Mike Tindall: Having children ‘is a massive shock’ to the system for men


Mike and Zara Tindall celebrated their tenth wedding anniversary this year, the same as the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge. Mike proposed to Zara soon after William and Kate announced their engagement, and Mike and Zara were married in Scotland in the summer of 2011. In those ten years, Mike and Zara have also welcomed three children, and Zara gave birth to their son Lucas earlier this year at their home at Gatcombe Park (they live in one of the homes on Princess Anne’s extensive estate). Mike spoke about all of this and more on a special episode of Loose Women. The purpose of the interview was to highlight International Men’s Day and talk about men accessing mental health resources. Some quotes from Mike’s interview:

Whether he would be willing to renew his vows after 10 years of marriage. “Yeah, I think I would.” The former rugby pro added that this was partly because of everything he and Zara, 40, have experienced since they tied the knot in July 2011 — including the arrival of children Mia, 7, Lena, 3, and Lucas, 7 months.

It’s not all sunshine & roses: “A marriage or long-term relationship can’t always be roses and rainbows,” Mike said on the daytime TV show, which was renamed Loose Men in support of International Men’s Day. “When you have children, that is a massive shock, change to your system that you’ve never experienced and there is going to be those rocky roads. There are things that are thrown at you that have to test both of you and that will test that relationship. The thing is no one is right, no one is wrong. You have to work through it together.”

He & Zara hug it out: Despite this, Mike conceded that Zara, a granddaughter of the Queen, tends to “stay angry” if the couple fights, whereas he draws on his experiences as an England rugby player to move on and say “should we have a hug?” once the dust has settled.

He had a hard time adjusting to retirement from rugby: He was “saying ‘yes’ to everything” to consciously make his life as busy as possible and physically prevent him from watching rugby. “It was like six months where I really didn’t know sort of where I wanted to go. Zara would probably say it was more like a year. I ended up going and doing Bear Grylls, so that I was away when the autumn internationals were on, so I didn’t have to watch the rugby that I was probably so used to playing in. It is difficult. I went to work every year for 17 years with 35 to 40 of my best mates. I just used to hang around with them, be like typical blokes all day, every day, and then, one day, you wake up and – if you haven’t planned for the future – you wake up and your next six months isn’t planned. It’s not on your fridge, so your wife can see it. Suddenly you’re like ‘well actually I don’t need to get out of bed today. I don’t need to go to the gym.’ And suddenly it’s quite a lonely place to be. And it doesn’t matter how successful your career is.”

On his kids: “I was really keen on having a boy but then Mia came along. By the time Lena came I wasn’t bothered if I had another girl because I’d had this little bundle of joy in Mia. It was happy days. The third was very fast,” he added about the recent – and sudden – arrival of son Lucas on March 21, who was delivered on the floor of the couple’s bathroom after Zara’s water broke. “She (Zara) was lying on her side saying, ‘it’s never going to work’ then it went and within 20 minutes the baby had come and I was sat on my sofa watching rugby with my little boy. I’m no longer surrounded by just women in my house!”

[From People]

I mean, he cheated on Zara within months after their wedding, so he’s not joking about the trials and tribulations of marriage. Much of what he says is designed to give himself a pass for his behavior though, and he’s clearly trying to “both sides” his marriage. But whatever… these people’s concerns about mental health are deep as a puddle. They’re basically just using “mental health” as a talking point to evoke sympathy. Whatever, dude.

Zara Tindall & Mike Tindall arrive at Day 3 , The Festival , St Patrick's Day , Cheltenham Racecourse, Cheltenham , Glos

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  1. Lola Coasters says:

    Isn’t every day International Men’s Day? FFS shut up Mike.

  2. WingKingdom says:

    I have kids, but I am unmarried and all of that just sounds completely awful to me.

  3. Who ARE These People? says:

    In Britain would he be called a knob?

  4. Amy Bee says:

    Sounds like a man who feels trapped in his marriage to me.

    • iconoclast59 says:

      This interview reminds me of when Ben Affleck won his Oscar for Argo; he went onstage to collect his award and told the whole world how it was “hard work” to be married to Jennifer Garner. I suspect that, similar to the ex-Afflecks, the Tindalls have a marriage where Zara does most of the heavy lifting and Mike takes 50% of the credit.

    • Deering24 says:

      Why do guys like this even get married?

  5. MrsGuyIncognito says:

    Amen Lola Coasters….exactly my thoughts.

  6. Alexandria says:

    This racist, misogynistic lout fits right in with the family. Good match Zara!

  7. Kviby says:

    He must be really charming in person (or he’s rich) because he is certainly not her looks match (and obviously he’s not nice enough for her to love his kindness.) there’s nothing too special about what he’s saying here but I like to see men speak about their feelings. It can sound annoying but ultimately it’s a good example for their kids and a net positive for society

    • Sofia says:

      Eh. I feel like Zara and Mike are more similar than people think. She probably has more sense to keep it quiet and not get it caught on camera.

  8. Melly says:

    I wonder if Mike the Thug will be disparaged in the media for talking about mental health, or is that just reserved for members of the RF who marry a half black woman?

  9. Loretta says:

    I can’t stand this man

  10. J ferber says:

    I hope Zara wasn’t still lying on the floor of the bathroom after childbirth while he was on the couch watching soccer with his male baby. He’s a gem.

    • Kay says:

      This visual cracked me up. It’s baffling to me, how many people still prioritize boys as some beacon of masculinity/carrying on the family name in 2021. Our first baby (a boy) is due any day now, and the number of people who ask if my husband is thrilled to “be getting his boy” repulses me. They are legitimately shocked when I say “we’re thrilled for a take-home baby after a loss earlier this year, but my husband was actually hoping we would have a girl first”…like, how could a MAN possibly want, much less slightly prefer, a daughter? It’s so weird. (And for the record, husband quickly got over any disappointment, we’re not so much into gender stereotypes around here)

      • Cee says:

        I hate those gender reveal videos in which one parent is visibly upset or disappointed when the gender is revealed! I hope kids never get to see their reactions!

      • Sofia says:

        I can see why people with hereditary titles/peerages in the UK would want a boy, especially if they’ve been experiencing fertility issues/are the last people in the line so need a boy for it to continue – although Mike doesn’t have a title to pass down. And if you or your partner really wanted a particular gender then I can see people being upset *initially* but if you’re letting those feelings dictate how you treat your kids/make your partner feel bad for not delivering a child of your preferred gender, then that is really sh*tty to put it mildly.

      • Laughysaphy says:

        Oh same. Our only is a boy, and like you said, the number of people who were almost relieved to hear that we were having a boy was really bizarre. Now we get, after going through a lot of struggles to have a second baby, well at least you’ve gotten your boy. WTF?!

      • Becks1 says:

        Congratulations Kay, hope the delivery and recovery is smooth for you!

        I have two boys so I get asked the reverse – “don’t you want a girl? do you want a third so you can try for a girl? Do you wish you had had a girl?”

        for the first – sure, I would have loved to have had a girl. But I love having boys too. I honestly did not care. I’m not sad that I don’t have a girl – I would have been as happy having a girl as I was having a boy.

        for the second – we’re pretty sure we’re done, so no, I’m not going to “try for a third” in the case that it’s a girl. What if it’s a boy? do we keep going?

        And for the third – I love my two boys, which of them should I give up to have a girl? The older one or the younger one? So no, I don’t “wish I had a girl”. I am very thankful and happy with my two boys.

      • Ann says:

        We didn’t find out with our first and we would have been happy with either, but my husband’s mother openly said she hoped the first one would be a boy (it was). I thought that was so odd, since she came from a family with three girls and a boy and she was the oldest. What did it matter to her?

        I’ll admit when we found out our second was a girl, I was happy, but I had expected it to be another boy and I would have been fine with that too. We knew a few families where they kept trying for what they didn’t have yet, and they ended up with four boys, or four girls. That’s just not a good reason to keep having children……..to “get a boy” or “get a girl.” Kids are unique. If I’d had another boy, he would have been a different little person from his brother and that would have been fulfilling and wonderful too.

      • AmelieOriginal says:

        I had a friend who kept having kids because she was desperate to have a girl. She had three boys and finally kid 4 was a girl. I asked her would she have had a fifth had the fourth been a girl and she said yes. Not sure she would have stopped had she ended up with 5 boys lol, but she had a tubal ligation after her fourth because she finally got her girl and she didn’t want to keep getting pregnant (she has weird ideas about birth control).

        Another friend just gave birth to a boy and she is one and done. She openly admitted to being annoyed when she first found out it was a boy because she came from a girl only household with a sister and she couldn’t imagine being mother to a son. But she loves her kid and is going to spoil him rotten. It’s ok to be disappointed at first or to have a preference I think personally but I think it’s weird for other people to voice their preference to you as they are not the ones who are pregnant or carrying your child.

      • Triscuit says:

        I absolutely agree and I think everyone needs to realize that it is 2021 and girls can carry on the name. They can keep the last name they were born with even if they marry and can pass it down to the children. Why does nobody seem aware of this?
        In addition, I am pretty sure that having a child is an enormous shock to the system for any woman. as well. This guy is a big time misogynist and the idea in any society that boy babies are more valuable than girls has got to stop. Females are not inferior to males. I think the world and the rampant misogynistic ideologies in the world need to recognize and understand this.

    • Deering24 says:

      J ferber—hee, I was wondering about that. And how a newborn could even see a soccer match.

  11. Becks1 says:

    why do people keep giving him a platform? He’s so obnoxious, although I guess he did at least have a career and work, which is more than most members of the royal family can say.

    • Catherine says:

      IMO. The BRF/BM are desperately trying to polish him up and present him as some sort of part time working royal. As a partial replacement for Harry. Harry’s patronages still haven’t been transferred. I think because they’ve realized now how problematic and tacky it will look as opposed to being the triumphant punishment they thought it would be. They could give Mike the Rugby patronages using the fact that he played as a cover. But the more he talks the more distasteful he comes across.

  12. Crowned Huntress says:

    Good grief, the misogyny & gaslighting just leaks from every orfice of this man.
    This reads as I’m terrified of women and don’t care if I hurt my wife because woman feelings are nonsensical. But never fear it’s not that big of a deal, I’ve got a son now so I’m no longer alone &. can take great joy in indoctrinating him with misogyny so he can be like one of the lads. 🙄

    • Amy Too says:

      Also the redemption arc of finally being able to watch rugby again. He is healed, he can watch rugby, and good thing, because now he has a son and they must bond by watching sports together.

  13. Nan says:

    Sorry, but I can’t help thinking how this pugnacious knucklehead is so free to speak his tiny mind and generously share his entitled macho jerkiness in complete peace while the mere fact that Meghan breathes seems to be enough to set off vexation and condemnation throughout England.

  14. Tw says:

    I would love to see a study on the incidence of narcissism in professional athletes.

    • Andrew's Nemesis says:

      I can’t remember which study it was – I *think* Harvard, but am not sure – that stated narcissism was highest amongst politicians, media personalities and professional sportspeople.

  15. Léna says:

    I’m one of 4 girls and 90% of the time, upon learning this fact, people will tell me: “Oh poor dad, alone in the house with all these girls” and I’m like wtf ? My dad is fine. He loves it and he never ever said otherwise. Hearing an actual father of 2 girls saying “thank god I’m not the only man anymore” is a bummer. But I’m not surprised he is a POS

    • mellie says:

      I know! I have three girls (all grown) and my husband is always teased about “how did you manage with three girls??? My God, the hormones of all those women in the house!” . Well, he always did shut that $hit down and would say, not only did I have a house full of women, but I coached all the girls sports and went on every field trip, volunteered in classrooms etc…I love my girls! They are sweet and fun and grew up to be strong and capable…we’re all good here!

    • ItReallyIsYou,NotMe k8 says:

      I was one of 2 girls. My dad is from a traditional culture where masculinity is valued but he NEVER made my sister or I feel like he wished for a boy. Now I have a girl and a boy. My boy is very much into sports and my husband noticed that my dad really likes having a grandson to watch sports with. I think my dad enjoys having a grandCHILD to watch sports with but he would have been happy if it was his granddaughter who watched with him. He probably does like having a grandson but he would have loved whoever was born.

  16. FrodoOrOdo says:

    The easy way he throws little digs at his wife and children…

    Also, he wanted a boy and it took until the second child was born to be okay with not getting a(nother) boy?


  17. Jan says:

    I still remember Zara going to Australia to bring her cheating husband back home.
    They deserve each other, talk about uncouth.

  18. Over it says:

    I can’t stand him or his wife, that’s why they are the perfect airheads for each other

  19. OriginalLala says:

    well, doesn’t he sound delightful and not at all like a misogynistic wanker


  20. Leah says:

    Not according to the guy who woke me (and my neighbors) up at 6am yesterday walking in front of my apt building yelling about his newborn baby.

    Congrats dude, but honestly how inconsiderate can you be?

    That said, I think he will start to sound like that Tindall guy when when he realizes that was only day one of 18 years to go of a kid hanging off his paycheck.

  21. J ferber says:

    Stef, although I’m no expert on British insults, I feel the term “wanker” is totally applicable to Tindall. You should start to call him this– today if possible.😘

  22. SpankyB says:

    I like her suit in the top photo. That’s the only nice thing I can say about these two.

  23. Charm says:

    See……this is what happens when you dont live a life of purpose. And this creature, peter phillips, has shown himself to be such a wasteman.

  24. Lala11_7 says:

    I see that Zara got the husband she deserves.

  25. equality says:

    Poor thing, what a shock to his system. Imagine if he had been the one on the floor pushing a baby out.

  26. candy says:

    He must be a complete nightmare to live with.

  27. Ry says:

    I support all genders and people saying what they feel or think. The reactions will be just that: reactions.
    Life is choice and consequences. Say what you say ND it’ll land how it lands.

  28. Tessa says:

    Maybe his daughters will enjoy rugby too. I don’t know how his saying he did not want to have only girls will go over with them. I can only imagine the irony if his son was not interested in rugby and his daughters enjoyed watching rugby.

  29. Tessa says:

    Mike should be happy he has healthy children. Frances Shand Kydd was angry at her then son in law Charles for being disappointed his second child was not a daughter. She told him to be happy the child is healthy. Mike should just keep quiet.

  30. Triscuit says:

    Why does nobody realize that married women can keep the last name they were born with and pass it on to their children? As for male babies being considered superior to female babies, that crap has to end. Many societies around the world has this belief. Girls, women are not inferior to boys or men. Everyone is just a human trying to survive but it can’t be through the oppression of others. Women along with men need to stop perpetuating the archaic, inaccurate and patriarchal belief that boy babies are better to have than girl babies as well. Just stop it.

    This guy is a misogynist and shouldn’t be given any attention.

  31. Tangerinetree says:

    I really didn’t know much about him until recently when he joked about trying to beat up Harry years ago, and then his saying the family now sits around and wants to slap Harry. Honestly, all these years I thought he was probably good friends with H because he too had worked for many years, led a normal life and, I assumed, was down to earth. And now more horrible comments? Yikes, this family!

  32. Jumpingthesnark says:

    Wiping away tears of laughter at the insults upthread! When I was reading the article I just knew the Celebitches would deliver!

  33. bisynaptic says:

    my goodness, what a catch he is.