Prince Harry worries that one of William’s children will be treated as ‘the spare’

Bryony Gordon and Prince Harry have been friends for years. Gordon is a journalist, but she’s more of an advocate-journalist, and she specializes in reporting and interviews around mental health. Gordon and Harry did work on Heads Together, and Gordon has been one of the few British journalists to talk in real terms about who Meghan and Harry really are and what they’re like. Well, Gordon was invited to Montecito to interview Harry for the Telegraph. It’s an excellent piece and I would recommend reading it in full. Harry really opens up to her again, and this interview was conducted just a day or two before Spare was released (and the British media was leaking everything they could about it).

He’s worried about the other Windsor spares: “If I see wrongdoing and a pattern of behaviour that is harming people, I will do everything I can to try and change it.” He worries about the other “spares” in the family. “As I know full well, within my family, if it’s not us,” and at this he points at his chest, “it’s going to be someone else. And though William and I have talked about it once or twice, and he has made it very clear to me that his kids are not my responsibility, I still feel a responsibility knowing that out of those three children, at least one will end up like me, the spare. And that hurts, that worries me.”

He knows any chance of reconciliation is unlikely at the moment. “What I’ve realised is that you don’t make any friends, especially within your family, because everyone has learned to accept that trauma [as] part of life. How dare you, as an individual, talk about it, because that makes us all feel really uncomfortable? So right, you may not like me in the moment, but maybe you’ll thank me in five or 10 years time.”

He’s not playing the victim: “Lots of people go through lots of s–t. It’s interesting because so many of those moments have made me the man I am today. Would I encourage Archie to stick his head inside a carcass? Probably not. But people who’ve experienced trauma deal with it in different ways. I think when it comes to me and William, the fascinating part is that we both experienced a similar traumatic experience. He wanted to talk about it when [we were] younger, which built up a little bit of resentment. It wasn’t anything against him, I just didn’t want to talk about it. And then as we got older, I started to go slightly off the rails, and deal with it through drinking and drugs, and he went completely silent and completely shut down. And then my life started to alter and completely change, because I wanted, or had no other choice, than to confront the very thing that I had been running from, or scared of, for all those years.”

Therapy & psychedelics: “After taking ayahuasca with the proper people. I suddenly realised – wow! – it’s not about the crying. She [Diana] wants me to be happy. So this weight off my chest was not the need to cry, it was the acceptance and realisation that she has gone, but that she wants me to be happy and that she’s very much present in my life. And now, as two brothers, if one of you goes through that experience and the other one doesn’t, it naturally creates a further divide between you. Which is really sad. But as much as William was the first person to even suggest therapy, I just wish that he would be able to feel the same benefits of that as opposed to believing what he doesn’t need to.” (Harry claims that William thinks therapy has made him delusional.)

After all the books written about him, he has no apologies about telling his story himself: “But I always say: ‘What’s the difference between airing lies about your family through the British press, or airing truth through a book?’ In my case, this is all contained in one place where I hold myself entirely accountable and responsible for what I am saying.

Criticizing the institution: “I don’t see why it’s so ingrained [in society] that whatever happens in your family, you should never talk about it. That no matter what’s happened, I can’t do this. But they [the Royal family] can? Because of who they are and what they represent? The way I was brought up is that, as a member of the Royal family, you lead by example. So you shouldn’t be able to use that privilege to get away with more things. No institution is immune to criticism and scrutiny, and if only 10 per cent of the scrutiny that was put on me and M was put on this institution, we wouldn’t be in this mess right now….It’s so dirty. It’s so dark. And it will continue and it will carry on and I look forward to the day when we are no longer part of it, but I worry about who’s next.”

Family secrets: He says he knows that the press “have got a s–t-tonne of dirt about my family. I know they have, and they sweep it under the carpet for juicy stories about someone else.” He tells me about some of the darkest moments in 2019. “I was coming back to Frogmore after Archie was born, and I would walk into the nursery and there she [Meghan] was in floods of tears, tears dripping on Archie while she was breast-feeding him. That was a breaking point for me. And she is someone who doesn’t read the stories. She would be dead if she was reading the stories.”

Saving the Windsors from themselves: “This is not about trying to collapse the monarchy, this is about trying to save them from themselves. And I know that I will get crucified by numerous people for saying that.”

His mission: “I feel like this is my life’s mission, to right the wrongs of the very thing that drove us out. Because it took my mum, it took Caroline Flack, who was my girlfriend, and it nearly took my wife. And if that isn’t a good enough reason to use the pain and turn it into purpose, I don’t know what it is.”

He has enough for another book: He tells me that the first draft was 800 pages, whereas the finished manuscript is just over 400. “It could have been two books, put it that way.”

He left out a lot of sh-t with William & Charles: “And there were other bits that I shared with JR, that I said: ‘Look, I’m telling you this for context but there’s absolutely no way I’m putting it in there.’… There are some things that have happened, especially between me and my brother, and to some extent between me and my father, that I just don’t want the world to know. Because I don’t think they would ever forgive me. Now you could argue that some of the stuff I’ve put in there, well, they will never forgive me anyway. But the way I see it is, I’m willing to forgive you for everything you’ve done, and I wish you’d actually sat down with me, properly, and instead of saying I’m delusional and paranoid, actually sit down and have a proper conversation about this, because what I’d really like is some accountability. And an apology to my wife.”

[From The Telegraph]

“No institution is immune to criticism and scrutiny, and if only 10 percent of the scrutiny that was put on me and M was put on this institution, we wouldn’t be in this mess right now…” Oof. That and “he knows that the press ‘have got a s–t-tonne of dirt about my family.’” That’s something that I’ve found slightly interesting although not that surprising – in the immediate aftermath of Spare, there is no big, British figure – a historian or journalist – saying “you know what, we actually should scrutinize the monarchy more.” No one is doing that because these royal reindeer games are a billion-dollar industry. I wish some of them would realize what Omid Scobie has realized: that there’s a billion-dollar industry in covering the monarchy’s death rattle, in really examining the institutional dysfunction and corruption.

As for Harry’s concerns about the next generation’s spares – Princess Charlotte and Prince Louis – it’s almost too late, because the narratives have already started to take hold. George is already separated from his siblings for special privileges and attention, all while his siblings are being cast as his foils.

Also: I really want Harry to write a second memoir. DO IT!!

Photos courtesy of Avalon Red, Instagram.

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161 Responses to “Prince Harry worries that one of William’s children will be treated as ‘the spare’”

  1. Seaflower says:

    Just finished it. Willie and Kate do not come out of this looking good as much as H tries to give them the benefit of the doubt.

    • Tarzana says:

      I can see Harry reconciling with William because that’s exactly what Diana would’ve wanted. But only under certain terms, i.e. “Sincere apology to my wife and then we move forward charting a different relationship.” Things will never ever be the same between them because Harry has grown and knows what it’s like to live on his own terms without asking permission to grow and shave his beard, etc.

      • Tessa says:

        Diana would have been horrified IMO how William turned out. Diana would never have allowed William to drive Harry out. And she would have sided with Harry. I think she would have found Kate very snobbish and mean girl.

      • Lisa says:

        It’s a complete fantasy that they will ever reconcile. I know from my own and the issues with the royals are so much more complicated. He’ll realize that, sadly, when he’s a bit older. Apart from that, I don’t see why the charade of a royal family should continue though.

      • CJT says:

        The problem with a possible meeting of the minds, a reconciliation between William and Harry is that oft times, the historical heavy, the one who is accustomed to being the “dominant one”, has no real interest in a new dynamic, stripped of the old luggage. They liked it just fine as it had been previously. They don’t want an equal footing, they like punching down. I’m not sure William has it in him at this point, Lord only knows when he did have it in him, because he’s been THE HEIR and treated as such for too long to really see Harry as just his brother, as a person who wants a life of his own. He sees Harry as the permanent wingman, the second fiddle/third wheel, punching bag, organ donor etc. However, Harry has no desire to see what kind of trouble the idle hands of a spare can get in to, much like Andrew. Harry doesn’t just want to be on the BRF “dole”, hanging by purse strings. William really couldn’t care less, he just wants Harry where he wants Harry to be, which is at his beck and call, and to keep his Katie Waity albatross, happy and distracted, please!

    • Kate’s Jeggings says:

      I did find it interesting that Haz attributed 🥚 earning the “workshy Will” reputation in the papers to Charles explicitly directing Incandescent & Buttons not to do a lot of engagements so as not to draw focus from Camziller and the Tampon of Wales.

  2. Lady Digby says:

    If they continue trashing H and M then the second book revealing ALL the tea is already written and no, I don’t think Pearl clutchers are going to support Peggy cheating on a pregnant spouse or will that be excused because Kate is soo cold?? Fed up with millions of articles trashing the US based couple whilst no one is properly scrutinizing the UK RF!

    • Carrot says:

      Here for it!

      • Moxylady says:

        What’s this about Caroline flack?

      • Jaded says:

        @Moxylady – Caroline Flack was Harry’s girlfriend for a while back in the day. She was a TV presenter on Love Island and X-Factor. She allegedly assaulted her then boyfriend (she struck him when he was asleep because she thought he was cheating on her). Her boyfriend didn’t want her to be persecuted and said she was “not in a good place” mentally or emotionally at the time, but charges were laid and the tabloids went after her with a vengeance. She committed suicide by hanging herself in February 2020. A very sad story. She should have been given proper therapy, not dragged through criminal procedures and attacks by the gutter media.

      • Laura D says:

        Let’s also have it noted that 4Takes Wooton deleted all his horrible Tweets about her. There are still people who believe he was one of the main instigators on both social media and in print. No matter how much he wants people to forget there’s always someone on Twitter who reminds him about his bullying and frequently ask is he trying to drive Meghan to the same sad end as Caroline.

        #Sadlittleman.

    • Belspethen says:

      She took her own life after Crown prosecutors charged her with assault – supposedly the impending press coverage (which was already awful) was a huge factor in her decision.

      Her mother is challenging the Met decision to charge her at all.

      https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/feb/14/police-to-look-again-at-decision-to-charge-caroline-flack-with-assault

  3. Snuffles says:

    Harry mentioning the 400 pages that he cut out because it would be too damaging was a warning shot. Keep fucking around and they will find out in the paperback edition.

    They’ve got a minimum of 1 year to get their shit together and call off the dogs.

    • Seaflower says:

      Plus he references that he’s kept all his texts w Willie

    • Midnight@theOasis says:

      I howled laughing when I read that part. Shots fired. Harry put them on notice: leave us alone or else. I thought he took it easy on them in Spare. Hopefully they get the message he’s not playing around and back off or else Spare Volume 2 will tell it all.

      • ThatsNotOkay says:

        Release the texts!

        And, yeah, if you’re worried about texts or conversations being revealed/shared that make you look bad, maybe you shouldn’t have sent/said them in the first place. Because Harry is signing his name to all of it, and only cited, signed sources will be believed.

    • Curmudgeon says:

      They won’t call the off the dogs, the dogs don’t fear the royals – they have too much sh-t on them as Harry detailed in his book. He also said Charles loathes when the tabloids hate him but LOVES when they praise him (like an addiction). This family, to their own detriment, will do everything in their power to try and “Queen Elizabeth” their way out of this storm (meaning stick their head in the sand and pretend nothing bad is happening).

      I will say, Harry doing an interview in the Telegraph is a deliberate attempt to communicate specifically to his family so maybe he is firing a warning shot – this is one of the tabloids that is laid out every morning for these people. The fact that they put so much stock in what these trash papers say about them (and not Harry’s book or interviews or other media) shows how deep the rot is in this institution.

    • DouchesOfCambridge says:

      Yes Harry’s threat fck around and you’ll see is perfectly said. It is also clear to me that at this point, the next spare is little Louis.

      • Yonati says:

        Yup, Louis is already getting typed.

      • K says:

        The only way for Charlotte and Louis to avoid being treated as the spares is to abolish the monarchy. And that’s what Harry does not want. So it’s an untenable position that he’s taking.

      • Bad Janet says:

        Not really, though. Harry is asking them to not treat the heir apparent like they’re extra special as they treat the other children like they don’t matter. The royals don’t have to abolish the monarchy to stop treating one child like they’re more important than the rest.

        The problem is that everyone seems to buy into the idea that Peg and Louis ARE special and extraordinary when they’re not. I won’t speak ill of a child, but Bill is exceedingly ordinary, unspecial, and boring. Being spoiled risks ruining any chance a person has of becoming interesting or remarkable.

      • Bad Janet says:

        * George. I always get the boy’s names mixed up.

      • Jenna says:

        Yes, poor Louis.
        Charlotte will be the next “Princess Royale.” The hardest working one in all of the monarchy.

        If the monarchy lasts that long.

    • Nicki says:

      @snuffles: 100 percent.

    • Athena says:

      I also think he mentioned it as insurance. He’s letting them know that someone has the full story on paper. If something untimely were to happen to Harry the other 400 pages would be printed.

      • Rnot says:

        My thoughts exactly. Not just that but his mention that he’d told the ghostwriter some even worse stories. This is serious life-insurance. Damn. If the royals have any sense at all they better be scrambling to make peace.

    • Ummmm says:

      Lol yes. Nothing says let’s reconcile and you better say sorry or else I’ll release your deepest darkest secrets. Sure Harry…nothing says true apologize like blackmail.

      • HeatherC says:

        If their dealings had been clean and above board there would be nothing to apologize for and…..nothing to “blackmail” them with. This is FAFO. They were under the mistaken impression that they could continue to brief against Harry and his family with no pushback.

      • K says:

        Saying “I will release more private info about you so you better do what I want you to do” is the very thing they did to him, so… I can’t respect this.

      • aquarius64 says:

        The BRF is acting like the Mafia, so Harry is using terms they understand. Don’t think for one minute Andrew is still under the bosom of the Windsors out of the goodness of Charles’ heart. Noncy Drew knows we’re the bodies are buried.

      • Julia K says:

        Ordinarily I would agree with you, @K, but these 400 pages are life insurance. As disagreeable as this is, the RF becoming complacent now that the book is out, is a real possibility. Keeping them a little off guard is not a bad thing.

      • Tootsie says:

        I don’t think he’s blackmailing them. That’s just people putting their interpretation and their own perspectives onto Harry. Harry has said he wants reconciliation AND accountability. He’s protected them up to this point while giving enough info to the general public so they understand. This isn’t the behavior of a man who wants to burn it all down. People who support him seem to believe he should burn it all down and they project it onto Harry. I think that if Harry was to release any more info, it won’t be William’s deepest, darkest secrets. I think he would just release EXACTLY all the wretched things they did to Meghan and him over the years. Revealing those things will feel unforgivable to Charles and William because they have done awful things to Meghan, especially William.

        It doesn’t seem like he’s ever threatened them to apologize or else he’ll ruin them. He is saying that he will not allow this situation to continue without him saying something and doing something to stop it. Harry wants them at the least to cease the media attack, even if they never apologize. And when the BRF refuses to do so, the only move is to call attention to the behavior so that they will stop. There’s no way around it.

  4. Steph says:

    I’m astounded by Harry’s willingness to forgive and to try to rebuild the relationships. Couldn’t be me. Also, if there are even worse things that happened between them than being assaulted, I’m genuinely scared of Harry being in William’s presence.

    • Laura D says:

      @Steph – Initially I was surprised at how easy he was on William and Charles but, I “think” he did it for his children. He probably wants to lead by example. When Archie and Lili are at an age to judge things for themselves they will see that their father was leaving a door open for reconciliation and forgiveness.

    • Lolo86lf says:

      I just don’t see Harry and Meghan ever being fully accepted back into the royal family as it was originally intended. Meghan is still biracial, Harry still refuses to be the royal punching bag, Kate is still secretly jealous of Meghan’s charm, Cowzilla is still a horrible home wrecking stepmother and the British tabloids will continue to vilify Harry and Meghan for profit.

      • Robert Phillips says:

        Harry doesn’t want back into the “Royal Family”. Harry wants back into his family. He understands there should be a difference. They can’t seperate the two things.

    • Snuffles says:

      I think it’s more nuanced than that. They’re his family, and I can understand his unwillingness to completely shut the door. He has only one parent left and I’m sure Harry frequently thinks of Diana and how she would want him and William to reconcile.

      That said, Harry also had ZERO problem drawing a hard boundary and will not tolerate anymore fuckery from them. His biggest Achilles heel was the Queen and now she’s gone. Neither Charles or William have even remotely the kind of sway she did on Harry.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        I also thinks that he wants to be happy – and at some point that means letting go of the anger and bitterness. At least it was for me – I’ve been through some trauma and there came a point where I just had to let go of the anger and bitterness over all the shit that had happened because I didn’t want to be this angry, bitter person.

        Harry has put the ball in his father and brother’s court. They can take it or leave it. If they genuinely apologize and listen then he’ll have a relationship with them, if they don’t then they won’t see him and his family again. He comes across as a man who is at peace with himself.

      • Midnight@theOasis says:

        I’m amazed that Harry had no qualms about publishing Spare while the Queen was alive. That tells me he was through with the bull$hit and was willing to let the chips fall where they may. Harry is on record saying yes he would like to reconcile, but first there has to be accountability and an apology to Meghan.

      • Carrot says:

        Adding to these excellent posts, we can be angry over a thing and still be nostalgic and wanting a tangential thing. More than one thing can be true and it doesn’t negate the validity of our feelings when we have good memories along with bad ones.

      • Tessa says:

        William was showing signs of having some issues before Diana died, like excluding her from attending a picnic at Eton. He is a lot worse now and establishment.

    • Jais says:

      Well, he says he’d be willing to reconcile, but first they have to apologize to his wife. Lol! Love that part. The royals have to apologize to Meghan first and you know he wants that to be a real and true apology. So how badly does Charles want Harry at the coronation? Enough to apologize to Meghan?

      • Julia K says:

        Any “apology ” would be the standard “we’re sorry you felt offended”.

      • Jais says:

        Like Harry, I’m a Virgo so I’m thinking he has a long list of items and some very specific things he needs said in this apology. This man is not looking for any old standard apology for his wife.

      • Lady D says:

        But that’s what they will print, Jais. A bog standard apology from the RF and then the screaming headlines for days about H & M not accepting the royal apology. It’s just one more stick to beat Harry and Meghan with.

    • Amy Bee says:

      He said in the docuseries that he accepts that his family may never apologize and agree to be accountable. Harry saying that reconciliation can’t take place without those conditions means he knows that reconciliation will never happen. I think he’s OK with that.

    • Jay says:

      I think he was quite kind to his family members for a few reasons, but I think the biggest one is that Harry’s writing from a better place. He’s an ocean away, his family is thriving, and he’s worked hard with professional support to get a healthy perspective.

      I think he now has the distance to feel something like pity for his family, stuck in the grind of feeding each other to the press and unable or unwilling to leave the vicious cycle. That’s my take, anyway.

    • TheVolvesSeidr says:

      I’m learning through my ongoing healing process that, while my parents hurt me causing major damage, they were similarly hurt by their parents, and so on. This is what generational trauma is. Harry has stopped it with his little family. He’s healing and the growth allows him to be forgiving from a place with appropriate boundaries. He’s clearly further along his healing process than I am, lol. But he is such an excellent voice and example for ending generational trauma. I’m 58 years old, and reading his book has opened doors emotionally for me and have helped me to further the healing in myself. I actually had “ah ha” moments and have done some serious work while reading his book. He’s correct when he says he’s exactly where he’s supposed to be doing what he’s supposed to do. I think his book while help countless humans to effect positive change and healing in their own lives.

      • Mustlovedogs says:

        @VolvesSeidr what a beautiful post. (And love your name- (fellow would be volva/norn here) You are so right and you put it with the eloquence of true experience and understanding. I haven’t started reading yet, but I too am expecting some things to come up, as well as the opportunity to let go of some more of my own deep family trauma and grow in love and resilience. I am a yoga teacher and it very often strikes me that Hand M espouse and embody many of the principles of yogic philosophy in their way of living, forgiving, loving, learning, and searching for meaning. Big hugs to you and thank you for your touching wise words.

    • DouchesOfCambridge says:

      The reason for all this truth conversation is a last resort to try to get the press to abuse of him and his family. The reason why they abuse them is because his family is feeding the press. So the threat is “leave me out of it or I will out your shit and as you can see, i dont give a flying fck anymore.” William and kate are shitting in their pants fearing that he will out their fake relationship and charles is shitting in his pants with witch camilla a few months before his coronation.

    • Krista says:

      I just wish Harry would come to the realization that as much as he may still love his family, they do not love him. Not the same way, if at all. I know that’s got to hurt but I believe it to be true. These people do not know how to love properly. They do not know how to be a supportive, cohesive unit that stands up for each other and takes care of each other. I’m glad he has built a family of Meghan, the kids and the close friends he has. He will never be able to count on the family he was born into.

  5. HarryforLife says:

    I read this article in full and it was so reflective of the positive mental head space Harry is in. He’s actually living. And happy. That book… just finished (well Harry just finished reading it lol). It was soooo good… and as an aspiring writer, lover of all things literature bibliophile I’m a tough crowd usually. That one punches in the feels. Love that pic above with Bryony, you can see in the background a floor mat with what looks like a letter with a crown above it, lol, def projecting and prob NOT how Harry feels, but yeah, wipe the dirt off your feet on the monarchy! Lol

    • Midnight@the Oasis says:

      Byrony’s article on Substack has more detail than the edited Telegraph version.

      • Harper says:

        I second reading the Substack version. It feels like the whole interview transcribed.

        As for William telling Harry that his kids are not his responsibility, it strikes me that William will never be and never was open to taking instruction or advice from Harry. Be it his kids, his wife or his lawn, Harry should stay out of it. Of course, William is allowed to go berserk telling Harry how to live his life.

      • Jais says:

        Very true @harper. It just seems like that heir/ spare mentality. Why would the heir ever take advice form the spare? Maybe he did when they were younger but he seems fully in that mindset now.

    • TheOriginalMia says:

      It’s Harry & Meghan’s conjoined cypher.

  6. ROAA says:

    He should worry about paying for his children’s security instead of worrying about three spoiled children living off taxpayers’ money. They have the family, the institution and the British media all on their side.

    • HarryforLife says:

      @ROAA, but isn’t that the point maybe? As a Spare, he once “did too” and a look behind the curtain has shown that’s not what it was like. Those are still his nephew and niece…

      • Snuffles says:

        Well, unlike Willy, Harry cares about his niece and nephews. Louis is probably the most likely to get the Harry treatment. He was the one William didn’t really want/deem necessary as he already had his heir and spare.

      • Brassy Rebel says:

        Charlotte and Louis are living very privileged lives, but so was Harry. Then we learned how differently he was treated from his brother who had far more privilege. And we can already see that George is given special attention in public. Imagine what happens in private. Then there’s whatever they’ve witnessed between their parents. None of these children should be envied no matter how spoiled they are. Harry is not wrong to worry. No one knows better than him what lies ahead.

      • Miranda says:

        @Snuffles – I think Louis will get the “Harry treatment” from William, but Charlotte might not be any better off. As she grows up and the BM starts taking notice of her in earnest, Kate definitely seems the type to be jealous of her own daughter, if she’s getting more attention. I hope someone manages to slip both kids Uncle Harry’s number.

      • Jais says:

        Yeah, considering the misogyny in the press, I don’t know that charlotte’s experience will be any better than her little brother’s. Honestly feel for all three of those kids.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ Miranda, unfortunately I think that you are accurate in regards to Charlotte being in the cross hairs of her own mother. Kate cannot stand any type of competition, including her own daughter.

        W&K are already treating George differently as is has been abundantly clear for years. Not only in public but it was glaringly obvious in their Christmas card from their trip to Turkey.

      • Sarge says:

        No one worries about one thing. It’s healthy and moral he did

    • ArtHistorian says:

      He worries because he’s a decent person.

    • Tan says:

      He left England for his family. He worries and takes care of his children fine. Ppl can did multiple things at once

    • Sarah Nguyen says:

      Agree with you. He’s spending emotional resources worrying about people that do not worry about him. He also wishes for a warm relationship with his brother and father. But the truth is, he never actually had one so he’s wishing for a relationships that never actually existed. I hope comes to accept that there will never be any relationship. I hope he’s at peace with that and simply forgets about them.

      • Jaded says:

        I would worry about innocent little kids who happen to be my nephews and niece -Harry is their uncle. William’s anger issues and his and Kate’s rocky marriage can and will have a troubling effect those kids.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Wow. I worry about my nieces & nephews, and I think at this point in their lives they’re not giving me a second thought. Doesn’t matter, I love them anyway.

    • TheVolvesSeidr says:

      He can do both.

    • HeatherC says:

      For now. But they’re already starting to separate C and L from G. George is the heir, he’s thoughtful. Charlotte is a confident spitfire…how long until that turns into “diva.” Louis is “Cheeky” how long until that changes to bratty, deliquent, etc? When George needs protection, that’s when. Or worse, when their parents (esp William) need a distraction from their own actions.

  7. Duch says:

    In addition to the article she’s also posted the actual q and a with Harry. That’s worth a read, too.

  8. Brassy Rebel says:

    I thought this was the best interview of all. Probably that is because he was so comfortable with her and spoke to her as a friend, not a journalist. I watched the ITV interview last night on CBS, and, while it was good, Harry was not nearly as open as he was with Bryony Gordon. I even bookmarked it to share with friends and family. Plus, I just seem to absorb information better visually, and there was so much here!

  9. Roseberry says:

    Sarah Vine’s takeaway from this interview is to be catty about the fact that they’ve got a monogrammed doormat!! The fact that it was probably a wedding present and brought over when they finally cleared out Frogmore and it’s at the guest cottage. She also refers to Byrony as a female friend (a fellow journalist!), these people, they’ve got nothing, just licking the bottom of the barrel…..

  10. Becks1 says:

    I think the question of the spare for the Wales children is interesting bc how will it play out? Will having a different succession dynamic change the overall dynamics? (Ie having Charlotte as the spare may change things, instead of two boys). will Charlotte be treated with kid gloves as the princess, or will be female count against her in the tabloids? Who will be the one to be sacrificed to cover for George’s mistakes? Because it has to be one of them.

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      Harry’s words were “at least one of them”, leaving open the possibility they will both be stigmatized.

    • Kittenmom says:

      I’m betting on the kid glove Princess Royal treatment. They’re already setting her up as an innocent target of the evil, jealous Meghan. 🙄

      • Brassy Rebel says:

        Don’t underestimate the royal misogyny taking over at some point. Just because they’ve weaponized her against Meghan doesn’t mean she won’t get abused in the future. If she shows any spunk and spirit at all, she’ll be in for a nasty time.

      • Duo says:

        The “Poor Charlotte” narrative was to spite Meghan, but the media otherwise already started to plant the seed that Charlotte is too headstrong and independent for their liking.

    • notasugarhere says:

      IMO both of the younger children will be used-and-abused as spares – by the families (Windsor and Middleton) and the tabloids. William will go against George, that’s a given. William and George will both go against Louis, esp because William never wanted Child #3. George will go against both Charlotte and Louis, anyone who competes for attention with him. Kate and Mummy Carol(E) will do everything to control a female child who is 1) in competition with Kate for attention and 2) who may or may not accept the W&K stereotype of ‘little lady, little princess’ they’ve foisted on her since she was born.

      Add in the extremist Kate-and-Mary stans who are fetishshising Christian and Charlotte marrying as if it was the 16th century. None of that is going to help either younger child have a normal life in the face of all that SM fanfiction. Since the day she was born, those weird stans have been pushing the narrative that CC is better than her older brother simply because she’s female. For years they’ve pushed the idea George should take himself out of the line of succession and hand it all to CC. No doubt the courtiers will make George aware of all that talk, which will only encourage George to go against both his siblings.

      • Tessa says:

        Some fans want Charlotte to be just like the queen and hope she gets to be monarch.

      • Snuffles says:

        Probably a decade from now, maybe less, one or all of those Cambridge kids will get their hands on Uncle Harry’s book no matter how hard The Firm will try to keep them from reading it. They will get the full story of Harry leaving and decide for themselves if they want to keep the status quo or work towards something different. Uncle Harry is leaving the blueprint.

      • The Old Chick says:

        Oh lord, I did not know there were extreme Kate /Mary fans? Mary and Kate aren’t close? And setting up children, especially a 17 yr old and a 7 yr old is gross. God knows where they hang out? Royal dish or somewhere like that?

      • Louisa says:

        Who’s Mary?

    • SURE says:

      As A&L grow up it will be more difficult to keep them out of the public eye thereby making them the likelier scapegoats for G and even C&L. I fear W’s children will be protected at the expense of H’s children. The BM media will be salivating at the prospect of writing endless articles comparing the “perfect” British three with their “imperfect” American cousins. British disdain for yanks and the country’s need to exert their perceived sense of superiority will mean these two sets of cousins will be used as weapons in a one-sided culture war.

      • MsIam says:

        Why will it be more difficult to keep Archie and Lili out of the public eye? Unless the kids go into show business or some other public facing endeavor, they should live pretty much under the radar, like most celebrity children. I think the Cambridge kids will be the ones exposed as more time goes by.

    • Carrot says:

      Access or lack of isn’t what it was when Harry was a child. Harry and Meghan and Eugenie and Jack are only a mobile call/text or email away. At the point where any of the kids, George included, have awareness of a need, they can reach out and they won’t be alone. There’s not a thing W or K or anyone else can do about that other than actually locking the kids away

    • The Recluse says:

      Being the only daughter may spare Charlotte some of the ‘spare’ treatment, but she will still be treated as less than her older brother by all the establishment fixated people working with and around the RF. Louis is the one who we should be truly afraid for, although being the top child won’t be a picnic for George either.
      It’s all just so toxic.

  11. Emily says:

    William is supposed to be a champion for mental health but considers Harry delusional? Hmmm.

    The person to break patterns in a family is often scapegoated. Harry is right that ten years from now they’ll thank him. And if not, Charlotte and Louis might.

    • Sass says:

      It’s true. After I had kids, I broke the cycle. I did not speak to several relatives for many years. I put up boundaries and they didn’t like it. I chose to put my children first instead of worrying about upsetting my dad or his wife or my mom or MIL or my rich grandpa, who told me if I wanted him in my life I had to accept his third wife as family when all she had ever done was treat HIS ONLY CHILD AND GRANDKIDS AS THE HELP. I told him “write me out of the will.” So he did. He has been sick for years. For my mom, I called him Father’s Day 2020. So awkward. I told my mom I tried. He didn’t want to talk. So never again. My one brother and I have repaired our relationship- the other, I actually don’t know what happened. He just will not talk to me and I’m tired of reaching out so I stopped. I now have two kind, funny, bright, free spirited and gifted teens who like being around their parents, who do well in school, who get high praise from teachers for being articulate, polite, and kind, and one teacher even recently told me witnessing their own bond as siblings warms her heart. They understand bodily autonomy and have zero memories of being physically hurt by us because we have never hit them etc. I’m proud that I was able to raise my kids in a stable, loving, fun environment with clear expectations and consistency. Things that even with all the money my family had, they couldn’t buy those aspects. I knew I had to cut them off for my kids. Many of those relationships are repaired because the people realized they’d never see us or hear from us if they didn’t change for the better. I don’t regret it. My mother and I always had a difficult relationship but she did the work (so did I) and now we do girls’ weekends and talk on the phone every week for hours until our voices are hoarse and our phones are dying. She’s a wonderful grandmother. Probably my kids’ favorite grandparent.

      • Pix says:

        @sass – thank you for sharing your story. I’m happy that you can look back and know you made the right choices for yourself and children. No amount of a money is worth the abuse people will inflict while trying to exert control.

  12. Amy Bee says:

    Louis is already being set up to be the spare by the press. William and Kate were told that he had to be on the Christmas walk.

    • Lady D says:

      Was it the press or Charles who ordered the Wales to bring him, I wonder? Either way, they have to jump when ordered. And it’s over something as personal as their children. Ha ha

  13. Kel says:

    You can really tell that Harry’s been through therapy and done the work on himself. It’s pretty amazing to witnesss. He has every right to be bitter, hateful , unforgiving but he’s not. He’s clear in his message, he has boundaries set and he’s still compassionate. That takes something bigger than yourself to get to that point esp when he’s still getting constant vitriol from the media and his family.

    You can tell he’s really in a good place.

    As outsiders we may want to not see it Harry’s way but for Harry and Meghan they are doing what’s best for them, their family and their mental health when the whole world is watching and judging.. Definitely inspiring!! I pray they continue to get clarity and peace as the navigate dealing with the RF and BM

  14. Talie says:

    In this case, destiny is destiny and there’s no way out. The narratives are set and William and Kate seem to listen to the tabloids regarding the kids. They wanted them at the funeral, they were there. They wanted Louis at the Sandringham walk, he was there.

    I think poor Louis is getting the Prince Harry treatment already. George is being separated from both siblings and seen as stoic, serious. Charlotte is the wild card. I feel William will exert pressure to protect her, but again, they have set a tone that they won’t go up against the tabloids. So even that is in question.

  15. TheOriginalMia says:

    I found William’s defensiveness about Harry’s concern for the spares concerning. If anyone knows how differently he was treated compared to Harry, he should want differently for Charlotte & Louis. Instead, William is ignoring the issue. There’s already proof Charlotte and Louis are excluded from things. Charlotte is already tasked with supporting George, as seen at the funeral. The spare dynamic is already in play.

    • ABritGuest says:

      I think it’s admirable that Harry wants to break generational cycles in his family but I agree with William that his kids are William’s responsibility alone. The cycle is already being repeated. William broke the promise not to operate like his father’s office & that has already resulted in pap shots of the family like the Flybe stunt, the press demanding when the Cambridge kids are seen eg for the queen’s funeral, Louis during the Christmas walk.

      The press are already putting out there that 4 year old Louis will replace Harry as the jester & that ‘feisty’ Charlotte will be a good lil spare to quiet & serious George.

      The only thing I hope for is that Harry & others’ lawsuits against the tabloids re phone hacking actually goes somewhere & leads to real press reform.

    • ThatsNotOkay says:

      William cannot believe that Harry was mistreated or that anything is wrong with dynamic, because to do so would be to admit he was complicit in it and that it is toxic and harmful. He believes he deserves his stolen wealth and favoritism. He’d have to be introspective to consider that he does not, and it would break his mind and soul if he acknowledged the lopsidedness and his own unworthiness. He lives in a fantasy of paranoid delusion and willful ignorance. No, acknowledging that his whole life is a lie is off the table. Thus, he Cannot and Willnot acknowledge that his spare children are being treated as such and that undue favoritism exists among them and is harming them..

    • Carrot says:

      Sometimes what you get is what you get. It’s not hard for me to see William not caring about his family dynamic and repeating damaging roles. I see it in my relatives. They prefer to be right instead of being happy

      • Carrot says:

        Adding, they, my relations, also prefer being wealthy. Money is a big part of decision-making for them, holding out for a payout/reward that probably isn’t happening, not how they think it will happen

  16. Gina2 says:

    I’m afraid Harry is too optimistic thinking that he is able to change this symbiosis between Royal Family and British Press, to break it. To clean Augean stables, so to speak. His Family (Royal one) too complicit, too cruel, mediocre and jealous.

    • L4Frimaire says:

      Agree. I feel like, based on what I’m seeing, is the royals won’t really learn anything other than to manage some fake reconciliation then leak about it. Harry may worry about his brother’s kids but they don’t want any advice from him, especially given they’ve not even seen his kids. I really liked the book, loved his perspective, but I really don’t need to hear more about his family and their dysfunction. We see it in real time and I’m tired of them. They won’t change and don’t want to, so whatever he writes going forward, hope he focuses on other things.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Gina2, the one thing that Harry accomplished is to out the bm and how they operate. I don’t know how big of an impact this makes on those in the UK, but it certainly is being seen by the rest of the world. It will make a difference in how they look at the stories that are being fed to the US media. Rupert Murdoch may see more people using critical thinking when reading this stuff. This is where I’m going to be paying attention. The lies and disinformation goes beyond H&M.

  17. notasugarhere says:

    ‘But as much as William was the first person to even suggest therapy, I just wish that he would be able to feel the same benefits of that as opposed to believing what he doesn’t need to.’

    Whenever Harry mentions this, I’m convinced he’s being too nice again. IMO William likely screamed at Harry that if he thought his life was so f* king bad, go get some damn therapy (you broken person, etc.). Because it is clear both W&K think anyone who seeks therapy or who has mental health issues is broken, less than them, etc.

    • Lady D says:

      William’s contempt for mental therapy is starting to ooze out his pores. He won’t be able to hide it much longer at all. I’m sure we can expect some form of idiotic statement out of him soon, a la “very much not a racist family.”

  18. Jan says:

    Audio sales of this book may break the G record also, some on Twitter are raving about Harry’s voice.

    • lunchcoma says:

      I have the book on audio, and yes, he’s an extremely good narrator. And I listen to a lot of audiobooks, so I have a pretty wide range for comparison.

      I’d be interested to see if he does some documentary voiceovers in the future. I think he’d be good at it.

      • Feeshalori says:

        I said in the other thread that I never get audiobooks, but after hearing a sample of Harry’s voice, I made an exception and I’m getting the audiobook. He’d be great at voiceover work.

      • The Old Chick says:

        I have been a regular audiobook person from the days of books on tape and I adore his narration. Mostly because it’s like a personal conversation more than anything. He laughs, he sings badly, he’s so engaging! I’m only half way through but love it

    • Jais says:

      I’m wondering if he’ll be nominated for a Grammy for his audiobook narration.

      • Athena says:

        That would something if Harry gets a Grammy. People on YouTube are speculating about SPARE the movie. Or Cinderfella, I’m guessing that would be the story of a prince who is treated badly by his family until he meets a commoner and falls in love, she kisses him and turns him into a well adjusted human being.

  19. Jess says:

    Louis will definitely get the Harry treatment if he doesn’t bow and scrape to George. Charlotte is in a unique position because she outranks her younger brother as the first spare but the dynamics will be different. I imagine whoever George marries will clash with Charlotte initially and it may cause conflict with issues of rank especially if she isn’t a born princess.

  20. February Pisces says:

    Willie has benefited from ‘heir supremacy’ his whole life and absolutely believes in it. He doesn’t want to challenge or change it. Neither does Kate. Prey for Charlotte and Louis, if their own parents won’t support them, who will….

    • BothSidesNow says:

      @ February Pisces, you are spot on with your analogy. Willie loves the fact that he can use Harry, and others but especially Meghan, to chew up and spit out as he pleases. Willie has come to love and admire his power to treat people in this manner. No one is safe from his proverbial “heir supremacy”, including his father. Any one who thinks differently is delusional with all of its trappings as well.

      • Ciotog says:

        Being treated as better than Harry, as special because he’s the heir, is likely the closest thing William got to being loved.

  21. Kingston says:

    I’m still waiting for my copy of Spare to arrive (& in the meantime I listen to/read any excerpts posted by SSquadies……yeah I’m like that: I bite & chew chocolate, only savoring the last bits;……I sometimes read the final page of a bk before the beginning;…….but I definitely won’t do that wth Spare 😉

    So anyhoooo……I wanted to ask anyone who has read/listened to Spare: Is there any point in the book where Bully expresses any interest in Harry’s family: Meghan? Archie? Lili?….ya know: Bully’s NIECE & NEPHEW.

    I get the distinct impression tht Bully has never asked after A & L. But I am perfectly willing to be corrected.

    While on the other hand, there’s H expending his energy trying to make the BRF a better place for Bully’s children’s to growing up in.

  22. Sindy says:

    “George is already separated from his siblings for special privileges and attention” this is why Kate wanted a party for the page boys. George is the heir so she wanted a special party for him without even considering a party for the flower girls too (or even including them) the thought probably didn’t even cross her mind!

    • BothSidesNow says:

      @ Sindy, this bit of news makes me sick. If Kate is hell bent on every event being catered to the fact that George is the heir apparent, it is certainly a life filled with resentment and anger for George to face. All due to his own Mothers desperate “need” to make her what she isn’t and never will be, upper class/royal material.

      • Sindy says:

        Yeah it makes me sick too. But if Will is off pruning rose bushes on the regular she knows it’s only a matter of time until she’s replaced, so her only claim to fame now is George. Sad but true.

  23. AlpineWitch says:

    “I don’t see why it’s so ingrained [in society] that whatever happens in your family, you should never talk about it.”

    THIS!! I’ve always got the same cr@p too!! If there’s abuse and other issues in a family, it needs to be talked about, at all levels.

    I’m so happy he made the point to defend himself from the smears accusing him of airing the BRF’s laundry in public.

    • Carrot says:

      @AlpineWitch , I went the other way but was my choice to be silent. Mostly. Some things no, because how to respond to the cousin who said, Our parents said you became a porn star drug addict. Oh wow. Nope. Scientist. But they’re not mutually exclusive

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Carrot, porn star drug addict is how a scientist is described? I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. I can’t even imagine.

        I was the one in the family who got therapy and talk about blow back? I didn’t see my family for 2 years after some of the things they said. I think that helped me. My sin, evidently, was telling a psychologist about the family. The only thing I worried about was thinking my family would try to get me committed. My psychologist assured me that wouldn’t happen, but if it did, I was to just call him. He would take care of it. That’s how crazy it got and the type of pressure I was under because they wanted me to stop therapy.

        Families . . . sigh.

      • AlpineWitch says:

        Carrot, porn star drug addict?? Good grief!!

        I was silent for many years too (my father was a physical and domestic abuser since I was a toddler) but it took me almost 30 years to get into therapy due to a suicide attempt. It took me 10 more years and 2 more suicide attempts and at that point I started to speak out publicly too, which alienated me from the rest of the relatives, excluding a few exceptions. I will never regret that moment though, it felt like opening a dam. Big hugs x

      • Carrot says:

        @Saucy&Sassy @AlpineWItch big BIG hugs right back!

        So grateful you’re here. SO proud and full of emotion to get to know you even a little in this important way. Stay.

        BRAVA you amazing, amazing people! More big hugs!

  24. susan says:

    I love that Harry’s done ayahuasca. it makes perfect sense. as a fellow veteran of an ayahuasca journey, there is nothing that opens up your mind quite like it does. and changes your life.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      susan, I’m not familiar with this at all. If you don’t mind explaining it a little, I would appreciate it, but I also respect that you might not want to.

      • Rnot says:

        I haven’t taken it but I’m interested. It’s a South American herbal brew that makes you hallucinate. In the right context it can be the equivalent of anesthetic for psychic surgery. They used to use MDMA for psychotherapy back in the eighties. They called it Adam because it brought people to a very open innocent safe headspace and disarmed the psychological defense mechanisms that can block insight. It can be incredibly effective for some but you need to be certain that you’re getting the real substance and being supervised by a real expert.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Rnot, thank you. I can see where this would be a very effective therapuedic aid. I agree that you need to do your research to make sure you had an expert handling the drug. I did my research in order to find a psychologist who was a hypnotherapist, and I felt comfortable that he had a good reputation.

  25. Julia K says:

    Little Louis is acting out what he sees at home, disrespecting his mother, hand over her mouth to hush her, angry faces etc. I think of the 3 children he is the one most affected by his home life only because of what I have publicly witnessed. ( Jubilee). Hopefully Harry will be a source of support for him.

    • TheOriginalMia says:

      Louis will probably never reach out to Harry since he, of all the children, will be raised thinking Harry is out to destroy the family. Louis and Charlotte don’t know the fun-loving uncle that George remembered. They’ve grown up in the shadow of the feud.

    • Beverley says:

      I believe the Wales children have been taught and will continue to be told that their biracial Aunt Meghan and their cousins are beneath them, being of Black heritage and that Uncle Harry can’t be trusted because he betrayed the white royals by introducing Black blood into this family who claims to be “anointed by God.”

      I predict that the Wales children will grow up to be bigots, if they aren’t already. Children learn what they’re taught and it often takes experience, time, and honest self-awareness to reject childhood programming. The Wales kids will be a reflection of their parents.

  26. Emily_C says:

    People really need to read the original Substack interview. The Telegraph cut a lot. Here are a couple super important parts:

    “If my role is to stand up for my wife and other women, and to encourage other men to do the same, without them thinking that maybe that’s vulnerable or whatever, then I will continue the good fight and stand up for what I believe in, even more so now I have kids, because if you don’t lead by example, what is the point in living?”

    “The biggest driver for me is how the treatment of Meghan is affecting hundreds of millions of people around the world. Because they feel how she has been treated very personally. Especially women of colour, but also women in general.”

  27. Qtpi says:

    I dunno. Obviously nothing changed after they did the Oprah interview. I don’t think anything will change now. The royals are in an unholy alliance with the Rota. I don’t see how anything CAN change. Without the Rota releasing all the shit they have on everyone.

  28. QuiteContrary says:

    Harry is just a thoroughly decent guy. So of course he’d worry about his niece and nephews. But he’s also really savvy — making it clear that he has even more damaging stuff to reveal if his family doesn’t stop leaking against him and Meghan.
    He is just miles away from the “Prince Thicko” label the media slapped on him when he was younger.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      QuiteContrary, I keep thinking that no one knew who he was. Well, the exception is probably Eugenie. They created an idea of him and then sold it to the world until they believed it, too. Can you imagine how it must have felt to live that way?

      I’m still waiting on the book and audio. Delivery keeps getting moved into the future. I can’t wait to read this and listen to Harry tell his own story.

  29. Greeneyedgirl says:

    Unlike Willy, Harry actually loves his niece and nephews. He knows they are innocent and what is likely to await them. Louis I think will get the Harry treatment, he already is in many ways, and also Willy didn’t want a third child. Everyone says Louis is Kate’s favorite but it’s obvious she can’t and won’t protect him or any of her kids. I think William may actually exert some protection for Charlotte, and as of now Charlotte and George appear to be pretty close, so if that relationship holds true, I can see George protecting her or attempting to. Charlotte is the most at ease in public and is often seen telling George when to sit or stand, now, etc. Even if George and William try to protect her, the press will still scrutinize everything she does. I think Charlotte more than Louis will have the toughest time, just for being a girl and Diana’s granddaughter. I can also see Kate competing with her own daughter. I remember at the Queen’s funeral, Harry was sitting next to Charlotte and at one point they looked at each other and he gave her a semi smile that kinda read like “good luck kid, you’ll need it.” Like many here have said his nieces and nephews aren’t Harry’s responsibility and that’s 100% correct but I’m sure he (and Meghan) still think and worry about them from time to time. My sisters kids aren’t my responsibility either and we have a rocky relationship, but I still think about he and love my nephews and will always be here for them. I’m sure if on the rare chance any of Williams kids reach out to Harry in the future for help or whatnot he will be there for them, while still putting his own family first naturally

    • Sass says:

      This. Especially about the relationship with nieces and nephews. My late nana had a history of taking in children in our family who needed stability. She did it so the kids wouldn’t have to go into foster care. So they could be with family and still see their parents when the parents were back on their feet. I have inherited that willingness to take in my nieces (5 total; my son is the only living boy cousin and my daughter is the oldest of all 7 cousins combined) but thankfully that has not been necessary so far, although when I found out my husband’s sister had allowed her daughter to get so severely underweight that the ER called CPS I told him we needed to bring that child to our home. Ultimately it’s his sister so he decided against it. The deal was she and her husband would live with her in laws and thank god that grandma made sure the baby ate and went to the doctor regularly. Ultimately if a child is in a bad situation and any adult says “it’s not my business/responsibility”, I lose a lot of respect for that person. If I myself didn’t have my grandmother to step up and help me I would be long dead. People don’t think of the consequences of no action. Children are our most vulnerable demographic. Why don’t we do more to protect them?

  30. Kingston says:

    I strongly believe that the 3 Wales kids are already getting their respective treatment in that unholy hierarchy.

    We ALL know and can see the differentiation with George. And, of course, it’s also obvious tht the britshidtmedia hv already pigeon-holed Louis into his role as court jester & whipping boy.

    With Charlotte, I believe everyone is still working out how badly to treat her & salivating at all the possibilities.

    I also think folks like her mother & grandmother are prolly researching Anne’s history to see how she was treated in relation to Charles and are using tht as their blueprint.

    Within the Wales household, especially Adelaide cottage (kkkHate’s separation house) there are 4 bedrooms right? I’m sure they’re not all the same size. All these ancient cottages might look pretty on the outside but the inside appear to hv been built for dwarfs. I bet Louis’ sleeping quarters are no bigger than a cubbyhole.

  31. aquarius64 says:

    I fear the Wales kids will just be a continuation of the cycle of heir and spare(s). They will have no choice of life partners, especially George. If he falls in love with another man William will never approve it. Heirs have to be products of heterosexual marriages; no adoptive kids or children resulting from surrogacy will not do.

  32. crazyoldlady says:

    I’m sure they have room in Montecito for Charlotte and Luis – they will find their way there, I am sure!

  33. Myeh says:

    He’s still holding out hope that these selfish head up their own rear type of people with zero remorse and no sense of right from wrong will find the empathy and do the work to correct a grave injustice. I hope he realizes there is a slim to none chance of that ever happening. He should be happy with his wife and kids while holding all the reciepts on his a*****e family.

  34. Jay says:

    Something I think we should pay more attention to is how this dynamic with the Cambridge children plays out – we’ve already seen them “put out to work” and used as buffers for K and W.

    We should be concerned about history repeating itself and Charlotte or Louis being used as a scapegoat for the heir, but it’s also worth mentioning that this toxic dynamic hurts everybody involved, including the heir. Take a look at William and Charles, both spoiled, ill-tempered and childishly petty men who have been indulged at every level and separated from their siblings. Who could want that future for George?

  35. j.ferber says:

    More negative U.S. news stories about Spare: MSNBC (today’s edition): “Spare” Reveals a Racist, Unenlightened and Petty Prince Harry. The article is under the heading: Self-Destruct.

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      Shocker! NBC Universal, who wasn’t given an opportunity to interview Prince Harry for his book, is criticizing Prince Harry’s book. MSNBC is owned by NBC Universal. W&K’s new PR guy, Lee Thompson still has ties to NBC Universal. Today Show is owned by NBC Universal. I dropped the Today Show, disgusted at them having RR’s on the show.

  36. Sass says:

    The most ridiculous criticism I’ve seen about this book is “they’re doing it for the money.”

    1. DUH. They have to pay their bills somehow.
    2. Since his family cut them off and left them without security or a home.
    3. Especially since they now reside in the late stage capitalist hellscape that is the US.
    4. This is his life. It’s his choice to write his memoir and sell it if someone will buy it. If I could be strong enough to write mine and enough people would be interested enough to buy it damn well I would sell it.
    5. How many of these critics using this line would do their damn jobs for free? I love my job. I still gotta pay bills 🤷‍♀️

    • Well Wisher says:

      It is okay that there are around forty eight estimated publications about Harry.
      None of which enriched his bottom line.
      But one have a problem with him reclaiming his narrative, to do with as he chooses.
      Oh Please.

  37. Bad Janet says:

    I don’t know who needs to hear this, but it is okay to cut toxic people out of your life, even if they’re blood, and even if they’re the only blood you have left.

    You don’t owe it to them if they created you; raising you was their job. You don’t owe it to them if they’re your sibling; they are not entitled to your time, attention, or affection because you have shared trauma. If the relationship leaves you drained or afraid, it’s likely toxic.

    Every time I read one of these articles, I envision the end of the docu on Netflix, with Harry and Meghan riding off into the sunset in Monticeto, free at last. It is heartbreaking to cut off your family. It’s even more heartbreaking to have your family betray you, and to learn they have been betraying you since you were born. This family is about as toxic as it gets without actual crimes being committed within the home (putting Bill’s “incandescent rage” and fists of fury to the side for the moment). Harry will do well to stay away until the family figures out how to behave like their relationships to each other are as important as this illusion of the monarchy. Which will never happen. But your family as an adult is who you choose, and he chose well for himself.

    The royal family did give him one gift by treating him as the spare: he is the only person among the whole lot of them who seems to have any genuine character and any understanding of what happens in the real world. He saw past the monarchist view of themselves and realized it was a load of shite.

  38. Mel says:

    They will not reconcile, I think he should stop hoping for that. Maybe with Charles as he gets older but William? Never. I hope that he has no plans to go to that coronation. I think that he needs to take a break from them. Don’t see them, talk to or about them. He’ll get more perspective that way but also just keep your wife and children away from your family, they will not treat them well.

  39. MissBooBoo says:

    What is with some Royalists’ counter arguing our comments in here? … Don’t ya’ll have a Quora Hate Meeting to attend or something

  40. Well Wisher says:

    In this instance both brothers are correct.
    If need be Harry can support the future spare with time.
    He does not have to stop caring.

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