It continues to be utterly bizarre to watch the British news channels and Buckingham Palace actually *debate* whether the royals get to edit or censor coverage of state events. It happened during Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral too, which was a “state funeral,” paid for by the British taxpayers. The palace demanded that various edits be made to the broadcast, and the palace somehow “owns” the funeral footage too. That is just… completely idiotic, especially for an institution which is supposed to be only symbolically powerful. Well, the exact same thing is happening with the coronation, except British broadcasters are fighting back against the palace.
The BBC, ITN and Sky are playing “hardball” with Buckingham Palace in an attempt to ensure that they have free rein over video of the coronation. Discussions are under way with royal officials about removing the restrictions imposed on highlights programmes after they were only allowed to use 60 minutes of material from the late Queen’s funeral.
In September The Guardian revealed that the broadcasters were given several days to submit a short compilation from the ten days of mourning for the palace to approve for future use, with all other material taken out of circulation. As well as giving them greater editorial control, the broadcasters are keen to secure freedom for the context in which the video is used, so they can be included in an array of programmes without the palace having to grant express permission first.
“The broadcasters are playing harder ball than we did last time,” a person familiar with the talks said. “We aren’t taking anything lying down.”
With a second source confirming that talks are continuing, the view from the group is that there is a clear difference between the stance the palace took over the funeral and next month’s celebratory event. “It was fair to an extent for them to say that the funeral was a family occasion with particular sensitivities but the coronation is a far more overtly public event and so the bar [for blocking video] should be higher,” a source said.
The broadcasters’ primary ambition is to ensure that they are able to make the best possible content available to audiences after the event. “Ultimately this comes down to the editorial,” they added. “We are spending a lot of money and putting a lot of time and energy into the coronation. “Crucially it is a historic, taxpayer-funded event and if [palace concerns] are about maintaining the smoke and mirrors of monarchy then what’s that about?”
They added that it is vital that they are trusted to act responsibly, pointing to previous decisions to expunge moments that were considered inappropriate from follow-up shows without the need for prompting from the palace. While the broadcasters do not share any revenue generated from the highlights programming with the palace, they fund the cost of the production, which they do not expect to recoup fully.
[From The Times]
“It was fair to an extent for them to say that the funeral was a family occasion” – no, it wasn’t. It was a state funeral, held at Westminster Abbey. Broadcasters should have full rights to all of their own footage!! One could argue – I suppose – that QEII’s second service, the one at Windsor Castle, was more of the “family service.” But again, it was all part of the STATE FUNERAL. Because QEII was the sitting head of state. Just as King Charles is the current head of state, and the coronation is a state event, funded by taxpayers. Why are British broadcasters bowing and scraping over this? Why is the palace behaving like the coronation is a private party, the broadcast rights to which they own completely?
Meanwhile, the palace confirmed last week that the moment of “anointment” will not be shown on camera during the Chubbly. Part of the unholy alliance between church and state means that the Archbishop of Canterbury will anoint Charles with holy oil, but the palace has told broadcasters that they can’t show it.
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King Charles III delivers his address to the nation and the Commonwealth from Buckingham Palace, London, following the death of Queen Elizabeth II on Thursday. Picture date: Friday September 9, 2022. . .,Image: 721402925, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: NO UK USE FOR 48 HOURS- Fee Payable Upon reproduction – For queries contact Avalon sales@Avalon.red London +44 20 7421 6000 Los Angeles +1 310 822 0419 Berlin +49 30 76 212 251 Madrid +34 91 533 42 89, Model Release: no, Credit line: Avalon.red / Avalon
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King Charles III during the Accession Council at St James’s Palace, London, where King Charles III is formally proclaimed monarch. Charles automatically became King on the death of his mother, but the Accession Council, attended by Privy Councillors, confirms his role. Picture date: Saturday September 10, 2022. . .,Image: 721404798, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: NO UK USE FOR 48 HOURS- Fee Payable Upon reproduction – For queries contact Avalon sales@Avalon.red London +44 20 7421 6000 Los Angeles +1 310 822 0419 Berlin +49 30 76 212 251 Madrid +34 91 533 42 89, Model Release: no, Credit line: Avalon.red / Avalon
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King Charles III during the Accession Council at St James’s Palace, London, where King Charles III is formally proclaimed monarch. Charles automatically became King on the death of his mother, but the Accession Council, attended by Privy Councillors, confirms his role. Picture date: Saturday September 10, 2022. . .,Image: 721406187, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: NO UK USE FOR 48 HOURS- Fee Payable Upon reproduction – For queries contact Avalon sales@Avalon.red London +44 20 7421 6000 Los Angeles +1 310 822 0419 Berlin +49 30 76 212 251 Madrid +34 91 533 42 89, Model Release: no, Credit line: Avalon.red / Avalon
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King Charles III and the Queen Consort at Westminster Hall, London, where both Houses of Parliament are meeting to express their condolences following the death of Queen Elizabeth II.,Image: 721928710, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Stefan Rousseau / Avalon
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Britain’s King Charles III at the presentation of Addresses by both Houses of Parliament in Westminster Hall, inside the Palace of Westminster, central London on September 12, 2022, following the death of Queen Elizabeth II on September 8.,Image: 721936686, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Eddie Mulholland for The Telegraph / Avalon
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Britain’s King Charles III and Britain’s Camilla, Queen Consort listen as The Speaker of The Commons Lindsay Hoyle (unseen) speaks during the presentation of Addresses by both Houses of Parliament in Westminster Hall, inside the Palace of Westminster, central London on September 12, 2022, following the death of Queen Elizabeth II on September 8.,Image: 721936899, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: BEN STANSALL / Avalon
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Britain’s King Charles III speaks during the presentation of Addresses by both Houses of Parliament in Westminster Hall, inside the Palace of Westminster, central London on September 12, 2022, following the death of Queen Elizabeth II on September 8.,Image: 721936912, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: BEN STANSALL / Avalon
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London, UK, 19th Sep 2022. King Charles III. Behind the Coffin, King Charles III walks with Princess Anne, Prince Andrew and Prince Edward behind him, followed by Prince William and Prince Harry and Peter Phillips, and others. The Queen Consort, Princess of Wales, Duchess of Sussex and others follow in cars. The funeral procession for Queen Elizabeth II makests way from Westminster Abbey to Buckingham Palace, via Horse Guards Parade and the Mall. People line the street and watch military personnel march, and the coffin pass along the route. The procession is led by massed Pipers and Drums of Scottish and Irish Regiments, The Brigade of Gurkhas, the Royal Air Force and a total of 6,000 representatives from all three Armed Forces.,Image: 724175863, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Imageplotter / Avalon
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King Charles III leaving Clarence House, London, ahead of the ceremonial procession of the coffin of Queen Elizabeth II, from Buckingham Palace to Westminster Hall, London, where it will lie in state ahead of her funeral on Monday.
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Well then if Chuckles wants complete control over it then he should foot the bill for it! That’s how that should work.
The royals excel at having it both ways.
@brassyrebel, yes Especially Prince Peg 🤣. I can’t understand why they don’t just show an episode of The Munsters on every channel, same difference 🤔
Afraid to burn In hell live when that holy oil is administered to you and your side piece aren’t you chucky ?
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I was interested in watching because it’s history being made. I’ve read about coronations but never seen one. And this might be my last chance to see an English monarch crowned (fingers crossed). But if they’re cutting out the bits that are crucial to the ceremony, I’m out.
Seriously, why can’t they just say yeah no we all refuse to cover it unless we have control over the footage? King Charles will want a camera for this. What’s the alternative, he hires and pays for his own documentary team and then finds someone to buy and air it? He could try and go that route, I guess. A little late now and should he really do that for a state funded event? But all the channels would have to play hard ball together. Which I think they should. No one will cover if the palace insists on having editing rights and control over future coverage.
They all a bunch of thieves that BRF. All of them, except the Sussex family, are just a bunch of criminals dressed in royal robes.
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if this happened! Charles would implode. How dare they expect to be able to control what footage is shown! It’s a state event, not a private Windsor event.
Charles will want to edit the part when he trips over his cape.
Yes, he wants to edit out any embarrassing mistakes by him and Camila. Any stank faces by his family like they did at the Commonwealth service. Any potential outbursts from Will or Kate or their children. Most of all, they want to edit out any and all protest for the history books so they can lie and say his coronation was rapturous and the entire nation adores him, Camila and the monarchy.
They are still naive enough that the truth won’t spread like wildfire over the internet and by other countries media.
@ Snuffles, on top of wanting full control over the editing, they want full control for future content releases and the money that comes with it. It’s all about control and money with these grifters…..
He would definitely want to edit out if the crowd throws Tampax as the royal carriage goes by.
I suspect the main demand of the Palace is no media focus on Harry. We all know that this is exactly what the media wants to do.
Agree, and Charles usually put Harry directly behind him so that he Charles can be in every frame 🤣 why do I believe that Harry has asked to be seated elsewhere 🙄
It’s the only way I’m watching it—if Harry is prominent. I want to see Keen try to give Harry a festive longing glance and William pull himself back from assaulting Harry. And see Harry pretending none of that is happening at all.
🤭 me too!
This is the difference the First Amendment makes. As an American, it’s shocking to read about all the control the monarchy exerts over media coverage of state events. Unthinkable here. And the broadcasters even concede that the queen’s funeral was “a family occasion”? It was literally a state occasion. There is nothing to negotiate here. The taxpayers are footing the bill for this unnecessary extravaganza. Broadcasters should control all footage. It’s not that complicated.
The broadcasters spend a huge sum of money to film and produce this and are being told to turn it over for free! I don’t think so!
What’s interesting to me is the apparent power shift. Are the broadcasters picking up on a lack of interest in this Con and using it to push against the RF’s control? Many were interested in the funeral because QE had a long reign through many historical world events, and so the broadcasters had to eat whatever the RF dictated. But the Con? Does anyone except KFC, his sidepiece and her family, the Middleton, and about 500 uninvited aristos actually care? Especially since Meghan and POTUS won’t be going?
This is what’s giving me hope. I’m glad this debate is being publicised and people are realising his much of a con the royals are.
Initially I also wondered whether it was worth the bother given the general apathy towards the con-a-nation but now I’m thinking this will be great material to use in future coverage of the final days of the royals in which case BRING IT.
They aren’t going to show the moment he’s anointed with oil? Isn’t that moment the point of this whole circus? Are they afraid people will realize how crazy it is to think that this person was chosen by God to rule?
Im confused by that as well. Anybody have an explanation? Maybe they have to go under God’s skirt to oil up.
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It is because the anointing has always been a sacred moment. A sacrament.
And historically, the sacred has often been hidden.
If I recall, the anointing during QEII’s coronation was not televised either. Prince Philip suggested the coronation be televised, and I believe the Archbishop agreed only if the anointing was done off camera.
Queen Elizabeth didn’t show the anointing on TV, either. Prince Philip was the one pushing showing the coronation on TV, but Liz said no to the anointing part.
I was struck by how casually he’s flopped in that throne – like my kid on the couch and thisclose to manspreading. QEII was always emphatically regal, straight-backed, feet together, head up. Oh what a difference…
Charles is person of extremely low character.
And morals.
I do not sorry for the media. They allowed the institution to control and influence for them for too long. How are you broadcasting a program around the world and you will not receive any revenue generated?!?
So is this palace getting the money if the broadcasters aren’t? Because anybody that wants to air the event will have to pay right? Where does the money go then?
Straight into KFC’s pocket for him to set the price and it will be non negotiable.
If Chuckles wants to own the footage, then he needs to foot the bill for this ridiculous, obnoxious coronation. He can’t have it both ways – as spoken directly from the horses mouth.
I don’t believe for a second that the British media is playing hardball. They might be fighting back against some of the Palace demands (and I wouldn’t be surprised if one of them was that they avoided showing Harry as much as possible), but they are going to end up giving BP veto over the ceremony beacuse that’s just how the UK media works with the UK monarchy. They’re just pretending to fight because they got broadly criticised by the public after the funeral and how they meekly edited the footage on the Palace’s orders.
I’m certainly not getting up at 5 AM EST to watch this mess. Meghan will not be there., and I bet they want coverage of Harry limited or erased. I’m interested in the anti monarchy protests. Republic is planning a protest in Trafalgar Square on Con-a-Nation Day. The BRF won’t be able to control non UK media.
aquarius64, well if it’s 5AM on the East Coast it means it’s 2AM on the West Coast. This is a Saturday, too. How many people will be getting up early on a weekend to watch this? Not very many. I’m not going to watch it, because they just don’t interest me. Harry is the only one I’m interested in, and I’m hoping there will be very little footage of him.
And this is one of the many reasons so many Artists refuse to perform.
If Chuckles obtains rights to the footage then that causes legal headaches for them and their managing companies.
The BRF are so bad at this in so many ways and it shows.
LOL. In this case, “hardball” = “oh dear, this is terribly upsetting, we will need to have several meetings about this and 23 emails each consisting of 17 paragraphs of text discussing how upsetting this is…”
Seriously, the UK is progressing backwards into a medieval kingdom, or a banana republic with a dictator king. Controlling media is a bad sign. Press then is no longer free but a propaganda machine.
What if they throw a coronation and no one comes?🙏
The funeral was a state event, as is the coronation. The British press is a limp d—k —except when it comes to hounding the Sussexes.
QE2 was the monarch associated with televised coverage, so she determined how the press covered her visually even if it went against “the rules of the press” so to speak. KC is now finding out that the media is trying to figure out the new boundaries: they would rather not be bound to the same set of rules they followed with Elizabeth. Their respect for her did not carry over to him.
In addition, KC is partially responsible for the negative press coverage of the Sussexes. This led to thousands of negative articles on H&M to prop up KC and crew. Since the Sussexes left, there have been cracks where every once in a while, explanations of how the RF functions with the BM have emerged. Finding Freedom, the Oprah interview, the Netflix special, the BBC 2-part series, several articles in the Guardian… once the public is aware of how that works, they are less likely to support KC controlling his coverage and the news organizations have picked up on that.