One of King Charles’s arguments for throwing himself a giant, excessive coronation party was that the Crown already owns all of the fancy stuff. The tiaras, crowns, gold carriages and gold thrones are already there, they just need to be dusted off. Weirdly, it looks like Charles is demanding all new stuff though. Last month, we learned that a whole new carriage was being made by the finest carriage-maker in England – Charles will get an enclosed coach, gold-plated, made by Jim Frecklington. Apparently, the new coach is “a gift and will cost nothing to the monarchy or the taxpayer.” Yeah. I’m sure. Meanwhile, this news came out over the weekend: Charles is getting two new thrones made for his Clowning.
King Charles III and Queen Consort Camilla will have two brand new thrones made for them to sit on during their coronation ceremony. In keeping with tradition, King Charles will sit in the historic Coronation Chair for the crowning and anointing section of the ceremony, understood to be the most sacred part of the coronation.
The Coronation Chair was commissioned by King Edward I in 1296, with Charles to be the 27th monarch to be crowned upon it. It is thought to be the oldest piece of furniture in the United Kingdom that is still used for its original purpose.
The Daily Mail report each monarch has their own unique Throne Chair for the enthronement part, as a Palace source confirmed: “There is always a new throne for a new monarch, and this will be no exception.”
During the enthronement, Charles’s new throne will be set upon a raised dais, with Camilla to be crowned alongside him, seated on a lower level. She will also have her own unique throne.
King Charles’s new throne is said to carry the Tudor Crown, in a contrast to the late Queen’s logo, which held the St Edward’s Crown.
As Queen Elizabeth’s throne maker, London firm White Allom and Company, is no longer in operation, it is thought that a team of specialist craftsmen trained through the Prince’s Foundation could be selected to make King Charles’s throne.
[From The Daily Mirror]
Again, why?? Charles’s argument for the new carriage was that the old one was uncomfortable and bumpy. What is Charles’s argument for two new f–king thrones? I’m positive there are dozens of “old” thrones he and Camilla could use. It’s obscene, to hear of all of the programs being cut in the UK and the increasingly threadbare British social safety net, and here’s Charles ordering brand new golden thrones for his Chubbly. Insane, tone-deaf and wasteful.
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Prince Charles reads the Queen’s speech next to her crown during the State Opening of Parliament, at the Palace of Westminster in London, Tuesday, May 10, 2022. Buckingham Palace said Queen Elizabeth II will not attend the opening of Parliament on Tuesday amid ongoing mobility issues.,Image: 690017715, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: WPA POOL, WPA+IPA+CPNA IN, Model Release: no, Credit line: Alastair Grant / Avalon
Prince Charles reads the Queen’s speech next to her crown during the State Opening of Parliament, at the Palace of Westminster in London, Tuesday, May 10, 2022. Buckingham Palace said Queen Elizabeth II will not attend the opening of Parliament on Tuesday amid ongoing mobility issues.,Image: 690017789, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: WPA POOL, WPA+IPA+CPNA IN, Model Release: no, Credit line: Alastair Grant / Avalon
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Britain’s King Charles III and Britain’s Camilla, Queen Consort listen as The Speaker of The Commons Lindsay Hoyle (unseen) speaks during the presentation of Addresses by both Houses of Parliament in Westminster Hall, inside the Palace of Westminster, central London on September 12, 2022, following the death of Queen Elizabeth II on September 8.,Image: 721936899, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: BEN STANSALL / Avalon
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Given how many people in the UK cannot afford food, heating or both: f these grifters and abolish the monarchy. They disgust me.
The British people don’t care about Charles and his golden thrones, they’re too busy writing and reading about the Prince and Princess in Montecito, California 🤢🤢
This. The monarchy can continue to fleece and be lazy af so long as they keep playing off of the racism of the people. They found the grifter formula – worked for the orange turd for a while too.
The BRF uses the same strategy as the Republicans when it comes to feeding the racism.
All I see are two boozy adulterers. spending money like crazy while all the nurses and doctors are on strike with no health care available for his subjects (slaves),
How out of touch Chucky and Cammy are.
The reason they are getting new thrones…
There are pics of Ghislaine Maxwell and pedo Kevin Spacey sitting on these current red/gold throne chairs. Can’t have that!
Not to mention Britain does not have the money, or money for the resources to defend their country and their peoples from an attack… due to the British government’s years of defending their military budget.
What if Pootin decided toattack the uk with something on the day of the chubbly considering he bought the election for the Conservative party? All that money that should’ve been for defense and the people wasted on KCIII the narc.
Eeeehhhh ghadddssss…..I just realized that Her Keen Laziness will be at the clown-a-thon as well. Get ready for an unprecedented disgusting display of awful, ridiculously expensive clothing all whilst wearing QEII’s jewels as well…..
She better start her Meghan mood board pronto as she only has 3 months to spend money on an assortment of clothes to make costume changes throughout the day as all eyes will be on her, of course. Her Keeney lazy ass has peasants who adore her that will want to see her.
I agree they should have made some changes in light of the cost of living crisis. We know the new Monarch usually gets a new throne, but is it really necessary?
They should make Camilla’s out of hay and wet Jeremy Clarkson articles.
If it ever gets to be Kate’s turn they can make hers out of the finest fillers.
And lets not forget,, Charlie chinless said there was no money for Megan and Harry’s security, or that of his grandson. Bloody old racist hypocrite
Maybe he needs new ones after Ghislaibe Maxwell and Kevin Spacey sat in the old ones?
Come on now, it’s not all bad news. Energy companies are being banned from forcing people to have prepay meters in their homes if they fall too behind on their energy payments (and therefore leaving them without gas/electricity if they don’t have the ££ to top up the meter). Clearly the nation should be splashing out on more fancy stuff for a guy who has access to millions and pays tax on nothing.
Go for it Chuckie. If the Brits don’t mind the cost who am I to complain. I do enjoy thé pomp and all the nonsense from ‘over ‘ear’. The only thing that bothers me is it should be your beautiful Diana. Oh, while I’ve got your attention, be nice to Harry, and Meghan but above all give your grandchildren their inherited titles. Don’t be petty.
My humble uneducated guess is that the beguiling King Charles the Turd has managed to muster so much anger and popular hatred against his not so regal persona, that people might be tempted to toss more than eggs at his decrepit Egyptian mummy face, as a result of which he does need a more modern bullet-proof carriage to go around the streets of London.
As for the new thrones, the expense is justified by the need to cater to a really old couple of lovers’ need for an outstanding sound-proof, odor-retention type of padding. Given that the Clowning will take place at Westminster Abbey, it is important© and understable© that Cowmilla and King Chuck-Un benefit from acoustic insulation that will reduce unwanted extraneous noises in a Chapel that echoes the faintest flutter.
These profligate spendings at the expense of the English taxpayer, are therefore amply justified. Let’s vear in mund that Charles and Camilla – despite what rumor has- furst met in 1965 at Winston Churchill’s funeral 😂
#bear in mind#
Are people paying attention to this and getting upset at all?
I lived there so I’m well aware this stuff is ingrained but I feel like there has to be some sort of a breaking point at least for public opinion if nothing more?
Maybe that’s too much to ask.
It really is preposterous – like something out of a fairy tale or myth – “the people were left cold and hungry while the greedy king built carriages and thrones of gold!” like how is this being allowed in the year of our lord 2023???
Yup, that’s how it looks from over here!
The new carriage being made is absolutely outrageous. I read a quote from Elizabeth on her coronation day saying it was “quite uncomfortable,” but KFC can’t just deal with it? How long is he even going to have his ass carted around in that gold mess? He has to have an entirely new one made? He’s the worst. They could add some extra cushioning or some sh*t for him, but making a new carriage is insane.
They couldn’t retrofit that coach with springs or something?
If the carriage is so bumpy, couldn’t he just use a doughnut cushion for the drive?
@C, I’m with you. Are people paying attention and, if so, why aren’t they protesting loudly? This is so offensive and tone-deaf. I can’t believe it, even from these idiots.
As am I. Does Chuckles not read the paper?? Or is Sunak simply kissing his Chuckles royal ring to keep his job???
And let’s be honest, it is simply preposterous that the taxpayers are NOT footing the bill for his this wankers enormous ego.
OR… this is just another “version” of “bags of cash for favors”: Gold-leaf, custom made coach for “favors” to be given at a later date.
I imagine that the chubbly clowning will have many protesters. I don’t see this event going well at all for them. Britain is in a steady decline and at the rate it is going by May things will only be worse. That’s a huge part of the reason I hope the Sussex’s do not attend. Let the greedy selfish and tone deaf royals deal with the public and world view fallout that is from their own actions. This will not end well for them. I can’t imagine how much the royal budget has skyrocketed in the past year with all this spending. Eventually the public will turn on them because at some point their desperation will leave them with no other options. The fall of the British Monarchy can’t come to soon imo. The only thing I hope is that the fall of the tabloids like the Sun and fail happen right along with it.
“I hope the Sussex’s do not attend. Let the greedy selfish and tone deaf royals deal with the public and world view fallout that is from their own actions.”
Y’know, I hadn’t thought about that until now. I had assumed Chucky Boy wanted the Sussexes at his Clowning because he wanted to play the loving dad in front of an enormous audience. Now I realize: he wants them there as a sort of implicit seal of approval. “Look, those international philanthropists, the Sussexes, came to the Chubbly! Surely it’s not ALL bad!” Oy. Stay far, FAR away, H&M!
But he is providing an invaluable economic boost to all of those employed in the UK’s throne-making industry, will no one recognize this
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Don’t forget the boost to the gold-leafed coach makers!
I’m shocked that there’s actually a carriage maker still in business let alone a ‘finest’ carriage maker.
The aristos like their horses so maybe there is a market for carriages and having craftsmen that can repair them? I have a childhood friend in the Midwest that restores old antique carriages. She did a Studebaker one that is her pride and joy she loves it and uses it for local events and parades. I know the Studebaker Museum has contacted her about it but she refuses to part with it. I don’t really blame her.
What I don’t understand is why they just didn’t restore the old one or make modifications to it for a smoother ride? (and have an artist remove the racist images from it.)
The proper medium for his new *throne* is porcelain. (accessories are paper from party pieces)
We just ordered a new ‘throne’ for our new downstairs cloakroom. I suggest he give Kellaway Bathrooms in Bristol a shout, they have a great sale on as long as you order by the end of the month. It would adequately reflect the quality of his character.
LOL @Chaine! You are fire!
@Chaine- “Will no one recognize this?? “!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Chaine that needs to become the new catchphrase every time the RF do some faux/performative “charity” type thing!
Ex- “Princess Kate has devoted nigh on ten years telling people what they MIGHT not already know about toddlers, but probably do. WILL NO ONE RECOGNIZE THIS???”
Charles is CLEARLY doing his dandy best to cut costs for his coronation. After all, his new carriage is only gold PLATED, not the SOLID gold (to match the piano) King Charles would have required, were England’s economy not in the shitter. WILL NO ONE RECOGNIZE THIS??? **
ANNALISE/TYPICAL, Just like the sheep in the UK thought that it was wonderful when chinless Charlie gave his new daughter in law a bracelet valued at £100,000 it’s no wonder she didn’t like it when Megan came along, she was probably worried she would get as much at Christmas and birthday
Ok,I can see re-fitting the cushions on the thrones and carriages , I wouldn’t want to sit on either that all the monarchy since 1926 have been farting on – but that’s it!
You can’t modernize if you’re entrenched in tradition from your slippered feet all the way up to the stolen jewels in your ancestral golden crown.
This. Literally this. Well said. This is an institution out of line with the modern world, and it always will be. It has no place in this time.
Abolish the monarchy.
Look, at least one person is being employed to squeeze toothpaste onto his royal highass’s toothbrush! That’s an important job, people! See, some people have jobs. Chucky waited a very long time for this moment; let’s not screw it up for him by making him feel bad for wanting to outdo his mummy! I can see the tantrums he’s having right now: I want a carriage, a golden carriage, a big one, with nice soft seats and no bumps, I hate the bumps, and I want a cup holder and I want new shoes and a new cape with real ermine and cashmere underpants and, and, and a bigger throne than daddy’s for Cam, and she gets a cup holder in the carriage too. My god, this is like watching the Trailer Park Boys but not as funny or nearly as well written. At least that was made on the cheap. What happened to the Eco Prince? What about the 3R’s? I guess Chucky’s version is: royal, racist, and redundant.
@TheFarmersWife I’m picturing Veruca Salt as you describe Chuck’s whiny tantrums 😂
Chuck is not an environmentalist; he’s an eco-fascist. He’s big on “purity” and only cares about the rich, most especially his own hideously wealthy self.
+💯 So much for the new “streamlined” monarchy. New thrones are a must. Tradition!! 🤡👑
Perfectly said @peachy, seeing these two decrepit racists sitting on those gold thrones in the year 2023 and it not being a movie is just beyond absurd, they look so effing stupid. How do actual adults buy this grift anymore?
I wonder: if they were to put a referendum to the people of the UK, would they vote to stop funding this group of entitled, lazy, unintelligent boobs? How often is Charles going to be riding in the carriage?! Could he not suck it up for one ride? How uncomfortable can it be? Try riding a subway at rush hour.
You know what’s more comfortable than a gold carriage? A Bentley limo–which they already have.
💯 Too much like right. Plus a Bentley would mean a lot less horse isht to clean up after. Or can someone bribe the royal stables to feed the horses the worse gas producing diet? A team of horses crop dusting London would be an apt metaphor for this bunch. Where’s that pony that was QEll’s grand nemesis? Cruachan, are you out there?
Is he actually TRYING to ensure that he’s the last King? I admit, William’s incandescence would be f–king hilarious, but surely there are cheaper ways to go about it.
I would say get those eggs to throw at the Emperor with no clothes but eggs are expensive. This man is so out of touch it is actually detrimental for the British people.
Maybe plastic fillable Easter eggs and fill them with feces? Does Party Pieces sell them?
I hope the throne-maker delivers two toilets and says “I thought his majesty was just being delicate”
Tomatoes will do
Water balloons filled with urine! Too gross?
Tomatoes. They’re a classic.
Don’t waste any kind of food. Fill water balloons with what the Tories are pumping into the Thames.
He has to. It’s tradition. The all-important protocol. That is more important than whether peasants eat or are warm enough. Ask the BM. All Cam has to do is wear stockings for her coronation and have clear nail polish and the world will be fine.
Shameful! With so many of his subjects suffering, Charles still must have his gold high chair, not just for him, but also for the grimacing sidepiece he promised would never be Queen. The Clowning indeed.🤡👑🤡
He has Camilla sitting on a lower level? So she’s not Camilla R as she signs herself. How much are taxpayers putting up for this?
You know that if this was Harry’s coronation, he would have to pay for everything out of his own pocket.
And buy the thrones at Ikea on Meg’s card.
bwahahaha so true. They’d have to assemble them themselves to boot.
I wonder what Bill and Kath will be wearing and buying?
You can be *sure* it’ll be bespoke and bejeweled. NEW jewels, AND some raided from the Royal Collection (as in tiaras).
I’m American so I don’t always “get” the royalty stuff, but this: “understood to be the most sacred part of the coronation” – sacred? Really? Come on! So ridiculous, the whole thing.
I feel like they say that about everything.
Yes the Chubbly is a holy event for the king that cheated on his wife and his queen the side piece.
Historically, a coronation has always been a holy sacrament – part of the ideology of the divine right of kings. And that is why it has been abolished in the other European monarchies as a way to signal distance to the former absolutist monarchies that preceded the democratic states. Britain is the only Western monarchy that ceremonially crown their monarchs.
It’s not like people are going cold and hungry right?
Despicable that all these millions are spent on one of the richest men in the UK.
I’m an avid Washington Post reader and there was an opinion piece last week regarding the horrible fallout of Brexit, three years later. The once Great Britain is now “little England” on the world stage. And now this. This carriage and throne puffery is so bad it’s funny at the same time.
I too have been reading the current tides in Britain which showcases not simply a few bad months of inflation but an unprecedented wave of stagnated wages, strikes from NHS, teachers as well as other divisions, all while destroying the British pound. This ripple effect that will affect Britains GDP for possibly a decade and this fool is exploiting “tradition” as a means for his own benefit. You can’t possibly tell me that he “needs” a new carriage as that’s simply bullocks.
I’m British and things like this are why I’ve asked my husband to tell his bosses that we are very very open to relocation in the Far East (where his company’s other operational headquarters are) to escape this increasingly crappy island. I can’t bear it any more. We’ve lost so many opportunities due to an isolationist and racist government and every week our quality of life declines. It’s embarrassing and completely our own fault.
@ LizzieB, I am so sorry that you and so many other Brits are suffering needlessly. The current crisis in Britain is simply depressing and devastating. I feel a tremendous sense of empathy for all of you.
I do hope that your husband is granted a transfer.
On a side note, the comments of the DM regarding Chuckles excessive spending is not too welcoming for everyone that posted a comment. Most people are telling Chuckles to abdicate as well as not buying these ridiculous claims that taxpayers are off of the hook for his Clown show.
Heaven help the chair makers if they wobble. Charles will be incandescent.
Why do I hear Kourtney Kardashian’s voice saying “Kim, there’s people that are dying…” ?
Will there be outrage? Will there be protests? Will there be endless articles written about how incredibly insensitive this is? Nope, nope and nope….at this point I can’t even feel bad for the british public because they are the ones allowing themselves to be duped
The British will be out waving the Union Jack as he rides by the homeless who have been pushed very far back from the spectacle.
ELLIE ARMSTRONG, I’M a Brit and believe me, if I didn’t have cancer I would be at the front row shouting “SHAME ON YOU CHARLES, SHAME ON YOU”, I’M absolutely dusgidted with the waist of money over this sham clowning ceremony. And with the economy in the toilet, WHY are they making it a 3 day bank holiday, just think of all the money lost there
So I guess that funding for Kate’s early years focus will be not be happening? We can’t afford this but can afford that. Much like “no money to feed and house Meghan” but plenty of money for W &K pricey vacations.
No money for his grandchildren’s security, but plenty for a new gold carriage and TWO new thrones. Charles is such a vile man, and he insists on reminding us of that fact constantly.
KingTampon is truly nuts.
Spending huge amounts of money on this garbage. The public should be rioting in the streets. The Govt should deny all funding!
Sickening, vile, Let Them Eat Cake delusional twerp.
This makes me so angry.
Since C2019 the world is in crisis, people are struggling with serious problems, including mental health crisis because just keeping going is hard work, etc. and here we have Chuck.
Hell No! Can’t someone stop this BS spending?
Part of the problem that Charles has with his whole slimmed down monarchy fantasy is that there are ardent monarchists who do things like make the thrones for the new king. He is so conflict averse that he’s unable to say no to shit like this. So he gets no benefit because nothing is actually slimmed down, but manages to piss everyone else off along the way.
Bingo! His conflict aversion is going to be the death of the monarchy itself and that’s poetry.
I thought they couldn’t accept gifts. Or is that only clothes?
There are rules around gifts. The more expensive stuff is considered to be held by the monarch but belong to the public, I think. It’s why the expensive wedding gifts that H&M got were part of the crown jewels. That’s why they wanted H&M to have a big wedding. For the swag that the monarchy could collect and use. There’s only controversy if Meghan had something that she was allowed the use of.
It’s not the price of the gift, it’s whether it was an official gift from a head of state. Ala the MBS earrings Meghan got dragged for by the BM. Regular gifts belong to the couple.
Doesn’t he have a classic car collection? It would be kind of neat if he arrived in an older carriage but left the ceremony in a classic British car. It would be a nod to tradition while looking ahead.
These people do tradition for traditions sake and why? What purpose does it serve?
He’s got an Aston Martin, my dream car. He’s modified it to be more ecological. He COULD roll up to the coronation in the same car James Bond drives while getting thousands of headlines for the environment. But, no.
Chuckles da Turd’s Craptacular Con-A-Nation: You can’t polish a turd, but you sure as hell can roll it in glitter and put it on a brand-new golden throne!
Let’s hope the royal craftsmen (I would say “craftspeople”, but we all know the truth) remember to include the mechanisms for a nice, powerful flush. In both thrones.
Every time I see a reference to Charles’ throne, I picture the loo that he has dragged all over the island so it’s available for him on all his tours. Maybe he could use that for the clowning.
Haha! Good one
This is so preposterous. Do Brits not read/see stuff like this and immediately question why this they are still putting up with this antiquated sideshow? As many problems as we have in the U.S., I will always be proud that we rejected this joke of a system. A carriage in the year 2023 FFS
It depends whether we see it or not. If I didn’t come here I wouldn’t know about any of this.
Only 27 asses since the 13th century? Frakkin’ A, that says a whole lot of shit alone.
What a huge waste of money. Not only do we get Chuck’s golden carriages & new thrones but probably Prince randy Andy front & center. I think that sticks in my craw the most, that the rapist gets a taxpayer funded lavish lifestyle while the peasants starve.
And Randy will be in full dress uniform and allowed to wear the uniform.
At least we know cake will be served at the UpChuckathon 2023.
These people truly cannot read the room.
The only new thrones he needs are ones that can handle all of his shit. Good luck with that.
Can any English/British readers comment on how the country is feeling about this?
I think many of us, as Americans, can’t wrap our mind around this in general, let alone in a cost of living crisis.
This as pretty much the whole British health-care system is going on strike this week.
Throne-makers go out of business for a reason.
Like the proverbial buggy whip makers.
C, I’m a Brit and I think it’s fkg disgusting. How dare he, people are having to chose between heating and eating, food banks are the biggest growth industry in the UK. Stikes are taking place across nursing, ambulance Crews, doctors, firemen, rail workers, postal services and this vain, selfish, odious man wants new carriages and 2 new thrones. What’s the matter did Billy bully and botox barbie demand the other two. Is absolutely sickening, and NO I don’t believe for one minute that we won’t be paying for all of it
Of course Charles needs a new Enclosed coach! One puff of wind and Cams face would blow apart. Besides, all the better to protect him from those eggs that sprout out of nowhere.
New thrones? What do you expect from this fop who travels with his own toilet seat?
What a waste of money but I suspect these changes are being made because of Charles’ Mummy and Daddy issues.
Why isn’t the British Government saying We Will Not Pay?
Charles has no actual political control, does he?
I read somewhere the TQ had a personal fortune of $458M at the time of her death.
Charles and William are hugely wealthy.
Pay for it yourselves.
It is almost worse than the Trump years here in US.
Constant bad ideas, locking kids in cages, ignoring the homeless, spending Billions on defense while the quality of life continues to go to crap.
The joint is on Fire! Do something to help the people.
This BS is causing my blood pressure to go up, and I’m in US.
I’m a Brit and want to abolish the monarchy. But it’s not part of the national conversation at the moment, largely due to our horrid press. We have to get rid of this Tory government first and can then focus on things like this.
@ebs that is the key.. when the Tory government goes, and I firmly believe it will, things will start to change. By May it should be even worse according to projections and the British will be dealing with a devastating recession/depression while the rest of the world is seeing growth. I am truly worried about the poor souls trapped there having to go through all of this. They only upside is between the lawsuits and poverty no one will be able to purchase the tabloids and hopefully they will end up bankrupt. I have a feeling things are going to get much worse before they start to improve. It is like watching the decline and devastation that happened in Venezuela which a lot of people saw coming and nothing was done.
There will be a general election by Jan 2025 at the latest. That will represent a new epoch for British society. Things will change as quickly and deeply as they did a century ago. The longer the Tories delay the election the fewer seats they’ll win, but denial is evergreen.
EBS, yep, fellow Brit here. The tory government has to go! And go fast and take this selfish dysfunctional family with it. Harry did the RIGHT thing, and if he can make a place for himself and his family, so can the rest of them. They are nothing more than money grabbing, infighting, inbreeding leeches and the sooner we are shot of them the better. They have no loyalty to the country or each other. Christ it’s asif there is even a competition between them to see who can spend the most. Does anyone here remember the “Beverley Hillbillies”, because the Windsors of wankinghan make them look tame.
Then make it part of the national conversation. It’s all wound up in Tory power anyway.
I think any American who believes in gun control will know that things are sometimes not as simple as that.
I was just in London two weeks ago for work and had some free time so I decided to go visit the Tower of London. I forgot the Crown Jewels were there, I was more there for the morbid/dark history of the place. But since we were there, my coworker and I walked past the Crown Jewels and saw all the crowns of past monarchs, scepters, and treasures owned by Crown (couldn’t take pictures of course!). Charles’s coronation crown wasn’t on display as it is currently being prepared for the Coronation (I think it’s the same that Elizabeth wore) but honestly, all those imperial crowns look the same so I didn’t feel like I missed too much because I saw everybody else’s crown (you can see most of what I saw here: https://www.rct.uk/collection/near-you/jewel-house#/). It just boggled my mind to see so many jewels in one place and made me realize just how much the royal family profits off of everyone. Charles doesn’t need a new carriage or a new throne, he just wants one because he thinks he’s anointed by God. The whole institution is just so… I don’t even have a word for it at this point.
My 19-year-old and I went to the Tower of London last summer and saw the Crown Jewels. She was absolutely disgusted by the wealth hoarding and the way the provenance of some of those jewels was glossed over. (I was too, but it was less of a surprise to me.) It felt different from a museum because we’d seen an actual living (at the time) person using the objects we were looking at. I really don’t know how they can live with themselves.
My son in college is similarly disgusted, there’s not enough lipstick in the world for this pig.
So tone deaf. I’m finally just about finished with Spare and it is just shocking to me. These people are almost tragic. If they weren’t so privileged.
This is appalling. Britain is falling apart and UpChuck throws himself the bIGGeST coRONaTIOn eVEr costing millions. Massive strikes, foodbanks running out of supplies, lack of health care, the cost of living soaring, recession, job loss and this goober wants a new chariot and thrones. I just can’t….I nearly moved to England 20 years ago to marry my English boyfriend, but for a variety of circumstances it didn’t happen. Am I ever glad I dodged that bullet. I hope this is the tipping point for the British people who are suffering as a result of this lunacy and the Tory party gets booted in 2025.
Apparently, the new coach is “a gift and will cost nothing to the monarchy or the taxpayer.”
So you can write off a gold coach as a charitable contribution on your taxes?
A gift from whom? The cash in the suitcase guys?
Exactly. Who the hell is this gift from? Himself?
Luckycharm, and if any people believe that I have an island they can buy
Prince Harry’s not the only one at present who is receiving ‘bad press’.
Surely, this cannot be considered a good look???
The only “thrones” these worthless assh*les are worthy of are some of Trump’s golden toilets.
I hope someone sneaks one of those little sound effect things into the coronation that plays a loud toilet flushing sound every time C&C sit down and stand up during the ceremony.
Charles waited at least 40+ years for this coronation, so he will not be denied a grand show. The people in England have not taken to the streets to protest any of this so they must be okay with it.
Its a tricky subject. I am fervently anti-monarchy but would I make a visible protest with say a sign in my window? Probably not as I imagine a lot of my (particularly older) neighbours will feel this is something to celebrate and I wouldn’t want to affect my relationship with them. That said there was no mention of a jubilee street party (and pre-covid we had them fairly regularly just because we could) so maybe I’m underestimating the republican sentiment on the street.
Weren’t they arresting (or at the very least, detaining) the people who threw eggs? That’s probably deterred some of the protesting, so, mission accomplished, KFC. Special place in hell, etc.
Can’t wait to see how that new carriage looks after it’s egged.
Tacky and tone-deaf as hell. The people should revolt. Even Marie Antoinette with her, “Let them eat cake” (which she might have said either naively or not at all) was charitable to her people. And she had her head cut off! This Charles is a monster.
J. FERBER he is a spoilt, selfish man child who has now married his mother substitute. She is gloating as the coronation is her victory lap, the hard faced old sow. Now, grab your popcorn and sit back and watch because now, until just after the coronation Billy bully and botox barbie will make their move to grab the crown. While EVERY UK paper is busy trying to dish dirt on Harry and Megan, those two vile slippery sods are slithering around, behind the scenes launching vanity project after vanity project to show themselves in the best light possible so that when they pounce (and they will), people will just say “ah bless them”. The British public are so gullible, well some of them but not us on here
@JFerber- Sometimes Tacky just can’t help itself. Not here and not there. Tacky-ness has a way of always being revealed. especially when it’s really schticky 😜
Mary Pester, I hope William does try to depose his father Charles. And it will probably be all through leaking to newspapers. I hope Charles is shaking in his boots. He made Diana’s life a misery during her short life and he deserves no kudos or roses just because his mother kicked the bucket and now he takes her place. May his reign be miserable and short.
J. FERBER I really, really hope so.
A new carriage for Charles is ludicrously offensive regardless of the cost. No one but rich people and the Amish still use carriages. Continuing to use what you already own is fine, but a new carriage? In 2023?! For the exclusive use of a senior who owns a collection of cars?!
The problem is the optics rather than the expense. The environmentalist prince should be having the most recycled and biodegradable coronation ever. The theme of the coronation should be “nothing new.” It’d fit the moment and the mood but Charles doesn’t do self-deprecating.
I wrote a whole bit about what he should do instead but I deleted it. I don’t want to risk my ideas being used to prolong the survival of this medieval institution. It’s harmful to those within and those without.
I totally agree. What a statement could be made. But even if he went with new thrones, he should 1) pay for it himself and eventually bequeath it to the country as part of the English heritage program 2) make a huge deal about supporting British industries and find local wood crafters and draw attention to local, small and/or artisanal companies instead of buying Amazon etc. and 3) say you’re matching the cost and donating an equal amount every month of his Coronation Year.
First, kudos to Kaiser for the Clowning at the Chubbly. Perfect!
How to be more unrelatable is unimaginable. I have no intention of watching any of the Chubbly. I’m sure the highlights will be on the evening news if I’m interested. I hope a lot fewer people watch this than what they anticipate. One of the things they have not taken into account is that people are NOT agreeable to Cowzilla becoming the Queen-Escort. I don’t know about the UK, but I’m sure there are lots of people in the US who won’t be tuning in to watch that. We saw what happened to Princess Di while it was happening. If anything, the side piece is even more loathed now.
@RNot-to me the worst part is that it seems that the carriage is being made as a “gift”. HOW it came to be a gift is a whole other story. Promises of honors? Monarchy simply throwing its weight around? I never fail to be disgusted by how the monarchy insists on getting everything for free, DESPITE its immense wealth. Whether it’s getting all the people who “worked” QE’s funeral to volunteer (despite many claims that the huge, ostentatious funeral “created some temp jobs”, the ONLY business that profited were the florists) or getting this poor carriage maker to make a dang GOLD PLATED carriage for free (and I find out the maker had to buy the materials, I WILL fly to England and assassinate all of the Drab Four), possibly the MOST asinine, was f*cking Kate trying to get FREE FLOWERS from a flower vendor, when she went on that absurd walkabout asking “normal people” whether they thought having a good childhood vs a shitty one influenced a person as an adult(!!!) GEE, I DON’T KNOW KATE! WHAT DO YOU THINK??? YOU’RE THE EXPERT.
I’m seething over this. There is no need whatsoever for a new coach. It’s just more busy work for Jim Frecklington, the Aussie who has already made two fancy coaches for the royals: the Australian State Coach in 1988 and the Diamond Jubilee State Coach as recently as 2014. The latter has electric windows, heating and hydraulic stabilisers so Charles cannot complain about comfort. To me all these coaches are interchangeable – they all look the essentially the same and are equally ludicrous in the 21st century – so why get a new one? I get that Jim likes making them, and his previous efforts have given a bit of work to the Aussies who worked on them, but that’s really not a good enough reason. Anyway, Charles won’t be in the darn thing for long on the Coronation Day so he really should just put a couple of extra cushions in the Imperial State Coach and take it out for a spin.
I see Charles is going to use the proper Coronation Chair for the main bits of the ceremony, so it doesn’t really matter what they are sitting on for the rest of it. There must be some other perfectly serviceable chairs kicking around that could be re-upholstered and tarted up with a bit of gold paint that would do the job adequately without getting completely new chairs made.
I think Charles and Camilla should be crowned in a private ceremony in Las Vegas and have an intimate barbeque for family this summer at Balmoral to celebrate.
Oh, yes! Elvis could officiate. Only fair that one king crown another. Love the idea of the barbeque. That was a favourite activity of his parents, I believe. He could follow in Philip’s footsteps and do the cooking. 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
Wouldn’t it be devine justice if it turned out that prince dufusss of duffsville WASN’T Charles’s son and Harry was the rightful heir 🤣🤣oh my can you imagine the British rags screaming in rage 🤣🤣
Ah now Mary you’re teasing me! If ONLY. Wouldn’t have any doubt there are a few little Windsors or Wales out there.
Harry is probably the only male British male in centuries that is loyal to his lady and it shows and that why I love him.
Sorry, my grammar & spelling disgraceful.
MARION, yes it would be fantastic if Harry were the rightful heir, but failing that, oh god wouldn’t I love to see A PATERNITY CASE brought against William and him being made to cough up, wonder if kitty kat would think that early years are important then 🤔🤔
I don’t live in England (and I think it’s important to note that Wales and Scotland are MUCH more liberal in politics more anti Monarchy, and pro Harry to boot. Like, you’re not taking a huge risk of being killed by an angry mob in Scotland, if one were to say “her highness Elizabeth can sod off, that cow, and away and bile her bloody heid!”. Im not sure about Northern Ireland, but I imagine it’s more like Wales or Scotland than England. In any case, I always like to specify England when I’m speaking in a derogatory manner about that Island, vs saying “the UK”) , but I do have family there, so I’ve spent a decent amount of time there, and I think that something people need to accept is that, much like I will NEVER be able to convinced my grandmother that mixed race children are not “mongrels”, England’s elder generation of royalists are JUST as intractable. Much like my grandmother, with whom It wouldn’t matter what evidence I had, what studies I showed her, that world view was INGRAINED. And those in England, who think that Harry and Meghan are worse than Andrew (which is a good way to determine who is worth discussing the monarchy with, and who isnt), that perspective is a part of their very being. And much like NO ONE will ever convince me that Harry and Meghan are worse than Andrew, NO ONE will convince them that Andrew is worse. So rather than fret and be shocked and amazed that there will NEVER be enough evidence for some to be convinced that the monarchy HURTS the economy, that Charles DOESN’T CARE about them, and that almost ALL the remaining royals couldn’t care LESS about the UK, only themselves, people should be focusing on the YOUTH. The ones who will be UK’s future politicians, the ones who will be driving future policies, influencing UK’s culture, and determining the quality of life for all of the UK (assuming Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are even PART of the UK in the future! 😉)
I think we are long past the realization that there are LOTS of royalists in England and they SUCK, and are impervious to ANY and ALL evidence that is RIGHT in their faces, that the monarchy is SHIT. I think ALL efforts should be focused on the young people, in whom I have MUCH more faith
A 90-something woman called into an LBC show (sadly not James O’Brien) and ranted about how awful Chuck was for not protecting his daughter-in-law. That not caring for and protecting his family showed him to be absolutely rotten through and through and totally disgusted her and all her friends. She mentioned that she volunteers at a food bank regularly.
It’s not just age. There are plenty of old people who are infuriated with Chuck. He has never done his family duty. I don’t know about in England, but I have known a lot of people who are old-fashioned in some ways but neither racist nor sexist, and family is absolutely paramount to them.
I’m on a lot of royal history groups on Facebook, etc and it’s crazy the number of people who you’d think would be proSussex and antiEveryone Else (especially Andrew) but aren’t. Black, young, gay, women, otherwise liberal residents of the uk or commonwealth. And I know a lot of them, it’s not like they’re Twitter bots. They’re intelligent, read a lot but have a HUGE blind spot here. It’s nuts. Even one friend (40ish liberal gay black man) will defend the Sussexes but still loves the royals (he lays all the blame with the press) and defends Andrew, saying Victoria G is a hooker looking for money. 🤯
Emily- i have no doubt that there are plenty of older people in England who see the royal family for what they are, and i would even go as far as saying that MOST of the people in the UK support H&M. but if you were to gather up all the bigoted royalists, you would find that the fast majority are 60+ years old.
Im incredibly grateful to people like the 90 year old woman you described, who remind us that the tabloids rags DO NOT represent the UK. And im also grateful that most of the bigots will be dying sooner rather than later.
The British media (that’s you also BBC) are complicit in this enabling of disgusting wealth while the rest of us worry about bills and a roof over our heads.
Real journalists should bring the Royals into every convo about the cost of living.
I’m praying H&M don’t go and that a huge earthquake hits as close to his Coronation as poss.
He’s not my king and neither will WandK be either.
A curse on their houses.
Given the immense tragedy unfolding in turkey and Syria I wouldn’t pray for an earthquake anywhere.
You know who’s really good at pomp and spectacle? North Korea. Maybe people should take a pause before considering that a good thing.
Chuck thinks the world exists for his benefit.
And he and the rest of his malingering family will only have themselves to blame.
Charles is not reading the room. At all.
Here’s and idea, someone wants to gift you a multimillion dollar, gold plated carriage? Ask them to donate to a charity that helps poor families in need of food, nappies, formula. Stuff like that.
Honestly this is really upsetting to read this. It really is. It’s like we haven’t progressed from the 1600 or something.
This is such an awful look to be doing this in hard economic times-it was reported on Cnn sunday morning-the UK will be dead last in recovering this year-the suffering will continue until the very end of this year-why project this type of over the hill expense to a suffering public-this I will never understand their reasoning for doing this now-the people of the UK are so use to little bread crumbs -they accept anything.-I recently read a UK singer or actor said the reason for going to the USA was being able to create ideas and put them into action without feeling you were getting out of your place-class system.
“specialist craftsmen trained through the Prince’s Foundation could be selected to make King Charles’s throne.” If IKEA was good enough for Meghan and Harry, it’s certainly good enough for Chick and Cammie..
Up-Chuck is disgusting! How much per minute will his new ride cost? More Saudi money coming soon?
Do constituents tell their parliamentary members how inappropriate this is? There should be a mail campaign to reps: “If you want to keep your seats, put the RF on a very tight budget with no new capital expenditures for anything, especially carriages that will likely never be used again.”
Time to retire the RF. It’s no longer needed for anything except to satisfy the vanity of the RF and their personal employees.
Come- on , Chuckle is saving the tax payers money . the Saudi’s running the BRF and the daily fail ,donating a new coach ? Who I the fack does that ? If they are not in bed with them ?