We’ve already had more than a month of screaming, crying and throwing up from the Windsors when it comes to The Crown. The fifth season of the Netflix drama premieres on November 9th, two weeks away. Y’all better prepare yourselves for two more weeks of royal tantrums, that’s all I’ll say. What’s funny is that it’s clearly just King Charles who is beside himself with anxiety. But he knows it’s not like he can come out and say “they’re going to be mean to me” and “how dare they dramatize the awful way I treated Diana!” So the king has given little “tasks” to his friends, associates and political allies to carry out. Over the weekend, an unnamed family friend ran to the Times to cry about how the series is “vicious” and how Harry should be ashamed of himself:
The close friend of the royal family, who attended the Queen’s committal in Windsor, strongly criticised Netflix, which has resisted calls for a fictional disclaimer before each episode.
The friend said: “I’m horrified by what is going on with Netflix and how they are vilifying the royal family. It is vicious. It’s as if they’re trying to destroy the royal family.”
Asked what Queen Elizabeth would have made of the plot lines, the friend said: “It would have destroyed her.” She added that it put the Duke of Sussex “in the most invidious position”, given his lucrative deal with the streaming giant. “If I had my family being vilified like that, I wouldn’t take a penny [from Netflix].”
Charles is setting himself up for such awful stories once the series comes out. Because he’s raised such a fuss, everyone will feel the need to “fact check” what’s in The Crown with the actual historical receipts, and all of that will A) look worse for Charles and B) extend The Crown’s power and narrative and C) make Charles look “vicious” and sadistic. Speaking of sadism, one of Princess Diana’s old friends got a call from the new king:
Diana’s close friend Simone Simmons told The Sun that the hit drama risked forcing Princes William and Harry to recall “the most painful time” of their lives.
She said: “These are cruel, sadistic and wicked people to recreate these moments. They are the lowest of the low. They are rewriting history as they go along and that’s what makes me very angry. Netflix are deliberately reviving the most painful time in the boys’ lives. It’s forcing them to relive the pain, agony, and psychological torment they suffered when their mother died. I think it’s disgusting and sick. Why are they setting out to upset William and Harry? The makers of this programme do not care about the heir to the throne and everything he has been through. Why do these callous, insensitive people feel the need to recreate that horrible day? They are going out of their way to hurt the Royal Family.”
Considering Simone Simmons was such a good friend to Diana, you’d think she would spare a thought for her friend Diana, who was treated so abominably by the Windsors? All Diana wanted was to survive all of the pain and torment that family put her through, and to tell her story. As for Diana’s adult sons… William has clearly said on the record that he thinks his mother was paranoid and delusional. William and Charles want to solely own Diana’s life and memory for their own narratives… all while Harry, his mother’s son, has shown the world how little has changed in the House of Windsor.
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@Kaiser, are we doing a watch party?
Please do, as many of us have no subscription to Netflix (even if we had, likely we’ll get blackouts when the Crown is airing in the UK, wanna bet?)
Easy enough to get around any UK black out. All you need to do is get a VPN and set your location to a city/country outside of the UK.
I can’t wait for the fact checking posts for each episode.
Those boys are 38 and 40 and should have had access to the best therapists in the world to process the emotional trauma so that a show dramatizing the terrible things done to their mother – a figure known and beloved world wide- wouldn’t destroy them. Or you know, they could have been raised to never say her name or talk about her and to act as though it never happened. Yes that seems healthier. 🙄
Simone teamed up to write a book with Seward. Enough said . Charles is using the same tactics he did during his marriage to Diana having friends to go to the media. Netflix has nothing to do with the bad behavior of some of royal family
They do damage all by themselvesm
The British Royal Family are destroying themselves.
@USAVGJOE, it continues to astound me every day that all of the people screeching this argument don’t realize that if a soap opera on Netflix can “destroy” or “bring down” their entire monarchy, they have far bigger problems than the tv show. How do they not see how pathetic this line of thinking makes the monarchy look??
Simone is a sellout. She wrote a whole book about Diana that told private stuff. She made a lot of money off of Diana . The only 2 that havent sold her out are Harry and Hasnat.
She added that it put the Duke of Sussex “in the most invidious position”, given his lucrative deal with the streaming giant. “If I had my family being vilified like that, I wouldn’t take a penny [from Netflix].”
Cool. So does that mean the Windsors are going to stop entertaining the same Rota scum who made Meghan suicidal with their constant attacks? No more palace luncheons to celebrate them? No more hiring them as coms directors for the palace offices?
But Simone. You and Ingrid wrote an unflattering book about diana including gossip. You are not one to go In for hand wringing.
Thats prolly why charlieDaTurd recruited her.
But it is ok to vilify Diana in Charles world
Even his buddy Joan rivers was on Larry king trashing the deceased Diana. No word of protest from the Windsor clan. Charles has no shame.
I don’t see why, he probably won’t be watching it, all the fuss is to get Harry to break his contract with Netflix. People are not stupid; they will know that the crown is drama but mostly factual.
Diana was not around to refute what Simone said. John Kennedy Jr and Diana are deceased so Simone claims they had a one night stand which is extremely doubtful Judi imo a fantasy to try to sell her book. Diana s real friends would never have sold her out that way
Word Judi does not belong there
Does that mean that Charles and the rest are going to “stop entertaining” the same British press scum that’s hounded Harry’s wife and children? But, @Hailey, Charles not only entertains the rota scum, he hires them to be on his team. So, short answer: No. Sometimes I think these people don’t even listen to themselves blather because all these same statements could, and should, have been said about Charles when it came to his younger son and D-I-Law. Also, notice how (after abusing Harry for years) they are using his name to defend Charles’ portrayal in Netflix’s The Crown. This chick threw everything here, the dead queen, the tender feelings of William and Harry. The saga continues.
What the royal family does is WORSE than what Netflix does. Netflix made an entertaining drama that nobody took for a documentary. But the royal family allows so-called “journalists” to defame Meghan and Harry under the guise of actual news. That is much, much worse. That family is truly scum.
So Charles pals did not upset will and Harry when they badmouthed Diana. And after she died. Charles is such a hypocrite
Let me fix this sentence for them: “If I had my family being vilified like that, I wouldn’t”…work with the racist misogynist tabloids that attacked a young couple and two children. It’s always PH who should make concessions and never the rest so let them get over it. And, when Meghan was attacked, she was told basically to suck it up and be less, be seen less and get over it. Good enough advice for the rest since that’s what they CLAIM they do when they get bad press.
All this is going to do and has done is make people tune in and go “alright lets just see what the fuss is about then” which is the exact opposite of what they want. If they’re that angry, then a simple briefing to the papers about how upset they are would have sent a message without giving Netflix a bunch of free publicity.
And when/if they win a bunch of Emmys, the stories could be “The Crown wins 10 Emmys despite the heavy protests of the royal family” which will make them look even worse and just show they truly have no power and all that tantrum throwing resulted in nothing.
Charles deeds are catching up with him through Netflix. The only thing I see changing in this drama is the intimate conversations but what he did will be dramatized and a new generation of viewers will get to see how very awful this man is and how very awful this family is. Imagine being as low down dirty as he was to the mother of his children and not wanting others to know how nasty he is/was. Here’s is to hoping other films with backing will spill more secrets re this man and that monarchy. Many of us know this whole institution is nothing more than a house of cards. Long May they continue to be shamed.
Tinfoil tiara theory: The Crown has been more than fair to the Windsors, both-sidesing all over the place. I expect this season to be the same. The palace is stirring up all of this uproar so that when it actually drops, people will say “What was all the fuss about? That was no big deal.” Everyone has pretty much heard some version of the Charles/Camilla/Diana story by now so I don’t see anything “shocking” being revealed. Plus I saw on SM that most of the actors and the producers are MBEs etc, so we know those folks are sycophants. They are not going to “turn” on the palace.
KCIII, PoW and the courtiers aren’t that smart though.
I know, right? Some people invent theories which give the royal family much more credit and cunning than they’d EVER displayed. Sure, the BM may write contradicting stories when their initial lies don’t come to fruition but that doesn’t make either side clever. It just means that the British media lies and is shamelessly inconsistent and that their royal family is, as ever, dull but cruel.
That’s not enough for Charles et al. They want nothing less than their own PR that they’ve shilled for years.
They’re doing exactly what they did with the Oprah interview. Stoke up interest in it so that more people want to watch to see the fuss. And it backfired there the way it will backfire here.
Hm. State- or Crown-run media. Where only what the Crown likes gets produced and/or aired. Charles is acting like a dick—dictator, trying to control what artists and the arts do. That should be scaring people. It’s not funny, it’s fascism. It’s heading there.
@MSIAM, I have a similar tinfoil theory about Harry’s memoir, when it comes out and doesn’t SLAM the royals, they will write articles about how he capitulated and took out all the nasty things they were going to include but was too scared he would get sued or some such nonsense. It’s so transparent.
@SAS- I think you’re right that CIII will try to take credit if Harry’s book isn’t all scorched earth like they all predicted for months now. Therefore, I so so so so hope that now, with TQ dead, Harry DOES go back and make some re-writes, to call out people he might not have before (cough Peggy cough Waity cough Chuckie cough bride of Chuckie), and to be at lot less diplomatic than he would have been while TQ was alive.
Just enough so CIII can’t go around smugly bragging about how he “told Harry he better take it down a notch or ELSE”
Carry on with that symbiotic relationship with the rubbish British media and they’ll destroy themselves. No need for Netflix. 3..2…1
The royal “family” isn’t one. They’re a self-sabotaging toxic, vicious, dishonest organisation masquerading as a white, wholesome family. They sacrifice their young, strike dubious deals, exempt themselves from freedom of information act and fraternize with paedophiles. Good luck.
Maybe Charles is going to use the Sussexes’ Netflix deal as his excuse for not inviting them to the coronation and/or denying Archie and Lili their titles.
Am I joking? With this petty-ass, narcissistic man, I don’t even know.
I think Harry and Meghan would appreciate that if he did. Give them an excuse to dump that family completely.
Right?!? I am sure they would love that above all things at this point. This is the most annoying game of chicken ever.
Very true. They may well even be OK with that hypothetical excuse, because it would pretty much vindicate them. It’s something they could point to and be like, “see, we told you that both the family and the institution are petty, unreasonable, and needlessly cruel!”
@Miranda, I also find that a lot of the time I’m commenting on BRF-related stories, I also do not know for sure whether or not I’m joking because they are all so completely batsh!t
Prince Harry owes this family nothing they did this to his mother and his wife, he begged them to stop the harassment of his wife they remained silent and continue to this day to brief against his family. Just look back at the queens mourning period and funeral it was disgusting how the Sussex’s were vilified by these people. Prince Harry knows exactly what they planned for his wife, history was repeating itself, that is why they fled. The fact that Charles is worried about his own actions and those of his mistress says a lot. They were/are viscous and guilty they don’t care what they did, they just don’t want the public to know and view it played out on screen.
Seriously. Won’t speak up
About them spreading lies about Meghan, but God-forbid a tv show create a fact-based fictionalized account of real events most of the world remembers, and Charles is mounting his high horse and preparing to go to war. Meghan said so—they’ll protect some over inane issues but never her over slanderous ones.
^100% @Cessily. So well put!
Charles: “I don’t need Netflix’s pennies because I get sacks of cash from the Saudis”
How can Netflix be both “recreating these moments” and “rewriting history”?
Almost makes it seem CIII is handing out talking points with no basis in anything trying to play all sides, to see which “they are being mean to me” narrative will stick.
If you didn’t want history to remember you as a jerky schmuck, Chuck, maybe you shouldn’t have been a jerky schmuck.
Where was all this concern from Charles and his friends when Harry and Meghan were smeared in the press on a daily basis? These are the same people who criticise and tell Harry to shut and move on when he talks about his mother and the impact her death had on him.
Charles obviously hates history he can’t control. It’s his misfortune he didn’t become King in the middle ages. He would have been happier then.
Absolutely! He and Will both would have been much happier!
With this family I would bet money there is more than one Charles or William in that family tree. Diana had a wonderful rebellious free streak in her that she passed to Harry. Who in her family tree passed that trait onto her, then Harry?
Not necessarily “rebellious” more “decent human being who cares about others and wants to real connections, helping when they can, enjoying worthwhile things in life that money can’t buy”
The RF has been on a selfsabotage spiral since Elisabeth forced her sister to marry someone she didn’t love. Their pr nonsense, and incompetent aides do the rest.
Margaret was not forced to marry Snowdon. She thought Townsend was pining for her and would never marry. She got a call from Townsend telling her he was getting married again to a young woman younger than Margaret. It was a happy marriage.margaret then focused on marrying Snowdon it was a rebound. I do not get why she thought he would never marry again
@Tessa: She thought he would never re-marry because (imo) she thought she was all that and a bag of chips! Townsend was supposed to go to his grave thinking, if I cannot have Margaret, I don’t want NOBODY. Typical Windsor mindset.
Townsend was a creepy groomer frankly, despite how portrayals clean him up (hanging around her knowing she had a crush on him from the time she was 13, going on rides with her and requesting adjacent bedrooms as a “chaperon” from the time she was 17). I don’t blame Margaret for not having much judgment about him.
“The makers of this programme do not care about the heir to the throne” That’s exactly right, Simone. No one outside of England does. Like it or not, the world does not revolve around the BRF.
Simone’s faux concern for Bulliam and Harry, all while holding Harry and only Harry responsible for Netflix, their business decisions, and his, is ludicrous. Of course it’s painful for Diana’s sons to be reminded of the time leading up to her death, but it’s not like they haven’t been and aren’t constantly reminded from every quarter. The Crown isn’t the only production to revisit her tragic story, FFS. And, to review, the content that they are so desperate to squelch is based on the TRUTH. Harry knows much/most of that truth, and it’s not Netflix who inflicted abuse and pain on his mother.
Not to mention that we heard what Harry thinks about The Crown directly from Harry’s own mouth when James Corden asked him about it, so it’s insanely disingenuous for these people to act as if he needs them to speak out for him.
Diana had many “friends” but not that many real friends. So many jumped on the chuck wagon after she was gone and tried their hardest to throw dirt on her name.
The faux concern for William and Harry is ridiculous. Harry is the only Windsor that looks at The Crown for what it is and understands that their family is famous if it’s not the Crown it’s going to be another show or movie. Netflix promotion budget for The Crown is zero they get so much free promo from the brits.
It’s the old saying about rearranging the chairs on the Titanic. The RF is sinking under the weight of its irrelevance – suppressing The Crown won’t change that.
Agreed. And the more we see phrases such as “destroy the Royal Family” in print, the more likely and imminent that outcome. The actual television programme has very little to do with it compared to damage done by all the attention and outcries.
Oh please! Why do these folks act like there haven’t been a half dozen Diana movies that showed all of this before? Why all the hand-wringing? This is just another back-door take down of Harry & Meghan. There was NONE of this faux outrage when The Queen was released, and that was not a good look for the RF AND it showed/re-enacted the accident. Enough already.
The difference between “The Queen,” the multitudinous movies about Diana, the documentaries about the Windsors, and this latest season of “The Crown” is that now QE2 is dead and any rein she had on the A**hole King is gone.
While QE2 may have given her allies in the Rota and her friends some talking points, I don’t believe she talked half as much with the press (either through her courtiers or directly) as her profoundly damaged eldest son. This constant drumbeat of “The Crown is fake, The Crown is libellous, The Crown is damaging to the royal family” comes from Chucky Boy and Queen Side Piece. QE2 was better at letting criticism slide off her back.
Poor A**hole King. He’ll never have the popularity of his mother, his ex-wife, or his second son. Hell, he’ll never have the popularity of his first son. A more loving man would resign himself to his lack of popularity and let his children shine. A more self-confident man would ignore all the criticism. A more resilient man would truly embrace “never complain, never explain.” Instead, we have this whiny, petulant, sad sack of a king. Ugh.
At this point, I’m just playing episodes of the Crown to support the series. Every bit of played episode is adding minutes in total views, I believe, which is what streaming services look at. And I’m recommending the series to others as well.
I’m happy this season of the Crown is coming out soon.
It focuses their evil attention away from M&H for a bit.
It also makes it harder for them to play sweet and innocent, and will likely have more people realize that M&H were wronged as well.
Hilarious! I’m gonna take a page out of your book and do the same!
@FlowerFlake….I’ve been doing the EXACT same strategy for the last week….I’m surprised Netflix hasn’t sent me an email saying….”Is your television STUCK?” 😅😡
Well done 😀
THAT’s the big fear. People will realize history repeated itself with Meghan and Harry. Even with this so-called “friend” of Diana, it’s the same tactic used for the Markles.
These people need to get a f*cking grip. They act like the royal family will be restrained Clockwork Orange style and made to watch this season of the Crown while their reactions are live-streamed for the world to see.
IT’S. A. TV. SHOW. That’s it. And it’s a Netflix show at that, which means the whole season will drop at once, there will be (at MOST) a week or two of hot takes, think pieces, and memes, and then down it goes in the collective memory hole. They are not required to watch it! All they had to do was shut up and ride it out, but Charles is a narcissistic man-baby so instead we get this absolutely unhinged attack. The Streisand effect has absolutely NOTHING on the Windsor effect. YOU’RE MAKING IT WORSE, DUMB DUMBS.
Yeah, that’s what I don’t get. If I worked at the palace I would advise nothing but dignified silence from the entire BRF re: The Crown. The problem, as I see it, is that Charles has never thought of Diana as anything but an irritant. I watched an old interview with Charles from the 90s this weekend (DO NOT RECOMMEND!) wherein he attempted to explain his point of view on the whole War of the Wales’, but he doesn’t interview well. He came off as stodgy, mean, and eccentric, playing the victim when he’s in fact the King. Andrew’s infamous interview was a disaster because he’s so arrogant and foolish, but Charles is a disaster because he’s peculiar. Not quirky, but deeply strange. I don’t know what they’re going to do about C&C, but I would keep them both as quiet and unseen as possible. His mother did very little and accomplished almost nothing in my eyes, but C&C are far too self-centered to keep this train on the tracks. Tough times ahead for the House of Windsor, and The Crown is just the tip of the iceberg. Glad I’m alive to see this play out.
@Sue I’m lmfao at “DO NOT RECOMMEND” 🤣
In addition he has the most repulsive voice, and he actually SOUNDS arrogant too.
Charles honestly believes he is the most unfortunate person who has ever been or ever will be. Self-pity is his primary emotion. This fuels everything else about him: Jealousy, greed, overall cruelty.
I think I understand why the British media is going so hard – it’s more to do with anger that an American media company gets to tell this story and they don’t. The Royal Family would never allow their own media or a homegrown production company to be so…real about them. They have to know though that this is generating millions in free publicity. I mean the tea is that Netflix has barely done promotion for this new season. They don’t need to.
they’re public figures, some of the people in this series are some of the more important women from the 20th century, for different reasons (QEII and Diana) – of course their stories are going to be told over and over again and they may not like some of the interpretations of their lives. That’s part of the deal, right? that’s the price they pay for being ordained by god to be monarch etc.
Even if there was proof that Netflix or the creators of “The Crown” wanted to “destroy the royal family,” so what? Why should that matter?
First of all, ha.
Second of all, if this millennia-old institution (specifically the current head of it) is so weak that it’s vulnerable to destruction from a TV show, then the problem is the pre-existing weakness, not the attempts for piece of entertainment to undermine it.
I wish. I think they’re gonna “both sides” when one of the sides (Diana) was an abuse victim, and the other side were her abusers.
I seriously doubt there is functioning human being on this planet that is upset at the thought of Netflix vilifying & destroying the monarchy.
They’re doing a damned good job of destroying themselves, every day.
This is the same grifter that claims she and Di were BFFs and says Di visits her, most recently to warn William that Meghan is isolating Harry. She could only let him know through a paid interview from The Sun, of course, but you know how it is
That is so gross. And to take money from The Sun especially.
C-III is giving big “it’s me, hi, I’m the problem, it’s me” energy right now.
Charlthree: “It’s not FAIR, why do people have to be so MEAN TO ME about ALL THE MEAN STUFF I DID. Why can’t they be NICE about the fact that I was a complete tw-t to an innocent woman who I should not have married in the first place??? It’s not RIGHT.”
If I was Harry, or anyone, and I didn’t want to watch a dramatization of a painful period that will hit closer to the truth than they think….I wouldn’t watch it.
So I don’t think Harry is going to be torn apart emotionally because if he had a chance of feeling that way, he won’t watch it. He lived it.
Unlike Pegs and Chuckles the Turd who will be watching it, paysing, replaying and taking notes so they can leak their faux outrage.
I know some people don’t believe in astrology but Charles is a Scorpio. I am married to Scorpio. They are the Kings and Queens of revenge. They are also the Kings and Queens of self-sabotage. Charles is so hell-bent on stopping Netflix that he can’t see that he is only drawing more attention to the show. Trust me, I have to talk my husband out of plotting revenge on someone who didn’t tell him hello from five years ago. Scorpios also are extremely jealous hence Charles’ issues and Diana and Harry. Sometimes, they hate to see anyone else shine. Luckily, my husband is not jealous of my success but he can be jealous of others success.
It is a travesty that no one in the press is pointing out the fact that the royal family had NOTHING but praise for this series during its first two seasons, when Claire Foy was portraying a young, beautiful, steely-eyed Queen who hadn’t yet put a foot wrong. Do not let these people rewrite history in this way, where they get to bleat endlessly about how this is just such a terrible thing to do the royal family, blah blah blah.
Charles’ staff are a bunch of old fogies who don’t read online comments, but on the off chance they do: ya’ll need to shut the f-ck up, like yesterday. Your boy knows what he did. He can either own it full-throatedly, and make no apologies, or he can humble himself and mumble “mistakes were made” and slink off into the shadows.
What he CANNOT do is throw an extended tantrum abt how history is just so unkind to him. History is going to be unkind to all of them, bc ALL of them acted deplorably, and that’s the facts. Charles, the Queen, and everyone else in that family know what they did. They have the right to not want to apologize or think you did anything wrong. What they do NOT have the right to do is tell the rest of us how to feel about those things.
So f-ck you, and up yours.