Chris Noth is in And Just Like That, the Sex and the City “eleven years later” series. I can’t believe it’s been eleven years since the second SATC movie. God, that movie was utter crap, so I don’t like to think about it at all. Perhaps we can just pretend that this show picks up after the end of the TV run of SATC??? Probably not. I was going to say something about how Noth’s role seems significant enough that he’s being sent out to do promotional interviews, but then I read a huge spoiler for AJLT and now I wonder why they even sent him out to do any interviews, like this one in the Guardian. Some highlights:
He didn’t like that he was so closely associated with Mr. Big: “Initially, when the show became a cultural phenomenon, I was really annoyed by it, because I don’t like to be called a character’s name on the street and actors don’t like [characters] sticking to them. But eventually I thought: ‘Just stop resisting this because it’s not going away. People, for some reason, will always relate you to that part, so just let what you resist persist.’ And if I can be a small part of what people think of as New York City, that’s a really lovely thing.”
Whether SATC contributed to the gentrification of New York: “I feel a little guilty that our show became the look for what New York is. That glamour always existed, but it wasn’t the only look. It’s kind of like what the Kardashians have done to culture in America: millions of people following them because they have a thousand shoes in their closets. No, no – it’s not the same… Sex and the City has a lot to offer in terms of its vision of New York, because people do need a certain glamour. But many neighbourhoods have changed, so it’s a love-hate kinda thing.”
On the lack of diversity in the original series: “It was the time and we weren’t the only ones, right.”
On Willie Garson’s passing from cancer: “No, most of us didn’t know. The last time I saw him was on set and I kick myself because I didn’t really get a chance to talk to him. He was extraordinarily fun and funny and there’s nothing to say but that it’s heartbreaking. It’s sad for everyone, and for the show, because I think he was going to have a really huge storyline. But he’ll be in it to the extent that he filmed. Oh God …”
On Kim Cattrall & SJP’s beef: “I have to tell you, I have absolutely no idea what [Kim’s] thinking is, or her emotions. I do know that I’m very close with SJ and [Cattrall’s] descriptions of her don’t even come close. I liked her, I thought she was marvellous in the show and some people move on for their own reasons. I don’t know what hers were. I just wish that whole thing had never happened because it was sad and uncomfortable. I just don’t like to see anyone talking down about SJ because she’s a target and people can be nasty. I feel very protective of her and I was not happy about that. That’s all I’ll say about that.”
He hated the SATC movies: “They did pretty well, though. On my side of it, I thought it was less – I was a little uncomfortable with the, um, in the second one, how the issues between Carrie and Big were resolved… I don’t remember [the films], to tell you the truth. I just remember the series being a lot of fun. I saw the movies once at the premieres and that was it.”
Is Mr. Big an alpha male? “I never saw him as an alpha male, that’s so funny that you say that. But it’s true, I do get offers to play these power-broker types. I know how to put on a suit, but my wife put it perfectly when she said: ‘I don’t think people realise that you’re kind of schlubby.’”
He DGAF about The Good Wife: “I don’t feel any connection to [it]. It’s odd, because I know it was well received. I have an emotional void about that part, I don’t know why.”
He loves working on The Equalizer: “I love Queen Latifah. I say this all the time to SJ: I’ve been riding on the coat-tails of female actors for a long time, and it’s carried me along.”
I found the thing about The Good Wife really curious! I watched that show until [redacted] was killed off, and my guess is that Noth has an emotional void about that role because Peter was so badly and inconsistently written. That’s the way it worked with that show – any character “close” to Alicia (Julianna Marguiles) got written in a weird way so as to not upstage Alicia or give anyone else a meaty storyline.
I do think Mr. Big is an alpha male, but mostly he was defined by bringing out the worst in Carrie and she brought out the worst in him. Ugh, they deserved each other. Two self-absorbed messes. And he has been protective of Sarah Jessica for years. They’re good friends. She, um, tends to get along better with men.
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red, Backgrid.
He might be an alleged cheater, but he kills the roles he takes. And in general, he has a good philosophy about things. I love how he admits he rides the coattails of women.
Same. The coat tails line was appreciated. Not enough men admit that.
(*Justin Timberlake*👀👀)
I loved Chris Noth in Law&Order and especially Law&Order: Criminal Intent.
The Criminal Intent re-runs are my favorite Law&Order re-runs. One of my favorites is the when Noth did a killer master class episode of Criminal Intent with Whoopi Goldberg.
Same. I look at him and only see the Law & Order version of him. Big is the epitome of everything I despise but I still find Noth so hot.
Criminal Intent is by FAR the best L&O. He was great. Annabella Sciorra was great. Kathryn Erbe!!! And I agree, he’s hot as Logan and not at all as Big.
I’ve seen Chris Noth on the street in NYC, and I agree with his wife, when he’s not working, he’s a bit of a schlub, but like Tom Hiddleston, the man knows how to wear a suit.
Just look at his instagram. There is “Chris in costume” and “Chris with his kids” and it’s kind of hard to believe that they are actually the same person.
My husband has similarly worn t-shirts. I’ve tried telling him that they should only be worn to walk the dog before the sun rises, they aren’t even really suitable to be worn to the hardware store.
I agree that his role in TGW was all over the place, but I always enjoyed him as Peter Florrick. Also, just because he and SJP got along doesn’t mean Kim Cattrall had the same experience with SJP. Obviously not.
Exactly. As I said to a friend of my bully—”Of course you like her—you’re not her target.”
Good point. If bullies bullied everyone it wouldn’t work out for them. They have targets and try to have their non targets on their side. Not sure what happened on satc but sjp definitely could have been cruel to kc without that being loud and obvious.
Yes, the “They are nice to me, so they can’t be mean” defense is so weak and ridiculous.
Of course SJP is nice to him, she doesn’t see him as a rival who’s stealing her spotlight.
Just because Chris Noth didn’t have the experience Kim Cattrall did with SJP, doesn’t mean it wasn’t that reality for Cattrall!!! That was her experience and hers alone! No one else can express the feelings on the receiving end of that dynamic other than Kim. People can comment if they want, but they don’t know what it is was really like. I wish people would just STFU about it at this point. I get that many fans were upset Cattrall didn’t want to join the SATC franchise again, but Jesus, after what they did to her character in that God awful second movie, I can’t blame her. I watched the first two episodes of this new series (won’t touch on the spoiler – but I saw it coming even from the trailer) …I don’t know, some very cringey moments indeed. But I will always remember SATC as the original HBO series. It’s best to remember it that way IMO.
Just watched the first episode of And Just Like That. I don’t know if I want to continue due to the spoiler mentioned above. PLUS, there were just SO MANY cringe-worthy moments – like, honestly, the entire episode. I can’t decide if they KNOW the old show was super white and privileged and they’re showing how absurdly white privileged it was by incorporating these cringe moments OR if they think they’re really trying and redeeming themselves. Satire or serious? I think it’s the latter, which continues to show how tone deaf they really are. That said, the show defined my early 20s, so I connect it to that time in my life and what I thought being an adult would be, so I do have a soft spot for it.
Also my take away. By minute 16 of the first episode, I wanted to crawl under my sofa. So cringy and racist, they really make Miranda and Charlotte awful in the first two episodes. Nobody upstages SJP, right?
It seems like Kristen Davis forgot how to play Charlotte or something. It’s really weird. All of her lines are delivered in a way that’s just….off. But then I thought maybe it’s the face work and lip filler that are making her sound weird. Her lips come away from her face, they’re upturned, like a duck. And my husband noticed that her lips are extra wide now, like Aerosmith lips. The combo is really messing with me as I watch and she just sounds weird, like she can’t figure out how to speak like Charlotte anymore.
on Steven colbert KD basically said they reason they came back was to rectify the racial issues the show had in the past. The show did race very badly regardless of the times.
Giving every main character a token POC friend is kind of a weird way to go about rectifying it though. I definitely think there needed to be more diversity, but it seems like they’re following a recipe, almost, where every single white person must be balanced by their own special, unique POC who likes them. It just so happens that every single one of these three ladies happens to meet a POC who becomes the most important person in their lives (besides each other and their families) all at the same time? It seems so contrived. Like they’re trying very hard to make sure each actress has equal on screen time with black/brown people as with white people, as opposed to striving for more of a balance in the show overall. They’re all so evenly spaced: we each get one POC in our life. Why can’t Carrie have 1 POC, Miranda has 2, and Charlotte has 0 or something like that that would make it a little more believable and natural and less like they were trying to spread their POC cast out evenly among every scene and with every character.
I feel like I’m not explaining this well at all. But they’ve made it so obvious and such a talking point of the show, that it’s almost distracting, like they’re all carrying around a person shaped cardboard sign that says “I’m not racist, this show isn’t racist, I have a black friend!”
Yeah I watched the 2 episodes last night and it wasn’t great. From the mentions of the pandemics that feel forced (mostly because we’re totally still in the middle of it so it’s weird seeing it mentioned as if it’s a thing of the past) to Miranda’s acting like a fool in her class and Charlotte’s fixation on matching dresses or explaining Samantha’s absence: it’s bad. It’s also a good reminder that for an ex-sex columnist, Carrie has always been ridiculously prude. And then there’s the “spoiler” that was predictable and frustratingly preventable. I was almost screaming at my TV. Sam is missing, she’s always been the best character.
Right there with you; I was screaming at the TV. I was like DO SOMETHING!! Ugh
Samantha is sorely missed, I don’t understand why Miranda is acting like that, she used to be so on it, so confident (at least at work), and now this. Also, Steve losing his hearing, WTF, they’re not that old, that’s unnecessary, I think.
PS: Will still watch the entire series, unless they REALLY fuck up (like I walked out of the theater during SATC 2).
Steve losing his hearing is one of the few things that actually makes sense: bars are often incredibly loud places so I could imagine that hearing loss might happen. Everything else is ridiculous. I’ll probably still watch, but I’m not sure, depends on next week’s episode
@ Arpeggi, I watched the 2 episodes last night and that was enough for me. KD forgot how to be Charlotte, CN sounded like an utter fool, which she isn’t and the way they portrayed KC’s of Samantha was such an utterly disrespectful choice of how they played it out. In addition to that, all of a sudden Charlottes character has one WOC as a friend and Miranda’s is having difficulty conversing like a woman that was seen as strong, self sufficient and mature. But the episodes portrayed Miranda’s character like a bumbling idiot!! It was painful to watch. I only watched it to try and fall asleep, but it didn’t happen.
As for the interview by Noth, I respect that he acknowledged how he has been riding the coattails of women in his career but he has NO idea what KC experienced with SJP and her mean girls bully antics did to her and how she felt isolated during so much of the sitcom and movies. So unless you have spoken to both women to hear their point of view without bias, then please STFU and sit down. Men have no idea how cruel women can be to other women.
The only bright spot was seeing Willie Garson.
I have no use for Big but Det. Logan will always have my heart.
Det. Logan and Lenny, that was a power couple.
Logan and Lenny were a dream team.
Yes! Same here. Lenny and Logan are my favorite detective pair in the law and order franchise. They represent the golden era for me
Ditto
I literally just commented how much I love Logan and briscoe LOL
Det Logan was my first email password when I went off to college. It might still be my wifi password. (I was in a fan group for him back around 1998 online but we were asked to disband after one of the members started stalking him in real life.)
I’m not even sure why, but the whole Kim/SJ beef has turned me off this entirely. I loved satc when it came out, I was in high school and uni and watched it with roommates. We loved it, it was very of its time. But I’m not excited for this at all, I hate that Samantha isn’t a part of it and I couldn’t blame her after the storylines she started getting end of series and in the movies (I saw the first one, but like at a nail salon or something.) I think it had its time and I wish they had let it be.
Also, I like this Chris Noth interview overall but his diversity answer is as lacking as the actual diversity on the series. Yes others were bad at that time too but that doesn’t excuse it. It was a modern series set in a diverse city and they chose to whitewash it. Just say they regret that choice instead of trying to shift the blame.
Well, its interesting to hear the critics NOW going on about how they hate AJLT. SATC was never a critics favorite, it was savaged for being vacuous, all about nothing, trite, about shallow white women. Go back and read the the critics 20 years ago. Why anyone think they’d like it now. Additionally, the Samantha debacle is not unique to famous TV shows(see, Moonlighting and Shepard/Willis), Golden Girls(Bea Arthur/Betty White). Thats why its called acting.
I never watched the second movie so I can easily pretend it never happened! Haven’t watched the first episode yet but I heard about it, maybe it’s just a cliff hanger and all is well, guess we’ll see. I love Chris Noth from law and order, he definitely knows how to wear a suit!
I also cringe when people use the term Alpha like that, it’s not a thing, even the guy who coined the phrase in that sense for wolf packs took it back. People who describe themselves as alpha are ALWAYS just very loud attention seeking assholes, usually at the expense of other people, and they say “ well I’m an alpha I can’t help it”, yes you actually can.
“People who describe themselves as alpha are ALWAYS just very loud attention seeking assholes, usually at the expense of other people, and they say “ well I’m an alpha I can’t help it”, yes you actually can.“
+1
I think this won’t be a popular opinion here, but I think it’s important to have women-led stories like this, with characters, flaws and all, who allow a window into our shared humanity, dealing w aging, losses, disillusionment, anger, etc. all while still trying to grow and support each other…and maybe bravest of all daring to still be seen. There is so much in our culture now that is just so hateful toward women, at all ages and stages of our lives, and in ways we didn’t fully understand or see when the show first aired. Is this show perfect, no, but I’m really glad it exists and I hope we see much more like it.
Agreed. Candace Bushnell’s book of the same name, on which the series was based, made no apologies for HER story, even as it became a bestseller critics tore to shreds. Women have to right to talk, write see stories that relate their life. MEN having been doing it unapologetically forever.
Agree completely, especially with things like aging. SJP has been criticized for daring to age naturally and it’s sickening. Our culture is youth obsessed and it disturbs me more and more as I get older, mainly because I feel more confident than I ever have. I expected to feel haggard and dried up and sad about wrinkles, but it’s the exact opposite, same for all of my friends, so why are older women frowned upon and degraded so much? So women will continue spending billions on cosmetics and surgical procedures? So men can keep going after “young and tight” young women and it’s acceptable?! It’s all about men and sex, it’s gross.
So glad to hear that for you and your friends. I’ve been thinking about this and feeling this way too, empowered, alive! Maybe once we’re past child-bearing age tho we’re less easily controlled, less of a vessel, and maybe that’s what’s really threatening… Even just the discussion of hair as a signifier of age, race, conformity or not, was such an interesting start in the first 2 shows. Again, was it perfectly done, no, but how many imperfect men-led shows (and so much else in the culture) get to exist without question.
Jess –
I think it’s a combination of both of those. The cosmetics industry only exists on selling you the impossible. Looking good is never impossible. Loving yourself is never impossible. De-aging, though, that’s impossible.
But even in the days before the current version of the cosmetic industry, youthfulness was still valued in women, and I do think part of it is that mature women put up with less crap. (And for most of history women didn’t have the option of leaving their philandering husbands, so men could get the best of both worlds).
I wonder if we have to credit. SATC a bit that an amazing show like Sex Lives of College Girls can be made. And yet there’s an irony that Mindy Khaling has created characters that are the antithesis of the SATC women. The brilliance of the show is in how much these young women are embracing their own development as humans every minute.
@Bettyrose Ohhh, I am in love with The Sex Lives of College Girls, I agree with you.
I like your comment, Sue Denim.
I’m not even sure I’ll be able to hate watch this show.
And Just Like That is good. The non-white characters are great and Samantha isn’t really missed until Carrie brings her up. Then it becomes awkward. But besides that: the show stepped it’s chatte up.
I didn’t like how they basically had the characters of Carrie, Miranda, and Charlotte speak about the character of Samantha in exactly the same way the actresses would be speaking about/explaining away Kim Catrall’s absence. It seemed like a weird moment where they were using the characters to explain why Kim Catrall is a big meanie who doesn’t want to participate and who can’t take a joke and who took everything so personally. It was gross to me. Especially since we’re not getting Kim/Samantha’s POV about what happened, and we just get SJP (supposedly as Carrie) telling the audience that Kim Catrall (er, Samantha, she means) basically just ghosted her for no real reason and refuses to participate in the fiend group anymore, all while Kristin and Cynthia (er, Charlotte and Miranda) stand there and nod and agree and validate that this is the true story, this is exactly what happened, it’s all just that Kim (Samantha) is overly sensitive and values her career and her ego over her friends (SATC coworkers).
I’ve read the description and it sounds like gaslighting, a cheap shot by SJP and Michael Patrick King. Just leave Kim and the Samantha character alone. Just seeing the pix of SJP on this page make me glad I’m boycotting it. Looks like Carrie’s hammy drama queen gesticulating.
I watched the first two eps last night, and had the same cringey feeling I had during the movies. It’s so out of touch and I’d be embarrassed to be around those women. They did Samantha DIRTY (no way she’d hold on to a grudge like that), and what happened to Miranda? Allowing her son to just constantly have sex in their home but then she goes OFF on Che at the funeral for giving him a little weed? Nope, not buying it. Charlotte is more plastic than a Barbie doll, and I’m not just talking about her face. Her interactions with her family are so artificial and unbelievable. And Carrie asking Big, after how many years together…20? if he masturbates was so odd and child-like. Considering how amorous they make the two of them during the kitchen scene, and that she was supposed to be this spicy sex columnist, that question just felt off. We all do it, we’ve probably all done it with our partners, stop infantilizing Carrie and let her be a big girl again.
That being said…I’ll def keep watching because I’m 27 weeks pregnant in a pandemic so I’m hunkering down for a few more months.
I agree about Charlotte/Kristin Davis. Her face was super distracting and it is did seem as if she physically had a hard time speaking (not to mention the flat delivery of her lines). I am not a fan of how her character has changed over the years. She is by far the most self-absorbed, immature, shallow one of the bunch now. I also got a little annoyed at all the ‘we’re so old now’ references. They are not old and they have all aged beautifully (aside from Kristin Davis).
@wordnerd LOL, I totally agree about your take of that masturbation scene with Big/Carrie, like WTF? This is the hot and spicy couple from series?? As if masturbating within your relationship is something weird, are you kidding me? That was so pathetic to me! Like oh wow, look how out of the box Carrie is being…yeah not so much – considering this is supposed to be a married couple of decades!
I watched & also cringed.
I always liked Miranda….they wrote her like an ignorant moron.
I dunno about all this other stuff (never saw SATC or the movies and I won’t start, just not my thing) but I DO know that Chris Noth wears a suit very..well. VERY well indeed. *fans self*
I hate watched it yesterday and while the show is desperately trying to atone for its sins by making fun of itself for being so white and clueless, Miranda’s casual racism is horrifying. How good are we meant to feel that a woman in her 50s in NYC is only now confronting her privilege and ignorance? Too little, too late.
“I’m not racist, I’m just saying and doing racist things *because* I’m afraid of coming off racist ‘in this climate.’”
In this climate!?
Like she knows she’s the most anti racist person ever but it’s scary out here for white people because we’re all just one comment away from being shunned and cancelled for saying the wrong thing, but we can never know what the wrong thing is because the wrong thing just keeps changing arbitrarily as those scary POC look for ways to scream “Ha! Gotcha!” at well meaning white women. *shudder* It just didn’t seem like Miranda. I know they want to address the way they handled race before, but they’re over correcting, making everything about how scary it is to be a nice white woman in front of black people just trying to prove how nice and anti racist you really are.
Maybe just treat the POC in your shows like they’re real people and that it’s not some kind of stressful proof-of-goodness test anytime your white characters have to share a scene with them.
You’d be surprised. I have an ex friend born and raised in Toronto where 1/2 the city are immigrants and she would make casual racial comments like it was nothing. She was in her late 40s! That is one of the many reasons we are no longer friends.
@andrea I’m not surprised about your Toronto friend one bit. I lived in NYC for almost 20 years – kept telling white people of the casual racism I encountered from other white people there, no one wanted to hear it.
Unfortunately, the limousine liberal trope is very true, and not just about money.
A lot of white ppl like being in very diverse places as a *background* for THEM. It’s part of *their* sophistication, *their* cosmopolitan world view, to live amongst the diversity.
So they’re extremely satisfied with the most rudimentary cliched understanding of the PoC around them. They then feel that being around their Haitian doorman, Filipina nanny, African American office receptionist, South Asian doctor, Dominican maid… means they KNOW the stereotypes are somehow *true* universally. So they feel totally free to authoritatively say racial things or make jokes.
I’m clearly Poc, darker than Meghan. but I would tan very dark and wear my 3a hair naturally in the humid summer. I got paler and blow dry straight in winter. So summers meant being asked “what’s your other half?” Or being taken for Caribbean entirely. Winter meant being taken for Persian (ie, rich and not scary middle eastern), North Indian, etc.
(Fyi I’m 100% non of these things. I’m not even mixed)
I’m saying all this bc I’d brace myself for rudeness, dismissiveness, being talked over, being literally pushed aside on subway platforms, unfriendly stares in the summer. White people were much friendlier and helpful in the winter.
Sure this is anecdotal. For 20 years. And my white friends just didn’t want to hear it. That includes my white ex mother in law who married a PoC. If other white ppl were like that to me, their friend/Dil, then were *they* like that to other PoC strangers and acquaintances? Better to not think about it.
I now live in a city in the south. It’s incredibly diverse but there is no *knowingness* about it. If that makes sense? The avg person just tries to get by, has no expectations of being cool, and is oblivious to image. They’re churchy and sometimes cringe-y (who still thinks U2 is cool?!) but they’re shockingly kind. And the racist ones advertise that fact so… Life is easier to navigate.
Miranda’s casual racism is horrifying. How good are we meant to feel that a woman in her 50s in NYC is only now confronting her privilege and ignorance? Too little, too late. — This is REALITY, there are plenty of people like her who think they’re not racist, don’t do racist things and they are and they do. As a black woman, I’ m glad that through that behavior right there on the table. Let’s not act all shocked like people don’t behave this way and there’s something wrong with point it out. Maybe someone out there will catch themselves….
@Melon – I don’t mean to suggest it’s not real. And I see your point that maybe it’s speaking to exactly who needs to hear it. I’m not the target audience in the sense that I’ve always hated the show and was hate-watching it now. But I am a city born and raised white woman in my late 40s, so I hate that they want me to identify with these soulless nitwits. I’ve always cared more about social justice than designer shoes. They could have skipped that entire horrifying scene and still had Miranda approach the prof after class to privately confess to feeling out of place.
I watched two episodes last night. If you fast forward through certain parts it’s okay. I didn’t like how they handled Samantha they basically called her mean girl-ish and petty and the character was never portrayed like that. A better send off would have been she got back together w/ Smith. He did a play on the West End, got a TV show and she’s there with him as a producer or doing PR for it. I could swallow that. WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO MIRANDA!!!! Who allows their 17yr old to have loud , picture shaking sex with their SO in their house? What kind of kid would even do that?? She has a drinking problem. The stuff with her Professor I understand because I was going through that last yr during the protests. All of a sudden white people who barely spoke to me were tripping over themselves to email me and ask me how I’m doing. Look, if were just colleagues and not friends before (I’m ok with that BTW), please keep that same energy now. As Dre sang on Blackish–What a friend we have in Google……
Logan was my fav ever on law and order! Him and briscoe were my fav partners ❤️ I also quite like how he openly doesn’t like the movies and just says so LOL
Logan was such a different character than Big. He was gritty, blue collar, sensitive, and sexy. Actually, though, Big was the least problematic part of this crazy reboot. I found him appealing for the first time.
If this show were easy to access on Netflix I’d probably watch it. I might fast-forward though. I remember the movies, especially the second one, being really bad.
But I wouldn’t make the effort to go to another streaming service just to see it. It’s funny watching all of the spoilers get revealed in headlines on the internet. By the time you see “spoiler alert” you’ve kind of figured out what’s happened just by looking at a photo. It’s hard to avoid.
SJP mean-girled Kim Cattrall horribly, in fact so did the other two. Once SJP took over producing SATC, Kim’s character devolved into a cartoonish, sex-crazed bimbo, which created a great deal of friction between them. It’s clear the whole pack of them ganged up on Kim so no wonder she finally let SJP have it when she very publicly sent her condolences via IG after her brother’s death. That was an insensitive, intrusive and tacky thing to do. Kim for the win.
Episode 2 spoiler:
Omg, I now wonder if that whole situation with Kim calling out SJP for her public display of “friendship” after Kim’s brother died when really SJP had not been a good friend and was nothing but a mean girl to Kim, was the inspiration behind Samantha sending flowers to Carrie in episode 2 and Carrie accepting them overly graciously, with tears in her eyes, thanking Samantha by text for such a thoughtful gesture even though she and Samantha weren’t really friends anymore and weren’t speaking at the time. I wonder if SJP wrote that in there specifically to show Kim that that’s how you’re “supposed” to respond when someone—even an estranged friend who has cut you off and you’re having beef with at the moment—reaches out with a very public and showy display of their condolences when you’re dealing with grief.
I thought that was taking petty to a whole other level. SMD. Funny thing, I’ve met both of them and they’re both delightful. Some people bring out the worst of each other though ,separately they’re fine together they’re oil and gas.
I think SJP was jealous of Kim, both the attention that Samantha’s character got and Kim’s elegance. I think it drove SJP crazy for years that KC refused to do any more SATC, wouldn’t budge. I have no problem believing that Cynthia Nixon and Kristin Davis followed SJP’s lead because they wanted to return to the SATC money trough.
I’m never going to jump all over someone about when they became woke. Miranda is kind of experiencing that late in life but that’s probably accurate for a lot of people. It’s a little cringe to watch but she’s learning and making mistakes. I just hate how they wrote her like this. And for the record, I didn’t even notice her gray hair. I’m glad aging was brought up Bc it is over a decade later and welp sh*t, people age.
Kristin Davis’ mouth was super distracting. I wish actresses would just stop with the fillers and plastic surgery. It’s so unrealistic to cling on to youth in your mid-50s so embrace it!
The storylines with POC are a little out of place but it’s nice to see more representation. Where are all the Asians?!
I really miss Sam but it’s awful how they worked in why she was missing. It’s as if SJP the person is explaining her side. She’ll always be the victim, right? Talk about someone who’s out of touch.
I remember hearing stuff about The Good Wife and JM in particular. Was there quite a bit of tea there?
The breakout character was the firm’s female PI, I think her name was Kalinda? Anyway on the show besties, in their off hours she disliked JM so much that she had them write her off the show. Collective stories that I’ve heard about JM is that she’s not someone who others find likeable.
Not just written off, but in such a way that even though the characters were supposed to be sitting SIDE BY SIDE, TALKING, *each* filmed *separatel* and it was edited together to make it look like they were sitting together having this conversation.
There is no logic to how they are spinning Samantha’s absence. She was amazing at what she did, had a roster of clients and I’m supposed to believe the amount of money Carrie’s usually broke ass would have brought to Samantha’s business was enough to cut all their friends off? To say nothing of the fact that Samantha is the last one of them to ditch a friend over money or business, unless of course, Carrie screwed Samantha’s business over…..
Let’s talk about Susan-Sharon saying loudly at the funeral the truth for all to hear: Is everyone forgetting how crappy he was to her?
Yeah that was hysterical!! Let’s face it, that is #facts. Big treated Carrie like crap for the entire SATC series. But I read somewhere that character (Susan Sharon) comes back and some more dirt is revealed about Big…I’m sure it ain’t good LOL
If Kim is the only person, man or woman, who has ever had an issue with SJP, maybe Kim is the problem? Kim is the Polanski defender, after all, so I have no qualms thinking her judgement suspect in other areas.
She is not the only one, there have been many stories about SJP over the years.
But what’s really telling to me is that she is bff with Andy Cohen
I’m going to be honest that while there are cases where I think women are suspect when they can’t get along with other women, I do think there’s something to be said about the fact that women can be just as bad as men as checking the behavior of assertive women. I tend to be very plain spoken, and I’ve noticed that I sometimes tend to have more problems with women than I do men in a lot of social situations, especially (and unfortunately) in liberal circles. We’ve done a decent job of addressing the overt issue of sexism with younger men but not so much with women internalizing more insidious sexism.
I don’t think it’s something inherently female; I think it’s something we internalize through socialization, but I’ve encountered it enough myself that I tend to want receipts on whether a woman is obviously misogynistic or if she’s actually coming up against internalized misogyny in other women. I know she and Kim don’t get along, but sometimes people just clash personality wise. It’s not necessarily a reflection of Cattrall being a total victim or SJP a total villain.
I was maybe one day gonna hate-watch AJLT, but the reviews have been sooo bad, so much mention of cringe, that I have decided that I will never bother. I will just hate-read the reviews instead. #TeamKimCattrall
I was too young to watch this show when it originally aired and only saw parts of it later on late night re-runs. Honestly, Samantha was the best part, can’t for the life of me fathom why they brought it back without her. Maybe people who were older than me better connected with the show or something, I dunno. I never found it that special tbh. There were so many better shows in the 90s.
The man can wear a suit, generally. But I will never forget how short his pants were at the end of the the first SATC movie when he proposed. Horrid. What on earth were they thinking?