Other than the church walk on Easter Sunday, the Princess of Wales has not done a public event since March 21st. Prince William hasn’t done a public event (other than Easter) since March 23, his trip to Poland. Their kids are on a school break, and per usual, William and Kate seem to believe that they deserve a mandatory month-long holiday as well. Again, I’m not saying that they shouldn’t have family time, but I’ve always been shocked by William and Kate’s commitment to never scheduling one single day of work during their annual five-to-six week Easter break. In this post, I’m including photos of King Charles last Friday, where he inspected the 200th Sovereign’s Parade at Sandhurst, which is like the graduation event for cadets. There was some talk about how William – a Sandhurst graduate – should have joined his father. William did not. Because, again, Peg is committed to being lazy. It’s starting to be a real problem, the fact that the “working royals” are either in their 80s OR they’re two lazy-ass 40-somethings.
The Royal Family is in danger of “abolishing itself by stealth” by spending less time engaging with the people of Britain, a shock report reveals. King Charles has been warned the monarchy is at risk of becoming “too distant” from the nation it seeks to serve after a dramatic slump in the number of public engagements.
Death, scandal and resignation are blamed for a 40 percent drop in ribbon-cutting and hand-shaking duties over the past decade, says a study by an influential think tank. And it predicts that if missing junior royals don’t do more to support the new King the monarchy could easily “collapse”.
The tally of UK-based engagements has slumped from 3,338 in 2014 to just 2,079 last year, according to analysis by Civitas. And last night royal author Margaret Holder backed the report, warning a lack of a public presence could “herald the demise of the institution”. Queen Elizabeth II famously believed she had to be “seen to be believed”. But the think tank is concerned the Royal Family could “disappear from public view”.
It has been rocked by the death of the Queen and Prince Philip, the departure of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to the US, and the Duke of York stepping back from royal duties amid scandal. Now the King is being urged to appoint more “working royals” who will meet people across the country.
Frank Young, the Civitas report’s author, said: “The Royal family as we know it is on the brink of collapse and risks abolishing itself by stealth if the King doesn’t take steps to boost visits that have fallen radically over the last decade. Through death, scandal and resignation the Royal family is increasingly reliant on a few hard-working members, with Charles, Anne and Edward, doing almost half the work. We now need new working royals or will have to accept a Royal Family that is more distant from the people than at any time in the past 100 years.”
Civitas claims family members over the age of 70 are responsible for the greatest share of engagements and warns of a potential “shortage of royals”. The Duke of Kent is 87, Princess Alexandra is 86, the Duke of Gloucester is 78 and the Duchess of Gloucester is 76. It fears that the number of royal engagements could “shrink to barely 1,000 a year” over the next decade.
Civitas suggests Princess Beatrice should be considered as a potential “full-time working royal” and adds the Princess Royal’s daughter Zara Tindall would be a “popular addition” as she is “steeped in the school of Princess Anne”.
That was always the flaw in Charles’s design for a slimmed down monarchy – he believed that his heir would step up and work as much as Charles did when he was Prince of Wales. That’s not going to happen – William has been coddled, protected and shielded all his lazy life, and the family treats Kate like she’s the village idiot, someone too incompetent for substantive work. When Charles decided to side with William and sign off on the Sussexes’ exit – with no “half-in” option – he did so with the belief that William would step up with Harry gone. That has not happened, and it’s hilarious. Charles pushed out Harry and Meghan – two charismatic royals who would have been the future of the monarchy – because he and William were too petty and jealous of their popularity. So here we are. This dull-ass, uncharismatic, all-white royal family. Good luck.
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- CAMBERLEY, ENGLAND – APRIL 14: King Charles III inspects the 200th Sovereign’s parade at Royal Military Academy Sandhurst on April 14, 2023 in Camberley, England. The parade marks the end of 44 weeks of training for 171 Officer Cadets. It is the first time King Charles III has inspected Sovereign’s Parade at Sandhurst since becoming Monarch.,Image: 769395227, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Dan Kitwood / Avalon
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Great point on how Charles probably expected W&K to fill up the gap and now he has to rely on two ageing siblings and an heir+ wife who are lazy.
Maybe he’s going to need Edward’s kids after all.
I’m actually baffled that Charles truly thought that William would step up. I’m not saying Charles is the smartest, but surely by now, he knows William better than that. At best, he saw William working the hardest he ever has during the smear campaign and thought that would carry over. Huge mistake. Huge.
After hearing what Harry had to say in Spare, Charles really sounded so distant from his sons and their lives and largely oblivious to what was going on with them as human beings, maybe he truly never noticed William’s inherent laziness.
Charles is just too self-involved to ever parent his children.
I don’t think this is it at all. I think Charles wants a slimmed down monarchy to remove competition. He’s a petulant little man who can’t handle anyone who might possible take the spotlight away from him or Camilla. If you believe Harry (which I do), he doesn’t want other royals out working and getting press that might make them look more popular, more vibrant, more relevant, than he is.
@SaraLee- I think you’re exactly correct. Charles wants less competition (particularly from younger, more glamorous royals) AND I think he wants more $ for his own projects. Fewer working royals = fewer people amongst whom to divide up the Sovereign Grant.
Which brings up an important point- for all his talk about a slimmed down monarchy, he has NEVER suggested a reduction in the Sovereign Grant. So this “slimmed down” monarchy will do exactly fuck-all as far as saving British citizens $. On the contrary, the royals are as expensive as ever.
Typical Virgo – Actually with the Sovereign Grant guaranteed base and reduced work force the royals are more expensive than ever on a per person basis. If I understand it correctly, the Sovereign Grant replaced the former Civil List to give royals funding a more stable base while shielding unpopular royals from criticism that they weren’t worth the tax support given.
“Apres moi, le deluge.”
This isn’t a bad thing—the RF going out with a whimper instead of a bang. The current POW just wants to climb atop a mountain of Duchy money and never work again—fine. What isn’t fine is their collective attitude of having done the world a favor by creating an empire and stealing whatever wasn’t nailed down.
Oh—and a lot of Brits are hungry and impoverished.
I think the bigger issue is that they don’t “work” – they attend events from time to time. That’s not work. There is no value added there. They don’t accomplish anything, don’t build anything, don’t make anyone’s lives better, don’t create. There is a reason there should be no monarchy — they live off the backs of their countrymen for merely being born and are bred to think that they need do nothing else. It’s not about attending more events — it’s about becoming a functioning human who contributes something — anything — to the world.
Yeeeees!!! So agree!! The only members that did substantive work are now living in Montecito. And yes, some of what Prince Charles does, like the Prince’s Trust, is substantive.
After reading that Chuck is worth almost a billion and still sucking off the public taxpayer’s money, I think more Brits are going to support ending the public dole to the RF. They can support themselves.
Hear, Hear, Josephine. You’ve put it in a nutshell! I have long believed that the Royals would just gradually become so diminished that they would be insignificant.
Just existing is no longer enough. Republics manage to find people to cut ribbons and plant trees. Perhaps the monarch/head of state would eventually just get a salary and be assigned one palace to live in. The modern world cannot afford to support entire families and their cousins. This whole idea of a “Royal Family” needs to go away. Or they could become museum pieces, confined to one palace and people could just come and gawk at them, lol. I know, that last remark was rather mean, but monarchs are an anachronism.
@Josephine – But, how can you say they do nothing! Don’t you know that people only travel to England because of them? That they are responsible for all tourism??
This is the ridiculous argument people throw at you, like they’re greeting people at the airport or something. You can visit the palaces/castles and see their ill-gotten gains without them actually sitting in them.
@Josephine- 1000%!!! They get paid to attend Wimbleton fgs! Which they would do regardless! The British citizens got a raw deal regarding the (lack of) value the royals bring. …….
I think of their work as publicity and marketing, not actually doing things with charities or giving their own money or work or whatever.
If it’s supposed to be publicity and marketing it doesn’t work since their presence never actually shines a light on the charities and causes they take under their wing. Statistics show that royal patrons don’t actually even do anything for these organizations in terms of helping to advertise for more support etc. and their visits get very little attention.
@C-facts.
They are a useless, and disgusting lot. Time to go. Wills and Kate should have been banished. Meghan and Harry are not lazy. They couldn’t stand the competition. Kate looks like she’s been sucking lemons and Willy looked pissed of and bord.
The media is sending a warning that this monarchy better do better because we’re getting tired and bored. Who are the younger royals they’re talking about? William and Kate? Jobson said yesterday in a clip that William and Kate need to do more and let the king make up with son and he needs to get over it. I think all of this is the media pissed about having no access to Meghan and her children, not one music superstar wanted to be associated with the Coronation, the protests, lack of volunteers and Kate and William not fulfilling the glamorous, youthful, Sussex cosplay to fill the gap left by the Sussexes has them reaching a breaking point. Jobson said there was no glamour. You can tell they all desperately want the Sussexes back but the know that will never happen. I find it odd that this was published and all this criticism came up after Biden’s Ireland visit and Meghan not going to the coronation. I bet this wouldn’t have been published if Meghan showed up because it would’ve been the monarchy is popular spiel. What changed here?
Brit, they have finally realized that H&M are gone. After the Clowning, why would Harry be showing up again other than for his charities and Invictus. No one will know that he’s there. Meghan noped out of the Clowning which is a very clear FAFO to the media and the brf. She’s done being the person they place all of their hate and vitriol. H&M will never parade their children in front of people who will vilify them.
The bm now believe that H&M are not going to be supplying them with anything for them to write 1000s of articles about. H&M are done. If the bm decides to write about the projects they roll out (once completed), that’s all they will have.
I want to know if this was the brf’s or the bm’s strategy? Who is behind getting the Sussexes to stay as far away from the brf as possible? Is this the Escort?
None of them work a full working week like any member of their public, but the answer is to put more on the payroll? Other countries are managing with streamlined monarchies. Sophie and Anne haven’t been on the RF Instagram much lately either. Maybe KC is starting his streamlining and decreasing their “work”? Or maybe like PH said about W&K, KC keeps other royals from doing as much so they don’t outshine him?
Actually Sophie has had several events in the last week or 2 but no one seems to be interested in reporting on it
Honestly, royal engagements aren’t supposed to be big news. They are supposed to work so many engagements a year it isn’t newsworthy. Their clothes shouldn’t be newsworthy either.
Think of Princess Alexandra, the Duchess of Gloucester, Duke of Kent. They aren’t making big news because they aren’t supposed to. They’re supposed to quietly go to church fetes, fund raisers, and sheep shows and then go home.
I remember noticing one week how the Duchess of Gloucester had worn the same outfit earlier in the week. Once at a small local event, then she showed up in the same outfit for BP garden party. No one was supposed to notice that that was her ‘outfit’ for the week.
@Nota exactly. Kate “overshadows” Charles and camilla when she works for two reasons – one, her clothes(even if people dont like her clothes, there’s more to talk about than with Camilla’s clothes, such as who is she going to cosplay today), and two, because she does not work that much. So her next public appearance will get press attention bc its been a month since her last public apperance (excluding Easter, and that “month” is a generous estimate since we don’t know when we’ll see her again). If she was out 4 days a week on a regular basis, it would be routine.
(I’m not even sure how much she is actually “overshadowing,” bc I feel like most people don’t care about Kate since she’s so boring and uninteresting. but for the press she’s better than nothing at this point.)
I’m talking about the IG account run by/for the royals. If they won’t even report on themselves, why would anyone else care?
Oh and suddenly Palmolive announces they will be in Birmingham on Thursday.
Nobody dare to make William and Kate increase their workload. I believed Kate only did about 99 engagements and William did no better . Hey there are 365 days in a year.
While I agree that they appear totally lazy and no doubt are – certainly the 5 week Easter break is at their insistence – I’m also mindful of Harry’s remarks that Charles controlled how much they all did, and that they were allowed to do no more than he agreed to.
I commented on this below, but at this point William is in control of his own funding and his own schedule, the same way Charles was as prince of wales/duke of cornwall. We have not seen any uptick in their engagements (I would say they seem to be doing even less but we’ll see in December with the end of the year numbers.)
i also think being called lazy bothered William, but I don’t think Charles preventing him from working bothered him that much – since as we’re seeing now, its not like William is out there doing 10 events a week.
It was even more obvious William wasn’t at the sandhurst anniversary because the CP of Jordan was there with his dad. He can’t use the excuse of not being the heir anymore because he is the heir.
Wow. So the heir for another royal house is doing more events in your country than you? This is how you know it’s all about taking things from Harry because if he really cared about the military he would be at an event the King and other royal houses felt the need to be at, especially given the fact he actually went there too. He’s a toddler wanting to keep all their toys that just gather dust.
William will have a conniption if he has to share the wealth and self-awarded accolades with new senior royals. He wants all of the glory for none of the work. Charles made his bed. Now he can count bedbugs in it.
Kate would likely have a conniption if Bea were in. Bea can out-shine Kate’s fashion hands-down. And she is a born princess. Bea would be continually thrown under the bus for Kate’s PR. She would be smarter to say no.
Chuck doused Bea’s aspirations for a ‘working’ royal role years ago. Does she still hanker for the work? Kinda doubt it with Chuck being chary about allowing other ‘workers’ engagements and opportunity to outshine him and consort.
It’s not just the laziness – it’s also that they’ve chosen to fill in the gaps with briefing and backstabbing.
“ Now the King is being urged to appoint more “working royals” who will meet people across the country.”
Cue Camilla’s children!! How much do you want to bet Charles would put them to work for Beatrice and Eugenie?
Seriously though, the answer is right in front of them Anne’s kids (Peter and Zara) , Andrew’s kids (Beatrice and Eugenie) and Edward’s kids (Louise and James) can all be put to work to support the monarchy. But Charles is too petty and grudge holding because both of his parents seem to prefer them over him.
Mike tindall being put to work would imo be a bad idea.
Eh, that’s a question of perspective. If the aim is to burn it all down then I say get him out there.
Mike Tindall would be really popular if he became a funded royal.
The answer is in front of them with their distant relatives who are royals in other European countries. They all are managing with streamlining.
So, how do the European royals operate? I genuinely don’t know.
I don’t know much besides what has been on here about streamlining and taking titles away and having those who aren’t direct-line heirs being educated and getting jobs.
The other European royal families have each had incidents and/or issues with spares the difference is that the incidents tend to appear more like growing pains. Part of that is because they don’t have a toxic press relationship based on leaking. But the other part is that the families have been very open about the modernizing and updating going on, in consultation with the government, which isn’t always a painless process.
Charles should put Camilla’s kids to work, because if the rumors are true, he’s certainly given them enough money. If Zara and Bea were recruited, they would be expected to work for free.
I cannot believe this article didn’t mention the WanKs once. It’s like there were orders not to write their names.
Looking forward to Parker Bowles reign.
Honestly, I would not rely on Eugenie because I think she’s on the way out the door.
The answer is for the existing ‘working royals’ to work more, not add more royals. Charles regularly did 500 engagements a year but that’s still only working part-part-time. As his former press man said, ‘The Windsors are very good at working three days a week five months of the year and making it look like they work hard’.
W&K bare minimum should do 500 engagements per year each, 1000 each per year would be more appropriate. Entirely possible given the way they count engagements. But W&K have always refused to do the bread-and-butter. That’s why all the millions wasted on performative prizes and centres – so they can do even less while claiming to be having ‘impact’.
The answer is to get the Heir and is wife to work 500 engagements each which is what Charles did when he was the same age and Prince of Wales.
Neither of them have really increased their numbers since they announce they were going to be working royals (once Philip said he was retiring).
Agreed, Nic.
They have both basically done the least amount of “work”, but have gotten slightly smarter about choosing things cameras will show up for, but it’s still a fraction of what Chuck did as PoW, the entire time he was PoW. The pandemic worked in their favor, and now they are Zooming their way to mediocrity.
Good luck with this, England. Your taxpayer dollars at work.
Since the beginning of 2023, we keep hearing more and more of Camzilla’s power. She’s overseeing staff, she’s KC’s pillar of support, she never has anything to say yet the tabloids do it for her… In Spare we read about her contentious relationship with W and H—especially H.
KC might have done his best to run H&M off not only due to his mistaken belief that W&K would (be forced) to step up, but also his (misplaced) trust in his second wife’s counsel.
There was always a huge flaw in Charles plan, unless his intention was to cutback on the number of ribbon cuttings they did a year. QE2 got a lot of the extended family to do a lot of the heavey lifting. most of them are now aging out. someone of twitter did the listings there are 7 of them including Camila and Charles. so they are left with Edward & Sophie, Will & Kate when the 7 olds pass on. Even if Harry and Meghan were around there is no way they could fill the gap of the 7 olds that will be aging out. so they need a new strategy. cut the number of engangments and ribbon cuttings and make them more effective. and maybe the government needs to address it in another way. cut the sovereign grants and the Royal family take care of their family from the money they earn
Excellent points.
CIII’s notion of a slimmed down monarchy was always misguided, but he was never a strategic thinker or even above average in intelligence. They expelled the only two members of the family who are. They are solidly in the Find Out phase, now.
The thing is those ribbon cutting ceremonies are where the royals need to be spending their time – meeting the folks who are dying to meet them (ie: monarchists), it’s those little engagements that endear the BRF to the people who are already inclined to like them. They are boring and awful engagements but that’s the job and if the BRF is smart (they aren’t) they’ll focus on that and shore up their base of support. But they won’t, and they’ll fade into oblivion trying to compete with H&M and others.
Exactly
Burger King never wanted to do those ribbon-cutting engagements, and he was very vocal about never wanting to be king. He most likely told Kate that they wouldn’t be monarch-ing that way.
I always think about that scene in The Crown where Prince Philip has a dinner meeting with the concrete association. It was meant to show exactly how dull and mundane Phillip’s work was and even if it was a fictional example, it impressed me because despite his innumerable flaws, Phillip spent hours and hours and hours of his time with the people. Burger King and Kate really aren’t giving their lives to the people in the same way that their elders did yet they have all the same riches. They really are big shirkers and scam artists.
They’ve started to rely on PR instead of face-to-face engagements – and that PR is primarily based on tearing other family members down, coupled with saccharine coverage that is so hyperbolic that it is hilarious. This also means that they are incredibly reliant on the press – and it will only work as long as the press plays ball.
Exactly. That is the bread and butter of the monarchy. The Queen’s grandfather started the walks among the people….
Let the people seen the monarch, so that they would support them….
As far as I can tell, slimmed down monarchy is just giving the same pool of money to less people. It’s not saving money for taxpayers or any of that BS.
From your lips to God’s ears. @Harper – love the term monarching.
It makes no sense that Charles would believe the Wales would step up after more than a decade of the lowest amount work every year and constantly being called work shy, lazy, and do-littles.
Charles allowed the laziness of the Wales
Will and Kate have many vacations.
Wait, are we completely ignoring what Harry was saying during his press tour: that how many engagements etc,. are not largely up to them, it’s a crazy coordination between all the houses and Chuck hates attention being taken away, and also something about purse strings (can’t remember that part of what Harry said) so in the end Wills and Kate don’t do much by default, when at least Wills and Harry wanted to (can’t say much for kate, Harry was only talking about him and W)? I get it’s fun to blame peg for being lazy, but *should it really be peg who’s blamed, or shouldn’t it be Chuck?
At this point its William. Charles no longer controls the purse strings for William. And honestly, does anyone think that William and Kate were begging to work more and being shot down by Charles? It worked out for them that Charles did not want them to outwork him.
Now, as PoW and more importantly, Duke of cornwall (because of the $$), William makes his own schedule and has his own funding. If he wanted to do 500 engagements a year, he could. anne has somehow always managed it.
This. And @BritBrit, I mean…it’s not just that William wasn’t doing “work” for the Firm, it’s that even in their private lives he and Kate have always been lazy. We never heard anything about that agricultural course at Cambridge he took, or anything like that, and Kate is no better.
So it may very well be that Charles was limiting them, but there is an element of their personalities contributing to it – which is why they still aren’t really doing anything now that William is on his own.
Also, I think Harry was attempting to soften it a bit. But who knows.
I don’t buy Chuck was controlling the Keens purse given all the luxury vacations they go on and just how much money Abolitionist Barbie spends on high end bespoke designer clothes and her face/hair. All those properties need looking after. Peggy also has quite a large number of vintage sports cars and motorbikes that we don’t hear about – all funded by Daddy.
Harry as the spare was given whatever small change was left – Peggy and Wiglet were given whatever they demanded.
Wasn’t that the excuse Charles used for why he couldn’t fund Meghan as a full-time working royal? That the Duchy of Cornwall’s money was being stretched thin with all of Bulliam’s helicopter rides? Because when he was POW, he was supporting his household (and god knows KCIII doesn’t economize), William’s, and Harry? And Harry was getting the short end of the stick regarding funding before he married Meghan. I blame the Queen partly for William being work-shy. He and Kate had five or six years before they had to become full-time working royals so that Kate could adjust to royal life and William could play search and rescue pilot.
The Malta Lie is a lie. QEII didn’t give them two years off to settle in to married life. No one could figure out why W&K weren’t working, after all that talk in the engagement interview about hitting the ground running. The RRs grabbed onto the stan fiction about ‘two years off’ and acted like it was real.
W&K were meant to be full-time working royals from the moment the engagement was announced. Philip even called them out (in his way) in his 90th birthday interview to beg them to work more. Instead they ran away and became even lazier. No one has ever known how to get William in line, deal with his laziness, selfishness, and temperamental behavior.
I think William told Harry that and it was true to a certain extent. Charles likely did control the type of events and the number of events. However, I can also believe that William used that as an excuse to not work. Both can be true and Harry was incredibly sympathetic and believing of what his family told him. William also told him that he happened to mention the crying story to Camilla and somehow Camilla leaked it but twisted the story in Kate’s favor.
I don’t buy it. Royals have repeatedly said, directly to the press or through their staff, that royals schedule their own engagements and decide their own work. That’s part of why things are so disorganized. You can have three royals in the same town the same day. They need central scheduling so you send one royal out to one part of the country for a week, they do 5-10 engagements each day.
What I do believe? William absolutely would lie to Harry and say, ‘Gee I want to do more, I’m not allowed’. Same way he lied about not being able to do more royal work because EAAA wouldn’t let him. EAAA publicly slapped him down for his lies and soon after, a royal insider was installed as head of EAAA to stop anti-William leaks.
The day will come when they have to beg the Sussexes to make a couple of appearances on behalf of that institution to revive interest and glamor. The work ethic of the Sussexes coupled with their charisma and authenticity is really what this institution needs. They can send all the 2nd tier players they choose, it will land like a thud. Hopeful the Sussexes will politely refuse all while continuing to build their lives in California.
This 👆!
I so agree with you
A few things – William has said FOR YEARS he was never going to do all those little events – remember “what is royal work anyways?” so they should have seen this coming.
That said, I believe Harry when we said in Spare that they are allowed to work as much as Charles lets them and that they are told to not do so much because they are more popular than him and then suddenly there are stories about them being lazy. This is all a Charles ploy for bad W&K press.
I don’t feel bad for them though, because they could have been smarter and worked with Harry for change, but they’re lazy and jealous and stupid, so it’s a consequence of their own making.
Royalty is dumb anyways. Who is going to pay for these extra “working royals”?
William and Kate are lazy – they always have been. But I also think that Charles like them being lazy because he’s pathologically jealous of anyone in the family more popular than him. So it is very much Charles’ mental health pathologies seems to be what is a threat to the monarchy.
Also, the rumours about the coronation is not to be a tiara even is said to be about Charles not wanting anyone else outshining him and Camilla through bling. The aristocrats who are attending have supposedly been told to not wear robes and coronets like they traditionally do at coronations. If this is indeed the plan, then they’ll spin it as a choice because of the cost of living crisis but it will really be about Charles’ pathological insecurity and jealousy.
I think Harry thought that something that applied to him (his father not allowing him to work more) applied to other members of the family as well. I don’t think Charles ever feared his oldest son and daughter in law would outshine him… apart from Kate’s so called “glamour”, nothing the couple did could outshine him… but Harry always has been a different case. He showed early that he’s capable of making things done (he was only 21 years old that he cofounded sentibale) and he was wholly committed and successful in his military career. That’s why he put this kind of restrictions on him… if William wasn’t lazy, he could have proved that while working as an helicopter pilot.. or he could have been more efficient with the work he was “allowed” to do. Neither him nor his wife have ever shown any kind of work ethic before or after their marriage. And lol for days, for everyone believing that Charles could dictate his wishes to will and that William would “obey ” him …
^^ Harry was around 19 when he and Prince Seeiso created the plan for Sentebale. It took time for the creation to come to full fruition. I believe that the Royal Foundation came into existence, in the beginning, largely to aid fundraising efforts for Sentebale to flourish. As usual, William piggybacked on putting the RF together.
““what is royal work anyways?”
Haha.. for once I agree with Will. What is royal work??
The monarchs main job is to exist.
I always found it rather hysterical when W&K’s supporters swore that they would work more once they became the P&P of Wales and my counter argument was, what in their shared work history would lead you to believe that? Crickets usually 🙄
Here in Canada, where KCIII is our head of state, the latest poll shows only 19% of Canadians want the monarchy to continue. This is down 12 points from September 2022. The addition of Beatrice, Zara and Louise is not going to help at this point.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/fewer-than-one-in-five-canadians-want-monarchy-to-continue-poll-1.6315382
CTV News is an American company.
As the CBC slogan says ‘it is not if you’re Canadian, it is who you are in Canada.’ I would not dare speak on what they country wants, it is a regional and historic matter.
Lol, they dont even dare mention William and Kkkate when speaking about work, just try to push Beatrice and Edo- this is hilarious!
If William and Kate started doing 500 events a year each, that would basically make up that gap. That would put 800 additional events on the court circular (considering they each do around 100 a year currently, on average.) there is no reason at this point why they cannot work more. It’s a choice on their parts, but its one that charles both allows and encourages (because their laziness makes him look better.)
Also – this was always going to be the issue. This was always going to be a problem as the royals who actually work age. The duke of Kent is 87!
Charles’ talk of the “slimmed down monarchy” sounds good on paper but as we’ve said on here for ages now, unless the money is also slimming down, then its kind of meaningless.
They were always going to run out of worker bees and keeping H&M would not have 100% solved the issue, but it would have helped a great deal and it would have made the monarchy feel fresher and more interesting. Instead they have the Duke of Kent and Kate. how fresh!
I don’t think their laziness makes Charles look better, it makes him look weak.
Remembering back a decade+ (???) with W&K claiming they were only going to do a handful of engagements to make them ‘more impactful’. As I wrote above, bread-and-butter engagements aren’t supposed to be impactful or newsworthy. Royals are supposed to show up so often to little local events that no one comments on how much they do or don’t work.
It has always been W&K’s intention from the start to do the least amount possible. Against the wishes of QEII, Philip, and even Charles.
A few years ago we got the line that W&K were going to pick 2-3 charities per year, ‘help’ with fundraising, then move on. Again, refusing to work with the 100+ charities they both should be working with, but picking 2-3 only. 1-2 visits per year to each of the 2-3 charities they were going to pick, that’s it.
As ArtHistorian writes above, they’re relying on PR and spin instead of work.
so I can see why it would make Charles look weak – both as a father and a leader- but it does absolutely make him look better. Look in this post at how many comments are referencing Charles’ work ethic as PoW. He likes that. He likes that people say “well at least Charles worked…..”
now the flip side of course is that W&K not working make the monarchy look bad in general, so that’s where it makes him look weak IMO, and that’s where I think he’s stuck. It’s like he can’t figure out which means more to him……to seem like he was a better PoW than William, or to have the monarchy look like it’s functioning the way it did under QEII.
That doesnt’ have anything to do with W&K’s long-telegraphed plan to not work and “new way of royal work” or whatever else they said. That was 100% because of their laziness and like I said, is a clear choice on their parts.
When Anne gave that interview about the old way is often the better way of doing things, it wasn’t solely an attack on H and M because it’s obvious W and K don’t work the same way as every other royal.
the more and more I think about her comments, the more I think it was about W&K. Yes H&M were trying to do things differently but they were also actually “doing things” not just having phone calls with their secretary and counting that as an engagement.
Old, lazy, unsightly, lazy, arrogant, stupid, tone-deaf, entitled, vapid, evil and RACIST.
You’re so right. Unsightly is also right. Chuck and Cowmilla appear to have skipped personal hygiene instruction. I’m not even kidding. It’s gross.
I don’t find any of them easy on the eyes, not even Kate or Sophie. And Camilla looks like she was born in the 1800s. I know people in their 70s who look far younger than Old Leatherguts … and people in their late 50s who look younger than Kate.
It’s not their skin that bothers me. They are elderly and most people’s skin will get decrepit as they age, especially with the amount the royal family seem to drink? But for me with the older royals it is the teeth that are so gross. Camilla seems to have had some dental help somewhere along the way but especially Charles and Andrew, yuck. They have money to get whitening and Invisalign! No excuse!
The Express is usually very supportive of the royals. I think it’s extraordinary that they choose this as a headline mere weeks before the Coronation. It simply wouldn’t have happened, say, this time last year. The mood really is changing.
Anyway, the obvious thing would be to get W+K to do more, because they are both extremely lazy, which is increasingly impossible to ignore, especially when you compare them to the rest of the family. Not only that, but their “projects” lack impact and substance, and are poorly thought out.
I don’t think the answer is to look to the Edinburgh kids – they’re too far down the line of succession. (The Gloucesters/Kents are too, but at least they started off high on the list). And no one should be relying on members of the family who are in their 70’s and 80’s.
Beatrice and Eugenie have always done bits and pieces for the family, which I guess means they’re half-in half-out. So it is allowed .. sometimes.
I think you are mixing up the Express and the Mirror
yes very true on the cornwall stuff (he’s not technically been invested as pow yet, not sure how any of that works financially etc.)…
Anne has managed it because she’s not constantly in the headlines. I am all for jumping on the trash Wills train, don’t get me wrong, but I do wonder, having heard Harry speak on it, what’s actually happening behind the curtain. I wouldn’t be surprised if Chuck is still controlling, but I am also not against the lazy narrative. I just think it’s an easy narrative already fed to us by daily fail etc., (similar to the “camilla doesn’t care about titles” narrative) so I’d personally am curious as to whats actual truth.
He does not need to be invested as PoW to BE PoW (charles named him PoW and issued letters patent, he’s PoW), and there is no money attached to the PoW title anyway. the money comes from the duchy of cornwall.
If W&K were not lazy, we would see more evidence of it, like we saw with Harry as a working royal. No one called him lazy as a working royal. He was able to get things done. William and Kate are not doing anything behind the scenes that we aren’t seeing etc. We can see what H&M were able to do as royals with presumably even more restrictions than W&K and see what W&K are doing now, 7 months into being PoW, and its clear the issue is with W&K,.
Harry was doing tours on his own in the Caribbean while the heir was playing helicopter pilot. Harry has also done tours on the African continent which the heir and his wife have yet to do 12 years in their marriage.
Agreed on all of this that Charles will not be outshown and Camzilla will feed her Rota pets all sorts of denigrating stories about the heirs being lazy to prop themselves up. It is entirely a short-term strategy but it’s okay because Charles definitely does not care about the monarchy after he’s dead. I think he’s just fine being the last King of the Commonwealth and maybe England. Good luck Wills.
Here’s my two pence worth of thoughts.
Could be totally wrong.
1. I think Camilla maybe setting the stage for titles for her children to step in as working royals.
2. Now that Will has his own income and is not dependent on Charles – he has no interest in propping up C & C’s reign. Quite safe to say they can’t stand each other and just show comradeship for optics. They probably have a lot of stuff on Will to make him behave unwillingly.
3. I think the negative articles about Kate now trickling in are likely down to Cams. She is currently the more popular (and least controversial) amongst the Royalist crowd. Hence the need to whittle her down further. They are probably separated and her husband couldn’t care less.
Would like to see the legalities to make that happen.
I’d say the other five – W&K, Edward & Sophie, and Parker Bowles – need to step up and significantly increase the number of engagements they do, AND fulfill those engagements with charm, enthusiasm and genuine interest. Yes!
Charles and Anne are already doing the heavy lifting and each does several per day. The other five need to do similar numbers starting immediately. Immediately.
And if the other five are unsure how to be charming, enthusiastic and genuinely interested they better study videos of H&M out and about while they were still working members of the family.
It’s either that or their funding is cut in half until they do
Edward and Sophie have in the past done over 300 to 400 engagements each, and this with school aged children. Sophie has also done substantive tours on her own involving more than going down slides.
The issue isn’t Edward and Sophie. It’s William and Kate, being lazy from day one.
Honestly, I think this is more about Charles not wanting to be upstaged by William than about laziness. He wants to be the star — thats why he wants to have a slimmed down monarchy. More spotlight for him and less for other members. I think all decisions about how much William and Kate are working comes down to Charles and how much press coverage he wants for a particular day.
EasternViolet, but how could KFC be able to stop WanK from working. Fails now has all of the cash he needs, so KFC can’t use money to control him. All Fails needs to do is start scheduling things and then do them. Wails can do the same thing. That’s it. There’s nothing that KFC can do, because you can bet it would leak if he told WanK not to work as much.
I think Fails told Harry that the reason he doesn’t work more is because of KFC, but I don’t believe it. I believe that WanK don’t want to work, so they do the bare minimum. That’s not going to cut it, but good luck getting either of them working.
There maybe something in your statement, and may add respectfully that Charles’ s vision is that of the monarchy is just for the monarch.
It is much more than him being the head of state and the royal family. The monarch is the monarchy, unlike his mother. She provided for the other members of her immediate and extended family and highlighted them at state occasions by sharing her appearance on the balcony with all the them.
Queen Elizabeth’s reign was all about the individuals representing the monarchy, understanding that at peak times in their lives the spotlight will be on them and then shift as they settle in. Everyone was aware that she is the Head of State, but her husband Prince Philip as the head of their immediate family.
King Charles 111 wants the individuals representing the monarchy not get any spotlight so he decided to go for a slimmed down monarchy, of which Harry would be a part of wherein he’ll be totally controlled by the purse strings.
It would be no longer about the royal family,( that seemed expendable), it is the monarch and his immediate circle.
Less people more cache…..
The power lie to those closest to him – his wife. Under normal circumstances she would’ve been the mother to the heir.
While his heir may share his view on this matter, he does not have his work ethic and/or not allowed to overshadow him
Harry left, Andrew forced to step down and then there are the Wales, (and everything that was already said about them) – that now he planning an overhaul of the system and maybe forced to add additional family members.
Time would tell…….
I have always held out hope that the monarchy would (unintentionally) abolish itself. I can totally see William oversleeping and not showing up for his coronation and everyone deciding to call it a day.
Exactly @Brassy Rebel there is something very grumpy teenager about PoW as in “I don’t wanna and you can’t make me!” Both PoWs are lazy, mediocre, uncurious about others and real life problems which don’t affect them and racist and rude. I wouldn’t hire either of them to promote any cause or organization unless it was White Elite First!! This is a very revealing front page from a tabloid because it shines a spotlight on RF’s slimmed down core of , ahem, working royals(the ultimate oxymoron!) Not cutting enough ribbons at home and certainly not cutting through aboard either!
Well they seem to be doing a dandy job shooting themselves in the collective feet again and again. They’re like the gang that couldn’t shoot straight. I do believe they will self-destruct over time, and it’s clear William and Kate couldn’t run a 2-person funeral procession let alone a monarchy.
William and Kate couldn’t run a vacuum.
I bet there would more applications for “End of the Monarchy” parties than there have been for this coronation.
Definitely more volunteers for bell ringers!
These comments are right on the mark.
A combo of Charles wants the spotlight to himself + the younger royals are not interesting and/or work shy.
The wheezing out dated Monarchy days are numbered.
I wish Canada, Scotland, Ireland, Oz and everyone in the common wealth would toss the Monarchy out.
@HeyKay: *Ireland* has not been part of the British Commonwealth since 1949, when it became a Republic.
*Northern Ireland* is in a very, very different and difficult constitutional position, and has no clout to wield in the CW.
PunkPrincessPhD, with the money the US is investing into No. Ireland and the fact that Biden’s said that companies want to invest in No. Ireland, it may be in the not too distant future that No. Ireland will be in a position to cut ties with the UK. No wonder the UK government, bm and brf are pissed at Biden.
Canadian here — I wish it was possible to quickly toss out the King as our monarch, but it would take decades. The Canadian constitution would have to be completely rewritten, every province would have to hold a referendum on staying or leaving, and separate agreements with some 30+ First Nations peoples who have direct ties with the crown would have to be re-negotiated. It would be many, MANY years of ceaseless squabbling between our 3 main political parties as well as they hold very different opinions on being part of the Commonwealth.
Jaded, well, when the Monarchy falls, and it will, the decision will be taken out of everyone’s hands. The Canadian government should be working with the First Nations now to work out treaties that are acceptable to the First Nations. Wouldn’t that be the best thing for them? What would happen if the Monarchy falls and they don’t have agreements?
Do First Nations people with direct ties to the crown get that many benefits from the association? Also, didn’t some of those treaties predate the formation of Canada the nation? How is the Crown still honoring First Nation treaties? There are only 13 provinces. That CTV link provided in #17 above gave the province breakdown comprising the 19% pro-monarchy and none of them were above 24% pro-King. Inertia seems to be powerful force.
Sounds like a description of a ‘slimmed down monarchy’. If the grand plan is to only feature the king, his heir and their wives then then ‘work’ expectations need to be brought down to next to nothing. Harry and Meghan wanted to be part-time, as other working royals have been, but the gold standard courtiers convinced the queen it wasn’t an option.
“When Charles decided to side with William and sign off on the Sussexes’ exit – with no “half-in” option – he did so with the belief that William would step up with Harry gone”
He also believed that Harry would be back in the fold within a year. Charles’ slimmed down monarchy was always a smoke screen to make the public believe that he was actually reducing spending. Harry and Meghan’s eviction from Frogmore is another one. It’s interesting to see some royalists in recent days criticising William and Kate for taking a month off and for not stepping up.
The bm is really scraping the bottom of the barrel for stories, aren’t they? It’s time that WanK starts dancing to their tune.
Abolish itself? They should hold a seance to contact Kate’s ancestor for some pointers, since I believe the British press has recently credited her with abolishing all slavery everywhere for all time.
This is the article I was so hopeing Kaiser would have seen. Remember all those “the monarchy doesn’t need Harry and Megan”, or “the monarchy will go from strength to strength without being overshadowed by the Harry and Megan thing”. 🤣🤣🤣🤣Yep, sure are thriving, yep, strength to strength NOT. Now Charlie boy you were warned, just think back to when your mother had to stick her Royal shoe up lazy khates arse to get her working, and Khate did didn’t she, she “WORKED” at getting pregnant 3 times, so that the only labour she had to do was child birth in her PRIVATE hospital. And hey presto, she had and has 3 excuses to continually bunk of working very much. William was always a lazy git, even the people he “worked” (small w) with at the air rescue moaned like hell because he didn’t full fill his flight hours! Now, I may be wrong, but please mark the date, because I have a strong feeling that Charlie boy has woken up and realises just how much HE NEEDS HARRY AND MEGAN. The public will NEVER accept camzillas kids as working Royals, 95 %of them don’t accept her as queen! So I think Charlie is going to do some major, major kissing up to Harry and Megan and will try and convince them that half in half out was HIS IDEA and he wants them to agree with it, and further more, he will tell the prince of incandescence and the princess of mean, to button it, no briefing, no snubs and definitely no leaks or there won’t be any thrones for them to inherit. There is no way on gods green earth that Charlie’s vanity would allow history to show him as the man who lost the monarchy
Thanks for your comment Mary Pester. As I read through this thread, I wondered what the public response to Camilla’s kids might — most likely — be. I’m imagining respect for Anne and people like the Duke of Kent — if the royals in that generation don’t retire completely. I’d personally be interested In Beatrice, but that’s about it. The opportunity to shake hands with the un-royal kid of a disliked step-Queen just doesn’t seem like much of a draw.
Slight derail: I’m wondering how many people will have attended more than one coronation— and actually be in a position to compare them. I’m guessing the Duke of Kent, a very young Charles, and a tiny handful of others? I do plan to look out for articles since this is the sort of minutiae that, for me, kind of grounds the fluff in history and makes it more interesting.
@Blithe, good points all of them. Princess Ann has always been respected, her daughter isn’t to bad but has made some nasty comments about Megan, and as for that thug Tindal, they should send him back to the jungle and leave him there. Further point, isn’t it funny how it’s all about how “Royal” they all are, and how they would never demean the monarchy 🤣🤣so now the Tindal family are making a kardashianesque programme, “at home with the Tindals” 🤣🤣next thing you know, Kate and willy will have a new version of game of thrones released
I think there is also no way Camilla’s ego wants Harry and Meghan back in the country, nor will she be able to keep her mouth shut about the Sussex family. Ditto the Wales family. I truly hope the future of the monarchy is keeping Chuckie awake nights.
@Mary Pester
I disagree. Chucks actions were to strip Harry and his grand kids of their only home in England. Everything else is just PR spin to make Chuck look benevolent. He does not want Harry back in England at all.
@solidgold, either of us could be right lovey. But I’m going by Charlie’s past behaviour, fergie, back at Christmas after so long cast out by him, Andrew the same, Sophie, he even tried to get Diana back into the Royal circles but she said NO and camzilla didn’t like it. He hasn’t got enough people to keep the Royal plates spinning. So let’s wait and see
Well, now everyone can see how much they were relying on an elderly woman (QE2) to do all the heavy lifting.
How did they print this without citing that TQ who died in September and was 96 and dying still out performed Executive Barbie as she carried out 130 engagements to Barbie’s 90!! Didn’t someone work out on Twitter that those 90 engagements worked out as barely the equivalent of 2 “works” days a month?!
That much! Dear God, she must be exhausted.
Didn’t Will & Kate have these grand plans that they were going to do community events? Swan into an area for a few days and do many events there? Instead of just popping in to open a tiny curtain? All part of showing how what modern royals they were?
Yes they did, but at the same time they said those community days are so so HARD for their staff to pull together, (cue violins) so don’t expect them too often, or actually ever again honestly. Kate and Willy love making announcements more than anything else. It gives them hope that one day, they will be different than they are but it all just peters out eventually.
I love this for them. Bless. (Also now it makes sense why KkkHate and Cowzilla tried so desperately to lob off the well know KKKhate title “duchess Doolittle” to happily married hard working award winning California Megan lol )
The article is ridiculous. The “make work” the royals do is just that, made up work to give the others something to do to justify why the need money. The only two with an actual role in the monarchy is Chuck and Bill. All the others are leeches and should be made to go find actual work.
This is an unsolvable problem, because monarchy is stupid and obsolete in the 21st century. Older generations who admired the monarchy are dying.
A slow fade — rather than revolution — is the best the BaRF could hope for. And I doubt Charles really cares. He’d probably fancy the idea of being known in history as England’s last king.
That man is aging like rotten eggs. Whew.
Just imagine if Billiam alienates himself from everything and everyone only for the monarchy to be abolished before he becomes king. Ooooooooeeeee!
From your lips to God’s ears!
I seem to recall that the Queen wanted Harry and Meghan to be her overseas touring Royal Family reps. Sadly she let her partnership with the Media mess that up. They would have been dynamic.
This feels very much like the tabloids saying you deliver us some headlines or we will go on the attack.
So not too dissimilar to Camilla-Too-Many-Gins warnings about H&M in 2018 shortly after the wedding when she tweeted that if Harry did not allow Rota access to Meghan that they would just make up stories about her.
This is the beginning of the end for the crusty bunch hence why Kate is finding herself under the wheels of the London Routemaster of late. They need a fall man or woman to keep the toxic tabloids fed and Chuckles will be dammed if it’s Camilla.
By upping and leaving the Sussexes created a vacancy for a Patsy, so they are now putting the BRF on notice – i.e. we can make or break you.
Kate you in danger girl – and I love that for you.
Even if they DID ramp up their public visits with the poors and show up at the opening of an envelope, what do they really DO? It accomplishes nothing unless it’s done in concert with a coordinated message to help, to donate — even if it’s only volunteering — include a website, what the foodbanks need specifically, hire a truck to bring in boxes of Duchy products, do SOMETHING of substance. But no, they just show up for a few minutes, grace the peons with their royal presence, and f*ck off. So along with old and/or lazy, I’d include completely tone deaf to what the needs of the people they represent actually are, and the BRF must respond accordingly and generously.
@JADED, exactly lovey, they don’t actually work
Not work in the sence that others know and live by. Maybe it’s all the muscles they have to flex to smile, maybe they worry about RSI if they wave to much,, maybe Khate has major concerns about where and when to get her botox touched up, and maybe BULLYAM just worries about when he can GIVE Rose another touch up. There, that’s their job, they worry lol, because in their eyes, actual graft is just for us plebs
SIGH…it’s depressing isn’t it, and all the more infuriating for you as a Brit I’m sure. As a Canadian I can look at this from a safe distance, but we still have to have UpChuck as our head of state. Yuck to UpChuck.
BTW, I really like you calling me “lovey”!!
This story is hitting the U.S. media and the comments are not good for the family! I love it!
“That was always the flaw in Charles’s design for a slimmed down monarchy – he believed that his heir would step up and work as much as Charles did when he was Prince of Wales. That’s not going to happen….”
I disagree. We have known for 12 years, since the now Waleses’ marriage that they had no intention of continuing the little bread and butter visits of Royals for openings, dedications, community service events…. They announced very early on that they intended to consolidate their support for charities in their own Trust, with them doing mainly only a few big gala-type events per year.
The Waleses’ intention then was that donations to the Trust would trickle down to charities under the umbrella of that Trust. Well, early on that proved to be very damaging to smaller charities that came in under the Trust. One charity reported that they received less money under the Trust than they did operating independently and fundraising on their own. And, because they were now under the Trust they were not allowed to seek outside funding.
Charles also knew that William was not interested in carrying on with his Prince’s Trust. Yet, notwithstanding his knowledge of the Waleses’ plan for doing less work (including visits and walkabouts), Charles decided that the Monarchy needs to be slimmed down with fewer working Royals.
I think charles, and before him the Queen, misjudged the value, in terms of support for the monarchy, of the more routine and regular Royal visits. I don’t think this has anything to do with any surprise that the Waleses are not intending on stepping up and working more.
Exactly.
“One charity reported that they received less money under the Trust than they did operating independently and fundraising on their own. And, because they were now under the Trust they were not allowed to seek outside funding.”
You’ve got to be kidding me. Getting the royal imprimatur requires non-compete compliance? Unwarranted arrogance if that’s the case.
Well said! But I always struggle to understand the “working royals”. Appearing at an event dressed to the nines where everything is stage managed for you doesn’t sound much like work. I don’t get why they find it so difficult.
I’m just loling at the reference to a “shock report.”. Honestly, I think we all know that if not Charles, William will be the last monarch. Noone cares. Everyone let it go along this long basically out of respect for Elizabeth II. There is no way it gets to George. Unless Charles passes away relatively soon I actually wouldn’t be surprised if it never got to William. Just let them do nothing, none of it even matters and it just becomes more plain to see as time goes on.
The funniest part is, if it ends before William can become king then he’ll be stuck paying all that inheritance tax when Chuck moves on to hotter ground lol.
Oh yes where Charles and Her are going it’s going to be MIGHTY HOT! They’ve been expecting the both of them since around the 1980s. They’ll feel right at home as there’s lots of crimson carpet in the area prepared for them. 😈
I’ve read the entire thread. I still don’t understand or get what William is thinking. Is this why everyone said he needed Harry? Maybe he doesn’t care. Maybe he’s dumb or immature or selfish and the staff really have nothing to work with. How does he envision the future? Perhaps by the time he is king he can rely on his children to invigorate the monarchy
He thought he would send Harry and whom ever he married to do all the work, while he sat back and took the credit, of course. He forgot that, when his jealousy took over and he participated in running H&M off! When the dust settled, he realized NOW he and do-little had to do all the work! LOL
@KirK
“Do First Nations people with direct ties to the crown get that many benefits from the association? Also, didn’t some of those treaties predate the formation of Canada the nation? How is the Crown still honoring First Nation treaties? There are only 13 provinces. That CTV link provided in #17 above gave the province breakdown comprising the 19% pro-monarchy and none of them were above 24% pro-King. Inertia seems to be powerful force.”
The Crown expects the Canadian Government to honour its treaties. Some treaties are on the provincial level and they differ from province to province.
Inertia seems to be powerful force.
That CTV link provided is interesting in that the funding for the survey came from “Afghan Journalists in Residence Project funded by Meta.”
Remarkable – Afghan journalists are that interested in Canada’s place in the British Empire?
Charles need to stop being so stingy and hire some working royals and pay them a salary, benefits, annual bonus, pension plan, company car, and a free house while they’re working for the firm.
Charles wants to stay in a bubble and run things his way and everybody do as he says or there will be hell to pay especially with the Uk media-if anyone thinks Camilla will allow herself to be outshone at anytime-I got a bridge to sell you-she will not tolerate anyone getting into her sphere of sunshine-Charles has probably already assured her -he won’t let this happen at any cost-this reign will be entirely about Charles and Camilla -everybody else should take a seat, be quiet as you can and don’t make the volcano Camilla erupt. stay in your place and don’t make waves.
WK has been work shy and lazy even before HM became a couple. You think WK will change now. When Kate was rolling her eyes during an event in Harlem years ago, many people thought it was cute and sympathized with her. Back then, I already saw her true colors – rude, arrogant, and lazy. She definitely did not want to be there. Yeah she’s pregnant, but majority of people in the world works while being pregnant. The British tabloids and their trolls in social media are the only ones that has been labeling them as saints to the point that it’s starting to make people vomit. The fact that their homegrown papers are saying all these things about the future of their monarchy speaks volumes.
Honestly I think the York Princesses would be a great addition to the monarchy. They’re young, relatively untouched by scandal (it’s not their fault their father is a rapist paedophile) and mostly seem to have their shit figured out. The Kents and Gloucesters are in their 80s and should be pensioned off. If you cut at least 4 elderly royals and gain two young ones it’s still a steamlining.
No, you cannot set aside the fact that their father is a rapist. Beatrice and Eugenie will not be working royals.
If Charles pensions off the eldest royals, some of them lose their housing and their living stipend. The Gloucesters and Princess Alexandra don’t care, they’re financially set. But neither Duke of Kent nor Prince Michael of Kent have any private funds. Who cares what happens to Prince Michael, but Duke of Kent has served his entire life and doesn’t deserve to be thrown out on the street.