‘Nostalgia and vanity, and ultimately self-deceit’ has led to most the UK’s problems

My new favorite thing this week is watching all of the international press outlets go “hey, there’s going to be a coronation on Saturday, we should do a piece about how the British monarchy is in crisis and everyone hates the new king and queen.” Just article after article, column after column, poll after poll of that. Especially in the British commonwealth. Stephen Marche wrote a “view from Canada” of the “absurd” coronation for the Guardian, and I just wanted everyone to enjoy some highlights:

Charles the Third: “Say it out loud and try not to snicker: “The coronation of Charles the Third.” In a time of post-post-colonialism, of anti-racist iconoclasm, a time in which the very notion of gender as a legitimate distinction is contested, and Christianity has been reduced to a scandal management system with costumes, a 74-year-old British gentleman will ride a fancy carriage to an old church where a few other elderly British gentlemen in gilded dresses will declare him emperor, patriarch and head of state because God says so.

An unpopular event: The coronation cannot be described as a popular event. In April, various polls gauging the public mood around Charles’s ascension found that only 15% of the British population were “very interested” in the coronation. In Canada, where I live, the majority of citizens are in favor of severing ties with the monarchy altogether (up to 70% in Quebec). The crown itself seems embarrassed by all the fuss. The coronation ceremony has been curtailed, and will last a little over an hour, we’re promised, as opposed to the three hours allotted for Queen Elizabeth II.

The economy: For Canada, the absurdity of the coronation is basic: we are not a British colony, but we have a British king. For the British, the national pride supposed to underlie a coronation has been exposed and harried: UK GDP cut by 4%, a lost £100bn a year in output, the pound losing a fifth of its value, all since Brexit. It’s hard to celebrate when inflation is at 10.1% and the Bank of England has to raise interest rates again, especially when it costs £100bn.

The vanity of the British people: As of April, only 34% of Britons still believe that Brexit was the correct decision. And underlying the recognition of their error is a dawning realization of the failure at its root: the British people – not the press, not the politicians – failed to understand their place in the world. Nostalgia and vanity, and ultimately self-deceit, led them into a calamity which seems, at the moment, impossible to recover from.

A preposterous king: This week, on his fancy carriage ride, Charles will be surrounded by many preposterous objects. He’ll be holding the world’s largest diamond on the end of a stick. He’ll be wearing a hat with a ruby that Henry V wore into battle. He’ll be sitting on a chair over the Stone of Destiny, a stone English kings stole from the Scots almost a millennium ago. The real absurdity will be deeper, for both Canada and Britain. Charles is a symptom of twin identity crises: the man represents us, but it’s hard to think of anyone less representative. I mean, it’s all fun and games, but his face is going to be printed on my money.

[From The Guardian]

I love this line: “the British people – not the press, not the politicians – failed to understand their place in the world. Nostalgia and vanity, and ultimately self-deceit, led them into a calamity which seems, at the moment, impossible to recover from.” I keep thinking about just that, while it’s easy and convenient to blame the reactionary right-wing British press machinery for causing all of this, the fact is that the British public has gotten it wrong. It’s the icky little truth which everyone tries to ignore. Hannah Rose Woods wrote a guest column for the New York Times which included this too:

Britain in 2023 is a country on the edge of Europe that is grappling with its imperial past and confronting an uncertain future. Since the Brexit campaign in 2016, invoking the “greatness” of Britain’s history — by name-dropping the Battle of Agincourt or Winston Churchill, for example — has become rote for politicians on the right who want to articulate a vision of Britain’s future outside of Europe. And, perhaps precisely because Britain’s future outside of Europe seems to rest so much on its past, there is an increasingly hard and humorless edge to conversations about British history: a patriotism that will admit no criticism. Attempts to re-examine Britain’s imperial history have been dismissed as “trying to do Britain down,” promoting “a woke agenda” or “cringing embarrassment about our history.”

But this slimmed-down coronation is still set to cost the British taxpayer millions — though the exact figure will not be made public until after the event, it is reported to be around $125 million. For many, that the coronation is happening at all is a sign of a country in denial and clinging to past grandeur. For others, any concession to the present is too much to bear.

[From The NY Times]

It’s like a international therapy session, really. About a populace’s collective denial about what is really happening to them and what all of this actually looks like to the rest of the world. Woods is absolutely right about the way British people speak and think about their country’s history too, which is also something America is grappling with. Although, to America’s credit, we’re having a lively national debate about our history and Black history. Is the UK having a similar national conversation?

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  1. Brassy Rebel says:

    British vainglory will be their downfall.

    • Lauren says:

      Is it British, or is is English. It seems to me the Scots have their eyes open.

      • ELX says:

        The unfortunate reality is that the U.K. as a whole is swiftly becoming a third-world country. The economic distress is only going to worsen at this point—there will probably be a significant ‘brain-drain’ as in the 1960s and others becoming undocumented migrants into continental Europe. Agincourt happened in 1415 and England could not hold the French lands they conquered. WWII was nearly 100 years ago, and the outcome was that Britain had to relinquish its empire. They haven’t learned the right lessons.

      • Ceej says:

        It’s just not English. Wales voted for brexit but I don’t think the public should be blamed for not knowing their place. Politicians actively missold Brexit to promote their own careers.

        And only 52% voted FOR. 48% of votes did not want Brexit. With a lowly 42% turnout – so actually only 22% of the voting public actually said they wanted Brexit. But David Cameron was shortsighted and an idiot. Quebec held a referendum for independence repeatedly and knew you needed a strong majority to proceed – not some nonsense that as soon as it passed 50% that would count.

        So not all British public. A quarter thought the Empire would smarm about and making demands and the world would bow down again (and I’ll buy they’re largely English. And not in London). A bunch of smaller identities – Cornish, Welsh – believed they’d get more control and found out too late that their cities were being boosted by millions in EU funding that stopped.

        Brexit still upsets me. Politicians actively ruined their country in order to try and boost their interests in being Prime Minister, and I hope karma comes for them all. Boris Johnson was first.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      I think you will find that its the English who are caught up in the delusion of past glories (thou not all are) – I think part of the issue is that England doesn’t have its own national identity beyond being British. Their national identity is tied to the Monarchy and its colonial past – they cling to it as they have nothing else, or think they don’t. The Scots, Welsh and N. Irish all have distinct national identities that separates them from the British one.

      It also doesn’t help that a lot of these elite private school teach this imperial/colonial attitude/narrative – it’s why the rest of the UK calls these people ‘little Englanders’. They think the British Empire still exists.

      • Christine says:

        So well said, Digital Unicorn. You really nailed it, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland have very distinct national identities. England has centuries of doing everything they could to remove these identities, the attempted obliteration of Gaelic and Welsh being an easy example, and that’s just what they have done to the U.K.

    • Elon's Sink says:

      When I lived in the UK a few years ago, one of my housemates (he’s white) told me that we (black and brown people from former colonies) should be happy that the British ruled our countries because they civilised us with education, infrastructure, judicial systems, etc. I responded that Britain should be happy that they became wealthy because they enslaved black and brown bodies, and stole gems and other natural resources from indigenous lands.

      He spent the rest of the evening sulking in his room.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Wow, he actually said that? I knew that’s how the English thought (went to grad school in England in the early 90s), but figured by now there would have been at least some enlightenment. But no, it seems. Must’ve been a tense few days in the house after that!

      • Nlopez says:

        Bravo Elon’s Sink 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

      • bisynaptic says:

        LOL

  2. Andy Dufresne says:

    As a Canadian, I still cannot wrap my head around this. The king is a billionaire and yet we have to pay to celebrate a coronation no one really cares about.

    • LadyMTL says:

      Right?? I live in Quebec and I know exactly one person who is looking forward to watching the coronation: my aunt, who’s in her 70’s and has always been a bit of a monarchist. One person, that’s it.

      • Elizabeth Phillips says:

        I used to be a bit of a monarchist, but I have no intention of watching this mess.

      • Coldbloodedjellydonut says:

        Canadian here, too. I was also a bit of a monarchist at one time, QEII reminded me of my grandma and I have a bit of a coin fetish. Ever since Meghan joined the family and they let the press abuse her, the scales are off my eyes.

        Speaking of my coin fetish, I’ll be buying the King Charles coronation medallion for historical purposes, but I will NOT buy the one with Camilla’s horrible visage. I was irrationally angry spotting that sucker.

      • YVR says:

        Canadian/English dual citizen here. I was brought up with the monarchy, so I loved (almost) everything about it, especially when Diana came on the scene.

        But since the appalling treatment of Diana and Harry/Meghan, I’m done with them. I certainly don’t want Chuck’s image on my money.

      • As I walked my dog this a.m. not one person watched it or had any interest in it. I personally find it offensive with world wars and poverty.

    • EasternViolet says:

      Is having his ugly mug on our currency a done deal? I didn’t think it was.

      Use Buffy Saint Marie, the real queen.

      • Coldbloodedjellydonut says:

        Easterviolet – I’m not sure what’s up with Charles on our coins, they’re still releasing with QEII but they have the date of her reign noted. Maybe after the coronation. I’m not jazzed about the prospect but as per my previous comment I love coins and I’ll buy the first-of (poor person version, some of those coins are $$$) when they come out, just to have it for my collection. I like coins for their history and my fave is when they’re super pretty, because I’m a raven. Maybe one day my son will have a nice inheritance as I hope their value increases.

      • TheFarmer'sWife says:

        We were not obligated to put chuckle on our money until an official portrait of the biggest grifter of all time was released. Unfortunately, chuckle released a portrait of himself. We are not obligated to put his side chick on our money. Canadian currency has two different sides, thankfully. There has been a move in the past several years to put notable Canadians on our money, which is as it should be. Most people use plastic these days, but it seems appropriate for chuckle’s to appear on our “loonies” and “twoonies.”

      • Jaded says:

        Canada isn’t required to put Chuck’s ugly face on our money. In fact the federal government appears to be avoiding the conversation altogether. Because we use polymer banknotes, which last for a very long time, if and when the mint is given the green light, it may just be that his effigy will go on a coin. I can think of no better person to go on our $20 bills than Gordon Lightfoot.

      • IMary Pester says:

        Well I’m a Brit (sorry) and I don’t want his ugly mug on our money either. The British people were sold a bag of goods over brexit. The lies and false promises that the media ALL printed led to a lot of gullible people swallowing every word spoken by first, Cameron and the the liar in cheif Johnson, his words “oven ready deal” were parroted over and over again when in fact the only thing oven ready was the turkey he bought for Christmas

      • JaneBee says:

        Think your Aussie Commonwealth cousins have stated that their currency will NOT be updated to feature KFC. Don’t know about the Kiwis. You got this, Canada! Just say no!

      • Typical Virgo says:

        @Mary Pester- I hope you’re feeling better! Also, can you clear this up for me? I’m very confused about TV in the UK. So it USED to be that all television broadcasting was done by the BBC, correct? Did they have multiple channels, or just one? And safe to assume that their aristo “values” would be reflected in their programming? So did the BBC basically have a monopoly? Are British citizens content with the BBC running the vast majority of TV programs?
        And I know that now there’s ITV and I think Sky? But are those 2 the only other broadcasters? And if so, do you know why no one else has tried to give BBC a run for their money? Doesnt all the costume drama get tedious?
        Here in the US we literally have hundreds of channels run by dozens of broadcasters. In the UK, do you not have access to them? Would you have to find them on the internet, if you wanted to watch American channels?

    • SquiddusMaximus says:

      As an American, I am particularly sensitive to any figure(s) that grow a cult of personality, and I definitely see similarities between the rabid monarchists and the Trump workshippers. Ultimately, both are 100% focused on their survival of their party — not public service.

      I understand the potential benefits to a modern monarchy IF it were a proud institution that transcends fickle politics. But you’d have to be insane to think THIS manifestation of the monarchy is doing any of that. They claim a right to the crown and all its holdings with none of the responsibility: acknowledging its historical legacy, correcting wrongs, and dedicating itself to the people it exists to serve.

  3. More truth tellers using their platforms to get it out there. Maybe there is some hope that the monarchy will be abolished sooner rather than later.

    • Josephine says:

      It was really clear and unapologetic, I loved it. Too many articles have been too soft on the institution out of some sort of misplaced respect and I really like that nothing was held back here.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        I agree!! It’s about time that secrets so closely held by the BaRF and the Torries, to see the light of day for everyone to see!! They have held too much power for too long and it’s time that everyone sees the damage that they have caused and will continue to cause everyone BUT themselves!! How brilliant of the Guardian in ripping the blinders off as those who are being held hostage by these unscrupulous politicians are reading and educating themselves as to how they have been scammed. May they take a page or two from the French and all come together to force the change in Parliament, as well as KFC and his preposterous “ordained by God” nonsense. It’s time for the Monarchy to come into the 21st century and become a republic as they pack up their grifting, greedy arses into history and not the current status quo.

        Thank you Kaiser and all of the fabulous crew at CB in highlighting and sharing these impactful and important stories to highlight the plight that our British, and Canadian CB’ers are facing each and every day. I stand in solidarity with every one of you and I hope that your lives are finally made whole as they should be.

      • NotTheOne says:

        Yes the media has played a big role. And that role/motivation was discussed and brought to the surface. But the people still choose what they choose. That’s a point that needs to be talked about more. We need to talk about it more and hold more people accountable.

  4. aquarius64 says:

    I just watched CNN about a segment on the Con-a-Nation and numbers were crunched. 63% of Americans have a negative opinion of the BRF as opposed to 23% in 1991. Americans have been found they don’t care (I forgot that number) but they are tired of the drama. If I were the networks covering the Chubbly I would worry if they will take a ratings hit and lose advertising revenue.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      The only reason to watch the Con-A-Nation is the same reason to watch a Royal wedding: to see what everyone is wearing. At a Royal wedding, women are dripping in haute couture. At this Con-A-Nation women will be wearing second rate costumes for third rate cosplay.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      aquarius64, I suspect Princess Di had much to do with only 21% of Americans having a negative opinion of the BRF in 1991. I think that 63% being negative today is probably all of the drama and lies being spewed by the bm. They shouldn’t have attacked an American and a black American at that. It rings too close to the US MAGAs to ignore.

      • The Recluse says:

        I had stopped following the royal family after Diana. I was aware of things here and there, like most people are, but what happened with Harry and Meghan has insured that I am done with the BRF.

  5. SarahCS says:

    I don’t disagree with the lady writing in the NYT but that Guardian article is a thing of beauty. I’ve bookmarked the full piece to enjoy later.

    We need to face our true place in the world in 2023 and how we got here. That’s not going to be easy and coming from the heady heights of empire, the sun never sets, etc. in such a (relatively) short period of time, plus all those who are actively fighting against this growing self-awareness, is tough.

  6. Mia4s says:

    “ but his face is going to be printed on my money.”

    ….well….we shall see. So far the announcement and info on this in Canada has been wishy washy as hell (“in a few years”). Honestly? Go ahead. Do it. People will hate it. It will only hasten Canada doing away with any ties to the monarchy, which cannot come soon enough!!

    • Elaine says:

      There’s no incentive to do it for the federal government, especially given how unpopular the royals are. Maybe if he schleps his way over here and they manage to not laugh at Inuit culture we can consider it.

    • EasternViolet says:

      This is one issue Trudeau is purposely not touching with a barge pole. I don’t blame him. While he had a history and warm familiarity with QE2, I think he’s read the Canadian room and doesn’t want to be the politician behind this move. Smart.

    • tamsin says:

      There should be no more monarchs on Canadian money- ONLY Canadians from now on. Changing the constitution would be a nightmare, but having the Crown fade into irrelevance is very Canadian and a good plan B. No more royal tours. I would be in favour of getting rid of 10 Lt. Governors as well. Technically a Governor General needs to be retained. As long as the British monarch is our head of state, it’s appropriate for the prime minister to attend the coronation but the consitutional monarchy for Canada makes no sense for anyone under 40 years of age.

      • sunny says:

        yes to all of this though we absolutely do need a GG given the fact that more than one problematic parliamentary prorogation has happened in recent memory but I hope the crown continues to be diminished in other ways across Canada.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        tamsin & sunny, could those 10 Lt. Governors become elected rather than appointed? I think the Monarch is supposed to appoint them, but if you just chose election over appointment what could the Monarch do?

      • happy_fat_mama says:

        Yes, let’s switch to electing the LG’s and the GG. Great idea. Also, maybe change their job description. could we get them at the table on reconciliation, since so many First Nations treaties are with the Crown. Is there a way to benefit indigenous people and reduce the role of the Crown in Canada?

  7. Emma says:

    As a British person, I would definitely agree with this. I would say it is more of a generational issue as well. The younger generations are generally more open to the history and less interested in the monarchy (I’m 37 and still don’t really know what their purpose is today apart from charity events and using the tax payers money tbh). The conversation is happening with a lot of people under the age of 40, but the lack of willing from the older generation is just creating a divide. One common theme amongst people in general is that nobody likes to be wrong, so people dig their heels in and keep the blinkers on rather than admit that they might be wrong

  8. fishface says:

    As a British citizen born and raised in the ‘colonies’ and currently living in Australia, I stand by my prediction many years ago about Brexit: The British have negotiated themselves into irrelevance.

    • JM says:

      Absolutely. They took away their own power and influence thanks to their inflated sense of self. Now they are just a tiny island no one cares about. I think it’s similar to the boomers screaming in the states too. They know they are losing majority control so they are doing everything they can to legislate their beliefs and force their will on everyone else, while trying to improve things only for themselves, at the cost of all future generations. Because they don’t care about anyone but themselves. My mom is a great example…I’m queer and all three of her children had babies with latino spouses yet she gleefully worships trump despite being told it actively makes the country more dangerous for everyone she claims to love. She’d cut off her nose to spite her own face if the alt right told her to.

      • Deering24 says:

        JM–it’s the right-wing boomers that are doing this. They were the young people supporting Nixon back in the day–and they haven’t changed.

    • Jais says:

      The significance of brexit cannot be overstated. As an American watching at the time, my reaction was “what are they thinking!?”

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Jais – “what are they thinking!?” is still my reaction to BREXIT.

  9. mia girl says:

    “Nostalgia and vanity, and ultimately self-deceit, led them into a calamity”

    This hit hard for this US citizen because it also describes what’s been happening in the U.S. with conservatives and especially MAGAs. Nostalgia is a helluv a drug and they want to take us back to a time pre multiculturalism, pre equal rights, pre BLM, pre FAFO for the sake of being high on the nostalgia of their perceived control of our country and ability to and say and do what they want without ramifications.

    • equality says:

      I thought about Trump’s regime reading it too.

    • SAS says:

      I like to think of this backswing (US, UK, Europe, Brazil, Australia etc etc) into nostalgia/ right-wing conservatism/ fascism whatever you want to call it, as an extinction burst.

      The current demographic in power knows they’re not going to be holding a majority of those seats in 10 years, so they’re pushing through the most extreme policies they can to try and cling to relevance before they expire.

      For how shit the world is right now, I have a lot of hope that we’re going to see huge changes and reforms by the 30s. Very curious to see the state of the Royals during that period too!

      • Hamalka says:

        I’ve been thinking the same thing for a while. Couldn’t come up with a name for it though. I love “extinction burst”. Perfect.

      • The Recluse says:

        Patton Oswalt discussed this in most recent comedy special. It’s the final burst of toxic defiance from a dying generation.

    • Ciotog says:

      They’re nostalgic for something that never really existed.

      • YVR says:

        Spot on. Wistfully looking back is inevitably viewed through rose-coloured glasses obscuring reality.

    • Jais says:

      I think about the Supreme Court doing their own thing for the next how many years. The court Trump helped create. I think about the Electoral College and minority leaders.
      @sas but I hope your optimism overrules my morning cynicism.

    • Sunday says:

      You’re exactly right, and it’s because Trump and Brexit were the same crime – Cambridge Analytica flooded both sides of the Atlantic with the same far right propaganda microtargeting the same demographics in the US and the UK. The British example is more stark because Brexit is such an obvious, cut-and-dry turning point for the current state of Britain, but similar continuing fallout is happening in the US, despite Biden being elected – everything from the state of the supreme court and the rollback of Roe to the rise of school’s banning books and rampant transphobia can be traced back to that f*cking election. It’s all still happening for both the US and the UK, minus the £150+ million hat party for the US, at least.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      mia girl, now that the rightwing in the US is looking at no fault divorce to replace it to what it once was, I am convinced that they are going to try to go back to pre-WWII. That is the time that women entered the workplace in numbers, because the men went to war.

      The statistics I’ve seen if they return to the past divorce is that women will be in great danger, because of domestic abuse and spousal murders. Women will be the property of their husband, father, or other male relative. This is where they are headed.

  10. Watson says:

    Fellow Canadian here: that man and that royal family does not represent me in the slightest. They are clinging so hard to the past that they pissed all over what could have been a bright future with Meg and Harry. They continue to shovel themselves into deeper PR holes by supporting pedo Andy, allowing Will and Kate to be work shy,and promoting Camilla’s family in the press and coronation. They refuse to truly acknowledge any wrong doing to First Nations and Indigenous people in my country. Literally they are a waste of space.

    • Well Wisher says:

      You are aware that you do not have to swear allegiance to the king. A simple civics class will inform you that via an election you get to choose your MP, MPP.
      They are your representatives of which, form the government.
      The Lieutenant-Governer is selected by the Probinvial Government to represent the Crown.
      Similarly the Governor General will represent the Federal Government.

      So King Charles 111 do not represent you.

  11. EmpressCakey says:

    The bottom photo says it all – “white people run this place, and we’ve done our best to make sure we always will.” Meghan would have been such an asset here. Having her in the photos would have at least made it seem possible that the monarchy is modernizing and diversifying. They were such idiots to toss her to the wolves. She was their best hope of staying relevant.

  12. Amy Bee says:

    “Is the UK having a similar national conversation?” The answer is no.

  13. Hoops says:

    “…because God says so.” made me CACKLE! What an amazing description of Sat. LMAO

    • Lady Digby says:

      This Brit is embarrassed and frankly concerned about the continued propaganda churned out by BM and politicians about the value of monarchy in 2023. I welcome the debate and scrutiny that The Guardian articles examination of their finances and tax and law exemptions brought. Quite frankly fed up with being told they cost 1.50 a year per UK citizen, bring in tourists and selflessly do charity work so we owe them this servile celebration of birthright supremacy on Saturday complete with feudal oath.

  14. Rackel says:

    The English didn’t realize how easy it would be to cut them out. Take Cornwall. They took tons of aid money from the e.u. yet they thought brexit was a good idea to preserve the fishing industry. Turns out no one is loyal to their fish. They need the e.u markets.

    I disagree that it’s totally the people fault. While it’s 70% their fault that 30% the press played is STRONG. -my numbers-

    The press lied and fudged numbers. If the british had the right numbers would they have still went through with brexit. They closed most of their factories because they decided to rely on the e.u. why would they let boris talk them into this

    And brexit still isn’t 100% down. The torys are dragging bits.

  15. ClaireB says:

    Living in Florida, I definitely don’t feel like we’re having a “lively national debate” about American history, but if it feels that way in other places, then I guess I can be a bit hopeful.

    • Christine says:

      I’m in California, so about as far from Florida as it gets, but I am so hopeful about the current generation. My son’s class just read Stamped, and he was so excited to tell me exactly how wrong the history “my generation” was taught was, I read it too. There are such good conversations happening in schools right now, if the schools are ready to recognize that clinging to a false history is nothing but a fairy tale.

  16. crazyoldlady says:

    It’s truly an embarrassment – the UK must streamline and modernize the monarchy straight into the dustbins of history.

  17. honeychild says:

    The number of eyes watching the hat show, in person or on a screen, will be tragically low. The monarchy should become an after thought after this. The British media know this and so that’s why they will continue using Meghan and Harry for click bait. William and Kate are aging like spoiled milk, so by the time he becomes King, He and Kate will have long lost their youthful sheen magazine covers fancy. It’s all on their kids, and by the time they take the throne and become senior royals, I just feel like society will have moved on. They’ll really be no different from the other billionaire socialite kids and nepo babies. They’ll just have a historical title that means nothing.

    • Rackel says:

      It could’ve been a nice distraction but it cost too much and Camilla was suppose to be “princess consort”.

  18. AnneL says:

    I agree that particular line is a thing of beauty and cuts to the core of it. But the last line about Chuck’s face being on her money made me chuckle. Yeah, that’s going to be weird.

  19. Peanut Butter says:

    I wonder how many Brits are as sick as I am of hearing about the coronation of this pair of overentitled mediocrities 🙄

    • Chrissy says:

      I find it interesting that the Conanation is about a head of state being anointed by God and yet, the anointees are the most famous adulterers in modern times. Hope that shit show is worth the $125million to Britons while people are starving, homeless and freezing in the streets. Shame!!!

      • Lux says:

        But haven’t you heard? Big Willy is going to solve homelessness! He‘s pouring money into a documentary about how’s he’s going to do it, all without giving a single pence to the homeless in the entire process. How DOES he do it? A modern miracle, indeed!

  20. Becks1 says:

    I just feel like Charles really overplayed his hand with this one. He should have done a scaled down coronation ceremony, taken this opportunity to show that he really does understand the monarchy needs to change and “modernize” like they’ve been talking about for years. no one actually cares if Andrew or William lives in Royal Lodge, that doesn’t affect the average person. That’s not scaling back. But saying you aren’t going to have a 250 million pound ceremony and instead are going to do something smaller, with fewer processions and parades, and you dont expect people to dance in the street for you – thats more in line with actually scaling back.

    It turns out that all Charles’ PR about “modernizing” seemed to mean nothing and there’s obviously going to be pushback about that.

    • QuiteContrary says:

      Charles is completely incapable of self-reflection. He sees everything through the prism of his own warped life.

      He waited decades for his mother to die, so he thinks he deserves an extravagant coronation. He wanted to install his side chick as queen — despite the enduring popularity of his first wife — so he is doing it against all sound judgment. His biracial daughter-in-law might pull focus from him on his big shiny day, so he made it impossible for her to be there.

      For Charles, it’s always about Charles. He’s the least modern person in the world because he has the temperament of a grasping toddler (apologies to toddlers everywhere).

      • Persephone says:

        💯💯 All this ^^^^

      • Lara (The Other) says:

        I think even a more “traditional” clowning would be cheaper. The cost for the security for so many foreign dignitiarys must be enormus. The aristos traditionally invited need less security, have their own bling and robes and put on the better show.
        Add a shorter procession and you get a nice historical theater with a fraction of the costs. And what are the RF if not an expensive historical theater?

      • Deering24 says:

        QuiteContrary–yup. No matter how old Charles gets, he’ll always be stuck at the age of his most damaging trauma–believing being king no matter what will make up for a loveless childhood.

  21. Well Wisher says:

    I cannot wait to get a hold of the NY article, the people were conditioned to embrace nostalgia…
    They were ill served by some of the media as similar to that at Fox News and some of the media in Australia.
    We are starting to see the effects here. The fascists are in on the long game, whereas the population is being conditioned to instant gratification.
    Instead of using history as tool to examine our impulses as a nation, to self- reflect.
    It is being rewritten as a glorious, without pain.
    But I beg to differ, if 3% of the population of the North had voted remain, there would not have been Brexit.
    They wanted the holiday crowds to return, what they got instead was faeces on their beaches.
    Interesting…..

  22. QuiteContrary says:

    This passage from Marche is a thing of beauty: “In a time of post-post-colonialism, of anti-racist iconoclasm, a time in which the very notion of gender as a legitimate distinction is contested, and Christianity has been reduced to a scandal management system with costumes, a 74-year-old British gentleman will ride a fancy carriage to an old church where a few other elderly British gentlemen in gilded dresses will declare him emperor, patriarch and head of state because God says so.”

    • Peachy says:

      The entire article is just 🔥. Not just for the accuracy, but the articulateness.

  23. Kingston says:

    So……..H&M became a couple in 2016, right smack in the middle of all the brexit propaganda by rightwingers and white supremacists. And so they immediately latched onto M and used her as their convenient bogeyman for the preoccupation of the hoi polloi.

    “Is britain ready for [a princess like Meghan]” is what senior royals and others in the monarchy were saying, according to H.

    “What colour will their offspring be; and what would that look like and what will it mean for the future of the monarchy,” is what we know someone very close to H said; so close and so important to the continuation of the monarchy that to reveal who that person is, would be too damaging to them……….just know that it wasnt betty, nor her cousband; and we also recently heard that it wasnt charles either.

    [Hint….hint]

    And so the white supremacists and other rightwingers and hate-merchants whipped up the empty barrels amongst them into a red mist (as H would say) and while the hoi polloi was thus preoccupied, the Machiavellians in govt and the monarchy and the oligarchs and wannabes, did their worst to that benighted little island.

    So H&M took themselves and their son outta there and to America where theyve lived for over 3 years now.

    But little england is still in need of a bogeyman to ‘look-over-there-not-over-here’ their way out of the aftermath of their brexit mess. As we’ve seen, they use anyone and everyone with even a modicum of a public profile, the help continue the demonization of this one young woman who dared to to say “No” to their desire to use her as both their token and bogeyman at the same time.

  24. HeyKay says:

    Personal wealth hoarding while spending hundreds of millions of tax payers money on a party to celebrate an adulterer, liar, con artist, and his side piece along with the extended family of sex trafficker (Andrew) and assorted moochers by the dozens is the “problem” the RF has brought on themselves.

    Fixed that.

  25. joespider says:

    Wow, I am amazed and impressed at how much so many non-Brits know about the country.

  26. Goldenkatz says:

    I thought this piece was entirely too kind to Charles. No mention of his treatment of Diana. No mention of jealousy of Meghan’s success and how that led to a briefing war against her. Even the notion of British delusions of grandeur doesn’t quite capture why Brexit happened, which was on the back of years of austerity and public service cuts. The piece makes him seem like a well meaning nerd who’s a surprisingly good representative of the UK. Blech.

  27. Typical virgo says:

    I have been saying for a long time that, in regards to Charles and especially in regards to Will, once people realize that they’ll be looking at THOSE two ugly mugs every time they use cash, the notion of them as kings will seem a lot less abstract and a lot more distasteful.
    Thank God we’re moving closer and closer to a cash-free society……

  28. AC says:

    Reading the comments above, that’s interesting news that 63% of Americans have an unfavorable view of the BRF. That’s definitely a big difference compared to previous years as majority of Americans had a favorable view of the Queen and loved Princess Diana. I can understand though, the attacks the BP and BRF has with Meghan Markle (an American citizen) made many Americans realize how condescending they can be not just to Meghan , but it also shows a bit of anti-Americanism. I don’t think WK expected boos during the Boston Celtics game including the head coach and players not being interested in them at all. There’s a silent majority here in the US that did not like how they’ve been treating Meghan. And They’ve literally shoved their hate down our throats, And it’s turned many Americans who used to have a positive view to be sour with the BRF and BP.
    I do agree in the US we still have a lot of work To do and better improve . But at least there’s people in the US calling these issues out and loudly voicing them. If the US media did what the BM has been doing, there would have been so many Americans who would call them out on it. I read an article written by a Black Briton, if one calls out racism in the UK, the country just deflects saying the US has it worse. We know discrimination and racism is still bad in the US, but across the pond they don’t even want to acknowledge it.

  29. Anna says:

    Thank you Kaiser for posting about this. I’ve been sending this article to everybody since it as published a few days ago! It’s a chirurgical precision autopsy marvel of work that exposes not only Charles but the people who self sabotage their own lives supporting him and his ancient ideas.

  30. Sasha says:

    Note to all who clearly haven’t gotten the message: Black History is Our History.
    The US, the UK, Spain, France, Italy, Portugal and other European nations made a great deal of their wealth through enslaving African people and promoting the international slave trade.
    When are you going to realize that ‘Black history’ is not a separate entity?

    It has had to be segregated as such because white peoples refuse to acknowledge the myriad contributions made by the African diaspora!!
    Acknowledge and be an ally. Peace and 💚