Over the weekend, Netflix announced that The Crown’s Season 5 will premiere on schedule on November 9th. They also released a teaser, showcasing the “war of the Waleses” during the 1990s. Buckingham Palace managed to get a piece into the Sunday edition of the Telegraph, with well-placed palace aides sniffing, complaining and explaining on behalf of King Charles III. What has always bothered Charles about The Crown is that the show gets the broad strokes right, and it takes all of these people away from tabloid caricatures and we get a glimpse of the real history. QEII’s tendency to ostrich, her inability to parent her children, her coldness. Diana’s temperamental nature, her youth and vivacity, how quickly the palace machinery ate her up. Charles’s manipulative side, his dismissal of Diana, the fact that he really never loved her. So, yeah, Season 5 is going to be bad for the new King Charles III. So what is he going to do about it?
“It is my understanding that the palace has devised a plan to fight any misinformation or fiction with facts,” Kinsey Schofield, royal expert and host of the “To Di For” podcast, told Fox News Digital. “Expect King Charles and Queen Consort Camilla’s friends to speak out on their behalf. Expect to see a push of any documentaries the pair have participated in to resurface. Expect a flood of King Charles books to hit shelves. There might even be… I can’t believe I’m saying this… fresh interviews with the couple. Something we never saw from the queen.”
Still, Schofield suspects the palace will find a way to address the public reaction – and any backlash that comes with it.
“The palace wants to make ‘the truth’ more available and accessible than ever so if anyone begins to research their story beyond Netflix’s ‘The Crown,’ they will find it instantly,” said Schofield. “You might see a fresh pursuit to add a fiction warning to each episode of ‘The Crown.’ Netflix has already said they won’t do this, but the PR around a campaign like that highlights intentionally that this is a work of fiction.”
The “fiction warning” issue is a particularly funny one because they already tried to argue that in 2020 and Netflix came out with Diana: In Her Own Words, using the audio recordings Diana made for Andrew Morton. Netflix shows their sourcing too, and what Charles can’t stand is that Netflix and Peter Morgan bases The Crown on actual historical records, it’s just that the historical records are damaging to Charles. Because he treated Diana so poorly for years. Also: the “fiction warning” issue was about the crown’s inability to control or bargain with Netflix. The BBC caves to the Windsors on a regular basis, as do most British broadcasters. Netflix doesn’t have to cave. Netflix doesn’t care.
It will genuinely crack me up if the new king decided to use the full weight of the palace to try to counter The Crown’s narratives. Will we see a joint interview with Camilla and Charles in November? Lord, that would be something. I think it’s far more likely that Charles will do the same thing he did for Season 4: a completely bonkers pity-poor-me PR campaign which ended up driving more attention to The Crown.
The Daily Beast’s Royalist column also had a piece on Charles’s efforts to ramp up a campaign against The Crown. The Royalist surprised me by calling Charles’s complaints “unfair and disingenuous” and pointing out that overwhelmingly, the show is pretty fair to its subjects. You can read that piece here.
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Dude, you literally made your bed (with gold-threaded sheets for all I know) and now you have to lay in it. Boo hoo.
And made it FORTY YEARS AGO with ample receipts documenting the making! Like, this is in the public domain. What kind of dunce do you have to be to think you can PR spin your way out of this??? These people are Martians. Really stupid Martians.
Don’t diss Martians! They are soon to be our overlords according to Elon Musk.
What I never understood is why he never apologized? would it have been better to apologize for his poor treatment of Diana and promise to do better? not only for him moving forward but as a good example for his children?
I just don’t get the approach of denials after denials after denials……people who were adults in the 90s are still ALIVE! he is an idiot
Because apologizing would mean he did something wrong, and he’s now married to “something wrong.”
@Eurydice — but he did do something wrong; it is weird how these people never want to apologize when they did something wrong! no one (maybe their UK subjects think differently?) is expecting them to be perfect! Based on their past shenanigans, they are clearly damaged and pretty dumb individuals!
It’s a typical narcissist’s MO – nothing is EVER their fault, and they will invariably throw everyone else under the bus to make themselves look like the victim. They never apologize or admit guilt. Remember, the narcissism runs strong in that family, Harry seems to be the only one who escaped the Windsor curse.
What would that apology look like without pointing the finger at the royal machine somehow for forcing him into a marriage he never wanted? Something like “While I deeply love my children, the truth is that their mother and I barely knew each other when we married and were not well suited. I regret any pain that my actions caused her.” Except I don’t know how he can admit to regret as the representation of God on Earth or whatever it is that the Church of England believes.
Also he looks like a teddy bear hamster.
Yes, very much alive and not all that old, like Diana herself were she still here.
My father has never said he is sorry for anything. The words will not leave his mouth, no matter what he’s done. I don’t think he’s physically capable of it. And he doesn’t have an entire royal apparatus propping him up.
Never apologize, never decolonize.
Definitely unfair to Charles in that he got a major glow-up in Dominic West…still think it’s the wrong casting though, Dominic doesn’t have Charles’ Eeyore vibe at all
Came here to say this. If I were Charles, I’d just shut up and take the win that they cast Dominic West who at least has some charisma.
C3 could never look as good as Dominic. Chuck should be happy they didn’t cast him with a chinless actor with close-set beady eyes.
An interview with the new king & consort will be hilarious. Dying to see how Cam will present herself to justify her adulterous behavior and cruelty.
Actually, Charles in his 30’s and 40’s looked quite a bit like Dominic above (fit and stylish, and somewhat attractive because of that). He was athletic, always a sharp dresser, and looked especially good kitted out for polo. There’s online photos of Charles at a polo match with Will and Harry, when he must have been in his early 50’s, and he still looks okay, still fit, though grayer and not as slim. With all the pictures over the last month, I’ve been wondering what happened to that person. After all, look at Biden, who’s more than five years older (bit of trivia, their birthdays are a week apart next month). He’s still trim and fit, while Charles seems to have fully embraced his inner schlub, and looks like someone else entirely.
I don’t know whether Dominic West is British or not, but if he’s the same Dominic West who seduced Rene Zellweger in Chicago, then he’s better looking than Charles ever thought of being. And Charles ought to really sit down and take his little medicine instead of acting out that old time chestnut of “If complaining doesn’t work, then keep on doing it.”
I have a hard time watching him after the reports came out about his fling with Lily James and he went running back to his rich wife.
I also came here to say that. Also Ms James needs to rehab her image 🫣
@SumoDo1
We might need to let her do whatever between her,the other parties involved, and God at her own time, and not only just worry about the woman’s reputation in this scenario 😒
@ladyEsther, DYINGG over “Eeyore vibes”!!! Lololollll!! So true!
It hit me very recently that the literal cartoon caricature of a spoiled, weak-chinned, bandy-legged, nasal/snotty-voiced, droopy posture royal that’s popped up in anything that needs character like that got it basis in Charles!
Like even when it’s not supposed to be him, at some point before I was born, animators seemed to have a Jungian collective consciousness thing and created an… Ahem… archetype… Based on him!
I wish I could remember some instances and where. It’s so clear in my mind.
Maybe I should start watching the crown. I know I won’t like the Diana part, I was alive then, I know what happened to her
Only reason I am here at CB is for the horror they continue to visit on Meghan. That has to stop
I lke that photo selection of Charles. He never learns this could be more of a fiasco than his 1994 interview. And Camilla can play victim like she did in 2017. I wonder if Charles will resort to putting down his parents again
Charles cannot rewrite the past he should have thought of this before he bungled so many things
After Andrew’s calamitous interview where he digged himself a hole so deep he could reach China, I can’t wait to see that self-conscious mockery of a king interfere with artistic creation, which is a constitutional freedom. Everything about Charles’ rationale and world vision turns out to be boorish and vile.
The Queen got it right by not directly addressing the dramatizations of “The Crown”.
I can’t believe that Chazman would do interviews. That worked really well in the early 90’s, right?
Diana isn’t here to defend herself, but of course. They will paint her as narcissistic and/or histrionic.
Queen Camilla still does not sound right to me.
In other words “since Diana isn’t here to refute anything we say, we will go into full-blown PR and lies against her.” I’m sure any interview they do to counter “lies” will be fine. Only H&M aren’t allowed to correct “fictions”.
I just know charles regrets doing that interview with Dimbleby because if he didn’t he would be full on denying he ever cheated.
It’s so hilarious that Charles is even considering doing an interview and trying to make a move out of the Sussexes’ playbook, hoping for worldwide sympathy. The difference is, the Sussexes were dropping truth bombs, while Charles and Queen Concubine Camilla will be lying their ascots off. It definitely won’t work. It will go down worse than Andrew on a trafficked teenager. It will go down worse than Andrew’s Pizza Express Woking wambulance. I’m here for it!
Yes, it would be so yummy, but I can’t imagine Camilla would want this. She’s spent so much time flying under the radar – but, hey, she wanted to be Queen Consort…
Camilla already did this. She did fly under the radar but she also went to the Sun Editor Stuart Higgins (he confirmed this) for ten years every week during the C and D marriage, to give her side. She was more overt when she did an actual interview in 2017 and played “poor me” card when she could not leave the house, if she thought a bit she would realize this was of her own doing, and did not think of Diana at all. Junor confirmed she and Charles cooperated with her on The Duchess (2017) which was loaded with gaslighting of Diana and raising Camilla to sainthood and absolving her of breakingup the C and D Marriage (according to her friend Junor). Camilla should just keep quiet and so should Charles.
@Tessa – yes, exactly, what would be the point now? They can’t have everything. They’re already King and Queen Consort for the rest of his life and, given their history, it’s a bit much to expect everyone to love them, as well. If they just keep quiet and do their work, maybe the monarchy will last until it’s William’s turn.
We already know Charles and Camilla were planning on “reintroducing” her to the American people with her planned interview with Today’s Jenna that was scrapped due to the Queen’s death. They really want to be popular. They are just not likeable. Charles is a pompous ass and Camilla presents as someone who will be lovely to your face and throw you under a bus as soon as your back is turned. If you have to work this hard to make yourself happen, it is not going to happen. They need to focus on keeping the UK together and leave America alone.
“Lying their ascots off” … perfection.
Diana isn’t here. But the world watched how she was treated and continues to mourn her. And it’s like we’re globally watching season 5 together at a massive slumber party, rooting once again for Diana. How ya gonna combat that level of camaraderie?
I’m with Betty Rose. If the palace tries to smear Diana in any way (like trying to say “she wasn’t perfect either”) I would love to see the public’s reaction. I would love to see if Charles actually tries this because the pushback will be amazing.
Yeah, I mean, I was a primary school kid in 1992 from a non-English speaking country and still remember tampon-gate (how I laughed, sorry but to a kid that is funny about a snobbish prince), the Taj Mahal picture, Diana’s interview, etc.
I was firmly Team Diana.
This didn’t happen in the 1950s, with fewer media and people still alive to remember it.
Diana might not be here, but Harry is. And the pictures of this man being treated disgustingly by his own family; the photos were reminiscent of him walking behind his mother’s coffin. Charles Point 3 is an absolute FOOL to not realize that his optics of Asshole King within the first two weeks of his reign wreak of the same behavior we heard from Diana, to seeing on The Crown. He’s a fool. He should be getting an exorcism done because the things Diana said about him have haunted him so badly that he is now being possessed by them …. or it’s just his real personality.
Well, now Charles point Three is how I’ll think of him.
And I’ll be thinking of him as the Asshole King.
He is an absolute disgrace. And how can he not know how weak and childish he will look if he does this. I just saw the documentary of Andrew on HBO (I think) and one of the interviewees made the point that nobody ever tells the royals the truth—the RF has people bowing to them and agreeing with them and praising them day in and day out. A situation that creates raging narcissists. As this is the case, Charles’s judgment is severely impaired. His advisor’s should have told him he will look like a massive wanker. But to be sure they didn’t. Blind leading the blind.
All the better to amuse us all! I love a well-deserved train wreck. Bring it on, Charles! We will enjoy your ratings gettting lower and lower with every stupid, cruel action you take. Especially toward H & M. Wanker.
Will Charles try to rewrite history saying he was forbidden to marry Camilla. After he told his biographer he did not want to marry Camilla when he first met her. If he tries to gaslight Diana i think this will backfire on him. He is a disgrace.
If I remember correctly her family didn’t want her to marry Charles & she wasn’t considered a suitable match for him. Camila’s family put out an engagement announcement in the newspaper which forced Andrew Parker Bowles to propose. Charles had been sent abroad on a naval exercise & he came back to news of either their engagement or they were already married. So that’s not necessarily true about Charles not wanting to marry Camilla. He couldn’t.
Charles could have told her to wait for him. Camilla was avid to marry Andrew Parker Bowles back then and dated him since 1966, Camilla wanted the marriage to APB not to Charles. Charles could have written to Camilla or told her to wait for him until his return from the navy, he did not. He never told her they had a future. It is subject to speculation if she would have married him if he had said this or would she still have wanted APB. Charles COULD have married Camilla. He was an adult. the thing is he did not even try. Charles was and is wishy washy, plus he had many other women in his life besides Camilla. Camilla was shrewder than most of his other lady friends. Charles was never “forbidden.” Camilla if she did not want to marry APB would not have married him, she worked for the marriage much like Kate waited for William.
That’s not what he told Jonathan Dimbleby, the royal sycophant who wrote his authorized biography. Tessa is correct. Camilla was his favorite married mistress, not his soulmate. She won the game of thrones by knowing how to massage his ego and sticking it out (and letting him stick it in) for decades, not by blowing his mind (and other things) in their mid-20s.
The Crown went with Charles’s revised PR version on this–that he and Camilla were star-crossed lovers–but that wasn’t the version he went with in his authorized biography. The revised Charleo and Horsiet version appeared nowhere prior to the early 21st century.
Charles should be grateful to The Crown for giving him a better edit than he deserves, even if it was likely for the sake of brevity and/or staying on theme.
I totally agree with Tessa and KARA. Charles and Camilla tried to spin their story as a one great love but Charles was completely capable of loving other women such as Lady Tyron (Kanga) and Anna Wallace. When he was still married to Diana, he cheated on BOTH Diana and Camilla with Janet Jenkins. She proudly bragged about it to American media. Ive read that Diana snubbed Jenkins at Charles 40th Birthday Party, if it was true, it means that Diana did Charles a HUGE favour for only exposing Camilla. Camilla was a problem because she didnt know her place, she tormented Diana and Charles never showed her the same love he did to Camilla. Like Diana said in Panorama when Bashir asked about the effect on her because of Charles relationship with Camilla.
B: And with a husband who was having a relationship with somebody else?
D: With a husband who loved someone else, yes.
Lady Diana, Lady Tyron: the death rate and tagic endings among the women involved with Charles is statistically higher than average.
@PurpleHazeForever As someone who was around at the time, marrying her wasn’t really just his choice. Members of the royal family, by law, need the approval of the monarch to marry, with the Privy Council voting on it. So his mother did have an effective veto on his choice of wife. Yes, he could have removed himself from the line of succession, but he was never going to do that.
There was also a creepy, even for the time, obsession with the fact that whoever he married had to be a virgin. There were whole articles at the time that he had fallen in love with Camilla, but he knew he couldn’t marry her because she had had previous lovers.
My read on the situation is that he met all these women and either they didn’t want any part of marrying him or he thought he could do better. So when Diana showed up, had no previous boyfriends, and obviously wanted to marry him, the pressure on him was enormous. He was weak and thus married her. He was monstrously egotistical and thought that because she had wanted to marry him, he could treat her however he wanted.
@ concern fae…I doubt the Queen would have approved of Camilla, either. But Charles told his autobiographer that he was in love with Camilla, had been happy with her & didn’t have the courage to propose & yet other commenters are blowing it out of proportion. I get it, no one likes Charles. But don’t distort what he said.
The Streisand effect… He must do this because he really don’t have enough information on HM to use them as cover for entire Crown season. I’m sure his DF hires are also reluctant to publish new private briefing lies about HM given lawsuit. I think Chucky may eventually use Walses though.
Thank you, I came on here to say Babs called and she wants her Streisand Effect back. Does he have ANYONE on his payroll who can help him at least pretend to act a little less like a spoiled petulant man-child… or does he just not listen to them because he is a Charles the Turd!
Out of any season of the Crown this might be the most truthful one considering the directors have 2 sit down interviews and an autobiography to work with. Not to mention tapes of that autobiography. Oh and a leaked phone sex conversation.
I wish the tampon tape was phone sex — it wouldn’t be nearly as gross. It’s just Charles doing his normal massive self-pity routine while Camilla murmurs agreements at him. He wants to be with her at all times because she’s his comfort object.
Now that I think of it, what is it about Camilla that has such an enduring appeal to a narcissist like Charles? Surely it is the fact that his needs must come first every time. That she must sooth and encourage him like she would a child. Imagine giving up everything you are to play such a role. Camilla lives a completely inauthentic life. No wonder she is so angry and racist and spiteful.
Same applies to Kate. I cannot imagine being in such chains.
@Dee — Not only that his needs come first. But that she has no needs. That her entire life is entirely bent to serving his whims, and she gets nothing from him in return. It’s hard for people to realize that extreme narcissists like Chuck do not care the tiniest bit about anyone else, under any circumstances whatsoever.
Exactly. He’s gonna have a hell of a time trying to refute everything when his own words are out there for the world to see.
Never complain, never explain. And I love they cast a cheater in the role as well.
Yes! I think that Domenic West is a known and documented cheater is a huge part of the push back against the show!
Seems like that first bit died with Elizabeth
not sure if I read this here, or on Twitter. But they “Never Report, Never Support, Always Retort” vs ‘never complain, never explain’.
and the black and white of the statements cracks me up every time.
Chuck should shut up and just be happy that they chose much more handsome actors to play his ugly self. This man is
repulsive both inside and out. May his reign be short and painful.
Chucky has a poor health and has been so restless and agitated over the last 2 weeks, it feels as if he’s been on the throne for 2 years already. This king has staged his ubiquitous presence on every nonsensical battle front:
– demoting the Duchess of Sussex,
– humiliating Prince Henry,
– demoting Princess Lilibet,
– demoting Prince Archie
– Promoting William
– Promoting Kate
– blackmailing his son into bowdlerizing his book
– threatening to right the wrongs of a tv show
Charles squanders his old man’s energy in a way that he might have to abdicate in 5 years in favor of William. I personally don’t see Charles lasting at this pace and I don’t see Wails being any better than him as a king.
And continuing to keep Edward from getting duke of Edinburgh title
@Tessa: Yes, I forgot that one. What you’re reminding us is that Charles’ vindictiveness and cruelty won’t even stop at his slimiest suckers. So the Sussexes might as well do and say whatever they have to, since it wouldn’t make a difference to a sadist like Chuck, anyways. Edward becoming Duke of Edinburgh wouldn’t take anything away from Charles, quite the contrary, but antagonizing his own allies is pleasurable to someone like Charles.
“Charles can’t stand is that Netflix and Peter Morgan bases The Crown on actual historical records, it’s just that the historical records are damaging to Charles. Because he treated Diana so poorly for years”. This!
There are too many biographies, courtiers have talked, their security personnel, the newspapers.
He himself had “that interview”. The one before Diana’s, the one that Prince William totally ignored when he talked about the impact of Diana’s interview on the marriage.
These people continue to operate like we are back in the day. Maybe because the legitimate media like the BBC continue to kowtow to them while they buy the support of the tabloids by leaking and throwing each other under the bus.
*shrug* this man has been treated like a demigod his whole life. It must be hard for him, the new reality where people DGAF what he thinks. Sorry Chuck. This is the price you pay for the life you’ve lead.
He & Tom Brady could have a pity party for two.
I often wonder if their response isn’t because they’ve heard something not yet public about the production. They must get briefed. Maybe they’ve seen a screening? Maybe Domenic west does a particularly great and disposable job as Charles. I’m ready and buckled up for this ride. Can’t wait! I hope they come out swinging. Diana’s in her own words was the best things she ever did and last years the crown reignited all of that. This year – let’s see what happens.
The Crown is WAY too kind to Charles, and to all the Windsors. They tried to make us feel sorry for Nazi Edward — how about no. They hid Philip’s affairs and racism. They made the Queen Mother look like a semi-decent human being. And they ran with the myth that Charles and Camilla were twu wuv, rather than the fact that Charles had a lot of affairs. They also massaged things so that it wasn’t clear how much older Charles was than the naive teenage girl he lovebombed and abused.
I hope Charles does try a pr war against the show, though. It would be hilarious. He’s horrible at this stuff.
Yeah, i seem to remember them fawning over the first seasons. Suddenly the tide has turned?
They made a whole episode about Edward and his nszi conncetions, with terrible things he had done.
I don’t think they tried to make people feel sorry for him?
They had ONE episode about it. Meanwhile, they had multiple episodes about his love with Wallace, and one that ended with him crying while playing the bagpipes because he missed home so much. And they didn’t mention him being a Nazi once in the episode where he died. Instead, it was all a big pity party for him. The one Nazi episode could be cut from the series entirely and not change a thing. That is a very serious problem.
Meghan has been enduring non stop abuse for six years. This one gets heat for a fictional show which is just a dramatic recreation of real life events and this thin skinned 73 yr old overprivileged, pompous, entitled brat is rattled. But keep going. Netflix will never get such free publicity for their show from the subjects they made it about.
@Mooney you nailed your comment. Meghan has remained steadfast in her support of the issues most important to her throughout the vilification coming from the UK and some US clout chasers. Charles has set back and enjoyed this from his position of father and father in law. Now it is his time to sweat from a historical fiction piece from the Crown. I often wonder if he does not realize that many dignitaries are laughing behind his back. Imagine being this delusional to think folks really admire you. Here we have a man who treated the mother of his children like thrash and publicly tried to humiliate his youngest son and came away looking like a total ass. Folks read of his treatment of his former wife in real time and saw him marry that harlot. Hard to respect this type of being. The best most can say is they both Charles and Camilla look like broken down horses who deserve whatever karma is available for their behavior.
So right, Maxine. I only recently realized, by the way, how manufactured the RFs public appearances are (i.e., not just their manufactured print productions, that is). I mean, I see that Peggington and Haggard Buttons had to have a media blackout on their visit to Ireland, and at the same time they invited fans to see them at the visit to ensure they would gat a good reception. Didn’t really work, though, did it.
I suspect that more and more RF appearances will have to be carefully staged and monitored. Because somehow it has gotten through to their eminently thick skulls that they are nowhere near as popular as the queen (or the Sussexes for that matter) and more and more people are sick of paying them millions in taxpayer money while basic services get cut.
Charles going after The Crown is not going to solve that problem.
When the Irish and Scottish sing “Lizzie’s in a box,” and the Welsh loudly boo Charles during the funeral events, it is a harbinger of things to come.
The monarchy as an institution has vast institutional power over the media, law, etc which they can choose to exercise or not. Obviously in respect of the negative portrayal of Meghan in some sections of the media they choose to keep silent to the extent that Guardian once reported that the thrashing of Meghan has become a national sport in UK.
Charles and Cams **should** be worried. Season 5 is going to be brutal because for many of us the reenactment of actual interviews, phone hacks, etc. serve as a brutal reminder of their horrific characters and treatment of Diana, and for the rest, it will be a shocking reveal. Sorry, CIII, you do not have the reverence your mother enjoyed. Doubtful many will buy your pitiful attempts to gaslight and rewrite history. Netflix will rerun their Diana In Her Own Words documentary and every other factual content that can’t help but reinforce the “fiction” of The Crown. Can’t wait!
Netflix should run a companion piece that shows the real life interviews, tapes and articles from the time associated with the storylines they cover on the show.
First of all, Kinsey Schofield is the American nutter that photoshopped herself into Harry and Meghan’s wedding portrait. How this woman continues to get work is beyond me.
Secondly, Charles can complain and explain till the cows come home, no one is going to sympathize with him. He lives inside an echo chamber where his minions never question or push back against his horrid behavior. A life time of having his ass kissed gives home ZERO real world perspective. Shit, if he and Camilla give sit down interviews, it might be as bad as the Andrew one that destroyed him.
This is going to be a delicious slow motion train wreck.
“Nutter” is right. Who does that? I understand having a crush on a celebrity, but to photoshop yourself into a picture with him like that is completely bonkers. If nothing else, is she incapable of embarrassment?
Season 5 is *the season*. We have patiently waited through all the historical drama, gushed over the lavish settings, learned new things. But season 5 is the season we’ve all been waiting for to relive the era of the RF that many of us grew up with and all of us discuss and parse regularly. The timing, though. We didn’t predict it airing between QE2’s death and Charles’s coronation.
God’s perfect timing! I’m imagining Diana up there giving instructions on when to drop things to give maximum damage to the monarchy.
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This!!! Diana is cashing in all of her favors up in heaven
People like myself (62), remembers what Charles and Seabiscuit did to Diana. The BRF dogged her out! To go on national television and say that he never loved her, is the coldest thing that you can do. To get angry at her because she gave birth to a boy instead of a girl.
To leave her after giving birth so that you can go hang out with the sidepiece.
To tell Diana that you (Charles), won’t be the only King without a mistress, is demonic! You made your royal bed, so for once, you and Seabisciut lay in it.
Phillip was known to be a distant daddy to Chuck. Chuck looked to Mountbatten as his father-figure & Lord M told the teen-aged prince that mistresses were “de rigeur” for kings & advised him to marry a docile virgin while pursuing any other amours as he pleased.
Fidelity to a wife was never part of the moral code for British monarchs and was an exception when it was observed.
Mountbatten wanted Charles to marry his granddaughter Amanda Knatchbull, and of course Amanda was a distant cousin of Charles. Mountbatten had dynastic aspirations to be the great grandfather of a future monarch. Amanda would travel with Mountbatten and Charles so they could get to know each other. When Amanda came of age, Charles was seen socially with her. When Mountbatten died, Charles proposed to Amanda so he could carry out Mountbatten’s wishes, but with her grandfather gone, Amanda said no. I wonder if Mountbatten would have told Amanda to look the other way when Charles had mistresses.
And fidelity to a husband wasn’t a factor in the Mountbattens’ own marriage. Presumably Amanda would know all about their history via her mother Pamela, and her aunt Patricia Hicks (author of Daughter of Empire), and you have to wonder how that shaped her own views towards marriage, especially possible marriage to future king Charles. According to DOE, Mountbatten was devastated to discover early on that his wife Edwinna was having affairs, but ultimately they coexisted peacefully in an open marriage. One of her long term-lovers was accepted as part of the family, and at the end of her life (in 1960), she was involved in a deeply emotional relationship (platonic or not) with Nehru. And, any other proclivities aside, Mountbatten was involved long-term with a married Frenchwoman, supposedly the model for Gigi, who also was absorbed into the family dynamic.
According to Hicks, her parents marriage worked because of her father’s “total desire for my mother’s happiness”. Apparently this lesson was either forgotten by Mountbatten by the time Charles came along, or just lost on Charles altogether. Also, it was apparently Mountbatten, not Edwinna, that was closest to his children. To Edwinna, they were generally an inconvenience in the midst of her traveling and socializing.
Given this history and his early feelings about his own wife’s infidelies, and that he wanted a match between Charles and his own granddaughter, it’s fairly revolting for Mountbatten to come up with the idea that mistresses were the king’s prerogative and Charles should marry and screw around on the side.
Mountbatten was a pedophile. And Charles sure has liked him some pedophiles in his life…
@Grace too true. I’m 63 & I vividly recall Charles/Diana’s disastrous engagement interview. Me yelling at tv screen when Charles said the infamous “Whatever love is” bit. I wanted Diana to call it off then & there. I remember getting up early to watch their wedding & hoping for the best. I certainly haven’t forgotten CIII’s dirty deeds. Nor Camilla’s role in breaking up the marriage & gaslighting Diana.
Why is the Royal Family so bad at this? Is this what they are paying PR people for? Instead of ‘never complain, never explain,’ all Charles does is complain and explain. The Windsors (also on Netflix) makes Charles look like a buffoon and Camilla, a chain-smoking evil woman, but no complaints about that show. It’s only The Crown, a prestigious drama that has historical consultants, that he’s crying about. And as others have pointed out, by casting Josh O’Connor, who is not that much older than Emma Corrin, and erasing Charles’ other affairs, the show was more sympathetic to him than it should have been.
The princess documentary actually had video of his behavior including self pity like his asking camera people if he was in the way when the camera people were photographing Diana. His saying at a banquet that he needed two wives while Diana visibly cringed.plus his being filmed leaving his home to play polo leaving Diana and his newborn second child soon after leaving the hospital.
What is the point of them constantly running to the press about this? We all know what really happened.
I keep hearing the voice of Baldrick from Blackadder – “I have a cunning plan…”
Oh, please, yes, Charles, do have a series of televised interviews. Because that went so well for Andrew, didn’t it? And I’m sure Camilla would love to be dragged into it, too.
But but but, never complain, never explain!
The Crown is not a documentary. Why is he so pressed? They portrayed JFK as an physical abuser which was borderline defamatory. Charles needs to calm down.
Who’s taking anything that Kinsey Schofield says seriously? She’s basically a deranger. I think Charles will do what he always does which is complain to the DM about how mean the Crown is to him. It’s like he never thought that there would be TV shows, documentaries and books about his treatment of Diana. I’m glad that the Crown will be depicting his interview because people tend to forget that he did one months before and that Diana’s was essentially a response to his.
Honestly Kinsey knows as much as any of us commenting. It’s crazy to see people like her or Neil Sean held up as royal experts& shows how much of a grift it all is.
People like Robert Jobson said during the oceana tour there hadn’t been as much interest in the royal family since Diana. Do you think if Diana hadn’t sadly passed the interest in the royal family in juxtaposition to what Diana was doing, would have remained until William & Harry we’re adults? Just curious how long the cottage industry of royal ‘experts’ with their podcasts etc since Meghan joined the family, can last.
I hope this season of the crown really has the palace crying but I suspect it will more be about Diana ‘manipulating’ the media as opposed to fighting back against the palace.
C-Rex is making a big mistake if he makes any kind of attempt to convince the peasants that The Crown is fictional. Just let it be. Ignore it. Maintain a dignified silence. The movie The Queen is a not so flattering portrait of one of the more shameful periods in Betty’s life but did she stomp her feet and whine and goad the tabloids into a propaganda campaign to gaslight viewers into thinking the portrayal wasn’t true? No. Charles is a hurt, whiny fuddy-duddy who needs therapy to get over his victim mentality.
This is why Burger King is so desperate to keep his cheating shenanigans on the down low and out of the headlines. Yes, Twitter has a good time with his rose gardening and other hobbies, but I doubt any filmmaker will get the green light to do a whole movie or streaming series based on social media trends.
Just because Williams affairs aren’t printed in the tabloids, doesn’t mean they don’t have photo’s and the stories of them. They just haven’t printed them. Yet.
This. They probably have MOUNTAINS of pictures, video, audio, texts, emails, financial and medical records on every single one of William’s indiscretions, unethical behavior and straight up crimes that they are sitting on until the time is right. Right now they are being used for blackmail and access. One day that won’t be enough and they will release the kraken.
The funniest thing about this is he really could have pivoted into happy loved up husband/father/grandfather if he didn’t have the Sussex issue hanging over his head. The first 3 seasons of the crown made him very very sympathetic in ways that this generation who didn’t experience the Diana years responded to. He could have easily said look I did something bad cuz I was hurting due to this weird harsh life I was born into and my parents made a tough situation worse. I hurt the mother of my kids but once we divorced and got some space we grew to admire and respect each other. now with the love of my soulmate I have become a happier and healthier person who works in service of the uk.
Tik tok is loving a serial killer right now. He wouldn’t even need to say it he could just brief it. Basically he could have the shine he had in the day he walked Meghan down the aisle.
But he just spent the past few years, with a particularly nasty past few months, showing the same ugliness he showed during the diana years and so now he can’t pivot.
I’ve been joking with my friend lately that some ancestral African curse is being realized in Britain right now cuz so many things are just so baffling in how they are playing out.
They are very short sighted, I don’t think the BRF has ever grasped the “bigger picture”. They definitely have let the hate and racism rule over common sense. The BRF and their PR really do make everything worse for themselves. It would be funny see him trying to get Netflix UK to ban the Crown all for this shallow man overinflated ego.
This would be a perfect PR strategy, if he were a different person. But Charles was produced , raised and lived a lifetime in the family that also produced Andrew. That same entitlement, resentment, jealousy, the feeling of being a superior victim. A PR strategy to look more sympathetic would mean he’d have to acknowledge that he’s not sympathetic – but he’s still a toddler wondering why mummy doesn’t love him.
No one should forget that Charles and Andrew have both chosen horrific pedophiles as “close friends and confidantes. People should be asking why? Between this and the bags of cash just how involved is this family with human trafficking? This isn’t coincidence.
Exactly, past seasons were VERY sympathetic to him. He talked about his distant mother, his father making him go to that awful boarding school in his book & interview with Dimbleby. He admitted his affair with Camilla. There’s nothing to clap back at; it’s all true. This is one narrative he can’t control
It looks like the king of the commonwealth is more concerned with his hurt man-baby feeling than doing any good for his subjects. Good luck with that, King man-baby.
These idiots just can’t get out of their own way.
It’s funny how the Royal family and British media loved The Crown for the first 3 or 4 years. But for the Diana years they claim it’s a false, horrible show.
Never complain, never explain.
Sure Chuck.
Even a child knows that no one is universally loved and admired by everyone.
Why go after the Crown, the number of people who disliked the relationship and marriage of the divorced couple remains the same today.
What have changed is the number of disinterested individuals which increased.
Having never seen the Crown, I cannot comment on its accuracy, but do understand that it is an interpretation of everything about the royal family.
A broad stroke approach.
Why invest capital on the Crown, it will be the lest of his problems?
Leave well alone.
Yeah, if The Crown isn’t talking about Kanga, he’s seriously lucking out and should STFU. Channel 4 did a documentary at one point, Prince Charles’s Other Mistress. It used to be on Amazon and occasionally shows up on YouTube, but gets pulled pretty fast.
She was Dale, Lady Tryon, Australian, married to one of Charles’s best friends. The media always talked about his two close married woman ‘friends.’ One would have been suspicious, but having two married mistresses was just hiding his shitshow in plain sight.
After his marriage, she became friends with Diana and Diana wore the dresses she designed. But she gave interviews about Charles and got frozen out. While in rehab for her drinking, she had a hard to explain fall out a window and broke her back. Her husband left her, she was involuntary committed to a mental institution. She ended up dying of septicemia after traveling to India for homeopathic treatment for her cancer, thinking that this would impress Charles.
C3: garbage human who is getting better than he deserves from Netflix.
Oh wow, I didn’t know that about her fall and how she died. It just shows how much they’ve been able to sweep under the rug.
I recall in literature I read that both Dale and Camilla allegedly helped Charles find suitable future wives. Both were at his wedding to Diana. But Camilla was the one who hosted Diana and Charles at her home with APB.
I watched that and that documentary was devastating. With interviews with Kanga herself. Charles did not even bother to come to the phone to speak to her and she supposedly was the “only woman who understood her.” I read that Charles would pay visits to Dale while her husband was away. He also was involved with her when Camilla was going through two pregnancies (conceiving and carrying two Parker Bowles children) and could not be the Mistress. Kanga took over then.
understood him.
King Charles, your subjects are facing crushing energy prices and many won’t be able to heat their homes this winter. They can’t afford food for their families and the economic recession is crushing employment. What will you do?
“Well, I have this brilliant five-point plan to challenge a Netflix show…”
Why waste capital on a fictional retelling of one’s story?
Lol my Sunday morning brain anagrammed “War of the Waleses” into “War of the Weasels”.
Oh god. As others have said the first 3 seasons were pretty sympathetic to Charles and the rest of the royals but they can only stretch that so far especially once Diana enters the scene (and that is what happened). And even then I still feel like the show is still pretty fair to the people it’s covering and blames the institution/power structure of the monarchy for turning the royals into well, who they are instead of the individuals themselves choosing to act like that.
Charles may “crib” from the novel Jane Eyre, and cast Camilla as Jane, himself as Mr Rochester and Diana as Mrs Rochester. I can see him actually doing this.
Oh man, KC3’s reign is going to be SOOOO MESSY. He is so thin-skinned and petty that he will be chasing his tail with media spin all the time. So much for “Never Complain, Never Explain”.
There have been so many documentaries, programs, films, and dramas about the Royal Family over the years, what’s another show? I know he won’t, but… he could just ignore the whole thing.
Who is advising these people? Good grief, you want to take some of the teeth out of The Crown, you’ve gotta low-key ignore it. Treat it like it’s fiction, not journalism. It’s not a documentary, Charles! There’s a happy medium between “never complain, never explain” and “run around like a chicken with your head cut off.”
My money is on Will giving his dad cover by throwing his mother under the bus…again. He seems willing to betray Diana, in order to protect the monarchy. William has no soul. Apparently Diana means very little to him, no matter how he cynically fakes his children’s affection for “Granny Diana”.
Diana retaliates from the grave by taking more and more of the Spencer genes from him, leaving him looking like a damn homely Windsor.
I can’t bear him. He has grown into an appallingly lazy, entitled human.
Will may now promote more happy families photos with Kate, dad,and sternum with perhaps a blended family photo with the wails,c and d and Camilla and her children and family and maybe will can talk up how misunderstood Camilla is. I can see this happening
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Charles officially became the King of England on September 8, 2022. Thirty-one days later, I have yet to witness his proposals that assure his subjects that they will experience improved quality of life under his reign. All conversations relating to Charles are about titles, editing photography, blocking his son’s memoir, and preparing for the official crowning ceremony. The depth of his self-centeredness is tragic and, in my opinion, tarnishes his mother’s legacy.
Those who lived the experience from the courtship to the engagement to the wedding and the tragic ending know the Crown used an excellent brush on that firm (I have a difficult time labeling them as a family).
Charles is a lifelong whiner. He’s lived an overprivileged life, and at 73, he’s kicking and screaming like a toddler. I suggest the King calms down and avoid a possible health crisis. He cannot force the world to love Camilla or forget how he treated Princess Diana; he is the King of England, not the King of the Universe.
The UK population and number of subscribers are not a threat to Netflix.
From the Daily Beast article linked in the post:
“A friend of Charles described the drama to the Telegraph as “exploitative” and said Netflix would have “no qualms about mangling people’s reputations,” even the late queen’s. “What people forget is that there are real human beings and real lives at the heart of this,” the source said.”
It’s a shame that Charles and the Royal Family forgot that there are and were real human beings and real lives at the heart of all their colonialism when they were busy exploiting and stripping foreign nations of all their wealth and all the while branding these self-same nations with a reputation of stupid savages.
Tampon and Camilla mangled their own reputations.
And yeah, spare me the “real lives” nonsense. @Guildish is so right: We’re talking about people who have lived large off the suffering and exploitation of other people.
Speaking of mistresses, I wonder if they’re going to include KC3’s long-term affair with Lady Dale Tryon (“Kanga”)? That seems to have been whitewashed out of his life. Anything he does to clap back on The Crown will clap back on him. The receipts are all out there so let it go Chuck, you’re the king now…the emperor wears no clothes.
Streisand Effect all day every day for petty C-Rex and his merry band of fools! One would almost think that he was deliberately trying to sabotage his own “reign”! He’s only been king for a month and its been a flaming fiasco! His lack of leadership skills is truly astounding. He can’t bully Netflix nor the Sussexes and in reality, they’re the least of his worries…
IKR? He’s the fecking king now yet he’s behaving like a petty despot. His reign is going to be a gong show, mark my words.
It’s a good thing for him monarchs are distinguished by their regnal numbers now rather than by nicknames, otherwise history might have remembered him as Charles the Whiny.
Well, I’m just going to say it. If the King of England can’t get help for his rosacea (assuming that’s the issue), then what hope do the rest of us have? His skin issues have seriously ramped up in the last few years.
Charles is best served dissolving Parliment and calling an election, even if it’s just to save the country from having sewage in its waters.
The first King Charles who dissolved parliament had his head chopped off. So I wouldn’t suggest he does that even for a good cause or something.
Part of me thinks he’s doing this to try to get more sympathetic press for himself. The only thing we’ve seen so far about this king is his need to exert control, whether it’s the press, his son, or tv shows that portray him and how terrible and weak a person he is. This is ridiculous. As these clowns like to say about the Sussexes, if it’s so bad, he can sue. As for these sycophants in the press, do they actually hear themselves? Trying to get people to like this man or feel sorry for him? They sound just as desperate as Chuck.
Charles will absolutely start his woe is me campaign again to combat The Crown, but he’s such a self-centered, out of touch whiner that any efforts he makes will undoubtedly make things ten times worse. He can try all he wants, but at the end of the day Charles is so completely up his own a*s and focused only on himself at all times that he can’t help but reveal himself to be the entitled whiny ghoul that he is.
I really want to know why the press can go after Charles but not Will. I could not believe that well written, well thought out piece is from the same author who blasts Harry and Meghan on the reg for freaking nothing. I just don’t get it.
Has the new King done anything else lately besides prepare glitzy events and clap back? Anyone know if he is doing anything good for Britain?
Kinsey Schofield is the “reporter” who photoshopped her face over Meghan’s in the engagement photo. She’s a mess.
As far as Chuckle’s and his PR battle against Netflix, it’s obvious he’s only truly concerned about perceptions in the UK, but since he’s in bed with the same people who made his life miserable, I truly hope he gets ALL the attention he deserves. As with everything else to do with that show and that family, the SHOW is EXTREMELY generous to them and tries to be FAIR (fairer than they deserve). Throwing a NOW three year tantrum about the show will only make him look weak and desperate. I look forward to the meltdown…LOL.
Does he allow these leaks to gage public reactions? He’s not going to do anything but stir the nest if he tries to strong arm Netflix about this series. At any rate the timing of this season couldn’t be better.
I hope he and Camilla remember how it feels to be under such scrutiny, like H& M..
C3PO’d
How I hope that Harry’s book hits the shelf a week after The Crown premieres. That would be a win for Netflix and his publisher. I love the idea of them spinning out trying to do damage control.