Pretty much every newspaper and tabloid used the coronation to write about the falling out between Prince William and Prince Harry. They arrived separately, with Harry walking into Westminster Abbey alongside his York cousins and their husbands (Edo Mapelli Mozzi even briefly put his arm around Harry as they walked in, a supportive gesture which did not go unnoticed) while William arrived (late) with Kate, Charlotte and Louis. The New York Times, People Magazine, the Daily Mail, everyone had their own spin on “the brothers did not interact.” The differences in the reporting was whether that refusal to acknowledge one another was purely driven by William’s incandescent rage, or whether royal reporters noted that Harry didn’t even seem interested in acknowledging William whatsoever.
So, in lieu of some breaking-news about what was really going on behind-the-scenes (I think we can safely assume that the brothers ignored each other publicly and privately), let’s focus on the other part of this – why were William and Kate so late to the coronation? They were supposed to be at the Abbey before Charles’s coach arrived. All of that made it into the Times as well:
Where were the Waleses? In the down-to-the-minute choreography of Saturday’s coronation, William and Catherine, the Prince and Princess of Wales, had been expected to arrive outside Westminster Abbey at roughly 10:45 a.m. They would be among the last guests to enter the church before the stars of the show, King Charles III and Queen Camilla.
Instead, Charles and Camilla pulled up to the abbey in the Diamond Jubilee State Coach and then, rather awkwardly, did not alight. Instead, the royal couple stayed put for about five minutes, as cameras caught an aide conferring with a perplexed-looking Charles about the apparent delay.
Were William and Kate running late? Or was it that the king’s coach had arrived early? None of the hundreds of journalists loitering by the broadcast booths outside Buckingham Palace seemed to know for sure. But for a while, it seemed the Waleses were AWOL.
“We frankly expected to see them before this moment,” Savannah Guthrie of NBC told her “Today” show viewers, although William and Catherine were always scheduled to be among the latest arrivals. “So we will see how all this unfolds.”
Eventually, a car zipped up and deposited William and Catherine and their children — George, Charlotte and Louis — at the abbey. There was no immediate comment from the relevant parties, and so the reporters were left to speculate. Some TV commentators said they recognized in William and Catherine the harried faces of parents who had just been corralling a brood. Others raised the prospect of a traffic jam, although the surrounding streets had been cleared of cars.
Hours later, it remained unclear if the Waleses had technically been delayed at all. But it wouldn’t be a royal occasion without some gossip.
As everyone noted on Saturday, William and Kate had the look of two people who had fought in the car ride. And I do believe that they were late rather than “Charles was early.” His arrival had been timed and planned out to the very second. By all accounts, he arrived exactly when he was supposed to, and then his heir made him wait. My guess is that it’s getting harder and harder for William and Kate to “arrive together” for events when they clearly don’t live together.
CB posted this – Charles waiting for William and Kate, and he looked like he was mad as hell.
Charles looks like he's pissed off? I know he's probably practicing his speech but still pic.twitter.com/oZx06uotVD
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They radiated misery at this event. I have no idea why they were late. There is so much dysfunction with these two and their entire team that it could literally be anything.
They indeed looked miserable. Considering how Keen preens and guffaws at funerals and memorials she should have been in fine form for a coronation. Why so serious?
I wouldn’t be shocked if this was a power move on her part, ensuring she had all eyes on her for her entrance. It’s ballsy to make the king wait outside in a carriage for you, but she is literally shameless.
i guess she flubbed that with all the cameras being directed away, and then she had to walk in the rain since he coach was at the entrance. if planned, it played out stupidly
They looked way happier at granny’s funeral
Why yes they did.
@kaiser that’s exactly what I thought
@hamsterjam jep, they couldn’t wait to get the multi-million dollar duchy
And the video with charly is just hilarious!! 😂😂😂😂😂
@HamsterJam….lol!
As said before: someone pointed out that it looked like they had a fight and I can certainly believe that. Although I think that it was rather before they left the house instead of in the car/carriage. However, i also would believe that they would be late on purpose. Just to annoy Charles
I wonder whether Rose’s being in the cathedral was more worrisome to them both, particularly Kate, than we’ve given credit. I was never convinced that William and Rose were a thing at the start, but have come round to it more lately – so imagine an ex/current fling, sitting behind you and watching your every move. Perhaps a reason for strong words before getting to the venue?
There is also footage that looks like they were arguing in the carriage ride back to BP – he’s talking and she’s glaring at him.
It’s a very important day so I doubt they were late on purpose. Trying to get everyone ready and out in time is stressful and sh*t happens. Most of us have been late to events before.
The Guardian reported a lip reader:
A lip reader for Sky News said that Charles complained: “We can never be on time. Yes I’m … This is a negative. There’s always something … This is boring,” Charles said during the tense buildup to his coronation.
Dr Guli Francis-Dehqani, the bishop of Chelmsford, said on Saturday outside Saint Margaret’s church next to the abbey that there were a couple of hiccups.
“There were one or two things that didn’t go strictly to plan,” she said. “I’m not going to embarrass anyone in particular.”
William and Kate were due to arrive at 10.45am, while Charles and Camilla’s arrival had been set for 10.53am in the carefully organised schedule, planned months in advance.
So interesting!
Interestingly, “We can never be on time … There’s always something … This is boring” could very easily have been, “Will and Kate are never on time … There’s always something … This is bollocks.”
Pretty sure even an “expert” lip reader might get those phrases confused.
@PunkPrincess “This is bollocks” seems much more likely than “this is boring.” Great catch!
I’m positive in there somewhere he said “I worked bloody hard” … he was MAD.
There’ve been two other versions of what he said from professional lip readers.
Under an article someone commented they were a pro lip reader and what they’d been able to catch didn’t fit either version, but it was hard to tell what he said, because the video was sideways.
I think it’s much more likely he was saying William or wills and Kate or they can never be on time.
And I don’t think boring is the adjective he would first think of! It was outrageous.
The lip movements of “This is all we need” actually looks like “this is boring”
I read lips (not exclusively as I can hear) – it looked to me like he was saying, ‘(something) that boy does this ALL the time, every f*cking time – (something-something-something) – this is boring.”
I have a theory which could be completely nuts which is that they were fighting (not unusual), but then they had to do video takes for their new Instagram social media manager of them all leaving the house, getting into the car etc and that led to the additional delay
Yes!!! I saw their fan cam footage of leaving for the event they swiftly posted to IG after the coronation ended. I suspect the filming ran late and started the chain reaction of getting behind schedule. Can you imagine if Harry & Meghan were late bc they were filming for social media? It would be all that’s talked about today. But yet, because it’s Will and Kate there’s nothing to tell.
@Mary that’s exactly what that was, they were too busy copykeeing H and M trying to shoot a mini documentary. It’s even on their social media pgs, clips of it, now the question of course is whether or not the media will take them to task like they did H and M. Then again we all know the answer to that.
100% this.They were late because they were making they little insta fan cam special.Then argued and he knew Chuck will be not happy and he will pay for it. They embarrassed him in front of the world on the biggest day of his life.
William was with his Camilla the night before, and arrived late to Kate’s/Adelaide, but it didn’t matter because Kate was getting her hair done still and her I Can’t Believe It’s Not Tiara wasn’t fully bedazzled yet. So arguments ensued and they made the kids sit between them in the car.
I might be the only one here with this opinion but I find Kate’s headpiece ridiculous. It’s just over the top and too much. I prefer Charlotte’s who had a single band. I also think the headpiece would have looked better had she worn it with her hair loose.
I’m with you. Something smaller would have looked pretty and more appropriate. This headpiece underscores that Buttons was big mad that she couldn’t wear one of the royal tiaras.
Looks ridiculous, but matched her shiny polyester robe.
Hyacinth Bucket would have loved Kate’s Not a Tiara!
oh no, I’m with you Chloe. I thought it was ridiculous. i said this yesterday but i also just found it embarrassing for her. Like….if you can’t wear a tiara, don’t wear a fake tiara on your head. It just looks desperate.
I totally agree. It’s extremely tacky. When none of the other women are in tiaras, you can’t wear a headpiece like this without it screaming, “LOOK AT MEEEEE!”
The headpiece gives off “I really wanted to wear a tiara so I am wearing this instead” vibes.
“All Hail Caesar!” LMAO
I agree that the “tiara” looked tacky because the idea is tacky (fake tiara) and it was way too big. I also think it was pretty sad, like some teenager told not to wear her skirt so short, and goes out in an extra mini. She is the Princess of Wales. She should have worn some feather concoction which would have been totally appropriate, but Kate is an absolute philistine about such matters it seems. Her reactions are immature.
This was not a good look for Kate. She didn’t look good and the headpiece was awful. The bun didn’t wvwn work with it.
Her makeup couldn’t hide the dark circles and wrinkles. The cape was crap with all the wrinkles. She certainly couldn’t shine at the event.
Thank you, I needed a good laugh on this Monday morning. “I can’t believe it’s not Tiara” indeed! I can’t believe they weren’t allowed to wear a real one. For cripe’s sake, Camilla was going to have the best “headpiece”—why should she be petty about what everyone else was wearing???
I’m trying to come up with a nickname for this faux tiara thing. Right now I think Tiara lite might work.
It’s her own personal tinfoil tiara!
The crown looks more impressive when there is a sea of tiaras. When all the other ladies are in normal hats, it just looks weird.
I’m going to call it a “Fiara” and it SUCH an obvious FU to the ‘don’t-wear-a-tiara’ rule. Between that and the late arrival, I’m sure Pa and Camz are livid. There’s going to be soooo much leaking and briefing now that this frippery is over.
Party Pieces X SHEIN faux applique crown
C&C’s tiaras looked like something a child would design. Can they not rework these things to be more modern?
The big-arse crowns that Camilla and Charles wore are nothing like the tiaras everyone else would wear, so I don’t even know why they cared whether or not other people wore their tiaras. It would’ve made this whole event look a whole lot cooler if we’d seen foreign royals in their bling.
They should have had camilla wear a tiara as well, on the way up the aisles, to be replaced by the crown on the way down.
Zeroe tiaras was madness. It was less majestic than a state banquet, or the state opening of parliament, or QE2 at a film premiere, before she stopped wearing the tiaras at regular events, which in itself was a mistake.
If royals dress the same as everyone else, they look the same as everyone else, and people will see them as being the same as everyone else. Then people will question why they should pay millions towards the upkeep of people who are the same as everybody else.
The Frown! Lol.
The Tiyaara (for some reason all I could hear was Kate saying “arly yaars” whilst trying to say “tiara” at the same time).
Kate also seemed kind of…sedated as well. I don’t say that out of cruelty or to necessarily be mean. A huge event like this with my social anxiety, I’d be sedated too, so it takes one to know one. At first I thought she looked sad in the photos then upon a second look at the photos I realized Kate had a familiar benzo stare going on.
I hate to say this, but your observation may very well be plausible and explains the how she was at the coronation vs the concert.
Not sedated, incandescently angry because she couldnt make herself the main focus, like she does every other time. She is no victim of anyone or anything.
“I can’t believe it’s not a Tiara” needs to be trademarked!
The premium upgrade will come with a Bedazzler and extra rhinestones?
Thanks for the laugh @That’snotok
I’m with Becks1- she was told not to wear a tiara, so she wore a massive imitation tiara.
Tinfoil Tiara’s at proms will be the next big thing! LMAO
Kate wore a Tryara!
The one thing the royals are good for is timing events like these with military precision. So this was highly unusual and should be talked about more.
It can’t be because of traffic because they cleared the roads for this occasion.
Maybe Louis was throwing a tantrum. Maybe Will and Kate were fighting or throwing tantrums. Who knows.
William and Kate has form for arriving late. They also did it when Liz was the Monarch.
Well, when there have never been any consequences for your actions…
You are right ArtHistorian. I recall there was an event where QEII had to wait for them to finally arrive. I also recall that the TopCEO was very late for an engagement with Queen Margrethe during that pseudo-work tour she did in Denmark.
The one that comes to mind for me was that they left the Queen waiting for Easter service in Windsor. I will say this, QE2 was punctual to a fault, and took her church seriously. Of all the things to be late for, Easter shouldn’t have been one of them. The Queen was actually waiting outside St. George’s Chapel for them. Kate has zero reason to be late for anything, not with all the help she has.
From all different things/comments I’ve read over the years, William, himself, is not typically late. Which is one of the very few things I could say nice about him. It might be more like a couple of things. His ugly behavior is greater than one or two things he might be okay at.
Waitey Katie decided she would rather be Latey Katie. Their lateness has nothing to do with the kids. It’s an excuse the media perpetuates. I will never (excuse the double negative) not believe that it was Kate that made them late for the walkabout after QE2 passed.
Personally believe that W texted H, “Pa wants the two of you to do the walkabout with us. Can you be ready in an hour?”. Reply from the Sussexes, “Of course.”. If I can get ready in 15 minutes and look fairly decent…an hour for Meghan is nothing. She’s far more skilled, organized and naturally more beautiful. Kate was late then as she was for the conanation.imo
This event was so messy I wouldn’t be all that surprised if they had been given the wrong arrival time.
Everyone should have carpooled over on a bus, then nobody would’ve been late. 😀
The king waiting in the carriage for his heir to arrive…..yikes. he just should have entered and they could have slipped William in a side door, lmao.
there is really no excuse for their tardiness. Wrangling children? well there were just the two at that point and again, they have nannies. TRAFFIC??? really? Traffic? Like the roads weren’t cleared from KP to the Abbey? (I’m assuming they got ready at KP but maybe not.) I mean there just really isn’t an excuse beyond “they didn’t care enough to be there on time.”
The video they filmed prior to leaving shows them at KP.
See, this is where I’m at. It’s William’s father’s Big Shiny Hat Day. When we held a surprise 50th anniversary party for our parents, it was quite clear and established what time we were to be there for the surprise. (three quarters of the siblings had young ones to work around-no nannies for us peasants).
You bust your @ss to not be late. C&C “may” have arrived early simply because the The Wailes were not in front of them as they should have been.
No wonder the BM is harping on the Sussexes, who’ve done exactly what they said they were going to do. Best not talk about the Wail’s and their disrespectful behavior.
Let’s leave poor scapegoat in waiting Louis out of this, he’s just a rambunctious 5 year old. His father is clearly the designated tantrum taker of the family (until an adult Louis decks his adult brother).
I think when he put his finger in khate’s face at the jubbly…that was it! She said YOU deal with him, after all he has more experience! LOL
KP put out a video of them leaving KP and entering the car with their full attire on, including the kids. I strongly suspect that filming this video delayed their arrival because they have police riders clearing out their route so traffic is not an issue for them.
I’m not ruling out that the video was filmed later than it should have been because of some were at different locations but whatever the reason, there was clearly a fight about running late when they got in the car.
FYI another reason why we know they were late is confirmed in the programme for the coronation because it lists W and K arriving prior to the king and queen and doing it while the audience remains seated. But as we saw on that day, they ended up following in after Charles and Camilla.
If this was a delay of a minute or two, they would still have been able to keep to the original order. They changed it because the delay was too much.
Maybe they needed four takes like Dan Wootton.
LOL @PC. Four takes’ Wails! Eff the conanation…it’s our moment to get right!
What I don’t understand is the people planning this. Why didn’t they allow 15 to 20 minutes for Will & Kate. When they know they are always late. This just shows they are incompetent at their jobs. Or Kate did it on purpose to make a big entrance.
Agreed. When kids and filming are involved, you take extra precautions. You have them leave and they stay in a holding pattern somewhere so they will be on time.
My kids might contribute to me being a few minutes late to a restaurant, but they never make us late for things like flights because we have it precisely planned!
They time it for the monarch and everyone else has to bend. That Kate and William didn’t have all the time they needed to film a fan cam pre arrival isn’t a concern for the coronation.
Billy and Kate are to blame 100%.
William has looked CONSTIPATED for Years. Maybe his LAXATIVE kicked in?!! He blew up the plumbing and they had to wait for the plumber! LMAO
One would think, will all the clowns they have around them to help get this circus together, they could get this moment right. They looked miserable at this event and it was not due to Prince Henry being there. Although Kate did look and dance at the concert, she was stone faced at the coronation.
She had to wear her party pieces fake tiara with the bedazzled sparkles on it, that’s why she was so pissy. Also I’m sure W got one look at the headpiece and threw a fit. It was tacky after all.
It was Hysterical ! LOL
That might be it. William might have arrived from his separate house, seen her in the headpiece which looks like a tiara – she’d said it would be a floral headpiece – and told her she couldn’t wear it. She refused to take it off, they had a big row, neither would back down, and that delayed them.
Although if so Kate won the arguement and it’s more likely William would have won. Maybe she said she didn’t have anything else to wear.
I read a throwaway comment from someone at the DM so take it for what it is, I have no idea if there is any substance to this, but, they said that they knew someone who worked at the palace who had told them that there was some type of drama leading up to this and that Kate almost refused to go?!?
Again this is just gossip from the comment section.
These events are timed to precision unless something absolutely unavoidable happens. Some think maybe Louis had a tantrum, they should have made the difficult decision to leave him and not keep the King waiting. Shameless Pair.
Last minute tantrum from Peg. Probably not happy about kneeling to Charles and reading his notes live in front of cameras. Needed to get is incandescent rage under control and holding up Chuckles was just a bonus.
How long before they blame Harry?
“Walking into the abbey seeing the brother who was supposed to stay as his physical and mental punching bag was the hardest thing W ever had to do!
“Sources reveal Prince W was so angry about Harry’s presence he found it difficult to leave the house on time”
LOL. Thanks, that made me giggle.
🤣🤣🤣. So much to laugh at from the last 3 days, it’s literally been full of comedy gold on Twitter, but I do particularly like this.
They were too busy filming their infomercials and reshooting shots. No, but seriously, why did they both show up with faces of absolute thunder after making King Tampon WAIT?! Obviously the press won’t dare delve into this because Harry wearing a Dior suit is clearly a much bigger crime than making the King wait in his golden carriage. They are a pathetic pair of individuals.
Literally that was my first thought when I saw their little reels. That was why they were late (perfect angles and reshoots) and to even post them like it was some big thing is frankly a bit insulting to Charles.
They made this whole coronation about them. Tacky and insulting.
Yeah, the way they released that cute little video after having already been late.
They were filming their little movie beforehand coming out of Kensington Palace and getting into their car. And judging by the scowls on Burger King’s face and the Cheshire Cat grin on Kate’s face, it seemed like it was all her idea. Kate probably wanted to review the footage and do several retakes, just in case. Guaranteed this is why they were late and I think it was why Burger King was afraid to look his King in the eye when pledging to be his limbs and liege.
W cheated on K. She’s hurt and angry. K wanted to stay home but W needs her to perform as if all is fine. K wants W to pay for indiscretion so she becomes the saboteur of anything considered royal duty. I think W had more than a fling. I think things got serious and K feels threatened.
Kate wouldnt have missed the coronation for all the tiaras in Disneyland.
She’s wanted to be royal her whole life.
I’ve read before she punishes William for cheating with office girls by refusing to go to royal duties with him but that’s different. That’s work.
The Coronation was her chance to show off her status.
Yes this video was definitely the reason. And I think the developing story is them doing these videos about the coronation and excluding the guy who is being celebrated from them. (There is a concert video where it’s William mostly and a bit of kate and the kids but no Charles. ).
I saw that video and thought it was the weirdest thing! No Charles? He is the King, it was his concert. so strange. Also, through his misery Charles tried to look like a sweet Dad by saying ‘my boy’ when William kissed his cheek. So ridiculous. It is such a strange family with the hierarchy. He doesn’t care about them.
I hadn’t seen the videos when I posted earlier. Who exactly was clamouring for a “Get ready with me” video of the Wails? And once they realized it put them behind schedule, why not scrap it so you can be at the event that, remember, we were told William helped to plan? That he had an “important role”? And yet he somehow found the time for a self-serving video to embiggen himself. I’m sure someone cleverer than me can look at their post more closely and figure out exactly how much time they wasted while they were posing. Even if the delay was not about the video per day, wouldn’t you be at pains to avoid releasing it knowing that you were late for the event so publicly? Why post evidence? They are either clueless or careless.
It’s a pale imitation of Harry and Meghan and their documentary, done by someone who misses the point entirely. It’s all about William, always. And he and Kate will never show any authentic or unpolished moment, which is part of what makes Harry and Meghan compelling on screen. So his attempt at a documentary is bound to fail, if it even gets done at all – W is not exactly known for finishing projects.
I’m trying to imagine if one of the elder members of my family were celebrating a milestone birthday or celebration of some kind and I had a role to play. I would not risk being late, even if it meant my had to miss it or come later. How many of us would think “Oh, you know what would really honour Aunt Mary, a post of myself on social media. Not with her or honouring her – just showing what a good person I am to attend!”! And how many of us would then post that after the event has finished? It’s astonishingly bad manners and also I think misunderstands the public mood.
The Fail had a hit piece yesterday that said Chuck was 5 mins early and said it was all his fault the Wails were late as they couldn’t over take the procession which is bull shit – they should have left the palace BEFORE Chuck and its clear they left after him.
There were several news outlets saying that the Wails were supposed to have been already seated when Chuck arrived and that they were due to arrive after the Edinburgh’s. Their late arrival meant that the procession had to be shuffled to accommodate them so that they could take their seats. I wrongly thought they were part of the procession with Charlotte and Louis but they were not.
The rest of the RF were in their seats for a good 10mins before Chuck arrived – they should have been there with the rest of the family.
This was a deliberate power move – my money is on Waity being the reason they were late. Remember she has a long history of making them late for events, remember she made TQ wait outside St George’s chapel for them.
Both things are true – the Wails were late and Chuck was early. He was also early to the concert last night.
The fact that this has now become news means that someone ran to the Fail to throw Chuck under the bus – this will not go unanswered.
DF reporting to the people in the back that KC was over eager to be crowned? LOL.
EDIT: I have just seen the KP twitter feed and the video of the Wails leaving for the coronation – THEY LEFT FROM KP. Begs the questions why didn’t they leave from BP as from what i can gather the rest of the RF did. Judging by the look on Peggy’s face he knew they were late – Waity was mugging for all she was worth.
This is what’s really confusing me – why didn’t they all get ready at and leave from BP, Clarence House or St James palace. KP added in a whole other level of complexity.
It was never her plan to arrive on time. Nor Williams either for that matter. The plan, for THEM was to be late so that they could walk in behind camzilla and Charlie, so they could be sure they got maximum exposure. They argued because botox barbie wanted to wear that ridiculous, tacky head gear, to try and show Rose just (who I am), William saw it and told her to put it BACK ON THE WALL, where it was being used as a curtain tie back. Harry looked up as his father entered and thought “christ they have been arguing AGAIN! Grinned to himself because he looked smart and not like a clown gone mad in the dress up box. The war of the waleses in right of the scale now, and how William must have been gutted to see his Rose looking so elegant and classy, while he and his wife looked like they were preparing to be shot from a cannon
@Mary Pester — A curtain tie-back! Preparing to be shot from a cannon! LOLZ! You’re on the mark today my girl! This was Khate’s big FU — she almost certainly did this on purpose because, as per usual, she wanted to be the centre of attention. You could see it in her face — she had this sly, evil smirk on as she entered W Abbey. She looked exactly like my cat when he’s about to attack me. She knew exactly what she was doing but this is going to come back and bite her on the a$$. Let the wars begin!
I read an article that it said in the order of service: The Prince and Princess of Wales arrive and process to their seats and are seated. Next: Arrival of King and Queen.
So Kate and Will clearly missed out on their big moment to have the cameras on them and their darling boy and darling girl as they processed in. I’m sure they were looking forward to lording it over Third-Row-Harry. Can you imagine? All that scheming and planning and boom! No moment. All they got was an Instagram Reel that is not getting as much attention as Harry’s hanger.
Harry’s hanger!! I’m dying! That’s great! Andddd so very accurate!
Charles may have been early but I do not believe for a second that there was not communication between his team and the Waleses. No I don’t think W was texting his father nonstop but I am sure the staffers were in communication to make sure everything was timed perfectly. W&k just didn’t care.
Also it was important that they arrived first as George was one of Chucks pages.
So Wank would need to first find George’s place and get him ready and then find their seats along with Charlotte and Louis.
So whichever way this is painted they were late, because they needed at least 5-10 mins to settle their three children into their roles and seat themselves.
I think a few things went wrong:
– The IG filming required more than 1 take which likely just unsettled Louis
– WanK had a row about something – possibly the ‘headpiece’
– Will was not sure about the ‘kind of’ Tiara and possibly there was an even bigger less ambiguous head piece which Will then had to demand be switched out for the SHEIN piece.
– The distance from KP was a killer as everyone has said. I will never understand why they chose to travel in from KP when BP and St James are just round the corner and security arrangements and the route would have been better squared off.
I think George arrived with the rest of the Page Boys (or whatever they are). The organizers would have known better than to entrust his timely arrival to WandK.
The fan cam didn’t show George but only Louis and Charlotte so he was where he was supposed to be on time.
Again I would complain about the people in charge. If they were all supposed to arrive at certain times. Then why didn’t they all meet up in one place and then leave from there. That would make sure they all got there when they were supposed to. The only thing the Royal family has to use as being relevant. Is there ability to throw these large celebrations for the world to see. This is just showing that they can’t even do that anymore.
Haven’t there always been rumors about K being late to things? That would be likely to cause a quarrel with W. I bet there won’t be millions of articles about it being “disrespectful” like there would be for other family members.
When Kate was in Denmark last year was was consistently late. She even made her host, Queen Margrethe II, wait. She has no manners – but she must be really brazen to do this, or there’s something seriously wrong with her.
Maybe this is her way of having some control over the public/royal side of her life? She doesn’t want to be ordered around so this is her passive-aggressive push-back.
No one in the Middleton family has manners – kHate has a superiority complex, she thinks cause she married into the British RF that makes her more important than everyone else, even other royals.
Being consistently late is a narc power move – its about control and getting all the attention. She’ll get a kick out of making people wait for her – makes her feel important.
She was late but William likely was fine with it if it because the fam cam was his idea too. His concert fan cam is in the same style.
@equality, but this time it was camera angles don’t
William and Kate always abide by their own slow and lazy schedule. Why would they change for the coronation? They released their own pretentious footage of them departing, so maybe they were busy hamming it up for that. Or maybe they fought. Or maybe Kate had to add more fake flowers to her bizarre headpiece. Who knows. It was hilarious that KCIII was so pissed off. Note that Harry arrived exactly on time, all the way from California and likely jet lagged, but still looking more fab than anyone.
Sooo many possibilities! Maybe Kate needed more time in front of the mirror practicing her intimidating “head turned to the side” pose.
I think it was Kate, as well. She’s a bag of nerves, and probably dressed and redressed until the point everyone wanted to scream.
The way Harry greeted his cousins that morning indicates that that was the first time they were all greeting him. So I’m glad that that meant that he hadn’t even seen W before or after, therefore denying W the chance to physically abuse and verbally accost him again.
They’ were probably because of their desperado home made bts film.
We’ll probably here about it in the leaking wars in the coming days though
Also lmao, all that scheming and leaking to in the end @)not get your tiara moment and b) be shoved towards the end of the balcony. Good. Fight amongst yourselves. That’s what you deserve
The wales may have been late but Charles was early. By six minutes. His planned arrival time were in program.
I’m curious as to why once they were there Charles processed in before him. Why didn’t he wait and let them take their seats? Instead, in a breach of protocol (jump on that rota!) the Waleses followed the king.
Nah, William and Kate were late because they were filming a reel for Instagram.
What was Charles supposed to do once his carriage was at the carpet? He couldn’t be seen backing up. I mean. There’s no way around this kind of screw up.
Wait Charles actually did process in before them?? LOLOL. I wasn’t watching that part live so didn’t realize that.
The procession was already in place for Chucks arrival – it would have looked really bad for the Wails to flounce ahead of the King to take their seats. Plus I like to think being denied their big entrance alone was punishment for being late. Make no mistake they were late and they knew it – they clearly fought about it in the car ride there based on their thunder faces while they were waiting outside.
Geez, I feel for those children.
When William put the stole around the Kings neck he leant over and whispered something to him. Probably “sorry pa”
Someone up thread said that the schedule was for the Wales’ to arrive at 10:45 am and King Charles & Camilla at 10:53 am. That’s eight minutes later. Even if Charles arrived six minutes early that would still have been two minutes after William and Kate should have been there. This is 100% on William and Kate.
One of the benefits of being the monarch is that people work around your schedule.
Charles was determined not to be late, after months of preparation. So by going in first Charles made William look bad.
She looks like she’s about to break into her villain song in that last photo goodness. Unless Camilla decides to drop some info we’ll probably never know, but they do look like it’s harder and harder to appear next to each other in public without grimacing. I don’t understand how they have people under their spell as a happy couple.
Wow, this is such a nasty thing to say.
Not as nasty as paid reporters wanting to dangle Archie over the balcony at Buckingham Palace.
Speaking as a mom: I consider it really hard to be on time. We were invited to a christening recently and despite careful planning, arrived the minute before it started. Two wired yet tired kids, bit of dolling the grownups up, and one explosive diaper.
But at the same time, I have to admit that with W + K, it might have also been a question of priorities. Don’t think it was the hair, reckon that would have been done early in the morning. I think it was the filming behind the scenes. With three kids to shepherd out of the house, that might have been the straw that broke the camel’s back.
You may find it hard to arrive places on time as a mom, but that’s because you’re getting yourself ready while getting your kids ready. It’s a lot, you only have two hands, and kids get themselves messy as fast as you can clean them up.
These two, on the other hand, have a team of people getting each of them ready separately, and an army of people getting the kids ready. Think about how much faster you could get out the door with just one extra set of hands.
(Excellent) point taken.
You don’t have staff of dozens helping you and your kids get out the door. I really doubt W&K were hands on with the kids as they got decked out for the coronation … they have “the help” for that. And George seems like he was already with the other pages. I don’t buy the kids held them up. I think you’re right — it more likely had to do with getting perfect shots for the social media accounts.
W&K would barely have been getting ready alongside the kids, let alone hustling them out the door. The amount of staff that would have been on hand for the morning is huge.
Also, I’m sure you’re not filming Reels for Instagram when you leave your home.
They are all really just hereditary influencers anyways. Late getting the wigs and polishing the dome while trying to get that sweet content out for relevance!
I will bet money that we’ll see those reels show up in Will’s little documentary he’s planning about his life as PoW – you know the one that will be but a pale imitation of Harry and Meghan’s.
Speaking as someone whose friends have small to small-ish kids, I say not even a team of 50 can control kids under 10 at all times. If they suddenly need to go to the toilet, they need to go. What are you goingt to do, not let them go? George doesn’t seem to love public events in general so who knows what that was like. Charlotte actually seems like the only one who is somewhat fine with all of it and can sit still. And it might actually be worse if it’s the staff getting the kids ready.
I have no idea why they were late but it’s entirely reasonable to assume it was the kids.
If that’s the case then why bother with filming the video nonsense? If you are already running late then get a move on. Either these people are incompetent or extremely rude. Or both.
Because we’re living in the time of social media. That’s not optional these days if you want to hang on to relevance.
Wasn’t George already there? Didn’t he go separately as the other pages did? He had to be with Gramps to help carry the train.
George was with the other pages and only Louis and Charlotte were in the car with W and K.
When it is your father’s coronation and not your own, filming nonsense like getting in the car is just being disrespectful, especially if it makes you late. William doesn’t need to post anything on social media to be the next king. He literally need to wait for his father’s death. That is the only thing he has to do to get that position.
Come on. Every single bit of traffic was shut down for them. The excuses for two entirely lazy middle aged people, who get traffic entirely shut down for them, is absurd.
As a mom, I also agree, BUT they have an entire team of people. I would never be late if I had a team of nannies to get the kids ready and a team to do all my dressing, hair, and makeup.
Yes, but you don’t have Nannie’s and a team helping you get ready. And, George and Charlotte are old enough to take care of themselves to an extent. Maybe not to get camera ready for millions, but they’re an age and maturity to not undo everything while they wait to leave.
Louis is definitely a wild card, but again, there’s a literal team of nannies to distract him for long enough to get ready and probably not mess things up. There’s also enough people around the grown ups to tell them what time it is that there’s almost no reasons for being late.
I mean their whole responsibility was get there on time, walk in funny outfits down an aisle, and successfully sit in those capes.
Sort of tangental: in the days before the Chubbly, I caught part of a “white-washing of KC’s history” specials. On my f the commenters stated that had KC grown up on a council estate, he would have been taken away from his parents due to neglect (and at Gordonstoun) child abuse. So interesting comment, Bell.
It was definitely strange and made Chuck incandescent with penrage in his fancy chariot. There could be million things that caused it; I can imagine some wardrobe emergency or one of the kids throwing a tantrum. Still, it was such a nails on the blackboard moment.
That’s harsh, even for the Internet. Just because someone appears difficult or unlikeable doesn’t mean the are bad parents. And saying their kids should be taken away is incredibly mean-spirited.
Maybe there were held up filming that video for their social media. Where Charles, Camilla are never seen and even Kate is often barely visible. It’s all about Wills.
I know it’s easy to blame Kate (wrestling that small animal onto her head and securing the arts and craft tiara was surely no small task!) but I think it was just as likely a William power move to avoid being in any proximity to Harry’s entrance.
It’s easy for me to think it’s Kate because she is the one throwing the smug face and wearing the Temu Tiara. William has not been a pleasant person his entire life. It was reported him and Charles didn’t get along and Charles was close to Harry before Harry met Meghan. I don’t believe William likes anyone except himself and maybe his kids. Truly. He sure as sh*t doesn’t like Charles, Camilla, or Kate. He is a rageaholic but Kate is a mean girl. I can see William not caring if they aren’t on time but I can see Kate deliberately planning to be late.
Travelling with BASHER looks like the second hardest thing Kate has had to do, doesn’t it? Basher looks like his choice is for a slimmed down marriage with her safely locked far, far away from him and no joint appearances after the Chubbly!
In my family we have one couple perpetually late to things, including photos taken at important occasions. We finally got in the habit of telling them, this is the time. Be there, or miss it. They knew WandK are always late, they should have just told them be on time for once because this time we will not accommodate you, we will make you wait in a dimly lit corner until there is a convenient moment to slip you into your seats.
The Wails missed their big arrival photo op at the Abbey and were stuck in the middle of the procession where they couldn’t be seen and were ignored by the media – all eyes were on Chuck and Cams not these 2 twits.
kHate will be fuming she missed her big entrance – she does love a good entrance does that one.
Oh my gawd…the piano music from Balimort’s Instareel is KILLING ME.
My mother, who can see no wrong with anything William and Kate do, claimed they were probably late because they had to spend the morning getting the kids dressed. As if they didn’t have an army of help getting them all ready!!!
They were probably late because they were spending time filming that promo video of them leaving KP.
The fact that the king had to sit there, in the rain, in his silly golden carriage, waiting at the red carpet for people who were late and now messed up the procession because he couldn’t very well have his carriage BACK UP or leave to go around again to put it right, is beyond pathetic. He looked livid, because he knew he looked ridiculous waiting for his heir while miserable rain pelted his prohibitively expensive gold carriage.
This whole event was about stagecraft and they couldn’t even get the arrival and procession right.
It’s annoying reading comments that suggest these things happen, because no, they really don’t. This whole event was stage managed down to the second by people working behind the scenes with ear lines communicating the every move of each working part.
So the question is, why didn’t the king’s carriage delay itself somehow since they had to have known the sales were late. If Charles just pushed on feeling entitled, he made (another) really bad decision.
Power move on Chuckles part would have been to walk straight ina d let WanK embarrass themselves arriving g after the ceremony started
That probably would have been better, and force them to use another entrance. But then they’d be taking eyes from him as they entered. He really had his “big moment” screwed by them.
I am so glad this is over, mainly because it’s been Kate’s triumphant, or so she thinks, weekend of glory. Her smugness has riled me so much. I had a friend over last night, very glamorous ex model in her 70s, total monarchist. She said three very interesting things: 1) Kate Middleton wouldn’t make it thru a model agency door, she is “so bloody ordinary and it was a good job the really beautiful women were seated well away from her”; 2) they need to flog this moment because it’s downhill from here if they don’t watch it; 3) This will come back to bite Kate in the bum, because something is going to creep out the woodwork – no one is built up this high, in the UK, without a tumble back down, hard.
@Sparrow, I said the same thing upthread — this will come back to bite Khate in the butt big time. In a week or so Queen Concubine is going to start leaking. This was Khate’s big chance to behave herself and garner some good will, but her inner narcissist took control. Bad move, her marriage is now almost certainly doomed as not only did it make HER look bad, it made Willnot look bad. This was a direct insult to C&C, and when Willnot took the knee in front of King Pa, the tension between the two of them was palpable.
I have always said that Kate simply cannot behave herself in church. It’s either the Commonwealth service, or the Jubilee service, or H&M’s wedding – if she was the reason they were late to the biggest event in that family in decades, then she needs to be called out on her behavior whenever a church service is involved. She is just horrid and ridiculous.
I saw a clip of that moment online from the BBC. I assume it was Nicholas Witchell talking but it was awkward. He kept going on about how the wales were supposed to be there already and no I’m knew where they were. I wondered if for a split second people wondered if the wales might just completely bail.
I have been saying for months that the monarchy will not be abolished. It will just fade away when William fails to show up for his con-a-nation.
My guess would be a combo – it was a high profile event for the Wails, and everyone fussing and snapping at each other could have made them late, plus they would have known they were late, which always causes tensions to run high. And Charles is not known for his patience, especially on the “biggest day of his life”.
I don’t think the lateness was intentional as an insult per day, but more of a byproduct of the Wails’ self- importance and disregard for others. They have a history of making other people wait for them. Of course Harry, having been in the military for ten years and working for most of his adult life was going to be punctual!
I also would have left Prince Louis at home – in my opinion, he’s just too young to attend and not be distracting or disruptive. Couldn’t he just have appeared at the balcony later with his siblings? That might also hae been a factor.
Louis and his yawning were the highlight in that utterly boring ceremony.
Just as they are leaving, she picks up his phone and looks through it (she knows the password)
She reads his messages. He walks in. She holds it up to his face…
There’s no way on god’s green earth that Kate knows his phone password 😂😂
Oh I think there’s a very good chance she knows his password. He seems lazy enough to write it down and leave it somewhere obvious
People magazine is pushing happy families saying Kate and Camilla worked together to decode what they would wear. Yeah right
They were probably late because Kate hairdresser couldn’t get Kate wiglet to cooperate being it was all pinned up. I can picture Charles telling Camilla, “I hope my sons next wife knows how to be on time!”
I didn’t see any of this mess and haven’t really followed all the theories about their tardiness. But I will say that the balcony shot of both of them above is definitely telling a story. Will the king have to order them to get a divorce, reliving his own history with Diana?
I LOL’d so hard when I saw them shoved at the end next to the Edinburgh’s. Even better was that William had parked himself in her usual spot of being closest to the Monarch – that spot went to Rose’s son.
Will be interesting to see where she parks herself at the birthday parade balcony appearance next month.
Kate eyebrow makeup give her more of a harsh look
Of course their standard defenders are saying “they have three young kids, OF COURSE they are late” like no parent anywhere is ever on time and this wasn’t a huge, consequential event that would have had multiple aides assisting them in arriving on time.
I had to watch the clip for myself because I did not think Chuck would show he is ticked, but yea yes he is very unhappy. I laughed outloud. Thank you CB for that laugh.
Typical behaviour of lazy and disorganized people. It wasn’t important to William to be on time so he wasn’t. For the King to be kept waiting like that is really something and I would have been furious if I were him too.
The Duchess of Sussex would never have don3 that to him (couldn’t help but throw that in there)
The thing is William is always on time when he’s on his own – he did military training and lateness is seriously frowned upon.
kHate is ALWAYS late to events, always – at this point its deliberate. There are reasons why she can’t keep a private sec.
I suspect that she knew William wanted to film a few things prior to leaving and it’s likely he had banked time for it. If kate ran late then that made them all late and would explain why William iced her out when they were standing behind Charles waiting to walk up behind him, knowing that this was not the original plan.
I agree William tends not to be late on his own. He probably understood how his father would be pissed at the order of procession being changed up.
We will know more when the leaks target the culprit. If there is a Kate bash fest that will confirm it was her.
Is it tough to wrangle multiple kids to get to events on time? Of course. But most parents manage to be on time, at least in the majority of cases, without any help. It would be one thing if the Wales were late to a family dinner, to school one day, to a birthday party. But this was Coronation Day! A very big event planned down to the last second. And they had plenty of help. Each kid probably had a personal handler or three.
There was a reason why they were late, but whatever it was, it’s not an excuse. Not even a Louis meltdown can explain this away.
And every other Royal in history has managed it with young children, even when it was Billy the Basher who was always having tanties.
William and Kate were late. They messed up and they knew it. It was a BIG faux paux.
What I don’t understand is Charles’s reaction. Yes he was mad and had a right to be. It was rude of the Wales’s to be late. But the fact that he seemed to stew in it… at his BIG age and as the KING. He and his team should’ve had a contingency in place for something like this…
– was there no holding room in Abbey near the front where the King/Queen could’ve waited?
– perhaps he could’ve used the extra minutes to step out of the carriage and engaged with the public or at least some of the military men supporting his hat day… wave or do a quick walkabout
– if they knew on the way over that William was running late then they could’ve slowed down or made an extra round or two with carriage near the abbey
He has been preparing for this role for entire life and yet he acts completely befuddled if things don’t go to plane Why can’t he think outside the box or why does he have such incompetent staff who can’t think outside the box and plan effectively?
Not that this absolves William and Kate from being late. They are two grown asses people with a team of help and they still can’t make it on time? This monarchy is doomed.
I mean this is the guy that lost it over a pen. Having to wait in the carriage while his son and daughter in law were late for his big day? I’d be more surprised if he had actually stayed calm.
It does tell us a lot about Charles temperament, doesn’t it? He’s obviously built up this day to be all – important, and he’s certain that these symbols of status will elevate him in a way his personality will not. Maybe he felt that greeting people beforehand would detract from his kingly mystique 😂 but I agree – some goodwill might not have been a bad move.
QEII might have been privately annoyed by being delayed, might have even commented on it later, but she certainly would never have shown her irritation on her face as Charles did.
I think the next royal event is trooping the colour, right? Early June? (Why couldn’t they just have put the events together I don’t know – they seemed to have misjudged the public appetite for royal pomp this past year). But I imagine we’ll see right away if W and K are given a tighter reign or being punished with less favourable roles. And remember that Charles and Camilla still have the ear of most of the media. I would not want to be in the Wails’ shoes for the next few weeks.
Lolagirl, best comment here. Thanks for that pragmatic view… I feel the same. But Charlie is still just a petulant boy and a not too intelligent one at that. No way he could’ve thought outside the box. I don’t think he even knows there an outside.
All that theatre (badly done!) with all that stolen loot on stage for the whole world to see was embarrassing to behold. They looked like the Hamburgler thieving clowns to me. And it’s not Kate alone. That entire grifting family is gross. The British are so passé for allowing this level of a bloated monarchy in this day and age.
Kudos to Harry for getting out!
It is likely that he didn’t know how late they were and it did not seem like he was being told things from his staff while he was in the carriage. So yes he was likely stewing in it because he also did not know when they would arrive and how much time he had to vamp.
Also it was raining and there didn’t seem to be enough space , especially since those robes shouldn’t get wet as they are quite old.
It was his day and those two knew better. If kate was to blame William will make sure Camilla and Charles know.
The kids did not make them late. Don’t forget: the nanny got George on time with the rest of the pages, so the other kids would’ve been on time as well.
It was either a fight, a power play, or the video making.
“It was either a fight, a power play, or the video making.”
Why not all three?
I think it was a perfect storm, a trifecta of selfish, ignorant and arrogant behaviour that brought shame to KC3 and QCC in front of the world. Not a good move Wails…this will likely hasten the departure of Keen from the family.
Someone earlier mentioned how Kate’s affect reminded them of people on Xanax. I work with someone who has a Xanax problem, and it is hard to get people in that condition moving quickly. This plus the anxiety of the day, and this all just sounds like sheer hell…and that’s how it seemed from their faces too.
Remember when the Queen gave H&M their own procession at the Jubbly. I think K+W were being stunt queens and wanted to look like they were more important than Charles at his own coronation. I feel this is why they were shoved to the side of the balcony. After all the ridiculous tabloids about how Meg would pull a stunt and how Harry would try to overshadow the day it was K+W that manage to do the one thing they were asked to do. They are all vipers and they deserve each other.
Agreed. Those two are a whole mess. Can’t wait for the fights going on in the tabloids about this.
The order of service did give them their own procession, but prior to Charles and Camilla arriving. By being so late, they came in behind the other two and didn’t get their solo procession time.
I thought their lateness was the most notable thing that happened during the whole event. I mean, it was rehearsed to death- they even built a REPLICA of the abbey so they could practice incessantly without closing Westminster down. And those commenters saying “oh, it’s hard with kids” or “my family is often late”- no way would anyone reasonable take the smallest risk of being late for event of this magnitude. You’d get up 3 hours early to prepare so you can be sitting ready to be picked up. (And Louis IMO did not have the look of a kid who had just previously had a meltdown). This is one time I actually feel sympathetic to Charles- the biggest day of his life and his son is f*&king it up for him in front of 20 million people.
Also, as someone who has organized events before, I would have loved to be a fly on the wall to see how the event planners dealt with that snag! :-p
Charles let will and kate treat the sussexes badly
I have no pity for him.
I also have no respect for Charles. He turned a blind eye to all the things the trash tabloids said about his son’s wife and still does. And it was his younger son who flew 14 hours for this, came on time, sat on the third row, smiled, and then left without making any waves.
My theory: Camilla got wind of what Kate was wearing and sent over a blue tarp instead of the promised festoon necklace, so the Wales’ team had to scramble to put the robes and sashes together correctly. This would explain why KP was briefing about how Kate’s dress was embroidered with symbolic flowers (like her wedding gown!) and she would be wearing the George IV necklace (like the Queen!), but BP suddenly announced that she would be wearing her Dame Cross robes at the King’s request.
Interesting theory, I can see it happening.
I am amazed that this was allowed to happen. For an event as big as this that there wasn’t several staff insisting the Waleses “leave now” in order to be on time. So you’d think it HAD to be deliberate which again is amazing because WTAF?
Of course that would match the energy Willy gave off in his personal allegiance moment.. like he couldn’t care less really. No joy or happiness. Which leads me to believe it was all on William. Given the videos they put out where the spotlight is definitely about him, it appears he’s started his own coronation clock.
I’d say it’s explained by Carol Middleton’s truly horrendous appearance at the event, looking that ghastly didn’t happen for no reason. There must have been one hell of a bust-up between W&K, possibly even involving one of them threatening not to attend probably KM.
There’s a horribly sycophantic piece in todays D.Mail by that creep Richard Kay – promised a knighthood? – assuring its gullible readers that The Middletons will be centre stage to the new reign. If that’s the best attempt to explain their presence in the Abbey instead of, truthfully, having to be there to prop up the hapless KM then things are going downhill fast. Very fast.
Agree. I was surprised by how awful Carol(E) looked, like she’d been up all night blubbering. Between her puffy face and Khate’s evil sneer, something big and bad must have gone down. In fact I was surprised by the unretouched photos of her — she had huge dark circles under her eyes and looked like she hadn’t slept much either. This may be the (big) straw that will break the camel’s back for her.
They were too busy copykeeing H and M trying to shoot a mini documentary. It’s even on their social media pgs, clips of it, now the question of course is whether or not the media will take them to task like they did H and M. Then again we all know the answer to that.
Because sure, as the queen laid down the law to H&M about a life of service, she really meant a life spent trying to be an Instagram influencer . That’s basically their only goal now.
In so many pictures, W & K are leaning away from one another, even when they are side by side.
As for Charlotte, it looks like she has been made Mummy By Default for that little scamp Louis.
KP incompetence on full display. No wonder H and M set up a separate team back in 2018.
Zero excuses are acceptable for the Wails being late. Don’t blame the kids, the nannies would have gotten them ready. Don’t blame getting into the robes either as there would have been staff there to dress them. Don’t even blame the “I can’t believe it’s not a tiara” as there would have been a hair dresser/ wiglet tamer to place it. The lateness was down to the adults … or should I say notadults? William on his own manages to arrive on time to functions when he is on his own it’s Kate that is often late. Late to meet the royals in Denmark. So late to the church that Easter they arrived after the Queen. It’s a matter of respect and being late showed no respect for Charles. It showed no respect for those waiting in the Abbey, they managed to arrive on time. Even Harry could arrive on time and he came in from another continent. But no, these two had to be late. And for those who say Charles could have gone around the block in his carriage or waited in a side room? Why should he? It was his big day. I think it shows massive disrespect and bad manners especially to the people who organised the procession and the service people who took part. Not a good look Kate and William.
(Climbing down off my soapbox now)
This is going to be presented as exhibit A of how Kate can’t hack the role and needs to be set aside. She’s on her way out.
Totally on her way out. The Clowning was a shambles, Willnot’s pledge was a joke, the balcony grouping was a mess, methinks Khate is in deep doo-doo.
That first shot of Kate looking sideways gives me major Scarlett O’Hara looking smug vibes. Look at me Aunt Pitty Pat!
And I agree that the thread and tinsel tiaralite looked ridiculous and rather pathetic. I wonder if Rose knew about the Kopying of her tiara and wore the same black heels as Kate in retaliation. And yes Rose wore the heels better.
As for Baldemort he wore three out of his four normal expressions that day. Scowling, glum (sometimes veering towards extremely bored) and artificial smile. We didn’t have the pleasure of seeing his fourth look which is incandescent rage but it looks like Kate got to experience that prior to the coronation.
Harry must be in an excellent mental state to have shown up at the coronation and stayed calm and unbothered with so much negative energy swirling around.
My first guess is little Miss Pissy Pants was in a huff because she couldn’t wear a tiara and was “punishing” the king and queen for denying her a toy. She will pay very dearly for her pique. Very dearly.
I just find all this delicious — the aggravation caused to Charles, the feverish defenses of W&K from the derangers, the warring explanations that I expect will filter out over the next few days.
Meanwhile, a smiling Harry sailed into this mess like the true king he is, and then dashed away at the first possible moment.
Glorious.
I saw fan cams of Harry walking in and smiling to others, joking with the Archbishop of Canterbury and having a grand old time. He looked like one of the happiest of the bunch.
They were late because they were filming a reel for their IG. LITERALLY. There is a post on IG of them getting in the car and heading off. And it all looks very choreographed and timed. Which means they did it more than once. The Wales’ are always about themselves above all else. Even if it means being late to Will’s father’s coronation. I also think they did fight once they got in the car. But I think they were already late to begin with. Which may have spurred the argument.
Of course she looks happier at funerals. Every elderly Windsor dying off (including the Queen’s cousins) means the Middleton court gets larger influence.
And Khate was in her glory at the queen’s funeral because she thought she’d get her hands on ALL the jewels. Camilla knew better, however. And I love that for Kate.
Who is watching the jewels? Angela Kelly had keys. They changed the locks when the queen died. I hope that there is a team of people that are in charge of the jewelry. Don’t tell me Camilla is in charge.
Well, Charles is the monarch now, so he is in charge, and my guess is he defers to Camilla. He likes to see her in big jewelry I think.
Kate is wearing a big diamond necklace in the official portrait so she got to wear some bling after all.
But the fake tiara just looks even more desperate lol.
Ok here’s my theory: William didn’t want Louis there but Kate did, and then Louis ended up causing them to be late (maybe needing the potty when they were about to leave) and it pissed William off?
That’s a tough one. I thought of Louis too. But it could go either way. William wanted him there but Kate didn’t. Maybe Kate wanted him there to get attention and William didn’t want to use him. Anything is plausible.
They both look puffy. However, I’m blaming Kate for the lateness. She wants to make an entrance. She did it on purposes. If she was new I would say it was nerves but she knows what she is doing. She wanted a moment. She didn’t make that fake tiara for nothing.
Kate is showing us why she doesn’t have friends. She couldn’t be a team sport for 1 day. Granted Camilla doesn’t deserve this “wedding party”. Kate could’ve showed up on time, made an entrance, and kept the fake tiara.
When you see the pictures, Kate’s foil tiara stands out. Badly. Especially when you look at the other ladies either hatless or with a small fascinator. But that might have been her point.
They were making their own fan cams throughout this event so maybe they were late because they were busy being filmed for their little vanity project … and probably arguing as well.
Actually I looked up what the scheduled timeframe was for the arrivals and it seems that the carriage was both early and the car was late – but the car was more late than the carriage was early. The carriage was supposed to arrive at 10:53. I believe the carriage arrived 6 minutes earlier than it should have? Meanwhile, Kate and Williams car was supposed to arrive at 10:45. I believe they were at least 8-10 minutes late? My only guesses could be if Kate and Williams car was only at first running a minute or two late and that would have put them arriving at the church around the same time as the carriage which was running 6 minutes early and the aides freaked out because they didn’t want them arriving at the same time and had to come up with another game plan telling the car to hold off pulling up next to the carriage at the same time until they ran another plan by Charles? Or that something happened with Louis having a tantrum in the car and the car had to circle while they tried to calm him down. I find it hard to believe that they would have left their house late, as if they were in charge of when to leave and were driving themselves. Also I don’t doubt they might have gotten into a fight on the car, particularly once they realized the huge gaffe they were about to make getting there after the king, but I find it hard to believe that them being in a fight would have been the explanation and reason of them being late? Its more likely that they would have fought over the fact that they were already late and been stressed about that when they pulled up. They posted that video of them getting out of the house and into the cars and Louis etc. seemed to be fine then and they seemed unstressed then? I actually am super curious about what exactly went down and I hope the real story comes out.
Charles had every right to be annoyed. They should already be there or at least getting out of the carriage. So if Kate and William had been on time, the king arriving five minutes early would not have mattered. I still haven’t watched the coronation but I’ve seen enough pictures. Were they all arriving from different places- the Waleses from Kensington, Charles from Clarence or BP? Everyone arriving by car was on time because you can time the speed of the car. And the route was cleared of all traffic. Horses maybe not so much. I always had the impression that during trooping, everyone met at BP and started from there in pre-determined order. Anyway, the logistics person probably didn’t consider tantrums and photo shoots. And nanny should have been on stand-by so that if Louis had to go to the bathroom, he just didn’t go. Obviously George and Charlotte a little pros already. I think Charlotte was born knowing protocol. But it seems Kate at least already has a reputation for being late.
mumbles is looking miserable of late, well being princess of wales is not easy, for someone who is used to doing nothing!!
Clearly some bad pre-coronation crap went on, evidenced by Camilla being absent for the receptions, Carole looking stressed as hell and Katie-come-lately’s poker face. Charles was barely holding it together. Only the second tier royals looked OK. Guessing we’ll never know what went down but it made the coronation fugly.
Camilla was not at the receptions? What receptions? I missed that. Maybe her feet or her back were hurting…they are over 70.
Someone quipped that Kate looked like she had some poisoned apples on-hand, and I had to laugh.
I think she looked absolutely beautiful, but yes, she ALSO looked like an evil stepmother-queen.
Let’s say it like it is: the lateness was a deliberate upstaging of the king for clout, whether initiated by Will and Kate separately or together. It was a pre-emptive F U to Charles for “making” Will grovel before him and give an oath of allegiance, for Charles not abdicating for Will to be king now; for Kate it was her F U to king and queen over the tiara ban and her general uppity, focus-stealing antics. It had nothing to do with the kids! They are far less problematic than their parents. The parents made the kids late! Bottom line: Charles, Camilla, Kate and Will: NONE of them are monarch material. The one who is? He booked it to Cali hanger in hand.
I think it is such a poignant symbol of their and their teams overall laziness, disrespect and incompetence that just culminated that day.
Someone here said that the time to correct all this would have been years ago, not in the carriage outside! And I agree with that, this is just the natural result of letting them get away with everything and emboldening themself and sticking their noses in the air on the cost of everyone around them. To bad. this is what C&C is stuck with now.
H&M would never
They wanted to be late enough that they wouldn’t have to be seen ignoring Harry.
I’m wondering if Harry being seen with a hanger was a bat signal (secret message) to his beautiful wife, Meghan. “I have enough to hang them”, “When I get home you’re going to hang onto every word I say because oh wow”, “Hang on honey! I’m on my way!”
Also, is anyone else wondering if the female populous is going to wear a version of that silver flower helmet by the end of this week? It was the closest thing to a tiara she could think of, probably. Would Camzilla have ordered her be kicked out if she had worn a tiara?
What weird people…
Khate demands to be the centre of attention. Its always about her, dominating the cameras, right down to her 12 inch heels to allow her loom over everyone else. It is bizarre how she manages to always be much taller than everyone else considering many are the same height or taller than her without shoes. Being late is intentional,more focus and more photo opportunities for her. No tiaras was the edict, Khate wore a tiara because she wanted to stand out. It might have been fabric but from a distance it was still a large tiara. Her extreme narcissim would be very evident behind closed doors not just in public. There is nothing in her persona and history that makes her a victim of any kind. A very determined, cold and calculating person who targetted William and became the last woman standing. Why assume that the woman is always the victim, I have met and had in my life female monsters masquerading as charming vulnerable victims who actually terrorize and torture anyone who is in their way, family are most vulnerable. William is always presented as the abuser, in my experience Kate reminds me of the predators who have destroyed and irrepairaby damaged others, whilst always pretending to be the victim.
ales, good post. So the English rose is a Venus flytrap?
Definitely. The BRF is on a downward spiral, botox barbie a waste of space who focusses only on herself, her main claims to fame are to try to destroy anyone who gets in her way and her ability to find a camera lens to pose for, no matter what is happening.
Wow, the differences between the initial photos of Kate on Saturday and the some of the ones in this post are like night and day. I wonder how much longer they’ll be able to get away with editing her so much.
The videos of her at the ceremony also show how much she was photoshopped.
I cannot believe that no one has thought of another reason they were late. Krafty Katie Keen glued her fingers together with the hot glue gun while making that ridiculous headpiece. Wills could not understand what she was saying in her fake accent and was too busy trying to work out how one makes cheese on toast to care. Charlotte was too busy getting herself and the boys ready, because that child looks as though she could run rings around her Mother in that department. So poor Krafty Katie Keen was left squawking to herself until Nanny Maria came to see where the fourth child in the family was.
Didn’t William and Kate excuse themselves from a rehearsal because it was Charlotte’s birthday?
The couple has a history of being late. In Spare, when Harry takes Meghan to meet Charles and Camilla, he mentions that his father is a stickler for punctuality. They arrived early so they could enter on time. Filming and being on time were a total conflict; they could have revisited that scene later. They jump from project to project. What happened to Kate’s “Early Years” project? Dressed in business attire only a few weeks ago, meeting with professionals, using whiteboards, and trying to convince everyone that she was on a mission. Who will complain about them being followed by a camera crew or wearing microphones?
I am thankful Meghan did not attend, and Harry did not linger. The drama has yet to begin, and we’ll have to wait until Charles and Camilla finish their “Look at Us” Tour, and then the BP vs. KP will begin.
Anyone who’s grown up in a family with parents that do a poor job of managing their temper/stress knows that being late for a huge family occasion like this one is relatively inevitable, most of the time. And parents whose relationship is already sh-tty, who both have a temper, who don’t manage stress well, are not going to be the picture of marital bliss, let alone handle the situation with maturity or grace.
So I think the truth is somewhere within all of the stories. They were probably running late. William and Kate don’t like each other, and therefore don’t get along, and especially don’t get along under pressure. One of them probably snapped at the other one, the other one snapped back. Someone couldn’t find their shoe, their tie, their pants, their phone, whatever it may be. Someone else put the kettle on and it was probably going off in the background. And all this with the nanny in the house to manage the details of getting the kids ready.
Looking at the pictures, Kate looks severe, and her make up does not even bother to hide the bags under her eyes. William has a far off stare in both of those pictures. He looks like he’s lost in thought, and barely paying attention to what’s going on around him in the moment. Hardly the picture of a happy, harmonious family, like the one they desperately try to project, imo.
Frankly, divorce is too good for these two. I’d rather they stay together, and stay miserable, bc that’s exactly what they deserve for the harm they’ve put other people through. The only reason I’d advocate for a divorce is bc they have children, and those children deserve a fair shot in life. They don’t deserve to be brought up in a contentious home like that. All children deserve better. But otherwise, f-ck the newly minted Wales’. I hope Kate was miserable having to cope with Rose Hanbury, and Baldy stays constipated for another few days, and the local Boots near his house is out of Miralax.
OK. So no tiaras, which is disappointing because I love tiaras. What does Khate do? She wears a tiara! That thing was no floral headband. Maybe she thinks it’s not a tiara if it’s not gold and jewel encrusted. Maybe that was the behind-the-scenes drama. Someone looked at it and said you can’t wear that. That’s not the dress code. Kate pitched a fit. Drama ensued. She won that battle.
For me, it’s the first time I’ve seen a U.S. magazine last week (US Weekly to be exact) have an exclusive that WK’s marriage isn’t perfect and even mentioned marital struggles due to non stop Duties(LOL) . Although it ended that WK are still solid and ongoing drama they have with Harry. But it’s the fact that a major magazine source here in the US even went there and talked about pressures with their marriage. When they’re usually praising WK. Not to mention it was also picked up by other US media outlets . Makes me wonder who’s the source.
And with WK being late to the coronation, As others above has already commented, there’s probably going to be a downfall in the near future .
Arguing in the car in front of the kids. It’s gotten to the point where they don’t care if the public knows. Imagine how many times this has happened without anyone knowing. But those poor kids have known for a long time 🙁
The latest story is that Louis was to blame; he didn’t want to put his tunic on.
I don’t believe it, Louis is being used as a scapegoat again.
William and Kate are to blame.
William and Kate would absolutely throw 5 year old Louis under the bus. As the second spare, he was born to take the blame. And since Charlotte is popular now (and the only girl) she is protected. But wait till she enters her teens and any awkward phases of her teenage years. They will absolutely turn on her then. William and Kate are horrible people and horrible parents.
Why is it always left up to Charlotte to monitor Louis’ behaviour at these occasions. Meanwhile Will and Kate studiously ignore both children. This is not indicative of active parenting.