Prince William ‘remains incandescent’ over Harry stating that he’s owed an apology

In January, Prince Harry made his terms perfectly clear in several interviews to promote Spare. His terms for any reconciliation with his family included a sit-down meeting and an apology to both Harry and Meghan for how they’ve been treated. That’s it. Those are Harry’s terms, plainly and directly said. Since then, Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace have been openly briefing against Harry and freaking out over every little thing about Harry’s possible attendance at the coronation. Keep in mind, according to Omid Scobie’s sources, the Sussexes still haven’t received an invitation, and I personally don’t believe that King Charles has called his younger son either. Basically, the Windsors are throwing daily tantrums about Harry’s attendance and spinning these bonkers conspiracies and scenarios, all while they refuse to actually INVITE Harry. Well, Becky English at the Daily Mail got another “exclusive” and wouldn’t you know, they’ve turned “Harry wants an apology” into another screed about William’s incandescent rage and Charles being a dogsh-t father. Only this is supposed to be critical of… Harry.

No Apologies: King Charles and the Prince of Wales have no intention of giving Prince Harry the apology he is demanding from them if he is to attend the Coronation. Neither Charles nor William is said to be in any mood to pander to Harry’s demands following his latest attacks on the Royal Family. Some sources sympathetic to the royals’ predicament have described the situation as a ‘toxic stalemate’. ‘There is still a huge amount of ill will boiling over in the family,’ one said.

Open invitation: As the Mail reported last year, Harry, 38, has long had an ‘open’ invitation to all family events as a member of the Royal Family, despite having quit official duties. That olive branch is still there, although it has been stretched to the limit by his and wife Meghan’s repeated attacks on the family via their Netflix documentary series, Harry’s memoir and numerous critical television and print interviews.

Derisive towards Omid Scobie: One journalist with close links to the Sussexes, Omid Scobie, claimed this week that ‘no-one knows their plans right now – the couple has yet to be invited and can’t make a decision, nor any form of itinerary, until that happens’. But those with knowledge of the Coronation’s planning have greeted this claim with snorts of derision, and describe it as ‘the Sussexes’ classic get-out clause… As if a piece of gold-embossed card would change everything,’ one said. ‘The problem goes far, far deeper than that.’

A source literally repeats what Harry said on-camera: One well-placed source says Harry has made it clear that he wants a private ‘apology’ of some sort from both Charles and William before he will attend. There is no mention of Meghan, but as their son, Archie, celebrates his fourth birthday on the same day, there is an assumption by many that she is unlikely to go to Westminster Abbey for the Coronation anyway. The idea of an apology is something Harry has raised publicly, when he told ITV’s Tom Bradby in an interview that ‘the ball is in their court’.

No conversations: The Mail has been told that King Charles, 74, is at least prepared to speak to Harry – ‘he’s his son, he loves him’, a friend declared. But William, 40, is said to be emphatically ‘not in the mood for any kind of conversation’. And Harry’s private insistence that he and his wife are owed an apology before any rapprochement can begin has become a major sticking point for both the King and his elder son. ‘What are the family meant to apologise for?’ one insider asked. ‘As the late Queen said, recollections may vary.’

William remains incandescent: Another source said it was likely there would be conversations between the two camps in the coming weeks over arrangements for May. But they warned: ‘I don’t think His Majesty is minded to apologise for anything at present. Quite the opposite. There is still a huge amount of ill will boiling over in the family. Conversations could still happen in the next few weeks [over the Sussexes’ attendance], I am sure, but they will be waiting a very long time for an apology. There’s a great deal of hurt [at Harry’s actions].’ Another family friend added: ‘I hear that William has no intention whatsoever of apologising and remains incandescent, especially around the way his wife, the Princess of Wales, has been treated.’

William won’t even look at Harry: ‘The relationship isn’t even rock bottom now, it’s non-existent,’ the source said. ‘And I just don’t see, if Harry were to come to the Coronation, how William could even bring himself to look his brother in the face.’

[From The Daily Mail]

I get the impression that Charles and William have just been sitting and stewing about Harry’s early-January interviews for seven weeks now, and they’re constantly getting mad about Harry’s words all over again every single day. Like, I know Harry’s directness made them uncomfortable, I know Harry’s insistence that the Windsors mistreated him and Meghan has made everyone incandescent with rage, but this just reads like Charles and William are struggling and failing to regain power, control and the upper hand. Is it really that simple? It might be – they’re two weak men trying to convince everyone (mostly themselves) that they still have control of the narrative, that Harry will do whatever they say, that Harry is dying to reconcile by any means necessary, etc. Pathetic. William absolutely sits around all day, every day, screaming into a pillow and punching walls because Harry said “they should apologize to me and my wife.”

This passage makes zero sense: “But those with knowledge of the Coronation’s planning have greeted this claim with snorts of derision, and describe it as ‘the Sussexes’ classic get-out clause… As if a piece of gold-embossed card would change everything,’ one said. ‘The problem goes far, far deeper than that.’” The Chubbly planners – who have not sent an invitation to the Sussexes yet – are derisively snorting at Omid Scobie for saying that the Sussexes haven’t received their invitations yet and they won’t make their decision until they receive them. It’s not so much the Sussexes’ “get out clause” as the Sussexes… not making up their minds until they’re actually invited? These people are so f–king stupid.

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  1. HeyKay says:

    Has William been “incandescent with rage” since early Nov. 2022?
    Seems so.

    • Snuffles says:

      William has been incandescent with rage since the day Harry was born and he realized he had to share Mummy with him.

      • Lorelei says:

        It must be a real tug-of-war in William’s head right now…who is he more enraged at, Harry or Camilla? So much rage, so little time.

        I feel like we’re due for a piece from that idiot Wootton soon, and that may give us some insight as to where Bill is focusing his incandescence at the moment.

      • Alice says:

        According to some staff memoirs William has been incandescent since birth.

      • Becks1 says:

        Yup. This is clearly his default mode.

      • Elizabeth Phillips says:

        How has William not had a stroke yet?

      • Lily says:

        Elizabeth, your comment made me chuckle. My mother is a narcissist, a grudge holder, and a rager. Her rages can last four to six hours followed by a silent treatment just so that you know she is really mad. My mother is in her mid-seventies and finally has to contain her rages because the last two sent her to the hospital with strokes. It would be so ironic if the thing that drove her two children away from her is the same thing that ended up killing her.

        William needs to watch his incandescent rages. They might do him in one day.

      • Elizabeth Phillips says:

        Yes, which is why I wonder if him being brained with a golf club when he was a kid was payback for bullying.

    • TarteAuCitron says:

      William was quite spoilt and either nobody did anything about it, or they (i.e. Nanny, Diana, others) could not establish the necessary boundaries and discipline, when others were already treating him like a future monarch.

      It is a wonder William hasn’t exploded from the ongoing rage. It is a pity he can’t find a way to channel that more constructively to improve national issues, rather than fuming against his brother on the other side of the world.

      • QuiteContrary says:

        Don’t forget Charles.

        There is video of a young William repeatedly elbowing Charles in the head, and Charles does nothing.

    • Melissa says:

      We might need to chip in for a thesaurus for William. There are other words besides Incandescent.

    • Jen says:

      He really should convert from incandescence to LED if he’s so concerned about the environment.

    • Elizabeth Phillips says:

      Marichendd, the people who think William would be the best option deserve him.

  2. Lucy says:

    A bunch of spoiled narcs deal with boundaries and losing control for the first time in their lives. Film at eleven.

    • Cessily says:

      That is exactly want is happening @lucy. They are also using Prince Harry and his family to gaslight the public and divert attention from Peggy’s affair articles that are resurfacing and the growing list of performers declining invitations to put on a show at the chubbly con-a-nation. The cost of this farce is going to be astronomical for a nation spiraling faster and faster into recession/depression territory the government can’t even keep fresh produce in the stores. It will only be worse by May. So hope they enjoy pandering to these self absorbed raging over entitled jack*sses. The least of all their worries by then will be a much deserved apology to Princess Meghan and Prince Harry. Would love to see the Sussex’s through Archewell donate food and or funds to charities/food banks for Archie’s and Lilibet’s birthdays as a huge FU to all these people.

      • Juanita says:

        His on going affair with Rose has been circulating in the Spanish tabloids. So yes Harry is still the distraction.

    • K8erade says:

      I mean honestly, what else is there to say? Harry has stood up to them and they hate it.

  3. BQM says:

    It’s just the same story day in, day out. Rinse and repeat. The reactions are the same too. Like why even bother to write it at this point?

    • Polo says:

      I was gonna say this is the exact same story they’ve been pedaling. There’s no exclusive here.
      It’s seems like it’s more of a reaction to Scobie than anything else.
      A few days before this daily mail ran and exclusive of all the options Harry and Meghan have.
      What it all means is they have no idea what the Sussexes are doing and they can’t talk about anything else because Harry and Meghan bring clicks so we’ll continue to get these type of stories until they say yes or no.
      Then it will switch to they snubbed us how dare they or how dare they show their face they will be booed.
      Exact same playbook as the jubby.

      • BQM says:

        It’s reminding me of the old tabloid cycle with brangelina. Getting engaged/splitting up/getting married/Angie’s pregnant/they’re adopting/they’re divorcing. Then they’d start over. They figured eventually they’d hit on an actual truth. That’s here now. They’re invited/they’re snubbed/they’re coming/they’re not coming. Eventually they’ll get it right but we’ll just be bored in the meantime.

    • MsIam says:

      My thoughts exactly. I honestly didn’t bother to read the article, I just saw incandescent and its like, “snore”. Combine this with the overall cringe of Chuck and Cam’s big hat party and its like, next. I think its going to be a “no” from the Sussexes anyway. I’m sure they’ll need to pick lemons from their lemon tree that day or something.

  4. Marichendd says:

    Re: “William has no intention whatsoever of apologising and remains incandescent, especially around the way his wife, the Princess of Wales, has been treated.”
    Yeah, right. Like he gives a flying monkey about anything regarding KKKhate… 🙂
    Goodness, they are pathetic…
    Having said that, if you take a peek in discussions under UK tabloid articles online, people are FURIOUS about all the pomp of the upcoming coronation amid cost-of-living crisis (good news). However, they see William becoming the king asap as a solution (bad news).
    Oh, well…

    • Lucy says:

      I can believe he cares about how Kate is treated, but only because he sees her as an extension of him. To him, it’s more like, how dare MY wife be treated like that, vs, how dare they treat my WIFE that way.

      He’s not actually mad in her behalf, he’s insulted that his magic Royal ness is not being respected.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Lucy, I agree with you, this is exactly it. Which probably causes Will all sorts of extra frustration…he kind of has to pretend to be mad for the reasons you explained, but deep down, he cannot stand Kate, so— IDK, what a miserable existence those two have. Whew.

      • Kingston says:

        I see it another way. Follow me:……

        …..bearing in mind that its always “opposite day” in those musty old death-crypts known as palaces, I see the usual “operation put the biracial upstart in her place” at work here: BullyBoyWilly is not enraged on kkk8’s behalf, he’s enraged AT kkk8 for not only failing in a task, but also making the monumental mistake of revealing fear and apprehension in carrying out said task, thereby allowing H and especially M to see kkk8’s fear & to write about it in his book. And, of course, BullyBoyWilly sees that as a personal attack.

        So what was this task that kkk8 failed at?

        If you recall, H described kkk8 as “gripping the back of the chair so hard, her knuckles became white.” That was in a scene where Bully & kkk8 had gone over to Knot Cot to confront H&M about some grievances the Wails’ had had with the Sussexes, inter alia: M’s “baby-brain” comment and the lack of Easter gifts.

        I believe there were conversations and instructions/orders given to kkk8 to assert herself and not allow M to think that she was the equal of kkk8; not to become “friends” but to ensure that M knows always, that she is ranked below kkk8.

        BullyBoyWilly’s incandescence around “the way his wife has been treated” is meant to be translated and read thus: he’s mad at kkk8 and prolly has been abusing her daily for her failure, as depicted in the book, to carry out this task successfully. Not only did M, in her explanation of what “baby brain” meant, reveal kkk8’s ignorance, but if I recall correctly, M had at first laughed a bit on hearing the ‘sin’ that she was supposed to have committed. But then she apologised…… readily and amusedly that it rankled the Wails’. M was not chastised. She & H must have looked at themselves with amusement that the Wails considered that remark an insult.

        Hence, BullyBoyWilly’s incandescence.

      • HamsterJam says:

        @Kingston : I think he’s mad because the half-race american actress told him to take his finger out of her face.

        Every single one of those kids have been photographed with the royal finger in the face

        Can we all just agree anyone putting their finger in someones face is doing a crap job of getting their point across?

    • Harper says:

      I’m trying to figure out why Burger King, who can’t speak to or smile at his wife in public, who doesn’t even flinch when she trips next to him, is upset about Kate’s portrayal in Spare. It must be that Will is upset that despite being a scheming, violent, rage-aholic, Harry still refused to be intimidated and went ahead and detailed what a cold fish Kate was behind the scenes. It is probably an existential crisis for Burger King: if all that yelling and finger pointing and dog bowl breaking and Jason Knauf knifing in the back behavior makes zero difference, then who is he really?

  5. Jais says:

    Lordy, I swear they just want to goad the Sussexes into saying something about their attendance so that they can then say oh yeah well you weren’t even invited. Where’s your gold-embossed invite?! This sounds like a trap. Also Charles is prepared to speak to Harry? He is prepared? So then why doesn’t he just do it? Omg, what a stunted man-baby. They probably haven’t even spoken since the funeral. Crazy.

    • equality says:

      He is prepared to speak to Harry if Harry is the one who calls and apologizes. He doesn’t see himself as wrong any more than William does. Those who are first-born can do no wrong.

    • Rapunzel says:

      I said similar about the invite stuff below. And Charles is clearly not interested in talking to Harry. Otherwise, he would have and we’d have heard all about it.

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      Sounds like they’re not sending them an invitation. If the Sussexes show up in response to this so-called “open” invitation, they can then be berated for months for coming without being invited. Heads we win, tails you lose. It’s all a set up to further marginalize H&M.

  6. Slush says:

    Granted, I am not in PR, but I just can’t imagine this is the best way to go about it for William?

    Even if he is still livid, might it be a better look to play that down? Something more like “William remains heartbroken that he and his brother don’t see eye to eye on the issues.” Makes him sounds less like a spoiled child having a temper tantrum.

    Anyway, as usual these people can’t find their a** with both hands, even when PR and image management is the whole job, which continues to surprise me even when it shouldn’t.

    • Lorelei says:

      @Slush, I’m right there with you. It’s mind-boggling to me, but by now it’s apparent that William does in fact think this is the better look. Why he hasn’t been overruled by the courtiers who actually run the show is beyond me. There is nothing appealing or reassuring about someone in a constant state of rage, and it certainly doesn’t indicate that he has what it takes to be a good leader.

      William is so pathetic and backward-thinking that he likely believes expressing sadness or even regret over what has become of his relationship with his only brother would make him look “weak,” and that appearing angry gives the appearance of being “tough” or some such nonsense. He’s very Trumpian, imo. I doubt that William has ever apologized to anyone in his life for anything, ever. And he’s definitely not about to start with Harry, who he views as inferior to him in every way. What a twisted way to think and live.

      • Slush says:

        “I doubt that William has ever apologized to anyone in his life for anything, ever.”

        This to me is one of the biggest issues with monarchy. They are literally creating sociopaths in these heirs, and to a lesser extent everyone else in the line (see also: Andrew)

        If you are, by definition, above everyone else, you will never be challenged or made to feel anything but right and royal, you will grow up to be a bad person.

    • Jojo says:

      I’ve got to agree with you about the PR fail @SLUSH but you’re looking at this from a sane person’s perspective not an egotistic, spoilt brat, control freak’s perspective.

      To you & me the sentence “William remains heartbroken that he and his brother don’t see eye to eye on the issues.” sounds normal, reasonable understandable. To William and his ilk it will sound soft, unmanly, ‘woke’, emotional. ‘Incandescent with rage (for 3+ months 🙄) & a blatant refusal to communicate’ sounds unhinged & childish to most sane adults. However, it will sound masculine, ‘alpha’, in control and commanding to a man who thinks his word/viewpoint/world view is always correct and everyone should be capitulating to him regardless of the circumstances.

      These arrogant people (W&C) don’t think they should have to respect any boundaries set by other people, especially not someone they have viewed as ‘less than’ his entire life. They should both just be left to stagnate & rot in their respective gilded, delusional ‘royal heir’ bubbles.

      I see @LORELEI has said more or less the same thing as I was typing this out. 👍

    • SarahCS says:

      These people have the PR instincts of mud. They believe they are always in the right and no-one is allowed to criticise them. Seen this way all their actions make sense (with this warped definition of ‘sense’).

  7. Rapunzel says:

    Them trying to say an invitation doesn’t matter when this event is invitation only is…. mind-bogglingly dumb. It’s not a get out clause to not RSVP to an invitation you haven’t received.

    The coronation planners and Charles are hoping the Sussexes will assume an invite and accept or decline without receiving an official invite. This way, if they decline, it’s not on Charles. And if they accept, they can either let them attend or go, “ha! You’re not invited. How dare you assume you were!”

    • lleepar says:

      This “open invitation” gambit is nonsense. H&M have been told that certain events previously open to them are now restricted to “working royals” only. But now they’re supposed to presume they’re invited to join the family in any ceremony in which the BRF participates? I don’t think so.

      • Jais says:

        Right? The way protocols change left and right depending on whether it’s the white or biracial royals…this open-invitation BS is a joke.

      • Mary says:

        @lleepar, The Sussexes can’t even treat a formal invitation without suspicion. Remember the reception after the Queen’s funeral to which they were invited and then very publicly disinvited because it was a mistake?! Much like what they did to Crown Princess Mary of Denmark….🤡

  8. Brassy Rebel says:

    William remains “incandescent” about the way his wife has been treated. Only William is allowed to mistreat, embarrass, and humiliate his wife. When Harry allegedly does it, the POW flies into a rage.

  9. Rapunzel says:

    If only Willy could use that incandescent rage to heat the homes in the UK and spare everyone massive energy bills.

  10. According to the daily fail, I believe on the 26, he was incandescent with rage that Cowmillas grandkids where participating in coronation without even George being put in it first. Now this again poor Peg is having a rather rough few days. What’s next?

    • Mary Pester says:

      I wonder if it’s because ROSE hasn’t been invited and he hasn’t been able to see her. Poor little peg, NOT

      • Alice says:

        Rose and her husband will be there because of the family’s generational position. The newest flowerpot probably won’t be though.

      • Mary says:

        @alice, not sure about that, I think that position has been switched to the 1/3 title holder of the position.

    • Mary Pester says:

      Alice, maybe I will watch the part where Khate enters the Abbey, just to watch her head swivel like something from the exorcist to try and see how prominent Roses seat is 😅

  11. Mary Pester says:

    JAIS, you are spot on as usual. They have the ultimate insult for Harry and meghan, waiting for them to attend so that they can stop them from entering the Abbey AT THE DOOR, in full view of the media and the crowds (they hope) will be there. The whole bloody UK side of the Royal family and their staff are toxic

    • Jais says:

      Honestly, if they actually stopped them at door, they would look like such assholes. Doesn’t mean they wouldn’t though.

      • lanne says:

        Harry and Meghan would simply nod their heads and leave. I don’t think the ratchets nor the royals understand that the Sussexes don’t give a shit about the protocol and precedence that they all care so much about. Seat them in the cheap seats and they’ll be speaking kindly to the regular folks and taking selfies afterward.

  12. Beekeeper17 says:

    Newsflash… families have conflicts! As adults we try to show some patience and grace for family members while setting boundaries. No one is asking C and W to be locked in a room with the Sussexes for eternity. Show some leadership and diplomacy and do what we all have to do at family events – MAKE NICE! Yeeesh.

  13. Nuks says:

    Incandescent is so blatantly code for abusive screaming and physical acting out. I wish someone would push back on that word, and ask them exactly what it means. Has his incandescence ever sent someone to the hospital? Has he ever been incandescent with his children?

    • SueBarbri33 says:

      They gave away the game last week by using the term “Catatonic” to describe William. That told us all that his rage knows no bounds. We know he’s controlling, we know he’s angry, but the word catatonic shows me that he’s now so angry and put-out by developments that he’s almost stopped functioning completely. DW told us that William is so furious with Harry that he won’t be able to control himself during the coronation, and that’s a BIG allegation against the heir to the throne. They think this makes him look strong, I suppose, but they’re wrong. Having first-hand experience with miserable and violent men, I’m quite certain that his entire household is terrified of him. I have little sympathy for Kate, but a lot of her most-annoying behavior and theme dressing seems designed to please William–which is a trap, because he can’t be pleased. He was primed to hate whomever Harry married, but he hates Meghan the most because she knows how to deal with toxic personalities and didn’t play his game.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Sue, good catch. “Catatonic” really does take it to another level. It’s insane to me that anyone pro-William is pushing this rageaholic angle, not realizing how terrifying it comes across to normal, sane people.

        If my future head of state was consistently described as so full of rage that he was unable to cope with it, I would not have high hopes that this person would be an effective leader. How this isn’t obvious to more people is baffling.

      • Jasper says:

        The use of that word really stood out to me and, if the reports weren’t exaggerated, does not bode well for anyone in his presence nor the future of the monarchy. How those pushing that perspective of him and these stories think that’s a good look for him is mindboggling.

  14. Gabby says:

    Much like the bus in Speed that needs to go a certain MPH to keep from exploding, I think Willie has to remain incandescent to keep from keeling over dead.

    • Persephone says:

      You might have something there @Gabby.
      Also, I’ll ask again — Why does William’s Comms team think “incandescent” is a good look for him??? Why isn’t his team trying to clean this up??
      It’s almost like he is owned by the tabloids…

      • Cecile730 says:

        @Persephone: I think that “incandescent rage” isn’t coming from Will-do-nothing PR team but from Camzilla that try to diminish the fact she is paving the way to her children and grandchildren getting titles.

    • Mary Pester says:

      Hamsterjam, it’s a pity she didn’t tell William (peg) to get his finger out of his arse and grow up.

  15. Digital Unicorn says:

    This story reeks of KP and the press trying to goad the Sussex’s or Chuck into saying something about the Chubbly plans – Chuck has already said that the Sussex’s will be there. There is only ONE couple who does not want them there – the Wails. The Sussex’s being there will mean less media attention on them – it will be all about Chuck and H&M and we know the Wails can’t have that.

    • Lorelei says:

      Even if the Sussexes are not there, the BM still won’t STFU about them, even on the day of this shitshow. Everyone will be analyzing what it means that Harry isn’t there, etc. etc. They’ll probably have a spilt-screen with someone “reporting” from Montecito. They are far too deep into their obsession with the Sussexes to let it go and focus on the actual participants.

  16. Amy Bee says:

    If Charles was really interested in reconciling with Harry he would have called him already. As for William, he doesn’t think he did anything wrong. Harry was to supposed to kowtow to him and abandon his wife and when he didn’t do that he decided to smear him and Meghan in the press. The press likes to talk about Harry and Meghan wanting to be victims but it’s really Charles and William who want to be victims even though they were actually the perpetrators.

  17. girl_ninja says:

    There really are not enough names to describe what a grotesquely sad loser Will is. A violent hateful man with no direction or purpose.

  18. Anna says:

    “That olive branch is still there, although it has been stretched to the limit by his and wife Meghan’s repeated attacks” what?? We haven’t seen or heard from Meghan for AGES. Harry would rather talk about the mental health struggles behind Spare (or his todger) than talk about the BRF. What reality are these people living in??

    And this whole “they should apologize to me and my wife” energy from William is giving “we deserve Easter presents”

  19. Chantal says:

    Is FreeWilly becoming more incandescent the more he realizes how much he really needs Harry? Wms’ incandescence should be able light up every light bulb in this impending fiasco. Should we start calling him Fester? I’m torn bc i like Uncle Fester from the Addams Family…

    Standing invitation to family functions? Aren’t they making the ClownFest about “working” royals? If Meghan and Harry were to attend based only on this standing invitation, they would be accused of gate crashing the event. Any negative publicity, comments, or backlash towards the RF for this expensive tone deaf pity party would be blamed solely on the Sussexes.

    • K8erade says:

      Uncle Fester is sweet, kind, and affable. Let’s not insult a lovable character by comparing him to the Incandescent Prince of Pegs.

    • tamsin says:

      Good grief. A standing invitation to family occasions? A coronation is a state occasion, not a family event. RR will say anything, whether it makes sense or not.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Chantal, ITA, that was my first thought, too. They’re really struggling to make something from nothing here.

  20. HamsterJam says:

    I see this as the scenario that is shaping up.
    1) the media keep bleteing on about the chubbly until one of them gets the cojones to post and actual “Sources say” article claiming that they have declined to attend.

    2) That goes on for a few days as H&M refuse to confirm or deny to the media, I mean honestly is is just a big party, not their place to comment on attending.

    3) Then the slow drum beat of anger starts, the “sussexes are SNUBBING the country” by not attending – hey you average Cecil – those sussuxes are insulting you personally

    4) They will go on like that and will become so ugly and so overshadow the event and they will hope that will make H&M speak to the media like they did before the jublly to return the media to rational discourse, say if they are coming EXCEPT-

    5) They don’t lift a finger this time to help the BM get out of their violent frenzy and the media tone escalates to clarkson levels

    6) Rinse and repeat until the chubbly.

    • Lorelei says:

      @HamsterJam, unfortunately, this sounds entirely plausible.

      I have to hope the frenzy will die down after the Con-A-Nation? I know that the media will still pull the “Will they or won’t they!?” BS with the Sussexes when it comes to things like Christmas, Trooping, etc. — but that will get old fast.

      There happened to be so many high-profile events so close together, starting with Philip’s funeral, then the ceremony unveiling Diana’s statue, then the stupid Jubbly, followed by the Queen’s funeral, and now Crown-Con, so they’ve had a TON of fodder for the constant, breathless “What will the Sussexes do??” coverage, but this should really be the end of it for a while. I hope.

    • Well Wisher says:

      There is a pattern……

  21. lanne says:

    I had this thought this weekend:

    The royals have a big problem that no one in the Uk seems to have articulated yet. Their “Big Chubbly,” arguably the most important ceremony in terms of the transition to a new monarch, and a symbol of the continuity of the royal family, is being defined by who is NOT invited as opposed to who IS invited. The media is gleefully imagining the “snubbing” of the Sussexes, and possibly other public figures who are not ardent Tory-style monarchists.

    So in other words, this coronation is about who ISN’t included, and not about who IS. The story is about exclusion, not inclusion. How on earth does that read? How on earth will that read globally? Already, the UK is in a diminished state in terms of their global reputation: the miseries of Brexit, the loss of a beloved Queen, growing republican sentiments in the realms, along with countries deciding to elect their own heads of state, Harry rolling the curtain back on his and Meghan’s mistreatment, and the role of the media in controlling the royal family. Not to mention an unpopular queen who wants to shove her family in front of the nation, bulldozing over the King’s own son and grandchildren.

    The coronation should be about unity and continuity. not exclusion and “I deserve a big show!” entitlement. This is a chance for the UK to show the world who they are and what they’re about (the point of a big event–if it wasn’t, there would be no coronation at all). Excluding biracial members of the family (and gleefully so) doesn’t look good, and won’t look good in the future. No amount of people of color paraded in the background will matter.
    (And can a POC in the UK invited to the Chubbly really say no? We’ve already seen what happened to Ngozi Fulani when she spoke out about racist treatment–she was subject to even more racist abuse). They are showing themselves to be small-minded, racist, petty. They are the Brexit royal family, cutting off their noses to spite their faces, participating actively in their own dimishment, and wondering why they aren’t loved and woshiped as they feel they deserve to be. They run the risk of becoming laughingstocks.

    • Jais says:

      I mean it would technically be smart to make it about inclusion. At this point, the only inclusion happening is with Camilla’s grandchildren. Well, Charles also does keep saying he is including diverse faiths. But really, the whole concept of monarchy is exclusion. That’s what it’s built on. Yeah, it’d be smart not to draw focus to the exclusionary nature of the monarchy, but they just can’t help themselves. Their identity is built on exclusion.

      • Lorelei says:

        All such good points. But @Jais is right, their entire identity is based on exclusion, and that’s what their base wants to see. I saw lots of comments about “weak, woke Charles” when it was mentioned that he wanted the ceremony to be more diverse. The royalists don’t want that. They WANT to be reassured that the people they worship are just as racist and snobbish as they believe them to be. They don’t want this to be a repeat of H&M’s wedding. They delight in stories about the Sussexes being “snubbed.”

        And at the end of the day, these are the people that Charles needs to keep happy. He’s trying to walk too fine a line, and by doing so, he’s managing to piss EVERYONE off. IMO.

    • Anna says:

      This is an excellent analysis 👏🏼

    • HamsterJam says:

      I always love your analysis and am always confused about how to say your name because of font issues. Are you e f g h Ianne or h i j k lanne?

    • windyriver says:

      I don’t think Camilla cares about being loved. I don’t think it’s part of her nature, but in any event, I think she gave up any possibility of that (at least where the general public is concerned) long ago. She played the PR game to rehabilitate her image, in order to become accepted enough to be in position to get what she wanted – and she’s got it. People are once again remembering why they didn’t like her in the first place, and I doubt she gives a damn.

      Charles on the other hand – his need to be loved has been evident from the history of his jealousy of Diana, and confirmed by Harry in Spare. It’s his Achilles heel. He’s waited 70 years to be the monarch and the recipient of the admiration and reverence directed at his mother. But he’s so blinded by his entitlement, and his resentment that he had to wait so long, that he fails to see: 1) that times have changed; and 2) by the end of her life, reverence for TQ was more of a habit, than anything based on what she was accomplishing. He makes mistake after mistake, and no amount of PR spin will buy him what he wants.

      • Lorelei says:

        @WindyRiver, great comment. Charles wants to be as beloved as his mother was AND to be able to be with Camilla AND for her to be just as beloved, which is never, ever going to happen. He made his choice a long time ago; he chose Camilla over everything else. Maybe he’d deluded himself into thinking he could have it both ways, but if so, the public reaction to the past week’s stories must have been a rude awakening.

        And Camilla is really showing herself for the famewh*re that she is! All of that time and money spent on his decades-long “rehabilitate Camilla” campaign, and if she’d just continued to lay low and keep her mouth shut, it might have been smoother sailing for Charles. But apparently she’s decided to assert herself now, and Charles will need to cope with the fallout. They overplayed their hand, imo. Camilla may have ingratiated herself to the tabloids, but she was only ever tolerated— at best— by the public.

        Seems like C&C overestimated the power of the media in this one respect…it can manipulate public opinion quite a bit, but it was never going to make people forget about Diana and embrace Camilla. And while Camilla may not care what people think, Chuck most certainly does.

        Right now their focus is 100% on their big day, but once that’s over, they might be in for some rough times. And I love that for them.

      • lanne says:

        Great observation about love for the queen being a habit! Marie Antoinette gets a lot of undeserved hate. She didn’t create the system of waste and extravagance that led to the French revolution, and she didn’t deserved to be blamed for it, nor slandered with the “let them eat cake” that she never said.

        Camilla on the other hand is all about herself. She’ll throw anyone under the bus to get what she wants: her husband’s children and grandchildren, her lover’s young wife, any POC who crosses her noxious path. She’s the one who would say “let them eat cake (or turnips)” while trying on the biggest, gaudiest jewels in the vault. She’s a nasty piece of work. I wonder what’s even appealing about her at all. She’s not kind, not well educated, not intelligent (beyond a crafty cunning)–she’s been called “fragrant” and messy, boozy and mean, consorts with the worst people. Not a looker. Maybe she has that dark “Regina George” energy that attracts people–people want to be in her orbit, even though no one particularly likes her (I don’t recall anyone speaking about her with love and respect as a good friend, or an empathetic person). Why her for Charles? Does she see him as an easy tool to manipulate into getting what she wants? What’s the appeal of her for him, or him for her beyond money, power, and influence?

      • Lorelei says:

        @Lanne, I have wondered this for years. Decades! What is Camilla’s appeal? I can come up with precisely nothing. Not one single redeeming quality. You already listed all of the reasons why.

        The Sussex-haters love to talk about how Meghan cast some sort of “spell” on Harry, rendering him unable to think for himself, and being led not by his brain but by his d!ck, but that’s just more projection. Because it’s clear that it’s their own idiotic monarch who’s found himself in that situation.

      • Jais says:

        I think you have to be Jeremy Clarkson or on his level to find any kind of appeal in Camilla. Like she’s that person making mean jokes and people are just happy that they’re included in the joke rather than being the butt of the joke. She’s also a gossip.

      • Kingston says:

        The only card chuckyDaTurd has left to play, regarding getting H to go to the CON-a-Nation is that of sad-aged-father; as in: “Please, boys—don’t
        make my final years a misery.”

        H mentioned in his book at one point that he took a good look at Charles for the first time in years and was struck by how aged he looked. (the same section where he talked about Bully losing his looks etc.) And H seemed very sympathetic towards chuckyDaTurd.

        Now, add this sentiment to the other humanizing ways in which H presented chuckyDaTurd in Spare and you see where I’m going with this……..chuckyDaTurd, being a man of no principles and caring only for himself and his feelings, WILL play the feel-guilty card to H to try to guilt him into attending the Clownation. And, of course, as Salt-and-Pepper, where H goes, M goes.

        I just hope I’m wrong but if I’m on the right track, I hope that H will not allow himself to be guilted into going to shidthole cuntry.

      • Well Wisher says:

        On the contrary , Camilla wants to be loved more than Diana, that’s her problem.
        it is about being top person.

    • equality says:

      Being defined by who isn’t invited and what performers are declining to participate. It’s off to a good start.

  22. Lizzie says:

    Willy was incandescent at the Sandringham summit, prior to any interviews whatsoever, so be honest that it’s not a reaction to Harry ‘trashed’ his family. The anger started when Harry didn’t let William control who he married. Willy expected to dictate all of Harry’s life, his spouse, his work, his home, just everything. This is where Willy’s anger comes from. The man who he considers more of an indentured servant than a sibling has walked away from him and in a spectacular fashion.

  23. Anna says:

    Every day, my hope that H and M won’t attend this mess increases. Please let this chubbly go down like a lead balloon.

  24. Eurydice says:

    Oh for heaven’s sake – invite them or don’t invite them.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Eurydice, I agree. Aren’t they supposed to be sending out invitations soon? This event is just over two months away. I can’t tell whether they are afraid if they send an invitation that the Sussexes will attend or that they won’t. Just do something.

  25. HeyJude says:

    Classic, unhelpable abuser response: “I physically abused you, you owe ME an apology!” William is a deranged, sick man. He should be in intensive psychological treatment not any court. The way he’s going one day his sickness is going to flair and he’s going to hurt someone publicly.

  26. Well Wisher says:

    As Camilla exposed her plans for an all encompassing domination over the women in the UK, parts of it is being met with a resounding ‘No’ by huge swathes of the population.
    Being aligned with a failed tory govern- ment, and tone-deaf to what people expect as they cater to the capitalists – in particular the investors has led to disinterest and apathy from the critical thinkers.
    What to do when this occurred??
    What about diversion and distraction, the idea of their participation does not bode well for traditionalists (not yet a dirty word).
    Even robust bot involvement cannot create a large enough dam to stop the avalanche of disparagement.
    Lots of people are dismayed…..

    What to do??
    Camilla sorted this perfectly, let the incandescent brother lead the first leg of the propaganda.
    He will let people know how much he hates his brother’s successes, and by extension his brother.

    The father being insecure crave total power and control over the only member that is not dependent upon him.
    Yet, all three senior members had unwittingly show their fears, vindictiveness and their lust for punitive outcome for Harry.

    Gaslighting, transference and designer polls are not enough, one can look at Google search trends and observe that Camilla remain firmly at 5 % in and out of the UK.

    What to do??

    Go to what had moderate success in the past, scapegoating.
    Only in this case, William has already been open about his dislike.
    Charles is back to olive branch, he cannot distinguished between Lady Di and her son? same feeling of intense dislike dressed up as gaslighting??

    They cannot/would not apologize because they would have to admit to having wronged the Sussexes, especially Meghan.

    The only thing that matter is who is in charge – Camilla??

    The scapegoat is William, a willing and deserving one.

    While neither present and future monarch refuses to speak to their son and brother respectivly, they expect that he honour their specialness by choosing them over his own family.

    The Sussexes are expected to “💋 their arses” by being happy to be included in family events while being openly snubbed and briefed to a hostile media.

  27. HennyO says:

    Becky and her fellow terribly royal hack writers don’t even see the stupidly of their empty pieces any longer, because they too for 100% believe that W and Ch are right about their pathetic ‘hurt feelings’ and stupid counter attacking briefings against Harry (and Meghan) in general and more so reg this shipwrecking Chubbly. Imagine this ”job” being your career aspirations since decades.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      HennyO, I don’t think they believe that W and C are right, I think they want to shift any and all possible glances from themselves (bm), because they are the ones who decided to smear and engender hate for the Sussexes. They did a bang up job and the Sussexes left. Harry’s book hit way too close to home for them and they want to destroy him for showing their play book to the world.

  28. San Diego says:

    These RR are rewriting history daily. They create a narrative, push it until their readers believe it and that becomes the truth. You notice it’s never about what happened to Harry, it’s always Harry attacking the Royal family. Nobody questions the 5Ws but just take what the royal experts say at face value and repeat it. This is what they mean when they say W&K won, they have most of the media behind them. Honestly this is the only media outlet that questions and calls out the bs.

  29. notasugarhere says:

    ‘I hear that William has no intention whatsoever of apologising and remains incandescent, especially around the way his wife, the Princess of Wales, has been treated.’ So the source was Carol(E). We all know William doesn’t care how Kate is treated, he only cares how he is treated.

  30. Over it says:

    Well if willy won’t even apologize to Katie keen foe not holding her hand I fear to see how he is mad on her behalf and what for u might add? After all its baby brain Katie that was gripping the furniture so tightly hee knuckles were turning white . Perhaps she should apologize to the poor furniture first . It might help her lean to apologize to humans .
    As for Will-I -pegg-a-lot and chucky-the-tampon , I would suggest these two take a deep breath and realize that they are supposed to be the figure heads of countries and the future figure heads and stop letting the rest of the world read how incandescent and childlike you both are. Like for actual sake . How do you expect world leaders to take you seriously when you are walking around with rage for 7 weeks straight. Like grow the f up already and get over yourselves. Harry and Meghan have every right to set boundaries and I agree with them , I won’t even consider not going until I get an actual invitation. Then I can rsvp stick your non apology and invatation where the sun doesn’t shine.

  31. JD says:

    Actions speak louder than words. Now understanding the hell a father put his son through by pulling his son’s family’s security AND funding on the brink of a global pandemic when they were literally hunted… I can’t imagine why they would ever go to an event where this man is celebrated and ascends to a literal throne.

    • solidgold says:

      Harry is still hoping to pay for his own security so he can bring his family back to his country to visit. Chuck holds the cards on Harry’s welfare in England.

  32. Jay says:

    All I’m seeing is an admission that the Windsors haven’t sent the invitations yet, or at least not to the Sussexes! That seems sloppy and disrespectful, quelle surprise.

    Like, obviously the Windsors don’t have anything else going on, but every other person would need to know if they are invited to this event well ahead of time so they can plan. That’s how it works in the real world, Chuck. And if you really are not checking for invitations, half the peerage who feel they have been left out might just show up so better watch it.

  33. K8erade says:

    You ever get the sensation Peggy’s “incandescent” because deep down he knows Harry is telling the truth? This is anger at being exposed.

    • solidgold says:

      Yes, I agree. Will’s anger is his abuse being exposed.

      Sorry, I do not believe Charles or Will care about Harry’s welfare.

  34. Lorelei says:

    @K8terade, 100%. A hit dog hollers, etc. But I don’t think William admits this to himself.

  35. SJ (they/them) says:

    thank you for pointing out the special insanity of that “snorts of derision” bit — just completely unhinged. I can’t even articulate how messed up this is except to say it’s 100% textbook abuser logic. Up is down, inside is outside, sense is nonsense, cause is effect, YOU’RE the crazy unstable one for [checks notes] not having pre-responded correctly to something we haven’t done yet and in fact are intentionally keeping you on tenterhooks about whether we will do or not????

    just, augh, help, jfc

    • SJ (they/them) says:

      and!! P.S. ! every response you could give will be wrong! and your not having responded yet, to something that has not happened, is wrongest of all, the only thing wrong-er will be whatever you do or don’t do later, if and when there is actually something to respond to!

      there is a special kind of calm that comes from realizing that, not only can you never win with people who operate like this, they actually are not thinking about or responding to you at all. they are entirely tied up in their own imagination, you’re not even there.

      There’s a mistake abusers like this make sometimes, where they forget that you have to keep at least a teeny tiny tether to reality going, in order for your victims to stay enmeshed. I take an odd sort of comfort in thinking that Charles and William may have tripped over that line at this point, or may trip over it soon. I hope so much for peace for Harry on this.

  36. AmelieOriginal says:

    I always think of the 5 stages of grief in this scenario. I think Charles is probably in the more depression stage and working his way to acceptance but it seems like William has been stuck at anger for the past 3 years. As for Harry, I think he seems to be at the bargaining stage? In his interviews, he said he was holding hope for a reconciliation and would be sad if that would fail to materialize. As for Meghan, I think she accepted the situation a long time ago but is waiting for Harry to come to that stage on his own. William can’t remain angry forever and grief has no timeline but 3 years is a long time to remain angry. I know people can stay angry for years but it’s not healthy at all.

    • SJ (they/them) says:

      cosign this analysis for sure

    • Lorelei says:

      Also cosign!

    • K8erade says:

      For all of his talk about mental health, you’d think Pegs would seek out some kind of help.

      • Lorelei says:

        @K8terade, W&K love nothing more than to talk about mental health issues while pretending they have none. It would be funny if it wasn’t so wasteful and condescending and useless.

    • Emily_C says:

      Chuck has never been in even one stage of grief, because Chuck does not care.

      Harry’s not in “bargaining.” His interviews are all diplomacy. Read “Spare.” He knows what’s going on.

    • solidgold says:

      Chuck is in the acceptance stage. He wished Harry well and said adios. It is Chucks PR that is trying to make him look like a father who misses his son. I don’t believe Chuck misses Harry at all. Offering Harry security would be the first step in showing some care for his son…

      Will is in the anger stage and will remain in that stage. He will never bargain with Harry …. while married to Meghan…

    • RoyalBlue says:

      Yea, KFC didn’t bat an eye and skipped past the first four stages, and went straight to the acceptance stage. He is missing the sensitivity gene for sure.

    • Well Wisher says:

      Harry has put it to bed. He is healed enough to set up boundaries.

  37. HeyKay says:

    Charles chose Camilla over everything else in his life.
    Certainly over being a decent parent to his children.
    JMO, but Charles is trapped with Camilla. William is trapped with Kate.
    Just as Edward was trapped with Wallis. (I actually think Wallis was trapped by him)

    C&C deserve every lousy thing that comes their way plus more.
    Rotten to their souls both of them.
    Camilla could give lessons in evil manipulations.

    Personally, I’m hoping the entire monarchy shuts down before the damn thing eats Prince George. (I’m rooting for G,C, and L to get out)

    • K8erade says:

      Honestly, I think the coronation is going to be nothing short of a disaster and I do think the Britsh monarchy is in its endgame. William may be king but I see no future past him. Charles is ascending from a rather weak position and the British public is just eventually going to get tired of being manipulated constantly. As you said, C&C kind of have this coming.

      After seeing Ipatev House on The Crown, I watched a documentary about The Romanovs which led me to another documentary about Kaiser Wilhelm (whom I actually think William shares more in common with). Both Nicholas and Wilhelm were men who were easily angered and known for their hair trigger tempers and refusal to truly work towards understanding their people. They also both overdid it with the propaganda as William does. If people in Russia and Germany got sick of that over 100 years ago, I don’t think even the British public will have the patience for it now and I just don’t see how it will be a successful reign unless William makes some serious attitude adjustments before he takes the throne. I think it’s going to be harder to keep this institution going as it’s going to be harder to censor the information that reaches George, Charlotte, and Louis.

    • Emily_C says:

      Can we please stop blaming women for “trapping” some of the most powerful men in the world? The women in question are not good people, but these are grown men with massive amounts of power, not fox cubs or something.

      • K8erade says:

        I don’t think that’s what @HeyKay meant by “trapped,” Emily_C. Pegs has always been in full control. Not that I think Kate is in any way shape or form a good person but I think she’s the one that’s more trapped here than the other way around by William. In reality, they’re all boxed in with the media and each other with no exit or breathing room. If Charles were to try and divorce Camilla, you might as well call for the revolution right then and there. Even if they both mutually wanted a divorce, there’s no way the public sentiment would stand for it. The media has them cornered.

  38. Lizzie says:

    I’ve thought for a while that Camilla is another Wallis Simpson – a woman to whom the king has an unbreakable attraction, will do anything to keep her and where no one else sees nor understands the attraction. Is Charles another King Edward VII? I think that if push came to shove Charles would choose Camilla.

    • lanne says:

      But Wallis resented Edward and his neediness and treated him like garbage, even flaunting lovers in front of him while he just sat there with a hangdog face.

      I think Camilla’s relationship with Charles is transactional for sure–maybe she enjoys having power over him, and he’s a big financial provider.

      I disagree that Charles would choose Camilla when push comes to shove. I think he would choose the crown, but would whine for the rest of his life that he couldn’t have both. I think Edward was seen as a failure and a deviant inside the RF and Charles’s pride would be too wounded. He was born to be king damnit, and by god he will be coronated.

      • Tessa says:

        I think Charles would have chosen the crown. He apparently made sure he could marry her and stay in line for the throne. Edward did not bring in a young woman to have his heirs and keep Wallis on the side. It was all or nothing

  39. Janice Hill says:

    I’m sorry that Harry and Meghan have gone through this deplorable treatment, and the attacks continue. But narcissists never apologize. Harry might do better to demand the palaces stop briefing against them, once and for all. Charles and William probably think they’re just playing the game and Harry is a sucker for not joining in. Instead Harry has set boundaries, and the Palace isn’t in control. That is unimaginable to them, and they do what narcissists do best–smear, lie and implicate.

  40. Jaded says:

    There are 3 things at play here that are causing all this indignation and feather-fluffing:

    1. The UpChuckation is looking more and more like a colossal fail. The money being spent when the country is spiraling into recession and food/heating/gas/wage insecurity is epidemic is obscene. At a time of belt-tightening, not a good look spending lavishly on a 3 day yawn-fest for a couple of boring adulterers.

    2. The Sussexes are still remaining silent, going about their business and not engaging with the the pond scum rota. They remain dignified and calm, and if a come-to-Jesus meeting and attendant apology doesn’t happen, too bad so sad. “Meg, can you make us some margaritas?”

    3. Harry is holding some 400+ pages that didn’t make it into Spare and that’s gotta have certain people rattled, hence the continued uptick in briefing and lying about the Sussexes. Harry has them running scared, as does Scobie’s upcoming book in which I imagine he’ll be a lot less *soft* on the BRF than Finding Freedom.

    As for Becky “What are the family meant to apologise for?” English…well dear, for starters how about abusing Meghan until she was suicidal. How about comparing her son to a chimpanzee? How about calling her and her mother “Straight outta Compton” and drug dealers? How about spewing crap about Meghan being on a pron site? How about the arrogant and demeaning treatment she got from Harry’s own brother and SIL? How about William physically attacking Harry on several occasions, once injuring him? How about the public displays of outright anger and spite the Wails showed to them at the Commonwealth church service, Philip’s funeral, the Jubbly and the Queen’s funeral and walkabout? I could go on and on Becky but this is a good start.

    • Emily_C says:

      How about Chuck holding Harry under the wheels of a bus from the moment Harry was born? How about Chuck’s complicity (at the least) in Harry’s mother’s death?

  41. SueBarbri33 says:

    I always thought Harry’s statement that he wouldn’t attend the Chubbly without an apology was a masterstroke. He introduced it as a premise for his presence, so that if H&M do attend then everyone will conclude that they received an apology. William has no intention of apologizing and will never do so because he doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong, but he also realizes that Harry has put him in a bind. That’s why he’s still so angry. Harry actually was giving him an out and a chance to at least seem like a normal person in the pages of the world’s press, but William is blowing it by running these angry stories.

    • K8erade says:

      I have to say I’m really curious what people over in the UK have to say about all of this when they constantly get William is incandescent in the media and can’t even pretend to apologize for any wrongdoing. Am I the only one who thinks that speaks of William’s lowest qualities? I mean all of this would end if he just apologized. He doesn’t even have to mean it, he just has to privately apologize to Harry.

      • SueBarbri33 says:

        You’re right. And the emphasis on his lowest qualities reminds me so much of the way the press talks about Camilla. It’s as if there’s nothing good about either one of them. He’s angry and she’s “the laziest woman alive.” I’m no PR guru, but those are disastrous personas for people who are going to have to spend the rest of their lives in the public eye. If nothing else, it leaves almost no room for growth or hobbies or anything else to distract from their weird lives. Even the queen had her horse obsession and, on the whole, she seemed ‘nice’. I mean, William…does he enjoy race cars or maybe jigsaw puzzles or play the flute or something? They need to turn the page on this constant anger–why would they want us to know that the future king behaves like Donald Duck behind the scenes? The funniest thing about all of this is that Harry actually only painted Will and Kate as kind of cold and remote–that’s not the worst thing in the world. William is overreacting.

      • Emily_C says:

        According to Spare, Willy attacked Harry physically twice when they were adults. He does not come across as “cold and remote” at all — he comes across as an unhinged ragemonster. Kate does come across as cold and remote, but also as ridiculously easily offended.

  42. Emily_C says:

    I finished “Spare” last night. Unless he’s in some kind of haze after finding a lot of clarity over a lot of years of being abused, Harry does not think an apology will ever happen. He said that an apology would be a necessary first step in interviews to be diplomatic. But no, he knows Chuck and Willy are in bed with the tabloids that have tormented him his whole life and who killed his mother and tried to kill his wife.

    Harry said that Chuck claiming he couldn’t tell the press what to do was like Chuck claiming he couldn’t tell his valet what to do. Harry knows what’s up. All this frothing is likely exactly what he expected. And Harry seems very conflicted about the monarchy, in the end, saying that it’s based on thuggery, violence, white supremacy, etc. He says he will always be loyal to his Granny. What does that mean vis a vis the monarchy now? I don’t think he knew when he and Moehringer wrote the book. I’m sure he knows now though, and we’ll see what happens.

    • K8erade says:

      I got a similar impression, Emily_C. He would love to reconcile but I don’t think he expects it to happen and is moving on with his life after setting himself free by speaking his truth. The only ones not moving on with their lives is the royal family and the British media.

  43. QuiteContrary says:

    “there is an assumption by many that (Meghan) is unlikely to go to Westminster Abbey for the Coronation anyway.”

    They keep trying to manifest this, wishing Meghan out of the picture. Dream on, royal rota. Harry and Meghan — unlike the Incandescent One and the Dim Bulb — are a team.

  44. sonja says:

    He needs to be worried about Camilla. She’s coming for him.

    • Angie D says:

      Totally agree. He is to stupid to realize that he lost his only ally his brother who really had his back. When he threw him under the bus by siding with the Rota H realized that he could not be trusted. Why show allegiance to him when there is none from him. From now on he will constantly have to watch his back. Hence the incandescence behavior.

      • solidgold says:

        Will never gave a crap about Harry. I do not even think he cares that Harry is gone, I think the media cares because they depend on conflict.

    • Laura D says:

      I was going to post exactly the same thing sonja. If I were William I’d be on the phone to Montecito and say what needed to be said to get Harry on side pretty damn quick. The witch is running rings around him. William is too fragile to take on Camilla on his own but, Harry has shown he doesn’t give a tinkers curse about what her rats in the media says about him. By allowing the feud with his to carry on William is playing right into her hands. Camilla has had a sniff of power and will sacrifice anyone and anything to keep it. William (and Kate for that matter) have witnessed how she treats those who she thinks will stand in her way. Woe betide William if he think she won’t do the same to his family. That witch is going to be queen for a long time and the potential damage she can do to William (and Kate) while she’s on the throne is immeasurable.

      William needs allies. At the moment he doesn’t appear to have anyone with enough clout to protect him from the onslaught that Camilla will unleash on him when she’s ready to make her move against the his part of the House of Windsor. William should not forget that Camilla sees him not as heir to the throne but, as Diana’s son. He should also remember that it was Camilla who let the world know about his terrible rages. So when the time is right she will use his well documented anger issues against him. If William was clever he would start working to change the “incandescent” narrative against his brother into “sadly families fall out” and leave it at that. He should also encourage Kate (and her family) to do the same. The sooner Wales realise their real enemies are closer than “Overseas” they might have a chance of thwarting whatever the witch has in store for them.

      • Nora says:

        “William needs allies.”(!!) 🤣 William has the institution, the government and the British media all defending him and polishing his image.

      • Laura D says:

        @Nora – I agree with you to a point. William has been successful in using the institution to support his attacks on his brother and his wife but, Camilla is a whole different story. As someone said on Twitter “William is playing checkers whilst Camilla is playing chess, and Charles? He’s just playing with himself!”

        It’s going to be very interesting over the run-up to the Chubbly watching who takes side with whom. Incandescent rages against Camilla’s plans will play straight into her hands. The woman has been successfully manipulating the RF and the media for years and William (like his father) has let her get away with it because it suited their agendas. William may have a “super-injunction” in place over his affairs but, he’s allowed the media to repeatedly document his terrible rages. If William isn’t careful when Camilla is queen she will start dripping her poison and hint to the media he’s unstable and not mentally strong enough to be king. She did it to his mother and I’m convinced she’d not hesitate to use the same play book against Diana’s son.

  45. Beverley says:

    Why doesn’t it dawn on William that – sometime in the future – he won’t want these tantrums and proclamations of rage to be a matter of public record? But here he is, just like a small child who doesn’t understand the concept of consequences, strutting his anger and resentment around like the finest plumage.

    Every stupid and reckless thing you say, oh Incandescent One, will live on the Internet forever.

    Or at least until FK George discredits/sanitizes your words and cleans up after your deeds.

  46. The Recluse says:

    If I were William, I would be more worried that ‘whatever Camilla wants, Camilla gets’, very worried. She’s greedy and avaricious. She’s already got Chuck to set up a trust fund for two children who aren’t related to him – her kids. Harry isn’t the threat. Camilla is.

  47. crazyoldlady says:

    Whenever someone refers to William as incandescent — I think of a dirty, old, flickering neon sign that says “vacancy.”

    He’s damaged goods throwing childish temper tantrums with global media reach. Sad.

  48. RoyalBlue says:

    Whatever became of the plan to have Archbishop Welby stage an intervention. Aren’t these people Christians? don’t they believe in forgiveness, hope, faith and love? Why does the head of the Anglican church hold grudges? can you imagine the pope being this nasty in public?

    • Well Wisher says:

      They want him out because he is on Harry’s side.

    • Emily_C says:

      I’m sorry, but I laughed out loud. The man who founded the Anglican church murdered two of his wives and thousands of his subjects. As for popes, oh ye gods and little fishes, some of the worst and most violent and definitely most grudge-holding men ever to live have been popes.

      Religion does not make people good. Power tends to make people bad. Power supposedly directly from God, which is not allowed to be gainsaid? Makes mass murderers.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        Sure, but we are not back in the 1500’s anymore. In the year of Beyonce and age of social media, kings, popes and bishops should be kindly folk.

  49. Cara says:

    William and Harry, wake up!! You are being pitted against each other for the sole benefit of Camilla. Can’t you see that you are being played?? Unite and focus your venom on that shriveled old hag. You don’t have to actually like each other. Many siblings don’t like each other. You both know what your mother would say about this, right? You’ve wasted too much time already. Snap out of it!!

    • Nora says:

      William is psycho and obsessed with his brother’s wife. Harry should wake up and wash his hands of the Windsors family.

  50. Robin Samuels says:

    The Rota Rats use the term royal family instead of the working royals, Charles, Camilla, William, and Kate and their staff. Other family members are not a significant concern.
    William owes Meghan an apology. He collaborated with Rothmere and used Jason Knauf’s bag of tricks to prevent Meghan from a victory against the Daily Mail. The proof is in the judgment, and William is angry because Harry and Meghan hired a professional lawyer who laid all the facts on the table. William is a slimy snake that betrayed his brother’s wife. He dislikes Meghan because she’s intelligent, beautiful, not easily intimidated, and Harry’s wife.
    The Royal Rats don’t discuss the Sussexes’ response to the bullying allegations. William and Kate’s fingerprints are all over that document. He can stay mad until his last day on earth. He is a central player in the Meghan and Harry smear campaign.
    Omid Scobie does not have a close relationship with Harry and Meghan. He’s fair in his reporting, and they trust him to a degree, but he doesn’t have access to them. Only Archewell speaks for them.
    William is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. He was so mesmerized by the concept of becoming king that he failed to see Camilla for who she indeed was. He knows Charles is a master trickster. Why would his woman be any different?
    That man is deeply indebted to the tabloids. I am convinced he’s in an affair, and Kate, like the other Windsor women, turns a blind eye for the sake of public opinion. Her recent attempts to use PDA during their engagements are to help, but William is too arrogant to be rescued. The unraveling is accelerating; it’s a matter of time.

  51. Bisynaptic says:

    I think we, as readers, are meant to have distain for Harry (waiting to receive an official invitation), because an official invitation would put Charles in a supplicant position, on the record. I think we’re supposed to think/assume that the invitation is already there (somewhere in the ether) and that it’s Harry’s job to go after making it official, by moving closer (ie, making amends) to his father—if that makes sense. This is narcissistic thinking, in people and institutions.

  52. Over it says:

    To me , the worst part of the way the institution and the British media write and talk about Harry and Meghan is the way they say, Harry could come to the chubbly for a short time but Meghan would stay home because it’s her son Archie birthday as if to say that Archie is only Meghan’s son so why would Harry want to be with them to celebrate Archie birthday. It’s the complete dismissal and erasing of Harry biracial children and his biracial wife that really makes my blood boil.
    On another note, In the Harry and Meghan Netflix series, there is the part when Diana had died and Harry and the other brother were greeting the crowds and one woman shouted out William , william Like she wanted william attention specifically she has zero interest in Harry . It has me thinking that woman was probably Carole Middleton already stalking her pray . Lol

  53. Pepper says:

    I don’t know but that guy must be glowing in the dark by now he is so incandescent.