Sen. Gillibrand invited Duchess Meghan to the Senate ladies’ dinner in DC

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle attend an event at Millennium Point to celebrate International Women's Day in Birmingham on 8th March 2018

As we discussed, the Duchess of Sussex began cold-calling Republican senators on their private lines this week. Politico initially got the scoop, with a few senators (like Maine’s Susan Collins) confirming to news outlets that they had received calls from Meghan. The calls were about paid family leave, an issue which Republicans have been trying to kill for years. Different deals are being worked on, and New York’s Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand has one proposal, and she was the one in touch with Meghan initially. Gillibrand, as it turns out, was the one to give her colleagues’ phone numbers to Meghan. The British media and a handful of Republican douchebro congressmen are very triggered at the fact that Meghan “used her title,” aka her married name, during the calls. Well those crybabies are about to wet themselves with this:

In a furious dash to ensure a universal paid leave policy — however small — makes it into the final version of a care package weaving its way through Congress, the Democratic legislators who have advocated for the policy for years are trying everything — including working with the Duchess of Sussex.

Meghan recently called Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, who in 2013 proposed her own paid leave bill, and expressed her desire to help. Last month, Meghan wrote a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Leader Chuck Schumer as an “engaged citizen and parent” who recently gave birth to her second child, Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor, with Prince Harry. Leave for their family was essential to provide the best care they could for their daughter, she wrote, but it’s a benefit most Americans go without.

When Gillibrand and the duchess spoke, the senator offered to give her the numbers of her Republican colleagues, including Sens. Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia, Susan Collins of Maine and others. They received direct calls from Meghan.

“I could hear how sincere she was about advocacy,” Gillibrand told The 19th.

Gillibrand said she plans to invite Meghan to Washington, D.C., for a bipartisan dinner she is hosting in the coming month with all the women senators, a tradition Vice President Kamala Harris restarted this year, to give her a platform to discuss paid leave. Gillibrand said Sen. Deb Fisher, a Republican from Nebraska, told her she is “delighted and looking forward to that conversation.”

Working with Meghan on advocacy is one piece of a larger concerted effort that has largely been focused on helping to bring Sen. Joe Manchin, the most vocal holdout on paid leave, on board with some version of the proposal that this week is back in contention after seeming all but dead in the water just a week ago.

[From The 19th]

I forgot that all of the lady senators used to have at least one dinner together every year and that the tradition stopped at some point. Senators used to do Secret Santa too, but I think that stopped as well. Anyway, I look forward to Meghan turning up in DC for the women’s dinner. I hope she continues to call all of the senators and apply all of the pressure she can. As for the British peeps who are super-salty about an American citizen using her married name to advocate for a bipartisan issue which will provide relief to families of every race, economic status and political party, I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe those dudes simply would have been engorged with rage that a Black woman was doing and saying anything?

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  1. Harla says:

    I love that Madame Duchess is engaging with people where they are, which might not be where she is but she’s willing to engage nonetheless. Go Madame Duchess!!!

    • MMadison says:

      I’m going to start calling her Meghan, Duchess of Sussex….just because Salty Island goes into complete meltdown.

      • JMoreno says:

        Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. I’m here for it!

      • harla says:

        I just loved that the reporter called her Madame Duchess so that’s what I use now but anything that shows respect for her and causes a Salty Isle meltdown is great by me 🙂

      • Chica says:

        It’s Meghan, THE Duchess of Sussex.
        That “the” is instrumental to distinguishing that she’s a married woman and not a divorcee.

      • joan says:

        If it were not for salty island there would be no Dutchess of Sussex.

      • joan says:

        Salty island is a hoot…so are people going around with out dated titles…Vivre la republique…….

  2. Lizzie says:

    Chuck and Bill preaching to politicians in Scotland, did they drop their titles? Hmmm? It’s her title to use or not but the dm lives to tell Meghan what to wear, say and do.

    • OriginalLala says:

      I think she should use her name and title whenever she pleases but you’re comparing apples to oranges. Scotland is part of the United Kingdom with the Queen as head of state, the US fought a bloody war of independence to have no ties to the UK or the Queen as their head.

      • Chloe says:

        @originallala: like this post pointed out: meghan, the duchess of sussex is her legal name. It quite literally IS her name upon marrying harry. So what she should just stop using her name now? She’s an American citizen and can advocate for causes in HER country.

        @lizzie: Meghan could say the sky is blue and the DM will call her a liar and say its pink. Meghan could claim the sky is pink the week after and the DM will then turn around and say that its blue. My point: when its comes to the DM and it’s ilk Meghan can’t do anything right. She might as wel just live her life.

      • OriginalLala says:

        @Chloe, please read what I wrote.. I literally said I think she should use her name and title whenever she wants, and then explained to the OP why comparing titles usage in the UK and the US isn’t a fair comparison, and you just come at me like I’ve personally attacked M.

      • Haya says:

        I don’t care what name she uses, but it’s getting annoying to see that people seem convinced this her legal married name, therefore the only way she can present herself.

        Yesterday, I pointed out in a comment that Duchess is a styling, just the same as Prince or Princess. They are allowed to use them, but it’s not the same as a legal first and last name.

        Yes they might be on official paperwork in the UK, but that’s because they’re allowed to style themselves that way. The use of those names is entirely optional for royals. They just like using them because I guess what’s the point in being royal, without a title? It sets you apart from everyone else.

        Is it legally her name? Yes, if she wants it to be. Does she have a first name and a surname? Yes she does, and she can use that too, if she wants to.

      • ADS says:

        @OriginalLala, The point is, her title IS her name. I get that you – and many others may not really understand that, but the DM definitely does. They do call her Meghan Markle – same as they occasionally refer to Kate as Kate Middleton, but both are wrong. One is Duchess f Sussex and the other is Duchess of Cambridge. That’s how titles work in the UK. I feel (as a black Brit) that it is obvious it galls some people (not referring to you at all here because you’ve not said anything to indicate you feel this way) that a black woman is a duchess. The same it galls some of them that a black women is very wealthy. This is much more of an issue here in the UK than in the US. You guys are much less unhinged, but there has been a slight element of “who does she think she is” with some discussing her name. And the answer is she thinks she is the Duchess of Sussex. And she is right.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Haya, if she used Mountbatten-Windsor as a surname she be attacked as well. Might as well use her official married name, which is The Duchess of Sussex.

      • Maria says:

        She’s not using it as a representative of the British monarchy. So it’s fine.
        No, it’s not the only way to present herself. Would you prefer Princess Henry? If it’s her name why shouldn’t she use it?
        Tempest in a teapot.

      • Nic919 says:

        Going to point out again the 1960 Privy Council formal declaration that all of Philip’s descendants can use the surname Mountbatten- Windsor if they are not styled with a title.

        Harry has a title as does Meghan through marriage. So it is her married name.

        We really shouldn’t be debating talking points that the hate accounts are putting out there in force. Does anyone care if Lady Gaga interacts with politicians using her made up name? No. She’s American, Meghan is American. The end.

      • BABSORIG says:

        @Haya, it’s “annoying”? Why? Because people say Duchess of Sussex is her married name you get “annoyed”? At something like that? Jeeze, talk about OTT reactions. The drama people create about meaningless stuff is just weird!!

      • Haya says:

        @nosugarhere, she probably would be attacked either way, and in the end, the name she chooses to use is up to her. Its just that Duchess of Sussex is no more an “official” name than Meghan Mountbatten Windsor. In fact I think the latter might be more official, depending on how you define it. The former is recognised in the UK, but people around the world have a first and last name.

        Technically British royal titles probably shouldn’t carry any weight outside of the UK, but I’m guessing they do. Like royalty from any country seem to use their title abroad, even when those countries don’t have monarchies themselves.

        @Babsorig, no it’s annoying that people keep repeating that it’s her legal name, as though it’s now her only option, and anyone who questions it’s use is being ridiculous.

        I don’t think being annoyed at seeing misinformation constantly being repeated is an OTT reaction. I never said I was angry, or outraged. Just annoyed.

        I’m actually curious about whether Harry and Meghan are able to use their British stylings on official documents in the US, or whether they’d have to stick with first and last names?

      • Priscilla says:

        Americans can legally name themselves anything they want. USA does not confer aristocratic titles nor legally recognized them. However, an American could legally name themselves Queen of Sheba or King Arthur if they wanted to and it would just be their name and no one would care. It is only the Brits who have a problem with Meghan using her married name. Notice that the American media aren’t carrying on about it because they know the American public don’t care what people call themselves. We have bigger problems to deal with, like trying to get paid leave for all passed.

      • AlwaysLate says:

        Well indeed the singer Prince had a title as his first name. It’s an odd thing to say people don’t care, because if they didn’t, why even use names like that? It’s clearly means something to some people.

        I think the question was more about whether they can use British titles on documents, rather than just a first and last names. I’m not sure, but I’d imagine is has to match official paperwork, which gets complicated when things are supposed to fit into neat little boxes these days.

        I get that making out that Duchess of Sussex is her name and only option is misleading. Indeed there do seem to be plenty of people on here who believe that. I don’t know for sure, but it seems like these titles are more akin to job titles. Like saying you’re a director, or CEO, rather than your actual name. It’s weird that you’re then allowed to put that on official paperwork in the UK and seems rather precious.

        Still, how many people honestly would not use a title if they were given an option? It’s all well and good to say it’s royal and that’s bad for so many reasons, but I think most people would still like the association, if they’re being completely honest.

      • GraceB says:

        @Nic919 I think you’re misinterpreting how that bit of information you pulled up was written. There’s plenty of articles explaining it. All of Philips decedents have the surname Mountbatten Windsor, but if they have titles, or styles, they’re able to use them instead. It’s not that they have to use them, when they’re given them. I think that’s what people are confused by. It keeps being repeated as though they have no choice in the matter, but actually all the royals have the option. Technically, Kate is Kate Mountbatten-Windsor, but her royal title is the Duchess of Cambridge. I don’t think I’ve ever seen her referred to by her
        name. Another example is the Marquess of Bath. His name was actually Alexander Thynn. It’s such a formal, and British thing to refer to people by their titles, but not accurate to say it’s their name.

      • Sofia says:

        @GraceB: If you’ve got a title, I believe you can actually use it in legal documents like your passport. For example, if you were the Duchess of London, your first name would say “Grace” and your last name would say “Duchess of London” instead of what the family surname is.

        So for many, their titles ARE their name.

    • Lizzie says:

      Yeah, I’m aware that Scotland is part of the UK. My point was ‘using titles’ while preaching to politicians while Meghan used her title while phoning politicians. The daily fail calls the former ‘impactful’ and criticizes Meghan. Typical.

      • Christine says:

        Agreed, it’s typical of them. If the Queen of England comes to the U.S. for a visit, everyone calls her the effing Queen of England, or Her Majesty. That’s the same monarchy that we fought a war to get away from. But sure, Meghan using her title/NAME is beyond the scope of imagining, and we should all be outraged.

        Let’s start a petition to get the Queen’s name changed to Betty Windsor. I would be willing to call her Mrs. Windsor, out of deference to her age.

    • MMadison says:

      They ALL use their title while doing whatever….even Andrew used his title while being a child predator. Apparently Prince Andrew on trial for raping a minor in the USA is ok in the UK but Meghan, Duchess of Sussex fighting for the rights of families in the USA is really bad and she should NEVER use her title in such a manner.

  3. ThatsNotOkay says:

    The Duchess gives her causes her all. Others should take note. This article from the Independent sums it up best:
    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/meghan-markle-republican-senators-call-paid-family-leave-b1951727.html%3famp

    • Lizzie says:

      Thank you for the link.

      • LBB says:

        I am also divorced and kept my married name to match my children. I am now newly remarried but still kept my first husbands name. But after my last kiddo is out of school I am changing it.

        Sorry ! I replied in the wrong space.

    • Meghan says:

      I was about to say that she seems like the kind of person who would be giving this all her support even if she wasn’t a Duchess and didn’t have insane connections. She would still be whole-heartedly supporting this even if she was Meghan Markle from Suits. This is important to her and heck yeah she is going to use the influence she has to support this and hopefully get it passed. She’s just way more classy than me because I would do it wearing a tiara.

      I kept my married last name in the divorce and I use it because it is MY NAME. I even get irrationally upset when people don’t capitalize a certain letter in the name and I’ve only had it for 6 years. My God let the woman use her name!

      • hoopjumper says:

        Meghan was absolutely doing woman-focused advocacy when she was on Suits. You’re totally right, this is who she is, and I am so happy she can use her voice.

      • Cessily says:

        I feel the same, had my birth name until 18 then 30+ years my married name, when the divorce happened I kept my married name I earned it and the fact that wife 2 has the same first name not my problem. He lost his legal argument to force me to change it also.

      • L4frimaire says:

        Friends of ours are divorcing and the wife is keeping her married name because she wants the same last name as her kids and she’s been known professionally by her married name. I find it very tedious people getting hung up on Meghan using her married title, when her very much attached husband is right there. If she started going by Meghan Markle for everything, there would be a stink about that as well abd they’d say she was disrespecting Harry. I think for some people, the use of titles, regardless, may bring out some 1776 feelings, but the majority getting upset about it are the same people who didn’t want her with the title in the first place and we’ve seen how that has played out. It’s a tired argument and an ill-intentioned one.

      • Lady D says:

        @Cessily, You and the new one have the same first and last name? I think that’s hilarious, I’d laugh about that all the time. The fact that he lost his attempt to force you to change it, is the icing on the cake.

      • bettyrose says:

        Meghan was always working towards being someone with the name recognition to make a real impact, a la Angelina Jolie. She was trying to make that name recognition through her acting career, but in a weird twist she ended up as a member of the BRF. So she’s making use of the name she now has to do the work she’s always aspired to. I might side-eye that if she’d married for the name, but it’s so clear she and Harry are true partners with aligned goals (and no one in their right mind would endure what she has if they weren’t truly in love).

      • dreamchild says:

        I kept my last married name as well for a couple reasons. One, I liked his last name better than mine, two, my kids had the same name and 3, when his attorney at his suggestion asked me to give it back I asked was what was I going to get back. A new vagina since I had used mine to push out our children? There was no more pushback. lol

    • TQ says:

      100% agree @ThatsNotOkay! Go Meghan!

    • superashes4 says:

      Thanks for the link, that was a fun read

    • BothSidesNow says:

      Thanks for the link @ ThatsNotOkay!! At least they were very supportive and commend her for trying to make a difference!

  4. Chloe says:

    I hope she goes!!

    • BothSidesNow says:

      So do I!! They will be just as enchanted and mesmerized as we are!! Go get then Duchess of Sussex!!! Yes!!!!

      And please call Manchin, that lazy POS do-nothing Senator!!

  5. Miranda says:

    There’s another member of the RF who is essentially trying to use his title and position to get away with raping a child. The Duchess of Sussex’s haters can sit the fuck down.

    • Seaflower says:

      +1

    • MMadison says:

      @Miranda: I made the same comment above. I agree. There is NO outrage in the UK that Prince Andrew is on trial for rape in the USA yet Meghan, Duchess of Sussex fighting for families in the USA is a misuse of her title. Salty Island is perfectly ok with a Prince title being associated with rape.

      • Becks1 says:

        They literally use his title in the court filings defending the lawsuit and yet all these people insisting “Meghan should use Mountbatten Windsor” dont seem to have an issue with that.

      • Andrew's Nemesis says:

        Completely untrue, MMadison (thanks for misrepresenting my nation yet again). The public is up in arms over Andrew. He has vanishingly few supporters. He was disliked as a general rule before the revelations of his sickening abuse of a minor trafficked victim came out and since then, there have been strident calls for him to be stripped of his dukedom, and disgust and naked hatred has been displayed all over the place (even on rightwing tabloid comment boards). The Queen, in giving him money to pay his legal fees and thus abuse Virginia still further, has also been getting an awful lot of heat. #AbolishtheMonarchy has been doing the rounds regularly. Perhaps you should pay a little more attention to what is actually happening, not what you think/wish is happening.

    • Maria says:

      I do not understand the title debate at all. If the talking point is that her title means nothing in the US, why do people care if she uses it or not? There’s no logic to this argument at all. (Well, we know why they care, but you know what I mean)

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ Andrew’s Nemesis, I am so happy to hear your words!! It’s wonderful that a majority of your country is not going to take Andy the Pedo sitting down!! It’s amazing what happens when people join forces to strike out against abhorrent behaviour!!! May you all join together and shout out victory, should these calls be followed through!!!

        My heart goes out to all of you given the ongoing trouble with the lack of necessary goods.

    • MMadison says:

      @Andrew’s Nemesis: Sorry I should have said Salty Island instead of the UK. You live in the UK. Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex haters live on Salty Island.

  6. Hoopjumper says:

    Holy cats, could this work?!?! I think Gillibrand is being very strategic here, and Meghan has true star power and a gift for advocacy. I wonder what else they’re cooking up to move this forward. It’s actually getting my hopes up.

  7. Ginger says:

    I’m proud of her for doing this. I got barely any maternity leave with my kids and it was very hard. I hope she goes to the dinner as well.

    • BothSidesNow says:

      @ Ginger, I am as well. Duchess of Sussex is such a strong, compassionate and empathetic woman. Madame Duchess is an advocate and she will deliver as we know she is very well versed in any cause that she takes up!!

  8. Becks1 says:

    It’s because people have been brainwashed by the evils of socialism and the promise of “bootstraps” and the american dream. If your job doesn’t give you enough paid leave, well go find another one! If you were better educated, a better worker, more committed, it shouldn’t be an issue to find another job, there are lots of jobs out there, go out and find one!!!!! The government can’t tell private companies what to do, you don’t have to work there if you don’t like it, go somewhere else!!!! And some variation of that, rinse repeat, and people really do think that this is how it is.

    I find the criticism about Meghan speaking out about this issue from the UK kind of funny/ironic considering the UK does give new mothers guaranteed paid leave. Meghan is advocating for something that almost every other country in the world already has.

    Now to be fair that’s not every job, I work for the federal government and our leave policies are absurdly generous, and what’s nice about the government is that there is a wide range of jobs – I work with some people who have phDs and some people who did not go to college, and while that affects your pay or job potential, it does not affect your leave, health benefits, etc. And some states offer paid family leave or broader protections than others. but it is not universal by any means.

    • Miranda says:

      “And some states offer paid family leave or broader protections than others. but it is not universal by any means.”

      I think this is a detail that is often missed by non-Americans. Sometimes, you really have to think of the US as a perpetually feuding clusterfuck of 50 different countries.

  9. Miranda says:

    For far, far too many Americans (and let’s be real: it’s mostly WHITE Americans), the response to what should be regarded as basic human rights (universal healthcare, paid leave for both parents, fair working conditions etc.) would be “BUT SOCIALISMMMMM!” All that Cold War brainwashing and fear-mongering was very effective. There’s also the sad fact that many Americans don’t care about whatever social class they consider beneath them. It’s the very Victorian mindset of poverty as moral failure. They don’t believe that it could ever happen them, and in the event that it does, they scapegoat foreigners or other races. It’s never the massively unfair and deliberately unequal system itself that’s causing the problems.

    • BothSidesNow says:

      @ Miranda, yes!!! Socialism is gone!! And it’s always those in the higher wage bracket who have absolutely no empathy for those “below” them. We offer free medical insurance, partial paid dental, 4 weeks paid maternity and full 4% match on your 401k contributions of 4%, and we are a small business. If WE can afford it, so can the top 500 companies!!

  10. Becks1 says:

    I would love for her to go to that dinner – first, because she is a powerful advocate and I think it would be an important step for the paid leave movement, but second because I am petty and I know how they are going to react across the pond and it will be glorious, lol.

    • MMadison says:

      Becks1: The meltdown will be EPIC

    • swirlmamad says:

      With you totally on this. LOL!

    • Merricat says:

      Lol, I totally agree.

    • Amy Bee says:

      @Becks1: Oh, the outrage will be fantastic, if Meghan goes to DC.

    • Lizzie says:

      Well that’s something to look forward to. I predict this is just the type of thing that the COP26 embargoed pic’s were held back for. Meghan will do something impactful so they will release new pic’s of Kopy Kate and her jazz hands at a COP26 function. IF the embargoed events actually happened.

    • nina says:

      In the mean time Keen is sent home in disgrace for acting like a damn fool, shoving containers of bugs in people’s faces and laughing like a hyena. Go Meghan Go!

  11. Brit says:

    I love it and I’m glad she didn’t change for that horrid institution. It bothers the BM and her detractors that nothing is stopping her and Harry. At this point, they’re desperate for her to react and give them attention. All that abuse, blackmail and harassment from the media and her trashy family has amounted to nothing. I imagine people behind the scenes are pulling their hair out and raging because Harry and especially Meghan are thriving and not falling for the BS. It must really anger them to their core.

  12. Sofia says:

    Oh if she goes, the meltdowns will be nothing short of GLORIOUS!

  13. Seaflower says:

    It has been a long drawn out process but the US got rid of most unions years ago and from what I understand have made membership/collective bargaining pretty much illegal in many industries. But its the same for their voting rights and health care costs. I don’t understand it either.

    • Miranda says:

      And for extra irony, many of the people who are vehemently opposed to unions today are the descendants of the workers who fought so hard to establish them in the first place. I used to work with a woman who was originally from Kentucky, where her family had been miners for generations. People often forget what a violent struggle the early unionizers faced, but her family experienced it firsthand because 2 of her great-uncles were actually murdered by anti-union activists. She became a teacher, and a few years ago, her school district went on strike. Her father — who lost 2 uncles, remember! — called her a communist and stopped speaking to her for over a year (which she liked so much that she eventually made it permanent).

    • BothSidesNow says:

      @ Seaflower, I was so sad when they failed to unionize that Amazon warehouse in Alabama, I think it was Alabama. A majority of the employees are African American and if any company should be held to higher standards, it’s Amazon. Their track record for employees is criminal.

    • dreamchild says:

      After 9/11 I was working for Delta airlines in Atlanta GA. We had been trying for a Union and at the time was the only major carrier that didn’t have one. Because of the disruption caused by 9/11, Wall Street swoped in and took over leadership. They cracked down hard on the effort to deny us the Union. They had a employee wide meeting and the CEO made an “oh so generous” offer to forgo his salary for one year. He was already making an outrageous sum and had a golden parachute. Those unbelievably stupid mostly southerners cheered his sacrifice and voted down the Union. The first change they made was to withdraw the 1% yearly salary bonus that was distributed to every employee systemwide no matter your position and shared the bonus with the 20 top executives! Everything went downhill from salary and vacation times to withdrawing health care support. That was the beginning of what’s happening now in America and the workers just rolled over.

  14. Woke says:

    Are there other women invited to the senators dinner ? The optics would be bad if Meghan was the only one not a senator invited when I’m sure others advocates more qualified on the subject exist. And it’s not a criticism of Meghan I think she is right to use her platform to amplify this subject.

    • Erica says:

      I was wondering the same thing. I hope that more senators invite literal working mothers, mothers that barely makes ends meet, etc Again, not criticizing Meghan.

    • MsIam says:

      Its not bad optics. Its a private dinner that Gillibrand is hosting, not a congressional hearing. I’m sure there are senators there that want to specifically meet Meghan, not hear her testify.

  15. Catherine says:

    Only one of the senators ( capito ) who was called raised the issue of Meghan introducing herself as the Duchess of Sussex. She also lied and said she didn’t know how Meghan got her number and was shocked that she called. Senator Gillibrand very quickly addressed that and explained that she had given Meghan the Senators AND she herself had called them to let them know that Meghan would be calling. The other senator who spoke out is the same one who lost his mind last year when the Sussexes talked about voting. He got dragged and dismissed online when people revealed (1) his connection to the DM reporter who wrote the story (2) the fact that the DM the story and a copy of his letter if protest before he sent it to UK ambassador and ( 3 ) he had never raised any issue with Russian interference in the 2016 election. So his faux protest got very little traction this time around even in the UK tabloids.

  16. Over it says:

    Next time Meghan makes a call or introduces herself to anyone, she should simply say, hi I am madame duchess, prince Harry wife, daughter in law of princess Diana, daughter in law of price Charles and grand daughter in law of queen Lizzy. Let’s see how these douches like them apples.

  17. Polo says:

    Some people are gonna have to get over her using HER OWN NAME because she ain’t stopping. There’s much bigger issues to fry. Seriously get over it..it’s been almost 2 yrs now of this conversation anytime Meghan advocates for anything.
    I said yesterday that the outrage machine has died down. If this was last year Meghan would be trending for days with peoples irrational takes.
    I glad more people are finally accepting that Meghan Duchess of Sussex will continue to use her voice to help elevate worthy projects and issues. Keep yelling into the abyss haters less and less people are listening.
    Paid leave is also very popular so they can’t attack the idea because who doesn’t benefit from paid leave instead they attack something minuscule like her name. Byeee

  18. Amy Bee says:

    Meghan was supposed to leave the UK, never use her title again, remain silent, be ostracised by Americans and fail financially. None of these things have happened and that’s why the British press is angry every time she does something. Furthermore, the agreement was that she was not allowed to use HRH which she abides by so the press have no right to be upset that she’s calling herself the Duchess of Sussex. That’s her name. In fact, the Palace chose to delete her first and middle names from Archie’s birth certificate so she’s just following their rules. Another thing, when Edward VII abdicated he was made the Duke of Windsor and was sent abroad, the British press are off base to demand that Meghan should not use her title.

    • Brit says:

      They want her to lose everything all because she didn’t kiss their behinds and give them access to make them feel special. They’re upset the United States doesn’t care enough to ostracize her and Harry to force them back in the RF. It’s desperation and the more Harry and Meghan keep thriving and ignore them, they’ll keep trying to destroy them.

  19. Izzy says:

    She should call the men too. And describe for them in excruciating detail what it’s like to push an actual person out of your body through your vagina, and then ask them how they think a few weeks should be enough recovery time and which medical experts told them that…

    • Andrew's Nemesis says:

      Good call, Izzy. After all, they’re always the first to meddle with the state of our uteruses and their potential inhabitants; perhaps they should get a little taste of just how much it hurts being female…

  20. Murphy says:

    Meghan is really impressing me, she is walking the walk. I wouldn’t be surprised if she ended up a senator some day.

    • Giddy says:

      Or an ambassador. She would be a great ambassador to the U.N. where she could advocate for so many of the causes she believes in. The fact is that she and Harry have star-power, and are a power couple extraordinaire. They both have the intelligence and the energy to advocate for their many causes.

    • lanne says:

      Let her become the ambassador to the UK. That would be EPIC!!!!

    • Monica says:

      She could very well if she sees it as a way to further her mission, but I kinda hope she doesn’t. Politics in the USA is a sewer and the system is broken.

  21. ABritGuest says:

    Go ahead Madame duchess! Hope she goes to the dinner with other Paid Leave activists & hope it proves effective. I work with many US colleagues who are always amazed by how much leave we have in Britain.

    So this title thing is interesting. I personally wish she wouldnt introduce herself as DOS for this type of work which is already going to be controversial just because of who she is but if we are keeping it real what the hell are the royals doing at things like cop26 if they aren’t trying to lobby attendees and influence policies home and abroad?

    When Charles is calling for a global Marshall plan for the environment or sitting down with Donald Trump during his state visit to discuss environment after Trump pulled out of the Paris climate treaty isn’t that using his position & title to influence policies in the US?

    People who divorced their royal husbands were/are still referred to by their stylings whether in commercial or humanitarian work which requires political follow up eg Fergie with her books or Diana with her landmine campaign

    • Charm says:

      @AbritGuest: “So this title thing is interesting. I personally wish she wouldnt introduce herself as DOS for this type of work which is already going to be controversial just because of who she…”

      On the contrary, M should continue to use her married name on all her documents and statements as frequently as she wishes (which she already does) and introduce herself as ‘The Duchess of Sussex’ as loudly and as frequently as there are folks out there who still need to know (nevermind that its no one’s business but H&M’s).

      This racist double standard thats applied to the first mixed race woman in the BRF, no matter how adroitly stupid racists think theyre obfuscating the core reason for their objections to her, will be loudly and forcibly pushed back on.

      • ABritGuest says:

        Just to be clear I don’t have an issue with her using the title I just knew it would become the focus rather than the important goal she is advocating for & easy way for press etc to attack her. But to be fair can’t expect fairness from people who linked her serving avocado on toast to drought and murder so carry on duchess!

      • June-O says:

        The people making her title an issue are in the wrong and most intend to distract from the issue. Meghan is using her name and it shouldn’t even be a story.

    • Lizzie says:

      There is literally no one else who has been asked to drop a title ‘at times’, whether lady, lord, duke or duchess. No, it’s only the Sussex. There is no reason whatsoever to not user her title. They agreed not to use HRH for work but they never said they were no longer to use Duke and Duchess.

    • Nyro says:

      You need to ask yourself why this woman using her own name rubs you the wrong way.

  22. Case says:

    Meghan is genuinely dedicated and proves that time and time again. I admire her commitment to advocacy so so much.

    And on a petty note, I hope Meghan, who the British press called a mere “celebrity” who was going to “fail” alongside Harry in America, goes to this dinner!

  23. MA says:

    It makes no sense for anyone to be mad about her using her titles especially the Brits. This is THEIR system. It’s incredibly racist, they can’t stand that she “benefits” from their system so that she’s ranked above the plebes. Let’s not pretend it’s anything other than that.

    • Charm says:

      Thank you!
      Led by the brits and replicated by racists everywhere, its the persistent application of the racist double standard to the first mixed-race member of the UK RF and their juvenile attempt to constantly move the goalpost whenever their racist double standard is pointed out.

    • Sofia says:

      I agree. If Americans want to be upset about, they can and that is their choice but British royal reporters (and I say this as a Brit) can’t be upset because this system exists for all and aristos use their titles for everything.

  24. What says:

    Meghan and Harry came out of their meetings with books notes and paperwork, connections.
    Royals-
    Charles has spent all week in Glasgow and has gotten funding for one of his agendas.
    Queen makes a speech to draw sympathy for her husband and to beef up her son and grandson; yet the news was all about the grandson that they hate. Plus she helicopters to her retreat to take a break this weekend when she was already on a Break
    Camilla photo ops and leaves in two days
    Kate photo ops and leaves after one day
    Will photo ops and comes away with nothing for his own agenda but empty drinking glasses and made sure the pictures of him with bezos and Biden was sent out
    Meghan and Harry are playing chess while the royals are playing checkers trying to keep up

  25. What says:

    This is all about control and I highly doubt that they will spend Xmas in the UK. They don’t need the royals anymore and that’s why they and the rota hate the Sussex. They’re trying to put jazz hands couple on they level and they can’t even get thru three days of work. Especially when it counts- that’s why the rota is slowly moving to the kiddos. They’re getting second hand info on California and all they can do is talk after the fact while slowly getting on will and Kate to do better and be out there more. These negative articles-the airport are only a warning that they need to get their act together and get to the world series. However will and Kate can’t even get the tickets to go inside

    • Nyro says:

      Speaking of getting to the kiddos, on one of the rota podcasts this week, the host actually asked how long until George starts working. They need a shiny new object desperately because nothing else can come close to the H&M star power. I won’t be surprised Will and Kate start to really push him out there when he’s still a kid, like 13/14 or something.

      • Charm says:

        I recently saw again an interview H did at the first Obama Summit (2017) when he was interviewed by the fabulous Ms Mellody Hobson (who will be in convo wth M on Tuesday) in which he said his first official event as a ‘working royal’ occurred when he was 4 years old.

      • Nyro says:

        That Obama Summit interview of his had some gems. The question about who comes up with the ideas was revealing. He didn’t want to answer because the truth was clearly that it was all him and that Badly and Waity literally do nothing.

  26. What says:

    This is all about control and I highly doubt that they will spend Xmas in the UK. They don’t need the royals anymore and that’s why they and the rota hate the Sussex. They’re trying to put jazz hands couple on they level and they can’t even get thru three days of work. Especially when it counts- that’s why the rota is slowly moving to the kiddos. They’re getting second hand info on California and all they can do is talk after the fact while slowly getting on will and Kate to do better and be out there more. These negative articles-the airport are only a warning that they need to get their act together and get to the world series. However will and Kate can’t even get the tickets to go inside

  27. BothSidesNow says:

    @ Simone , unnfortunately, a great deal of corporations have senators in their pockets!! They fight on behalf of the those who are AGAINST paying for these benefits, which is disgusting given how hard the average American works everyday! It’s not uncommon to work 50+ hours a week, especially if you are salaried. The USA has some of the worst benefits for employees, health benefits, or contract employees. Corporations are the winners here, not the common American worker. Our health insurance is out of reach, unless you can afford the high out of pocket, plus medication is out of reach as well!! Many Seniors can’t afford their medication, living expenses and food. It’s disgusting how Americans are treated here. From the moment you are born until you die.

  28. nina says:

    I used to live and work in South Africa which has a very generous paid leave and maternal leave policy and no fire-at-will policy. I do miss those perks which they consider basic conditions of employment. And most people consider that a third world country.

  29. Kitten says:

    We live in a barbaric country but most of us either don’t see it or don’t care. It doesn’t help that we continue to support politicians who are too cowardly or too greedy (or both) to push for transformative change. It’s very sad TBH.

  30. Little Red says:

    Think there might be any DC sightings of Madame Duchess?

  31. Jaded says:

    Can you imagine Kate sitting down with the senate ladies and making an utter imbecile of herself? She’d grin and gurn, wave her hands around, laugh like a ninny and talk about how much work it is having 3 kids…then *crickets*. They probably wouldn’t understand her faux-posh accent anyway.

    Cue photos of Keen and Mean and the kids enjoying a happy family day out and about.

  32. tamsin says:

    If Meghan flies to Washington, she will be critcized for flying and being an eco-hypocrite. I imagine she will calculate carefully how much impact she can actually have with the republican women. I believe these dinners are supposed to be “private.”

  33. Theothermia says:

    I find the term “married name” old fashioned and gross… But titles are also old fashioned and gross lol

    I love what Meghan is doing.

  34. Kathleen Doyle says:

    Am I the only one who thinks Rupert Murdoch may be behind the paid Twitter accounts trying to destroy Megan? Fox and the rest of the Murdoch empire went after Hillary Clinton, then AOC and now they’re doing it to Megan.
    Any attractive, smart, and democratic or progressive woman who proves she can get things done and lead they try to destroy. Maybe the DM and other Murdoch owned papers aren’t getting their orders from the palaces but also from Murdoch?

    It’s painful to watch and I wish someone would dig into this further. Fox and Murdoch are destroying and dividing America with their lies. To me it is straight up greed and about controlling our politicians so they don’t pay their fair share in taxes and keep making money playing to people’s fears for the future and their worst instincts. Women are always easier targets and so they go after those that have a big following, are accomplished and charismatic.

    I am glad Megan is using her voice for causes she believes in, that I believe in, we need all the help we can get. Who could be against paid parental leave? It’s foundational for children and their parents. Healthy families are good for our country. But I fear for Megan. I think right wing forces are just gearing up to go after Megan. Her stage is global and that makes her more of a threat.

    • Nyro says:

      Gearing up? They’ve been doing it for five long years now. If anything, it feels like he tide is turning. Harry and Meghan are continuing to live their lives on their own terms while their haters scream into the void. All of the smears and lies are falling on deaf ears and having no effect on H&M’s ability to do good work on the charity end and make big money on the business end. Their trolls are literally being unmasked and called out in the media. The tide is turning and the architects of the smear campaign have lost, they just can’t accept it yet.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        Exactly @ Nyro! Gearing up now would really be putting a foot wrong with the recent investigation going on. The hate/smear campaigns against Meghan/Harry & Meghan have a personal feel to them, not political. Murdoch and his media ownership is probably an active partipant along with the DMGT. Not the ones behind it. Gearing up when major and credible news outlets are watching & reporting, along with other interested parties, at best is foolish.

        It might have been 3/4? months ago, I don’t recall which post it was, someone posted a cryptic/sinister comment about damage being done to H & M and that it would be subtle. My reply was something like that’s what Harvey Weinstein tried/did and look where he is now. Interesting that a name that Toxic Tom threw out in his pulled Australia interview is a name associated with Weinstein and planted stories. Even more interesting(to me at least), an article I came across that associated Christian Jones(who Wootton paid for information on H & M) doing PR work for Weinstein seems to have disappeared from the interwebs. Should have saved it. How nice of Christian Jones to include Will’s Earthshot prize stuff on his linkedin page. It really is a nefarious tangled web. Wealthy Uncle Hookers & Blow (best name by another CB poster) shouldn’t be overlooked either. He didn’t help pay for Kate’s St. Andrew’s education & landing of Will for nothing. My goodness, who does this intelligent, charismatic, hardworking, WOC think she is coming on to the scene and outshining Kate almost immediately. Uncle G is suppose to be an excellent employment recruiter. Wonder if that involves paid trolls? At the end of the day, all the hate/negativity directed towards Meghan doesn’t make her look bad, when pretty much all her actions are for good and have effectively helped others.

        But, sure British Media/rotas/associatied tabloids/haters, prop up someone that’s shoving dead larvae in people’s faces, can’t answer off the cuff questions intelligently and is married to ‘Office Bill’ that asked the harpist at their wedding if she heard his dumb2@ss joke about his brother. The future future King & Queen Consort aren’t bright for the UK, you don’t gotta wear shades.

        p.s. I didn’t even get into Angela Levin’s lies and plagiarism. Yet.

  35. Mslove says:

    I am glad the Duchess of Sussex is advocating for paid family leave here in the states. We need all the help we can get, who thought fighting for basic human rights would be so difficult? My only regret is the racist and cruel pushback she gets, she does not deserve it.

  36. Slippers4 life says:

    Anyone from the UK, please correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that it is only the actual Monarch who must remain politically neutral, not every single person in the UK who happens to have a title. Yes, it’s her name, but I believe titled people ARE allowed to vote and ARE allowed to become involved politically as well. I thought the whole point of a Monarch being made to be politically neutral came from the Magna Carta started as a sort of compromise so that the rebels didn’t overthrow the King at the time and turn England into a republic. (Grade 9 history lol), and it is not a pancea that anyone with a title can’t get into politics. There are people with titles in UK politics all the time. Yes, Duchess of Sussex is her married name, and of course she should use it as she pleases and she isn’t, based to my knowledge, restricted from using that title the same way the Queen is restricted. They will do anything to cut her down. They are so angry that a Black woman has a title.

    • ABritGuest says:

      Yes it’s just the monarch who has the constitutional role and is required to be politically neutral.

      Also funny how when they want to the press call Harry& Meghan ex royals but then when it comes to things like this or when they want them to appear with the royal family- then the press claim Sussexes as part of the royal family & say they need to conform with certain expectations

  37. Agreatreckoning says:

    Very cool for Meghan, Duchess of Sussex.

    I think, Meghan, Duchess of Sussex should stop using her titled name as soon as it can be shown that she’s used it as many times as there have been hateful false tweets and negative false headlines/stories about her.imo Which, I guess will be never.

  38. ML says:

    As an American living abroad: people in my homeland are (I believe) brainwashed into voting against this. Most countries see paid leave, holiday/vacation pay, sick pay, paid time off before and after pregnancy, 4+ weeks holiday/vacation per year, livable minimum wage, clean water, smooth roads, bridges in decent repair, safety in floodzones, etc, etc,… as human rights and are willing to pay for their citizens to have these rights. Many, many US politicians believe that capitalism essentially gives these rights to the people who earn them. Ergo, if you cannot pay for daycare then there must be something wrong with you. Many Americans have 2 measly weeks of paid holiday/vacation per year and see themselves as hard workers as opposed to being taken advantage of. They also believe that instead of human rights, paid leave et cetera is socialist construct, which will undermine capitalism and the world as they know it. Obviously these rights are not socialist (!), but many people in the USA are ignorant and believe what they’re told. In addition, taxes in the US are comparatively low and for rich people (hello, Trump) sometimes actually nonexistent. So, the government does not have the money to ensure the basic human rights available in other developed countries. Americans hear that they may need to pay more taxes, and they do not understand that among other benefits they and the people around them become healthier, better educated, have more time to have fun, etc. So to boil down what I’ve said: Americans do not enjoy the basic human rights that exist in most developed countries because essentially American politicians are really good at false advertising. This is true of just about any Republican and almost all Democrats.

    • Isabella says:

      Americans haven’t been given a chance to vote on family leave. That seems to confuse Europeans in the comments. But we can get it if this bill passes. Congress has the power. We need a federal solution.

      Agree it is overdue and much needed. Thank you, Meghan for giving us hope when it appeared dead in the water.

  39. Lizzie says:

    I always roll my eyes when the trash tabloids mention Meghan running for president. But I’m picturing the President of the United States, The Duchess of Sussex or President Mountbatten Windsor and 10 Downing St ordering the king (Chuck or Bill) to grovel and do it quickly.
    Imagine a years long racist smear campaign waged by the royal family and the victim became POTUS.

    • Chaz says:

      We can all dream in color! Madame Duchess/Meghan as POTUS- I see the appeal which is why the topic keeps people 😊!

  40. Edna says:

    The crazy Meghan haters are swarming Congressional social media accounts attacking Meghan for her advocacy on paid leave. I hope their behavior calls attention to the abuse Meghan’s suffered on Twitter, etc. and Congress starts looking into it.

    • L4frimaire says:

      These people never learn. They attack everyone and swarming Congress may attack secret service attention. They look absolutely unhinged. Meghan is just going about her life advocating for what she believes in.

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      Swarming Congressional social media accounts on an important and relevant subject for the sole purpose of discrediting someone isn’t the brightest of plans. The other night we watched for the umpteenth time, Enemy of the State. It reminded me a lot of the smear campaign against Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. Discredit the person who might know/share something before they actually share something. Harry & Meghan were far more withholding in the Oprah interview than anticipated. What a coincidence that Jason Knauf’s “bullying” allegations against Meghan were dropped after it was known the O interview was going to happen. Nothing shady there. Nope, nope, nope, nothing to see there.

  41. Bettyrose says:

    Simone – I never understood it either until I read the book White Trash, which I highly recommend if you’re truly interested (or even just read reviews of it). It details 400 years of cultivating a white underclass to be foot soldiers for the ruling elite. It’s been very effective and continues to have a an impact in the structure of our public schools and very much our elections. (Any old timers on here might recognize that I’ve promoted this book a few times. I swear I’m not involved with it in any way but it was really eye opening for me and in the 5 years since I first read it I haven’t encountered anything as well researched on this particular topic).

  42. aftershocks says:

    ^^ The ‘bullying’ allegations were in fact launched when KP heard about the Oprah interview, before it aired. Knauf’s claims of ‘bullying’ against Meghan landed with a thud, as the people who know Meghan well immediately fought back on social media, debunking the claims.

    Plus, it was so obvious that the claims were being put out publicly, so far after-the-fact, in order to try and force M&H to cancel airing of the Oprah interview. The firm even used Philip’s hospitalization to try and get the interview delayed or dropped. None of that worked.

    The interview aired, and the firm had to take their medicine in karmic fashion. And, as we know, M&H had even held back on telling the worst, and did not attach specific names to things that had been said to them (aside from Meghan rightly, yet carefully and also kindly, setting the record straight regarding the ‘making Kate cry’ falsehoods).

    The false ‘bullying’ allegations were slowly backtracked, with attempts by the firm to get Meghan to absolve them putting forward the claims! Meghan responded by having her attorneys flex their muscles, and by demanding specific proof and accountability from the claimants. The firm is still trying to backtrack and to bury Knauf’s and KP’s utter nasty smearing.