Shelley Duvall on her career: you weren’t paid much… they thought women would just marry


Shelley Duvall is making a comeback. Not sure the average age of the person reading this post, but if you are close to my age, that opening line made you smile. I love her. Arguably her best known roles were as Jack Torrance’s wife in The Shining and Olive Oyl in the live-action Popeye with Robin Williams. But she appeared in so many movies I loved, like Roxanne and Time Bandits. It seemed like you could always count on Shelley popping up somewhere and then all of a sudden, she was gone. But Shelley is appearing in her first film in 20 years, The Forest Hills, that opens March 11. She told People why she left Hollywood for two decades and what made her come back. Although there have been many stories about Shelley’s health, both mental and physical, the truth is much simpler: she left to be with ailing family and came back because she loves acting.

For the past two decades, Duvall, 73, has been quietly living in the area, where she’s a regular at most establishments. While many locals know her, some may be surprised to learn that the gray-haired woman who often breaks into song while speaking is an iconic actress from the ’70s and ’80s who showed off her impressive range and quirky style in classic films including Woody Allen’s Annie Hall, Robert Altman’s Popeye and Stanley Kubrick’s The Shining. After acting in more than 20 movies and producing several TV shows, Duvall decided to step away from Hollywood in 2002 and retire in Central Texas.

Duvall’s long disappearance from Hollywood sparked speculation about her mental health over the years. But in person she’s sharp, earthy, a bit eccentric and sometimes emotional as she looks back on her unique career. (She asks to do the interview from her SUV, since an injured foot makes it difficult to walk.)

Despite working with Hollywood giants, she didn’t always find the acting life easy or profitable. “You didn’t get paid much—just scale plus 10 percent,” she says. “They thought women would just marry and the husband’s going to support them. But that doesn’t happen for everybody.” Duvall has been in a decades-long relationship but declines to discuss her current or past loves, who have included Paul Simon and Ringo Starr. During the interview she is reminded of a song—-Supertramp’s “Even in the Quietest Moments”—and asks to play it. As the music swells, tears stream down her face. She wipes them away and smiles. “It’s the first time I’ve heard the song since a certain boyfriend,” she explains.

For the most part Duvall is happy to walk down memory lane. And whenever she stumbles across her films on TV, she’ll stop and watch. “On one channel there is Popeye and another one The Shining. Boy, those are two different films,” she says. “But in a way it’s like, ‘Gosh, I was great.’ ”

In the ’90s her movie offers began to dwindle. When her brother was diagnosed with spinal cancer, she packed up and moved back to Texas. “It’s the longest sabbatical I ever took,” she says, “but it was for really important reasons—to get in touch with my family again.”

Duvall says she enjoyed getting back in front of the camera and hopes to continue acting. “[Jessica Tandy] won an Oscar when she was 80. I can still win,” she says with a wink and a laugh. But first she’s off to place another order. “Let’s go to Dairy Queen and get ourselves some decadent desserts.”

[From People]

The Forest Hill is an indie horror film that will premiere in Kevin Smith’s Smodcastle Cinemas in New Jersey. Technically Shelley’s start was in comedy with Brewster McCloud and Annie Hall, but she is so closely associated with The Shining, it feels like she’s returning to her roots, and I love that. But she can do anything. She and Sissy Spacek were mesmerizing in 3 Women. The point is, I am glad she’s decided to come back, emphasis on the ‘decided’ part. In the discussion about Shelley’s departure on social media not long ago, people completely discounted her talent. I’m not a huge fan of mental health speculation in general, but the physical comments that accompanied it were puerile and cruel. I can’t wait for people to rediscover her.

As for the pay discussion, we’ve heard this before but it rarely sinks in. Like Geoffrey Owens bagging groceries or Sydney Sweeny admitting recently she couldn’t go six months without work. When you think about all the bs actors have to put up with for their profession, only to find out most are just scraping by, you figure they have to really love it. Or at least some part of it. Hopefully things are different than they were in the 80s. Hopefully a woman of Shelley’s experience will be compensated for what she adds to the project and not the assumption that her partner will support her. *smacks head* My gawd, we still have so much to answer for.

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  1. MoBiMom says:

    Oh my gosh…. I loved Three Women so much. You are so right, she and Sissy Spacek were mesmerizing. I haven’t thought about that movie in years!

  2. Frippery says:

    I’m definitely showing all y’all my age but I always associate her with Faerie Tale Theater.

    And I am glad that people can more readily share their experiences and hardships, that they don’t need to wait 50 years and write a tell all memoir later in life, but it really makes you wonder why anyone in their right mind would become an actress these days with all we know.

    • ama1977 says:

      Ugh, so much this. I have a ten year-old who is bright as a star and is a really talented singer, in addition to being quite the witty budding auteur (so many hilarious iMovies!!) but all of my protective impulses scream that show-business is harmful and a bad place for women and girls. I want her to be happy and to follow her passions, but I need her to be safe.

    • Margot says:

      Yes! We used to get the videos out from the library! I really loved Rapunzel but the whole series was excellent!

  3. tealily says:

    Who remembers Mother Goose Rock ‘n’ Rhyme?? Love her! She’s one of those people I just have warm feelings for. Wishing her the best!

  4. HeyKay says:

    After learning how SD was treated/tortured by Kubrick during The Shining, IMO, she deserves a huge settlement from Kubricks estate or Jack for standing by and doing nothing.

    I like SD, and hope she enjoys herself and is happy.

    Btw, the wage situation is still the same for many, many people. And that BS attitude of “get married” is still in effect. Divorced, single parents, or single females are still under paid in many jobs.

  5. Emily_C says:

    I remember her best for Faerie Tale Theatre. I love that show still.

  6. SpankyB says:

    I loved her and Robin in Popeye so much. VCRs and renting movies were just becoming popular and I rented Popeye over and over again.

    In the late 80’s I worked for a company that had a husband and wife working. Wife had her job first and she later got her husband his job. Once the husband got the job one of the owners (there were 3, all were old men) didn’t understand why they had to continue to pay the wife when they could just pay the husband. Apparently he thought she work for free and just be supported by her husband.

  7. Blueskies says:

    Ah, just the mere mention of Time Bandits makes me smile, one of my all-time favourite films. Shelley has a small but great part in it. She was absolutely note perfect as Olive Oyl, luminescent. She and Robin were wonderful together.
    I’m very happy she’s back and working on her terms.

  8. Fender says:

    So unique and talented