at Windsor. That’s where the Queen hid her cousin Margaret Rhodes for many years. They needed Fergie under control, housed, and with a small allowance to keep her from being the nightmare she’s been since the separation.

    • L4frimaire says:

      Of course the main difference is that Meghan and Harry are very much married, live together and own that mansion together, and they are both out earning a living. If anything, Harry is the more active breadwinner. This whole premise is just so out there and not based on reality. What exactly is Harry supposed to do for William that William can’t do for himself.

  22. Snuffles says:

    This is the difference between Harry and William.

    I believe Harry would love to reconcile with his BROTHER but not the institution. William wants Harry to reconcile with the INSTITUTION and be under his CONTROL.

    • Christa says:

      I agree. Harry will never do ITV though. I think he is more than happy to reconcile with his brother but he is unwilling to stop giving the RR the cold shoulder. He ghosted them and they are dead to him. His brother has to continue that awful relationship with the media or they would do the same to him. I think Wills is super mad because of all the work he has to do and to keep up with superstars he has had to give even more access to his family. Wills is mad at life and projecting it onto HM. He may rationalize it as being all her fault but what did they ever do to help her?

    • Excellent point, Snuffles.

  23. MissF says:

    Who’s listening to Dan Wootton? He’s overshadowed by Piers Morgan at the Daily Mail and his meltdowns on GBeebies are just Twitter fodder

    • L4frimaire says:

      Does anyone take his nonsense seriously. Another of Meghan’s trolls, Sarah Vine, is getting divorced and asking for “ privacy”, after constantly dragging Meghan and attacking her and Harry’s relationship. Just wait, Wooten will get his, especially since the leaks have dried up.

  24. Eurydice says:

    The Queen didn’t have to warn Harry about Meghan or persuade him of anything – if she didn’t want Harry to marry Meghan, she would have forbidden it.

    • Lizzie says:

      or she would have told Harry to ask again in another year. That’s more the queens style and what she pulled with Margaret.

      • Feeshalori says:

        And I would love to visualize Harry saying, nah, I’m outta here, we’re getting married now! If that actually happened, Meghan would have been spared the agony of being subjected to all the palace abuse, collusion and bullying during that period before they left. They would have been safe in the US before the isht hit the fan and the media unloaded on them.

      • lanne says:

        I think the media would have blamed Meghan for Harry leaving and the media campaign against her would have been exactly the same. The British media and the RF think they own Harry to frightening, toxic degree.

      • Feeshalori says:

        Yes, undoubtedly she’d have been blamed no matter what. But I’d like to think they wouldn’t have been enmeshed in that toxic palace environment to start, Meghan spared suicide ideation, and thousands of miles away to safety before the media campaign against them ramped up.

  25. Asking for a friend says:

    Meghan couldn’t be minding her business any harder, and they are still making it all about how she’s effing it up for everybody. My eyes are stuck in the back of my head from all the rolling.

    • BothSidesNow says:

      I know, it has become comical at the daily deluge of rewriting history and maintaining all of the faults of TOB and The Monarchy onto Meghan.

  26. Jan says:

    Complaints from a reporter that all the media in America are saying Princes Harry and William and it should be reverse, then someone tweet in from Australia that it was Harry first there also.
    The BM was looking for Harry to be sulky and anxious, instead it was Cain with his jaws clenched.
    Harry must have picked some pointers from Meghan’s bad bitch last royal appearances.

  27. Amy Bee says:

    Could it be that the Royal Family knows that William is not up to the job and Harry was necessary to ensure that his reign wouldn’t turn into a total disaster? That’s the only reason I can come up for this narrative that Harry was supposed to carry the burden of being King with William.

    • Lucy says:

      I think that’s what it is. There’s something very wrong begins the scenes where everyone knows William can’t do the king thing, for whatever reason. I don’t know if it’s the rage, or there’s something deeper than that going on, but they are acting like it’s an established fact.
      With all the projection, I think the Royal Foibles story that was floated promising to detail Harry’s supposed mental health issues (which are implied to be huge and borderline dangerous) is projection. I think RF is a buddy to some elderly Royal/royal adjacent folks, and probably close to courtiers. So I think that’s a courtier projection of whatever’s going on with Will.

  28. MsIam says:

    This is yet another lie. In the Africa interview, Harry talked back then about how he and William were on different paths in life. There was no talk of sharing the burden then. Plus William wanted to ship them off, how was Harry supposed to share anything then? This is all about Harry making a spectacular success of his new life in America. If Harry had flopped somehow? I guarantee the story would be “There’s no place for Harry in the royal family anymore” and none of this side by side b.s.

  29. Mich says:

    There is something seriously wrong with Dan Wootton.

  30. Esme says:

    Wotton is starting to sound like a creepy fangirl. The words “his body clenched” are straight out of fanfiction. I’ve a silly feeling he’d love to replace W’s duchess, wear big blue, have an actual catfight with Meghan, and probably cosplay Diana in his spare time.

  31. Theothermia says:

    Wootton has some repressed sh*t going on 😬

  32. lanne says:

    Dan Wooten is as bad as Piers Morgan. This is unprofessional and hateful. You are known by the company you keep, and these ratchets are supposed to be the public voice of the royals. I’d be furious if people like Wooten and Morgan were speaking for me in any public capacity. They are a disaster for the royal family.

  33. Gubbinal says:

    Have you ever had a narcissistic sibling? I have. Their inborn psyche presumes that all family members–older, younger, whatever–are there to serve. Even if you strip away all of the royal trappings, Harry has to distance himself from the narcissistic demands of his brother.

    Have you ever had a narcissistic parent? Kate does and while CarolE may be the prime Middleton narcissist, Kate is obediently carrying on with the narcissistic narrative. I think that CarolE made sure to keep Kate stunted and unable to grow. The girl’s natural instincts are to live out her mother’s dream. I think it’s time she recognizes that this is not what she really wants–a life of service to the often conflicting demands of CarolE and Bulliam.

  34. Ania says:

    I wonder – is just laziness reason for Wills not being up to the job? I sense it’s some kind of substance abuse or, ironically mental ilness like depression etc. That’s probably why they desperately need Harry to cover for Will when he’s „recovering” from time to time.

    I also have tin foil theory that Will the rage monster may be also physically abusive to Kate. Someone who is raging all the time and has no respect to others can push the boundaries and the public shrug would be my reaction if someone physically hurt me and then tried to touch me again. With that regard I feel for Kate. She is a b* on her own but her marriage seems more and more like a nightmare. I used to think it’s only separate lives and lack of love/cheating but I suspect there is unforfunately more. Poor kids.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Ania, I would normally agree with any woman placed in this position. However, let’s remember that Keen is not isolated from family or friends (assuming she has friends.) I’m not too sympathetic with Kate, because she could leave anytime she wants. The good Lord knows, she’s gone to Ma’s whenever she felt like it. So, she’s staying as a choice.

      The children are who I worry about. W&K should divorce so that these children are not part of the anger BOTH of their parents feel.

      • Ania says:

        SAUCY&SASSY I get your point. I just have so mixed feelings when it comes to Kate and I think they are not mutually excluding. She is a lazy, competitive meangirl who chose her life. But I also think she is the product of Carole’s upbringing and while she has a family I believe Carole is not the kind of mother you run to when your life is falling apart. I am sure she would not accept Kate’s decision to leave William to the point of closing the door in her face. Kate is screwed now. Of course she would still have cushy life but no more helicopter rides for her etc so she can choose but would loose a lot of what she’s used to. I’m also pretty sure she would be very alone in the process as for her family she is not more than a tool to get their feet in royal fold. In the end they invested a lot in that.

        I have parents who were very invested in my life, not in evil way of course but I know what it means to feel all eyes on you and not having a room to breathe or find yourself when somebody constantly tries to tell you what’s best. Kate mentally is probably still a teenager who started to pursue Will because she had no opportunity to really live her life and think who she is. Just tried to never put the foot wrong.

        Carole never tried to prepare Kate for independent life while probably telling her how much better she is from others. That can screw you up.

        And I make no excuse for her behavior I just try to understand where it comes from.

    • MipMip says:

      @anya- I have the same theory about Will being abusive. I mentioned it on another thread yesterday. I think Carole’s smothering narcissism definitely stunted Kate and pushed her right into William’s arms. From abuser to abuser.

  35. Marivic says:

    Ghastly and hateful Wooton.

  36. Abby says:

    He talks about Meghan like she’s so disposable.

    • Carmen-JamRock says:

      @Dylan……..Um….no. That artcle in huffnpuff is a total POS. A downright fairytaling of some harsh realities that the writer didnt even touch on. “Professional therapists weigh in”…yeah right. How do u offer professional advice on a situation you know nothing about?

      How can one try to explain the BRF without mentioning the infamous men-in-grey that Princess Diana so famously dragged out into the light for us all to see and whose existence the article completely fails to mention.

      One blatant example of the writer’s complete ignorance is him/her saying that Meghan sought to make a distinction between The Family and The Firm, but “the Firm is the senior royals.” LOL. As we all know, the Firm is made up of all the hires that run that organization, making sure that everything works exactly as it did 100 years ago….the men-in-grey…the courtiers….while the royals are merely puppets on a string who are told what to do, where to go and when; and what to say and how to behave.

  37. Jaded says:

    Their division is “insurmountable, at least while Meghan is on the scene”??? WTF?

    Meghan is not “on the scene” at all Wootton you insufferable prat. She’s in California, nursing her lovely new baby and not saying squat about anything other than her work. Let’s not forget for a moment that she and Harry have a team of crack lawyers who will come after you if you keep this up, and hopefully dump a sh*t-ton of receipts on you and all your other bottom-feeder RR friends whilst doing so. Furthermore, Harry doesn’t have “issues” with William, it’s the other way around.

  38. Vivian says:

    I am an avid social democrat, and to me, the best trends in the US are more opening to true equality and social solidarity, fundamental values espoused by Meghan and Harry. But these values are antithetical to any monarchy. Harry’s story is fascinating because everything he now advocates and campaigns for is opposed to the principle of royalty. I know that he and Meghan “tried to make it work” as royals, but it never could have worked.

  39. Athena says:

    Why do these “reporters” who around about the same age as William and Harry insist on calling them boys. As if they are not grown men about to inter their middle years.

    Harry probably knew what TOB was capable of, just didn’t think it would be directed towards him. With or without Meghan he’s done with William. I don’t understand this obsession with Harry or why it’s so imperative that Harry gets along with William.

    Why is William still so angry at Harry? William gets to be King, isn’t that enough?. Is he angry that he wouldn’t have a middle age Harry begging him for scraps. Or is it that William knows that his trapped but Harry get to define his own life.

  40. Feebee says:

    More accurate headline:
    British media will continue to be utter bastards at least as long as Meghan is still on the scene.

    When they say “share the duty” they meant the work, not the glory/rewards.

    • Jais says:

      Agree that it was both behind the smear campaign. William did a lot of nasty stuff and so did Kate. I did also wonder about the crying story though. As in I wondered if Kate also told William the same story that was shared with Tominey and he really believed Meghan made Kate cry. Now William was still doing all he was going to do regardless of that story, so I don’t think it makes a difference there. But it would be interesting if he literally learned the truth like the rest of the world during the Oprah interview. Could see that really enraging William bc it was humiliating for Kate and in turn him as her husband. Ultimately, I believe they worked together for a lot of the smear campaign but it would be interesting if she kept that from him. A betrayal of trust. Like baby, I thought we were smearing her together and you kept this from me. How can I ever trust you again? Obv this is some speculative fan fiction but it could’ve happened just as equally as William knowing the story was a lie.
      Yikes- this was a response to rapunzel and lowcountrylady from way further up. Not sure how it got here? Sigh, it’s been a week. Happy Friday celebitches!

  41. Tessa says:

    So the writer is hoping that Meghan leaves so the brothers can “get back together.” Seriously! This is so weird. William is the one causing the problems.

  42. Donna B. says:

    Dan Wooten was dragged all through twitter with this article. The dude is a prick. I believe some people were talking about reporting him too—indirect threat against Meghan. Don’t know if they did though.

    • Curious says:

      this wooton guy is scary, i got scared when i read, about harry will come back if Meghan is dead or divorce,and i think in my mind this guy just put Meghan on a hit list . he will prefer her dead.. this guy is hoping someone will take up what he said and harm Meghan. with so many sick minded people out there who would like nothing more than to have Meghan killed so Harry will return home.hope Meghan is extra careful,never know when some sick fools try to harm Meghan and her children .

  43. Elizabeth says:

    Honestly, I think he was typing with one hand and jacking off with the other. Sooooo creepy.

  44. Likeyoucare says:

    Dan wooten is unhinged, did he has conversation with willie everytime he wants to write stories for DM?

    Because he seems to be an extension for willie butt hole.. ops excuse me, i meant willie mouth.

  45. Kincaid says:

    Purely COMMERCIAL: GBNews was counting on Meghan haters to boost their viewers. As of now they can’t even get more than 50 000 per show.

    He is stirring the pot to get more viewers. He wants to be the P Morgan of GBN

  46. Noor says:

    Oh dear, another terribly mawkish article from Dan Wootton.

    Poor Middle Englanders , surely you deserve better than being led by the likes of Dan Wootton.

  47. Noor says:

    It is a constitutional monarchy. There is no real accountability or real job responsibility. It is a gilded life funded by taxpayers.

    Why should Harry be asked to be the wingman to William? Surely the burden of cutting ribbons and launching events is not too much to ask William and Kate to bear in return for a privileged royal life where even the PM has to bow to William.

  48. Curious says:

    i was looking at videos of Harry from yrs ago,before he ever knew Meghan. time and time again Harry did not like his life in the uk. Harry did everything he could to stay away from the monarchy. he was forced by the queen to show up for events. if the queen had seen all his videos ,why will she put him in that position,knowing he will have to obey her.Harry couldn’t tell the queen he didn’t want that role. anyways William have clearly declared he don’t need his brother.he tainted harry and his wife and child to kick him out. so now Harry left. .why is this still an issue? now ,William speaking through his friend Dan is wishing Meghan dead, or divorce . why do they think its their right to suggest Harry/Meghan get a divorce, Meghan is a healthy woman,the only way she will be dead at this age is if someone murder her.

  49. Pamuk says:

    Wooton seems to have issue with women in general, maybe his momma wasn’t kind. But he’s a woman hating queen to the core.

  50. Lizzie says:

    Recipe to forge an unbreakable bond I a newlywed couple; in-laws wage a relentless smear campaign against daughter in law. Harry will never forgive and forget. He knows how to deal with them in a public setting but there will never be closeness again. Despite the backstabbing rf best efforts Harry and Meghan are more popular than ever. They bring star power to an event and everyone knows it. No one shows up to see the dullards of Cambridge, even the little kids they drag out don’t know who they are.

  51. badmuthagoose says:

    I’m 100% convinced if Diana were still alive, things would be very different.

  52. Merricat says:

    Does Dan Wootton understand that he’s making William sound weak, at best, and incapable at worst–neither of which bodes well for the prospects of the monarchy?
    Is it kingly to need a fall guy? Is it kingly to smear his brother’s wife, even after she was pregnant and suicidal? Is it kingly to avoid accountability?
    This is an opportunity for William to grow, if he can recognize it. What happens in the next year or so will be interesting.

  53. Krystina says:

    Wooten wants to be the Cambridge version of Omid Scobie.