NYT: The ‘majority’ of British people are ‘fed up’ with Duchess Meghan

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Over the weekend, the New York Times published a story about the Duchess of Sussex and the Mail on Sunday’s appeal hearing. The original headline was “Meghan’s Image, Battered in Britain’s Tabloids, Thrives in US.” They changed it to: “For Meghan, an Image Rendered in a U.K.-U.S. Split Screen.” I wonder why! Could it be that even the NYT pulls their punches about just who “hates” Meghan and batters her? They also pulled their punches with the sub-head: “She has re-emerged in America as a formidable A-list celebrity and social activist. In Britain, however, Meghan remains a polarizing figure.” Ah, yes. A polarizing figure. A quaint term for “the victim of one of the most vile character assassinations of the past twenty years.” Some highlights from this NYT story:

Polarizing: In Britain, however, Meghan remains a polarizing figure. She is admired by some, particularly the young, for having brought a breath of fresh air into the musty House of Windsor, but reviled by many others, not least the tabloids, which cite her misstatement as evidence of a broader pattern of duplicity and manipulative behavior.

Penny Junor speaks: “The majority of people are fed up, to the back of the teeth, with them,” said Penny Junor, a royal historian. “They said they wanted privacy, but then they never stopped looking for attention. And now, all these months later, we’ve had this discovery that she’s been lying to the court, or failing to remember.” None of this particularly matters in the United States, Ms. Junor was quick to acknowledge. If anything, the split-screen images of the past week have vindicated the couple’s decision to leave the realm behind.

Injecting herself into politics! Harry and Meghan have been able to control their image much more effectively in the United States than in the tabloid-dominated British media. She has injected herself into the American political debate in a way that would have been inconceivable in Britain, where members of the royal family scrupulously avoid politics.

On successful women: “We tolerate success in this country, but we don’t celebrate it,” Ms. Junor said. “In America, they glorify success.”

[From The NY Times]

Imagine “tolerating” successful people. Imagine your national characteristic being described as “tolerant of success.” Anyway, in case anyone needed reminding, what happened in the UK last week was absolutely bonkers. The Mail on Sunday couldn’t just take the L and walk away, and neither could Prince William, Duchess Kate or Jason Knauf. The future-future king authorized one of his closest aides to turn over curated “evidence” to help a right-wing British tabloid smear and attack his sister-in-law. It was especially crazy to see all of those dusty, angry, success-tolerating people obsess over a woman who left that country in March 2020.

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  1. Maria says:

    Absolutely disgusting. Also, does she think that quote about tolerating success not celebrating it makes her or “them” (as in her vision of Brits) look good?
    Why is this hag going on about “we’re so sick of them!!”? They’re GONE. Move ON. They sure do spend lots of time talking about people they supposedly don’t care about (obviously they do, though, and the success of the Sussexes sickens the saltines).

    • Becks1 says:

      Haha I just said something similar about the “we don’t celebrate success” part.

      But that’s the other thing that I bring up when I engage in the comments (which I need to stop doing) – what has Meghan done that is putting herself in the spotlight? she made two appearances last week in NYC, before that we hadn’t seen her in over a month, and then it was just a few days in NYC again, and then we hadn’t seen her since her birthday on August 4 if I’m remembering correctly, in the video with Melissa McCarthy. So how on earth is she always out there, always asking for publicity, etc. It’s not her fault the british press can’t keep her name out of their mouths.

      • Maria says:

        Yes, comment twins, LOL.

        It’s the same when people say “she can’t stop talking about the Royals!!” when Meghan has literally said nothing since the interview except in her legal case releases.

      • MissMarirose says:

        tbf, the brits qualify that tiny amount of public appearances as a lot of keenness when applied to the DDOC. lol

      • marehare says:

        William and Kate are just jealous of Meghan and Harry, who I really like. Glad they’re here in the US.

      • L84Tea says:

        The BM refuse to acknowledge that THEY put her in the spotlight and then turn around and blame it on Meghan. Meghan is minding her own business, doing her work, and we see her occasionally. Her being plastered all over every British tabloid on a daily basis is their own doing. This crap from them is so frustrating to listen to.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ MissMarirose, ahh yes!! Lest us not forget Kween Laziness in her king-making abilities, never putting a foot out of step and how “fashion forward” she is as she copies Meghan down to the toes! And last but not least, how Kween Laziness is the peace maker for all of The Monarchy!! They do!!! For days upon days, just changing the narrative very slightly in each article.

        Oh Penny, FFS for the good of the country and your sanity, STFU!! How desperate are you?

      • Lorelei says:

        They seem to have no problem celebrating Carole Middleton’s success!

        I can’t count the number of articles I’ve read praising her for being such an ambitious and shrewd entrepreneur. The BRF seemed to enjoy perpetuating that narrative as well, as if they should have received praise for deigning to “let” William marry someone who came from (gasp) middle-class roots.

        The hypocrisy of these people is just staggering.

      • Nan says:

        I think Penny Junor evades the point about Meghan. She actually IS modest and self-effacing about all of her many accomplishments, achievements and successes throughout her life. She’s friendly, accessible, relatable and truly cares about all people, not just rich privileged people. Americans are celebrating her and cheering for her success because she’s an American woman of color who broke the color barrier in the contemporary British royal family. She’s had unique experiences and particular concerns to bring to her role as a working royal, all of which were (and would have continued to be) beneficial to many people who typically get overlooked or excluded. The reality of the situation is that the royal family didn’t want Meghan’s strengths and gifts. They’ve chosen to demonize her and scapegoat her instead. The hilarious thing is that every charge and accusation about Meghan that comes out of their mouths just hangs around them like a stink cloud – the more they speak, the more obvious their desperation is to reiterate their own ugliness. 🤣

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      I’m a Brit and I’m not sick of Meghan. What I am sick of are the embittered, Brexit championing, sewage in water tolerating nut jobs who scream the loudest. The press & RF tried and failed to destroy her so they are using their various mouth pieces and attack dogs again. Brand Uk is forever tarnished. To make matters worse the cash for access royals left behind are simply useless and not up to the job. Britannia will not be ruling any more waves anytime in the nearest future.

      • nina says:

        How do the Brits tolerate this kind of incompetence and lack of services by their leaders. Just the idea of sewage in the water should have them hopping mad and out in the streets demanding their government fix things

      • Mac says:

        @Nina Raw sewage flowing into waterways is a massive problem in the US and has been for decades.

      • Maria says:

        So where’s our British Erin Brockovich? Lol.

      • Jaded says:

        @Nina – we’ve had a terrible time on First Nations reserves in Canada with contaminated drinking water. The Canadian government has violated a range of international human rights obligations toward First Nations persons and communities by failing to remedy the severe water crisis.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ Jaded, I am terribly sorry to hear this news!! The news outlets here in the US haven’t been reporting of these issues. I know the US in the master of stripping and conducting illegal operations across the country, so I have no room to talk. But this is an outrageous crime. I hope that everyone stands up to the Canadian government for a resolution immediately!!

      • nina says:

        @Mac. Yes but we will take our violating agencies and companies to court and have them clean it up. I don’t see the Brits holding anybody’s feet to the fire. And we have the EPA even though in the last few years there has been attempt s to gut the EPA. Has never happened in my area and I drink my water straight from my faucet. So after your whataboutism, what are the Brits doing about it.

    • Merricat says:

      Penny Juror is a bad joke, railing against success and writing her millionth item on how sick Brits are of reading about the Sussexes. Lol. She’s a hairball that the queen coughed up.

      • Lemons says:

        She’s lucky the Sussexes exist because no US-outlet would be asking her for a soundbite/quote for the Cambridges and certainly NOT Charles and Camilla.

      • Mac says:

        @Merricat “She’s a hairball the queen coughed up” is a brilliant description of Juror. Applause.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ Merricat, brava!!! thank you truthfully identifying in what Penny actually is!!!

        Comment of the DAY!!!!

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        LOL..@Merricat! Awesome.

        If they don’t celebrate success then how the f&ck come we’ve been hearing about the effin d*mn Platinum Jubilee for what seems like forever and the reason for everyone to stop everything so they can have a big ol’ party. Is the Jubilee not a celebration of the Queen’s long reign? Or, is Junor trying to tell us, that since they don’t celebrate success then the Queen’s reign really hasn’t been successful? And they’re partying for her lack of success???????

    • Zapp Brannigan says:

      I legit laughed hard at that not celebrating success comment. We are taking about a nation that still prattles on about a football match where they won against Germany in 1966. These people oy.

      • Miranda says:

        A match that Germany, by the way, DOESN’T EVEN CARE ABOUT. They, like Meghan, just live rent-free in the minds of so many British (particularly English) people. My German step-uncle says that they let the English go on about that match because they have so little else to celebrate, it would be cruel to tell them that the rivalry is pretty one-sided. 😂

      • Marion says:

        And the 5-1 qualifying match back in 2001…

    • Gruey says:

      Here’s what I’m starting to wonder about England. Are there actually other celebrities there? It just feels like MH are the only people who exist, like the level of single minded focus is beyond.

      There are so many other stars in the US who constantly become the focus of public attention. Yes, I hear about MH on this site. But, for one example, my TikTok feed this week has all been chatter about Aaron Rodgers, T swift, Astroworld, the Kardashians, and lots of other random semi celebs. Not to mention a lot of people here are a lot more focused on politics. But in England, even a huge celeb like Adele doesn’t get a headline without sharing it with Meghan. I honestly don’t get it.

      • Elizabeth Regina says:

        Some celebrities in the UK have had to flee to the US so they can enjoy their success in peace. It’s tall poppy syndrome. Many Brits hate to see others succeed and like to know they have the power to destroy anyone who gets ‘too big for their boots’. Success reminds some of them that they are going nowhere fast.

      • GRUEY says:

        It’s ironic because mere weeks ago one of these RRs was complaining that Harry doesn’t hang out with good British expats like Adele!

      • lanne says:

        They are also probably sore because in Adele’s Vogue interview, when asked “William or Harry” her answer was “Harry.” You know those salty bitches took that shit personally.

    • MMadison says:

      “We tolerate success not celebrate it”…..This explains a lot about the British People. It really goes to their class system. How sad to live in a country where there is very little expectation to move forward in life and yes celebrate your success. So happy that Meghan has gotten out of that hell hole and Harry must be beside himself to live in a country where we encourage and celebrate his successes with him!

      • Elizabeth Regina says:

        It’s not unnoticed that many celebrities including Diana flee the island for America. The UK has small pond syndrome. You can’t grow above your station.

      • MMadison says:

        100% certain any American who read that article and that ONE statement they became fans of Harry and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex in that moment.

      • Marion says:

        I’m not sure it’s a British-only feeling.
        I am French, and people here “tolerate” success but don’t celebrate it either…
        People here think there’s something suspicious about success and bragging about your success is very “gauche”,show off…
        Lots of people in France still think that celebrating success is very “American”.
        I don’t know if my fellow Europeans feel the same.

      • MMadison says:

        Apparently the meaning of “celebrating success” may be lost in translation. In the USA when we celebrate our successes we aren’t bragging about our success we are acknowledging the hard work and sacrifice that went into achieving success. In our country we believe that every individual has the right to the American Dream and that right should be celebrated.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @MMadison – Perfect USA definition of success.

      • MMadison says:

        @BayTampaBay: Thanks. I believe this maybe an issue of wording. @Marion stated that in France : “People here think there’s something suspicious about success”…..this is my assumption but I don’t think that’s what she met. I could be wrong but I’m hopefully the French aren’t suspicious about success because that would be such an odd statement in the USA.

      • TeamMeg says:

        I never realized how “American” it is to celebrate the idea of “hitting it big”, having a killer idea and making a million, etc. until I met some Swedes who were telling me about a near-forgotten early Christian pilgrimage trail in their country, similar to that one in Spain, with different holy sites you can stop at along the way—what’s the Spanish one called, The Path or something? (There was a movie about it.) Anyway, as soon as they told me about this trail, I jumped straight to—Wow! Somebody could market that! Set up package tours, do a coffee table book to promote it, pilgrims could stay at nice hotels with amazing meals and then hike all day, guides could bring their bags from site to site, etc, etc—essentially figuring out a way to develop this trail into a business. And the Swedes just looked at me like I was from another planet. Nothing like this had ever occurred to them, and the idea didn’t excite them at all, either. Previously, I assumed everyone thought this way! Really a strange moment…and an awakening of sorts, to my American conditioning.

      • MrsBump says:

        Im currently living in Belgium and its the same here too. It’s a different mentality, you don’t need to agree with it, but understanding it comes in handy.
        Here recently the king’s illegitimate daughter Successfully won her paternity case, and people were supportive and happy for her. Now that she wants more visibility such as attending state events and more recently it was reported that she wants to participate in some show and donate the money to charity , public opinion is changing and not in her favour.
        People who put themselves voluntarily in the limelight ( including for charity) are seen as attention seekers, and with regards to royalty, it’s almost as if the only way that unimaginable privilege can be tolerated by the people is if it comes with control, restrictions and sacrifice. The slings and arrows of enormous good fortune if you will.

      • MMadison says:

        TeamMeg and MrsBump: Thank you both. It really helps to get different perspectives on these issues. I must admit I thought surly everyone can see that Harry and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex are working hard to earn their own money and success. It’s shocking to learn that in other parts of the world that this can be seen as negative. IMO, I think that Meghan struggled with living off the people. The American Dream and achieving personal success is something that’s in the blood of most Americans. We believe that each generation should be better than the previous. I must say you’ve given me a lot to think about and consider on this issue.

      • MrsBump says:

        I think the western European attitude shouldn’t be characterised as simply they dont like people to work hard and succeed, it’s more subtle than that, how the success was earned and how it is then projected publicly matter.
        For example, i’m not European but i have lived here for the past 15 years and the idea of monetising the swedish pilgrim journey ( as explained above) shocks me too.
        I find that often, from what ive seen at least, wealth is implied but should not be overly in your face and inviting public attention is rarely if never seen positively. If i take the context of the previous king’s illegitimate daughter as an example : when the actual king or the queen participate in whatever event/charity work, it is seen as their job / duty / their “burden” to carry , when the illegitimate daughter does it, it seems to many like she is profiteering from the situation since there is no obligation for her to do it, and reasons like doing it for a good cause ring hollow. She also fought for the title of princess, and even if she doesn’t receive money from the public , as she is incredibly wealthy via her adopted father, that title is a privilege in itself ( granted by the public as are ultimately all titles) that is worth an enormous amount both in influence and earning potential. So she cannot simply cuts ties with belgium public opinion given her new title is that of Princess Delphine of Belgium literally.

      • Marion says:

        @MMadison: I think I am the one who couldn’t express myself correctly..!! What I meant to say was, when people are successful here in France, talking about your success is very often seen as “bragging”. Even if you owe your success just to yourself, a lot of people here will find it “suspicious”… They will very often try to find a “flaw” in your success or wonder why you are so successful…
        A lot of people here find it hard to be happy for someone else’s acheivements. They won’t tell it straight to your face but most of the time people will call the successful person as “too confident”.
        Just as for MM in Britain, she has achieved a lot, and yet people will try to discredit her success…
        I don’t know if I’m being clear!! And it’s true that when we see an American person on TV talking about their success in such positive ways, we tend to think thjat this person is “so American”…which is a stypid feeling!

    • Sistergal says:

      The disdain for “success” struck me, too. It was difficult for me to comprehend someone actually making such a statement. The fact that it is “tolerated.” Reminds me of a book I recently read, Wilkerson says, “In our era, it is not enough to be tolerant. You tolerate what you would rather not deal with and wish would go away.”

      The commentator makes success sound like something you have to apologize for in the UK. Yes, success in one’s accomplishments is a source of pride, a virtue in the US especially when it comes through hardwork, sacrifice, and prayer.

      Shame on those for whom she speaks.

      • WTF says:

        As an American, I find myself siding with the European mentality of rolling my eyes at people who constantly seek attention and monetization through podcasts/FB/IG/Tik Tok what have you, constantly having to create something bigger and better to outdo everyone else and stay relevant. It feels exhausting to me. Where is the enjoyment in life with all that? I wish we lived in a society where money and success was not the end all be all of life.

  2. WithTheAmerican says:

    NYT has turned into such trash. No doubt They’ve hired someone to go to rural diners and explain why they hate Meghan because of their economic anxiety.

    • Yup, Me says:

      Ha! I see what you did there.

    • pottymouth pup says:

      The NYT has been very problematic for a long time and seems to bend over backwards to present things in a way to curry favor with the rightwing crowd.

      • nina says:

        This. That’s why I cancelled my subscription. No sense in paying someone to enrage you.

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        I cancelled years ago. They’ve always been lower-case conservative, but the current editorial supervision has held a clear bias since 2016 and before. They printed lies about “weapons of mass destruction” (war on Iraq), contributed to the demonization of Hillary Clinton, almost buried their investigation into Trump’s tax evasion, and still bend over backwards for white supremacists. Talented writing wasted on misplaced reportorial priorities.

      • Sid says:

        Pottymouth, you described the current incarnation of the NYT perfectly.

      • Mac says:

        The “both sides” bullsh*t makes NYT as big a purveyor of fake news as Fox. And I’m pretty sure Maggie Haberman is working on an article about how the indictment of Steve Bannon is bad for Democrats.

    • MsIam says:

      I know Sussex Squad are telling Squaddies not to click on these articles that are written by these bitter brits. Shameful that the NYT is acting like that other NY rag regarding Meghan. Did Murdoch buy them too?

    • Myra says:

      I gave up on the NYT during the Trump era and I have never looked back. Every now and then I see people complain about the NYT and I feel like I made a healthy choice. As bad as it is though, it’s still nowhere near as bad as the UK media.

    • Emma says:

      Let me guess, they wrote this whole article and never referred to the word “racism” once let alone misogynoir. Maybe they said “racialized”? Ugh.

      The NYT is a terrible joke these days.

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        Racially charged, racially tinged, racial overtones…everything but racism.

        Journalism school teaches you to use the shortest words to fit in the most information. These euphemisms are crowding out the facts.

  3. Becks1 says:

    The NYT should be ashamed of itself for relying on someone like Penny Junor and letting her make broad generalizations without pushing back on them.

    I mean…tolerant of success, but don’t celebrate it? Does she think that makes the UK look good? What country does not celebrate success? Does she mean the rich white aristocrats don’t celebrate success, because they don’t understand it, because they were born on third base?

    • Andrew's Nemesis says:

      Right? They just had to go to one of Meghan’s self-defined haters and report her poison-tipped words.
      What people like Junor, Levin et al don’t seem to realise is that in casting Meghan as one of the most notorious women out there, they’ve immortalised her. She’ll figure heavily in history, sociology, politics, anthropology and a plethora of other disciplines, while the ‘English Rose’ will be vaguely remembered for her wardrobe choices.

      • Elizabeth Regina says:

        Exactly. I’ve been saying for ages that they’ve inadvertently become Meghan’s marketing and PR. The over smearing is their undoing. What they mean for evil keeps turning around for her good.

      • Maria says:

        I think maybe some of them do realize it and that’s their intent because without access to the Sussexes, all they can do for income is bait people with hateful headlines about them to get clicks.

        They’re horrible people and this will backfire on them eventually.

    • Merricat says:

      If Britain is so sick of Harry and Meghan, stop talking about them. Is she a simpleton?

      • Myra says:

        They make their name and career off of people they claim to hate and despise. Every single article is a British journalist or columnist (professional shitstirrer) complaining about something or someone.

    • equality says:

      They “tolerate success” and glorify those who were shot out of the correct birth canal. How progressive and intelligent. And what a slap in the face to successful people in the UK who weren’t born in the aristocracy.

    • Monica says:

      I’m just shocked they didn’t write a story headlined: “Duchess Meghan hated in Britain, loved in the US. Here’s why that’s bad news for Joe Biden.”

      • Petra says:

        Monica, they still have time to write that story. It’s probably already written and on hold for next month.

    • MMadison says:

      I read it as the NYT showing how foolish the Brits are when it comes to Meghan. Printing that comment in an American paper can only justify to Americans why Meghan, Duchess of Sussex had to leave the CRAZY Brits and come back home

  4. atorontogal says:

    Tolerate success? How pitiful in this day and age especially for women. Why don’t they celebrate it and encourage and applaud it?
    The small minded, petty hateful people of the British press are just too exhausting. How embarrassing to come across as, we don’t support success.

    • Kfg says:

      Imagine thinking that earning your money through hard work is bad? But being an inbred ignoramus with a trust fund is the perfect example. How dare a black person be… rich without being our entertainment and demanding respect!! Delusional morons.

      • Marivic says:

        I think the reason why the British cannot celebrate success is because their success as a nation came from systematic plundering of other nations’ wealth and resources. They ruthlessly stole and looted from India, Asia, and Africa. For centuries they continued the economic exploitation of these countries and for the longest time carried on the legacy of loot and plunder. So how can they celebrate their success from plundering and exploitation?

        This is exactly what they are doing to Meghan — exploiting her and stripping her of her being. Just like they owe reparations to these nations, they too owe Meghan for damages they’ve done to her.

    • Eurydice says:

      Yes, Penny Junior is right about this. Being successful just gets you jealousy “who does she think she is, flaunting her success…”, but heroic failures are the stuff of legends (think Charge of the Light Brigade). There are books and studies written about this.

      A friend of mine from Newcastle, who grew up in a family of three generations on the dole, left to get a job in London. He didn’t become wildly successful, but enough to get a house and live comfortably. When he went back to visit his mother everyone treated him like he was a traitor to his class, like he’d become a robber baron or something.

      • goofpuff says:

        Wow, is classism so deeply ingrained that everyone is expected to stay in their lane and not allowed any upward mobility? Or is it jealousy? I mean he made a better life for himself seems harmless enough.

      • Eurydice says:

        @goofpuff – I think it’s all of that. Plus, there seems to be a reluctance to stir things up – keep calm and carry on – you go about your life, day after day, grumbling once in a while about how “they” wouldn’t let you do better, but not with any energy or conviction because it’s more soothing to stay in your place. And there’s nothing really wrong with that if you can be happy and reasonably productive. But the US is made up of restless people and we attract restless people from around the world – we like to take things apart just to see how they work (never mind that we don’t always know how to put them back together).

    • Mrs.Krabapple says:

      I think the term “tolerate success” is an admission that the Sussexes succeeded when the haters hoped they would fail. Since the haters can no longer deny that the Sussexes have been a huge success after moving away from the toxic royal family, they now need to diminish that success as not really important. And because the Sussexes are so popular worldwide, the haters need to console themselves with “but WE don’t like them.” It’s childish and sad.

  5. Amy Bee says:

    If it was true that the UK was fed up with Meghan, she wouldn’t be talked about everyday and her name wouldn’t be inserted into articles that have nothing to do with her. With the UK, the opposite is always true when it comes to Meghan and Harry. Penny Junor should have been disqualified to comment on Harry and Meghan in the US when she called black people “coloured” on national TV.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Penny is a mouthpiece who infamously said Diana was lying about Camilla shagging Charles a day before their wedding because it was a blow job at best. The woman and her ilk are deluded. They’ve failed to realise that the RF they worship is in tatters and the glitter has fallen off the turd.

      • MsIam says:

        She was also one of the “experts” leading the “Diana is mentality ill” brigade after Diana gave her interview putting Charles on blast. She’s a disgusting sycophant who probably fantasized about putting Charles’ toothpaste on his toothbrush for him.

    • Jodes says:

      Like any addiction is remains unacknowledged otherwise they would have to face the truth and they can’t handle the truth.

  6. aquarius64 says:

    Most Americans don’t care because they see it for the smearing BS it is. They know some Brits look down on Americans in general. We are opting to stick up for one of our own.

  7. Couch potato says:

    Tired of H&M? I have an easy solution Penny – stop writing and talking about them! And tell the other rats as well.

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      Right. I found this article CNN did when Junor’s 1998 book about Charles came out. The two things most interesting to me are that the Daily Mail paid $850,000 for the serialization rights and the paragraph at the that starts with “What makes life most difficult..”.

      Junor also tried making claims Diana cheated first. That didn’t go over well.

      http://www.cnn.com/books/news/9812/03/charles.junor/index.html

  8. Annie says:

    They’re “fed up” with her. Well then they should stop clicking on websites about them and stop buying British trash tabloids that are writing about her. Meghan doesn’t even live in their country anymore, so if they’re still being constantly exposed to her then it’s because they’re choosing to seek out articles about her.

    Guess what Salty White Folks Island, Meghan gets to breathe and exist and thrive in the world, so get over yourselves.

    • lanne says:

      How can they be “fed up” with someone who doesn’t live in their country and never speaks about them? They sound like abusers “fed up” that their victims are ignoring them.

      The UK media are a bunch of bunny boilers–I won’t be IGNORED, Dan–Alex from “Fatal Attraction”. I hope all the rabbits in the UK are under protection. The UK media would boil the lot of them to get Meghan’s attention, and then blame her for their deaths (look what you made me do)

  9. A says:

    ‘In my world we tolerate success and venerate nepotism. Just ask me, Penny Junor, daughter of a knighted newspaper editor. Everyone in Britain thinks like me, and that’s why the NYT asked me about this. There is no way there are other ideas about Markle floating around GB, no way I, a very wealthy, older white woman, am not representative of anything other than a tragically outdated and selfish worldview rooted in colonialism, and no way this isn’t also Meghan Markle’s fault.’

  10. Malls_nyc says:

    “Tolerating success” is another way the British classist society keeps the “lower-class” down. You inherit your status or you are gauche. Why bother aiming to be successful, you are likely to be intolerable….cue snobby a British snicker towards anyone actually trying at anything.

    Capitalism has its faults but this way is truly oppressive and disgusting.

  11. MsIam says:

    Penny Junor is such a lying @sshole. Tell me again why he’s called “Sir” Richard Branson if you don’t celebrate success but only tolerate it? You mean you don’t tolerate (or celebrate) the success of black American women who dare to marry into your precious alt-white royal family.

  12. oliphant500 says:

    such rubbish, you’d think people were burning effigies in the street of Meghan, this woman is a complete fool.

  13. Matthew says:

    I really don’t think turning this into a USA vs Britain contest is going to end well for Britain.

  14. Belli says:

    “Harry and Meghan have been able to control their image much more effectively in the United States than in the tabloid-dominated British media.”

    The phrasing of this is unpleasant. Suggesting that if Harry and Meghan weren’t somehow reining in the US media (as if they could), their coverage would be exactly the same as the smear-riddled UK.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      I chose to see it differently. To me, they were able to control the lies against them much more effectively in American than in the UK with its corrupt invisible contract ridden BM.

    • Eurydice says:

      I think they can “control” their image more because the US isn’t obsessed with them. Royalty doesn’t mean anything in the US; it’s not our culture, but just another kind of celebrity – and H&M haven’t done anything here that would interest the tabloids. A quiet life and only saying what they want to say.

  15. tempest prognosticator says:

    I think most Americans don’t give that much thought to the BRF or H&M. I see all of them as a form of entertainment. They’re all basically celebrities – no more, no less.

  16. Jan says:

    The BM could not get Meghan to bend to their wishes, so of course they’re fed up of her, because she outsmarted them at every term, continue to write your hatchet pieces.
    Young people are not as gullible to believe all the BS the tabloids write.
    When are the BM going to realize there is no more British Empire anymore, what not write about the raw sewage getting dump in lakes/rivers.

  17. one of the narys says:

    These people! She’s not visiting your universities, she’s not talking to your politicians, she’s not in your country anymore. You told her she was a failing in every way so she bowed out, resigned and left. WTH I’m just gobsmacked that they won’t leave her alone.

  18. Andrea says:

    That Penny Junor quote about Brits “tolerating success” and not celebrating it really sums it up. God forbid you earn things through hard work and merit. Ew! That’s for commoners. No, the only thing worth celebrating is pedigree and other accidents of life that one has no personal control over. Explains why they put up with that pack of con artists living in their palaces for hundred of years – and pay them to do it!

    I realize we have our own major problems here in the U.S. but damn, do these useless stiffs make me proud to be American.

  19. Ela says:

    I really do wonder what’s going on in the UK…
    I am a huge fan of cricket and having been following the claims of racism made by an Asian player, that he experienced at a county cricket club.

    The similarities with Meghan’s UK experience is something…
    Outright racial slurs, demeaning nicknames and dismissiveness of mental health issues.
    And when he complained, he was smeared as a trouble maker and difficult. The club staff even wrote a letter about how difficult he was and how much he demanded of staff and they didn’t feel he deserved an apology. Sounds familiar??!!!

    There really seems to be a playbook on hand on how to discredit victims of racism.

    • MsIam says:

      Yeah, I don’t think you have to wonder, it’s flat out obvious. The same US style Trumpism/racism is a world wide export now. Although I’m not saying this was invented by Agent Orange but he helped water the seeds.

      • goofpuff says:

        it was always there before Trump. He just made it ok for those people to act on their racism when before society made them behave.

  20. Concern Fae says:

    And the cost of this petty little “win” will be Knauf having to turn over all his emails mentioning Meghan, uncensored. This will surely go well for him.

    This also seems like an attempt to get the American media to treat H&M as “controversial” figures, just like the British press does. There is a reason the hashtag FTFNYT exists – F The Fing New York Times.

    • Lady Digby says:

      I am hoping that Knaufoo will come unstuck and email s are uncovered proving that it was he would was the confidential source that MoS editor met with Feb 2019 prior to printing THAT letter. I like that two faced snake to outed as colluding with Meghan, s enemies from the get go!
      What’s goes around comes around!

  21. What says:

    The daily fail even has an article comparing Adele to Meghan that’s how obsessed they are. Cause they’re not getting anything from the Cambridges. They even had an article seemingly complaining about the slimmer monarchy during the royal Hall performance. Yes even they see that will and Kate are boring and won’t give the rota the clicks and advertising they need. They know that they haven’t had this much interest or headlines since Diana. So sadly Meghan will be on the chopping block until they move to the offspring

  22. ABritGuest says:

    Basically the British journalist at the NYT was called on to spread the British press take on the courtcase etc to the US.

    Penny says brits are fed to with Harry & Meghan- why is she talking about them then? Why did she suggest to the same newspaper a few months ago that they would get better press if they come back to Britain & take pictures with the kids?

    A US royal commentator posted research that Meghan was the most googled royal in Britain with 1 million searches & the daily shows ignore genuine royal stories like Andrew getting a loan paid off by a Tory donor to obsess about fake news about Meghan so somebody is interested. Just yesterday Lorraine was saying they should visit the queen at Christmas claiming the family hasn’t seen Archie for years & Elizabeth needs to meet her namesake.

    It’s true about Brit media at least resenting success which is why so many British actors & musicians stay in the US once they’ve made it. The media are even turning on Adele which I never thought I’d see. Although guess her having a black boyfriend & being interviewed by Oprah could be the real reason for that

    • Ann says:

      Mark Landler is American. He was sent to London by the NYT a couple of years ago. Before that he was in DC. I’m disappointed that he’s carrying water for this viewpoint on Meghan, honestly. He is successful through hard work. I don’t know if he comes from money but he certainly doesn’t come from any aristocracy, being American. His wife’s parents immigrated from China and she went to Harvard Law School. They’re successful and it’s worth celebrating!

      • He is failing at journalism if he could write this piece without discussing British press misogynistic and/or racist approach to any woman who isn’t white and docile. Society, democracy is not going to survive when journalists are framing stories to promote misinformation and disinformation.

    • Christine says:

      Yeah, they are turning on Adele for the exact reason they turned on Harry. It’s unbelievable. How dare these pure British souls fall in love with black people!

  23. Agreatreckoning says:

    Mark Landler (writer of the story), is the London bureau chief for the NYT. He must have some kind of relationship with Junor because he’s quoted her in most of his articles about the Sussexes over the last (almost) two years.

    • Katie says:

      Thank you so much for the context. I’m so interested in process. I wonder if US NYT editors realize they are importing right wing / nepotism rhetoric to their pages. Penny Junor should not show up in any publication that aims for anything approaching balance. I’ve been reading brokenbottleboy since someone mentioned it here and the whole system in Britain is … something.

      • Petra says:

        NYT editors knows what they’re doing and they don’t care that “we” the public knows this too. They’ve decided to jump on the Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan hate bandwagon for the revenue.

  24. Merricat says:

    I personally cannot believe how much my respect has diminished for the royal family (and their sycophants). This is who they are. This is what they are. Yes, it is as moronic and grotesque as the Trumps. Abolish the monarchy.

    • Lindsay says:

      It turns out that QE II’s forebears were right about the need to maintain the mystery. The more we learn about the BRF and the UK class system, the grosser it gets.

      • Elizabeth Regina says:

        I agree. In their frenzy to destroy Meghan, they left themselves wide open with many disgusting revelations. We’ve now seen behind the curtain and we don’t like what we see.

  25. Vanilla Brown says:

    This is another shining example of why the New York Times is overrated and I cancelled my sub.

    I also think Britain may be the only country that doesn’t celebrate success. So why cheer at those football matches? What’s the point? Weird flex.

  26. Over it says:

    The British royals don’t dabble in politics my ass.

    • Emma says:

      Yes! That struck me too!! What utter claptrap.

      Let’s see, they just went to COP26 or whatever, the queen pressed Scotland not to leave the UK, the queen is exempt from the diversity requirements everyone else has to follow, they hide their money, they are in bed with the Tories in a thousand ways including of course some of Will and Kate’s top employees, and the queen uses her power to protect her vile son against charges of rape.

      And that’s just off the top of my Irish head.

    • Lisa says:

      Such utter nonsense. Charles’ letters to politicians, the Queen vetoed bills that affected her, they’re up to their neck in corruption.

  27. Harper says:

    I wonder if the tabloids will even report on the ruling when the MOS loses its appeal? It won’t fit in with its evil Meghan narrative.

    • Amy Bee says:

      They will report on it. They’ll just pretend to be shocked by the ruling just like the last time.

      • JT says:

        For the life of me, I cannot figure why the Mail is allowed to even discuss a case that they are apart of. Shouldn’t there be an injunction placed on them? Or some sort of gag order? They are literally making money off a case in which they are defendants of. That’s insane.

  28. Chill says:

    Well, we are fed up with the Royals. Can’t wait till Will and Kate are booed when they come to NYC. Can’t wait for shouts of Meghan!!! Harry!!!

  29. Che says:

    The NYT article was about taking the shine off HM 2nd great NYC visit. The papers plastered stories about each event and M’s court apology failed to smear her as hoped for. Enter bitter Karen for clean up. The playbook needs new moves. How many bitter witches are on rotation for HM next successful outing? It’s about content and character not batsh*t opinions to prop up what’s dead ( royals)!

  30. mariahlee says:

    I thought the article did a good job of illuminating how the British disdain for her is based on snobbery and ridiculousness. To acknowledge that “the majority” hate her, despite her being popular with the youth also reveals how out of touch Junor is.

    Overall, I think coverage like this is fine. It’s unfortunate they rely so heavily on these deeply biased sources, but hopefully anyone not a royalist will peep Junior’s skewed perspective.

    • I agree. I believe this is an accurate representation of them (out of touch, royal-obsessed snobs stuck in an outdated caste system) compared to hard-charging, hard working, self-made Meghan.

  31. Sakura says:

    The desperation of the British media is so cringey. Meghan doesn’t need them, but they need her. They hate that, so they’re just going to keep bullying this poor woman until she breaks (she won’t).

    • Marivic says:

      The British media and their carnival of clowns hate the fact that they need Meghan for them to survive economically. They don’t have anything to put on their family’s table without her.

  32. Gigi says:

    Lots of loaded language and misogynist dog whistles in that story. So many ways to approach the tabloid battle story and the NYT takes the low road. Lazy and disappointing.

  33. Over it says:

    Maybe if the ffk and ffq did some actual work, then these obsessive, racist, abusive assholes could focus on the work they were doing instead of constantly attacking and berating a woman who said bye Felicia to them almost two years ago.

  34. rawiya says:

    You know: I’m starting to get fed up of Meghan, too. These people (all dem) need to be dragged through their filth and she’s still protecting their reputation and saying nonsense like “Senior Royal A”, all the while everyone and her daddy can call her out her name. She needs to stop going high. Go low, Meghan. GO LOW. I’m tired. I’m fed of the Pennys and the Jasons and the Piers and Williams. Give it right back. No more high road, moral ground crap. Let everyone know who said what, who is sleeping with who, who did that!

    • equality says:

      And you really think she can win by doing that? Harry is likely the one with that kind of evidence anyway.

    • Consie Wright says:

      LOL. One can assume Senior Royal A and B are Chuck and Bulliam respectively. Two desperate future kings going after a black woman because Harry fell in love with her and what “that would look like” on the balcony, in pictures and in their future reign. Let there be no doubt who was having those conversations with Harry…and it is very clear both father and brother were putting enormous pressure on him to get him to change his mind. They even tried to recruit his uncle, Charles Spencer, to jump onboard to convince Harry to 500 years of bloodline should not be tarnished even though these inbreds haver been tarnishing it for centuries.

    • goofpuff says:

      Honestly, Harry is the best one for that. He has the anger and the knowledge. Meghan should just let him loose on them. I really feel like he is only holding back out of respect for her to protect her and his children, knowing that no matter what he does, that she will be blamed.

      But at some point, he’s going to crack when they cross the line of no return. Which we all know they will if they haven’t already. Harry is very smart. He will play his hand when he is ready. And it will be glorious.

    • MsIam says:

      Meghan in the midst of a court case. Any lawyer worth their salt will tell their client not to discuss the case in public, let alone with the media. Which is probably another reason the Mail and the Royal Family want to drag this out.

    • Jaded says:

      She’s not protecting their reputations, she’s doing what any smart, civilized person would do when dealing with a bunch of abusive louts — ignore them, sue them if necessary and get on with her good works. She’s not letting them get to her ever again or give them more ammunition to take the fight into a more public and dirty arena.

  35. GR says:

    As a couple of other commenters have noted, the NY Times has really gone to hell, which is especially obvious with its “both sides” coverage of neonazis in the last few years.

    • Emma says:

      Man when they published Tom Cotton’s op-ed with no editorial oversight of any kind… that was it. I haven’t missed them.

      • Ann says:

        The editor in charge, James Bennett, got fired over that. It was a big scandal. A lot of stuff came out about him being a toxic and sexist boss. Brilliant writer and thinker, terrible manager of people. He landed on his feet, of course.

    • Dee Kay says:

      Like others are saying here, I cancelled my NYT subscription during the Trump years. Their smearing Hillary was inexcusable and that followed by their elevation of Trump and Trumpies, the NYT became absolutely abhorrent to me. It doesn’t surprise me they’re still choosing to be on the wrong side of history. But the Grey Lady has fallen very far indeed.

  36. Sel says:

    To answer everyone’s questions about what the hell is happening in the UK – I think the UK is going exactly the same way as the US tragically. The vast majority of the country is pretending the pandemic is over. No masks, anywhere. No one caring about the people in society that still have to isolate and displaying a frankly eugenicist (and so essentially fascist) mindset. Apparently 1 in 5 of the over 60s in the UK are millionaires. That age group are the ones who overwhelmingly voted in a fascist, authoritarian government, who are literally using the Hitler playbook to destroy our democracy. Its terrifying to watch. They are also destroying and privatising our NHS, have killed over 140,000 people from Covid, and normalised further deaths. No one cares if people die any more. Our press supports all of it and there is no one in the main stream media holding them to account.
    Of course the UK has always been vastly racist, imperialist and colonialist and it now feels like we’re reverting to the overt racism of the 1970s. It’s felt that way since half the country voted for Brexit, and all the racists felt emboldened to crawl out of the woodwork. Our government, and our PM are wildly racist. Boris Johnson is essentially a 2 pence Trump.
    Here where I live in London, people love Meghan, and plenty think the royal family are at best redundant, and increasingly people realise they’re a scourge on society, but most people here also voted left wing. The rest of England is disturbing to put it mildly, becoming Increasingly nationalistic. And yes, there has always been some English bs attitude, driven by the press about looking down on Americans – and the rest of the world for that matter – its pure English exceptionalism. And yes, there has long been an attitude of knocking people down for being successful in England – our press have loved to do it for as long as I can remember.
    I’m horrified to now find myself trapped in this hellhole – or ‘plague island’ as some of us call it now. Its sort of like ‘Midnight Mass’ but on a larger scale. I’m genuinely scared to be here and wish I could get the hell out.

    • Dee Kay says:

      @Sel I applaud you for even being willing to say these things about your country. 100% of my non-British-born friends left the UK as soon as they could after the Brexit vote. All the English ppl I have tried to talk to about Brexit and the current govt just shut down, like they can’t even face or talk about what is happening to their country. The U.S. is frequently in turmoil and severely divided and full of morons but one thing I will give us is we freaking talk talk talk and talk about where we are as a nation and wtf we are doing. I have never seen such “ostriching” (head in the sand) behavior as I have by English folk when confronted with questions about Brexit and Johnson. But you have given a very lucid set of answers to the questions I’ve been asking for a while so thank you.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “All the English ppl I have tried to talk to about Brexit and the current govt just shut down”

        I have found this true regarding BREXIT with English people I know. Why do the English not want to talk about BREXIT?

    • MipMip says:

      @Sel. Thank you for your insight into the UK. I think you are right about the parallels between the US and UK- we are both flailing and drowning in fascism in our own particular ways but when you get down to it, it’s all symptomatic of the same things: entrenched inequality, racism, misogyny and a general superiority complex that right-wingers in both countries cling to like grim death.

      I’m American and never cared about the royals until a couple years ago, around when H&M left the UK. Once I started paying attention to everything that has been done to MM by the RF and BM I was appalled and haven’t been able to look away.

      I now see that abolishing the monarchy is critical to the future of the entire world. This symbol of white supremacy is a guiding light, not just in the UK, but to all of the white conservative western world. Racism, misogyny and inequality continue to be reinforced and entrenched by these inbred clowns and their continued abuse of a black woman. The BM are RF are abusive, plain and simple. Enough.

      ABOLISH THE MONARCHY

    • Isabellla says:

      I live in the U.S. and we are trying to get everybody vaccinated, including children. We are not pretending the pandemic is over. Except for the usual people & every country has them.

  37. Serena says:

    That whole artcle is plain bullshit. If Baldy and Keeny Kate think this is how they’ll gain popularity in the US, well, they’re more stupid than I thought.

    Also, speaking/actually doing something for civil rights etc is = looking for attention. LMAO PLEASE SHUT UP.

  38. Michelle says:

    The best thing Meghan and Harry did was leave and put their own wellbeing first.

  39. Janice Hill says:

    According to Penny Juror’s logic, Lady Sussex’s success has caused her to move up in the world, and Prince Harry is perceived as moving down in the world. They have rejected and crossed the invisible barriers of class and race. Conservative English people are so threated by it that they hate them for it. Juror also feels threatened that Americans don’t buy into the English class system, and she hates us for it. All this because conservative English people are clinging desperately to their disappearing sense of superiority. I wonder what the ratings are in Ireland and Scotland, where many citizens feel colonized by England and want to separate.

  40. Nic919 says:

    Meghan isn’t the one putting herself in the uk tabloids on a daily basis. The UK media is doing that and profiting from the hate. This article will only convince the American MAGAs who already hate Meghan.

  41. Rapunzel says:

    And why is Penny rehashing the lie that H&M wanted privacy? That’s bull. And labeling them attention seeking? The only non work related thing they did for attention was Oprah…because the media basically left them no choice but to correct the lies.

  42. Bettyrose says:

    That “they wanted privacy” line is used up. Try another approach. They wanted fair treatment. A chance to be judged on their work. So they ultimately moved someplace that could happen.

  43. S808 says:

    She hasn’t step foot in or addressed them in about a year so i’m sure the feeling is mutual.

  44. Ann says:

    I read that article yesterday and I was gobsmacked by that comment about success. They don’t celebrate success but Americans do, and that makes Americans bad somehow? WTF? What BS. It’s not that they don’t celebrate success…..it’s that they want people to “know their place” and not subvert the class system. In Meghan’s case, add a massive dose of racism to the classism and you’ve got “Duchess Of Success” meant as an insult. Sounds more like a compliment to me. But I’m American, horrors.

    I know the guy who wrote the article, though I’ve only met him once. He is married to a classmate of my husband’s. He seems decent enough, so I don’t really fault him for the turn this article took. I fault the NYT. I also turned my back on them after 2016 and I have no regrets. It’s pathetic.

    • Angelica Schuyler says:

      @Ann, You are spot on. Achieving “success” is basically the essence of the American dream. It’s why people emigrate here from all over the world, to have the chance to achieve the things they could never hope for in their home countries. It’s why we get up in the morning… It’s why we revolted against British rule. It’s what we LOVE about Meghan and Harry. They broke free, against all odds, and are thriving and successful. They broke all the rules of the British class system. We love it here in America. We live for this! this is why the Brits keep losing their Sussex-bashing PR game here in America. Our rules are different, but they still use the same playbook as they do across the pond. They don’t understand that we love it when people rise above their station. (Cue Andra Day singing Rise Up). We will continue to applaud the Sussex’s success, especially because it annoys the likes of Penny Junor and her aristocratic cronies.

  45. Kristin says:

    I apologize to all British posters here, but I am really starting to despise your country! Do these people like Penny Junor honestly think comments like this endear the rest of the world to Britain? That success is tolerated as opposed to us gluttonous Americans who dare to celebrate it?? My God. I mean the sheer inability to read the room and understand how the rest of the world is viewing them right now is simply staggering.

    • Eurydice says:

      I don’t think she cares what the world thinks of the UK – she cares that she got her name in the New York Times. The royal experts only care about their continued existence, just as the Royal family only cares about its continued existence. At the end of the day, it’s really just a handful of people that are creating all this noise and discontent, just like 50 Twitter accounts spawned much of the Meghan hate.

    • Emma says:

      She is talking about the majority of *old, well-off, white, extremely conservative people* in England. A very particular/peculiar group. There are a lot of Black people and people of color in England and a lot of progressives. Meghan did receive some support, especially from women in Parliament. But there is a very strong Murdoch/Tory/royal alliance that is very loud and full of racist colonial nostalgia. Sadly, not too dissimilar from our U.S. Republicans these days.

  46. Mslove says:

    Is that why Earthshot was a dismal failure? Because success is only tolerated, not celebrated?

    What kind of dystopian hell is going on at salty isle?

    • Thirtynine says:

      The only success they celebrate is in sports. The English really prefer their glorious failures, the cult of the amateur etc. Look at their politics, their RF, their mythology. All of this goes hand in hand with the class system, and is designed to keep those on top on top, and everyone else down where they belong, and instils the idea in those on top that they are entitled to whatever they want, with complete confidence, hence the colonialism and pillaging of the rest of the world. It’s a sick, sick place.

  47. GrnieWnie says:

    Yessss…..we tolerate success….we don’t *celebrate* it. Why would we celebrate someone rising above their station? You are your station. Should you happen to do well for your station, bravo. But don’t transcend. We’ll slap you back down, and don’t you forget it.

  48. Kelsey says:

    So tired of her but they can’t keep her name out their mouths. LOLOLOL. Okay, NYT.

  49. Ellie says:

    I cancelled my NYT subscription about 18 months ago after reading a piece by the London bureau journalist. I think he may have quoted Penny Junor there as well. No point giving your money to people who can’t do the basics. Would love to see proper journalists investigate Meghan’s experience in Britain and come up with the facts. No histrionics no fangirling just plain facts.

    She has been treated abysmally by the British press and sometimes I fear for her well-being. Why is this one person getting worse press than dictators, killers & traffickers?

  50. Cado says:

    So Penny Junior style’s herself as a royal historian? Seems more of a fiction writer to me.

    • Tessa says:

      She fawns over Prince Charles said she had a “soft spot” for him and wrote how she finds Camilla “sexy” and “endearing.” About says it all.

  51. L4frimaire says:

    The Sussexes didn’t comment on this article when contacted and that really is the best thing to do. Like WTF is this?! Journalists,esp. from the NYTimes, should do their due diligence instead of letting blatant falsehoods stand like Junors statements. Will not be surprised if they have to issue a correction. So what if success is celebrated over here, why wouldn’t tit be. It seems the mantra over there is to barely tolerate and even sneer at anything that doesn’t represent inertia.Penny Junor of all people just delegitimizes the article. They really have a national psychosis over there when it comes to Meghan. There was some crazy headline criticizing Adele, saying she’s a “self important musical Meghan Markle”. Do these people sound sane?

    • MipMip says:

      “It seems the mantra over there is to barely tolerate and even sneer at anything that doesn’t represent inertia.”

      I think you hit the nail on the head with your analysis 🙄

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      @L4frimaire,

      “Do these people sound sane?”. That is a big, huge NO. I’m guessing some people were not happy with Adele choosing Prince Harry over Prince Doesntdomuch. So, let’s attack her now too.

      The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will not comment on most articles. They will especially not comment on articles involving the royal rotal or janky royal commentators. It’s why, I think it was the Telegraph?, that made some claim knowing something about Lili’s christening, was a lie. The Sussexes were very clear on who they will communicate with. Any media that’s part of the royal rota is not one of them. Their people or friends are not sharing anything with unsavory sources.

      Yeah, keep it up @ssholes. You’re showing yourselves and Harry’s book hasn’t come out yet.

  52. Tangerinetree says:

    The NYT has been trash for a while: see Maggie Haberman for years. Seeking out Penny Junor’s comments cements their biased, racist coverage of Meghan and falsely exalting the Royal Family. Now add Mark Landler’s name to the list of sycophants to lie in support of RF and British media.

    • Isabellla says:

      Agree. I thought there was an actual poll, showing that Brits hate Meghan. But, no, it’s just Penny ranting.

    • Ann says:

      I read a funny tweet about her, something like how when you both-side wide-spread, egregious Republican behavior with something mildly similar that one Democrat might have done and how they’re equally bad it’s called “Maggie Haberman-splaining.”

  53. RoyalBlue says:

    Murdoch is showing what a wide reach he has.

  54. HK9 says:

    So let me get this straight. The British, who are known for their reserve go out of their way to say they hate Megan and can’t keep her name out of their mouths? Really? I don’t think they care that much, but I think there’s one family who does and we see you.

  55. LeonsMomma says:

    Harry and Meghan did what I call the second American Revolution — shaking off the shackles of the UK for freedom. I also hope this widens the eyes of some of the maniacal Anglophiles over here about the country they worship is classist and racist. Anglophiles are generally racist, but would love to tell a few of them that because of their backgrounds, the society they copy and worship, would never accept them.

  56. 0ne Night Comment says:

    First time commenting just to say this: British people aren’t fed up with Meghan. They’re fed up with royalty -period. It seems the majority has a kind of respect tinted with nostalgia for the Queen, but when she’s gone, that’s it… Doesn’t matter what the papers (owned by some rich fat white men!) say; go to a pub in a working-class city and just listen. Seriously, these lackeys and pr people, publicists whatever, can spin it as much as they want, but nobody really wants these royal busy-bodys around anymore. They are not as important as they wish they were…

  57. Che says:

    Didn’t they get the memo… HM are fed up that’s why they left nearly 2 yrs ago. Why is the BM still talking? Mute that monkey!

  58. Onomo says:

    I honestly felt and still feel Harry married up. She gave Harry an out. He should be known as Prince Meghan of Montecito, showing how silly titles and such are.

    if I’m honest, using British titles while in the US is like if I deemed myself the Baroness of Uvalde while in the Phillipines. The only reason they would care about that title would be because I was a colonizer, who was rich from plundering them. It’s just messed up that not only did the colonizer pillage your country, you have to glorify them too? Get over yourselves, royal family, Brits, and racist media.

    Just let these people live. They just want to be helpful and create Amazon lists for charities.

    Hopefully their PR reads this though. F*** the patriarchy and royalty. Call him Prince Meghan of Montecito forever.

  59. Agreatreckoning says:

    Max Foster best keep his trap shut about all this ‘we don’t celebrate success’ nonsense.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/09/uk/royal-news-newsletter-07-09-21-scli-gbr-cmd-intl/index.html

    “Royals don’t go to matches just for the fun of it. As head of nation, the Queen has a duty to act as “a focus for national identity, unity and pride” and officially “recognise success and excellence.”"

  60. Sarah I says:

    It just occurred to me that the media in Britain are acclimated to how often Kate “works”, so by that standard, our Duchess has gone out a lot. Just kidding.

  61. Pat Gaddess says:

    If the Keens come to the US how are they going to handle the dinner with the Biden’s Dr Biden has already said she is a friend of Harry’s Do the Cambridge’s decline the invite? I would love to be a fly on the wall Biden’s and Sussexes are friends

  62. Tessa says:

    I’m fed up with Penny Junor. With her Diana slamming and fawning over C and C. And now her slamming Harry and Meghan.

  63. Tessa says:

    I notice a pattern here, articles and social media posters who criticize Harry and Meghan always use “most of us” or “we” instead of their individual opinions. It is propaganda, and some believe it when it is assumed “most” think that way.

  64. khaveman says:

    Harry bolted from England, his wife and he are successful, live the life, do good work, and she is a strong, biracial woman with confidence. It galls them.

  65. Jais says:

    Whew, long day, finally catching up in reading this article and all the comments and I gotta say:
    The comments today are fire. So interesting. Love y’all celebitches and kudos to Kaiser’s article.

  66. blunt talker says:

    I listened to the news on the PBS station today-this cricket player described his treatment playing for the team he was on-a tear came to my eye and heart felt heavy-the UK has a serious problem with classism and racism throughout the entire country-they made his life hell on the field and off-he stated he has to speak out now-he tried looking the other way but it has been too much for him to bear-if anyone thinks the royals don’t have these evil people working for them and helping them stay inpower I got a bridge in New York to sell you-What they are doing is allowing people to make comments about Harry and Meghan with noone to ask questions or give an opposite response-Allowing them to spew their vile hateful comments without an opposing view-I once wanted to go and visit the UK-not any more-couldn’t give a damn about going or seeing people like this.GOD BLESS THE SUSSEX FAMILY AND KEEP THEM IN HIS HEART.

  67. blunt talker says:

    PS-I feel deep in my soul all this constant screaming in the media especially in the UK-They feel threatened by Meghan and Harry and their family-nobody needs this much media in their lives-H and M do not go out of their way to bother anyone -you rarely see them-once a month or two that;s rarely to me-the royal family is seen every week doing what they do-the UK media have alot of important things to talk about than a couple who lives in another country-the privacy to me means when they are home with their children do not invade-coming on their property to spy-flashing light beams inside a rented dwelling in the UK-privacy means do not invade my personal space which is mainly their home time-I would like to invade some of these UK so-called reporters personal space and look through their windows and trepass on their property. If they are so tired of hearing about the Sussexes-cut off your cameras. cut off your phones, cut off your written media-very simple-the only reason they don’t is to keep stirring up shit and noise to get paid and present their evil side-I have home training-IF YOU CAN’T SAY OR COMMENT ON SOMEONE WITHOUT EVIL HATEFUL WORDS-DON’T COMMENT AT ALL-I only care about the Sussexes living their best lives which is a God-Given right to all human beings-I like the issues and topics they have interest in-the UK needs to get off their backs and let them be-When this court case is over win/lose I want the Sussex family to be at peace and know they tried to defend and protect themselves from the vicious media-The UK needs to be worrying about young women being stuck with needles while out at bars/can’t remember anything the next day-Worry about how Brexit is hurting your economy especially for people in the lower classes-Worry about the sleaze in the tory party-Worry about the queen’s health-Worry about climate change-there so many things they could worry about but they rather constant nag and harass a young couple who left almost 2 years ago-go figure.

  68. Leah says:

    Ridiculous. How can strangers be fed up with someone they don’t even know. At least her meeting and union with that prince was natural and her mother wasn’t grooming her to be a princess. If Middleton Sr had been in America, they would have called her a “stage mother”.

  69. MsGnomer says:

    What a dumb headline. As if any one cares. Me, I am entirely fed up with British Royals harrassing me via American media outlets while waiting in check out lines. I thought we were no longer a colony. Go away, all of you in that dead institution; stop the lip shits; use your positions to help the world instead of feeding your own wealth and egoism. Glad Biden farted on you Camilla. I will, too, given a chance.

  70. The Brits only “tolerate” success, rather than celebrating it? What *do* they celebrate, then? Ineptitude? Failure? Explains why they lost the Revolutionary War to the Yanks. And their precious empire. 😆

  71. CQ says:

    Funny enough I think Meghan let you know she was fed up 2 years ago. She did leave so …why is the UK still putting her name in the news?