The Sussexes have been friendly with millionaire Bill Guthy for months, gasp

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are seen after a visit to One World Observatory with Governor Hochul and Mayor de Blasio

The desperation from the British media has been palpable for months now. Prince Harry and Meghan keep their information locked down. They only announce sh-t when they’re ready, and we don’t know about most of their meetings and ideas and plans until they’re ready to tell us. The British tabloids are in a tight spot, because Meghan & Harry still “sell,” and clearly, the papers have a vested interest in keeping H&M’s names in as many stories as possible. Which has led to increasingly hysterical reporting as outlets like the Daily Mail cling to whatever morsel of information they can get their hands on. The Mail learned that Meghan, Harry and their team flew by private plane to and from New York. Guthy-Renker was the owner of the plane, so of course the Daily Mail ran an exclusive about how Meghan was clearly looking to do a beauty line with infomercials. And now the DM claims that the makeup line is definitely happening because Harry & Meghan visited Bill Guthy’s ranch months ago.

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle visited a controversial marketing company owner’s luxury ranch multiple times this year – and even brought Meghan’s mother along, can exclusively reveal. The firm, Guthy-Renker, has been fined over illegal business practices in California, was sued for $26million by thousands of women who claim its shampoo made their hair fall out, had commercials banned in the UK for ‘misleading’ consumers, and launched the career of self-help guru Tony Robbins was accused last month of spreading Covid misinformation.

Last week revealed the Duke and Duchess of Sussex flew on a private jet owned by the firm, Guthy-Renker, after their VIP tour of New York City. The news sparked speculation that Meghan could be planning to launch her own cosmetics line, following in the footsteps of the world’s richest supermodel Cindy Crawford who has made hundreds of millions of dollars from her Guthy-Renker hair products.

Though the Sussexes and the company stayed silent about any budding business relationship, new photographs obtained by reveal Harry and Meghan have been friendly with the firm’s co-founder Bill Guthy for months, and may have even used his Santa Barbara estate for their bombshell Oprah Winfrey interview.

The former royals were spotted driving in and out of the Guthy ranch in Carpinteria several times between February and March this year. A series of pictures from March 1 shows Harry leaving the estate in a black Range Rover with Meghan in the passenger seat and her mother Doria Ragland in the back. Their interview with Oprah was also reportedly filmed just days earlier, before the Sussexes were stripped of their royal titles on February 19.

[From The Daily Mail]

LOL. This is truly a breaking-news exclusive: rich people have rich friends, OMG! Various rich people are looking out for Harry and Meghan because the Sussexes are genuinely liked and respected. I expect we’ll soon hear royal commenters sniffing about HOW DARE Harry and Meghan have rich friends, how dare they even associate with people who have made hundreds of millions of dollars from direct-marketing beauty lines. I hope the Sussexes did film the Oprah interview there – it would make sense from the timing. This is my favorite part of the story: “Though the Sussexes and the company stayed silent about any budding business relationship…” OMG, why isn’t Harry providing updates to the Daily Mail about who he meets and why and when?? LOL.

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle visit a elementary school in Harlem during their official visit to NYC

Meghan Markle shares a smile as she returns to her hotel with Prince Harry after duties in NYC

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  1. Jessie Quinton says:

    They’re friends with Tyler Perry as well. Does that mean we’re gonna see them star in the next Madea movie?

    • Vivica says:

      I’d watch the hell out of that 🤣

    • Snuffles says:

      OK. Hear me out. I have the plot to the sequel to Madea’s Witness Protection. See, Doria is actually Madea’s cousin and she calls Madea to give Meghan and Harry a safe hideout while they escape “the royal plantation”.

    • MMadison says:

      The entire story is ridiculous because the photo the Daily Fail used to show Harry/Meghan driving out of the cosmetic guru estate was a photo from 3/2021. The same photo that the Daily Fail used to show that Meghan/Harry had a Land Rover just like other Royals in the UK.

      • Cessily says:

        Timing wise could this have been where the interview took place? I may be way off but it came to mind. As for the plane I believe that they rented a private plane owned by this company that was not in use which is not unheard of. If it was not so damaging the fiction they write might actually be funny.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Cessily – EXACTLY!

      • Lorelei says:

        What I don’t understand is if they took the photos of them driving to or from this guy’s home in February and March, why didn’t they publish this asinine story then? They love nothing more than speculating about all of the tacky things she “could” do.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @MMadison, agree. The photo used was for a different story in March. If they were seen driving in and out of the entrance of the estate-where are the pictures of them entering and exiting the entrance of the estate? The picture the DM used is of them on a road-you can see the white striping on the left side and part of the yellow striping in the bottom right corner. The other photos the DM used is an aerial view of the estate and what looks to be real estate photos that can be found on the internet along with photos of celebrities that were attached to GR, I believe.

        The first clips of the O interview started airing February 14th. February 19th is when the honorary military appointments and royal patronages were removed. It was in January that it was said they couldn’t use HRH but still retained the HRH.

    • TigerMcQueen says:

      From your keyboard to God’s ears.

    • MsIam says:

      Don’t cha know @Jessie, that was the deal Harry and Meghan made to stay in Tyler’s house? Look for them to star in the next TP Production, “” House of Sussex” or “Meet the Sussexes!” I should stop because next Dan Rotten or one of the Rota Rats will be pushing this same dumb story.

  2. Aurora says:

    What is the Gotcha! in this story? Are we supposed to be outraged that the Sussexes have friends who they visit?

    • Snuffles says:

      Honestly, I think the only connection is that they used the location for the Oprah interview and probably visited before they actually sat down.

    • Mary Mae says:

      I think the “gotcha” is supposed to be a classist one. Like the insinuation seems to be, look how tacky it would it be if Meghan started doing infomercials after being royalty.

      • Snuffles says:

        I think they are trying to connect them to shady business entities. Which is ironic because the entire royal family is a shady business with shady partners.

      • Jasper says:

        I’m agreeing with both you, Mary Mae, and Snuffles. They’re going out of their way to emphasise how the company got fined and that Tony Robbins connection. They did so in the last article too.

      • Mac says:

        Guthy is a shady character and I am skeptical H+M are actually friends with him. If the Oprah interview was filmed at his ranch, it would have been coordinated by her people.

    • SpankFD says:

      No, we’re supposed to be outraged that a rich rich rich person was so careless and/or stupid to be caught doing illegal/immoral activities to get rich. You have to clean your money, like the Sachlers, to be accepted.

      I would love to get my hands on *all* their secret accounts. Shame shame shame + prison time might help.

  3. Lori says:

    Not like they are hanging out at the lularow headquarters so Im not worried about them at all.

  4. k says:

    This is unhinged. Also, if this is a business relationship, it seems more likely they may be working on a philanthropy project than a make-up line.

  5. Merricat says:

    This is what the rota has been reduced to, random fantasies conjured by wild guessing and their empty pocketbooks. If people pay for this sort of thing, they deserve what they get.

    • lanne says:

      The Sussexes have not been stripped of their titles.

      • Merricat says:

        Is this a reply to something else?

      • Feeshalori says:

        The article claims they were stripped of their royal titles which is untrue. H&M agreed not to use them.

      • Lorelei says:

        I get so confused about all of their fussy little rules regarding titles. Aren’t the “Duke of Sussex” and the “Duchess of Sussex” their titles, which they are still free to use? I thought the “HRH” was considered a “style,” not a title?

        Honestly it’s so stupid to be having this conversation in the year 2021! But I don’t think more than a handful of people outside of the UK know or understand (or give a rat’s ass) that there’s even a distinction; not allowing Harry and Meghan to use their “HRH” is not the punishment the palace thought it was, lol. It only matters internally as it relates to security.

        The Sussexes are still royalty and will be treated as such —which the entire world just saw in NYC —whether they’re “using” (what does that even mean, btw? What’s an example of them using it?) their HRH’s.

        That idiotic family did not learn a thing from Diana. Not one single thing!

  6. Amy Bee says:

    How come the Daily Mail hasn’t published the pictures? If it had the pictures since March how come they never revealed that the interview was shot there? And the Daily Mail is still pretending that Harry and Meghan talk to them.

  7. Jan says:

    Toxic Tom must be pissed, they’re even driving around with Doria in the back seat, Scammy did say Harry would be lucky to find room in the bed, because Meghan and her mother are so close.
    If TT do not squander his all ill gotten gains, I can see him leaving it to Archie and Lili to get back at their parents, he is that evil.

  8. Lemons says:

    I think the BRF and the RR need to come to terms with the fact that H&M have cooler, richer friends than they do. It’s pretty clear that William and Kate don’t have real friends. William may have aristo buddies and friends, but he hasn’t matured beyond those relationships. And it kills them.

    • JT says:

      But even his aristo friends don’t even like him. The Tatler article was neither flattering to Will or Kate. I got the impression that those two are merely tolerated in those circles rather than being truly liked. The story from yesterday went on and on about how the Keens are invited to the best hunts but even that sounded suspect. And why is it that W&K never go on the record for them like H&M’s friends do? I just don’t think they have genuine friends who want to be around them, especially as they’re both described as “quite grand” and William is an asshole by most accounts.

      • Becks1 says:

        I think if William divorced Kate (and thus the Middletons) he would be welcomed back into all aristocratic circles with open arms. The tatler article was snarky about him but in regards to his relationship with Carole – resting his head on her lap, etc. I think it was kind of the aristos sending hints that they wanted William back, not the one who was overly dependent on his mother in law.

        But that doesn’t mean they’re friends the way that Meghan has solid, real friends. It means that William and his aristo friends grew up in the same circles and all know how the game is played and are willing to play the game. Kate is still an outsider, as the Tatler article showed.

  9. Feeshalori says:

    Last time I heard, they weren’t stripped of their titles or am l missing something? I know they agreed not to use their HRH.

    • Jan says:

      Harry’s honorary medals and their royal patronages were taken back.
      Someone attended an Air-force event and asked “and in terms of flying the aircraft like that, in those sorts of conditions, have you been put in a position like that before?”

      • Feeshalori says:

        Yes, but this specifically says their royal titles, not honorary medals and patronages. Agreeing not to use them is different than being stripped of them which involves a whole bunch of parliamentary red tape and good reason for doing so. Are the ratchets once again throwing out some BS here? #stripandrew’stitle

    • BayTampaBay says:

      I did not get the “stripped of their titles” comment either.

    • Lizzie says:

      You are correct, they haven’t been stripped of any titles. They are still officially HRH but they do not use that in business or it seems in their personal lives though they certainly could.

    • Couch potato says:

      No, they’re not stripped of their titles, so the wording “former royals” are wrong. If they said “former senior royals” it would be right, but that wouldn’t have the same nasty ring to it.

  10. Becks1 says:


    LOL. The Daily Mail is so desperate. Rich people have rich friends and if I were them I’d focus on the kinds of friends the working royals have (you know, the ones the british taxpayers are still supporting.)

    • JT says:

      Perhaps they could focus on all of the pedophile buddies that always seems to be around the other royals. Ghislaine Maxwell was straight up sitting on the queen’s throne goddamn it.

  11. Margaret says:

    I for one would not be mad at meghan for her being the face of a cosmetic brand. Her skin appears to be flawless. I personally would like to have that glowing completion. I wouldn’t be mad at her, but no infomercials.

    • Myra says:

      That was my take away from this, too. I wish she would launch her skin care line because she looks flawless.

  12. Lolo says:

    This is such a non story but they want people to be outraged about it. they do this with anything attached to Harry and Meghan. They did the same to Clevr Blends, Netflix, PG, etc The royal family has tons of shady connections. William just did a video with Bloomberg and we didn’t hear about any of his shadiness. I love shakira but she is currently in a tax evasion case and I didn’t see the Daily Mail write anything about it when they added her to earth shot. Even Jack Ma was missing. Bill Gates met with William. Nada.
    Anyhoo I pray the Sussexes become billionaires…I’ll happily buy whatever they sell..

  13. AmelieOriginal says:

    They are bringing up a story from this past March so what… six months later? Obviously it’s not great the company this guy owns was sued by so many women whose hair fell out after using its products. But at this point, I think every major company in the beauty industry has been sued at some point unfortunately. Are there truly any “safe” brands out there? But this story is really not that interesting and who cares about pictures that were taken so many months ago. In another few years, we will be getting articles like “three years Meghan and Harry met this billionaire and were seen on their country estate in the Hamptons”?

  14. Over it says:

    Harry and Meghan have no class, they should be hanging with pedos and uncles who do drugs and hit their wives and mother in laws who have pot plantations. And how dare you make friends Harry and Meghan? Don’t you know that we the media didn’t approve of this for you?

  15. beff says:

    They’ll lose their everloving f*cking minds when they find out that the Guthy’s opened a brew pub in Asheville, NC, called “Wicked Weed”.

  16. Grumpier than thou says:

    Meghan makes ladies hair fall out shocker!

  17. Well Wisher says:

    This second article about the private jet has reinforced the main thrust of the first: “the only relationships that matters is business”.
    This concept is a blight on healthy social interactions, so needed as a part of wellness.

    The constant deliberate use of “exile” and “stripped of their titles” is not accidential. It adheres to the notion of reinforcement through repetition, especially if the repeated item is not based on the truth. In other words, propaganda.

    • L4frimaire says:

      This is definitely propaganda. They really are manipulative with their language. It’s trying to show that they have control over the Sussexes, which they don’t. How can someone be in exile ( Meghan) in their home country? Also, they keep trying to say everything the Sussexes do has a nefarious or monetary purpose. Meanwhile, the heir to the throne is selling access for honors, Queen funding Andrew’s legal fees, and hiding wealth offshore. Meanwhile the Sussexes are making gains with their actual initiatives and business like Meghan’s “Pearl” production, and Travalyst. Also, the way this paper is tracking and tailing this couple is very disturbing and merits further scrutiny. Apparently, the ruler of Dubai was found to be spying on his ex-wife Princess Haya using spyware technology. I would not be remotely surprised if with the UK tabloids or the Royal households are trying the same thing with the Sussexes

    • BothSidesNow says:

      You are exactly right Well Wisher! They are tying to keep the narrative negative, to drive up the and keep the hatred, so they are creating fantasies upon fantasies, it’s the only play they have.

    • Lorelei says:

      @WellWisher, once again, they’re trying to push two competing narratives and don’t see the hypocrisy. They have been whining and bitching CONSTANTLY since the Sussexes left; how selfish they were to do it, how could Harry do this to the Queen??!, they blindsided the entire family, Harry’s walking away = he doesn’t value duty, etc. etc.

      But then they use the word “exile,” which implies that *they* forced Harry and Meghan out; that it was the decision of the BRF, not H&M’s decision…do they not know what the word “exile” means? Actually—now that I’m thinking about it, they likely keep using it because as you said, it “sounds” worse, and it gives the impression that they still have any control over the Sussexes (lmao). They’re counting on the fact that their main audience of faithful readers won’t know the difference, and they’re probably right. Fail readers, all put together, are dumber than a bag of hair.

  18. MsIam says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they paid to use that location for filming the interview just like the company leases the plane when its not in use. Its done all the time in the industry, just like when Harry and James Cordon visited the house that was used for filming Fresh Prince. Leave it to the Daily Mail to make a mountain out of a molehill to appear to be in the know.

    • Snuffles says:

      Excellent point. It could be just a business transaction for use of the home and rental of the plane.

  19. Lizzie says:

    I wonder if this guy is more controversial than pedo Andrew? Hmmm? Poor attempt at diversion.

  20. Izzy says:

    In other words, really rich people also rent out their estates and Guthy probably rented his out for the Oprah interview.

    • L4frimaire says:

      I recently listened to Oprah’s interview with CBS following the Sussex interview and she said she filmed it at a friends house but said she wouldn’t disclose who it was. The Queen of Montecito knows a lot of people so maybe this was the place Harpo productions used for the interview, maybe it wasn’t, Remember when the Sussexes did the podcast with Teenager Therapy, they did that interview also at another house that did not belong to them. I don’t recall if they disclosed who owned that either, or if they thought Meghan would do a beauty line with that person. They really are still so shook by the NYC trip and are dying to know what their next steps are.

  21. Eurydice says:

    The Daily Mail can exclusively reveal – they even brought Meghan’s mother along! OMG!!

    I suppose H&M should have meetings with more proper people as do the RF – like Idi Amin, Assad, Mugabe, Ceausescu, King of Bahrain, the Saudi RF and…let’s throw Hitler into the mix as well…

  22. L4Frimaire says:

    Wow they are really tracking this couple and everything they do and everyone they know, and they know a lot of people. As Gayle said, Harry and Meghan know people. Also, Meghan knows lots of cosmetics people and anyone of them would be willing to back her if she wanted to start a line. I think they should hang out with a different millionaire/billionaire every week just to keep it interesting for these stalker tabloids.

  23. Theothermia says:

    😂 DM always with the ex-lover vibes

  24. Chelsea says:

    It’s funny how desparate they are for a new Harry and Meghan story but I’m curious: did they look into who owned the private jet that the Cambridges used to fly to Northern Island last week? Shouldn’t be too hard since the private in NI literally tweeted out pictures of them there the same day William dropped his Earthshot book though i must have missed all of the headlines calling him a hypocritical “eco warrior”.

    I usually try to ignore the double standards but it annoys me to no end that there are sections on both Harry and Meghan’s wikipedia pages talking about the few times theyve taken private jets claiming the criticism is in line with hits taken by members of the RF but there isno reference on William’s page about his private jet use or excessive helicopter where is lauded for being an environmentalist.

  25. Julia K says:

    Guthy Renner could be collaborating with Meghan on the Smart Works project to assist women in the use of makeup before job interviews. Just another layer to previous established causes that she supports. Doris could be of use here as well, consultant perhaps?

  26. Rare0217 says:

    Haters gon hate

  27. blunt talker says:

    The poster Both/Sides Now-stated it perfectly-the British tabs are trying to keep a negative spin on the Sussexes because they don’t have anything else to talk about on them-they have no narrative or story just lies and inferences with tiny bits of so called information-If they are not in on the actual tranactions they make up bullshit. Keep them guessing Meghan and Harry.

  28. LesRob says:

    They are former royals and were stripped of their titles? Who’s going to tell the DM those things never happened?

  29. luluminnie says:

    You need friends when the Royal family is after you… Hahaha. Was reading another article on here about how the Scotland Choo Choo Tour was really bc the Royal Family wants to keep Scotland under UK control and how they don’t pay taxes on their Balmoral estates. If this is true that is despicable. Pay your taxes, just like the rest of the population.