As everyone discussed Prince William and Prince Harry’s appearance at the much-hyped fakakta statue unveiling, a curious story popped up on social media. Apparently, Kate had been seen out in Hyde Park with Prince Louis. The woman who saw Kate seemed… I don’t know, like she had gotten the story straight from the Middleton PR office. Go here if you want to read the account. What is clear is that Kate was pretty desperate to be in the news this week. Not so desperate that she would actually do a stitch of work, God no. It wasn’t *that* desperate. But Kate, like William, played herself. She was trying to publicly convince William to allow her to come to the statue-unveiling and he just kept shutting her down. So now, after the fact, the excuse is that “the royal family” asked Kate to sit this one out and like a dutiful duchess, she simply did what she was told.
Flying solo. Prince William attended the Thursday, July 1, unveiling of Princess Diana’s statue without wife Duchess Kate and their three kids, despite her desire to be a part of the event.
“Out of respect for [Prince] Harry and William, [the royal family] wanted it to be just about Diana’s sons and not a huge public affair,” a source exclusively tells Us Weekly. “Kate was definitely supporting William while physically not being there and really wanted to attend, but the family as a whole decided it was best for the kids and her to stay home.”
The insider adds that the family determined “a few weeks ago” who would be at the ceremony. Since she could not be there in person, “Kate watched from afar with” Prince George, 7, Princess Charlotte, 6, and Prince Louis, 3. The royals are expected to visit the statue “at a later time.”
Kensington Palace confirmed on Friday, June 25, that William, 39, would attend the event, as well as his younger brother, Harry. (The former military pilot, 36, flew in from Montecito, California, emerging from quarantine on Wednesday, June 29.)
The “family” didn’t have anything to do with it. As Robert Lacey and a dozen other royal commentators pointed out, the Queen and Prince of Wales wanted nothing to do with this statue. Chaz went on vacation. The Queen was in Scotland, trying to shore up diplomatic ties and stop independence. The statue was completely organized by William and Harry. If someone told Kate not to come, it was William or Harry. And since people are being so careful about NOT blaming Harry (for fear of him telling Omid Scobie the real story), we can only assume that William did not want his wife there. Which, to be clear, was actually the right decision from William. Kate would have turned the event into The Keen Linchpin Show with inappropriate gawping, flirting with Harry, staring at Harry longingly and ridiculous Diana cosplay. Blaming her absence on “what the family wanted” is a face-saving measure from Camp Middleton.
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red, Backgrid.
‘Since she could not be there in person, “Kate watched from afar with” Prince George, 7, Princess Charlotte, 6, and Prince Louis, 3.’
That doesn’t sound creepy at all…
lol
Lol is right. I also particularly liked this bit of utterly nonsensical word salading: “Kate was definitely supporting William while physically not being there and really wanted to attend.”
Hahahaha. I’m off to tell Mr Hench that henceforward I will “definitely be supporting his *insert golf/darts/cricket* hobby whilst physically not being there but I would really have wanted to attend.” I’m SO supportive.
The Middletons are doing SO MUCH in the press lately. I think they think they are controlling the narrative but they are just drawing more attention to certain things that probably nobody would’ve talked about otherwise. It is much more revealing thatn they think it is and I’m here for it.
I am completely with you. This is utterly fascinating.
Totally agree. Isn’t it called the Streisand Effect? if no one talked about Kate in the past few weeks, we’d never have thought of things being troubled. The brothers, in and of itself, doing the statue together (and alone) is not really all that surprising.
Completely agree. I get the sense that William is slowly realizing that all the press from the Middleton’s benefits Kate, not him.
Wondering how long it’ll continue?
Working hypothesis: the RF overrode whatever bribes sketchy Uncle Gary was offering to protect his illicit activities. They busted the Middleton’s next door (backyard) pot farm in hopes of stauncing the money fueling the Team Kate media buy. But it didn’t work. Instead Chuck(les) had to buy the media’s silence on the raI’d to protect his heirs.
Awkward.
It’s creepy and makes her seem so desperate.
Lol
after seeing the unveiling yesterday it’s definitely clear that it was the right call to axe kate.
i don’t know what happened to the passive, ‘happy to stand behind my husband’ kate (maybe the recent flurry of fawning ‘future queen’ articles have gotten to her head?), but lately this desperation to stay in the news is really unbecoming.
that story earlier this week about her getting a private viewing of the statue before everyone else was straight up clownery.
it’s honestly so embarrassing.
I don’t think that “private” viewing even happened. Otherwise we would have heard about it or there would have been some pap shots of her coming out of the garden.
Kate goes full on with self promotion and yet Meghan gets constantly accused of PR and promoting herself by the BM and Royal ratchets
All of this is simple to me. This was not a Royal event. This was a semi-private Spencer Family event. William did not want Kate there. I am sure Harry could not care less if Kate was present or not present.
I think the event went off perfectly so there is something to thank COVID for. Had this been normal before-Covid times, I have no doubt the unveiling would have turned into a three-ring circus.
@BTB, no, even without the COVID, William would still have banned KHate from attending, period. The decision to ban KHate was never based on any COVID guidelines. If it had been then there wouldn’t have been any soccer match outing pre unveiling. Also, if we are to believe William lives with his family, then KHate’s already in William’s bubble so the Middy’s COVID excuse is just nonsensical.
@BabsORIG – Do you think that if Meghan would have been there that Kate would still have been banned from attending?
PS – Please do not read my question as snarky because I in no way meant to be snarky. I am curious about what your theory on this matter.
@Bay – no, I think then Kate would have been there. But Meghan would not have needed to be told to hang back and not try to grab all the photo ops, so maybe Kate would have followed her lead.
@BTB, Meghan’s absence was NOT in any way shape or form related to the COVID so you comparing apples and oranges. If there was no COVID, Meghan wouldn’t still have been there because she was just weeks into her PP, it had nothing to do with KHate. And William banning his wife from attending was not based on whether Meg was or wasn’t attending so Im not even sure why Meghan is being brought up. COVID or no COVID, William would still have banned his wife from attending, that it.
Could Kate be desperate because everyone now knows how the Middletpns were funding part of the MM smear campaign? As in only the RF or its bigoted retainers is allowed to deliver shade….
All these people would drown in a meritocracy.
I’m imagining them passing the binoculars among them….or everyone with their own set….
I wonder if Kate watched from afar with the binoculars William gave her as a “romantic” gift.
Pure Dickens – poor Kate with her poor ragged children, shivering at the gates of Kensington – “Sir, can you spare a crumb?
🤣🤣🤣
I’m on the floor!
Really, she was so obsessed with a statue of a woman she didn’t know or missing her only opportunity to see Harry?
I go with wanting to see Harry. Maybe why Will blocked her.
She’s desperate to cosplay Diana. More than that, she wants everyone to see her as the Second Coming of Diana, and to garner for herself all the love and attention that Diana got. Posing with her husband and children next to the statue would have been a golden opportunity for her to get folks to make the connection.
Ain’t gonna happen. Diana was more charismatic, more stylish, more compassionate and caring, more MORE. Go cry, Keen, and buy more buttons to soothe your soul.
A neighbour who knew her when she was a child said she used to dress up as a princess and pretend to be Princess Diana. Nearly all girls dress up and pretend to be princesses but I never knew anyone who pretended to be Princess Diana or any real life princess.
Someone from her school said as a teenager, when there was a story about William possibly taking drugs, she was concerned “because she was a big fan of Diana” and concerned about “Diana’s son”.
Meanwhile when Carole was a teenager she had a poster of Prince Charles on her wall and dreamed of marrying him and becoming Princess of Wales.
Both Carole and Kate are obsessed with becoming the Princess of Wales and/or Diana.
Was Charles a “thing” in the 70’s? Like the sort of guy young girls would have posters of? Has he ever been considered hot and lust worthy at any age?
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I keep envisioning that meme of Kim K peeking out from behind the bushes.
LoL! I just pictured her hiding in a hedge with binoculars.
She may talk about it publicly while working up tears and wipe a tear off her face while talking about “watching remotely with her kids” and George asking Mama, why can’t We be there?
Don’t they live right by there?
I’m picturing her at a high window of Kensington, dressed in buttons, pressed against the glass, mouthing “I’m supporting you! I’m supporting you!”
If you ladies want a laugh, visit this forum:
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/buckingham-swirl-the-prince-charles-and-family-appreciation-thread.1997299/page-2453
It is REALLY interesting seeing people speak about Canada Day with regards to the royal family. I had NO idea they were toppling royal statues (as they should!) and the Queen has said nothing.
I think most Canadians don’t really care about the royals or if their statues get toppled. They are seen as British and not Canadian.
I’m Canadian and I care. I wish more had been toppled. Topple them all! We need to cut our ties to the crown and acknowledge that we are a nation that tried to exterminate our indigenous. Canada commited genocide. Period. We need to bow our heads in shame, listen the the stories of our indigenous, and given them all the resources they need to recover their dead. Bodies will be discovered at EVERY SINGLE residential school. The number will only grow.
@Madmangomal, ITAWY👏🏾
Will this be the catalyst for Canada to extricate itself from the Commonwealth? No need to wait for the queen to die.
I am dying at that meme in there of Meghan helping Harry up on the stage and he’s wincing like he threw his back out….was that supposed to be around Polo Baby time?? 🤣
Polo Baby was about 3 mos after they got married. Meghan was in a short sleeved denim dress. Loved it.
This was actually during their SA tour in 2019! They were apart for a few days beforehand—Harry visited Angola and went to the same minefield Diana visited. I think Meghan even said she missed him a lot during one of those brief daily interviews they were giving the RR before he returned.
Thanks for the link., Scorpion. Most interesting to me is several comments that Meghan is supposedly suing Valentine Low for 2 London Times articles. I’ve seen nothing anywhere else that she has filed suit.
That’s because she hasn’t. She’s basically sent out a legal letter saying to solve the “issue” (i.e take the articles down and/or apologise) or she will actually file a lawsuit.
It states “this article is under a legal complaint by the duchess of sussex” or whatever underneath the article headlines
H+M often put in these complaints but then never follow through and sue for defamation. Makes me wonder if it’s true ???
@Jeremy Well the Telegraph have put it on their website so I’m inclined to believe it’s true. Also developing a court case takes time. Things like “how likely are we to win?” and the optics are often considered before filing a case. Sometimes the issue can be fixed without dragging into an expensive and messy legal battle.
Meghan didn’t file her case against the Mail around 6 months after it was published. Again these things take time.
Jeremy, they complain when they know they are in the right and it can be proven. It doesn’t always have to end up in court. Unless the press can prove what they’re saying is true, Harry/Meghan can prove it is false.
Harry filed formal complaints against a couple of other articles and ended up winning retractions and apologies. It is important not to let the tabloids run rampant with their lies. When Sussex Family can prove it is lies, they call the press on it. Press can apologize or go to court, but it sets important precedence that Harry/Meghan won’t take it lying down.
Jeremy
The Cambridge’s have also made threats against the tabloids. Months later they go to court and it isn’t always heard of.
No matter which side you’re on you can see the tabloids print stories and pray no one calls them out on their lies…
Very rarely do they get a real scoop and it always comes from left field.
“What the family wanted” – yes, the family of William.
William benched her for this and it’s very interesting.
It IS interesting, especially when she pushed so hard to be there. I really do think her behavior at Philip’s funeral took everyone aback. What a thing to do.
@Merricat – I agree. I think that played a big part here bc William saw that she was not going to take a back seat regardless of the event. His grandfather’s funeral? Kate, front and center. Why would this be different?
Do you really think it was the funeral? Because she drew attention to herself? If so, then that paints Kate in a different light for me. I always took her as backseat being controlled by Willy but that now means she is playing the game aggressively but on the down low (if you will). That also means Willy needs to start commanding the ropes and not letting her and the Middle PR machine run wild. Interesting times indeed.
And maybe, just maybe, Willy did snap at her at the funeral like some of the Celebitches here had theorized. Yes, very interesting times.
@seraphina – I have a former friend who is like Kate. She is pretty much a narcissist who is very good at manipulating those around her and making it seem that she’s not really. She is also someone who has to be the centre of attention and is always pushing herself into the centre other people’s events (like a friends wedding – she tried to make it about her as she introduced the couple).
Kate (and Carole) are desperate for Top CEO to be seen as the next Diana – their obsession with her is scary.
Kate is controlled by Carol(e) and they have always worked together to control William. I think William has had enough of it, esp her attention seeking behaviour and is starting to push back on her/them. Narcs like that do not like it when people set boundaries and then enforce those boundaries. Cain is up to his eyeballs in this mess but I think this change in attitude toward his wife and MIL is a separate issue to the brother’s issues. As I said yesterday he’s had or having a ‘come to jesus’ moment, whether he’s gotten there on his own or has a new voice whispering in his ear – time will tell on that.
And the funeral was a solemn event where she just had to stand around in a crowd. Imagine her playing the hostess in this handful of aunts.
Her behaviour at the funeral was tacky. It was so obvious that she had Chris Jackson and others ready to shoot her in poses and you can see that no one else was doing anything like that.
Also I maintain that William snapped at her after the funeral was done and they were walking out.
There’s also the fact that she stared at Harry during the funeral like he was the after-funeral buffet. Having your wife look like that at your brother would get old whoever you are.
@Seraphina – I don’t think it was “just” the funeral but I think it played a big part. With as small as this event was, Kate trying to pull focus would have been a huge distraction and I think William just didn’t feel like dealing with her because of that specifically and just in general.
She dressed as if she, herself, was the grieving widow – albeit in a Dynasty episode.
IMO her eyes looked menacing in that photo.
Very interesting. Royal family or no, if you were in a happy and supportive marriage your spouse would be at your deceased mother’s memorial event. I used to be in the “Never get divorced” came, but idk now.
I’m sure if things were different and if Britain and the RF were less hostile Meghan would have been there.
I will always believe that if Meghan had given birth six weeks earlier she would have been there and Kate would have been there too.
Also note, NONE of the Spencer Family spouses were there either. I 100% believe that William did NOT want Kate there but I also believe that both William and Harry did not want this event to be turned into a three-ring circus.
COVID restrictions changes everything. If the number of people allowed was limited what is the point of her taking a spot from Diana’s family when Keen has no connection to Diana. It was very selfish on her part to even want to attend, shows how spoiled she is.
@Lizzie it definitely wasn’t due to COVID restrictions, despite what the palace put out there. The WellChild event had more attendees. Hell the soccer match was full. Wimbledon is at half capacity but everyone is sitting together. Kate definitely could have attended had she been invited.
If things had been different, Royal family not hostile to Meg means no smear campaign, no racist bullying, no Sussexes’ step down as SRs, Sussexes still in London the yes Meg would “PROBABLY” have been in attendance. But IMO, no hostility would have meant nobody dictates to Meg what to do and when, which means as a 2 week post party mom, Meghan wouldn’t have been nowhere but home with her 2 week old daughter while hubby went to the “Fakakta unveiling”.
@BayTampaBay If both Kate and Meghan attended, it definitely would have been a three ring circus.
I think being in the royal family definitely changes things. However, you have a fair point. If they were a close, committed couple, then it would have been no question for Kate to accompany William to the statue unveiling. Moreover, the narrative would have been completely different. The current narrative gives off such a whiff of desperation and discontent that it’s astonishing.
Isn’t it so interesting — and satisfying — when things play out EXACTLY like you predicted them to??
I called this yesterday – the Mids PR is sooooooo obvious. Am just surprised she waited a day to insert herself, again, into the event. The stench of Middleton desperation to be at that event could be detected from another reality.
And of course she was ‘seen’ in the park with one of the kids – obvious stunt queen gotta be obvious stunt queening.
It’s becoming clear that any influence Carol(e) thinks she has/had over William is gone – Kate never had any influence to begin with.
William is cutting them off and out, he will do less and less joint engagements with his Top CEO. Cue seeing him to more events with him and George – ease his son in and his wife out.
While they may not announce a divorce, they may be prepping to announce a separation. I think William has found a jump off who wants the job.
Its funny because the derangers spend days speculating what Meghan might do to draw the attention to her because of course she’s such an attention seeker, only for their fave to do just that while meg was minding her business.
I was wondering the same thing. Has Willy found a replacement that wants the job, can handle the job, be good at the job, and bonus points if she can compete with Meghan on the beauty, charm and intelligence front.
@Snuffles—what woman with those qualifications would want PWT? That’s the only snag in these divorce speculations—he wants to marry again. Hell, he couldn’t get what he wanted before he when he wasn’t bald, constantly rage-engorged, with massive masseter muscles.
Jecca Craig did not want the job, Isabella Amaryllis Charlotte Anstruther-Gough-Calthorpe did not want the job. Rose does not want the job. I do not believe the London lawyer wants the job either.
If William wants a second wife, he really needs to find a European Royal from a mediatized Royal House as no one else would want him or the job.
I agree with Sister Carrie….I don’t think any woman like that would want PWT, at least not publicly.
In personality and values….Harry is a catch. That’s why a good woman like Meghan was willing to give up so much in order to be with him. He is truly a good man. William….not so much. He has no redeeming qualities that would make any woman want to risk it all.
I don’t know if he’s found a replacement, or he’s figured out he’s better off solo and without Kate. However the separation and divorce come about, he wants it to look ‘cleaner’ than the Charles and Diana one. If he’s found his next wife, he’ll be keeping her well-hidden until after things are settled legally with Kate.
William can’t handle a strong woman. He can’t dominate a woman who knows her own mind, who has real interests, an inner strength, a desire to do *something* in/with this life. He may think he *deserves* a wife/life like Harry’s, but he’d waste it (and no woman like Meghan would have any prolonged interest in him as she gets to know his personality and his lack of drive for *anything* other than football).
He NEEDS someone who is as lazy and work shy as he is, as he can’t and won’t tolerate ANYONE “outshining” him. He is VERY much his father’s son. If Keen keeps popping her head above William’s threshold line, she will find herself pushed down again and put in her “place”. If she rebels, then she may get booted eventually, perhaps when the kids are ALL in boarding school.
If he has found a replacement, he’s going to keep her under lock and key until the separation/divorce is announced. He’s not going to want it out there that he’s cheating on Kate and that’s the reason for the divorce.
My guess though is that he’s realized something many have said on here but always in the context of staying with Kate – if he can have the life he wants, with the freedom he wants, why would he bother to divorce her? But if he can have the life he wants and the freedom he wants and NOT have to deal with her (if he dislikes her that much), then why not divorce? He would get as much good press IMO from being a visibly involved single dad as he does from being a family man now. Is the PR he gets from being married to Kate that invaluable? I think he is starting to realize that it is not.
The only way William will find a replacement is if Charlene divorces Albert and decides she wants to be a Princess of England. That is the only way I see that happening because the only one dumb enough to be Queen of England after seeing what they did to Diana is in fact Kate. He is separating from Kate but mark my words, there will never be a divorce.
Becks, speaking as a single mom, with no co-parent in the picture, William will get better press from being an active single dad, than his best day as a family man. It is the bane of single motherhood that any man gets huge credit for taking their kids to soccer practice once a week and are fallen all over for by some of the mothers (married and otherwise) for being “so involved in their kids’ lives”.
Meanwhile, I have two cute dogs, a cute son, and could not be getting less action if I lived in a nunnery. If I were a married woman, remotely unsure of my relationship, the last place I would send my spouse is the Saturday morning soccer field.
The mother of one of my son’s school friends died last spring, and I have kept in contact with her kids and her husband during quarantine. There is immense comfort in numbers, at least for this completely solo parent. Even during quarantine in Los Angeles, which means the man never left his house, ever, he was getting more invitations for action than I have had in over a decade, and he could not be mourning more deeply or openly (via social media) if he woke up every morning with that as his sole purpose. It would almost be disturbing to watch all these women throwing themselves at a grieving widower, if it wasn’t so absolutely heartwarming and breaking, at the same time, to witness a real love that doesn’t end with death.
Christine, I have to say, your story hit me RIGHT HERE in the heart. And it is 100000 percent true. I am APPALLED at all the social media love and adoration my husband gets for doing, at most, 15 percent of the work being a parent. His exes and other women and even people I know and like swoon over his “involvement” and “love,” and it ‘s all I can do to keep my lunch down.
@Sister Carrie You make a good point, but if Charles can find someone to be his consort so can Will.
Susan, thank you so much for that, and I feel your pain. I’m embarrassed to be a woman, often. I would love to say that I can’t believe that women (especially ex-girlfriends, W.T.F) swoon over your husband, right in front of your eyeballs, but I really, really can.
I mean, that’s what makes this entire system so insane — no matter what William does or doesn’t do, he’s still going to be King. Charles is no paragon of virtue, but he’s the heir, so, all he has to do in order to be crowned is…not die before his mother does. Absolutely ludicrous system.
I think William does probably care about looking better in the press than his father, but let’s be real—that isn’t too difficult. Even if he divorced Kate tomorrow, most people worldwide would never hold a decades-long grudge against him like so many people do with his father; the only reason the resentment toward Charles has had so much staying power is because of how beloved Diana was and continues to be. Elegant Bill won’t have that problem with Kate, and he knows it.
William can be separated, divorced, unhappily married, tending to his rose gardens, whatever— he’s still always going to be mediocre at best, and he’s always going to be crowned King (barring the monarchy being abolished completely, but I doubt that will happen before William’s reign). I think that as long as he can position himself in a way that allows him to believe he’s “better” than Charles, and receives “better” press, he’ll continue to do whateverTF he wants.
The timing is definitely making me wonder if there isn’t some truth behind the rumors of W&K having a ten-year marriage contract, though? William had certainly checked out prior to their 10th anniversary, but it does seem like things have gone off the rails way worse than usual over the past few months, with Kate’s desperation level reaching DEFCON 1 recently, so the timing makes sense.
I feel so sorry for poor little George.
Why do people keep wondering whether William has found a replacement for Kate who can do the job better?
William doesn’t WANT someone who can do better. He wants someone who can reliably be as mediocre as Kate, who he can throw under the bus as needed. William had a brother who did the job better than him, and look at what happened there. Why do people think that he will suddenly fall head over heels for some woman who could potentially overshadow him on any level?
That encounter reads like someone from KP wrote it. It doesn’t read like a typical fan encounter (at least to me)
I’m glad she wasn’t there. She would have made the day all about herself. Although, it is very interesting that she wasn’t there. Very odd.
Seeing the pictures and footage yesterday, it kind of made sense. None of the spencer spouses where there. But what makes it strange is that:
1. If everyone agreed to leave spouses at home, that could have been simply reported. Instead we’re getting all this spin of why kate wasn’t there.
2 kate was obviously pushing to be there and she was still sidelined.
@cecilia I agree. They did not report this as none of the spouses were attending and that’s why Kate wasn’t there. And had that been done then few would be questioning it.
But the Middletons panicked and Camilla T was out discussing that Kate wasn’t attending at least a week before this event, which suggests there was much more to her exclusion.
It sounded very odd. The person couldn’t tell whether it was George or Louis riding with her so they want us to believe they couldn’t tell the difference between a 3 year old and a 7 year old? They couldn’t have been going too fast to distinguish if the guard was jogging behind them. Also getting tired of Kate and bikes. Could that be what Harry meant, they couldn’t freely ride a bike because they had to stay in sight of the palace security?
“That encounter reads like someone from KP wrote it. It doesn’t read like a typical fan encounter (at least to me)”
Sorta like the Flybe incident??? More bloody handprints on this one than the Queen Victoria statue in Canada
And like the silly ‘Carole returns dog story’ we got years ago when the Midds hired new PR consultants because everyone dislikes Carole. I’m convinced that is part of the anti-Meghan energy coming from the Midds. Doria was embraced, Carole remains disliked and mocked.
That encounter story made me wonder, is Louis that big that he can be mistaken for a 8 year old child? I mean, George is 8, Louis is only 3, and I really don’t know any 3 year old that is so big to pass as a 8 year old child. Does Louis ride a 8 year old bike? I mean when my grandson was 3, his was the bike with the 2 small wheels attached on the back wheel, but now as a 7 year old, I mean his bike is huge (not adult of course) for a 3 year old. This story is so so confusing.
The version I read also had them riding on the sidewalk. That’s illegal in the US, is it ok in the UK?
George is pretty tall for his age and much taller than Louis. It’s not believable to confuse the two unless you were miles away and didn’t really see anything.
It’s not Illegal in California. In most areas it’s ok, a few cities have some restrictions on adult bikes. Kids can ride just about anywhere
I can Willy slowly gaining his freedom from the Middleton clan – could it be he is realizing the power he will really have as PoW? And in realizing it, he understands how he can break free?
Maybe we will see a new book in a few years: Find Freedom II – The story of how Wills broke free from the Middletons.
Honestly, if this privileged ass has anything in his mind about “finding freedom” from his wife and children, no matter the Middletons (yes, they are awful), I don’t want to hear about it. William was a fully grown ass man when he got married. He witnessed his parents misery, firsthand, and he chose to marry Kate.
Finding freedom is for Harry and Meghan. Grasping at straws is Will and Kate.
Question I just thought of— if Will and Kate are just going to live separate lives, why all this desperate press? Whether they live together or separately, so long as there’s no divorce, she still gets the crown and the title and all that. And honestly, it would be a typical aristo attitude, wouldn’t it? Married with children, both have affairs on the side, and wife’s title or whatever intact.
So why all this hoopla unless the actual crown is on the line for Kate? Wasn’t her daughter becoming queen Carole’s ultimate goal anyway? And if she just wants to be grandmother to a king, well she already is.
I guess it could just be jealousy? A press monster unleashed unwittingly in the wake of their smear campaign against Meghan. But… if we’re speaking in strictly material terms, if William has no plans to divorce, then Kate should be fine and shouldn’t feel threatened. No divorce, crown will always be hers. I thought that was kind of the original plan anyway, what with Kate telling Harry’s girlfriends(? Or someone else?) not to expect fidelity.
I’m beginning to lean more towards the idea that the Middletons are in overdrive because there IS something to lose.
One thing I’ve wondered about this. Let’s say the plan is or was to be separated but never divorced. However, they are a public-facing family so is or was the plan to forever act like a happy couple and a happy family? Sure, they can, but what about the kids? I don’t necessarily mean that in a #savethechildren way but in the fact that eventually George, Charlotte, and Louis will be interviewed as they get older and will get questions about their life, family, and parents. Would they then be trained to lie? They would eventually know that their parents are not together, but if William and Kate want to maintain the image, the kids would have to be trained to not reveal the truth. This is what confuses me about the separated but not divorced thing. Sure, maybe aristocrats live that life but the royals are public-facing celebrities and cannot do the same. That stresses me out for the kids. Like don’t slip up and mention that you miss your dad bc he doesn’t live at home. Technically, they could blame it on a heavy work schedule but they’ve effed that up already bc they barely work!
Yep.
@Christine: 👏👏👏👏👏 — especially at your last sentence re: “Finding Freedom.”
@Jais I was just thinking about this earlier! Sooner or later, one of the kids will slip, even if they’re strictly instructed to lie about the family’s situation (and shame on William and Kate if they teach their children to lie, JFC). It’s just impossible that one of them doesn’t make some innocent comment to a teacher or classmate or someone eventually, giving the whole game away. And that’s *far* too much pressure to be putting on such young children, imo.
Those poor kids already have so much more pressure on them than average children do; for their parents to add even more solely for the sake of keeping up the “image” they’ve created is truly disgusting, imo.
I tend to agree with you that W&K probably had a plan, but coming up with parameters for an abstract “plan” around the same time you’re drawing up your prenup is useless once you’re actually living the reality of it and the best interests of three small children must be taken into account.
They made this mess themselves; their ENTIRE image rests on the “happy family” schtick, and they might be slowly realizing how f*cked they are, if we’re right and there’s been some sort of amorphous “separated but not divorced” strategy in the works.
They must have realized that it will be all but impossible to keep that facade up publicly and long-term, and maybe William decided that divorce is preferable if those are his two options?
It would explain Kate losing her entire sh!t over the past few months, resorting to more desperate tactics, and running to Camilla T more frequently than she has in years.
Or maybe they had a 10 year contract with 1 kid. Then Kate kept pushing the boundaries hoping that the more kids she had the harder it would be for William to end the contract after the 10 year period was up? Now 10 years up, William wants out and KHate is holding on for dear life?
I don’t think the Windsors would ever have a contract about any of this, but there would simply be expectations because that’s what their circle does. That said, the way Kate and the Middletons are acting makes it look like the informal agreement to separate isn’t something they agree with, or they are trying to leverage for something more.
@Nic919, maybe not a written contract but maybe a verbal agreement of some sort, with the Windsor exception that the Middys will honor said agreement. But probably ma Middy planned all along to work on William making him numerous cheese sandwiches and holding him in her lap as often as possible in the hopes that by the 10 year mark he’d be like putty in her hands? I mean, anything is possible with this lot. But now William still want out even after all that nice treatment and the Middys are freaking out? 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
It’s not as if Kate or the Middletons are the most confident people on the block, even when the relationship with William could have been called “secure” or “stable.” They’ve always been desperate and needy, and they’ve shown themselves as such. Confident people don’t spend upwards of two decades putting out this sort of press on a regular basis, even during the good times.
That being said, yes, there’s something definitely weird and off about the whole PR blitz as of late. Even the embiggening campaigns of the previous couple of years, when Meghan was on the picture, wasn’t quite so sad. I wonder what happened and why they’re scrambling behind the scenes like this?
I would be a lot less suspicious about Kate’s absence if they actually followed their alleged “never complain never explain” strategy for once.
Yep. Since they don’t always all attend the same events if they had simply announced who would attend it would have drawn less attention.
Yeah it was definitely a good idea not to have her or any other spouses. As well as no rota. Made it feel like an actual family event as opposed to a media circus that happens to have a statue unveiling in the middle of it.
@Sofia: I agree. They’re blaming Harry for banning the royal rota but it was the right call. Banning Kate was also a good decision so credit to William for that move.
I bet William hates the Royal Rota as much as Harry but the problem is that William needs them and Harry does not.
Yes, agreed.
It was indeed the right call. It kept the attention on diana and the statue.
It was the perfect call.
She’s cosplaying again, her marriage is the image of charlie and Di.
@PamUK I just choked on my water
And her reward for staying away yesterday, she got a day out at Wimbledon.
It was William who told her she couldn’t be there because if it was Harry it would have been leaked to the press.
Wimbledon is one of her patronages. She’s obligated to be there.
Why does Wimbledon need a patron?
The Duke of Kent has not retired from being a patron. Kate was so desperate to get something involving Wimbledon, she got to be involved also.
@alexandria
Kate is a royal patron of the All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club, which hosts Wimbledon every year.
Right? Why does Wimbledon need a patronage? Does someone for realz know?
Lol answers were quick and above.
LOL @ “She’s obligated to be there” It’s cute that you think she understands the word obligation.
Kate usually shows up the second week of the tournament to watch semi finals and finals of the men’s games. She rarely shows up this early in the tournament and she’s added events like strawberry chopping that she’s never done before.
Wimbledon is the only patronage Kate has consistently attended even during pregnancies and mat leaves. But it’s no coincidence that she shows up the day after she is not invited to the statue unveiling.
Kate was repeatedly seen at Wimbledon for years before she had any formal connection to it. Wasn’t willing to work, but would spend days posing at the mens tennis with her sister. The only reason she was eventually given half the Wimbleton patronage was because it was the only way to get her any ‘work’ credits. She was going to go anyway, it looked bad she was lazying around tennis instead of working, so the patronage came about.
There are patronage’s she doesn’t see for years, so evidently she isn’t obligated. Here she is in front of cameras for a long time and no need to try and look concerned about anyone else.
When has Kate EVER felt she was *obligated* to show up anywhere? If I remember correctly, she’s not shown to EACH (pulled out last min. and they had to get Ed Sheeran), she half-assed and regifted a “gift basket” (and didn’t even bother to enclose a note), she’s flat out not shown to various events (like the Irish Guards, didn’t want an “expectation” of showing), one patronage we know CLOSED from lack of help, others are struggling.
KKKeen KKKween in Training does *very* little, let alone feels *obligated* to do anything!
She’s the patron of Wimbledon, the Duke of Kent is the President. Or its vice versa lol – that she’s the president of the All England….Lawn and Tennis club? AELTC? Dont make me look it up lol…..and he’s the patron of Wimbledon. I can’t remember who is what. But he’s the one who gets to hand out the Wimbledon trophy to the winners each year.
Actually (if I got it right) tennis and Wimbledon in particular is very… posh? Idk
I think Kaiser already covered these stories. Like Carole and Pippa wanted membership at all english club and Pippa and James were pushy to get the invitation to royal box at Wimbledon.
It’s all from Carole. It’s so deranged – she’s chasing the life she’ll never get.
She’s ‘obligated’ to visit her other patronages. She just doesn’t bother because they’re usually not convenient photo ops.
This was a Spencer family event, like the Queen and Charles cared about Diana, dead or alive.
Did you guys hear in the video, who was running the show saying focus on William and the video is so choppy because they’re trying to cut Harry out. LOL.
Actually there is also footage that solely focused on harry. So there were probably 2 different camera’s
Sky News footage lingers on Harry and the Spencers.
Would have been better to have a broad view so media outlets wouldn’t be hiring lip readers to see what was said.
Yes, but they love an opportunity to hire a lip reader, to muddy the waters.
Well didn’t look like Spencers’ spouses were there either so it was probably just an intimate gathering of some of those closest to Diana.
But yeah someone is doing too much.
While I understand the message that some other royal spouses were not there, I think Kate is on a different category in this story. Her role covers Diana’s son’s wife, the mother of Diana’s grandchildren and FFQC so she is on a different level. Plus, add to it the speculation they are having some marital issues – her absence makes it look rather suspect.
Yes, she was the only one who kept bleating about how much she wanted to go. The rest just respected the decision.
Kate and the Middletons made it about Kate not going for well over a week so they were hoisted on their own petard with this dumb PR because pointing out that the Spencer siblings weren’t bringing their spouses would have made Kate’s exclusion look different. But Tominey and others went off in a direction that dangerously pointed to a separation. And the frosty appearance at the Euro game confirmed it.
Exactly, Nic! If they had just accepted that Kate and the other spouses weren’t coming, probably in deference to the fact Meghan wasn’t able to attend either, then no one would have batted an eye. But that’s not the Middleton way. They have to remind everyone of Kate’s status, even when, in this particular case, it wasn’t about her. It was about Diana. Period. They played themselves and it’s been hilarious to watch their chess moves, which are actually accomplishing more to further the narrative she’s on her way out the door.
@Britguest, I don’t think the Spencer spouses are even expected to be involved but Diana’s sons’ spouses ARE. IIRC when Kate and and Chelsy attended some of those events, none of the Spencer spouses were ever there. I think at this point, the sons “own” Diana (I don’t know what’s the best word to use but own is not intended to be negative) than her sisters and brother or the Spencerfamily.
“Kate was definitely supporting William while physically not being there “
The invisible rock, the linchpin whose absence is more comforting than her presence. That spin will corkscrew her right into the ground.
That sentence made me laugh and laugh. It made me laugh again when you quoted it. It’s such a peculiar thing to feel compelled to say.
Too funny! Maybe because people were talking Lady Macbeth yesterday, but your post reminded me of this line – “Nothing in his life became him, but the leaving it.”
Nailed it, Red Weather Tiger. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Your comment is hysterical. Thanks for the laugh.
I guess it’s too late for Kate to gather her dignity. She practically begged to go, and she made it a public begging, which is just humiliating. Ugh, I almost feel sorry for her. I mean, not really, but in theory.
I don’t as she has no shame or self respect – people like that embarrass themselves and then like to blame others, telling them that they made them behave like that. Top CEO and Carol(e) are both like that.
I think the Middletons thought there would be a public outcry over her not going and William would be forced to relent, but instead most people didn’t give a damn.
Yep and they can’t or won’t see that. As usual they overplay their delusional hand.
Carol(e) cannot accept that the public DGAF about her daughter. Never have and never will.
Yes, Carole buys her own manure wholesale. It’s a classic mistake.
@Merricat, I think it’s more Carole testing the quality of the ganja she is growing that makes her delusional.
Yeah and if this one is from the Middleton camp, it might be another attempt at that, which will fall flat too.
Carol(e) cannot accept that the public DGAF about her daughter. Never have and never will.
What Carol(e) and the whole lot need to accept is that 70% of the public really DGAF about any of the Royals except QEII and when she goes to big jewelry box in the sky it is “GAME OVER” for the BRF. There may be a monarch but the days are numbered for “The Firm”.
The midds were hoping for a public outcry so that Willie would bend to their demands. Except no one gave AF except for a few lunatic keen stans on twitter and Camilla Tominey.
Kate just doesn’t have the same fan base as Meghan. They like her but they only really liked her after Meghan came along. So it’s just reactionary and superficial. Kate’s fans take Meghan personally, like she is an affront to their mediocre selves. Same as Kate, really.
Carole has an overinflated sense of…well, everything, but particularly when it comes to how much of the population even thinks about Kate.
What she *should* do is lay low for the time being and instruct her daughter to do the same— let all of the dust settle. But as usual, she’s trying to push Kate front and center in any way that she can think of. And it is REALLY not in Kate’s best interests to be making attention grabs right now, imho.
I don’t think they were counting on an outcry, as such. I think they were hoping to present the viability of the “Kate as the monarchy’s lynchpin” narrative in order to demonstrate Kate’s value and contribution to the firm. I think almost all of the Middleton PR from the last year and a half is probably just that. They’re trying to show off how Kate can fit into the PR narrative in a way that makes her an asset to the operation. And even a sloppy, fake-ass story works better in building a particular narrative than anything else.
Of course, the Middletons suck at their PR, and they always have. It’s not even that they constantly lie–everyone lies in PR. It’s just that they’re so openly fake and disingenuous that it’s insulting to their audience.
How do you always find the BEST pics of Linchpin McKeen’s outsize facial expressions? I’ve begun imitating them while reading these posts and they take effort. Shame that Duchess Meghan couldn’t teach her a bit about acting (natural).
I came here to say the same. I LOVE the thumbnail photo choice.
Is she wearing her moms old stewardess uniform?
OK that made me snort my coffee – man you guys are on FYAH this morning!! 🙂
A braying donkey looks more subtle.
Not sure how being told not to come by the family is saving face.
It’s less specific (and therefore personal) to say “family” rather than “my husband,” because it implies a group decision.
Yup. Easy way to sidestep questions of why your own husband decided to shut you out of such an important and meaningful event.
I thought that the royal family disliked comparisons to the mafia, but then they use ‘the family’ when it suits them.
I don’t understand why Kate couldn’t just chill the f—k out and stay out of this. It seems as though no one’s spouse was at the unveiling. Not even the aunties and uncle Spenser.
For once just keep yourself and rein your mother in Kate. Such embarrassing behavior.
This x 1000. Kate and Carole need to get a grip on themselves and stop spazzing out on the daily. They are making complete jackasses out of themselves and it’s mortifying to watch.
Things get desperate when you see it all start to slip away.
@matthew
This times a hundred. The Middletons are panicking and throwing their last cards on the table. It’s a sight to see.
The pictures of the two brothers are much better than Kate making Bane eyes at everyone over her mask like she did at Philip’s funeral.
William also looks more relaxed.
Bane eyes!! That’s really funny 🙂
I’ve tried to like her and just can’t. She’s a quintessential mean girl and she and her mummy are getting more desperate by the minute.
I have to admit I’m surprised this version of events made it into print.
Obviously William told her not to go, but, yes, I am genuinely surprised it is being framed as “she wanted to go but was told not to” instead of some spin about how she graciously decided to bow out.
Agree Maria. Am surprised that it’s not Kate chose to let this day be about the brothers. Are we sure this is a camp Middleton brief? Could it be someone at KP who is more aligned with William?
I think its interesting too. If I was part of the Middleton PR machine, I would put it out there that Kate NEVER intended to attend because the event was about those who knew and loved Diana the most creating something for all who loved Diana to share. The fact that its out there that she wanted to attend and was told “no” and that we are hearing that from several sources at this point…….its just…..interesting, lol.
@Maria, me too!
Becks, I feel like this must have come from William? There are tons of other, far more flattering ways that Carole could have framed it, but this was so…blunt. It feels like William is really getting fed up with her and not caring who knows it anymore.
I am sure Queen Kate will make up for yesterday’s absence when September ceremony comes around. As far as she and her ma are concerned, No one puts Baby in the corner! She won’t stay benched for long.
What September ceremony?
Supposed to be a large(ish) gathering in September to commemorate Diana’s statue, when it is safer to congregate. It will include family, friends and spouses. It’s another reason to get Harry to come back to Britain for pics and ‘happy trio’ stories. Like someone else mentioned, they are going to come up with some kind of ceremony every 90 days to guilt Harry back into the country. I’m sure the goal is that sooner or later, one of these trips will include Harry’s family as well.
Elton John helped fund statue so he will be there. Maybe if he performs Kate can lay across his piano and hum along to Candle in the wind?
Spitting coffee all over my keyboard.
@Lady Digby – I cannot “unsee” it!
ROFL @Lady Digby now I need a new keyboard…
OMG Lady Digby, I am dying at this image lol
I don’t know if Harry will be back for the ceremony in September , only because WellChild changed their awards ceremony from September to June 30th for him.
It seems premature to set something up for September with the Delta variant around. IMO.
OMG Lady Digby I just spat up my tea. Jeez, that was freakin’ hilarious! Maybe she can cosplay Michelle Pfeiffer, put on the red dress à la The Fabulous Baker Boys and sing Makin’ Whoopee.
No one puts baby in the corner 😂
That was awesome.
Then you followed up with:
Candle in the Wind
Epic Friday scroll.
I now have “Nobody puts Waity in a corner” stuck in my head
I’m surprised someone said this out loud, the family, William, told her she wasn’t going.
Are they pretending she didn’t say prince elegant was going to take her and the kids see it before the unveiling? She is just a camera ho, she never met Diana and I don’t for a second believe hanging around in your wig wearing buttons is some kind of ‘support’ for you husband. But I’m surprised they drove home the point today.
I think the funeral fashion shoot pissed everyone off.
I really wonder why that thought never entered the heads of Kate or Carole? Carole at least is usually a little more forward thinking than that.
I think they’ve been in negotiations for weeks now about her role in this with each side applying pressure through press briefings and leaks. Her leverage is that she can dress up like Diana and take the kids to a spot reminiscent of her during the unveiling. Their leverage is literally everything about their lives, but that’s the nuclear option and this is too small potatoes for that. They clearly settled on Diana cosplay at Wimbledon the day after the unveiling and the leak about her being asked not to go by the royal family.
They are really arguing it out in the press. If Kate wants to cosplay so much, she might want to remember that Charles and Diana’s most heated press battles were fought when they were separated. This situation is treading closer and closer that couple’s war games in the late 80s and early 90s, ending up in separation and divorce. There is a very large amount of willful blindness affecting House Middleton.
Yes……just as I thought….those courtiers/men-in-grey really consider themselves as royalty….part of the British Royal Family
BWWWWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAA
If ah laugh ah pop up (as we say in my part of the woods.)
Naturally, they consider themselves more “family” than Meghan, hence…..here we are.
And it appears that Kate didn’t get a sneak peek, ahead of Harry, of the statue as was reported a couple days ago.
I just have to say that my husband would never dream of asking me not to attend such an event with him, so to me this has been such an odd dynamic.
It just seems embarrassing she wasn’t there after all the big talk by the KateCarole camp about her being closely involved with the project. Yikes
Kate…you in danger, girl.
Apparently she/they know it…hence the desperation.
Sure does seem that way these days. Didn’t think things would get more bizarre than the constant PR blitz and Uncle Gary’s rants, but here we are.
I think I said this earlier, but Kate’s desperation is at DEFCON 1. She’s been positively oozing desperation for weeks now. She needs to realize how bad it looks and get a grip.
We know she doesn’t really have close girlfriends she can trust, but I wonder what her relationship with Pippa is like? It seems like Pippa might be the one person who could be straight with her, tell her this looks bad, and that Kate would consider and respect Pippa’s opinion?
Does Kate have NO ONE in her life that she knows she can go to and get the unvarnished truth? It’s hard to hear sometimes, but we all need someone like that in our lives. I hope she has at least one person (other than her obscenely overbearing mother) who she can have honest conversations with, and whose opinions she values. Maybe her father?
@Lorelei, problem is, Pippa was raised by Carol(e) too….so she’s probably not much better than Kate. Girlfriend really is out here doing the most with NOBODY to tell her how sad she looks. I’ve wondered myself what Michael Middleton’s deal is…you never hear a thing about him. I envision him as a total Mr. Bennett type….shaking his head and letting Carol(e) run roughshod over everyone in the family. Although even Mr. Bennett had his ways of dealing with Mrs. Bennett….doesn’t seem like anyone can tell Carole a damn thing.
I think the Firm is tired of these stories from Camp Middleton because they came off as Carole and crew were going to take over the monarchy and they were openly planning the coup in the papers. Someone reminded Kate Charles will become king despite adultery and divorce and the same can apply to William.
Duchess Mcbuttons didn’t go because her husband relationship with her is space. Lots and lots of space
Why did she only bring Louis to the park? First George and Charlotte are the only ones to go out for Father’s Day. Then only George for the soccer match and now only Louis for the park. I know you don’t necessarily need to have all of the kids together all of the time but I still think it’s odd how they keep breaking up the kids. Maybe I’m reading too much into this.
You’re not alone. The older two are not in school (at least I don’t think they are — is it summer break in the UK now like it is here in the States?). What reason do they have to keep the older kids home while the little one is the only one to get an outing with Mom? We’ve seen lots of George recently, while Louis seemingly gets lots of one-on-one time with his mother, but where’s poor Charlotte been?
School in England is in session for another few weeks i believe so they would have been in school for Top CEO’s sad little pap walk.
School is still in session in the UK for a few more weeks. We tend to break off around mid July rather than early-mid June
Why is this getting out? Does Kate want us to know Wills sidelined her? Or does Wills want us to know?
Baytampabay was saying yesterday that maybe it’s the courtiers who were behind the Meg smears campaign. Could the men in grey have turned on Kate now? Are they leaking this?
@Rapunzel – That is my theory and I am sticking to it. If the Cambridge marriage has hit the rocks, the courtiers are turning. The Royal Courtiers need a Royal Rock Star resident in England and it ain’t Kate.
I can see the courtiers doing that because they are loyal to the blood Royal not the married in who can be divorced. That said I still believe all the Tominey articles were from Carole and not the courtiers.
Idk what is going to happen. Divorce seems v possible at some point but these peeps are weird AF so who knows. But if there truly is a divorce, absolutely agree with @btb and nic919 that the courtiers and press contacts who are loyal to Kate will slowly leave and begin to leak and backstab. They will leave what they see as a sinking ship. Some will stick around to get clicks for getting Kate’s side out but they will not truly be loyal bc, as monarchists, they will be loyal to what they perceive as power. And it won’t be Kate.
I agree with all of these responses, but the fact remains that however pathetic this is, Kate is still the most glamorous member of that dull family, and she’s all they have to work with now that Meghan’s gone. I think they may have finally gotten it through their thick skulls that Sophie isn’t happening — Kate’s all they have.
Don’t they need to keep her in their good graces, as well as the public’s, to some extent? Someone needs to be photographed wearing expensive new clothes and jewelry every week to give the papers new pictures to publish, and there needs to be *someone* we’re looking forward to seeing wearing a tiara the next time there’s a State Dinner, etc. Don’t they need her for that role alone, at least for a while?
Idk, I can see the bm getting a lot of mileage out a divorced and single ffk, who is he dating and who will he bring to each event. There would finally be interest in TOB.
The courtiers turned on Diana who remains the most glamorous member of that family for several generations. And she was charismatic and known globally. It won’t be hard to flip on Kate if William says so.
Its a very real possibility – I think her attention seeking at Philip’s funeral and all the embiggening PR has p!ssed them off. Her family have been pretty vocal recently about skipping the line of succession to benefit themselves.
I wonder how long it will be before the press start dropping their load on the Middletons.
There’s been an ominous silence from Clarence House for a long time now while the Midds, Uncle Snorty and Kate’s PR peeps have been faffing around like a flock of noisy chickens clucking over how she’s going to save the monarchy and can’t put a foot wrong, etc. etc. It’s the calm before the storm methinks.
The men in grey were never really enthusiastic about Kate in the first place, let alone on Kate’s side. She was someone who was viewed as the only acceptable choice because not only was there no one else more “suitable” (read: with a more aristocratic background), she was, at the time, thought to be the only person who could convince William to do the things he didn’t want to do–like not quit college after the first semester, and not push for abdicating his place in the line of succession bc he didn’t want to be king.
But they never really accepted her, because she was never really viewed as “one of them”, ie someone with an appropriately aristocratic background that they thought would be suitable for a Prince/FFK. British class snobbery is absolutely real, and Kate was very much on the receiving end of it, and she continues to be. I don’t say that to make anyone feel bad for her–she certainly buys into the system given how desperate she has always been to be a part of it–but to explain that she herself hasn’t really been accepted into the fold by anyone at the palace either. But she’s been continuously disrespected by the establishment plenty of times, and she puts up with the humiliations and continues to put up with them because she wants to be FFQ and live out her mother’s fever dream from the 80s.
Keenbridge stans don’t want to say out loud that Kate got benched because of either Willie or harry. They don’t want to admit that harry didn’t want to see her, because in their own head he’s madly in love with her and that they were bffs until ‘meanie meghan’ broke them up.
They also don’t want to admit that her own husband didn’t want her there either because ‘they have the perfect marriage and she’s the ideal wife’.
Nobody wanted her, but it was Williams call.
Generally the tone with the Kate stans was “the Duchess has three kids and a packed schedule, there’s no reason she should be forced to be there to diffuse tensions!” or “It’s clear Harry demanded she wasn’t there, like a child throwing toys out of a pram!”
They are desperate and delusional.
A packed schedule? These are the same delusionals who said her doctor had ordered her to sunbathe topless for Vitamin D in order to get pregnant. They will make up any excuses and die defending it. All for their cardboard cutout Keen.
@notasugarhere, I nearly choked. Vitamin D = pregnancy success? That’s a new one!
Sometimes I can’t help being petty and asking “Oh I love to hear about Catherine’s initiatives! Do you know what her daily schedule is like nowadays? I’d love to hear what she’s focusing on most!”
They hate that, LOL.
Something just occurred to me… maybe when one person in a dysfunctional family gets healthy, it can change many other dynamics? Like maybe Harry’s leaving and living on his own terms shattered the cognitive dissonance for William, triggering new realizations, maybe particularly re his father, Carole, Kate, the courtiers… But because the old ways worked for William at least on a superficial level, William is in a bit of a crisis now, clinging to old beliefs, terrified and enraged at the prospect of change, resisting the opportunity for growth, but also maybe exploring new boundaries, new possibilities…like saying no to the Middletons on this one…
I had this same thought about Kate. She is miserable in exchange for being royal, yet she sees Harry throw away his royal position and peace out. The first person who quits and says this isn’t worth it sometimes starts the domino effect. It must mess with Kate’s mind that she valued being royal so much and Harry said it sucks, I’m leaving it behind and choosing happiness. Must be tempting.
Worse for Kate? She saw Harry fall hard for Meghan, adore her, marry her within 2 years of meeting. Walk away from the royal life for love of Meghan. Meanwhile, Kate has a husband who cannot stand her and is looking to set her aside.
I love this theory.
Sue Denim, I agree that with Harry leaving it changed the dynamic within the family. I’m starting to think that H was the glue to a certain extent. He probably kept the warring factions from warring (partly because they all warred with H). Now, the brf needs to figure out another dynamic and I don’t think they have a clue how to go forward. Yes, they are pushing the Magnificent 7 (so sad that Yul is dead!) But they’re having difficulty getting that off the ground. I believe it’s time for them to remember who they are supposed to be–part of a monarchy. Stop leaking lies to the media, and start working Be very, very visible. Do go works, people. I have no idea what the rota would do, but that’s their job that the British people pay for, so work. Yes, that means W has to work. He needs to do more with TQ and PC in order to learn the ropes, because clearly no one as taught him to date. I believe Keen is simply a lost cause. Frankly, if W divorced her that wouldn’t be a loss to the RF.
You may have something there. William may be getting restless and he may have had a bellyful of of Middleton PR.
But if he separates/divorces, he may want to think about who will have the out sized influence on the children. It’s a no win scenario where the children are concerned. Both families leave so much to be desired.
You’re not wrong. And let’s not forget, too, that for literally YEARS, what we heard from William’s side was that he didn’t want to be king at all. That if he could, he’d give up his place in the line of succession, and ride off into the sunset to live the sort of life Harry is probably living now. That one of the reasons why he wanted to do that was because he hated the institution for what it had done to his mother over the years, and he wanted no part of it. The narrative from around this time was that Kate was the one who convinced him to not give it all up.
I don’t doubt that for William, there’s a huge part of him that’s always been quite angry and jealous of what he sees as his brother’s “freedom.” But the truth is, William also had the same freedom and he always did. He was just too much of a coward to take it. He went the way of Princess Margaret–too afraid of what he would lose in terms of prestige and privilege, that he never thought enough about what he’d actually gain from it all.
But I don’t think that this thought has ever crossed Kate’s mind. For her, all of the downsides–the humiliation she faces daily, from both the palace, the staff, and William himself, the loneliness of having to live this sort of life (and it’s very lonely), the lack of direction–are worth it, because for her, the ultimate prize is getting to be a part of this institution and getting to be FFQ. I think for her, it’s such a huge part of her identity that I don’t see her giving any of that up any time soon. I think she buys into it and has blinders on to the point where she doesn’t really think about any other direction her life could have taken.
I think you are correct. If that is the case, then for as long as Harry has the freedom and life that William wishes he had, this rift between them will never heal. Willliam will never be able to let go of that resentment.
Also William must see that Meghan provided Harry the strength he needed to escape. She helped him see ways that they could provide for themselves outside of the monarchy. She provided a path to America on the basis of her citizenship. She held his hand and they jumped, safe in the knowledge that if there was no parachute already, they could certainly construct one on the fly.
William’s wife doesn’t have that vision or that citizenship. Even if they did make that jump, they would hit all the trees, rocks, concrete and broken glass on the way down. I bet that angers him about Kate.
I don’t know about you, but I could have used another Alexis Carrington liquid eyeliner stare straight into the camera a la Phillip’s funeral. Quel dramatique.
I think that exact picture is a big reason she got benched
Lol. Oh, what Hollywood producers could do with Kate. It would be must see viewing.
Hahaha – you just KNOW Kate would love to be living that HW life Meg and Harry have in LA. Keen does love her celebs.
What Alexis Carrington could have done with mask drama!
That pic had some real “Take me to the Casbah” vibes
If the Cambridge’s end up leading separate lives or divorced, I guess William’s advice to Harry about “slowing down and making sure” was BS. Obviously, 10+ years of courting doesn’t equal a stable marriage for him.
They already do lead separate lives.
Plenty of pix of Kate looking at William trying to pretend there is interaction … but none of him looking at her. Nor at the football match. He didn’t even seem to be aware of her presence. Something is definitely “rotten in Denmark.”
What is sad is that George seemed to be ignoring Kate also. So is William passing toxic views about women on to the child? If that is the case a divorce might be the best thing for the children. At least they could see their mother stand up for herself and maybe get a healthy relationship.
Maybe with all this newfound attention from Dad, PG is now acquiring his father’s tendencies to ignore his mother. If William treated his own mother poorly at times, and now has no use for his wife, he’s certainly not going to be the type of dad to say “Don’t talk to your mother that way!”
All the royalty thing is sort of weird to me anyway. But if they recently explained George’s “destiny” to him, how do you put that? Does Will tell him that he and George have “special” blood but mum doesn’t because she wasn’t born royal?
First of all, that report from the woman who said she ran into Kate and Louis biking is undoubtedly fake as Dolly Parton’s boobs. This was yet another pathetic attempt from the Midds to draw attention to poor Keen being left out of the unveiling when she could have been the Great Reconciler for Wm and Harry. Second, the Midds really need to dial this PR push back a few notches because it’s now becoming ridiculous and doing more damage to an already messed up situation — the wobbly state of Kate’s marriage. They are digging themselves into a hole they’ll never be able to get out of if they keep this up.
The tipping point could have been the Middletons letting Uncle Gary talk to the media.
I saw some talk on one of yesterday’s threads about William’s lawyer side-chick possibly making him up to Kate and Carol’s manipulations. I seem to have missed the tea, so pray tell, who is this lawyer he’s rumored to be linked to?
We don’t know. Well some people here have said they know who she is (or at least her face/knows she exists) and have seen them around London. Or at least have heard the stories. Another detail I remember is that she’s around 10 years younger or so.
But other than that nothing. I do remember stories of a lawyer being whispered when the Rose stories were at its peak but I know nothing else.
Ok, thanks.
To add to this, why does it often feel like Louis is separated from the other two?
Because William only takes the two older ones when its his weekend. A little toddler is too much for a separated non-hands on dad to deal with.
And early years Kate can’t be left alone without one of her children.
What if Kate’s next Diana cosplay is to cover herself in silver body paint and appear as a living statue?
Lol- I love this! I’m now picturing Kate standing on a wooden crate like the busker she is, dancing robotically whenever someone tosses money in the hat.
If these two do separate/divorce and William pisses off Carole and Kate enough, I will buy us all popcorn for her tell-all interview.
If they do separate/divorce, Keen will have to sign the mother of all NDAs in order to get a decent payoff.
If he’s going to drop her, he’d better do it before Betty passes.
He just needs to drop her before he becomes prince of Wales, which doesn’t automatically happen when Charles becomes king. If there is a delay in making William POW, then we know something is up.
As it is, she’ll be the double duchess of Cornwall and Cambridge immediately upon the queen passing. But the time and place of William getting the POW title is totally up to Charles as king.
^ @HeatherC it is normal to wait to make someone the POW. There is a separate fancy investiture ceremony, I expect it will be months if not a full year post TQ dying. Thats v normal, I would be more confused if they rushed it
Jeremy – Charles can give William the title whenever he wants. The investiture is separate. Charles was given the title in 1958 and his ceremony wasn’t till 1969.
She would NEVER do a tell-all. First of all, she’s not an articulate speaker and the camera does not love her. Secondly, she’s aware the powers that be can determine her fate. Think Catherine Parr I believe.
@BamaBorn she could always do it Andrew-Morton style, so she only needs to speak to one person and then the book is written without her really having to do anything.
I think a tell-all from Kate in any form is extremely unlikely, but omfg I would love it if she gets fed up enough after reaching a certain age and realizing she let her mother and husband dictate her entire life.
@Lorelei
Always the victim narrative with kate. She has plenty of agency and is capable of being ruthless all on her own.
People give mama carol too much power and always infantilize kate even when there is proof right before their eyes that she is anything but an innocent dove.
I don’t think she ever would–to do a tell-all, you need to be able to stand up and speak for yourself. When has Kate ever actually done that? She gets told what to say by her mother. If anything, the tell-all would be an interview with Carole Middleton, not Kate.
This is the most clear evidence I have seen that the woman is nuts. Any normal husband would have wanted his wife there, because he would have known that his normal wife would have stood in the wings without making it about herself. But neither of them is normal.
If they are living apart, then i guess everyone in the royal family /staff/bodyguards /Catherine family knows this ,and many Royal members don’t have anything much to do with Catherine from before, knowing the direction its going.I am sure William is not visiting his in laws. many of the royal members never do events with her anyways, so the interaction is next to nothing.must be very embarrassing for her when after Phillip funeral,the royal family saw these catwalk pics of Catherine in the press.they had no clue she was doing that . they all must have wondered what was she doing.Might seems like Catherine is pass the point of feeling embarrassed about anything. this made up story about someone seeing Catherine and Luis at the park.is just lies. no one is that blind ,that a child zooming pass the person on a bike ,and said hi to the child, but could not see the difference between an 8yr old and a 3 yr old. cause the made up person could not tell if it was George or Luis.The royal members must know Catherine is putting on a show in public, and failing badly cause William is not playing the same game. William can’t even fake it in public. he can’t even be friendly with her. Catherine is over the top happy when seen with William in public and Willian is just cold and hard in the face.. I think William will try not to do events with her,its making it worst when he does. and if they must do events here and there together, i am sure there will be people there so they each can talk to other people and not be in each other face.Diana/Charles was doing their own thing before they was separated,if they didn’t get caught living separate lives they might never have legally separated or divorced.Charles/Diana could not pretend they were a happy couple. I think Phillip/queen also lived separated lives, but in this case, Phillip respected the queen.he did the events he had too with her,he was never cold towards her in public. he spoke warmly of the queen.Anyways time will tell ,most can’t play this game of happy marriage when the press is on you all the time. it will end when more and more lies come out.
@Curious your comment just made me think of something— when the Sussexes left, there was ENDLESS BITCHING about how much more their security would cost…I get that the Cambridges will all still be in the UK so it’s not a perfect comparison, but if they need security teams to cover two separate households for the Cambridges, it will essentially double the amount being spent on them. But Bill is the heir so I doubt we’d hear a peep from the media about how they’re now stuck funding security basically full time in Bucklebury as well.
since i read Carole is with the children very often , i also read someone saw them at a park. So, since Carole is spending so much time with the children, Charles must pay for security for that too.i think its always 2 security guards guarding them. before the Pandemic Carole was with the children very often,that must have cost Charles a fortune paying for that extra protection whenever Carole takes the child,or children out to parks to play.plus hours/days at Carole home .maybe that’s 1 reason Charles didn’t like that Carole was spending so much time with the children.
This all seems very humiliating for Kate.