Prince William & Kate ‘honestly couldn’t be happier as a couple,’ they’re ‘inseparable’

This is Part II of the Mail’s article about and for Prince William’s 40th birthday. Part I was devoted to how William feels about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. That was a huge chunk of the Mail piece, but notably, there’s a lot of work being done to talk about the Cambridge marriage and how, despite rumors to the contrary, William and Kate are fine. It does feel like acknowledging those “rumors” actually emphasizes that the royal reporters have been hearing it too, and for now they’re keeping their mouths shut because KP gives them so much in the way of leaks and commissioned stories. The minute KP shuts down their access though, I wonder what Rebecca English will write? Some highlights:

William hasn’t always been as dull and dutiful as some would think. ‘Let’s just say that, like his younger brother, William enjoyed himself immensely in his teens and 20s. Unlike Harry, though, he was never caught!’

His future in the Firm: ‘He hasn’t rubbed his hands in glee [at what is to come], but has looked at it in a dutiful way,’ says Lowther-Pinkerton. ‘One of the lovely things I remember early on was this sense of disbelief that people were really interested in who he was or what he was doing. But he quickly decided that if they were, he was going to turn it to whatever good use he could.’

He loves being a husband & father: ‘He just loves being a dad and having a settled family around him. Having children always puts things into perspective, and doubly so for him,’ says one friend. ‘Whatever happens ‘at work’, he has to go home and be a ‘normal’ person for the sake of his kids, which has made him more at peace with the reality of his other life.’

The Keen Anchor: Throughout all of this, Kate, 40, has been not just his wife, but his best friend and ‘anchor’. Their relationship has, inevitably, been picked over at length and subjected to scrutiny and gossip. I have discussed this with several in William’s circle and all are of the same opinion. ‘It’s just b******s,’ says one. ‘They honestly couldn’t be happier as a couple. You can’t get a cigarette paper between them. They are so tight, just inseparable.’

The inseparable Keens: ‘They spend all their time together. They lunch together every day, they sit and watch television together every evening. They do go out and see their own friends, of course, but they spend an inordinate amount of time together and live a very conventional married life,’ says one who knows them well. ‘They aren’t a flashy couple — he likes his motorbikes but that’s about it. They are both very outdoorsy people and spend every minute they aren’t working with their children. That’s what they really care about.’

William admires Kate: ‘When you speak to William, he’s actually quite puritanical in his attitude when he talks about his parents’ marriage and what went wrong. It hugely affected the way he approached his own relationship with Catherine and why it took so long for him to settle down. He wanted it to be with the right person and [for it to last] for ever. William is very conscious that if it wasn’t for him, the man she fell in love with, Catherine would be living a nice life in the country and bringing up a family away from the spotlight. There’s a bit of snobbery, sadly, when you marry in from outside. It’s a lot better now than it was, but William is still very protective of his wife. The way he sees it, she is as important to the institution as he is. He genuinely admires the way she has just dug her heels in and stuck with it.’

William the Incandescent: There are some I know who have had angry run-ins with him over the years and describe him as controlling and suspicious — someone who sees an ‘agenda’ everywhere, particularly in terms of the palace machinery (something he has in common with Harry). But those individuals, it should be stressed, are few and dealt with William as a younger man, when he was still railing against authority — and, particularly, his father.

[From The Daily Mail]

I’m not sure “William seethed with rage constantly, but that was in his 20s” is the right cover story? Especially since the other half of English’s article is about how angry William is with Harry and Meghan. As for all of the stuff about Kate and their family… what William is communicating is that he’s not divorcing Kate. It’s that simple. Their marriage won’t be over until he says, and right now, he’s fine with Kate and they have their arrangement worked out. And no, they aren’t attached at the hip. The move to Windsor will only re-emphasize how little time they spend together. This has always been the case – it’s clear that Carole Middleton and Nanny Maria are raising the kids, while Kate obsesses over her Diana and Meghan look-books and William is ass-deep in Norfolk rose bushes.

Oh, and this is really funny to me: “There’s a bit of snobbery, sadly, when you marry in from outside. It’s a lot better now than it was, but William is still very protective of his wife…” This is William acknowledging that Kate is still unpopular and unaccepted by the aristocrats. Maybe Kate wouldn’t be victimized by Toff snobbery if she wasn’t trying to bully William’s aristocratic mistresses?

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  1. Noki says:

    Clearly the VERY obvious and rude ‘checked out’ demeanor of William was started to get too loud.

    • Lemons says:

      Yep, it sounds like too many RRs followed up on William running away from Kate at each of their Jubbly events. Probably too many questions about the household makeup in the new Windsor home lol

      • equality says:

        Surely not. You can’t get a “cigarette paper” between them.

      • Dee says:

        Is that “cigarette paper” a dig as well? Is Will or Kate or both of them still smoking?

      • manda says:

        @Dee–I was wondering as I was reading the article if she was still a closet smoker! I would think so. It’s hard to quit if you’ve been doing it, harder still if you ‘don’t do it that much’

      • Over it says:

        How big is a cigarette paper , because I see at least 5 feet of space between Willy and Katie

    • Geegee says:

      I still can’t get my head around the fact that no british media are coming down on the cambridges scooping up a 4th house during a cost of living crisis.

    • Carmen says:

      I was wondering why they felt they had to print this story.

  2. ThatsNotOkay says:

    And this was William when it came to Meg: “controlling and suspicious — someone who sees an ‘agenda’ everywhere,”

    • Selene says:

      I read it the same way; he didn’t (and doesn’t) see Meghan as the love of his brother’s life, he sees her as an African-American actress. No wonder that Kate snobbery is still happening, that karma keeps coming back around like a boomerang.

  3. The Duchess says:

    If you have to make it clear to the general public that you ‘lunch’ and watch television ‘every evening’ with your wife of 11 years, then things must be completely fine within your marriage…

    • Jay says:

      Are you trying to tell me that the man who describes his spouse as having “just dug her heels in and stuck with it” might not be in the most loving marriage? It’s like he’s under seige, lol.

      • Harper says:

        Like the time she wanted to leave after the Rose scandal erupted, but the palace was scared of how it would look and the Queen gave her that special fancy ribbon as a reward for not being a bolter, so Kate “just dug her heels in and stuck with it.”

      • notasugarhere says:

        LOL Harper. Kate has never wanted to leave and will never want to leave. The cheating is something she’s agreed to for 20 years. She only got the ribbon for not pulling a public hissy fit about it as she used to do in the dating years. The BRF would just as soon see Kate and her family gone, which is ultimately what a move to a small separation home in Windsor foreshadows.

      • Lemons says:

        Kate will never leave, but she’ll make up excuses to not work. And I’m sure they were concerned with her not working and being visible.

      • MeganC says:

        The BRF absolutely don’t want to see Kate leave. She is the one who manages William’s incandescent rage and temper tantrums. It’s quite clear the BRF are invested in making their marriage work.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kate manages nothing, especially not William’s anger. Long before the engagement whitewashing, it was known that Kate was as nasty, violent, and temperamental as William. We’ve had lots of leaks to that effect in the past years too. Her mistreatment of staff, staff leaving after a few months, she and William engaging in frequent screaming fights, Carole needing to be there to make cheese toast for William and duct tape this sham together.

        Kate brings nothing to William’s peace of mind nor to the royal role. Playing up the image of William as Poor Single Father plays much better for the BRF than the constant embiggening from Team Kate/Carole out of Bucklebury. The BRF wants the Middletons, including Kate, sidelined permanently.

      • JMoney says:

        @notasurgarhere, I completely disagree. As an American living in the U.K. I can tell you, no it won’t play out well in the UK if W leaves Kate (he’ll be seen as his dad and that’s the last thing W wants to be seen as). The reason why W&K have a higher popularity ranking than Charles is b/c they are married. W&K are leading lives similar to The Queen and DoE both of whom had checked out of their marriage ages ago and were not affectionate with each other publicly and had side pieces. In aristo circles even to this day – that is the norm. Now to ppl living normal lives in the West it may not be but to the UK establishment and aristo who wield the power in the UK it does. William has a hard time trusting ppl and notice while he does have a wandering eye he does not have a “favorite” side piece but he has them and if Kate is more than willing to put up with it while doing “her duty” why would he blow it up?

      • notasugarhere says:

        40 percent of marriages in the UK end in divorce. Less than 30 percent of people in the UK are members of the CoE anymore. There is nothing perceived as immoral or wrong with divorce in 2022. With the sh!tstorm headed for the UK, the privileged white elite, and the changes with the Commonwealth? A business marriage between privileged Uni sweethearts ending in divorce? Nobody is going to care. The monarchy will continue, without Keen helping to drag it down, until it fails completely at the end of Charles’s reign or the start of William’s. Kate is less than a footnote. This is why William wants to sideline and divorce her quietly, long before Wife #2 even enters the picture.

      • MeganC says:

        Kate is the third most popular royal after the queen and William. She’s not going anywhere.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Only the ignorant believe YouGov polls reflect reality in the UK. When William wants her gone, she’s gone.

      • MeganC says:

        I was referring to an Ipso poll. I’m sorry the data doesn’t fit your world view.

      • Nic919 says:

        Diana was the most popular royal but when the divorce happened, there was a section of royalists who turned on her because they always support the blood royal, even charles. Diana was treated horribly by the tabloids after that until her death, at which point she was turned into a saint overnight by these same tabloids.

        If William wants a divorce, the media will support him and kate will suddenly not be popular, especially since she has never been as popular as Diana.

        The question has always been whether or not William wants a divorce. Kate doesn’t figure in the decision at all.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Show me a non biased poll about the BRF. There isn’t one. Polls that are released to the public about a person’s popularity are propaganda. They stack their pool for predicable and encouraged results. That’s a fact.

        The ones that do not get released are usually crisis management teams working to accurately approach a person’s reputation within the public.

      • JaneBee says:

        @JMoney But, I think that’s a key part of the problem – unlike TQ and DoE, Kate is not part of the aristo set. She did not grow up with these values or thinking these arrangements were normal. As much as Carole tries to convince her to ignore William’s cheating, it clearly gets to Kate. Most of all when it’s following the ‘rules’ and is within the right set amongst social equals, i.e. rose bush trimming. I actually get the impression Khate handles William’s hook ups with random women at Verbier boys’ weekends just fine. It’s the standard accepted arrangement agreed as adopted by TQ and DoE (with Penny K) that Khate can’t stand and that clearly gets under her skin.

      • JMoney says:

        @JaneBee That is true however she’s still there with no intention of leaving b/c she won’t. She has no reason to. If she left it would blow up all the social climbing The Middletons have taken advantage of for years. Plus they know too much of PW skeletons and he knows it. The key reason Diana divorced was she refused to put up with it but Kate is putting up with it. However badly but that is the choice she is making. Will knows he will have a hard time finding someone who wants to be Queen that won’t spill the beans or leave him after his first outburst (and that is inevitable).

        @notasugarhere, Yes 40% end in divorce but 60% don’t end in divorce. This piece is basically saying, “we are living separate lives but will be married in name only”. There’s no incentive for him to divorce. He’s now significantly less good looking, any child he has if he remarries will be pushed down the line of succession (if they are on it at all), the women will be scrutinized by the papers and for what? I think Kate learnt a hard lesson which is its better to be an aristo and be the mistress of the FFK. You’re biz isn’t on the papers (for long anyway), your circle will protect you, any kids you do have will remain private but will have the money and be known who they are in aristo circles and thus have the connections and networks and are free to do whatever they want in life. In contrast, everyone knows who the monarch’s legitimate children are, they will be papped, photographed and gossiped world wide, no privacy, no one but themselves know what its like to be in a gold fish bowl and are at the mercy of their eldest sibling for money and housing. Oh and if they try to leave they will be ostracized.

      • Becks1 says:

        Her popularity is immaterial. If Charles could divorce Diana, William can divorce Kate. My guess is most people will just shrug and move on, if she goes quietly.

        I go back and forth on whether I think a divorce will actually happen, but I think the idea that William can’t divorce her bc she is so necessary to his reign or to the monarchy is completely wrong. If she was that necessary, we wouldn’t have seen the PR flurry over the least year or so reminding everyone that she is, in fact, the lynchpin of the monarchy. People who are actually necessary don’t need to remind others about that fact all the time.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Exactly Wiglet Watcher and Becks1. Kate meeting with crisis managers to try to find a way to up her in polls that are already rigged. If William wants her gone, she’s gone. No one is going to miss her. All the pretend Kate fans will line up behind Wife #2. They aren’t Kate fans, they’re generally only Meghan haters anyway. They’ll praise anyone married to William because she isn’t married to Harry. End of.

    • swirlmamad says:

      If this came out about Meghan and Harry, I could totally believe it — anyone could. It’s clear as day how much those two enjoy being with each other. Now these two…the Shambridges need to give it up and keep quiet because this isn’t doing what they think it is.

    • Becks1 says:

      Yeah if you have to constantly insist that your marriage is fine and you’re so in love and happy, really, we swear, there’s nothing wrong behind the scenes – then its clear that there are real problems.

      the DM wouldn’t devote so much space to telling us how wonderful their marriage is unless everyone there knows its not.

      • The Duchess says:

        I still think this is William’s way of getting the message out there that he has no intentions to divorce Kate. At least not yet. The talk about their striking distance and distain for each other during the Jubbly really hit a fever pitch. They clearly got wind of it, hence why William has had to put an awkward spin on how ‘cosy’ their marriage is to fight off prying eyes from the general public. Shipping Kate off to her separation house in Windsor must have given William a bit of breathing space and it shows (at least for now).

      • Shawna says:

        @TheDuchess – re: your last few lines … maybe W&K were confronted by Charles or TQ’s staff about their public frostiness, and W&K answered, “See? This is why we need another house. We’ve been asking for months.” And maybe Charles finally capitulated in light of press scrutiny, leading to the apparent defrosting of tensions in the most recent photos, where they don’t look like they hate each other as much as they have. Because they basically threatened Charles with continuing their public row unless they got the next house.

      • Lux says:

        Yes. Insisting not only that the marriage is fine, but also that you are “inseparable.” Uh-huh. There is something very telling about having “lunch” together everyday and not dinner. Granted, these people don’t work so yes, they can technically lunch together everyday, but it’s the idea of family meals at dinner (the MOST typical, married couple stuff, amirite?) or the omission of such a passage (and the inclusion of something random—TV every evening? What is this, a 1970s sitcom?) that reads as disingenuous. A family man eats dinner with his family. TOB is known to dine in London with random friends where Keen is definitely not invited or in attendance. So far from inseparable, these two.

    • Cairidh says:

      She’s not popular at all and never has been in the UK.
      The gushing praise on daily mail and Twitter are from paid astroturfers. They stopped for a while when Britain first went into lockdown. And daily mail comments went back to 99% negative…. Whoever’s usually paid to remove them, wasn’t at work.
      The polls are faked.

    • LaMaitresse says:

      Of course Willnot will divorce Waity as soon as he wants to. The British Public have more to be concerned about than two ineffectual douchebags in their 40’s that contribute nothing to society. Prince Charles at least was genius and before his time with organic produce, revitalizing underperforming asset in the Duchy, human rights issues etc, and Diana was brilliant at raising social awareness for issues that were controversial or at least not very “sexy”. These two twats are of very little value.

  4. Lucy says:

    I read that as “…they’re insufferable” which actual passes the vibe check.

    • FancyPants says:

      That must be what she meant, because you could drive an 18-wheeler between these two in public (William can’t keep himself far enough away from her!) so I can only imagine how they treat each other in private!

  5. Tessa says:

    William keeping kate waiting was imo not for her benefit but his he broke up with her to look for aristo prospects who did not want him then settled for Kate

    • WallOfFire says:

      Oh absolutely. He was definitely out there shopping for a more suitable wife. I remember the coverage during that time. He couldn’t find anyone else, the aristo set knows what being a Royal wife is really like. Why would they want to deal with all the Grey Men, The Press, the intrusive rules? Being compared to Diana? They can just marry a super rich titled aristocrat and have the same benefits without all the hassle. Katie was his only option in the end.

  6. Loretta says:

    ” ‘They spend all their time together. They lunch together every day, they sit and watch television together every evening”
    LMAO the joke of the week

    • ML says:

      Yeah, this is also a great way to show that William is NOT dull and very dutiful…

    • Aidevee says:

      Wish I could lunch with my husband every day, that sounds absolutely lovely. Sadly, we’re both working every day, staving off the cost of living crisis.

      Its hilarious how this is being used as an example of how relatable they are.
      How the other half live, eh?

      • liz says:

        Yup. Since the pandemic started, we are both still working from home most days. If “having lunch together” means we see each other in the kitchen and ask “is there any of last night’s chicken left for me?” before heading back to our respective desks, I guess we have lunch together almost every day.

    • Lizzie says:

      Isn’t this what retired couples do? Seems like admitting they don’t ever really ‘work’. I guess they live a life of ultimate luxury until he get’s his job at 50 or 60 years old.

    • Pentellit says:

      William giving insight into his private living room about him and Kate watching tv because Harry revealed similar when he did that little bus cameo on American TV. Harry talked about what a normal evening was like for him and Meghan…after putting Archie to bed they make dinner and watch a bit of Jeopardy.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        That’s a great observation. He already claimed a friend’s engagement story as his own, and he and Kate love to mimic H&M. This is just another copycat move.

    • Deering24 says:

      So, does William go shopping with Kate? If they spend all their time together, there would be pix of that, no?

  7. equality says:

    ‘Let’s just say that, like his younger brother, William enjoyed himself immensely in his teens and 20s. Unlike Harry, though, he was never caught!’ Wait. What? I thought Will was “parenting” PH? Sounds like the close sources who said W&K are so tight are the Middletons.

    • ML says:

      Great observation!

    • Amy Bee says:

      I think William and his friends are trying to hard to convince the public that his marriage is fine and how much he loves Kate. Their public appearances say otherwise. The part about Kate being snubbed by the aristos can’t be denied because of what was said in the Tatler article. But it also shows exposes how terrible Kate is. Instead of being an ally to fellow outsider Meghan she decided to snub her like the aristos did her.

    • Aidevee says:

      I really hate the tone of this statement ‘unlike Harry… He was never caught!’

      Are we to be congratulating him on this? Wink, wink- slap on the back for Will, the Royal Bro. Like he’s been starring in some London-based Hangover sequel.

      Happy 40th Birthday to our Future King – he shagged about in his 20s but got away with it! 😐

      • Beach Dreams says:

        It’s very smug and self-satisfied for no reason, because 1) Will HAS been caught several times and 2) Everyone knows Harry’s movements were used to cover up his own most of the time. There’s very few moments where the BM let his activities go public (like him screaming “I’m free” and partying after the 07 break up, or that infamous photo of him groping a woman’s breast while holding a drink).

    • Lizzie says:

      Oh, they have admitted over the years that both were caught but the press would only report on Harry. Club H was one event I can think of but I think this has been true their whole lives.

    • Jan90067 says:

      Harry wasn’t “caught” as much as he was “thrown under the bus”, repeatedly, to protect William’s reputation. They gave Harry to the wolves so as to draw headlines away *from* William’s behavior/peccadilloes.

    • RoyalBlue says:

      @aidevee I think it’s because there are people out there with receipts and photos of Will doing nasty stuff, but because of the protection he receives, they have not been printed. everyone knows that william was a naughty boy, and being the older brother was likely the instigator.

  8. ML says:

    We saw William as a father during Louis’ Jubly meltdown…William let Kate and then his father deal with Louis. Let’s just say he doesn’t seem very involved?
    Perhaps I’m not reading the room correctly, but I honestly do not feel that Kate and William are incredibly close? With H&M and even Charles and Camilla, the love and affection is tangible, but House Cambridge doesn’t exude that. They need to constantly tell instead of show us that they are inseparable.

    • Tessa says:

      Harry and Meghan show love and affection

    • MaryContrary says:

      Actually there was video of Louis sitting on William’s lap too. I’ll criticize him for a lot but I do think he adores his kids and is way more hands-on than his father was.

      • sunny says:

        This. I still think Kate does most of the parenting but I think he loves his kids and he is a way more involved father than Charles ever was(though that bar is so low it is in hell).

      • Tessa says:

        Will treats George as more special George getting a gift.from Attenborough the others getting nothing George going solo to games and Charlotte left home plus dynasty photo ops Charles and Diana did not treat will more special but maybe will resented it

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kate do most of the parenting? Nanny Maria and her team do the majority of the parenting. W&K show up for separate play dates. Obvious the kids are tired of being used for PR, given how all three have acted out fiercely against Kate and her games in public.

  9. Tessa says:

    Will has not aged well his father looked better at forty than will does

    • WallOfFire says:

      It’s absolutely SHOCKING when you look at pictures of him in the early 2000’s. He truly got the face he deserves, didn’t he? Couldn’t have happened to a grosser person.

  10. Nev says:

    STOP IT.

  11. Hyrule Castle says:

    Who are they kidding?
    They look like acquaintances, & the ones you just kinda wave too from a distance.
    There’s no warmth there, no shared looks of private remembrances.
    He looks at her like he doesn’t remember her middle name.

    Sad, because they live a lie & now their kids do too.

  12. Jay says:

    ‘Let’s just say that, like his younger brother, William enjoyed himself immensely in his teens and 20s. Unlike Harry, though, he was never caught!’

    I’m assuming this is a guarded way of talking about William’s, er, wandering sceptre during the waity years. Or the “Zulu” costume he reportedly wore to that infamous party where Harry wore the Nazi uniform. Cuz you know, haha, what funny youthful shenanigans! And it’s pretty easy not to get caught if the media agrees to protect your reputation, right?

    All in all, this feels like an odd thing to include in a profile ostensibly about W.

    • MsIam says:

      Oh William was caught, he was just protected by the invisible contract. I saw a clip on YouTube where Penny Junor and Jobson were interviewed and they basically talked about how Harry was thrown to the wolves. The press would use the same pictures of him coming out of clubs drunk over and over to imply he was always partying. But William was never shown that way. Even now, William is allowed to maintain this choir boy image even though he’s a POS.

      • notasugarhere says:

        William admitted this, only once, in an interview with Matt Lauer iirc. That he had always done 10X worse than Harry but it was always covered up.

      • Tessa says:

        William was shown leaving clubs looking worse for wear and so was Kate they are still on the internet and there is this photo of will dancing on a feathered boa a Google search uncovers this

      • Tessa says:

        The photos of william stumbling out of clubs are on the internet his fans never mention them they are there will wearing a feathered boa photo is there

    • Buddy says:

      It feels like they’re baiting Harry to respond either in another interview or in his book. Harry’s antics were probably offered in exchange to for keeping William’s out of the press; they know it, will knows it, and Harry knows it. If they can’t have the Sussex’s there, the next best thing is to goad all sides and further ignite this “feud”. How many articles did they get out of that Oprah interview?

    • SomeChick says:

      oh he wore it all right. blackface and all.
      I have seen the photo! which is super hard to find now… imagine that

  13. Tessa says:

    The writer says you can’t get a cigarette paper between them that was a cliche when they dated only it was then a postage stamp not cigarette paper

  14. Polo says:

    This is William fully committed to the delusion of his “happy marriage” because that plays out better in the media and PR world but like we all know it’s not reality.

    I said before but as long as they are fully protected by the media they will keep up with the delusion. They’ll just have to sell every organ and body part to do it.

    I normally wouldn’t care but after what they did to H&M I hope it’s a miserable existence for William and Kate..

    • Sue E Generis says:

      Well, they certainly seem miserable whenever they appear together in public.

    • Lizzie says:

      W&K certainly appear to be miserable people. Imagine having all that they have in life yet being bitter, petty and full of rage everyday.

  15. Pinkosaurus says:

    Is there any penalty to the RR or tabloids for being inaccurate? If this turns out to be not true in a month or a few months, i.e. some non-British source reports on William’s affairs or how infrequently he is actually home, is there any penalty? Do the supposed “royal experts” stop getting invited to comment on legitimate news shows because they don’t have credibility? Do the readers start to question whether other stories are also not reliable? I think not. There’s no downside for these rags to publish ridiculous easily disputable lies.

    • Dee says:

      It’ll all get folded into a narrative about efforts to spend more time together trying to make it work out, but, alas, it was all in vain.

    • Lorelei says:

      @Pinkosaurus, the fact that a bunch of the “experts” were caught giving their reviews of the Oprah interview before it even aired doesn’t seem to have affected their careers one bit. Which I cannot understand for the life of me, because they were outed as blatant liars with no credibility whatsoever. So I think the answer to your question is no, these people will suffer zero consequences, and I guess they just expect the public to overlook it? The entire ROTA system is such a dysfunctional mess. I’m surprised they’re still protecting W&K to the extent that they are since KP clearly has no more Sussex info to leak.

    • WallOfFire says:

      @pinkosaurus, absolutely not. They say bizarre shit constantly and then pretend it never happened.

    • Bisynaptic says:

      No, they won’t suffer a decline of credibility, because what they’re selling isn’t “facts”, but feelings: feelings about the superiority of Britishness, of the British empire and its slow decline, feelings about the importance of this particular family and the social structure that it represents. “Facts” only intrude on those feelings, so, for the most part, they’re kept out of the way.

  16. Tessa says:

    They left out that he gives Kate gin and tonic after she puts the children to bed

  17. s808 says:

    he won’t divorce her when the marriage seems to be the most stable thing about him right now. not that that saying much.

    • Alexandria says:

      I’m in the same camp because Willy is very lazy. He is lazy at relationships and work. He would divorce only if he wanted to do it for a fling or he just wanted to be single and free. So, even if his fling wanted him to marry her, he may not want the same thing. It starts and ends with him. He has a good arrangement now.

      That being said, nobody would be surprised if they divorce. Anyway, they’re both similar to each other than Willy cares to admit. Both are simple-minded, lazy, immature, mean and petty. Both think their PR are genius. Perfect match of misery.

  18. Amy Bee says:

    William and his friends are trying too hard to convince the public that he’s in a loving and stable relationship. His public appearances with Kate say otherwise.

    • equality says:

      The article quotes a “friend” and later says Kate is his “best friend”. The other sources are from William’s “circle”. Probably all the “sources” are Kate and her family.

    • Becks1 says:

      Yup, said something similar above. Someone has pointed out to KP or William himself that their public appearances scream “not a happy couple.” so this is cover for that.

      • Debbie says:

        Just that picture of William and Kate socially distancing by themselves on a wooden log was a sight. I mean, they were socially distancing before it was a thing but that picture, plus those of William sneering at Kate cannot be denied.

        Basically, the article above is just KP saying “There’s nothing to see here!” and “Who are you going to believe, us or your lying eyes?” I know what I believe.

    • Nic919 says:

      This is the thing. If it wasn’t for how William treats her in public and basically ignores her and gives a ton of space, the rumblings of issues in their marriage wouldn’t go as far. It’s his own actions that feed into this.

      • notasugarhere says:

        That and his extreme freakout about the Rose affair getting out. A super injunction for all English press? Threatening a legal filing with the EU Court of Human Rights over his ‘right to a private life’? If he’d ignored it, it might have remained the talk of the Toffs and nothing else. The freakout, her brother admitting it, the Scottish press having a twitter field day over the affair with the Rose lassie? He cannot put the genie back in the bottle.

  19. Tessa says:

    It reminds me about the spin that Charles and Diana were still happy and the queen sent them on a second honeymoon cruise and the marriage was really over then there is some desperation imo about Cambridge pr

  20. swirlmamad says:

    Yup — all this says is that the jig ain’t up — YET. William is not ready to drop the hammer on Kate and that sham marriage. It still suits his purposes to keep up this dutiful husband and father schtick, so we’re going to keep getting stories like this. But I still think when Betty finally goes, all bets are off.

    • Snuffles says:

      And they will blame Harry and Meghan for “putting a strain” on their marriage.

    • Harper says:

      Harry and Meghan’s disrespecting the Queen and leaving them to do all the work for the Crown was just the last straw in the Cambridge marriage, which was already tough on Kate as she had given up her dream life in the country with an Aga because of William. Burger King understands that, despite massive effort to adjust, it’s better for Kate to retire from public life. She will remain in the country as a private citizen and continue to share the children with William. This Kate gave up a life in the country narrative is popping up quite a lot; almost like a rollout. William’s 40th was never going to be the place to start hinting about their marriage being under strain.

    • notasugarhere says:

      I don’t see this as William being content in this marriage, but agree on the waiting until QEII is gone. Unless she lives another five years, because the facade cannot last that long. He’s desperate to convince everyone the constant cheating never happened. That’s the one thing he wants for this divorce – for it to be ‘cleaner’ than the Charles and Diana one. He wants to be able to claim they’ve reluctantly agreed to separate for the good of Kate and the kids, not because of a wandering willy. The emphasis on ‘poor kate’ ‘cannot handle the pressure’ ‘wants to be a country mum’ is cover for sidelining her in Windsor. That’s what he’s been leaning in to for several years now, emphasizing quietly that she’s not capable of doing the job.

      • Nlopez says:

        You make some good points NOTA.
        F ood for thought. I appreciate your perspective!

      • Shawna says:

        And it wouldn’t be *wrong* to say that she can’t handle it. She really can’t. It would be nice for the reasoning for the (eventual) divorce to have a bit of truth in it.

    • Gabby says:

      I think this marriage narrative is Middleton spin. Note the “all that Kate gave up” angle. I don’t think this is coming from William, who wants that divorce so badly he can taste it.

  21. Merricat says:

    Lol. They still haven’t learned that they can’t control the narrative in the 21st century. They think they can, and they certainly try, but no, not outside their tiny mound of salt. The world is so much smaller now, and they’ve so emphatically emphasized their own racism. It’s like watching slow spontaneous combustion.

  22. Ginger says:

    Will and Kate close? Their body language suggests otherwise. They look like they can barely stand each other. My parents never hold hands. Ever. With my parents you can tell how deeply in love they are. I don’t see that with Will and Kate.

    We never got these stories before Meghan. Wonder why?

  23. sunny says:

    So TOB is happy with the terms of the separation and wants to quiet down rumours that he hates his wife after the last 2 years of public appearances where he looks like he loathes her? Cool, got it! All is status quo with TOB and Consigliere Keen.

    One of my friends recently said that William will never leave Kate even if he hates her because a happy marriage/family man image is the one win he has over his father.

  24. Sue E Generis says:

    Cigarette papers must be ENORMOUS in the UK.

  25. Ceej says:

    I love my fiancé but if I spent every moment with them or every non-working moment with any children I’d absolutely snap. I am a whole person independent of my partner and any prospective children.

    Did they worry the concept he might read a book alone some evenings in the study would seem too distant??? What happy relationship involves being together every waking moment?! It reads more like something will snap if they spend time apart or god forbid, develop their own hobbies.

    • blujfly says:

      Yep. I knew a couple like this – we all have. What they’re describing is codependency and it’s unhealthy. In my case, it turns out the wife was in a multiple years affair with a co worker and projecting all of that on to the husband who she routinely disparaged and wouldn’t allow out of her sight. So, do with that what one will….

      • Lady D says:

        Queen of the Co-dependents title should go to the chick that had two toilets installed so they never have to ____ .

  26. MsIam says:

    Interesting how William “protecting” his wife should be applauded but Harry protecting his wife means he has been sucked into an alien world. What an @sshole creep William is. Totally lacking in empathy. I don’t think he even cares about Kate and his kids, he was fine with Kate looking like a fool all those years while he strung her along. I think she’s only valuable as far as how she can help his image. If she’s no longer an asset then she’ll get tossed away like Harry was. Some brother!

    • JaneBee says:

      @MSIAM👆 This is such an excellent point.

    • WallOfFire says:

      @MSIAM. Yes, but the hypocrisy and lack of insight is*so on brand* for these lunatics. William doesn’t see Meghan as an actual human being, and it shows. Like Kaiser says: “They always tell on themselves”.

    • KFG says:

      I think that’s the issue. Other than being a mannequin, Kkkate brings nothing to 🥚. She can’t be trusted at solo events to not make a fool of herself, she can barely keep her meangirl facade hidden, she’s disliked by the aristos, she’s literally bulliam in girl form. Which doesn’t work. She’s as aimless, vindictive, and useless as he is and that doesn’t work with a slimmed down monarchy.

  27. CC says:

    Did anyone ever read “Ella Enchanted?” This reminds of a part where the airheaded fairy godmother “blesses” a newlywed couple to never be more than 10 feet away from each other. Everyone at the wedding is screaming internally but has to smile so the fairy won’t get angry and turn them into squirrels. Except in this case the couple knowingly cursed themselves.

  28. Mina_Esq says:

    The comment about them spending an inordinate amount of time together basically acknowledges that they have no real friends. I’m sad for them. They could be vacationing in California right now if they weren’t so petty lol

  29. Julia K says:

    The Mails article invites us to read between the lines. Tell me what you really mean without telling me.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Julia K, I LOL when I got to: ‘They honestly couldn’t be happier as a couple. You can’t get a cigarette paper between them. They are so tight, just inseparable.’ I decided that this is satire. If you read it in that light, the article is hilarious.

      I don’t know if this is Ma Mid or just a rr who decided to have some fun. People don’t believe this, do they?

      Someone is covering up the separation–or at least, is trying to.

      • Julia K says:

        Agree! This whole article could be a piece of satire meant to be tongue in cheek. Good call.

  30. Cel2495 says:

    Gosh this man baby and the BP will never let this go ! Harry is taking too much time of their lives while he is unbothered in California. They need to understand that no matter all the hate campaigns, bullying, begging and threatening, he will not return to that cesspool as a senior total. He is free and with his family. They are all dying to get a response from him and all that man is trying to do is love his family, do good, and play polo.

  31. SarahLee says:

    Whenever I read nonsense about how the “aristocrats” feel that anyone from outside is beneath them, I just marvel at the hubris of this group of inbreds thinking their receding hairlines and weak chins and dull intellect are superior to anyone in any way, shape, or form.

  32. aquarius64 says:

    William looks weak trashing the Sussexes. Not a good look for a future king. And they are trying too hard to sell a happy marriage.

  33. Lilpeppa40 says:

    I’ve never thought they’d divorce, I still don’t. I don’t know their relationship, and there are persons who are passionate about each other who aren’t outwardly demonstrative. Some almost seem like dead fish when they’re together and that’s ok. I don’t engage in the body language reading or whatever but what strikes me as weird is why does any of it matter? 😕 no one felt the need to go screaming about how in love they were and how inseparable they were until Meghan and Harry came along with their PDA. It just shows an unhealthy sense of competition because if the Cambridges were/are comfortable, why on earth would they care? And someone, even if it’s just the rota, clearly does care. That’s what’s weird about this to me.

  34. Noor says:

    On Kate and William, ‘They spend all their time together. They lunch together every day, they sit and watch television together every evening.”

    Kate and William’s work schedule must be very light to have the time and luxury to lunch together everyday.

    Camilla said she and Prince Charles are so busy working that sometimes they are like ships passing in the night.

  35. WiththeAmerican says:

    The part where someone from Billy’s circle reminds everyone that Kate doesn’t fit in with the royals stands out to me.

    It’s worded like a southern woman does back stabbing “it’s so sad that she isn’t royal and doesn’t go here, people can be so snobby” – yes, why are you telling a tabloid this after the toff thing finally died for Kathy? Oh, right. To revive it. To remind everyone of Kathy’s place.

    This just sounds so much like Billy to me. He’s protective of Kathy when others attack her because she represents him, but he makes sure he’s free to lob insults and backstabs in public to keep her in her place and then her mummy goes into PR mania trying to establish her worth.

    Not a happy marriage. A marriage of players vying for power.

  36. Eurydice says:

    I can believe that he loves his children. And I can believe that he’s puritanical, in that patriarchal aristo way where the man can have quiet affairs and thinks actresses are loose women.

    • Jay says:

      I think his puritanical attitude is the truest thing said in this mess of a profile – I’ll bet he’s puritanical just like all those politicians who campaign on family values and later get arrested in an airport bathroom with cocaine after mistakenly propositioning an undercover cop. Same energy!

  37. Digital Unicorn says:

    Clearly these 2 dim wits didn’t understand the memo that says if you have to telegraph how great your marriage/relationship is every 2 mins then it really isn’t is it.

  38. Margaret says:

    If that is love?. Leave me out.

    • Kit says:

      There was a documentary on Prince William and Harry on Channel 4 just before they got engaged, Richard Kay said that William was ‘sly’ but regarding de Middleton’s and Kate well they where a cover for his ‘other activities ‘ that was his direct quote. So without a doubt he used this vulgar family so he could carry out his activities without any grief or hassle from his wife and her crass family. This is a agreement or was, but def William isn’t interested in Carole or Kate anymore not even as a ongoing contract !!! Humiliation at its lowest image been only a contract to your husband, his help, shame on the Middleton’s.

  39. JMoney says:

    This is why I say they will never officially divorce (despite what many ppl on these boards say) and that is what W is saying here. Is Kate perfect? lol no. But the BIG difference between Kate and Diana is that Kate is willing to put up with anything and everything for the institution – something Diana wouldn’t do.
    Sure W can remarry like his dad but that’s the thing, he doesn’t want ppl to view him as his dad. They want him to be seen as The Queen and DoE 2.0 both long marriages, granted their kids did not grow up to be self-sufficient adults but neither were The Middleton kids either. And if Kate is willing to put up with Will’s wandering eye, why would he want to blow that up? Besides Will has mistresses but is he in love with any of them? I highly doubt it so the situation much like his dad and grandfather before him of mistresses suit him just fine.
    Re: Will and his 20s. I think ppl forget that the Royals esp in the line of succession, their guards are the secret services who are sworn to protect “The Queen and Country”. That means cleaning up his mess (both publicly and online) something that Harry was never going to get.

    • notasugarhere says:

      It just doesn’t track to me. There is no shame in divorce in 2022. William is not religious. His father has set the stage for a divorced-than-widowed man to marry a divorced woman AND still be king and head of CoE. All William wants is for his divorce from Kate to be clean, with no sign of Wife #2 until long after Kate is sidelined in Windsor.

      For several years now we’ve seen the PR fights between the William side and the Middleton side. His side going on about her wanting to be a country mum, just wanting to be a SAHM, William being pictured solo with the kids more often than with Kate and kids. The Middletons fight back with the Keen to Work Keenest Kate, William cannot do without her, she is his rock, etc. End of the day, if William wants her gone she’s gone. All the taboids, Tories, and royal power will be used to sideline her and destroy the Middletons. And as long as the info about his sidepieces keeps being covered up, he gets to leave the divorce quietly. For the sake of Kate and kids, Kate needs to be removed from the royal sphere, Kate cannot handle the pressure of the role, Uni sweethearts who drifted apart. If that doesn’t play, he goes in on the Middletons, how they manipulated him, etc.

      • First comment says:

        No matter how the RR spun the story and the reasons of William ‘s possible divorce, the truth is that the majority of people will associate it with the numerous rumours of his affairs and they will assume that he’s responsible… he knows that and that’s probably why he tolerates Kate and he seems reluctant to divorce her… not to mention that by remaining married to Kate, he projects the image of the perfect family while he can enjoy his current girlfriend in secret.

      • windyriver says:

        Seriously, how widespread/numerous are the rumors of his affairs outside of this site? Plenty of the public at large say they don’t even care about the royals. For those that pay some attention, that’s the whole purpose of the invisible contract, and the injunctions, to protect Will and hide what he does behind the scenes. Even here, where we pay closer attention, the most we’re really aware of is Rose (fairly certain and likely over), possibly a lawyer, and maybe another dalliance or two over the years. Not much.

        If you’ve followed the Meghan/Harry stories on this site over the last four or five years, you’ve seen what the RF and media can bring to bear when they want to attack and harass people, and how completely narratives can be twisted. Truth has no meaning. And unlike the Sussexes, the Middletons have plenty of skeletons in their closet they’d prefer to hide. The RF has now had plenty of practice via their long term vendetta against Harry and Meghan; if they/Will want Kate and her family gone, the narrative will change so fast our heads will spin.

      • Fredegunda says:

        What happens if William and Kate divorce, and he tries to blame her; but she turns it around and says that she couldn’t take his cheating any longer. That would allow the rota to go totally nuts and spill a lot more tea than they can now.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The tabloids will never side with the Middletons, no matter how much Ma Midds tries to leak on William. No one likes the Middletons; the tabloids are itching to tear them down. For all they have on him? The BRF and the UK government have far more on the Middletons, their offshore accounts, their strange business setup, Uncle Gary, all of it. They play nice, they come out relatively unscathed. They try to take William down with them? All hell breaks loose. William leans heavily in to how he was manipulated by the awful Middletons soon after his mother’s death, how Kate and family drove out Harry and Meghan, all of it. The Windsors will win, not the Midds.

  40. Tessa says:

    Reportedly Kate told chelsy to expect cheating from harry she did not tell her not to put up with it. Kate put up with the cheating

  41. Blujfly says:

    “Settled” before “family” seems to be doing quite a lot of lifting. Those of us who have observed these people for some time remember quite well William leaving his vomiting wife at home to attend any number of aristocratic weddings (at least once it wasn’t even an aristocratic wedding) while she was heavily pregnant with both George and Charlotte. Or the fact that when Kate had to be rushed to the hospital when sick while pregnant with George, she was rushed from Bucklebury to London. The inordinate amount of public time spent in Berkshire without her husband. Perhaps like a lot of bad fathers, William doesn’t parent small children.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Kate doesn’t parent any of these children, the nannies and night nannies do. Kate chose this relationship, chose to chase him for a decade, chose to accept cheating as part of the business marriage. Kate is no victim.

      Kate also never had HG, that was PR fabrication and extreme caution over a royal pregnancy. No one with HG flies to remote islands without hospital facilities for beach vacations. No one with HG flies to Switzerland to go sledding. No one with HG drives themselves past two hospitals to get to the one where their fav pap was waiting. No one with HG is papped downing a bottle of white wine a week before the pregnancy is announced. The drive to the hospital was a bullying move to yank William back from his lads weekend away. He showed up, posed, and played nice for awhile. But not for long. Right after the birth, she moved home to mummy for six months while William was off being William. This is the only way this relationship has survived for 20 years – if they spend most of their time separated. They never should have married, never should have brought kids in to this mess.

      • Siobhan says:

        I think this whole list of what someone with or without HG would do is very inaccurate. And like other forms of morning sickness it can last varying amounts of time – I don’t think she travelled abroad until after her first trimester a when she was doing better? What is this part about a bottle of white wine before pregnancy was announced I’m confused (although sometimes people don’t know they’re pregnant until like week five, and then by week six morning sickness could be very bad already).

      • notasugarhere says:

        Hoping Wiglet Watcher will chime in here with their previous work experience. Kate’s heathy weight gain, repeated travel, driving herself. None of it adds up to someone who is suffering. Sufferers end up in hospital and with terminations because it is their life or the pregnancy. It is an insult to HG sufferers that Lazy Kate claimed this her entire pregnancy and used it as an excuse for ongoing laziness. Bottle of wine was with Charlotte, not George. Stans always delete that pic when they republish the other pap pics from that night, but Kate had a bottle of white wine while William had red.

        If she truly had HG? She would have been airlifted by helo, not driven herself HOURS until she got to the hospital where her pap was waiting. Her silence every year on HG Awareness Day speaks volumes if you pay attention. She knows she’d be heckled out of a room filled with women who really did have HG.

  42. Southern Fried says:

    Did y’all hear me hollering? Those people get crazier by the day. Sure, boo, we all believe that load. Hey royals we can smell your lying trench mouths stink all the way over here in the states!

  43. RoyalBlue says:

    ‘They spend all their time together. They lunch together every day, they sit and watch television together every evening.’

    So what? Most of their days are empty with hours and hours of free time for dalliances, tennis and the gym. In fact, if he is so important and getting ready to be the CEO of some duchy or the other, why doesn’t he have business lunches or power dinners and other events. He has all this spare time to be home having lunch every day and watch tv at night, while the rest of us working folk are planning the meals for the week, catching up with a phone call to parents, folding laundry, maybe catch a tv show or two in once per week. This article just emphasizes what lazy louts these two are.

  44. Tessa says:

    William is not gracious he should just accept it now he caused the problem by getting all self righteous he seems to be the type that thinks he can do no wrong

  45. jferber says:

    It’s literally true. They can’t be happier as a couple because they are miserable and they have no way to come back from that. They are inseparable and that is the effing problem–what can William do to be rid of this woman and still keep his fake reputation of a family man? I think they’re working on the second problem with Kate’s new house. Lying liars gonna lie.

    • Lizzie Bathory says:

      Yes–they always try to sneak in glimpses at the truth where they can. “Inseparable,” lol. Charles has been working for a year to find a separation home that Kate will accept but that isn’t so grand as to draw too many complaints from the public. And he had to shell out for a new Jubbly wardrobe.

  46. JaneBee says:

    “The emphasis on ‘poor kate’ ‘cannot handle the pressure’ ‘wants to be a country mum’ is cover for sidelining her in Windsor.”

    Now that you’ve articulated it @Nota, it seems super obvious and I should have caught it earlier. I hadn’t joined together those Aga dots, but you’re totally right.

    This is the graceful way out that tries to reflect well on both of them. TOB feels super bad for subjecting Kate to this pressurised, city life she can’t handle – all she ever wanted was him, definitely not anything else involving a title/crown. He loves and respects her so much that he just has to let her go. LMAO.

    Kate wants what Pippa has – and that’s luxury split between the Home Shires and London. Kate has never been a true country girl; she literally had no connection to the countryside FFS 😂

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      It is beyond obvious that she can’t and won’t do the job, Meddleton PR trying to say otherwise only makes it worse. Every time she opens her mouth its obvious how out of her depth she really is and it can’t be hidden anymore.

      I agree using ‘mental health’ issues as a reason for the divorce is the way this is going – they’ve been setting that up for the past few years now and it’s getting louder. This is how it was done with Diana and it will happen to her, regardless of how much Mummy tries to counter that narrative – even Carol(e) can’t polish sh!t.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Omg YES re: your last paragraph. Nothing about Kate has ever struck me as true country girl; that woman clearly loves the glitz and glamour aspect of royal life the most.

      • JaneBee says:

        @Beach Dreams Even Kate’s fauxristo countryside style is Ctrl+C from key members of the Turnip Toffs and Jecca Craig!

        That country ‘look’ (Dubarry boots, brown jeggings, Barbour waxed cotton jackets) does not come organically to Kate – she would have been exposed to it at Marlborough, but it wasn’t a thing in her family. She still wears it like a costume. Carole was never hanging out in this gear, because the Meddletons were never ‘country’ people. This new image of her is being conjured up out of thin air!

  47. SuzeQ says:

    The phrase “Sure, Jan” springs to mind when reading this piece of journalistic malfeasance.

  48. Well Wisher says:

    The marriage described could be attributed to the Cambridges, if Kate was a secure individual.
    (I am sympathetic that in class based societies, the burden of a successful marriage is on the wife.)
    These are two individuals based on status have money, fame and influence; yet they spend enormous amounts on consumption like the nouveau riche.
    Then the contradictories of being normal and in love as a state of contentment.
    Quite the opposite, more like consumerism is used to dull the lack of sexual intimacy in the relationship and lack of self esteem individually.
    Using Maslow’s hierarchy of needs as a guide they are just midways to self actualization.
    Two healthy, self aware individuals can create a love match that is beyond aspirational. Not in this case, they are going to stick it out, as long as he can find someone who accepts the situation as is and does not have the need to be manipulative.
    If Kate have the desire to move beyond the arrested state of development more that acquiring more status, the marriage is over.
    As described their marriage would have been idyllic if that is what they want, but is it?
    For now, he has resigned to the idea of being a Middleton puppet, while she competes with Meghan to be the best version of Meghan, since erasure is impossible.
    No one has the heart to remind her that Meghan is not one of Bill’s former girlfriends.
    Cosplaying and being a mean girl is not enough to counteract “Loyal wife and good mother”
    It is not enough to put it on one’s biography.
    Just be.

  49. Beach Dreams says:

    “William is very conscious that if it wasn’t for him, the man she fell in love with, Catherine would be living a nice life in the country and bringing up a family away from the spotlight.”

    They were pushing this same talking point in the lead-up to Kate’s birthday. Everyone with sense knows that there’s only one reason she stuck around for so long, and it certainly isn’t love. Enough of this “she could’ve been doing this and that if not for falling in love with William!” tripe. None of it rings true because she centered her ENTIRE adulthood on catching and holding onto him.

    • Anna says:

      Let me fix that for you: Meg would continue to live her great life, have a steady job in Suits, level on anonymity and total freedom if she hadn’t fallen in love with Harry.

    • Tessa says:

      Kate also “just happened” to fall in love with William. Well, she quickly left the University of her choice to enroll at St. Andrew’s when she found out he was going there. She planned this all out. And Kate has low work numbers and gets a lot of vacation time so what was the sacrifice if this is what she wanted?

      • The Duchess says:

        Kate is so lazy that even working equivalent to 6 days a month is too much of a sacrifice for her. She wants Pippa’s life and that becomes evermore prevalent the longer time goes on.

  50. Julia K says:

    It’s the beginning of the end when you ask your ” friends” to give a statement to the press telling them what a happy marriage you have.

    • Gah says:

      Was on the Eurostar yesterday and had a nice convo about ww1 w the pensioners across the way.

      They are anti brexit and verrrrrry pro “our Kate.” Said their 16 yo granddaughter looks up to her as such a role model.

      I mentioned her numbers are so low she barely works, her husband cheats on her and used legal means to silence the press and she and her Machiavellian mom plotted to do this from high school? Too harsh? Idk.

      They said my perspective must be down to the difference in press coverage between the US and the UK.

      I said no this is all easily verified in Uk media but quickly changed the subject. They said Kate is so much like Diana….

      Glad I didn’t tell them I think wills will be the fall of the house of Windsor…

  51. candy says:

    ‘Let’s just say that, like his younger brother, William enjoyed himself immensely in his teens and 20s. Unlike Harry, though, he was never caught!’

    So basically, he cheated the whole time.

  52. Mjane says:

    I think Brown is tough but fair and she’s very well connected. She also had a book to sell and that kind of bombshell would have made it even more successful. A lot of her sources are the worker bees in households and offices and people with genteel connections.

    • Tessa says:

      I read the book and most of it was old news, and if one kept up with royal news on the Internet there really was nothing new. IMO anyway.

    • swirlmamad says:

      Tina Brown? Fair?? You must be joking.

  53. Lizzie says:

    William at 40;
    has done nothing substantial, unlike his mother, father, brother and grandfather.
    raging over Harry
    raging over Andrew
    looking forward to the POW duchy money
    happy marriage image is important
    I’m going to say this description is true for Cathy Cambridge also.

  54. dawnchild says:

    some thoughts…

    1) In the immediate future, Will gets to work/play in London most of the week while Kate does the kids and school thing in Windsor. This automatically gets them some breathing room from each other during the week, and no one questions it because ‘working dad in city’ image is the reason.

    2) Not so bad to be a super-rich 40-something single, divorced guy. You are back on the market, potentially available…it can up your desirability factor…lots of perked-up hopes to be Mrs. William #2. Even if he never re-marries, the possibility will put the spotlight back on him. Meanwhile, he is back to dating, partying and in between, being showcased as ‘loving dad’. Lots of money for vacations, homes, horses, etc make sure the kids will end up on Windsor side eventually…just as it did with Diana’s boys becoming Windsorized as they grew up. Money talks; and the Middletons don’t have any upper-class connections outside William.

    3) Charlotte will grow up soon enough to be Princess Royal and her dad’s official hostess…wear the jewels and nice clothes and get photographed. If she’s good at it, he’ll never need a wife to showcase the tiaras and evening gowns and Ascot outfits.

    A happier, smile-ier 45-year old single Prince of Wales is not a bad gig, especially if no messy Camilla-like situation or charismatic ex-wife like Diana is dogging your heels.

    So, it will be interesting in the coming decade…
    It seems awful to predict the failure of a relationship, but if there is no mutual respect, it’s very hard to save a marriage

    • JaneBee says:

      @Dawn Child If you’re right, really hope Charlotte takes on that role of her own volition and not because she’s forced or guilted into it, or because she feels she has to do it win his approval.

    • Tessa says:

      I doubt it will be soon that Charlotte will be Princess Royal. The title is Anne’s for life and Charlotte cannot get the title in Anne’s lifetime. Anne was the title holder after the death of George V’s daughter Princess Mary but Anne waited quite a few years after Mary’s death to have the title bestowed on her. Charlotte should have her own family and not be called upon to be Will’s official hostess.

    • Tessa says:

      If William divorces Kate he will have the second wife already in mind and the one he wants to marry after the divorce. Much like Peter Phillips is doing now. IMO.

    • notasugarhere says:

      As Tessa wrote, William will have Wife #2 to be his hostess. Odds are the younger two W&K kids will not be working royals. That’s the precedent Harry has set and one the taxpayers will want to continue. No point in Charlotte getting added useless titles if she’s working at Tesco to earn a living.

  55. Robin Samuels says:

    New Rule: Whatever the tabloids print about the Cambridges, flip it for the truth!
    The coldness between them during the Jubilee was glaring. Initially, they were the master of ceremonies for the concert. William took the stage alone and upstaged the Queen by discussing Earth Shot! He ran down the church steps in front of Kate and jumped in the car ahead of her. Was it an attempt to avoid seeing Harry and Meghan?

  56. kelleybelle says:

    Not a single shot of them looking at each other. Looking past each other, and one looking, but never both. Nice try. He can’t stand her.

  57. Mrs. Smith says:

    You all are so smart! I totally didn’t see the forest for the trees. When I read rota stories, I must understand it as literal. “Couldn’t be happier” means they cannot be happier (b/c they are miserable) and “inseparable” means they cannot be split apart and are stuck with each other for now. It’s sort of like when celebrities do over-the-top gestures of love and then they split.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Mrs. Smith, I think you’ve got it. The more the BM leans into this happy marriage story, the more they are highlighting this problem marriage. No one can watch the two of them and believe they love let alone respect each other.

  58. Tessa says:

    Couples do not always watch the same programs together and there would not be just one t.v. set in the house I doubt they sit and watch tv together every night

  59. Beverley says:


  60. NotSoSocialB says:

    *insert snort gif here*

  61. jferber says:

    Tessa, they might watch together and the TV would be the buffer. I can see that. Heaven forbid they were truly alone with each other.

  62. Sour Pasoa says:

    This ‘statement’ and the ‘old’ fathersday photo, just adds on more to the divorce rumor mill.

    This is not helping

  63. Over it says:

    I am dying reading these birthday fanfics with truth scattered here and there.
    I have always thought there will be no divorce because Willy does what Willy wants and without Willy where the heck will Kate be? She is like the loyal animal who has no choice but to stay with her master even though he is abusive because it’s been drilled into her head that she is nothing without him. It also doesn’t help that Carole cares more about being the queen mom than being a mom to Kate.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Kate chased a man who didn’t want her for 10 years because she wanted the title, not the man, the title. She chose to stand back and put up with the cheating in exchange. She chose this business arrangement where he lives as a single man. Not out of love for William but out of love for status, titles, freebies, and the royal lifestyle. As for his temper? Those who have watched this debacle for 20 years know her temper is just as bad as his. The recent story about Kate ‘giving as good as she gets’ is just the most recent. She’s always been abusive to staff, gotten in screaming matches with William over f*cking board games, and been the prickly princess. Kate is no victim.

  64. Cee says:

    Holly lip fillers.