Patti LuPone was told she’s too old to be in Schmigadoon: ‘it’s their loss’

I watched the first season of Schmigadoon. If you don’t know what that is, it’s a playful send up of Broadway musicals about a modern couple who happen into a world that exists as if it was a – wait for it – musical. Everything about the show should have been right up my alley – the ridiculous concept, the musical, the irony, the cast. But while I saw it through until the end, it fell short for me. I haven’t watched the second season… and now I know why! Those b@stards turned down Patti LuPone. As in, they had the opportunity to have Patti LuPone grace them with her presence and they said “no.” And if there is one thing La Patti is going to do, it’s tell on you. So she did. She told Mashable that she approached them for season one because she really wanted to be a part of it and was told she was too old. Uhm, they said what?! Patti surmised it by saying “it’s their loss!” No, Patti – it’s our loss.

Apple TV+’s Schmigadoon! is a delirious dream for theater kids, combining playful parodies of a slew of major musicals with an ensemble cast stuffed with Broadway stars. Incredibly; however, Patti LuPone, one of the celebrated living legends of the Great White Way, was denied a chance to join in.

Season 2 (aka Schmicago) spoofs the songs of Stephen Sondheim, with whom LuPone has worked repeatedly and iconically in shows like Company and Sweeney Todd(opens in a new tab). So, Mashable asked if she’d been approached about the musical TV series. In fact, she approached the show first for Season 1.

“I wanted to be in Schmigadoon!, and I was too old,” LuPone said. Asked what she meant, she responded, “Exactly what I said. We reached out to them and said I want to be in Schmigadoon!. They said, ‘Sorry. You’re too old.'”

“It’s so sad. And it’s depressing,” she said of the rejection, before declaring, “It’s their loss! I don’t know what else to say. I so wanted to be in it!”

[From Mashable]

While I am playing up the hyperbole to match the Broadway tone of the story, I am generally stunned by this. Keegan-Michael Key and Cecil Strong play the “modern couple” but the rest of the cast includes Alan Cummings, Kristin Chenowith, Jane Krakowski, Aaron Tveit, Ariana DeBose – some real theater powerhouses. People who would probably list Patti as their hero. In addition to those folks, as Kristy Puchko at Mashable points out, is Martin Short, who is 73 years old – the same age as Patti. Now I’m doubly ticked. Because this is ageist and sexist. There are people who should have a Golden Ticket for roles and one of them is Patti. If Patti wants to make an irreverent Apple TV+ musical, write her a part. If Patti wants a role on Ted Lasso, make room for another coach. If they’re remaking JAWS and she wants to play the shark? Give her a swim cap and call her Bruce for christsakes! Mashable reported that Apple hasn’t responded for comment. I’ll bet they haven’t. Whoever told Patti she was too old is currently hiding under a desk and the rest are trying to gather their notes because Patti keeps her receipts. She’s not worried about being liked. If some idiot told a woman with Patti’s credentials that she was too old to appear on a show for which she was overqualified to appear, she’ll put them on blast.

Thankfully some casting people have sense, though. And this news will especially delight my fellow Penny Dreadful fans. Patti is joining Kathryn Hahn and Aubrey Plaza in Agatha: Coven of Chaos. This is, of course, the Wandavision spin-off for Kathryn Han’s character Agatha Harkness. Patti plays Lilia Calderu, a 450-year-old Sicilian witch who’s been a part of the MCU since 1973. (Oh thank goodness – a role Patti’s not too old to play!) Honestly, if I don’t hear another word about Coven of Chaos until the premiere, I would still be on the edge of my seat to watch it. Witches? Patti? Kathryn and Aubrey? Say no more – I’m in.

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  1. Peachy says:

    #TeamPatti

    That’s absolutely absurd and I’m glad she blasted them. Patti is the epitome of fabulous! I didn’t watch Wanda vision but like the idea of her as a 450 year old witch (lol @ not too old to play that one!) so might check it out.

    This was straight up ageist and sexist af.

  2. Becks1 says:

    those Mother-effers. She would have been AMAZING. (btw, the second season of Schmigadoon is better than the first IMO – it’s called Schmicago, and its full of Sweeny Todd and Cabaret and Chicago references and Jane Krakowski is AMAZING in it.)

    But knowing Patti LuPone could have been in it and isn’t just infuriates me. Evita wants to be in your Apple TV musical series?? ALWAYS SAY YES!!

    • sunny says:

      Jane was so good in season one! The car number the baroness does is perfection! I thought overall the first season was ok but cute. I cannot believe they said no to Patti. That is insane!

  3. Bookie says:

    I adore Schmigadoon.
    For some reason, this story sounds a little sketchy.

  4. Frippery says:

    If PATTI LUPONE wants to be in your little musical, then PATTI LUPONE *gets* to be in your little musical.

    I can’t even.

    Too old for a particular part? Maybe. If you can’t rewrite the part. But then you give her a different part because it’s PATTI LUPONE.

  5. Jessica says:

    I am really shocked by this too. How can she NOT be on this show?? I tried to watch the first season and couldn’t get through it. I won’t even bother with the second knowing this. They should have been begging her to be on that show. I hope they now don’t come out and say she is too good and has too much star power to be on it hahahaha.

    I was excited about Agatha anyways and this just makes it even more exciting!

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      How does Martin Short make it into a TV show about Broadway musicals and Patti LuPone doesn’t? She is iconic at any age.

      • La Dolce Vita says:

        The answer to your question would be “misogyny”.
        I skipped “The Dig” for this reason. In real life, Edith Pretty was 56 years old – a 35 year old Carey Mulligan was cast to play her. In real life, Basil Brown was 51 years old – a 58 year old Ralph Fiennes was cast to play him.
        I ask you.

  6. Amy T says:

    Wait, what!???

    {no words}

  7. AnneL says:

    Well, that’s disappointing. I didn’t watch the first season, but we are watching “Scmicago” now and really enjoying it. My husband and I were both theater kids. The new season is great, but it would have been even better with Patti LuPone!

    Shout-out to the actor who plays “Topher” on Schmicago. He’s amazing and I have no idea who he is. Boy, does he nail the “Hair/Pippin” mash-up vibe to perfection.

    • Becks1 says:

      the first season is fun – its definitely more of a 1940s/50s musicals spoof. I think the second season is a lot better though.

      • AnneL says:

        I think one reason I didn’t watch the first season is that I am actually fond of those musicals but have also already seen them spoofed quite a bit? They’re cheesy but unpretentious.

        But for some reason there is a certain genre of 60s/70s show, like “Chicago” and “Sweet Charity,” that I have never liked. And those haven’t been broadly spoofed yet. They have some great songs and have engendered great performances, but they leave me cold.

        It’s the same with “Cabaret” to some degree. You know that SNL sketch where Kristen Whig plays Liza Minnelli trying to turn off a lamp? That’s how I feel watching those shows. My husband made the mistake of getting tickets to “Fosse!” early in our relationship. I loathed it. Spirit Fingers!

    • Andreea with 2e says:

      He’s Aaron Tveit!

      • AnneL says:

        No way! OK, now it makes sense that he’s amazing, lol. I’ve seen Tveit perform but they kind of transformed him here. I knew the guy could sing and act but didn’t know he was also funny!

        Why on Earth did HE not get cast as Marius in “Les Miz” over Eddie Redmayne? Like, why?!

      • Lightpurple says:

        That’s Tony winner Aaron Tveit!

      • MsDarcy says:

        @AnneL – he was in Les Mez, and played Enjorlas, possibly an even better role. He completely stole the thunder away from Eddie Redmayne when they were on the screen together. I absolutely love him, and do yourself a favor and google Aaron and Gavin Creel on youtube for their Miscast performances. Start with the Rent song. You won’t regret it.

  8. Paige Liberato says:

    I wonder if the main cast had any idea? I’m guessing no one asked them, because I imagine all those theater kids would have FLIPPED at the chance to work with such a legend! I imagine some of them will comment on this news.

    She was incredible in her small role in Crazy Ex Girlfriend on the CW. I’ll watch her as Bruce the Shark!

  9. Lightpurple says:

    But will she be appearing on The Gilded Age with all the other Tony winners?

  10. Ameerah M says:

    Same age as Martin Short- but SHE’S too old?? That makes me so mad on her behalf. Also – I LOVED her in Penny Dreadful. I miss that show so much.

    • La Dolce Vita says:

      Look at Martin Short in “Only Murders in the Building” – he was cast at the age of 71, Steve Martin was cast (cast himself) at the age of 76 and Selena Gomez was cast at the age of 29.

      Unsurprisingly, Steve Martin is the co-creator of this show, which explains a lot. He has always creeped me out since “Shopgirl” when a female interviewer asked him about casting a huge age gap between himself (then 60) opposite a 26 year old Claire Danes. His reply was gross and smug “I think it works better that way, don’t you?” Better for who though?
      He was dating a 33 year old woman at the time. Ugh.

  11. JM says:

    I put this show on when I knit because it’s silly and entertaining but doesn’t require my full attention. That said…something about it just misses the mark. I really don’t like Cecil or her character…or maybe I don’t like her playing the character? Something about her always pulls me out of the immersion. Jane and Dove are amazing though. And I really really enjoyed Ariana as Ms Tate in season one, and I’m living for Titus in season two. His voice is just so good and I LOVE his attitude. It’s perfect for the “schmicago-verse”. Honestly I think he’s the real draw to season 2. Oh and Jamie Camil! I was really excited to see him even if his character drove me nuts in season one. I’ve loved him since Jane the Virgin

    Edit: what did I say that triggered waiting for moderation

  12. Leonsmomma says:

    I grew up going to Broadway shows in NYC — i remember all of the Schmcago musicals being advertised but were too adult for me at the time. People forget there were revivals going on of older shows at that time too and other less “dark” musicals so we went a lot. (I ended up seeing revivals either in NYC or elsewhere.)

    Saw Patti Lupone as the original Evita and she was glorious. That said, and having grown up in a town that had a number of actors living there, Lupone had a rep as a diva.

    Well, she is a diva and I mean that in a good way!

    What this strikes me as is someone worked with her in the past and said “never again.”

    Also she is most identified from that era as being an Andrew Lloyd Webber regular and I dont see that in this show at all (now that is the snub I am wondering about, though his shows dont have the same vibe as these, but still.)

    Anyhow she is a legend and if she wants a part, give it to her. I am sure most of the cast would be thrilled to work with her.

    • Sandy B says:

      I think I agree with you. She is a great Broadway star but it seems like I’m always reading stories of her conflicts with others actors and producers and I remember her yelling from the stage at an audience member who didn’t have a mask on. I’m not saying she was wrong to object but she went full contemptuous diva on the person. She just seems like she’d be hard to work with and maybe the people in charge didn’t want the aggravation. That being said, when I think of great Broadway musical stars I don’t think of Martin Short first. And if Patti is too old so is Martin.

    • Gubbinal says:

      Patti sued Lloyd-Webber because he did not want her in the NYC production of Sunset Blvd. going for Glenn Close instead. I love Patti and according to the Guardian, “In the US, she is so famous she has played herself on Glee, Will & Grace and Girls, always three parts brassy, one part terrifying and two parts hilarious, which turns out to be pretty much what she’s like in real life.” (2018).

      This is the perfect matching bookend for the way C3 is snubbing Lady Pamela Hicks.

      • Sandy B says:

        Apparently Patti used part of the $1 million settlement she got from Lloyd Webber to put in a pool at her Connecticut home which she named the Andrew Lloyd Webber Memorial Pool.

    • Becks1 says:

      My bet is Andrew Lloyd Webber and maybe Les Mis will be in season 3, if there is a third season.

    • Bee says:

      I also got to see her as Evita (with Mandy Patinkin!) and it was amazing. She was brilliant in POSE! also, as the Leona Helmsley inspired character. And her pandemic videos were great.

      Whoever turned her down… have to be idiots.

    • FHMom says:

      Patti and Mandy Patinkin were amazing in Evita. It is my all time favorite show. I can’t believe anyone would turn down Patti Lupone.

  13. Frippery says:

    I just peeped at the cast list for Coven of Chaos and in addition to Patti, Aubrey Plaza and Kathryn Hahn, Debra Jo Rupp is one of the stars? And Emma Caulfield is coming back!

  14. arhus says:

    Ok maybe she auditioned for a specific PART that would be better younger? I doubt she was just like is there a role for me and they said no esp with those actors you mentioned already in Schmiggy

  15. Mee says:

    For those of you ‘doubting this happened, there must be more etc…’ it’s Hollywood, I have friends in there. She was probably told, through her agent, she’s too old. If this show is produced by men they don’t flinch to tell a woman she’s too old. A statement they would never utter to a man. You’d all fall over if you were in a room with male EP and heard how they talk about actresses. 90% of what they talk about is not her talent.
    Have you noticed almost every single male show lead still has a younger female love interest, albeit not the 1/2 his age nonsense they used to do. A woman the same age will be considered ‘too old’ to be his love interest.

    • La Dolce Vita says:

      Totally.

      The female lead will still be ten or so years younger than the male lead – as you say, they probably consider it to be huge progress that she is no longer half the age of the male lead.

      Look at the casting calls for most movies and TV – they will limit the actress age range to 22-28 but then leave the actor age range to go up to 38 – and that’s for generic couples – there are, of course, often much bigger age gaps between major male movie stars and their female counterpart.

  16. HeyKay says:

    I say if Patti is interested, Patti gets what she wants, and quickly! 👍

    Also, Christine Ebersole is now on the tv show Mike 💕 Abishola as the Mom.
    Maybe once a season, she sings a tiny bit. What a waste, Broadway singing talent = more please.

    I wish someone would talk Nathan Lane, Ms. Patti, and Mandy Patinkin into doing weekly show, beautiful singing please. 👍

  17. bisynaptic says:

    W.T.F.

  18. Jessica says:

    What?!? That’s just ridiculous. She’s amazing!! They should be BEGGING her!🙄

  19. Maryscott OConnor says:

    Something about this doesn’t sound entirely accurate. I adore Ms. LuPone, but I suspect something got lost in translation.

  20. La Dolce Vita says:

    “Give her a swim cap and call her Bruce for christsakes!”
    A brilliant one-liner.