Prince Harry wrote with candor about his romantic and sexual history in his memoir, Spare. He treated his ex-girlfriends respectfully, from his minor romance with Florence “Flee” Brudenell-Bruce, to his longer, more meaningful relationships with Chelsy Davy and Cressida Bonas. He also addressed when and how he lost his virginity at 16-17, writing:
“She liked horses, quite a lot, and treated me not unlike a young stallion. Quick ride, after which she’d smacked my rump and sent me off to graze. Among the many things about it that were wrong: It happened in a grassy field behind a busy pub.”
Harry didn’t identify the woman beyond the fact that she was older than him and “she liked horses.” I suspect that describes a lot of women in the UK. But now, almost a month after Spare was released, one of Rupert Murdoch’s newspapers paid a 40-year-old named Sasha Walpole to claim that she was Harry’s first. They also got her to whine about how upset she is that Harry told everyone about her, even though she’s literally outing herself.
A former Highgrove groom has revealed she is the older woman who took Prince Harry’s virginity in a field behind a busy pub. Sasha Walpole, 40, told The Sun on Sunday they had a passionate five-minute romp while the royal’s security searched for him in a blue Ford Fiesta.
Sasha said: “I am the woman who took Harry’s virginity. It was literally wham-bam between two friends. The sex was passionate and sparky because we shouldn’t have been doing it. One thing just quickly led to another. We ended up on the floor.”
The one-off encounter took place in a meadow behind the car park of the historic Vine Tree Inn in Norton, Wiltshire, in July 2001. At the time Harry was just 16 — a year younger than his autobiography claims. Harry and Sasha, who now works as a digger driver, knew each other from when she worked as a stable girl at Highgrove, the country retreat of King Charles, and previously enjoyed trips to polo matches together. The pair had sex after leaving a party held at the pub to mark Sasha’s 19th birthday.
Sasha, now a married mum of two, said: “We went outside and both climbed a three-bar fence to the field. We were quite drunk at this point. I gave Harry a cigarette. I lit mine and then his. We finished our cigarettes — Marlboro Lights — and it just happened. He started to kiss me. He was wearing boxers. There was no chatting, no words. It was exciting that it was happening. It was exciting that it was happening like the way it was. We were away for 15 minutes but the sex was about five minutes.”
In Spare Harry writes about his “tender penis” following a 200-mile North Pole expedition, adding: “I’d been horrified to discover that my nether regions were frostnipped as well, and while the ears and cheeks were already healing, the todger wasn’t.” Sasha said: “In that case Harry must have had an above average problem with that, from what I can recollect. We didn’t set out to do it and it wasn’t pre-meditated. He was young. We had been purely friends and it was a little bit naughty, in the sense that it shouldn’t have been happening.
“It wasn’t Prince Harry to me. It was Harry, my friend — and something that got a little bit out of control. It just so happened that he was a prince. Afterwards I did grab his bum and gave him a slap. It was with one hand. He had a lovely peachy bum — but he was young.”
Sasha agreed to speak to The Sun on Sunday after being left shocked by Harry’s disclosures in his book Spare, which has so far sold 3.2million copies worldwide. Sasha said: “No one warned me about the night being included in the book – and Harry, or his people, could have found me to tell me if they had wanted to do so. I lead a peaceful life — I didn’t invite this.”
“No one warned me about the night being included in the book – and Harry, or his people, could have found me to tell me if they had wanted to do so. I lead a peaceful life — I didn’t invite this.” He literally didn’t name her or describe her in any way. She is truly being paid for this interview, paid to describe in intimate detail what happened between them the summer before he turned 17. This is so f–king tacky. And to see royal rota dumbf–ks try to claim that Harry forced Sasha’s disclosure is insane. AND she also sold an exclusive to the Mail as well!
#PrinceHarry's hypocrisy is truly astonishing. Here, the privacy campaigner's first 'lover' asks: I kept our secret for 21 years. Why couldn't he warn me he was about to tell the world? #royal Read the exclusive in the Mail on Sunday or now via @mailplushttps://t.co/OUmfaiK4JB
— Richard Eden (@richardaeden) February 4, 2023
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red, cover courtesy of The Sun.
This woman shines a huge spotlight on herself and then asks why everyone is looking at her??? No one was checking for her at all. Everyone online has stated they thought “older” meant at least 10 years older than Harry’s then-16-years, so people were looking for someone in her 50s/60s now. She’s a money-hungry/fame-wh*re who just wants her 15 seconds of fame.
She is never the person in the book! Never! As you said @rawiya, the lady was at least 10/20 years older by his description. This woman in the article is just a poor naïve person who thinks she can make some money out of it. How disgusting that the tabloids exploit this woman and how pathetic that half of England can hardly believe their luck with this new story of lies..
He didn’t say how much older she was. He just said she was older. The whole thing is about two sentences long. But he never says what the actual age difference was.
I have to agree because as I read the article, it seemed she was a bit younger than I would expect. Plus, anyone who has kept their secret of being a Prince’s first this long has to be someone who understands the “game rules” of how that works in the aristo circle. Something seems off, but I have bene wrong before.
If you’re in high school, pretty much anyone college-aged seems “older” at the time.
Agreed, Molly. When you are in high school, a college freshman looks like a fully formed adult.
Here’s an idea: Murdoch should pay one of William’s alleged mistresses to out herself! That would be a juicy story. I’m sure they have quite a list. They just don’t want to do it.
I read someplace that will talked about his first time.
Would not gain traction
Baldy is not interesting
Now she’s forever tabloid fodder. Watch them harass/shame her and her family/friends as the time goes by, as hereafter they will continue to reveal shit about her/them.
Because the tabloid method is – we’ll pay you for a story we’ll give you the talking (attacking) points for, and thereafter we want to earn ever penny .. and much more .. back. Therefor you will forever be part of our clickbate stories.
Hope she’s calculated the future (unwanted) harassment, and has asked herself ‘is it word it, before blaming Harry for the upcoming/ongoing shaming and harassment she definitely will get.
And she has two children! I cannot imagine how mortifying this is for them. But she got paid, so. 😒
@Ameerah, that is technically true, but when most people hear “older woman,” they don’t think 1-2 years older. Harry probably did that purposely, to throw the press off and send them searching for much older women.
Some are still finding excuses as to the vileness of how Tabs report. No one is thinking that she cannot profit, but why blame Harry for ‘outing’ her? NO ONE knew who she was. She should think it’s awesome that a young boy CHOSE to even mention that encounter and the ‘journalists’ could spin that angle and still make a profit. But no, beat Harry some more.
Can’t help but notice how the tabs use her current-day photos in juxtaposition to photos of Harry at 16-17. And obviously, she outed herself.
Right! Like Kaiser said, older and likes horses describes a lot of women in the UK.
He didn’t invade her privacy. She outed herself and was paid for it.
After reading that part in the book (pg.70), I gave about 5 seconds of thought to who it might be. That was a blip in what that particular page was about.
Never heard of her before.
LOL can’t wait til ALL the women older than Harry come out of the woodwork to claim THEY were his first!
LOL. Okay, I’ll admit, it was me!
#IWasHisFirst would be a funny hashtag to get to trend. Might take the wind out of some sails.
It would remind me of one of my top 10 favorite movie scenes. Stockard Channing is beautiful in this clip.
This woman was waiting for decades for Harry to say anything that would give her permission to scream, “IT WAS ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” She wished on stars, she threw pennies into fountains, she did the whole “he loves me, he loves me not” with a flower, and she knows this is her last chance on Earth to let out the secret she loves best.
Who could blame her? It’s Harry. Except for the part about punishing Harry for violating her privacy, because you were just a footnote in a book that no one in England is reading all that carefully.
Hahahahaha. Yes! Cue every middle aged British white lady claiming it was them!
So I do think she was probably between a rock and a hard place here, if other people know, because as Harry says in the doc, it’s not about who you trust, it’s about who they trust, that’s literally how it works because people talk. And the media was going to keep searching until they found someone who would accept payment to talk and sooner or later someone who knew would out her. Obviously if her texts were real that were in the press, at least one other person knew the minute the book was published. I’m sure a bunch of the friends out that night and officers figured it out. I mean my God, Rupert was out their mouthing off on the subject, the search would never end. So for her it was probably only a matter of time and faced with that, she had to do what she could live with and thought was the best choice for her. It’s her story too. Personally, I would have made a different choice/gone about things a different way.
Anonymous, if that’s the case, she had choices to make about how she would disclose this information. Isn’t it interesting she chose the tabloids that Harry is suing? I wonder how much money she’s been paid, because I suspect that was the motivator here.
Wow. Her whole statement is so distasteful. She must have been paid a fortune to want to out herself like this. But somehow it is Harry’s fault *sigh*
She claims he outed her but he didn’t name names. He didn’t even describe the woman who he had sex with only that she was “older.” How
Is that “outing” her?
Ditto 💯 %
Stupid story. British readers pay the terrible tabloids for this? Do they believe he calls someone “older” if they’re only two years older? Does he describe Meghan as “older” since she’s three years older?
It’s actually refreshing to see how much blowback this article is catching on Twitter. A lot of people calling her/them out for her outing herself out when he gave no descriptions.
lmao literally no one knows who this woman is. you absolutely invited it because no one knew who you were!
IKR? I was surprised he told us something so personal but it wasn’t an exceptional story. 16-17 year old desperate to lose it hooks up for two minutes with someone older. How many *thousands* of readers were like “yup, me too.”
I am sure Harry told his personal stories first so that the tabloids did not have the chance to leak. The tabloids may have already had the story and was waiting for the right time to release it. Harry told his story in his own words.
Yeah, that makes sense, and now it’s being treated like a scandal anyway. I mean, it’s not a particularly unique or interesting story, other than involving Prince Harry, and if someone I had a brief, meaningless encounter with 20 years ago suddenly became famous, I’d be mortified at the thought of cashing in on it.
I read the “older lover is Sasha”, and did an immediate deep dive into who Sasha could be. I assumed it must be a Cher, Oprah, Viola, Dolly….nope.
Your innocence wasn’t in question, Sasha. Shut the fuck up with your smelling salts, Victorian England.
I got a good laugh on this one this morning. Who really cares who she is especially since no one knows her. It’s not like it was Jlo or Beyonce or Hillary Clinton. Who cares.
And this is revenge on Harry for calling out the media.
How is this woman making a fool of herself “revenge” on Harry? We don’t even know if this is the truth and the only way to know is if Harry names her. So if she wants to be known as Harry’s first roll, that’s on her, not him. But if the media were worried that people didn’t have enough examples of how toxic they are, well here you go.
Making this a story is revenge on Harry by the media – not the woman’s revenge. This is such a non-issue but the media covered it for a reason and the only one I can think of is to try and put another distasteful story out there that may hurt or embarrass Harry and his family.
Harry put the story out there himself. In his book. So how would this embarrass him? If anything, assuming this woman is telling the truth which is doubtful, it just shows he wasn’t lying. This is an own goal by the media, proving how manipulative they are. I think this woman will regret this because now people are scrutinizing everything about her.
That’s one thirsty bish.
Sounds like someone was left offended that Harry paid her dust in his book.
Cue another interview in 4 months time on how $elling her $oul for $$$ ruined her life.
Enjoy your 2 minutes of fame.
Yup and her children will face the consequences of her drive for fame and money. Those are the people she should have taken into consideration before making her claims public. You deal with the devil and you should expect to get burned.
It’s like she expected a trophy or something or for him to memorialize her by naming her. He was being discreet. She’s being trash.
The suggestion that Harry outed who she was is insanity. She did. She did that. An older woman that like horses could be anyone. But yeah let’s pay someone money so we can pile on Harry some more.
Exactly. She obviously couldn’t wait to let the whole world know that it was her. This is clearly the most exciting things that’s happened to her since she slept with Harry in the early aughts…
Used to know a guy that would tell every woman she was his first. Worked every time.
Doubt she actually was the first, but wished she was.
It really is insane. I feel like people had moved way beyond this story. This is definitely just someone who wanted some money and some time in the spotlight.
It is a very obvious money grab aimed at smearing Prince Harry that didn’t pan out well for her imo. I can’t imagine being known as the “pub fvck” will do her any favors at all. The fact that she tried to act outraged and hurt at not being contacted is laughable this a a woman who admittedly has no issue with having public sex and drawing attention to that fact and supplying her photos for the tabloids. That alone leaves her no room to cry any outrage imo. She should have kept her dirty little secret and taken it to the grave if it is causing her such distress no one would have been the wiser except whoever she told. Running to the tabloids and expecting them to play fair is just laughable especially for an aristo Brit. She brought on her own humiliation, hope the check was worth it.
Some of the excuses Eden uses to blame Harry is that her friends knew it was her based on what Harry said in the book. But the book says nothing except she was an older woman into horses. So she must have been telling her friends when it happened for them to know this.
She is the one who never kept it quiet.
She told a few friends, her sister and her mother at the time.
I can’t imagine anyone telling their mother that!
@Cairidh. It’s bragging rights. She was the help who had sex with a Prince. Felt she did her part for Queen and Country.
He just said she was older and liked horses. That probably describes most of the women in England at that time.
He didn’t even said he lost her virginity to a stable hand, which would have been a fun touch.
Ain’t nobody was checking for this bitch except the tabloids. They just wanted to Trump up some faux outrage.
Already fading from the tabs
Is she dumb and is Eden dumb too? These people worry me because it’s clear they believe the bile they write. No one even remembered that story, she literally came forward on her own accord.
NOKI, let’s call for a big, BIG round of applause for Eden, who once again has shone a spotlight on the way the sick media works and for proving Harry RIGHT AGAIN, This stupid digger driver (no disrespect to digger drivers) has dug a great big hole for herself and her family. Did she even bother to think of what her children will go through now? Does she have a husband, if so what is he thinking. She and she ALONE outed herself. Harry didn’t and Harry doesnt need anyone’s permission to say what happened in his life. This stupid, stupid woman has opened the flood gates now and will be a target of the media for a long time. And I wonder what the age of consent was then?
I lived in England in the 60s, and went back in the 70’s and 80s. The age of consent then was 16.
I checked Wikipedia:
In 1275, the first age of consent was set in England, at age 12 (Statute of Westminster I). In 1875, the Offences Against the Person Act raised the age to 13 in Great Britain and Ireland, and ten years later the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885 raised it to 16.
I lived in England in the 60s, and went back in the 70’s and 80s. The age of consent then was 16.
I checked Wikipedia:
In 1275, the first age of consent was set in England, at age 12 (Statute of Westminster I). In 1875, the Offences Against the Person Act raised the age to 13 in Great Britain and Ireland, and ten years later the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885 raised it to 16..
Is it me cause it’s a nothingburger story
It must be the right amount of money that her husband agreed it’s fine. Hope it wouldn’t ruin her relationship with her kids though, that’s one of the most awkward things I can imagine a parent doing « to » their teen.
Harry should sue if this woman is lying, which I believe she is.
Also, one reaps what they sow. She outted HERSELF. Deal with it, cupcake. Don’t blame it on Harry, who gave no implicit, direct details of the woman. It was all vague.
Yeah sure… 😂😂🤦🏼♀️
Idk I’m not mad at her. There were probably enough people who knew or suspected it was her that she has had press and paps hounding her for the past month. If you read the article she is actually really nice about Harry and the experience. He’s making millions on his book deal where this was one of the juiciest excerpts, why can’t she profit too?
But I’m confused as to how anyone would know it was her. And I don’t think she was being stalked by paps or anyone before outing herself? Honestly, if she wants to get money from saying it was her? Fine. But it’s the idea that Harry somehow intruded on her privacy and that wasn’t warned and didn’t invite this into her peaceful that bothers me. No one had to know it was her. The privacy issue is a stick used to beat the sussexes with in the BM and she played into that. If she hadn’t said that, I wouldn’t much care either.
Not saying this is what happened, but perhaps she bragged about it to friends shortly after it happened. Maybe a friend of hers who’s now a former friend read Harry’s book and tipped off the press.
For what it’s worth I think she is trying to get her money and fame. I don’t doubt her side of the encounter but I also don’t think the press were chasing her.
This press probably already had a vague idea of who she was. Harry stated the press had reported on it at the time, albeit inaccurately. They already had the pictures from back then during that time frame. They probably narrowed it down to a few girls. I have no doubt, at the time, she probably bragged about it to her friends. Either they talked or people around her talked. Then the tabloids harassed her into talking or offered her a lot of money she probably needed. You know, the usual.
And, per usual, the press blame Harry as if he FORCED them into stalking this woman and outing her.
@Snuffles, when did Harry state the press had reported on it at the time? Not in the book from what I’m looking at. That page had to do with Marko, drugs and Harry being thrown under the bus per Bolland’s advice.
Why can’t she profit? A mother with children, maybe even a daughter outing herself for fame and money shows she is not far mentally from this rump. Speaks to her character to me. This could have been any number of women who held a similar job. Tacky, greedy and pitiful.
Does it say in the article that the press and the paps were hounding her? There was no description of her in the book except that she was older and liked horses. That’s pretty much every female aristocrat in Britain, so how would anyone know that it was her until she stepped forward? She wanted to make some money, and she did. End of story.
It wasn’t ‘one of the juiciest excerpts in the book’. It was one paragraph with not much detail. It was only put in there to illustrate his fear at the time that the media had found out about it.
The press clearly found it juicy. It was one of the first passages I saw they “translated” when they got their hands on the Spanish version. Then there have been articles ever since, including stupid Rupert Everett which was covered on this blog just yesterday, speculating who was the woman.
No one is saying she can’t profit. We’re saying its disingenuous to say “oh I had no idea this was coming, Harry never told me, now the whole world knows who I am!!!!” No, the whole world did not know who she was. Even if people in her immediate circle may have had an idea it was her, thats not the same as a huge spotlight shining on her because everyone in the world would know it was her. Not at all.
Yeah that could be disingenuous. However everyone has a back story /´reason’ in this situation. No one says « this is humiliating for me and my kids but I can’t turn down the amount I’m getting. »
This would be assuming she was telling the truth and she is the woman Harry was referencing, and that the BM actually put in the effort to find her rather than doing what I suspect, which is paying someone.
Main reason I suspect it’s the latter: paying someone random to admit to something that isn’t true is a lot easier than giving Harry ANOTHER reason to point to the press’ unsavoury behaviour in hounding private citizens. But that’s just me.
Good point @Anna. How many women told the BM no before they found someone who said yes.
She can out herself and make money (and prove Rupert Everett doesn’t know what he’s talking about while we’re at it), but just don’t complain about not being given a heads up. Harry did nothing to reveal her identity. For all intents and purposes, she was an anonymous mum of two and now she, of her own accord, will forever be known as Harry’s first.
I doubt Harry would sue over this, true or not. Just seems…petty.
Oop, commented on the wrong thread.
Either way, this whole thing is just that – petty – if she wants to attach her name to an encounter Harry deems as shameful, that’s on her.
If her kids are in school then my sympathy goes out to them.
I really can’t see the tabs hounding her over this. A random one night stand from years ago that nobody can prove? With someone who isn’t in the public eye at all? It’s not like she had his love child or something. So I think the idea that she was “forced” to do this is a reach.
She can profit I guess, but to these outlets – at this point it shows where your bread is buttered, and not just in relation to Meghan and Harry. Hope it was worth it to her. But then again, no other outlet would pay for this room-temperature “tea”.
I’m inclined to agree, it wasn’t a complete mystery among people at the time. It’s amazing her story came across as nicely as it did.
For everyone saying, she couldn’t wait to out herself, she sounds like she’s mad he never mentioned her name, etc., this is the tabloids, folks. First, chances are good they were on to her. Second, we just had three examples of people who said their words were taken out of context – Harry’s former flight instructor, Mandela’s granddaughter, and the academic discussing mental health. No reason to believe everything quoted as coming from her is completely what she said. Making things up is no different about anything or anyone else than it is concerning H&M. It sounds like a couple of really drunk teens having sex, except, one of them was Harry.
And didn’t a tabloid supposedly offer one of Meghan’s ex-boyfriends $70,000 to talk about her? He turned them down, but that’s a boatload of money. I hope she did get offered something, and don’t know that I can blame her– especially if the tabloids already knew who she was, or who they thought she was, and were going to out her anyway.
@ windyriver, I think that you are on to something……she is apparently upset that Harry didn’t name her so she could be known as the young temptress that was Harry’s first time. Yet she is compelled to out herself as claiming that she was upset that he spoke of his first time and didn’t tell her??? Why would Harry contact here when he didn’t name her??
All of her stupidity simply to make this claim for her 5 minutes of fame as she has placed her family into the crosshairs of the Britshidmedia. I hope that money was worth it Sweetie.
And yes, you are right!! Some old beau of Meghans was offered an enormous amount of ching-ching to speak badly of her.
The tabloids offered a former male costar of Meghan’s $70,000. He was not an ex boyfriend, that was the media’s lie because he years after the one job with Meghan apparently did soft porn to make money. They tried to connect him to Meghan in a sexual manner to embarrass her. He didn’t take the money and outed the attempt by the media to pay him for it. The issue with this situation is that Harry wrote a very small section about losing his virginity and didn’t reveal the woman’s name. She is the one who revealed herself globally and is allowing the accusation that he is the one who did it to continue. Even if a few friends suspected it was her or even the media suspected it was her, there was no reason for her to reveal herself publicly. She was half a minute if a nearly 16 hour book. She was not the story and still isn’t. She is allowing herself to become the story by putting her name out there.
@Windyriver, the guy who was offered $70,000 to lie that he had sex with Meg, was merely a work acquaintance she once had lunch with. He was never her boyfriend. Thankfully, he refused to accept the money, and he later exposed the extortion. ETA: I had already typed this and didn’t see @Nerd’s post till after I posted. Thanks @ Nerd for your input.
It was not an old boyfriend or love interest. He was a coworker that was offered money to lie and say he had sex with her. The offer was for 70,000$ and he refused and went public with it. The tabloids didn’t care about the truth they just wanted someone from her life to make a statement that they could smear her with. The two never were anything beyond a friendship between coworkers, according to his statements. These people are desperate to tarnish Meghan and Harry any way they can get away with. It’s extremely evil.
@BothSidesNow, I think you misunderstood me, my phrasing was a little awkward. I was saying, it’s the tabloids, so we don’t actually know what she said to them about being upset Harry outed her, if she said anything at all, if she felt that way because the tabloids were hounding her, or if they made that part up. I pointed out the other instances of people who recently commented publicly about how their words were twisted. We can’t really believe anything about this story, not even if she’s truly the person Harry was referring to, though the basic story seems to match up.
Again, assuming she’s the person, it wouldn’t be that hard for the tabloids to find her if they really wanted to. It’s ridiculous to assume they couldn’t, that no one else in either his or her circle knew about it. Wouldn’t be surprised if she felt herself already in the crosshairs, because they’d identified her and wanted a juicy story. Actually, It would have been a juicy story at any point in the last few years, so she could have come forward previously, but she didn’t, so there’s that.
I wasn’t sure exactly who the person was that was offered money to lie about Meghan. The point was, he was supposedly offered $70,000, which would be a lot of money for a woman/family of possibly modest means, so I wouldn’t blame her for accepting it, for a story Harry put out in public in the first place, that the tabloids already had because they tracked her down.
Personally, I think this story is going to fade pretty quickly.
Yes. UK tabloids offered Simon Rex $70,000 to lie. (the Sun & Fail are good guesses) We don’t know if he was offered $70k by each or $35K apiece.
We know he wouldn’t do it when he was broke as f&ck and Meghan sent him a thank you note.
It seems the British Media are the ones intent on f*cking things up.
It was Simon Rex. And he’s done porn so you know that’s one of the reasons they went to him to make up a story. Royal Scandal! Harry’s Bride Had Torrid Affair With Pornstar! Queen Blindsided. Aides Say ‘it’s a slap in the face’.
But in the several articles she did, they clearly state that no one suspected her and the identity of the woman for the most part was unidentifiable. Back in December before the book even came out, they thought it was Elizabeth Hurley. I would’ve had more respect for this woman if she just came out and said she was the older woman and the reason for her coming out was because it’s her story too. Instead she lies about Harry outing her. If Harry’s a hypocrite for “invading her privacy” than isn’t she one too because she puts the identity of the two other friends featured in the photo with Harry. She claims Harry had a crush on the other friend and names her. That’s her friend’s story to tell, not hers 🙄
Because her moral compass should be worth more. She outed herself. There would be no reason for the media to know who she was. An older woman who loves horses could be hundreds of thousands of women in the UK, yet she outed herself for money and fame. It is disgusting that she would try and make money from possibly being his first. If the shoe were on the other foot and it was an older man bragging about taking the virginity of a 16 year old girl there would be outrage and I would hope that no one would be celebrating him getting paid for it. The excerpt about him losing his virginity was a couple of sentences and didn’t name or disrespect her. Yet here she is making money and no one knows with all certainty that it was even her.
It’s not disgusting, immoral, tacky, or trashy for him to offer up a sexcapade in his memoir so it’s not disgusting, tacky, or trashy for her to reveal that it was her. I just think it’s pathetic for her or the fail to act like her privacy was violated in the same breath (if she’s actually the woman he was talking about. If not, that would be a completely different level of pathetic).
How would people know it was her unless it was well known in certain circles it was her? If so, then her complaint about Harry ‘outing’ a 21 year old “secret” is invalid. She should just be honest and say Harry didn’t out her and she just wanted to make some money out of the book. Simple.
Like how? The person in the book liked horses and was older that’s it. Unless u say she got it tattooed and then bragged about that tattoo and showed it off every time – then sure I guess?
They’re mad at her because she blames him for not contacting her ahead of time when there was no possible way of knowing it was her.
You do know that a couple other middle-aged white women were suggested to be H’s cherry buster, including Liz Hurley, right? You do know that the shidtrags have been guessing who it could have been and IIRC a middle-aged blond came forward.
Now this one has outed herself. If you want her to make millions off her lousy life you could prolly advise her to write a record-breaking Memoir, like H did.
Oooops! Couldnt, shouldnt and wouldnt happen, amirite?
The tabloids forensic analysis of anything relating to Prince Harry and Meghan is disgusting.
What about devoting that energy to scrutinizing the early years project and multi years awareness campaigns from 2018 to date
*slow clap* I wish the media turned their attention to the royal couple who is literally wasting millions of dollars on harmful messaging and creepy claymation videods
I would love it if Anderson Cooper did a follow up/update to his interview with Harry. 60 minutes has done them before and this would generate a lot of viewers too. Things like, this is what Harry said and this is how the British Media/tabloids spun it. Would love it if he named names of the most ridiculous of the RR spinners. Like Mic Wright does. I would absolutely watch 60 minutes of someone showing the bloviating, blowhardery and buffoonery of the BM and their response to Spare.
I’m still of the mind she is lying I don’t believe it’s her. No 18-19 year old has the confidence to be so blasé after an encounter like that. The real woman cannot come forward else she would be harassed as a pedo for raping a 17 old and he must have been advised by his legal team. So she is after the money. She may have had sex with him at one point.
You could be right about this. Also he wasn’t quite 17 yet, just 16.
The age of consent in the UK is 16.
But when was it lowered to 16
In the UK, this goes back to the Sexual Offences Act 2003.
In my country (Austria) the age of consent has been 14 for quite a while.
I actually dated a 25yo guy at the age of 14 (several of my female friends did the same) and no one cared – we did it because they had cars, money, were fun :). I would do the same in a heartbeat, I loved my teenage years.
IMO there is a huge difference between the US and Europe regarding this…
Sixteen is the age of consent in the UK.
Until Harry sues, I’m inclined to believe her. She would be an absolute idiot otherwise, because it would be too easily disproven.
If Harry sued over all the lies people have told about him over his life, he would have millions of lawsuits pending. That in itself isn’t proof of anything.
Not that I really think she’s lying. It’s a nothing story, true or not.
Harry won’t sue. He’s not going to name the person. I can’t quite believe that 3 years difference in age is an “older woman”. If this person wants to claim the title, why does anyone care? I doubt Harry does. I seriously doubt the older woman does.
I keep seeing Scammy when I read this. I’m going to remain skeptical.
There are photos of her in a group with Harry around that time so it’s likely she had a fling with him. That said she can’t know if that’s who Harry was referring to in the book because it is so vague. And it’s just weird that he would call someone a few years older than him an “older woman”.
Her friends all seemed to “know” it was her from the super vague book description so she clearly told her friends about it and didn’t keep it a secret.
If she wants to cash in I suppose that is her choice, but she can’t accuse Harry of breaching her privacy. She did that herself.
when you’re 16 or 17 a 19 y/o is older and more experienced. 16 is a high schooler in the US. 19 is college age. it’s a smaller gap once you’re a bit older, but at that age it is a considerable difference.
I’m Harry’s age, and I knew 14 yr olds at the time who were blasé after a one night stand.
Most working class British girls of that generation became fully sexually active at 15. That was considered the normal age. They’d mostly been having outercourse with clothes on from the age of 12.
Middle class usually started later and I didn’t know any upper class.
Age of consent in England is 16.
I checked Wikipedia:
In 1275, the first age of consent was set in England, at age 12 (Statute of Westminster I). In 1875, the Offences Against the Person Act raised the age to 13 in Great Britain and Ireland, and ten years later the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885 raised it to 16.
But she literally DID invite this! And it’s pretty obvious he was using the “older woman” description to help cover her identity. I’m sure The Sun encouraged her to be offended so that they had yet another reason to stoke faux outrage about Harry.
Is she admitting to a crime?? He was a minor, or am I mistaken?
Age of consent in England is 16.
Trasha was hardly an ‘older woman’ – she said it was her 19th birthday party. If he was 16/17 and she was 18/19 what’s the damn problem?
16 is a child. 18 and 19 is an adult.
A 19yr old would absolutely seem a lot older to a sixteen year old boy.
Age of consent is 16 in the UK, so he wasn’t a minor in this context.
A truly older woman and a 16 year old would still look like taking advantage even if technically legal. Most people still consider 16 a child.
Plenty of 00s and 10s celebrity teen couples had 3-yr age gaps. Joe Jonas, Liam Hemsworth, and Taylor Swift are still viewed reasonably despite being the older parties in those relationships. So this 2001 situation probably won’t be a bigger deal.
Her coming out to say it was her is odd. It sounds like she is mad that he never mentioned her name. Harry described the experience as shameful and she wants to attach herself to that. It sounds like it meant more to her than to him.
That’s the part I don’t get about her story. If an ex of mine got famous and mentioned our time together as shameful without naming me I would keep my mouth shut. No way would I want people to know my ex thought that about me.
You know what I don’t think anyone would seriously have a problem with this woman making money off this ( there is a cost of living crises going on after all…and at least someone from that over privileged family can claim there doing there part to help the working class). But don’t act like your life was turned upside down, and you were thrown under bus from this situation. Your were not owned a phone call, you weren’t being hunted and if were being honest unless your some kinda Elizabeth Hurley super fan no one in there right mind was going to put you on the suspect list.
Right. I’ve been out here in these royal watching streets since before any of this happened, and I never heard this woman’s name mentioned in anything to do with the old horse gang at Highgrove. Sure, maybe a few close friends knew about what had happened between them all those years ago, but nobody was calling her out online. This is ridiculous.
Agree @A. Harry didn’t turn her life upside down or out her. She did. I didn’t know about the Liz Hurley guesses until the last 24 hours. How did that come about? That’s what I want to know. Hurley is beautiful, sexy and older. I haven’t seen/read a connection to Harry before. May have missed something. Was her name thrown out there because she used to be with Hugh Grant and he(they) have had their own issues with BM reporting? A good reminder.
Re: Richard Eden – Why is it that hypocrites never squeal louder or with more joy than when they try to manufacture hypocrisy where it does not exist.
Given that the DM published Meghan’s letter to her father, Richard Eden is a major hypocrite.
Neither Richard Eden or this woman have any dignity at all. This woman wanted some notoriety for f*cking a prince several years ago and ole Rich who has burner accounts pretending to be Maureen a Desperate Housewife who hates the Sussex’s and loves the Monarch. That island is full of sad, pathetic, jealous gits.
WHY???? If that was me (hahahahahaha) I would keep this locked down forever. I’m pushing 40 and it is NOT a good look for a grown woman to have sex with a teenager for god’s sake. I would be embarrassed and also question my own judgment.
She wasn’t 40 when she had sex with him. She was a teenager herself.
That said she’s the same age as me and looks a lot older. The posed pics next to a teenage Harry do her no favours.
I didn’t realize she’s 40, the book made her seem a lot older back then and I compared these photos to me. The hell does qualify as „older woman“ to Harry then?
I stand by my question of why and the fact that this isn’t a great look.
Harry did a polite thing in that assuming an anonymous member of the public would wish to remain so and wrote nothing about this massively self-deluded crone in his book. So she and the rota can clutch their pearls over crap they made up as usual but it means nothing. Next!
Just one more person disappointing Harry. He did the…gentlemanly thing by keeping her anonymous and being so vague about her identity in the book, and this is how she repays him. I honestly don’t know how Harry has any faith in humanity left at this point.
Ohhh yikes I’m cringing so bad. And so embarrassed for Harry too. On balance it probably is her but do many people (esp men) share with a casual partner if it’s their first time? It seems like a much bigger deal in the movies than to anyone I know in real life lol. My first time was a one night stand rather than a boyfriend and I didn’t say anything to the guy. I’d be mortified to think it was me based on the description only to find out he’d gone there with other women LOL.
Also, how old are her kids? Whyyyyy would you do this? For what, £5000? Not that that’s anything to sneeze at but gosh my privacy is worth more than that to me.
Where does it say he told her that at the time? Maybe she guessed because of his age and no tabloid outing him as involved with anyone before that. Or maybe she didn’t realize she was the first until this book. I do feel for her children. I hope she was very well paid.
Yeah, her kids must be having a great day.
Also, she posed with a copy of Spare?? Omfg, that’s so embarrassingly tacky. Like everything else about this woman.
Embarrassed for H? Why? HE is the one who told this little throwaway tale in less than two sentences and even said it was a shameful episode.
Save your embarrassment and pity for this poor old fool who got suckered by the britshitrags. Did you catch her posing with a copy of Spare? Yikes! So cringe!
You know the shidtrags were ridiculing her, even as they used her for their own anti-Sussex agenda, right?
Yep and posing with people from the Sun. Like Bad Dad did with Caroline Graham. Ick. The money offered must have been really good.
The story is gross and exploitative but I don’t blame HER one bit in light of England’s cost of living crisis. Say what they tell you and cash the check. Dignity can’t keep a home heated or feed kids like a Daily Fail paycheck. I doubt Harry cares a bit either… they just continue to prove his point.
Someone in the Sussex squad said it would be quite funny if Harry came forward and said she was wrong, it was someone else…🤣
This is so ridiculous. He told what was his to tell, she clearly wanted the world to know she was the other half of the underwhelming encounter.
Not trying to sound biased as a Meghan fan, but before princess Meghan, Harry really had an unfortunate taste in women. And since sporting a beard, Harry really looks the handsome prince charming you dream of.
Heeee…had a type.
And this woman outed herself. No one was looking for her and that upset her, made her wonder why everyone else in the world still gets all the attention and not me. When is it my turn? So she got laid, then paid, and her day was made.
He was 16. How many 16 year old boys take advantage of any opportunity?
I mean, he was also a famous prince. Are there no hot girls in England at ALL?
How do you know she wasn’t good looking at 19? He also was likely comfortable with her if he knew her well.
I don’t think the British press got the reaction they were looking for from the public. It seems to me that nobody really cares about this story and the DM has to be pissed that Sasha also sold her story to the Sun. Harry didn’t out her she decided to out herself. Whatever.
I dont know what order she gave the interviews but in the first article I read, she didn’t say anything about her privacy or being outed. Feels like that was a talking point she was given later (especially since she said she wanted to tell her story in her words…exactly Harry’s reasoning for writing his book). Also, it sounds like at least some of her friends knew at the time what happened (one took her back the next day to find her lost belt).
It’s interesting that she kept the birthday card and the stuffed Miss Piggy doll he gave her all these years later, especially considering they didn’t communicate after that night.
Yeah somehow I’m getting a completely different vibe from this than everyone else here too. She seems pretty good natured about it to me, like “whoops I guess we’re doing this now?” And it seems like people knew it was her and it was going to come out in public, so why should they get paid instead of her? [Everyone is just assuming she was paid.]
from the article they were friends for 2.5 years before the ‘deed’ so to speak — part of a larger peer group that hung out and got snockered together.
I’m really surprised at the vitriol for this woman though — he writes that he lost his virginity outside of a pub and he’s just telling his story, she pipes up and says yea, I was the other half of that tryst and she has no dignity?
A friend of hers texted to tell her about the story so there were clearly people that knew and it probably was only a matter of time until it came out. So they both made money off of the story — I say that is a win win.
and can we stop trying to make her out as some kind of predator…
@Same thank you! Unbelievable how everyone on here is attacking her and saying she “lacks a moral compass”, “how could she do this to her chilllldreennn!” etc. Talk about manufactured outrage.
Yeah, she was innocent in wanting “her side” (of what?) out there and just innocently chose the two outlets that hounded his wife almost to suicide and is hand in hand with the nonsense Eden is publishing.
Worst person ever? No. Someone I have to respect? Also no, lol.
I don’t think she’s a predator, but she put our a narrative that she had no choice but to run to the tabloids because Harry outed her. No, he didn’t. This was her choice.
I hope her children aren’t harrassed over this.
Chaine the part that makes this a question of her character and morals to me is not the deed itself, but her decision to out herself to two trashy tabloids who she and everyone else knows are Harry and Meghan bashers, and for what reason? No one knew her name, with except of maybe a few friends of hers, who would have only known because she told them. What was the reason to go to the vilest media in the UK to expose that she was the one. It was less than a minute of a 16 hour audio book so why did she out herself to these specific tabloids about a story what was innocent and consensual between two people? There lies the issue.
We don’t know what happened. The tabloids are well known to blackmail people to get exclusives – if you don’t tell your story we will tell it anyway and you get no control. Look up Gareth Edwards and his outing if you want to see their dirty tricks
I don’t think that works here. This woman is nobody and it’s not like anyone even cares now that she’s revealed it. There’s no way to prove it anyway. And the whole “I did not ask to be included in this narrative” shows her ass, lol.
Giving her story exclusively to two tabloids (makes me think she didn’t receive that much money from the Hun and Fail) in order to maximise her pay day really shows her true motivation. The digger is obviously also a gold digger.
If blackmail was involved then she could have taken her story to another newspaper and said that she’d decided to out herself because she was being blackmailed. She hasn’t done that so I’ll continue to assume that money was the motivating factor.
I do wonder if Harry hadn’t mentioned this in the book would the tabloids have done this at the level they’re doing it? They knew the story but I think esp given the phone hacking that had Harry not ever mentioned this story and the tabloids went ahead and published it, it would have stirred public opinion against the tabloids as a violation of privacy.
However since H brought it up first (not by name but mentioned how), tabloids feel it’s “fair game” to find out who it esp if the person is willing to talk for a price. Either way at least H told the story in his own words and made far more money than the tabloids ever will on this story.
Harry talking about it in his book took away power from the press to sensationalise the story as they would have wanted.
“Fair game” implies journalistic ethics but the Hun and the Fail have no understanding of this concept. In fact H is suing both these newspapers for using illegal news gathering techniques against him. That news organisations would seek out this woman and that she in turn would gladly out herself for profit just further exemplies the failed state that is the UK.
The press was disgustingly gloating that “Meghan won’t like this revelation” and painting Sasha as a victim.
This story was clearly trotted out to attempt to drive a wedge between the Sussexes, like all the “Where’s Meg?” stories.
But more important, it was trotted out to distract from Will and Kate’s horrid PR. I’d bet my bottom dollar Will knew Sasha’s identity and leaked it to the press to give the press something to write about other than Kate’s vapid early years ramblings and their poverty tourism.
The UK press is so stupid. I hope they keep proving Harry right every day.
Lol everyone has a first time so the idea that Meghan would be bothered by this is just funny. Not sure how it’s supposed to create a wedge? Maybe if you still have the brain of a teenager. And agree that this story has really swept away any criticism of the shape up campaign. Convenient no?
Actually, drive a wedge was kind of a misstatement on my part. I meant more like the press wants to make it seem like there’s trouble in the marriage.
Trouble in the marriage because Harry had sex with someone twenty plus years ago? Especially an unnamed person? Talk about a reach. The tabloids need more reasons to sell papers and get clicks. The book has been out a month so they can’t use just that for “exclusives” any more.
Well, def agree that the tabloids will try anything to drive a wedge even if it’s a reach. I mean that’s been their number one goal since the beginning.
I laughed at the “Meghan won’t like this!” headline. Give me a break. I’m pretty sure Meghan wasn’t under the impression that she was Harry’s first.
Even in biographies of the king there is the story of his first time and person named. And no big deal was made about it.
she’s an idiot but with that cost of living crisis im sure she thought becoming tabloid fodder for the check was worth it. sad.
Well if she wants to sell her dignity then that’s on her, I guess. But you don’t get to whine about it later either. And haven’t other women come forward saying it was them?
So trashy and embarrassing, oh my god.
The only thing I got from this is that Harry is a petty king and this woman should be embarrassed. Imagine admitting that Harry being drunk was the only reason that experience happened in the first place. Then going further to show the miss piggy stuffed animal he gifted you. Harry is petty af
How is Harry petty?
The story is about a14-15 yr old boy losing his virginity to a older girl, that’s it. Sounds like normal teenage stuff to me
Hail, LOL. Let’s see. A 19 year old and a 16 year old (according to her) are drunk as skunks and Harry is petty? I thought what he wrote was pithy. He didn’t go into detail and he was extremely careful not to give any information away to identify the person. You’re reaching. Calling it petty is pretty funny.
I never said Harry telling his story was petty. I said Harry gifting her a miss piggy stuffed animal is petty because she should have taken it as a hint that he wasn’t attracted to her. The way she described the experience makes it sound like she enjoyed it. Meanwhile Harry described it as inglorious.
She explained Harry had gone to an amusement park earlier that day with his friends and won the Miss Piggy there. He then decided to gift it to her (as a gag I assume, as he even went to the trouble of stuffing its bra). The card he picked out for her contained a “fart joke”. I don’t think Harry was petty, but he definitely was a 16-17 year old boy with a sense of humour to match. They were strictly friends heading into that night, and he gave her a silly gift. I actually thought what he handwrote in the card was sweet.
@Hail, how is that an example of being petty?
No one knew who she was. I’m sure friends and family figured it out but I would rather deal with that rather than shine a national spotlight on me. I get the cost of living crisis is awful and she probably figured “hey if he can make money from it, why can’t i?”. But she wasn’t named and again, no one other than her friends and family would know who she was.
I’m sure he knew this would come out and this is proving his point about the British press even more. They’re ruthless and toxic. They are clearly OBSESSED with H&M. Why keep writing about 2 people who haven’t lived in your country for 3 years?!
As for her making $$ on this…..eh…..this whole thing will die down and be forgotten in a matter of days. If she wants to sell her story to make a buck….so be it, I guess.
The publisher’s legal team had been over the book with a fine-toothed comb. If this little “morsel” had been actionable, they would’ve flagged it. Therefore, a “nothingburger”.
Personally, I really don’t care. None of my business. Sleep with whichever consenting adult you choose. But please, don’t tell me about it.
You could be legally fine and morally wrong though. A heads up to her and the training pilot would have been nice. He had to know the press would lose their minds.
Outing oneself to be forever known (eh…until the next news cycle hits) as the older woman who took Harry’s virginity in a field behind a pub. Yeah, could have kept that notoriety to yourself. Her kids must be so proud. But I guess if she made some money off of a romp in the grass during hard times, more power to her. Wouldn’t be me.
Don’t you mean ALL of their children will be so proud to read this ? Because both parties to this consensual encounter went public and both have kids .
Nah, I meant exactly what I said. She’s the one that outed herself for no good reason. Harry’s kids will probably be more embarrassed by the frost bitten wanker story than they will be about him losing his virginity. Her kids, OTOH, will have to defend their mother today from this tawdry bit of tabloid buffoonery she jumped into with both feet and her pockets full of coin.
There is literally nothing to defend . Teenagers have drunk sex at birthday party. Pearl clutching at 11
No pearl clutching. No slut shaming. She said her privacy was invaded. I said what I said. I wouldn’t have identified myself, but she chose to, thereby opening herself, her kids, her husband, her dad to be teased about her being the older woman riding Prince Harry in the grass at a party. No shame implied. Get your sex on wherever, whenever, but she’s the one who decided to sell her story. No one knew nor really cared who she was. She decided to confirm what was a minor story in a 600+ word book.
I hate to say this but I will.
If the tabloids offered her money, say $70K, and she took it. That is her decision to do that.
$70K is damn good cash, even after taxes. She has kids, that amount might be a years salary.
Plus, it’s the tabs, 2 weeks from now she’ll be old news.
There is no way in the universe she got that much. Even Toxic Tom only got like $30,000 for his staged pre-wedding pics (they sold for around $100k but he got a 30 percent cut).
She would’ve been offered at least that – probably much more. I was offered money by tabloids about a million years ago as I was involved with a very high-profile business-man. It was over £20k & that was decades ago. So for shagging a prince, yup, that & more.
I had too much self-respect/embarrassment to accept!
20k and 70k aren’t the same.
Were you being offered that money for a single time that literally nobody can prove, in a story about your relationship that he already wrote about? If so, then I suppose it’s comparable, but my points still stand.
I’ll go one step further — even if she didn’t make a DIME — what is with all of the slut shaming?
Teenagers drink at a party and have friend sex — STOP THE PRESSES!!
Calling her trashy? no dignity? cheap? gross?
Guess only one half of the equation gets to talk about it or profit from it.
Harry’s entire journey has been about exposing double standards and here we are…
You are missing the point. The media are using this to bash Harry, saying he violated this woman’s privacy when he in fact did no such thing. She did that.
She’s not being called trashy for having sex, she’s trashy for selling her story and then complaining about privacy. Two totally different things. Obviously we know Harry had sex with somebody and if he gave that person the courtesy of not being named, then that person should have taken that courtesy and ran with it. Since she doesn’t care who knows about this then she can’t complain because she got what she wanted.
All this slut shaming? 😂 yeah, no, she is not being slut shammed. No one’s mad she had sex with Harry or even that she got paid for telling her side of the story. We’re mad bc she is saying that Harry invaded her privacy when no one knew it was her she until she told us it was her. She’s purposely feeding into the abusive smear by the tabloids against the Sussexes. She could have chosen to tell her story without that part. Want to talk about slut-shaming? The tabs are one of the most misogynistic and slut-shaming institutions out there.
I hate this story. He didn’t out her. She wanted the attention, and since he didn’t name her, she colluded with the British media to get her 15 minutes. So gross.
Yes, absolutely vile. She got boffed behind a pub by a prince and she made an obscene amount of money for it. Greedy bitch.
Really don’t get all the outrage here. She probably just figured, “well eventually someone may point the finger at me so I might as well get out in front of it and earn some money from it, like every one else out there does.” I’m sure Harry could care less too. And the whole thing will be yesterday’s news soon enough. It’s not cool how ya’ll are using words like “rump” and “a nobody” when talking about her. She’s just a person with maybe bad judgment maybe not…
If this woman was Black we wouldn’t be reading any excuses for her at all.
Or if she were Meghan.
She IS a nobody, nobody was checking for her or is now, and she’s happy to throw in her lot with scumbags. Whatever. Good for her I guess.
If she said this about William the BM would not have run with the mess.
And Will would even be praised for it.
Part of the outrage is that The Sun is actually sleazy enough to print something like this. Anything negative about Harry or Meghan they are literally frothing at the mouth to print.
She said a lot of her friends knew exactly who he was talking about in the book. So she may have decided it was better to sell her own story rather than have one of them (or someone they told) sell it. She wasn’t salacious or unkind to him, so maybe it’s for the best that she told her story first, rather than trying to correct someone else’s interpretation of what happened.
He told the story first. There’s nothing to correct.
I didn’t say she needs to correct the story he told. I said if one of her friends sold her story, and possibly added some details that weren’t accurate, she might have to correct it. And yes, she has her own story. She’s a person too. You may not like her telling her story, but that’s another issue.
There are plenty of mediums other than the two papers Harry is specifically suing. She chose these two. And that no longer makes it “telling her side” (if indeed she is the woman he slept with). Especially her fanning the flames by pretending he owes her something by him writing something that didn’t even refer to her by name or anything specific.
The difference between Harry wanting to tell his story and this woman is that the people lying about him are saying his name with their whole chests. He never even mentioned her and we don’t even know if she’s lying or not.
Well, she’s in company with Andrew now. Did someone not tell her that having sexual relations with an underage child is rape? Too bad she doesn’t live in the US. She be looking at jail time. She’s looking for money and “fame.” And I hope the money makes up for all the heat she going to have to take. Is she’s a mothet,? Speaks volume to her morals and lord help her kids.
Another publicity stunt for Charles and Camilla and their coronation. Reminds me of the Roman Emperors who, when times were bad and the populace was unhappy, gave the people bread and circuses. Too bad we can’t choose who would be the entertainment at the Colosseum. Anyone for editors and swords?
Are we really equating a youthful consensual romp behind a pub between two teenagers to Prince Andrew??? Seriously?? It was her 19th birthday, Harry was about to to turn 17. 19 year olds aren’t known for their amazing maturity. There’s only a two year age difference. Andrew was in his 40s (?) sleeping with underaged girls where girls were being trafficked to him and it was a whole operation. Not at all the same thing, don’t be ridiculous.
@Amelie And your certain she’s telling the truth?.Were you there?
@Patricia: Even if she’s lying, Harry did not describe the encounter as anything other than consensual. He was worried about the press finding out and turning it into a circus, but he did not describe it as sexual assault and neither did she (if she is telling the truth). Bringing Prince Andrew into Harry losing his virginity consensually to a girl (because that’s what she was) two years older than him is the biggest reach I’ve ever seen. That’s what I have an issue with.
Virginia was trafficked by two criminals. She and Andrew did not “meet up” at a pub. They met up in one of Epstein’s homes and Gislaine was there. If Andrew felt he was not guilty, why would he pay millions or have his mother pay millions to a woman he claimed he “never met.”
She’s outed herself for ££££. Everyone has a price and the papers matched hers.
This would have died down eventually and let’s be honest, this isn’t even a patch on Andrew’s friendship with the child trafficker or ‘Sir’ Jimmy Savile and his child abuse and necrophilia.
After reading Rupert Everett’s ridiculousness yesterday, I was reminded of a guy a year ahead of me in high school who “lost” his virginity to several older women. His parents were divorced, his dad lived at a huge condo complex and he used to troll the sauna and pool after school. He was a musician and did the whole skinny jeans and curly hair covering his face thing. It was kinda hilarious. We knew it was true because another guy who lived there was telling us all about how gross rock kid was.
If Harry let several older women think he was their first, I wouldn’t be mad at him.
Harry didn’t name his first (probably for legal reasons) and this woman pulls a “I’m Spartacus” for quick fame and cash. I get with the cost of living crisis in the UK she took the money; but if you are going to claim you were physically intimate with a famous person, especially a royal, you have to do better than a birthday card and a Muppet. Bring receipts: an unaltered sex tape, Monica Lewinsky like DNA evidence, or a 20 year old son or daughter Harry needs to meet. The tabloids tried to get Harry to comment, and he has not confirmed or denied. Now this woman looks like a fame seeking liar.
Eh whatever. Nothing she said sounded badly til Eden grabbed onto it to make some hypocrisy point.
Something getting lost with this story is that Harry didn’t just put this in the book for fun…when Marko called him in to explain himself, he thought he had to come clean about the situation because the paps had caught him but it was for a bullshit drug story instead. Harry didn’t mention her because she was by and large irrelevant to the point he was making. Maureen Eden is mad because Harry is owning his story and he’s taken the sting out of their world exclusives. Shame on them all. As for Ms Walpole, she outed herself for no reason, and I hope the 20 pieces of silver was worth it and any future harassment that comes her way.
I don’t believe her. If the book teaches anything you don’t already know, the papers lie and will pay people to lie.
And next she will sue him. Just like that jackass boyfriend of Belle De Jour
For all we know, she was getting texts from friends/former acquaintances asking her about it or maybe she feared one of them would take money from one of the tabloids and out her. It’s her story, I don’t blame her for her wanting to take control of the narrative and to be paid for her own story. Of course, there’s also the possibility she just needed the money and figured 15 minutes of fame would be worth it. If she did this willingly without worrying about it leaking, that’s on her and she will forever be linked to this if anyone googles her. She basically corroborates Harry’s version of events. I would be annoyed in her shoes to see Harry include that in his book, but it’s one of the least shocking things in the book.
I don’t blame Sasha for making money from this story- good for her. I bet she’s getting at least 100k for her story which is nothing to sniff at.
whilst i do acknowledge that tabloids twist words if there’s any truth to what the tabloids are saying are her words: my issue is any suggestion that Harry forced her to out herself when the speculation even before the book was published as to who any older women could be was as broad as Liz Hurley! So she wasn’t on the radar. And even if friends in her circle knew and could sell the story from under her- she could say no comment if she truly didn’t want to give her story (with photo shoot to boot).
If it was her that Harry’s talking about she’s got a fun story & it’s cool to make money from it- just don’t pretend to be a victim & like your privacy was violated when you voluntarily outed yourself. And apparently she’s gone on piers Morgan’s show & suggesting that Harry’s under Meghan’s spell etc.
Like tell your side if you want & own the reasons why. but don’t pretend those few lines in the book which didn’t describe you at all, compelled you to give interviews & forced you to comment on relationship of someone you haven’t spoken to in years. Everyone knows piers Morgan’s agenda when it comes to the Sussexes so going on that show & allegedly commenting on Harry’s marriage- you can’t claim innocence.
Co-sign all of this.
“She basically corroborates Harry’s version of events.”
FYI The britishshidtrtags count on the fact that a sucker is born every minute; that by and large, the brits and anyone else who has been fed on the diet of shidt that britshidtmedia shidts out every day for all these many years, will fall into the old habit of taking what they say at face value and fail to apply critical thinking skills.
PS: Thats assuming that anyone who reads and/or believes anything coming from britshidtrags can be accused of having critical thinking skills.
@Amelie, she was getting texts from friends who knew it was her, one of the papers published screenshots of them. But if she’s close enough to these people that she’s still friends with them decades later and she texts with them, it sounds like they’re actual *friends* and I doubt she’d be afraid they’d run to the press to sell her out.
Imagine being so thirsty, tacky and greedy for five minutes of fame that you would turn your world and that of your family upside down . Like seriously, he didn’t name her and for all we know it’s still not her so why do this ? Dumb ass B
She came forward because of 63 words in “Spare” written in a larger context???
She was paid for being equally tacky, not unlike the sadists of Fleet Street.
Then read that Vine person’s column and discover that she’s is what they think Harry deserved.
One cannot underestimate the jealousy towards the Sussexes for their incredible emotional connection, from this woman.
Being an acceptable syncopant to her editor and the owner of the tabloid, has embolden her to write about Harry is if he was hers to guide or ridicule.
He, a Prince by birth, should have only cultivated friendships with the hired hand and chosen a wife from that category. Why????
The bitterness, etc. oozing from that particular ‘class’ is laid bare for all, since he decided to write his memoir and share his recollection on his own terms.
This opportunity had eluded Harry since he was an unprotected boy from the age 14 ;from some in Fleet Street when many editors had their ‘run’ at him.
There is clearly a reluctance to give up that abusive ‘power’ to the point of ridiculousness.
An exclusive because of 63 words in a 400 page book????!!
What was wiped out from the front pages for this dross?
It replaced the substance-less campaign from the Princess of Wales, once again proving Prince Harry’s point in Spare, the book.
Not to mention a new PR hire to amp up the noise of more of the same old.
She is from the private sector, in the employ of Jamie Oliver.
The person she is replacing lasted 2 1/2 years.
No word on staff retention? or lack thereof……
This, Well Wisher!! This is the royal family using Harry — yet again — to distract from unfavorable commentary on Shaping Us and Charles’ expensive coronation plans.
For that reason, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone in William or Charles’ office connected Sasha to the tabloids.
My first reaction to this was “ okay then”. Barely thought of this passage, she says it’s her, so now what? Just distraction and the press wanting a gotcha. Not sure if this is a big deal, apart from being paid by the tabloids. Good for her I guess. I will say though that teenage/young man Harry was constantly hounded by the tabloids in a way that was not remotely acceptable. The way they used him was exploitative and just wrong to go after a minor.The fact his father was complicit in this press invasion of his youngest child at the time is absolutely negligent and unethical.
It was a blink-and-you-miss-it moment in the book. I remember thinking “well, didn’t really need to know that, but whatever.” I felt like it was just part of Harry’s overall portrayal of life then as sort of chaotic, with a lot of important years and moments passing by while he was still in an emotional fog from unprocessed grief and trauma.
I had no idea who she was and didn’t care. Now I know and I guess she has a nice little check. I don’t really blame her for taking it. Nor do I fault her for sleeping with a minor if she was only 19 herself. It might be statutorily illegal but come on, that’s not immoral or taking advantage. They were both drunk teens. Maybe she was dealing with her own s**t, too.
The age of consent in UK is 16.
OK, so it was above-board in every way. I think the age of consent might be older in some states in the US. At least, some states have rules that the older party has to be within a certain age difference of the younger one, and anything beyond makes it technically illegal.
I only meant they were both teen agers. No one did anything wrong and no one should be outraged. I doubt many people even care at all. Eden is grasping at straws.
Harry was truthful and a perfect gentleman in describing this romp. He was 16. And an older woman (older than 16!) who liked horses would probably be about 80 percent of the English female population. She totally outed herself and blamed Harry for outing her. Truly crazy. And yes, she made PLENTY of bank on this. It was HER bargain to trade her privacy for money. Her choice, NOT Harry’s.
If you conssider talking about sex as “mounting”someone and comparing you both to horses as gentlemanly, then ok.
LOL … maybe he didn’t remember her name?
They were friends for 2 and a half yrs so he should know her name. Until he ghosted her after this happened.
Nice try, Ryan.
I couldn’t pick out from a police lineup some of my casual friends from my teen years, let alone remember their names. We traveled as a pack those days. We went to each other’s birthday parties and rode bikes (not horses). But I’ve kept in touch with one person from that friend group.
Harry was 16. He was surrounded by people. I doubt he and Sasha were that close.
Please Ryan do tell us of all the 20-30 friends u had as a young royal teen in London that u had and all their names and that you’ve still been the tightest buddies since
Nice try what? If you can’t remember relatively long term friends names I can’t help you, whether you stayed in touch or not.
Where did he say they were friends for 2 1/2 years? And how do you know why they didn’t see each other afterward? Also don’t see in the excerpt where he described “mounting” anybody. Or where he compared HER to a horse. He said she treated him like one.
He said “I mounted her quickly.” that is a direct quote. The knowing each other as part of a large group for 21/2 yrs was from her.
Imagine if she got pregnant by him.
Madonna, she didn’t, so why are you bringing this up?
Let’s make a 30 sec audio book clip grosser
LOL. She didn’t, but nice try, Madonna.
Had Harry written that this was the best five minutes of his life I would understand this person coming out cigarette in hand to claim it was her, but the way it’s written, it seems in retrospect he’s disgusted with himself. The one reason I can think of that she would put a face to this story is because someone else who knew about it was going to sell the story and she figured she would cash in.
The facts are on her 19th birthday she had sex with a 16 year old who had a crush on one of her friends and never heard from him again. That had to make her 19 year old self feel some kind of way.
She has a husband whose mates are going to tease, same with her children. If she has daughters some boy is going to try to see if like mother like daughter. Even if it was her and someone sold the story all she had to do was deny, deny, deny.
“Had Harry written that this was the best five minutes of his life I would understand this person coming out cigarette in hand to claim it was her”
And he has the audacity to say he needs electric shock therapy after watching Meghan’s love scenes in Suits. I think Meghan is the one who needs that after reading these stories.
Right?! What’s good for the goose is not good for the gander apparently. I thought was he really that bothered by those love scenes from Suits? Gotta say young Harry wasn’t exactly what you’d call traditionally handsome and a bit of a mess.
I do have some actor friends and they do say that watching ur partner in their own sex scenes does give them the jealous or the squicks. I took that book passage as Harry regretting watching her make out scenes and not judging her for them
It’s gross that she sold this story to the Sun, one of the email hackers. And no, she didn’t have to come forward, but she wanted the attention and the money. Reminds me of the movie Annie, when a reward was offered for Annie’s parents, and all the fakes came forward.
Yeah, I’m only surprised that MORE women haven’t come forward claiming it was them.
Why would she do this to her kids? Whether you believe her or not (currently in the not camp) it’s such a tacky thing to do. She’s has opened her family up to harassment and for what?
Hard eye roll. Cue the “invasion of privacy” lawsuit.
No one outed her, claiming otherwise is dishonest. Seems to me she saw a chance to make some cash and went for it- hope they paid her enough to put up with the bullying and the abuse once her 60 seconds of fame are over.
What are the laws in UK? Did she just admit to statuary rape ? 😳
The outrage is baffling to me but I suspect some of it stems from the fact that she is just so average – like if it HAD been Elizabeth Hurley we wouldn’t be so mad about it (though that age difference would be ick). If she were famous or glamorous or beautiful I think this comment section would be different .
BlessYourHeart, yes, if it was a much older woman, the comments would be different. I don’t care how famous they are, that would really bad. Of course, I’m American so it’s possible that we view things very differently, but that would never get a pass from me. I don’t care how drunk the woman was.
That’s some rough looking chick.
Most OBVIOUS case of a humble brag…EVER.😂🤣😂🤣
I suspect a meal at a very good restaurant, alcohol and promises were involved. It’s blackmail.
I literally didn’t even remember this passage until she opened her mouth to the tabloids. How embarrassing for her. It’s honestly kind of gross that she went into this much detail, true or not.
Harry did not name her but the media was looking for her and we’re being an annoyance to other women’s lives. Her coming out brought an end to the media hunt. That is why I do not blame her. She had kept Harry’s secret from the media for twenty years and only revealed it when he mentioned the encounter in his memoir and women like Liz Hurley had to deny the encounter. I would give her a break.
I agree with you!
So you are giving her a pat on the back? Ok, fine but she shouldn’t whine about her privacy. She didn’t have to “save” Liz Hurley or anyone else from the press, that was her choice. And someone up thread said she was on Piers show too? That automatically makes her suspect in my book.
Her running to the media caused more harry bashing by Wootton for instance. She enables harry bashing shame on her.
The Willingness to give white woman the benefit of the doubt all the time on here it happens with Kate and it happens with this woman who by the way Harry didn’t name. Gave the most generic descriptions she was older and like horses no one outside of the Karen’s and daily mail and the sun were checking for her . She willing sat down with a tabloid the gutter press two magazine that have been sued by Harry and Meghan. What exactly was the point but to get her 15 minutes of fame and bit of cash to me she sounds salty that Harry didn’t mention her name . Her privacy wasn’t not invaded her pictures weren’t splash all over the news her kids were not being harass so what exactly was her motive another to brag she slept with Harry .
TACKY. I would be mortified to have my picture on that ridiculous cover with that trashy text… she comes across as an ass on all levels here.
Same. No amount of money could get me to do what she did
QUOTE CONTRARY, My first thought was “, check all phones connected to William and Kate, let’s face it Billy bully and botox barbie won’t be happy that botox barbies Shaping Us is falling flat on its arse, so is Billy Bullys earth sht come to that! So what better way to big themselves up again than to aim more bad (or so they think) press at Harry. Deflect away from them failing and onto Harry. Because let’s face it, the one person Harry MIGHT have told is William as his older brother
What the hell is the UK doing to white women? She looks no less than 56.
Mary Pester, you might be right. And Lily, the woman could still have ignored the press or denied it (as Liz Hurley did when people pointed at her). It’s not like she’s in the public eye. She operates machinery somewhere in England. I still think she admitted it or went seeking the tabloids for money and maybe a bit of fame.
Is that really her and is she really 40? Something seems off.
Hahaha, the sour and desperate British tabloids keep trying to smear Harry’s book, but the effect is they only help to increase his book sales.
With these non-stories the British press are clearly diverting the public’s attention away from the real political and deep economic crisis in Britain.
If only Murdoch had the same guts to smear his recent divorce similarly in his own tabloids and on his news channels. THAT would be actual news and hopefully an eyeopener for him!
It doesn’t matter who Harry had sex with. But I think there is a possibility that this woman is… not well. It’s the kind of thing people have delusions about very often.
The woman needs to pick a lane. She can’t be offended AND brag that it’s her that was completely kept anon in the book (which I would NOT be surprised to find out that it is not her).
The only thing I have to say-she knew she has a husband and two children and did not give a damn before opening her mouth-she did not think before she vomitted on the public-I read this event in the book and did not think anything about it but a young lad sowing wild oats. Anything rains down on her family -she’s the blame-nobody knew who she was.