Prince Harry & William were ‘dignified’ but Harry only stayed for a ‘polite drink’

Diana's 60th birthday

As I’m writing this, Omid Scobie has not confirmed anything about Prince Harry’s whereabouts. I wasn’t expecting a tick-tock of Harry’s movements, but I thought maybe Harry would confirm when he left Dusty Saltine Isle, or confirm when he reached LAX or something. I wonder if Harry even left the UK yesterday? We still don’t know. We do know that he left the statue unveiling “event” after about ninety minutes and the Daily Mail claimed, in their extensive coverage, that there was no “heart to heart” between Harry and William. Some highlights from their coverage:

Dignified: There were no speeches and precious little time for a glass of bubbly afterwards. And there was certainly no heart to heart. But Princes William and Harry did manage to put their bitter personal animosity to one side for just over an hour to honour their mother, Diana, Princess of Wales. The unveiling of the highly anticipated statue in her memory in the Sunken Garden at Kensington Palace, her former London home, was, according to one of those present, ‘very moving and dignified’.

The statue is based on Diana’s 1993 Christmas card: The statue’s design was top secret and appears to be inspired by Diana’s official 1993 Christmas card – her first sent without Prince Charles – where she wears the same open ribbed shirt, skirt and belt as she smiles lovingly at her two sons. But rather than depict her with her boys as she appeared in the card, she is posed with three children – two of whom are not wearing shoes. One of the boys in the statue appears to have short afro-style hair. The palace said ‘it represents the universality and generational impact of The Princess’ work.’

Harry’s entrance: At 1.32pm – just 28 minutes before the ceremony was due to start – Harry was waved through the gates in a chauffeur-driven car. By the time he parked and walked through the cobbled palace courtyard towards the Sunken Garden, which is in the public area of the palace (as opposed to the private apartments where William and Kate live – as Harry and Meghan once did), he would have barely spent ten minutes with his elder brother. In fact, sources said he was greeted not by William but by James Holt, a former press officer at Kensington Palace who has since defected to the Sussexes and now heads up their Archewell Foundation.

Harry was in a great mood: Harry looked to be the more comfortable of the brothers and giggled at one point. He was seen yelling cross the garden with his hands cupped around his mouth and laughed uproariously as he larked around – but William appeared far more serious throughout the short ceremony after 18 months of barely talking to his younger sibling since he emigrated. Harry clapped his hands when he reached sculptor Ian Rank-Broadley and glanced over at the statue, which – ironically, given the Duchess of Cambridge’s notable absence yesterday – was flanked by two planters blooming with white ‘William and Catherine’ roses.

A polite drink: Champagne was laid on for the party on the outside terrace of the Kensington Palace Pavilion. It is thought Harry stayed for a polite drink after the event ended at 2.45pm – but by 3.05pm he was driven out of the palace gates, relief on his face. It is not known if he was heading back to Frogmore Cottage, where he may be meeting his grandmother the Queen who has just returned to Windsor for the annual horse show after a tour of Scotland. Or he could have been heading to Heathrow to jet back to LA to be with Meghan, Archie and Lilibet.

[From The Daily Mail]

From the photos, it looked like Harry was very happy to see his Spencer relations, and both brothers greeted their aunts with cheek-kisses and warmth. I actually understand William and Harry’s desire to keep this within the Spencer family and to have no one else from the Windsor clan there. While much was made of the fact that Charles and the Queen were not in attendance, my guess is that Liz and Chuck were never even invited. Same for Kate – her presence there would have been such a huge distraction. Anyway, I’m glad Harry got some time with his Spencer relations and I’m very glad he and William didn’t get into a fist-fight. I’ll wait patiently for Harry’s version of events, as told to Omid!

Diana's 60th birthday

Diana's 60th birthday

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  1. DellT says:

    William was dismissive and uncommunicative with Harry. William must be a terribly un-fun person to be around. He seems to have ZERO joie de vivre; its like hes made of maple or some other wood. There were several instances where one could see Harry trying to engage, and William ignoring him. Clearly, William is at the root of the discord. Its clear Harry loves William, whereas William’s love is conditional. In his mind hes like “youve outshone me, youve got a happy marriage, youre not my fall guy anymore, so I am going to punish you by withholding brotherly love and affection.” William really believes all the Monarchy sh*t and is over-the-top serious with it, not realizing, modern times are passing him by. Meanwhile, Harry gets to go back to sunny California, to his lovely wife and children. Living well is the best revenge. William lost and will probably always be the perennial loser.

    • Snuffles says:

      That’s the vibe I got. Incredibly strained politeness. Not picking up on any of Harry’s cues to engage with him. Arms crossed, furrowed brow. Harry just rolling with it. The Spencers did seem thrilled to see Harry though.

      • DellT says:

        Yes. The Spencers gave William a perfunctory “hello” and quickly moved on. Conversely they were clearly thrilled to see Harry, recognizing that the vestiges of Diana’s spirit rest in Harry, not William.

      • Cecilia says:

        And yet william looked more relaxed with harry than he did on the Scotland tour with his wife.

      • PrincessK says:

        Yes, l got a sense that William has strained relations with the Spencer’s and there was an awkward moment when William moved away and then looked back at Harry having a very warm chat with his aunty and uncles and he looked left out. The Spencer’s are clearly Team Harry! 😀

    • Tour malinn says:

      William’s passive agressive rejection of Harry never pays off. He rejects him when togethet while (meta)communicating that he actually believes that Harry is the one who should take the first move will just drive Harry further away. To the point where Harry will be alienated for ever a d TOB will be just there alone with his rage. I’ve seen it in family more than I wanted

    • Millennial says:

      My theory is William is the one who make comments about Archie’s skin color and will never forgive Harry for sharing the story of his racism publicly, even if he wasn’t named. So, I think that’s why we are getting stories about their “close, trusting” relationship will never be the same again, and William is afraid to talk openly to Harry, because William expected Harry not to share his racism. Never mind that that they on Harry all the time.

      • DellT says:

        I think its more the case that Harry is no longer the quirky footstool on which the Royal Family can stand. With him gone, they are all too boring and serious now. Name one other person in the Royal Family that is actually fun, or perceived as being fun: NO ONE!

      • notasugarhere says:

        There was more than one person who made those comments. I’d say both William and Kate.

    • UnionSnack says:

      There was a video in twitter, where William and Harry both were talking to people (something about tennis I guess?). So while Harry was easily talking and joking with a bunch of people, William seriously tried to explain something to one poor guy (that guy’s face…………………). So yeah, William believes he is SPECIAL and every word of him is SPECIAL too.

    • Chica says:

      The brothers are cut from different cloths. And Harry has always been the more socially interesting of the two, so seeing Harry get on and vibe so pleasantly with everyone probably makes Raging Bill feel even more inferior in group settings when he so desperately wants to be considered the “better” of the two bothers.

      However, I also respect William’s desire to not be fake. Why tf would I be smiling and giggling w/ you when we have beef? That irks me about Harry. Why is cordial not enough? I don’t need to be extra like we’re friends and on good terms when we are not; it’s inauthentic. They are not the brothers they were before he married Meghan and they can’t ever be the same brothers they once were— not after the responsibility William bears w/how Meghan (pregnant/post-partum or otherwise) was treated with his tacit approval & contributions—when she’s never received and apology and TO THIS DAY, continues to be smeared by William. It’s not a good look on Harry (IMO).

      I expected H to interact as he did with his Spencer fam and the statue ppl, but his constant need to try and play around w/William was annoying and feels…wrong? Any wife that his been in Meghan’s position would typically feel some type of way that her husband is trying to be chummy w/his brother that has been an aggressive bully set on destroying her and her marriage. It’s like who’s side are you on and why so pressed to sell a narrative between you that will be used to further abuse to your wife?

      Honestly, while it is none of my business how they interact or what the ins and outs of the marriage are, if I were Meghan, I would feel some type of way my husband was being overly friendly w:his shit brother who openly disrespects me with his media bros and has been the cause of my having to suffer multilayered and faceted indignities.

      And after the first time William rejected my attempts at engaging m, why do I have a need to continue to try and engage? Wtf is Harry on about exactly? It’s weak bc why is there a need to be where you are not wanted? Why is there a need to engage w/ppl who don’t respect you? Family or not is it wrong to want to have some dignity?

      Clearly Harry doesn’t leave the event looking worse in the eyes of the casual public. Of the two, had the positive upbeat energy and William was the poor vibes. However, for this Sussex supporter, Harry’s thirst where William is concerned, especially for as long as Meghan continues to be smeared, abused, targeted, at William’s approved behest, with no apology will always rub me the wrong way.

      • DellT says:

        Drivel. If anything, Harry was coping, and he came out of this the winner, which is why the British media has all but abandoned the story. Im sure he and Meghan discussed his approach. They’ve probably been non-stop facetiming, so I doubt she was surprised by his demeanor at the event. The British media are constantly trying to paint Harry as miserable in his marriage, and longing to be back in London. Harry has shown he is fine. If anything, Harry’s jovial nature revealed what a petulant person William appears to be. Harry’s laughter and smiles were the perfect backdrop to show William as a grumpy, inspid, petulant jerk. Lets not forget, Harry has nothing to apologize for. It is the Royal family who attacked him and Meghan. The way the British media has reverted all blame to Harry and Meghan is silly jedi mind tricks. William has a poor image among the youth. The ppl who adore him and the Monarchy are dying out. Harry and Meghan are the future and there is NOTHING the British media or the Royal family can do about it.

      • equality says:

        Joking and being friendly may be Harry’s coping mechanisms for the stress of the situation to diffuse his own tension. I’m sure Meghan understands and accepts his personality.

      • Chica says:

        And just so that we are clear, I am super proud for how Harry just beamed and appeared to have a good time. He was after all, having a good one. My only issue is the seemingly constant need to pretend that engaging with someone who clearly has an agenda against your happiness, against your wife, and who in real time comported himself as someone who does not want to engage w/ your attempts at affection and mirth (bc you are NOT on good terms) is weird.

        Harry is not a miserable person. His happiness isn’t the issue. The question is the continued need to try an engage with the miserable brother who CLEARLY EXPRESSED he has no interest in being engaged that way.

        Everyone here has been bothered by someone who’s tried to engage with them when they’re not in the mood. William is clearly not in the mood to engage Harry as if they’re on good terms. coping mechanism or not withstanding…ignoring William after being rejected is also respecting the boundary William has made clear.

        Giving William the space he so desperately desires while being your jovial self and engaging those who wants your energy seems a perfectly suitable strategy as well.

      • notasugarhere says:

        So. Much. Projection.

        I see no ‘thirst’ from Harry to get his brother’s attention. He knows his brother is a sh!t human. He also knows he won’t let William stop him from participating in this event.

        Harry is a gentleman, and he treats everyone around him well. That’s why Kate is so obsessed with Harry, because she doesn’t see he treats everyone the same. Decently, politely, and not giving any hints as to how little respect he has for them at heart. Harry pities his brother, dislikes if not hates him at times, but he isn’t going to show that in public and give the tabloids what they want.

      • Mel says:

        Perhaps he behaved this way because he no longer feels the burden of “The Firm”, he likes “soft” events to be soft so people should be at ease and relaxed, he also knows that he’s going back home soon and life is too short to act like you have a stick in your nether regions at all times. I think Meghan is a much bigger person who just wants her husband to be happy. She is capable of fighting her own battles and doesn’t need her husband to publicly act a fool for her.

      • Petra says:

        @Chica, thanks for providing the laugh today. Best fan fiction read in a long time. We don’t need the rotas if you as a Sussex fan came up with this on your own (the rotes get paid big bucks to analyst like this.) I pissed myself laughing in public.

      • True says:

        What was he supposed to do? Treat him
        differently than the other Spencer’s and have that be the story?

      • Jaded says:

        @Chica – Harry showed what it is to be mature. He’s at a place in his life where he’s confident, happy, and relieved that he can now deal with his spiteful, underhanded family on his own terms. He’s allowed to shine.

      • Marivic says:

        Harry was happy, relaxed and respectful to everyone- even to William. It was William who looked upset and cranky. Did you see how he just threw the cord toward Harry after the unveiling? Harry didn’t wait for an assistant to take and gather the drapes. As soon as William threw him the loop he graciously gathered, fixed and folded the drapes before handing it to the other person. Harry was the bigger and mature person. On the other hand, it showed the world that William has no manners and wasn’t at all kind. If he could treat his brother rudely in public, what more the less fortunate ones? He’s disgusting and abusively entitled. No wonder Harry left him.

      • swirlmamad says:

        Maybe he truly feels light and free when he thinks about his life now, and it’s not “an act” or some attempt to suck up to William. This is who Harry is, and who he always has been. He’s not going to show up with a murderous look that could kill for his brother. He’s come a LONG way from the Commonwealth service, when he and Meghan had been put through the wringer so much and for so long that it wasn’t possible for him to keep a game face on anymore in that moment. I didn’t see any “thirst” or attempts to pull his brother into some kumbaya moment. I simply saw someone who was calm, secure in himself and his life, who can easily portray the cordiality he’s known for. Plus, as True mentioned if he let his face show his true feelings for one second the tabs would’ve ran with with it with their body language “expert” crap. Nah. I think Harry played it just right.

      • goofpuff says:

        Because that’s how Harry’s personality is. He treats everyone the same. He’s trying to be the host at an event where the other host is a wet blanket and trying to not make people uncomfortable.

        I’m that way. You could be my worst enemy but in a public setting, I’m not going to act like a 5 year old nor am I going to change my personality because of you. (I’m naturally bubbly, cheerful, and laughing). I’m actually happy that Harry is just living his life despite Wills and not letting Wills get to him.

        You may be that way, but not everyone is. And we don’t really know the truth of what is happening in that family. We can’t trust the royal rota at all.

      • Eurydice says:

        @Chica – I don’t get your point about Harry having a constant need to seem cheerful around his brother. The last time they saw each other was at Philip’s funeral and I didn’t see any cheerful happiness there. And before that they hadn’t seen each other for over a year. So when was this constant need happening?

      • Christine says:

        I think Harry, unlike the actual heir to the throne, ironically, is always aware that when he shows up to do something official, it is a day the attendees are going to be talking about for the rest of their lives. The people who show up to meet the royals really want to be touched by some sort of magic, and I think Harry, like Diana, recognizes that fact. I suspect he would be jovial even if he had been book-ended all day long by William and Kate blowing spitballs at him.

    • Mrs.Krabapple says:

      I don’t know. I started re-thinking this whole thing yesterday. The only reason we think there is a huge rift between William and Harry are the tabloid leaks. But who benefits from that? The stories of William being dour and angry are not flattering to him. Plus, who took the brunt of criticism during the Oprah interview? Charles. And who benefits from the public perception of a rift that needs to be healed? Kate.

      So either Charles is fine making it appear William and his uncontrollable rage is the reason the Sussexes won’t return to England, and/or Kate is exaggerating the rift so that (1) she can take credit as the Great Peacemaker if it’s ever revealed the brothers don’t hate each other, or (2) she makes herself indispensable to fill the public relations void left by their absence.

      I think the Sussexes leaving did upset William because he may be asked to work more, or he cannot ditch Kate at this time, or some other reason. But the “huge rift” caused by the Oprah interview doesn’t make sense when most of that was directed at Charles. I smell a rat. (Btw, I am not fan of William by any stretch. But the way these tabloid stories are written, William comes off very badly, which makes me think someone else in that family has a hidden agenda).

      • notasugarhere says:

        Charles isn’t behind William telling Harry to back off with the biracial actress. Charles isn’t behind William leaking to Wooten about how much he hates Meghan. Charles isn’t behind William allowing his staff SOs to be paid off by Wooten to reveal Harry and Meghan’s location in Canada. Charles isn’t behind Jason, Wooten’s uni buddy, falsely accusing Meghan of bullying staff. Charles isn’t behind William trying to steal the Hubb charity money. Charles isn’t behind the nearly five year anti-Meghan campaign by the Middleton clan. Charles isn’t behind Kate lies and her WW tears regarding the crying incident. Charles isn’t behind Kate openly being a bitch to Meghan on repeat public occasions.

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        @notasugarhere — Someone is leaking (or lying) to the press about all of that, but why would it be William? It makes him look horrible. If not Charles, then who? I’m not saying William is not a horrible person, but he still wouldn’t want the public to know that. So it doesn’t make sense that any of the leaks or lies came from him. It would have to come from someone William could not control.

      • notasugarhere says:

        ‘Someone is leaking (or lying) to the press about all of that, ‘

        Are you claiming Meghan was lying about the crying incident? Are you claiming Harry and Meghan are lying about the racism? Are you claiming the repeated Middleton interviews bashing Meghan didn’t happen? Because it sure reads like you’re convinced all of those things I listed aren’t true.

        It absolutely makes sense that the leaks came from him, and that he wants it known it came from him. He’s been trying to insert himself in things for several years now. Claiming he was the one who demanded Andrew be fired. Claiming he was the one who wanted Harry and Meghan removed as working royals because he felt they were harming The Brand. Openly colluding with Wootten and having Wootten publish what William wants out there. The article the other day about William being furious at Meghan for how she treated ‘his’ staff. Wootten being close buddies with Jason Knauf, the KP staffer who actively briefed against Meghan and made false claims about her bullying staff. Not a CH staff, a KP staffer.

        William thinks he is a PR genius. He thinks he’s pulling the strings by getting his story out there, being The Man, directing the narrative. He thinks it makes him look strong, in control, The Best Brother. He’s entirely too selfish and stupid to see how bad it all makes him look. But it all comes from him regardless.

      • Shawna says:

        “Why would it be William?” – because William has no idea what a good look is. He just assumes people will accept whatever tantrum-based perspective he has.

      • Nic919 says:

        William is behind the fly be situation which turned into a mess because they had to send to extra plane. We are applying normal logic to someone who has been told since birth that they are literally superior to everyone else and few people ever tell him the truth or that some of his ideas suck. So of course we are surprised that he thinks leaking to the media that he think Harry is horrible for leaving the fold is a good look along with the bullying “claims” and other nonsense.

      • Demi says:

        Looking at who’s benefitting from the smear is a logical way of seeing things..
        My guess is Meghan ruffled some feathers during her time in the firm what stood out to me when Harry said in the documentary that “Meghan was really shocked when she saw what is behind the curtain”..
        Meghan knows something that is threatening to the firm.. Could it be mishandling of charity funds? could it be more Pedo scandals? corruption? or the queen or someone is seriously ill & the firm is hiding it idk..
        The Middletons benefitted because it gave them the opportunity for good press around the time of the alleged affair, making Kate indispensable.. Not to mention they are on the verge of being bankrupt.. also the Wessex are jumping on the wagon wanting to have more access ect..

    • herhighness says:

      I too was troubled and saddened by Williams body language. Did not look his way when Harry spoke, kept an odd distance, no emotion at ALL. Diana would be frowning. The brothers need to get along, but I get it, Racism is no joke and Harry actually loves her and is procreating with a woman whose mom has locks. welp, it had to happen sometime! DAYM it really sends us black women a message LOUD AND CLEAR.

      • Margaret says:

        Why the concern about William he is a a$$hole, no two ways about it, and so is Charles. I said a while back, when the Sussexes left, watch the fighting between tob, and daddy, well the back stabbing is on. I choose to sit back and watch, with my coffee and popcorn.

  2. Amy Bee says:

    There’s nothing more to tell really and I think Harry’s gone back to the US. I think Harry was truly happy to be there and to pay tribute to his mother.

    • taris says:

      yeah, i don’t think there’s too much going on here actually. but, damn, the daily mail sure is milking what it can of harry before he leaves them high and dry again.

      • Margaret says:

        The problem is harry was happy and smiling, he was supposed to be contrite, head hanging down and begging to stay, apologizing for telling his truth.
        Well harry came, took care of his business, and was more animated the closer he got to going home to HIS FAMILY. HE WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPY. He should have looked like the guilty tob. Good on harry.

    • Sofia says:

      I agree. There is/was nothing more to say/do.

    • BabsORIG says:

      I just love how the Sussexes continue to starve and dehydrate the BM and the rota🐀s. Like there’s absofuckinglutely NOTHING to spin, zilch, nada, zero, nothing to see here guys, move on LOL😁😆. This was the coulda had a bad bitch tour 2, only this time, Meg was replaced with Harry, I love the Sussexes. And the Fail can’t bring themselves to say Meghan, Archie and Lili are Harry’s family, LOL. Notice how when they mention the Windsors they always call the Harry’s family but “he went back to California to be with Meghan, Archie and Lilibet”? Yeah, friggin’ racists all of them.

      • Midnight@theOasis says:

        Yes. I agree. This was Harry’s version of the “coulda had a bad bitch tour”😂

      • Justjj says:

        All Harry has to do is to show up and be his lovely, grounded, caring, self to bring the ‘coulda had a bad bitch’ vibes. He definitely succeeded in that this round, I would say. He seems like such a genuinely warm person.

    • The Truth Piper says:

      William and Harry rose to the occasion and made the event about their mother.

      I wish people wouldn’t always think the worst of things and find fault in everyone.

      Diana raised the boys and instilled human decency and goodness in them.

      • notasugarhere says:

        ‘human decency and goodness’ in TOB whose racism and jealousy drove Harry’s beloved wife to suicidal ideation?

        Harry got the best of both parents, William got the worst of both. That remains clear.

      • Jaded says:

        I wouldn’t consider William as having one iota of human decency and goodness. Look what he did to his own brother and sister-in-law. He’s a selfish narcissist who, in all likelihood, will be a big part of what eventually destroys the BRF.

      • Miranda says:

        @notasugarhere – I apologize for being out of the loop on this one, but what does TOB stand for?

      • notasugarhere says:

        The Other Brother. I don’t remember which article that was in, where Harry was glowingly described and William was referred to as The Other Brother.

      • lanne says:

        The other brother was on the cover of the Sunday Times story, with William looking ridiculous in military cosplay. I quipped that he should be known as Will-di Amin and another poster called him Will Jung Un or Kim Jong Will. But it was a truly trollish image of William, with the sole headline, TOB. That must have caused some incandescent rage for sure. It showed him as pompous, self-important, and utterly secondary.

      • Nivz says:

        Welcome, truth piper. Don’t know if you’re new round these parts? Let’s assume you are. I used to be a naive both-sider before months and months of watching the Royals’ actions made me realize that’s not possible. Willnot and Cannot, and the entire royal machinery are garbage. We won’t try to convince you. Just keep your eyes open, and you’ll eventually understand.

  3. Amy T says:

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that this is one really valuable thing that therapy can do – give you the tools to navigate a delicate situation in a way that leaves you feeling good about yourself and your behavior. (I speak from experience.)

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    • taris says:

      i have to say harry *was* more than just professional yesterday (as i expected him to be), he was actually kinda beaming.
      i’m proud of him for rising above the vitriol and conducting himself with grace during what is certainly a very emotionally loaded week for him. 🙏🏼

      • Capepopsie says:

        @taris me too!

      • My thoughts exactly, Taris. The Other Brother just lets that unflinching ego of his run rampant in everything he does. I said yesterday, I did not see any changed response in William toward Harry. He barely made eye contact or spoke to him and his body language was rigid, with those pursed lips of his. The only thing William seemed to relax were his usually clinched fists I’m glad Harry stepped up and ignored William’s BS and enjoyed himself and honored his mother. Therapeutic results at their finest! All the hard work Harry has been doing on himself certainly seems to be paying off for him yesterday. How sad for William’s flying monkeys and the 🐀Rota that Harry shut down all their scripts: I surely didn’t see the Harry they like to imagine —- wimpy, castrated, lonely, and repentant. I saw a strong man who knows who he is and is living his best life. 😎 loved it!

    • Ginger says:

      Harry did say in the docu series that going to therapy gave him the tools to handle any situation and I believe it. Harry seems to be in a wonderful place. He was beaming. I don’t think the press knew what to do with Harry and how he was yesterday. He blew their pre written narratives out of the water.

      • Moxylady says:

        Does anyone else have therapist envy? Like I want to work with his therapist. Because they have helped him so much! I need some of that shit! Not because they are Harry’s. But because they are obviously incredibly good at their work. Sigh.

      • Eurydice says:

        Therapy can be very helpful. Also helpful is knowing there’s a car waiting outside to take you to the airport.

      • Hell Nah! says:

        @Eurydice: Haha – yes!

    • paranormalgirl says:

      Absolutely. Therapy can give you the navigational tools needed to deal with toxic people in a manner that doesn’t harm you.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I enjoy these little glimpses you give of your profession and experience. One of my closest friends is a counsellor, and I hear most of your comments in her voice in my head.

    • Mina_Esq says:

      AMY T – Yes! You just know that Harry’s therapist prepared him for this. He was probably told to focus on celebrating the memory of his mother. He probably FaceTimed with M and the kids right before he got to the gardens. Almost makes me feel sorry for William, if he has been denied access to basic coping tools that therapy can provide.

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  4. Cecilia says:

    I mean… did anybody actually expect the brothers to get into a fistfight? I sure didn’t. It was good to see harry so happy tho. And i love that he’s close to his mom side of the family. They were clearly delighted to see him. Especially sarah.

    • TeamMeg says:

      Really sweet to see. It seemed like a nice Spencer family event and reunion.

    • betsyh says:

      The Spencers must have watched how the royal family treated Meghan and thought here we go again. I am sure they are very sympathetic to Harry and Meghan.

      • PrincessK says:

        Yes, but unfortunately they cannot be seen to be openly taking sides but clearly from the body language they are Team Harry and they know what is going on. However l did notice that banter was warmest between Harry and Aunty Sarah rather than Aunty Jane, you need to Google her husband Fellowes and their difficult relationship with Diana.

    • BothSidesNow says:

      Also, I want to point out that Harry has always made an attempt at keeping his aunts/uncles of the Spencer family involved/invited to his ground breaking moments. They were present at his wedding to Meghan and the christening to Archie. Whereas TOB completely ignored them and he does not engage or keep them close to his family.
      It’s apparent that the Spencer women adore Harry in that he is cut from the same cloth as their sister and is very welcoming to all of them. Harry adores his aunts/uncle of the Spencer tribe and has always maintained relationship with them. I think it shows a great deal of respect on Harry’s part to keep them within his fold.

  5. Jay says:

    I’m glad nobody from William’s camp is pushing the “brothers grabbing a pint and reminiscing about the good old days” story. I believe they know Harry doesn’t mind correcting the record if the talks were “unproductive”, so they are being cautious.

    Although I think both men appeared surprisingly relaxed yesterday (maybe because no rota?), they were certainly not chummy. The “William and Kate” roses are a nice touch, but I have to admit I’m kind of surprised we didn’t get a handpicked bouquet “from Catherine’s own garden” or a cheeky jar of chutney left on the plinth, just as a reminder!

    • Scorpion says:

      I was hoping for a jar of her own honey to sweeten the occasion and a copy of Hold Still for the guests to take home 🙄

      • CourtneyB says:

        Eh. Hold Still wouldn’t be so bad. It’s not really her book. It’s the museum’s and a good cause. It’s a shame it’s so linked to her.

      • Sofia says:

        Yeah I think Hold Still was a great project. It was the idea of her patronage but promoting it and supporting it is her job as patron. Not everyone can create a project and that’s okay (as long as you don’t act like you can which the media does with Kate).

    • Amy Too says:

      Where are these William and Kate roses? They said the Diana statue was flanked by two planters full of these William and Kate roses, but I see what we in American call geraniums. White geraniums. I don’t see these roses anywhere.

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        I was going to post the same thing. It’s so bizarre that they made a point of saying “William and Catherine” roses flanked the statue, when there clearly are no roses present. Or maybe the roses died, like their marriage is doing?

      • Nivz says:

        “William and Catherine” ROSES?
        Shade much?

      • Lorelei says:

        @AmyToo I’m so glad I’m not the only one who was thinking that…I felt like I was going insane, like “What roses?!”

      • Feeshalori says:

        Yes, l thought l was seeing another unveiling.

  6. Becks1 says:

    So he was there for 90 minutes TOTAL, not 90 minutes after the ceremony. LOL. He really was just there for his mother and that was IT.

  7. Astrid says:

    I’m glad that the ceremony was respectful and uneventful for Harry and William.

    On a superficial note, I”m not really feeling the statue.

  8. Jan says:

    The aunts were excited to see Harry and he to see them, the uncle was greeted with a handshake.
    The picture on the Times front page, statue and a smiling Harry.
    I hope Harry goes into some sort of quarantine when he gets home,

  9. TeamMeg says:

    I wish I liked the statue more. The patina is awful, especially on Di’s face. I like her outfit. (I know I’m in the minority here, but I find it very Diana!) But I don’t think her face is quite right. (Someone on Twitter said Theresa May.) And those children are…strange. Why do all three appear shabbily dressed? Why is only one wearing shoes? Why does the girl look so old? Why short pants on the boys? All those bare legs at the bottom… I just don’t get it. Hoping it will grow on me.

    • Hyrule Castle says:

      Because not all children have adequate clothing, shoes, access to clean water, or food.

      But you already knew that. Your privilege is showing, you might want to tuck that back in.

      Diana loved them all, not just the ones who weren’t “shabbily dressed”.

      • Betsy says:

        Her privilege isn’t showing; there are arguments to be had about depicting people who have less as less and in art, “as less” has been depicted with material deficits.

      • TeamMeg says:

        Thanks, @Betsy. Maybe “shabby” is inexact. Casual works, too. But then add in that two are shoeless, and the boys are wearing shorts (or torn pants?)—is it supposed to look summery? Because it doesn’t. Are they supposed to represent the disadvantaged children of the world? Then why not say so. Officially, they are supposed to represent “the universality and generational impact” of Diana’s work. Not sure if that goal was achieved, but it’s a worthy one. Someone below noted Diana’s work to alleviate poverty—that would explain some of these artistic choices.

    • Carty says:

      Same here. Her face looks like she has 5 o’clock shadow beard on one side. It didn’t capture her ‘glow’ but I suppose that’s hard to pull off with statues.

    • Ainsley7 says:

      The statue is kind of awful. The color is bad, it’s weirdly somber, and I don’t think it looks like Diana. It actually looks like a young Sophie when she used to copy Diana’s look. It drove Diana nuts.

      Diana’s outfit wouldn’t be so bad if she had the 3rd button buttoned. As is, I just don’t think Diana would wear this to hang out with kids and the blouse is a wardrobe malfunction waiting to happen. The original (from the 1993 card) was much stiffer and wouldn’t have opened up like that. So, this is just added cleavage for cleavages sake.

      I don’t agree that the kids are shabbily dressed. They just look casual to me. It’s the randomness that bothers me. Like the two boys need long sleeves, but they couldn’t find something for the little girl? I know statues don’t need to be literal, and the kids are representing her work. There are just too many little details that distract from it. They should have found a photo of her with some kids and copied it. A quick google search shows there are plenty of cute ones that would have worked.

    • February-Pisces says:

      I’ll defend the statue because I know it’s an impossible task to nail and I appreciate the amount of work that must have gone into it. I think with someone like Diana she is hard to capture in this form. Diana was animated and full of life and statues are static and lifeless, so you don’t capture their essence as a person. You need to see Diana in motion.

      However someone like the queen is great to sculpture. Because she’s quite stoic, she’s basically a human statue anyway, no offence.

    • JanetDR says:

      I assumed that they represent children she has helped (like with the landmines in Africa). I can’t speculate about the other two kids because I can’t really see them. Which is a flaw.

    • Amy Too says:

      When I saw the first pictures of the statue, I thought the girl had a tail, or that there was some weird third leg thing going on to support her. That was a weird angle to photograph from for a statue reveal, because in photos taken straight on, or a little more to the right, all three kids are seen more clearly. I also thought the boy looked kind of upset/angry at first with his stance (arms away from body, clenched fists, looking away from Diana and being so physically distanced from her like he’s about to run off) and the girl looked like she had the face of a grown woman. As for Diana, I think they made her look a bit man-like. The jaw, neckX and shoulders seems a little broad and the way she’s standing seems masculine to me. She looks stern. Maybe it’s the angles of the photos. Maybe it all looks a lot better when you’re standing under it, looking up at it. Or maybe it’s the fact that it’s so big. Or that it’s a statue in that material. The color of the statue sort of sucks up the details and things get lost and just look dark and shadowy.

    • Ann says:

      I don’t like the outfit either but I agree it is very Diana. It was the 80s and early 90s, fashion wasn’t to my taste. But she always wore it so well, so it makes sense. I actually agree the girl looks old. She looks like a mini-woman, not a child. Reminds me of one of those ballerina statues. The other kids look like kids.

    • booboocita says:

      I keep trying, but I’m just not feeling the statue. I would have preferred something more abstract, something symbolizing Diana’s love and care for children, for service, for others. I have no idea what that would look like, but all the same …

      The statue design is a very safe choice. No one can say it doesn’t represent Diana. But it’s a throwback to statues of Victoria on her throne, or prime ministers of the past.

    • Pamuk says:

      Those shoeless short pant clad children were meant to represent the poor, the struggling suffering children Diana worked so tirelessly to help. I found it emotional and represented di perfectly.

    • tolly says:

      I finally found a picture of the third child, and hiding him was an excellent choice. The execution of this sculpture is really shabby, but he is the worst by far. The torso is longer than the legs, and the face looks like a chiseled 30-year-old male model.

  10. Merricat says:

    “…he was driven out of the palace gates, relief on his face.” Lol. I have no trouble believing that.

  11. Abena Asantewaa says:

    Harry seemed relaxed, happy, not a care in the world, because he has had good therapy, and has said his peace, defeated and slayed the britush media. He has two beauriful children, a gorgeous wife who loves him and a magnificent estate in Montecito, to boot!

    Kate’s plan did not materialised, she must be seething. The press, and Kate wanted the old threesome back

  12. ABritGuest says:

    The Fail really making a thing of Kate’s ‘noticeable’ absence. Apparently William’s old private secretary Jamie lowthie Pinkerton took her place as the peacemaker lol.

    Allegedly the Cambridges may host the rota for a viewing of the statute. If true this weekend’s press should be interesting

    Oh and british racists are unhappy about the Diana statute being ‘woke’ & depicting a black boy. They are blaming Meghan’s influence 😂

    • Jay says:

      Oh dear. Is just acknowledging the fact that Black people exist a sign of the dreaded wokeness now?

      I don’t love the statue, but I think it was the right choice to honour Diana’s work with children, and to alleviate poverty. IMO I think it would have been very awkward to show her with a young Harry and William – it shows her legacy was bigger than simply being the mother of princes.

    • Becks1 says:

      What is the big deal with “viewing” the statue? Just go to KP and look at the damn thing.

  13. CourtneyB says:

    I’m sure Harry enjoyed the short trip though he would’ve enjoyed it more with his wife and kids. But I would imagine there are people and places he misses including his Spencer relatives and some friends. There’s a happy medium between totally washing your hands of your first 30 some years and crying in his beer in California like the BM tries to paint his life in California. I can see the Sussexes visiting on occasion and seeing who and what they want. It was Harry’s home and I think he does have the tools to make these brief visits, do what he wants, see who he wants and chuck (no pun intended) who and what he doesn’t and not let it get to him. He IS free and that means not letting people make him feel like he’s somehow banished when the truth is he chose to leave. And he can choose to visit or not. And why and when and who. I don’t think he wants Archie and Lili to have no concept of their paternal ancestry. Take vacations (I love the UK myself) and visit patronages and friends. Stay in gorgeous hotels if a frogmore is a no go. Ride a double decker bus and sightsee. 🙂 It’ll just be on Harry and Meghan’s terms and timetable. So I’m glad he looks like he had a good time and I hope salty heads are exploding over it.

    • Legalese says:

      There is not yet any indication that he’s even left, just saying…

      • CourtneyB says:

        True. But this close to lili’s birth I bet he’s anxious to get back.

      • Snuffles says:

        Or that he’s still there. That’s on purpose.

      • BabsORIG says:

        LOL 😁😂, so pretty much Harry’s nowhere abouts are not known, except of course by his family in Montecito. This is Ninja 🥷 of the highest level, I love, love, love this. The BM is truly clueless. I betcha Omid feeling really important now, LOL. Everyone’s waiting on him to report where Harry is? Does Omid even know where ninja Harry 🥷 is? Just asking. I have my popcorn 🍿and Im really enjoying watch all this unfold.

      • ElleE says:

        @Oh the article you linked to:

        “Prince Harry has flown back to his home in Los Angeles to be reunited with his wife Meghan Markle, who is mourning the death of her uncle, and his two children, Archie, two, and Lilibet.”
        So MM’s uncle and her 2 children???? The worst lede in this whole fiasco. The article was eventually going to be true…ha.

    • ➕💯, CourtneyB.

  14. Chica1971 says:

    Keens will start smears soon. Harry got almost all the coverage from what I saw ..Wills was the support person yesterday.

    Liked that it was simple. Yes, Spencers seemed more enthusiastic about Harry than Will

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Chica, you know what I find the most interesting about that? William could have changed that if he had just tried to enjoy the event. If he had taken an interest in the people there. That’s all it would have taken.

  15. SarahCS says:

    “planters blooming with white ‘William and Catherine’ roses”


    Also, of course they’re white. The royals wouldn’t have it any other way.

  16. SexyK says:

    Someone said Harry kept looking William in the eyes while William kept avoiding eye contact. That shows guilt from William and confidence in Harry. Harry is free while William is trapped and both brothers know it.

    • DellT says:

      thats a stretch. I dont think it shows guilt. I think it shows how William thinks he is superior, which in itself is a lonely prison. Harry is better off.

    • paranormalgirl says:

      not making eye contact can show many things: guilt, shame, avoidance, disdain…

  17. Jais says:

    Harry stayed for a polite drink of champagne but William did not. Interesting detail. Am I bring extra here in thinking it’s a weird detail and wording or are they implying something?

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Was not William the host as the event was in his backyard????

      I thought it was weird too that it did not appear that William hung around until everyone had departed. This was not a Royal event. This was a Spencer Family event. Was not William the host as the event was in his backyard????

      I have read that Harry gets on quite well with hos Spencer relatives but based on pictures from yesterday William does not seem to care for them.

      • Ginger says:

        I have heard that Harry is very close to his mother’s side and invites them to all major milestones in his life. And William does not. I have heard he isn’t close with them at all. I don’t think either Will or Harry is close to Earl Spencer.

        It is odd for William not to stay for the reception afterwards. He was the host.

      • fishface says:

        Who DOES William care for? Serious question…

      • Justjj says:

        I think William cares for William? And vaguely, for his wife and children, as they are extensions of him…

      • betsyh says:

        Maybe it’s because the Spencers love both William and Harry and are unhappy about the rift between the brothers due to William’s actions. William must have felt uncomfortable and hopefully guilty.

    • Eurydice says:

      Where does it say that William didn’t stay for a drink?

      • Jais says:

        I guess when it says Harry only stayed for a polite drink it implied William did not?

      • Eurydice says:

        It would be implied if they said “only Harry stayed for a drink” but “Harry only..” means that’s all Harry did.

  18. Amelia says:

    We really do need to admire Kate’s magic skills you guys, she transfigured into flowers!!
    “ given the Duchess of Cambridge’s notable absence yesterday – was flanked by two planters blooming with white ‘William and Catherine’ roses.”

  19. Miranda says:

    It pleases me very much that Harry was all chipper, like “yep, got a gorgeous wife and two precious babies waiting for me back home. Life is beautiful!” While William was his usual miserable, surly self, and probably the only joy he felt at the event resulted from the absence of the wife he doesn’t love.

    • CourtneyB says:

      It only would’ve been better if Harry had been seen showing baby photos to his aunts and uncle. Maybe in the reception afterwards while they sipped the champagne. Lol

      • Miranda says:

        I have a new goddaughter who was baptized a couple weeks ago, and at the party afterwards, her very jealous 4-year-old brother was just sitting in the corner the entire time, arms crossed and cheeks puffed out, pouting because he wasn’t the center of attention. I can totally picture Wills doing the same thing as Harry showed off baby photos.

        Of course, it’s understandable, and even cute in a way, when a small child does that. Not so much when it’s a grown man.

  20. Dee says:

    And how long was William there? Did we set a timer on him? He looked stiff and uncomfortable.

  21. Legalese says:

    I don’t think he’s left yet. Whenever he goes to the UK they have paps stationed outside the private terminal at LAX and at his house. I just doubt that he would arrived in the US and no one would know about it. They literally papped him leaving last week for gods sake. Also, last time his spokesperson confirmed he had arrived home and they haven’t this time, and had he left yesterday like everyone was speculating, he would have arrived in LA yesterday night.

    • Ginger says:

      His spokesman didn’t reveal when he got home. They just had paparazzi stalking the airport in LA. I think Omid had an article that had “sources” but nothing official from their team.

    • equality says:

      Maybe he is staying to see the Queen. Hopefully to tell her to put the rumors about being unhappy with Lili’s name to rest.

    • notasugarhere says:

      You seem very determined to try to convince people Harry has stayed in the UK.

    • MsIam says:

      Cosmo UK reported that he left already so all is well.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Legalese, Since his plane was tracked irt on his way to the UK, I would hope that he would be able to get out of the UK and back home without anyone knowing what flight he was on. Do we know that he flew into LA? There are other airports in California.

      • Gennessee says:

        True. He could have flowing to Burbank and driven to Montecito from there.

        Or gotten a regional connecting flight to a smaller airport in Santa Barbara, Ventura,, or Oxnard.

      • notasugarhere says:

        There are photos of him arriving in Cali and getting in the car to drive to Montecito.

    • Kkat says:

      There are a bunch of airports he could have come in at. It doesn’t have to be Bradley at LAX
      He could have touched down at any international airport and got a connecting flight to different airports around.

      I would have, to screw over the media

  22. harla says:

    I like to think that Harry took a call from Meg right before he arrived at KP and was able to talk to Archie and coo down the phone line to Lili, which would explain his great mood.

  23. Catherine says:

    I’m glad we don’t know exactly what Harry’s travel plans are; the way the were stalking him is dangerous. Also, I don’t think we’re going to get a Harry’s version of events unless the tabloids start pushing out false info about what happened. That’s what we saw after the funeral. It was Harry debunking tabloid stories but we didn’t get anything about his private thoughts, feelings, point of view etc. That is likely why he timed his arrival and departure so close to the event because KP was already putting it out there that there was going to be a big meeting between him and William. The timing eliminated any possible lies about that. The detail that he didn’t even enter the main part of KP but walked around the public walkway and had apparently arranged to be met by his own assistant tells you how carefully he planned planned this to avoid any private contact with William or any of William’s staff that could be spun into something it wasn’t.

  24. Over it says:

    Harry is at peace. He has a beautiful, smart, intelligent kind wife. Two beautiful children. A mother in law who supports him but also knows how to mind her own business. He is in therapy so therefore isn’t holding on to bitterness. William is just sad and bitter because he is just a nasty piece of racist work.

  25. Over it says:

    And his aunties look so over the moon to see him. Even his uncle seemed happy.

  26. Eurydice says:

    Ok, the part that struck me was – “James Holt, a former press officer at Kensington Palace who has since defected to the Sussexes and now heads up their Archewell Foundation.”

    First, Holt DEFECTED to the Sussexes? Like betraying one’s army and going over to the enemy? That must have been when Will threw H&M out of Kensington back in 2018. And he’s been with the Sussexes ever since – doesn’t seem like he experienced office bullying. And now he’s the director of Archewell, and he was invited to the Diana event?

    • Edna says:

      Yes. This stuck out to me as well. So then, the assumption could be made that James Holt can give testimony as to what actually happened during his time at KP and whether or not he witnessed any of the alleged bullying. Most likely Mr. Holt and any other former KP staff now working for the Sussexes have given statements which are included in the “30 page dossier” put together by Schillings. No wonder KP is scared. They’ve backed themselves into a corner with these ridiculous bullying claims and the sunlight is going to be shined on the bullying antics of the other royals and not the Sussexes.

      And William didn’t throw the Sussexes out of KP. They left of their own accord to escape the KP toxicity.

      • Eurydice says:

        Yes, Holt was with W&K for a year before he went with H&M, so he must have seen a lot. As for Will throwing them out of KP, I was referring to what the media have been saying recently. Presumably, Holt can shed light on that, too.

        I still find it curious that Holt was at the event at all – maybe he was part of the Diana project?

      • Demi says:

        Maybe this guy knows about lots of KP & Jason Knauf shenanigans that’s why he left & he’s at Archwell..

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        What would be hilarious is if Harry made sure James Holt was there because no had gotten a statement from him, yet.

        The problem with this investigation is that the real bullies will be revealed. Too bad, so sad.

        I wonder if part of the 30 pages of M’s legal response included receipts? Wouldn’t that throw everyone into a panic.

      • Sylvia says:

        There was no 30 pages dossier presented as evidence to KP. That’s tabloid bs. It does’nt make sense.

        If Meghan has evidence of HER mistreatment by KP coutiers/staff /William, when working at KP/as a senior royal, it makes no sense to give it to the ‘bully claim investigators now, especially if they don’t intend to interview her to hear her side of the accusations. There is no need to show her cards at this point. Let the KP idiots give all the tea/evidence talking and leaking to tabloids and who not, of how THEY bullied her. She and her lawyers can just sit back and take notes. And when her lawyers have gathered all the evidences, they will only strategically be presented in a legal case, or AFTER the investigators came up with their findings.

  27. S808 says:

    Harry really seemed happy and at peace yesterday. He was glowing!

  28. The Artist Formerly Known as Valiantly Varnished says:

    Harry was DEFINITELY more relaxed than William. And he seemed genuinely happy to be there and to see his aunts and uncle. William barely even talked to his aunts.

    • MA says:

      It was kinda awkward and very telling, in the Sky coverage they showed Harry chatting with the Spencers for an extended time with William nowhere to be see n

      • PrincessK says:

        Well to be fair William had to move on to chat with others further down the garden but William clearly was uncomfortable with Harry having an extended long and warm chat with the Spencer’s. William knows they prefer Harry.

  29. Cee says:

    Ah, so this was a Spencer family event. Makes sense, as her children are Spencers too, not only Windsors.
    I still find it weird Kate was told to stay away but it was clearly everyone’s choice to make this event very personal and private, even from spouses.

  30. Cj says:

    “Defected” – I’m side eyeing the press for their constant use of terminology intended to suggest this is some kind of war. It just breeds more of people taking sides or doubling down and normalises concepts of violence

  31. ElleE says:

    One of the fonts here posted a YT link to a channel that recited from @/royalsuitor It was jaw dropping-to me, as an American, and it makes me suspect that @/royalsuitor is a British person…anywhooo

    Let’s say it’s all accurate, (sry, don’t have the link) Bill and Charles can’t acknowledge MM s as a member of the BRF and can’t let Harry back into his rightful perch, the place he has occupied his whole life by birthright, until he is no longer married to her. It means that there is a “rift”, Harry IS pissed that they are going to go through with it: cut him off financially, snub him and treat him as if he and his kids are also mixed race, until he divorces her, but that itself is the source of the problem, nothing else.

    Harry just knows this is how it is going to be: even Cathy and Sophie get a pass to snub you in public as long as you are married to a mixed race person, and Bill HAS to do it, it is his job, really, so Harry’s terms are: I don’t want any of these people anywhere near me in any public appearance.

    • Eurydice says:

      Well, this gets into the fundamental illogic of the situation. Why allow Harry to marry Meghan in the first place?

      • Lizzie says:

        I’ve thought a lot about that. My conclusion is the queen approved the marriage but William was not on board and even went to Charles Spencer to try to talk Harry out of it. I don’t think they dreamed that Meghan would end up outshining them all, they probably didn’t think she had it in her or she would stay in the background.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I think they ALL knew Meghan would outshine and outwork them, that’s why they were against her from the start.

    • DellT says:

      I dont wholly agree with that at all. Its nonsensical to sum up the disagreement as totally down to Meghan being of color. I dont think its that at all. Charles walked her down the aisle. I think its a “jealous of their popularity” thing and the mixed race thing is coincidental. Def part of the problem, but the greater evil is jealousy.

      • teecee says:

        They probably assumed she would be inferior BECAUSE she is black, so they were patronizingly “nice” at the beginning. But when it became clear that she was better than all of them, and that the public was falling in love (the Oceania tour), that triggered their white rage. It’s jealously borne out of failure of their central principle – that they are superior because of their identity at birth, and that is tied to whiteness.

    • Petra says:

      Articles at royal

    • booboocita says:

      The Meghan-hate didn’t really ramp up until after the Oceania tour. The RR rats were insulting from the get-go, and I can’t imagine that the courtiers were much better. But the hate spiralled out of control after Meghan’s triumph in Fiji. And just like that, a star was born, and the knives were out for her.

      Run, Harry, run! Back to Montecito and unconditional love and support!

      • notasugarhere says:

        The online hate for Meghan started in Nov 2016, the moment their relationship was outed. When Harry had to issue a letter because of the physical breakins to Meghan’s house among other things.

  32. Steph says:

    Short Afro styled hair? For the love of everything, if it’s so important to note that she’s with children that aren’t all white just say, he’s Black.

    • PoppedBubble says:

      Thank you. That hair style is NOT an afro. I’ve been irritated reading this since yesterday. Now I can let it go. lol

      • BabsORIG says:

        I am a African black woman and I could tell, the first tie I saw a close up picture, that the child has afro hair. And I saw this picture yesterday when Kaiser posted the first blog on the unveiling so my perception is not skewed in any way.

      • Jane's Wasted Talent says:

        Ah. In America, an Afro is a very specific hairstyle that looks like a halo in paintings of saints.

  33. Rapunzel says:

    I hope Harry kept an eye out for anyone trying to slip him a Mickey.

  34. Amelie says:

    The Spencers’ spouses were not there either. Diana’s sisters and brother came alone. So having Kate be there would have been odd too. William did try to one up his brother with the video footage and it was clear the cameraman had direction to only follow William as he walked around. I dunno why William did this since most people will only look at the photos of the event. It’s more of a tribute to his bald spot than to his mother. And guess what? In all of the pictures used in articles about the event Harry is there too.

    • JustMe says:

      I noticed that too! Wonder if instructions were given or was the videographer biased?

  35. Theothermia says:

    Lol about the part with the “William and Catherine” rose names. I wonder if they dug that up or if a source pointed it out.

  36. LaraW” says:

    Disclaimer— I haven’t seen the footage of the unveiling, just photos posted here, so please let me know if I’m completely off the mark.

    I read a lot of comments here about how relaxed and cheerful Harry looked, but I was struck by a comment which suggested that being cheerful and smiling a lot was Harry’s way of coping. I think this is very much true, given that the press always portrayed him as the happy party prince, and Harry’s own statements that he always just did his job— no matter what he felt, when he was on, he acted like nothing was wrong. He also has said that period of his life where he looks so happy was also the most miserable. So I do think projecting happiness is something he’s used as a coping mechanism for most of his adult life.

    At the same time, this trip kind of reminded me of some of my own experiences with therapy, where I went to an event I dreaded going because 1) I was confident I could use my skills to get through the situation, 2) I had a definite plan that I plotted out and went over many times with my therapist, 3) I gave myself a time limit so I wouldn’t feel trapped or overextend myself, and 4) I did something outside my comfort zone by interacting with someone toxic and formerly in my life (eg my father) without having any hopes/expectations on the outcome.

    Afterward there was always a long debrief with my therapist to unpack everything that happened. I kind of think the old Harry would have stayed longer out of a sense of obligation. I think it’s possible Harry laid down some major boundaries in a healthier way, getting some closure on some things, recognizing areas where the hurt is still very deep. His attempts to engage William— I mean, he tried. There’s nothing more you can ask of yourself. Resentment and anger towards a person takes a lot of energy, and so long as it’s there, you’re not truly free because of that powerful, poisonous connection. True space, I think, is coming to peace with yourself and not letting the other person dictate your reactions.

    I’m not saying any of this is true— it’s more of me thinking on my own experience and finding similarities with Harry’s. But it gave me something to reflect on, so. That’s my comment.

    • ElleE says:

      @Laraw” 💕☮️ Sounds like you made it all work – I needed a reminder that one can get through social obligations with a sound plan. Thx.

  37. Donna B. says:

    Did yall see the two videos on Omid’s twitter feed (Part I & 2) of the brothers meeting up with their aunts & uncle (Diana’s siblings)? It was fun to watch. When William came through to speak to them, they politely smiled, & gestured on. But, when Harry came through….Whoa. The smiles they gave Harry. The one aunt with the beige sweater on, after William walked past her, she walked/”shimmied” towards Harry; smiling & giggling at him. It looked like the Spencer’s were/are very proud of Harry because he has shown that he is his own man. Plus Harry was giggling throughout the whole event. And William…..Oh boy. Jealousy runs deep in that dude (William).

  38. Gk says:

    Let’s face it . In the future one or more of his children will upset William and this is how he deals with family conflict. Also similar when he was upset with Charles. I hope over time he changes and grows as the issue won’t be Harry ( over time and with age the news cycle about them will recede) but his teen/ adult children. I give Harry credit he is trying to become a better person. But William doesn’t seem to change or think he has to.

  39. Curious says:

    I wonder if William had nothing to do with this statue, I think it was Harry idea and William agreed,but it was Harry that did all the work getting donations to start the project .William, i am guessing is taking part credit for it ,but did no work.the way William was looking at the black African boy statue .(there are 100’s of pics of Diana with black African children)tells me William had no clue about it . i think William never visited the project and never saw what the artist was doing.but Harry did . maybe Harry said , William lets have a statue of our mother in the sunken garden, together with a few children, since our mother worked mostly with helping children.and William said sure, but it will cost money.No problem said Harry ,i will ask friends to help donate for the project . ok then said William, well its all on you go ahead,do it.

    • Sure says:

      “.. the way William was looking at the black African boy statue…tells me William had no clue about it..” H’s subsequent beaming smile felt like a gotcha coup de grace. I’m probably wrong but ….

  40. nicegirl says:

    Dusty Saltine Isle!!!!