King Charles III will change the Counsellors of State to Camilla, Anne & Edward?

Even after the Duke and Duchess of Sussex left Salt Island for America, Prince Harry was still a Counsellor of State for Queen Elizabeth II. So was Prince Andrew. Under QEII, the Counsellors of State issue was merely settled by the line of succession and whoever was old enough. King Charles III wants to change that. Which we’ve always known – that’s why Harry was never removed, that’s why Andrew was never removed. It would be easier to do all of that once Charles was in charge. So here we go:

The King wants the law amended so that counsellors of state are working members of the Royal family, the Telegraph understands. The move would see the Duke of York, the Duke of Sussex and Princess Beatrice all relieved of their duties as official stand-ins for the sovereign, should he be indisposed.

Under the 1937 Regency Act, the spouse of a monarch and the four adults next in line to the throne can be deployed as counsellors of state on official business. When Queen Elizabeth was still on the throne, those roles were filled by the Prince of Wales, the Duke of Cambridge, the Duke of Sussex and the Duke of York, while the Duke of Edinburgh had also acted as one before his death. The change in the line of succession means that the new Queen Consort is now entitled to be a counsellor of state, as is Princess Beatrice as the next adult in line.

Buckingham Palace has long been under pressure to eject Prince Harry and Prince Andrew from their roles and install other working members of the family in their places. It is believed that the King recognises the incongruity of having a trio of non-working Royals able to step into his shoes if he is abroad or incapacitated. Earl of Wessex and the Princess Royal could take on role.

He is thought likely to take the relevant steps to have the law changed as soon as he can, raising the prospect that the Earl of Wessex and the Princess Royal could be elevated to the position. Such a move may form part of a wider redefinition of working and non-working royals. As such, if not determined solely by the line of succession as is currently the case, the Princess of Wales may also be included.

[From The Telegraph]

Yeah, whatever. We knew it would change under Charles and of course he would prefer to have Edward and Anne as his Counsellors of State. Camilla too. That’s what they all deserve – a bunch of elderly would-be retirees standing in for King Charles the Vindictive. I kind of doubt they’ll make Kate a Counsellor of State though.

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  1. Rapunzel says:

    Counsellor of State Katie Keen: Can you test the smell by smelling?

    • Noki says:

      I would laugh but i actually get what she meant Lol. You never thought you can taste something just from the smell?

    • DouchesOfCambridge says:

      What would she counsel about? She only has 5 big questions to everything, a pie chart and a recipe for about 12 pieces of brownies.

      • tour malinn says:

        Please, don’t be so biased towards Khate. You left out at least one garden and three recepies for chutney.

    • Lizzie says:

      More work for KKKate , I don’t think so. Not until she is qc and has no choice.

    • Eurydice says:

      Charles might want to wait on appointing Kate until he’s sure she won’t be permanently retiring to Adelaide Cottage.

    • MeganC says:

      IDK, I feel like Charles is doubling down on Kate. He made her PoW immediately and invited her parents to both funeral services. I feel like he is letting William know that a divorce is out of the question.

  2. goofpuff says:

    hahaha definitely not Kate unless they were incredibly desperate.

  3. LightPurple says:

    William is conspicuously absent from Daddy’s list of three.

  4. ShazBot says:

    It makes sense. This should be a non-story except they keep trying to shame Harry and “show him what he’s missing” as if this is something special.

  5. ThatsNotOkay says:

    He acts like he’s important. He’s not. But he’ll never understand it. Not unless the Commonwealth and Scotland publicly and permanently reject him. Then he might get it: you’re no better and are, in fact, demonstrably worse than anyone else.

    • Mia4s says:

      Hey now! If he’s incapacitated who will cut all those ribbons! I mean, those plaques aren’t going to just unveil themselves. 🤣

  6. TheOriginalMia says:

    This isn’t the snub the BM wishes it to be. Harry lives in the States. He’s no longer viable as a Counsellor of State. It should be those that are stuck on Salty Island. As for Princess of Keen, she isn’t going to be named one. Can you imagine?

  7. Becks1 says:

    Camilla IS a counsellor of state at this point – its the spouse of the monarch plus the next four in line over 21. So if he removes three (Harry, Andrew and Beatrice) then he needs three replacements, sooo….anne, edward and….Kate? I can’t see Charles giving her that role, lol. But maybe he would with the caveat that she is a stand-in for her son or something.

    • Nic919 says:

      Wasn’t she made one before the queen died? I thought she had been added recently because Philip had died.

  8. CrazyHeCallsMe says:

    Geez, Kate’s face in that picture looks rough without the photoshop. I’m in my 60s and my skin looks better than hers.

    • The Recluse says:

      Right?! She could improve her facial appearance easily by just putting on a little weight – 5 pounds maybe. She always looked so much healthier and better whenever she was pregnant or having recently given birth. Being so gaunt actually makes you look older once you pass 40.

      • Ladiabla says:

        She really would look better if she put on a little weight. I always thought she looks best when she’s preggers too. And the smoking thing, I can kinda see now. Maybe she’s not a chain smoker, but she probably enjoys a ciggy or two occasionally. Bleah

    • tegdirb says:

      I’m genuinely surprised she hasn’t had a “touch-up”. I wouldn’t blame her for it, she’s in the cameras a lot. Maybe just take a solo vacation to Switzerland for a bit and come back looking much more “refreshed”.

  9. Same says:

    “The King wants the law amended so that counsellors of state are working members of the Royal family, the Telegraph understands. ”

    “He is thought likely to take the relevant steps”

    “It is believed that the King recognizes the incongruity”

    Yet another article full of complete conjecture without a source in sight. The PoW is no where in the line of succession either but might as well throw another name at the wall.

  10. Amy Bee says:

    The only people who care about this story are the royalists who want to see Harry further punished for choosing to leave the family. I doubt Harry cares about this.

    • Becks1 says:

      I mean when was the last time this was a thing, like the last time a CoS had to step in for a monarch?

      Charles and William both do a lot of investitures and MBEs and things like that, but so does Anne, so that’s not tied to being a counsellor. Even being abroad doesn’t really mean the same thing in 2022 as it did decades ago, with email and cell phones and zoom etc.

      • Athena says:

        That’s what I was thinking, when was the last time they needed someone to step in and act as counselor of state. It’s perfectly reasonable that Harry being in California with multiple jobs is not readily available, adding Anne and Edward makes sense. How is this some kind of punishment for Harry? Is this on his resume? Is there significant compensation for this? Is KCIII’s reign going to be all about punishing his son?

        Kate will probably push for this but I doubt Charles will add her. CP Mary of Denmark is a counselor of state, which is rare, but I have read that Queen Margrethe has more trust in her than in her own son.

      • Lizzie says:

        Didn’t Charles open parliament this year, and William was there because 2 CoS are needed to step in.

  11. Sunshineinfiji says:

    Chuck is cutting his nose to spite his face. Again. While he’s there, he might like to include Carole as CoS, I hear she’s like a shadow Dowager PoW.

    • Zapp Brannigan says:

      Yes Carole Middleton for everything, counsellor of state, Queen, Queen Mother, Princess of Wales, Duke of Edinburgh, Prime Minister give her the lot, no joking she might actually get $hit done as she has more hustle than the lot of them put together, oh and Pippa Tips for Pope, please.

  12. susan says:

    and thus continues the slide into irrelevancy.

  13. Solidgold says:

    It’s for the best. The further Harry is out and away from this con the better. Hopefully the media will focus on the paid royal members.

  14. tamsin says:

    I think this makes sense. Besides, Anne is more than qualified, and Edward because he’s there.
    Although, “working royal” is getting to be a ridiculous term in my mind. Maybe Active Monarchy Reps, AMR’s! LOL

  15. Carrot says:

    What did Beatrice do to deserve this insult? Other than wearing a hat that made Kate cry eleven years ago?

    • Lizzie says:

      It begs the question why isn’t Bea a working royal? It’s always been reported that she would like to be a working royal and now she has moved up the succession ranking to be a CoS.
      KC3 talks out both sides of his mouth, he wants to slim down the monarchy AND he needs more bodies to carry the workload.

  16. NessaB says:

    Kate is not the monarch’s wife or in the line of succession so they would not even consider her until Big Willy hits the throne.

  17. Lizzie says:

    The current law lists qualifications such as rank, age, being domiciled in the UK, etc.. How would a new law qualify ‘working royal’ ? A royal who cuts ribbons or goes on tours?

  18. Louise177 says:

    I still don’t understand why this is such a big deal. It’s not as if when it’s used it’s for anything important. Charles and William did it a few times for the Queen and it was just ceremonial. Harry is in the US so it doesn’t make sense to have him as a counselor. Kate isn’t going to be one. She will have to wait for William to be king.

    • [insert_catchy_name] says:

      EXACTLY. The king is just a ceremonial figurehead, who cares if the Councellors of State are “working” royals or not- it literally doesn’t matter.

      The fact this is considered a big thing he has to deal, in these times we are living in, just shows how out of touch with reality he is.

  19. Lizzie says:

    If it’s such a splendid idea why didn’t the queen do it?

    • Blithe says:

      I wonder if the Queen had a longer view, and prioritized the future of the monarchy above the pettiness of Charles and William. Elizabeth’s family experiences included everything from losing relatives to plane crashes and bombings, to her uncle’s abdication— which directly led to her own reign. She got that life can be unpredictable and that stuff happens. Perhaps beyond her favoritism re: Andrew, she realized that a septuagenarian Charles, William — without the structure that characterized her own reign, and a shy-seeming 9 year old form a bench without much depth. In this light, she may have recognized the wisdom of keeping the hard-working, caring, charming Prince Harry at least nominally in the fold, at least until George reaches adulthood.

  20. Nic919 says:

    Working royal is not defined in the Regency Act and I really doubt Charles wants to have that in black and white.

    Andrew is really the issue here. He is the stain compared to the rest.

  21. HeyKay says:

    Princess Anne has done more working events than Kate or William at 70+ years of age.
    Now, I understand that W&K have 3 young kids, so I’ll bend on that a bit.
    But, why not Edward or Sophie to help out?

    Granted Harry has the popular touch but he wants out, so gotta bring in the crew that actually lives in UK.

    Princess Bea + Eugenie are both of royal blood, get them working too.
    Time to start putting these younger royals in place.
    Prince George has at min 10-12 years before anyone should reasonably expect him up front.

    After writing this and thinking about it… I really feel sorry for George, if William is trapped, George is too.

  22. Ice chocolate says:

    Im So Tired this circus. Its really really tiring

  23. QuiteContrary says:

    So the Telegraph says Buckingham Palace has long been under pressure to change the counselors of state. Under pressure from whom? Who even cares, except the RR, which seize every chance to write Harry and Andrew in the same sentence?

    This crap is exhausting.

  24. A says:

    Alrighty then, this is Charles getting a move on on the first part of his agenda as the constitutional head of state.

    The way I understand it, the British constitution, while unwritten, is understood to be composed of all of these different documents and laws and treaties and things that have been written and implemented over the centuries, starting from the Magna Carta, up to the 1998 Good Friday Agreement, etc. I’m guessing the 1937 Regency Act is also a part of that giant pile of laws and legal conventions that are amassed together to function as a constitution.

    Charles, by changing who gets to be Counsellor of State, is essentially amending the constitution. In any other part of the world, this sort of thing would be rightfully seen as a political process, but not in Britain, where it’s still insisted that the monarch is a purely ceremonial role, even though the monarch is literally able to get the law changed through his own initiative when it comes to matters that fall under his purview as head of state.

    Personally, I don’t think making changes to who exactly gets to step in for the head of state if they are ever unable to discharge their constitutional duties is an apolitical or purely ceremonial matter, but then again, who really knows.