As we heard, the Duchess of Cornwall will be inducted into the Order of the Garter, which is the highest honor in the British Honours system. Was it a surprise? Eh. Maybe, but it’s been clear for seventeen years that Prince Charles will do anything to ensure that Camilla is elevated, praised, loved and embiggened, and most importantly, Camilla will be declared Queen Consort beside him. The Order of the Garter is significant on its own, but in the grand scheme of Prince Charles’s need to make Camilla his “Queen,” it’s really just the latest royal gambit. It’s especially timely because after slowly growing Camilla’s “popularity” for years, Charles and Camilla both took a major hit when The Crown’s fourth season came out and new generations were introduced to how terribly they treated Diana. Now the Daily Mail columnist Hugo Vickers is underlining what all of this means for Cam, in a piece called “Now there can be no doubt – Camilla WILL be Charles’s queen.”
The appointment of the Duchess of Cornwall to the prestigious Order of the Garter is, at its heart, a unifying gesture. It comes at the beginning of what will be the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee year, binding together the inner circle of the Royal Family after 12 months of turbulence, controversy and deep personal loss. But, more than that, it paves the way for the Duchess to become not only Queen by right when Prince Charles succeeds to the throne, but Queen by name.
That is surely what will now happen. And with this latest announcement, there is no greater honour – or better indication of the respect in which she is held by the Queen.
Tellingly, it also gives the Duchess an elevated position in her own right should she outlive her husband. There can now be no doubt: Camilla is central to the future of the British monarchy.
The gesture is the latest in a long line of advancements for the Duchess, who – it is fascinating to observe – changed from hated mistress to supportive wife more or less overnight when she married Charles in April 2005. It was as though, in becoming an HRH, she became a different person. But her acceptance did, in fact, come in subtle steps.
As Charles’s wife, for example, she could be adorned with the family jewels and was soon to be seen wearing Margaret Greville’s magnificent tiara and five-strand necklace, which the society hostess and philanthropist had bequeathed to the Queen Mother. Further evidence of the family’s admiration came when Camilla was given the Royal Family Order in 2007 – an image of the Queen worn on a pale-yellow moiré ribbon – which is bestowed on most HRHs except, notably, the Duchess of York and Princess Michael. She was honoured with the Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order in 2012, which is again usually given to Royal Ladies.
But her appointment to the Privy Council in 2016 was unprecedented. The body of trusted advisers to the Sovereign includes all Cabinet Ministers, the Queen’s private secretary and certain members of the Royal Family, including Prince Philip. Charles was appointed in 1977 and the Duke of Cambridge in 2016. It’s worth noting that Queen Mary and the Queen Mother – the last two wives to Kings – were never Privy Counsellors. But it is the Order of the Garter, founded in 1348, which is Camilla’s greatest achievement to date.
I actually enjoy reading about this kind of royal history, about which queen consorts got what, and the “schedule” of Camilla’s many honors. That is genuinely interesting to me. All that being said, I found some of these statements very curious and almost ominous. “Tellingly, it also gives the Duchess an elevated position in her own right should she outlive her husband.” Does Salt Island not understand the kind of bad vibes they’re putting out into the world? Why is the institution preparing for Camilla, the widowed queen consort? Is there something about Charles’s health we should know about? And think about what is really being said – Camilla needs her own position codified and set in stone before King Incandescent With Rage assumes power. Hm. Also: “There can now be no doubt: Camilla is central to the future of the British monarchy.” She’s 74 years old!!! Is it ageism to say that whatever happens over the next decade, that old wine bag is only “central” to Charles and no one else?
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Charles ramping up the Queen Camilla PR machine.
Yep. The Rottweiler, the homewrecker, the cheater. Hard pass.
Yeah so you can cheat, be an asshole and still be Queen of England. Lovely. Sad.
@Nev, yep. Apparently. She is no unsightly. I’m sorry, but … given what we know of how she treated Diana, well. Never queen, queen consort.
They both cheated. If Charles can be King despite his own moral failings then Camilla can certainly be his Queen. There is support for Charles in the UK and his insistence on having Camilla by his side has earned him respect.
Most Kings have cheated. The Queen’s father may be an exception but throughout history Kings have had mistresses.
Diana moved on only after Charles dumped her. She went into the marriage in good faith. Charles had Dale and Camilla watching him marry Diana. Diana had no exes to speak of to watch her marry Charles. What Diana did is not in the same category as Charles and Camilla. They were meeting up throughout the Wales marriage (they were seen at fox hunts and Charles valet Stephen Barry noticed Charles calling Camilla during the honeymoon with Diana). I don’t believe that “many” Kings cheating does not make it OK. Also George V was faithful to Queen Mary. Charles would have earned more respect IMO if he had just married Camilla and not brought in Diana so he could beget heirs.
Yes I know they BOTH cheated. He’s an asshole too. The article is about her. Two jerks reaching the top of “whatever”. I’m sorry Diana. Wow.
Well Anne Boleyn was a cheater and became Queen. Didn’t end well of course.
Anne Boleyn didn’t cheat on anyone (Team Don’t Lose Ur Head).
@Tessa I’m no fan of Charles or Camilla, but it’s worth noting that Diana was a homewrecker too–she had affairs with men she knew were married to other women.
Embiggening ramping up from CH house for the Rottweiler of Cornwall, due to continuing embiggening for the Buttoned-up Mutton of Cambridge. The big cats can NOT be in the same cage together it seems! The circling has started!
Let the games begin!!
(getting another cup of coffee and settling in to watch!)
I am enjoying the grim & (almost) silent battle for the throne between CH & KP. Both houses are using the same tactics; bigging up the women of each house beyond recognition. Simultaneously KP&CH men are leaking nasty stories about each other (cash for honours vs serial cheating)
I thought the media is reading this as if he was ramping up PR for her. To the contrary, I thought this felt like prenup to me. She needs to secure herself should she outlive him and not be thrown out of the estate without any means, and the firm/charles needs to make sure she doesnt get powers that shouldnt be one of a regular queen that wasnt a mistress who got the main spot because the true wife has passed after a divorce she and the cheating husband have created. He needs her to be elevated enough to get the respect from commoners and be worth her title as queen or consort, but I think if she will never get to be “queen” or they will need to revise the definition of queen and powers conferred to a queen. I think they’ll just create a new position for her. it’s too complicated and difficult to revised whatever a queen is.
A monarch is either a king or a queen, such as Betty & before her, her father.
The spouse of a monarch is the monarch’s consort. In betty’s case, Phillip was the queen’s consort – NB: not a “king” because in their world, “king” is higher than “queen” (nevermind the sexism.) They didnt want to further emasculate him by referring to him as a “queen’s consort” even tho thats what he was.
When charles is king, camilla will be the king’s consort. She’ll be referred to as “queen” but its not the kind of queen that the monarch, betty, is.
This is why kHate’s sycophants love to talk about her “preparing to become queen.” They love the notion…it will be her highest achievement/take THAT! Meghan (insert rolled eyes here). But its NOT betty’s kind of queen….just the (putative) king (bulliam’s) consort.
Yet the derangers swear Cate is the next queen. Cate or Cam. Both so mediocre.
Every member of the RF is horrible in their own merit.
Camilla is not a young gal and it would surprise me if she is around for any significant length of time after Charles ascends the throne.
She might outlive him, tho. There are more widows than widowers in the world.
Amazing that Charlie still has a modicum of dignity considering he’s been publicly exposed as having a desire to be a tampon in Camilla’s vagina! Really??? How does a so-called King-in-Waiting live that down???
Look what happened to Raine when Diana’s father died. I doubt there’s any love lost between William and Camilla so Camilla needs her own niche for herself.
I agree. Charles is protecting Camilla if he dies before her because William will throw her out without a care. IMO Charles is pretty much telling the Brits she will be my Queen so get over it.
I pretty much get the idea that Charles is ill. Those swollen fingers may mean some kind of disease. He may well be protecting Camilla just in case she has to answer to a vengeful William.
Totally Agree!
I do not understand this article because Camilla doesn’t need the order of the garter to have an elevated position secured. She’ll always have the titles her husband held, as his widow as dowager, for the rest of her life. She will be Queen Camilla, the Queen of England, and then, as widow, she would be the Dowager Queen Camilla, although I’m guessing the papers won’t switch because it’s more unwieldy. Don’t get your arcane shit from trash tabloids like most of these stupid Murdoch English papers, because they are SO often wrong.
The female consort of an English king is called the Queen of England. Queen Elizabeth, Queen Mary, Queen Alexandra, etc., etc. Of course yes, technically, they are queens consort and not queens regnant. But it doesn’t matter, they’re Queens of England and they still would have held those titles after their husbands’ deaths. They are most generally known as and called Queen of England, not queen consort of England. A female monarch like Elizabeth II is rare in history. Usually there have been queens consort but they’re still called Queens of England. I feel like trying to say someone is a queen consort and therefore not queen per se is completely wrong in how history has always used it. Whether regnant or consort, a queen is a queen. (Also, what a weird word “queen” is.)
Kate, assuming her husband takes the throne someday, will also be the Queen of England, period. She is not going to be restricted to calling herself “Queen Consort Catherine.” She will be Queen Catherine, period, just like Queen Mary or Queen Alexandra. I am sure we will all call her Kween Konsort Khate and I am all for mocking and agitating against the royals, who are racists and colonialists and protect their own against judgment for the vicious abuse and rape of minors, but realistically in the fuddy duddy, would-be medieval world of the Tory English court, that is not how the style is typically used. This is just how the system works. Some have said she’ll be only queen consort and so she will not be queen, listen, she is a real piece of work, but she is going to be styled as Queen Catherine, the Queen of England, just as almost every other queen consort has been. And she’ll have that title for the rest of *her* life, not just her husband’s.
So, most people here understand all that.
The reason we use Queen Consort to refer to Kate is first of all, mostly a joke. NO ONE here thinks that they are going to call Kate “Queen Consort Catherine.”
It’s brought up because there has been such an emphasis at times in the press on how Kate is learning the ropes for her future role from Queen Elizabeth II, she’s modeling herself after QEII, she’s wearing coatdresses like QEII, etc. And all that misses the point that QEII is the MONARCH, and Kate will never be the monarch. Kate’s role is going to be like Phillip’s, not the current reigning queen.
But also, it was put out when their engagement was announced that she (Camilla) would go by Princess Consort and would not be known as queen (same way she is Duchess of Cornwall in the press et al, even though she IS the princess of wales. So they said at the time of their engagement/marriage that even though Camilla would be queen, she would be referred to as princess consort.) Many of us here have said that was never going to be the case and she will be queen, and here we are seeing charles clearly laying the groundwork for that.
Most people don’t use titles correctly. NOT a knock on anybody because 99% of Brits don’t even know the correct styles. As Becks says, it’s more of a joke rather than people thinking she’ll actually be called Queen Consort.
Camilla will be called queen with the knowledge that she’s queen consort as Elizabeth is queen with the knowledge that she’s queen regnant. There isn’t any need for additional words added to the titles.
I notice a lot of misunderstandings about what Kate will be–especially on social media by her stans. Some call her successor to the Queen which is just not true since the Queen is actually monarch. Something Kate can never be.
@Emma, I’m one who likes to correct on the Queen/Queen Consort thing. It does have to do with the reminder that she will not be the monarch/sovereign however it’s described because there are people confused about that. Kate and Camilla are not replacing Queen E. 2. – their husbands are. It ties in (for some) that gleefully thought Meghan would have to curtsey to Kate someday. There is no have to-it’s optional.
Camilla and Kate are the married-ins and get their positions/titles due to their spouses who are the heirs to the throne. I think many stans in Kate’s case willfully ignore that to push their own agendas. And of course all the PR whitewash about how Kate is so royal, so ready and prepared to be queen and poor Bill just can’t do anything without her just muddies the fact that he will be the future future monarch and she’s just along for the ride. And if he ever divorces her before he should become king, she won’t be queen of anything except for her manor in Buckleberry.
These types of articles make me think the queen’s condition is worse than they are saying.
Agreed. this feels like a very strong push for camilla, like we all need to accept NOW that camilla will be called queen and not Princess, because it’s happening SOON.
I agree, that’s the vibe. The whole Jubilee thingy is a smokescreen by now.
But it’s either Queen Stepmother Camilla or De Facto Queen Mother In Law Carole for the UK (I don’t think Charles will have a super long reign, he doesn’t look that healthy). It’s like chess, Camilla being there with the title stops others from making a number of moves. She’s the lesser of two evils for the courtiers, I think.
I doubt they will make Camilla, Queen Stepmother. She would be Dowager Queen, she did not give birth to royal children I think William may give Michael a title and Carole will then have one of her very own.
I was going to post the same thing. I think Catherine Parr (Henry VIII’s last wife) became “Queen Dowager” after his death.
The others can smell her death. They are jockeying for position (within family precedence, with public sentiment, etc.) and that’s why we recently have so many articles about embiggening Kate, Camilla, Sophie, the Wessex kids, etc. And even William and Charles seem to be competing in the public relations department. I posted before that I wonder whether the queen realizes Charles and William are just waiting for her to die, or if she actually believes they are a loving family. Because the queen seemed to be close to her own parents and sister. I wonder how old she was when her uncle abdicated? It could be that HER (and her father’s) upbringing as someone who wasn’t expected to get the throne, let them have a more normal family relationship?
Liz will be 96 in a little over three months. Whether she’s seriously ill, or primarily frail due to age, her remaining time is limited. I think Philip’s passing was a wake up call for everyone, and suddenly made her mortality seem real too. This was followed by whatever happened last fall that caused her to cut back on her activities. My theory about that last bit is, in addition to any physical issue at play, her staff realized that after the long layoff due to Covid, TQ was no longer capable of keeping up the same routine. Wake up call number two. Betty White was talking about being lucky her health was so good, then out of nowhere…
So, whether TQ is still around for the Jubilee, and for some time thereafter, or not, the Firm sees it’s time to move on to the next phase.
Mrs. Krabapple, the queen was 10 when her father ascended the throne. So I would gather that up until then they had a fairly normal life as far as Royals go who had no expectation that they would inherit the throne. But even after George Vl became monarch, he’d refer to the family as “we four” indicating a very close-knit group.
@windyriver- I hate that you’re right. My grandpa is a few days older than Liz and just as sharp and independent. He suddenly got an infection a few days ago, and he’s been admitted to the hospital with bad news that keeps coming. He was totally healthy at Christmas a couple weeks ago, but 95+ is 95+. Anything can happen in a blink of an eye.
I believe you are right on target that Camilla needs to have her position set in stone before William might come to reign. Speaks volumes about how much Charles trusts his heir, doesn’t it? , that he feels the need to protect his wife from his son.
I think it’s fair for William to have some animosity toward Camilla.
Big time. Without Camilla perhaps never a divorce from Diana.
I mean…Charles kicked Harry and Diana under the bus and then Burger King also treated his brother like dirt. Is it any wonder both don’t trust each other? Good luck to the 3 kids and their future partners. Bea’s and Eugenie’s kids should also stay far away from this bus parade.
can’t blame william if he figuratively throws her out in the cold the minute his father croaks tbh.
this has probably been dealt with ages ago, with Camilla getting a settlement, keeping her residence and financial security for life.
If charles doesnt trust bulliam (and he shouldnt) its also because he knows he himself is not trustworthy.
“Old wine bag.” Damn, Kaiser, you salty this morning!
It’s good strategic thinking on Charles part. There’s a good chance she will outlive him, and he’s wise to protect her from Will-di Amin, who would likely have her catapulted off the Buckingham Palace balcony the moment after Charles takes his last breath. Or launched from a cannon. He’s probably drawing up the plans as we speak, rubbing his hands together and cackling. He probably considers it generous to place a wine barrel on the Mall for her to land in, filled with the cheapest wine in the Palace cellar.
🤣😲😬🤣👏👏👏👏
Damn, LANNE!! 😂😂😂🤣🤣😭😭
But you might right on point on all the evil schemes Bulliam got up his sleeve for dear step-mummy Camilla
I am gasping at that description. All the lols. But really Camilla is all he cares about so trying to protect her from uncertainty once he is gone is a smart move.
I wish he had done the same for Harry, Meghan and his own grandchildren.
The barrel of malmsey in the dungeon scenario, a la the Duke of Clarence? Let’s just fill it up with Camilla’s favorite tipple and have her do a deep dive in the drink.
There’s probably a couple of barrels of malmsey left over from the 1400s tucked away somewhere!
“That old wine bag.” LMFAO 🍷🍷🍷🍷😂😂😂
Camilla will always be Queen once Charles assumes the throne. That’s just part of the British unwritten consititution. A king’s wife is a queen. That’s constitutional convention. The Princess Consort title that was trotted out at the time when he married Camilla was just a PR exercise to appease the traditionalists as well as the large crowd of the Diana faction among his people. I read somewhere in an artile written by a constitional expert that asserted that Princess Consort would be an illegal title unless parliament make an act to create the title specific for Camilla. That would actually open a can of worms, and not just sillliness.
Hold on here.
I thought KATE was “central to the future of the British monarchy”
I see Charles is letting House Middleton and Cambridge know he can play the game too.
Mercy. That family.
Thanks for reminding this British taxpayer of what I am expected to feel grateful for in the future Camiknickers or Buttons Galore! They are role models from the 19th century!
@Lady Digby
Honest question
Who would be worse?
I thought the same thing! I see this as a warning shot to Mumble McMutton, and her disgusting family, that she is NOT central to the future of the Monarchy.
I think we can all agree that the unrelenting campaign of PWT and his useless wife, were certainly seen by Charles as them trying to get him seen as unworthy of his position to become king. Charles knew exactly who was pushing those stories and he is done with these 2, especially Mumbles, with regard to their campaign of creating an atmosphere that Charles will be an awful king, when the facts are that PWT will be the ONE that destroys it.
I hope to see the end of the monarchy in my lifetime well before Basher and Buttons expect to inherit, so they can enjoy a premature “retirement” although I am not sure how Kate will be able to tell the difference between not “working” and having more time to herself as a retiree LOL!
If Charles’s romantic history were fiction the plot would be absurd. After all that Camilla takes a central role in the monarchy? Get the story editor on the line. I need a word.
NO
Camilla and Anne are both women of many faults. I tried to dislike both of them. Then, just to go the extra mile, I put in extra effort and once again tried really hard to dislike both of them. I just could not do it.
Of all the UK HRHs, Camilla and Anne are the only ones I would really want to hang-out with for any length of time.
They work and they seem like no-BS types. That puts them head and shoulders above the rest of the lot.
Yeah they work but just another two white royal women who remain silent and complicit about the mistreatment and bullying of Meghan. No thank you. Anne is a blood princess and I wished she had scolded the rota rats but I guess she only scoffs at them when it comes to her and her family’s personal space and business.
and alexandria, they all benefit from the bullying of meghan and are happy to accept the embiggening of themselves at the downfall of another. so it’s a hard no for me.
Maybe Anne, but not Camilla. Anne works hard. I don’t think though most of the royal women treated Meghan right.
I love this take because that’s how I’ve felt for the longest time. I want to dislike them with all my might, but I come round eventually. I often times wonder about Camilla’s personality, and how come Charles loves her so much.
I never will care for Camilla. It was inevitable to me that she would be Queen Consort. I will never “come around” to her after the way she behaved towards Diana. But also Meghan, since the way she smirked during Meghan and Harry’s wedding. I can never like her. I don’t care for Charles at all but the prospect of King William is rather scary. How much Charles “loves” Camilla is known only to him. If he “loved her” so much he should have been like his great Uncle and not settled for anybody else. Charles did not even want to marry Camilla Shand when he first met her. I am not buying into the great love story spin either.
Anne has her flaws. But I never will like Camilla for the way she treated Diana. And at least Anne did not smirk like Camilla did at Harry and Meghan’s wedding.
…how would we know that? the camera was never on Anne
Her daughter Zara did behave badly. But Camilla giggling and smirking with Kate was just awful.
Eh. I like Camilla more than Anne. Anne struck me as an absolute horrendous snob. Like the Princess Margaret school of snobs.
I don’t like Camilla for cheating, but Charles by far handled it worse with his insensitivity and disdain for Diana. He didn’t even treat Diana like a person worthy of basic respect. Infidelity is wrong, but even I’ll accept that people are not perfect in this regard, as much as we’d like them to be. Charles didn’t need to be the perfect human being, or the perfect husband, or even a faithful husband. He just needed to try and treat Diana kindly, which he failed to do. Not only was he unfaithful, he was an immature, childish jerk on top of everything else, and that’s why I can’t stand him.
Camilla did not hold the power in Charles and Diana’s marriage. Charles did. And bc of the way Charles handled everything, bc he didn’t behave like a gentleman, he successfully threw Camilla under the bus in the eyes of the press and public, and she was savaged for it. Just despicable.
The UK life expectancy is 81 years. C is a smoker, boozer and overweight (especially around the middle). C’s mother died in her early 70s.
UK life expectancy for women is 83.1 and 79.1 for men. It’s based on averages and many people live much longer. Camilla’s mother had severe osteoporosis and Camilla also has the condition but she has excellent healthcare and treatment has improved. Charles is likely to live into his 90s.
Charles’s machinations and manipulations for Camilla highlight his absolute neglect of the Sussexes. He has a well oiled propaganda network in place yet it’s clear that he showed no support at all for them. I’m not even talking public support. If BTS he had let it be known that he disapproved in any way of the coverage maybe the BM would have toned their 💩 down. But no he chose to be silent to maintain the deal he had to protect himself and Camilla. But I shouldn’t be surprised it’s been widely reported that part of his arrangement with the media to rehabilitate Camilla was that he would sell out his sons to the media. Particularly Harry.
@ Catherine, do you think Charles has that type of arrangement? If so, why does he never spill on the Bitter Brother and his lazy wife?
Charles is a coward that hides behind his mother, just like his disgusting brother Andrew does. It’s not surprising that he refuses to stand up to his heir and has allowed his youngest son to be mistreated publicly in the media and the royal family. He has never publicly defended Harry, Meghan, or his grandchildren Archie and Lili. He sees no value in protecting Harry; the only thing that matters to him is becoming King and Camilla, made his Queen Consort.
Charles has had PR people for Camilla since 1997 when he hired Bolland. It’s a shame he could not have done the same with Meghan, the mother of two of his grandchildfren.
This is all about paving the way for Queen Consort Camilla.
💯 but also changing the topic away from the Duke of York’s current predicament and Charles’ own ‘cash for access’ scandal. Oh, look away from those messy reasons to abolish the monarchy, let’s talk about this shiny topic over here.
I’m British and god how I WISH we could get rid of these people! I’m ok with the Queen. She’s done a lot. But all the rest of them can bugger off as far as I’m concerned. I could NOT care less about this old woman! Harry and Meghan were the only inspiring royals and they’ve already abandoned ship. Pack the whole institution in and be done with it I say!
I really don’t think Camilla enjoys this role. Her father guilted Charles into marrying her. I think she would have been quite happy to just be Charles’ girlfriend and see him whenever it was convenient for both of them. So it’s sort of karmic that while she would prefer to be kicking about in the countryside in wellies with her grandkids, she’s stuck having to constantly get gussied up and trotted out and still subject to the press gaze. Somewhere Diana is smiling. I doubt she outlives Charles-but if she does she’s certainly not going to be out there as “central” to the BRF. No one wants that-most of all her.
I think she and Charles have struck a balance of where and how much she works; it’s definitely not constant. Camilla spends a lot of time in the countryside with her kids and grandkids.
She wasn’t even in the top 5 of royal event counts in recent years. People just don’t really notice because she keeps a consistent workload, shows up to the important events, and doesn’t have breathless coverage about her clothes and wiglets every time she leaves the house.
But yeah, if Charles dies first, she’ll happily be on the first train to the countryside, never to be heard from again.
It was Charles who really locked in Camilla. He named her publicly, she was still married to Andrew Parker Bowles and it was unheard of for a royal to name a married woman as his mistress (and Charles did this on international TV no less). I don’t think Camilla had any choice and I t hink she does like the life of a royal. If she did not she’d have rejected Charles after she married another man. She had “perks” of being the royal mistress (even though there were other women around that Charles was involved with like Lady Tryon). I would say she is not central to the monarchy–I doubt Camilla would have been satisfied as “girlfriend” then she would not have had the security of being wife and theoretically Charles could up and marry someone else if there were no commitments.. Charles has to do the actual work. She is consort.
Her father guilted him because Camilla got divorced, and she does not work and therefore doesn’t have her own money. She only got what she got from the divorce settlement, and that was it, I think. Her family is aristocratically descended, but they are not wealthy by any means, so it’s not like she comes from tons of money. By naming her publicly as his mistress, he forced Andrew Parker-Bowles’ hand to get a divorce, which essentially left Camilla without a source of income. Archaic in 1997, yes, but that is the way the aristocracy and their descendants work.
Camilla’s father was right to guilt Charles. Charles cost Camilla a marriage and a livelihood. Yes, she was cheating, and yes, Andrew Parker-Bowles was also f-cking everything that moved, but in spite of all that, they were intending to stay married, even if it was in name only.
And it wasn’t just Camilla who was dealing with the tabloid press fallout of being named as Charles’ mistress, it was members of her family too, including her father. Tabloid photographers and reporters camped outside Bruce Shand’s home, where Camilla was hiding out after the fall out. They would knock on his door and ask him questions, and he’d bark at them to go away and shut the door. He protected his daughter as best as he could, from a situation that could have been avoided if Charles had simply been more discreet. He saw her suffer from it first hand. It’s doubtful the press attention would have been at this level if Camilla had not been named in Charles’ interview with Jonathan Dimbleby.
Hilarious….
This is just the Camilla version of “Kate is ESSENTIAL to the monarchy”. But at least Camilla is married to the first in line and isn’t waiting for 2 people to die before she’s queen. So it makes sense to start putting these pieces out.
Well damn! That comment about Camilla being central to the future of the monarchy sounds like a direct slap in the face to Kate’s numerous assertions that she’s the future of the monarchy. Also, sounds like some serious flexing and warnings to the Dolittles and Middletons to stop with the “Kate is the next queen” propaganda. Especially with the highlighted honors that Camilla has received yet Kate hasn’t. And sounds like she won’t get them from Charles either. Happy birthday Kate! The major smackdowns have begun. Popcorn ready for this ensuing tragi-comedy!
Camilla was consort since 2005. Kate since 2011. I hope she has a long wait. Now if only Charles can put William in his place.
I’ll break it down; Prince Charles is signaling he will be making Camilla his queen consort.
“Camilla needs her position codified and set in stone before King Incandescent With Rage assumes power. Hm. Also: “There can now be no doubt: Camilla is central to the future of the British monarchy.”
And he’s very aware that Willian can’t be trusted regarding respecting Camilla after he’s gone. Charles tries to ensure Camilla is awarded respect within royal circles as the wife of a future and former king. It was clever of him to have such an honor bestowed on Camilla via the Queen signing off on it. Had he done so, after becoming King, it would’ve not gone down well.
The thing is that Charles did not care if William pushed Harry out. But he does care only about how William treats Camilla. Charles probably left a will a long time ago, keeping Camilla from being dependent on William for support. Harry got away from being dependent on William by leaving with his family. Charles had planned that honor for Camilla ages ago. The Queen already signed off on Camilla when she welcomed her to the family.
I stand by my belief that the Greville tiara is the most beautiful of the BRF collection and that it’s perfect in Camilla’s hair.
Camilla has been singing:
Fish don’t fry in the kitchen;
Beans don’t burn on the grill.
Took a whole lotta tryin’
Just to get up that hill.
Now we’re up in the big leagues
Gettin’ our turn at bat.
As long as we live, it’s you and me baby
There ain’t nothin wrong with that.
Bill has been less vocal about blaming Camilla for his parents divorce but there’s no reason to think he hasn’t held onto that resentment. Of course Bill will do everything to separate her from the monarchy when he is king.
Hopefully this will be the only time I take TOB’s side this century.
. Even if William does not want Camilla to be prominent, She won’t have to rely on William for her income. She will be keeping Raymill and be independent of William. And I think Charles already had provided for her children.
Right now is about equidistant between seasons 4 and 5 of The Crown.
“Remember how much you hated us after season 4? Well, wait until Diana actually DIES in season 5 and you’re reminded how heartless the RF was about it! LOL!”
Considering how terribly Charles bungled his response to the previous season, he needs to make some moves in this window while it’s relatively quiet before he does it again in November.
I love what these people get to call an ‘achievement’. How is being given a title by your husband’s mother an ‘achievement’?
Charles famously said that Camilla’s greatest achievement was loving him.
So… yeah. Pretty messed up relationship with the term.
And that goes hand in hand about how Charles is being made “happy” now. Who did he make happy?
So this Greville woman, a supposed philanthropist, left her jewelry collection to the royals (because of their great need?). According to an article I read: “the real ones only, of course—anything under £100 was given to the maid”.
Charles is central to future of monarchy as the next King. I have no doubts Camilla will be Queen Consort. It is up to Charles at this point, and how he deals with William.
Camilla staying in the background and letting Charles have all the attention will be central to him enjoying his monarchy.
These people. Ugh.
Except for those large hats she wears and her looking at the cameras.
Charles would have been better advised to leave Diana out of the embiggening of Camilla. For instance, Penny Junor who is C and C’s friend and wrote she had their cooperation in her biographies of Charles and Camilla, would regularly put down and trash Diana in the same books. If Charles had called off the trashing of the mother of his children and former wife, he would have been better off IMO.And Diana was not able to defend herself then.
Lol! Central to the future ? Home girl is 74 yrs! Gosh
This is crazy. The entire royal family is so horrible, that the BM is constantly putting out fiction pieces to make these people look good. God forbid these royals should actually behave like decent human beings.
I don’t understand. How does getting the Garter of Infinite Whatsits make Camilla any more central to the future of the monarchy? She’s already married to Charles and he’s going to be the next King. And after Charles, William will become the next King. So what difference does it make to the future of the monarchy if they call Camilla Queen Consort or Princess Consort?
The Order of the Garter is so weird. A woman has a wardrobe malfunction at a ball and the king decides to make a bro club themed around that wardrobe malfunction 🤦♀️ Bonkers.
I think some historians have doubted the truth of the origin story. You would think good manners would say pick up the garter quietly and put it out of sight and never mention it again. Royals must not be capable of that though. Maybe Kate can start the order of the tights.
Hahaha those tights!
Or, Order of the Buttons (tm: Celebitchy).
…………….. and looking up to the heavens, laughter could be heard ………..from a giggling Diana. Oh the webs they are weaving!