Kim Kardashian on parenthood: ‘There are nights I cry myself to sleep’

Kim Kardashian recently sat down for a podcast interview with On Purpose with Jay Shetty. She talked a lot about her kids and what her home life is like as a single mother. I know everyone climbs up Kim’s ass about everything, but she IS a single mother and she has been one for years. Even when she was married to Kanye, she was a single mom. Kanye was always in Wyoming or “running for president” or whatever, while she raised the kids in Calabasas. Now that they’re divorced, Kanye has time with the kids, but let’s be real – Kim is their primary parent and she’s with them like 90% of the time. Her kids’ ages now: North, 9, Saint, 7, Chicago, 5, and Psalm, 4. Some highlights from the pod interview:

On parenthood: “Everyone says the days are long and the years are short, and that couldn’t be like a more true statement. So, like, when you’re in it, I mean, especially when they’re babies and you’re feeding … there’s madness going on. It’s like full madness. It’s the best chaos though.”

On mornings with four kids: Detailing that “you have no idea what’s going on” in the mornings, Kardashian adds, “It’s like I always have to do one of my daughter’s hair — and it has to be perfect and it has to be a certain way — and then this one needs me to put his shoes on and they all need you. … It’s like full crazy madness, cooking, running around. Like, it’s wild.”

A mother’s tears: “Parenting is the thing that has taught me the most about myself. It has been the most challenging thing. There are nights I cry myself to sleep. Like, holy sh-t, this f—ing tornado in my house. Like, what just happened? You know, with all the moods and the personalities and sometimes they’re fighting, and you know, there’s no one there. Like, it’s [just] me to play good police officer and bad cop.”

Parenting is really “f—ing hard.” “That’s the only way I can describe it. It is the most rewarding job in the entire world. It is. There is nothing that can prepare you. … I don’t care how long you wait. I don’t care what you’re waiting for. You are never prepared. But you will figure it out, and it will make you so proud of yourself that you figured it out and that you got through the day.”

Nights with her kids: “We are going hour by hour to see if we’re gonna survive night by night. If a tantrum comes in, oh my God, your life is completely upside down. But it teaches you so much more about yourself than I think anyone, any parent, could have ever anticipated. I mean, there’s nights when you don’t wash your hair for days as a mom and you have spit up all over you and you’re wearing the same pajamas, especially in COVID. It was insane, you know?”

[From People]

I’m sure people will talk about her nannies, and she does have nannies and I don’t blame her one bit. She has four kids under the age of 10: bring on the nannies. I also remember when Kim used to make motherhood sound pretty easy and like her kids were always so well-behaved. It’s good that she’s now talking about how chaotic everything is and how they have tantrums and all of that. Anyway, I have no doubt that Kim will turn her kids into the next generation of reality stars and influencers, and yet… I think her kids will turn out to be more well-adjusted than most celebrity kids.

Photos courtesy of Backgrid, Kim’s IG.

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  1. Cait says:

    I have three – 11, 9, and newly 8 – and it’s exhausting. This is maybe one of the most relatable things she’s ever conveyed – though, to your point, her circumstances are different.

    But I don’t need to bag on her advantages. Parenting is HARD. And there are days where it can absolutely break you.

    • Eleanor says:

      Same – but if she needs to acknowledge her support system more if she’s talking about how hard the day to day challenges are for her.
      A nanny is the scaffolding in any family. It’s a heart & soul job. At least give them some credit. Kim’s an influencer, why not give this role a mention?

      • Cait says:

        I absolutely agree with this, but we also know that Kim is A Brand, and she’s never going to highlight anything that isn’t utterly sympathetic to her – which is to say, she would NEVER.

  2. I don’t feel sorry for her. She chose this many children and yes she has lots of help. Absolutely no sympathy for her.

    • Lux says:

      She’s not asking for your sympathy. She’s just saying it’s hard but rewarding.

    • Josephine says:

      Except for that oldest sister it seems like each of them has very purposefully chosen partners that would be sperm donors and financial contributors only. I imagine the men knew the score, but they should have just used sperm donors because the kids are left wondering about the absent dads. And Kim is well on her way to commodifying a 9-year old, which seems so very disgusting.

    • Minnieder says:

      I’m with you @susan collins. I’m a single parent too, along with millions of other women and men around the world. I’m not anywhere close to rich but I have more than a lot of other single parents, and on my hardest days I remind myself of that and tell myself to get the f*ck over it and be grateful it’s not more difficult. Hearing someone in her position pretend to know what it’s truly like to do everything alone is maddening!

  3. Ameerah M says:

    Kaiser I am so glad you covered this! I listened to this episode a few weeks ago and I was struck by how honest she was. Especially about what it’s like parenting with someone like Kanye. It’s obvious that he is the cause of a LOT of the stress she feels when it comes to her kids. She is shielding them from a lot.

  4. SquiddusMaximus says:

    Yeah… no. I have no sympathy for her like I would have no sympathy for Trump having long COVID or one of Ivanka’s fake boobies exploding. While the condition is objectively awful, they are such awful human beings that the situation is right and just.

    Make no mistake, I loath the Kardashian industrial complex and all the hurt it potentially does to young women.

  5. Kitten says:

    Better her than me lol.

    I just don’t see how her kids come out of this situation well-adjusted TBH. There’s just so much toxicity in that family and a lot of questions about just how involved Kanye is in raising them. We talk incessantly about the importance of mothers being good caretakers and present in their kids’ lives but rarely do we as a society place these same demands on fathers. I’m kinda embarrassed to admit that it took me almost losing my dad a couple years ago to fully recognize what a great (although imperfect) father he’s been to me. It was also a big help to my mom to have someone to assist in co-parenting. So yeah, I hope Kim has a good support system that extends beyond just nannies because these kids will need it.

    • Kitten says:

      Too late to edit but I meant to add that I hope the kids come out well-adjusted despite the problems within this family. I don’t mean to doom them when they’re still so young–just that I think they’ll have an uphill climb despite their advantages.

  6. girl_ninja says:

    Being a mom isn’t easy. I watched my mother struggle to take care of both myself and my sister. My mother didn’t have nearly the resources Kim does as a single mother. She has nannies, her family and therapy if need be. She chose to have all of her children and I hope they feel love and turn out well, but she’s not getting any rewards from me.

    • Pointillist says:

      She talks as if she does everything herself. It’s wild.

      • ME says:

        Yeah she acts like she’s alone in that house with the four kids, which just isn’t true. Even during covid lockdowns she was not alone with the kids. She needs to stop. She lies so much it’s laughable. She’s trying to get publicity because the new season of their show is about to begin. They need viewers or the show will be cancelled.

      • Ameerah M says:

        Did you actually listen to the podcast episode? Or just read the excerpts? Because in the podcast episode she talks quite a bit about the help she has. So no, she isn’t making it seem like she’s the only one taking care of the kids.

    • Eleanor says:

      Wonder how the nanny feels?

  7. OriginalLeigh says:

    I will probably get slammed for saying this but I really struggle to sympathize with an ultra-rich and powerful woman who went so far out of her way to have FOUR children with a partner who obviously wasn’t capable of fully being there for her or her kids. To be clear, I’m not criticizing her for having the kids. I respect every woman’s choice in that regard and she is very lucky to have unlimited resources in terms of healthcare, wealth and a village of family members. I’m just saying that while I know parenthood is hard for everyone, she is significantly better off than the vast majority of the world and she chose to just keep having kids with an unfit partner because of some made up rule about only having kids with one guy. Even if she really felt strongly about that, she could have chosen to stop at two kids. So I can’t sympathize with her “single mother” struggles. I just can’t. If anything, I feel bad for the kids who have to grow up with two narcissistic parents. (I’m not absolving him of his responsibility, as he also made a choice, but he has been clearly unfit for quite some time).

    • Pointillist says:

      I watched a bit of the podcast and what passes for self awareness is really wild. We live in a parasocial world.

    • Carnivalbaby says:

      All of this @originalleigh. I still cannot understand after she began to see who Kanye was mentally she still went ahead, doubled down and had more kids with that man. I worry for them, honestly.

    • SquiddusMaximus says:

      It boggles my mind how most commenters go so far out of their way to be kind, empathetic, and compassionate to Kim, despite the very objective hurt the Klan does to young women. Kim does not care about you; I struggle to see why we should have to empathize. Would you empathize with Amy Comey Barret lamenting childbirth struggles? Hard hell no.

      • otaku fairy says:

        That’s never been true of most commenters. If anything, you’re more likely to see people going in the opposite direction with her, the other sisters, and the daughters and trying to start fights with any commenters whose takes aren’t similarly outraged enough for them. As far as the harm they do to young women’s body image goes, young women have much bigger fish to fry than plastic surgery and tummy teas.

      • Josephine says:

        @otaku fairy – I respectfully disagree. it’s not just a little plastic surgery and teas we are talking about. it’s the message that women are never, ever good enough, that the only thing that matters is what we look like to the male gaze, and that we should focus our time and resources to look and even sound like the woman that a man would want.

        The Ks are promoting the very formula that the right wing uses to keep women in their place and to keep control over our bodies. It is one and the same.

      • SquiddusMaximus says:

        Fully concur, Josephine. The Kardashians are a major contributor to the Diet Industrial Complex and body dysmorphia. Their entire brand is built around extreme body modification, surgeries, needles, dramatic weight loss, etc., none of which is natural. Coupled with that, they pretend their interventions are all minimal and noninvasive, which is absolute BS. It’s like GOOP “any woman can be 112lbs with 20 minutes of dance and a clean diet” on steroids.

        Unfortunately this family is visible through social media, which evidence suggests is extremely damaging to kids’ self-esteem and self-image anyway. I don’t see any upside to what these vapid, dull women do.

      • Mel says:

        @Otaku, there are many insecure young people out there who follow them and buy into their B.S.. If you just diet and exercise you’ll look like me ( they get their bodies from the surgery) , if you use my makeup your lips will look like mine . It messes with their heads. They are doing a LOT of damage.

      • Mrs. S says:

        @Josephine, except none of the women are even with men except for Kourtney now. I think if anything, this clan is showing that women don’t need a man to lead successful and fulfilled lives. Sure they’re plastic surgeried to the max, but so what? Society has always made girls/women feel less than; that wasn’t the K clan’s doing. They worked it all in their favor, and I’m kind of in awe of it.

      • Josephine says:

        @ Mrs. S. Like many rich people, it’s a brand they sell, not one they necessarily adopt for their own. At the end of the day, you die leaving the world a better place or a worse place, and in my mind, they’ve made the world a worse place. They make their money from making women feel less-than. I don’t admire anything about that.

  8. Normades says:

    Even if Kim is very wealthy and can afford lots of help, she IS a single mother. Kayne only seems interested in the oldest and hasn’t been a presence in his kids lives. Emotionally for what it’s worth and for all their different routines, Kim is the only one present end of story. Kayne peaced out a long time ago and isn’t a father in any sense to those kids (except maybe money and reputation but that’s not what being a present parent is about).

  9. Nicegirl says:

    It is really hard sometimes.

    💕

  10. Naomi says:

    I am totally indifferent to her influencer career, her bad fashion, the sex tape, whatever– girl, you do you. Where I draw the line is her classism and racism and her faux-feminism. No way anyone in the 1 % who tells the mass public to “get off your asses and get to work” is getting an ounce of sympathy from me. Yeah, single parenting is hard. There are truly a gazillion other single moms I’d rather hear from first than her.

  11. ChillinginDC says:

    Well this is the same woman who was okay with her husband attacking women and other Black people so though I feel sorry for her on the whole single mom thing. She knew who he was.

  12. HeyKay says:

    Nanny 4X. Plus, household staff.
    Stop with the BS.
    Kim is not hands on with any of her kids.
    All the K’s kids are used as photo and click bait.

    • Sue says:

      Legitimate question: Do we know that she actually has 4 nannies?

    • Fabiola says:

      I can’t really see her hands on with her kids. Rich people have staff that does all the hands in work. I’m sure it is stressful co-parenting with Kanye. I just can’t stand it when people have a lot if kids then complain in how stressful it is. What did you think four kids was gonna be like?

  13. FHMom says:

    I really hope her kids turn out to be happy, well adjusted adults. Despite all their wealth, they have some huge disadvantages. I think my three are luckier than her four.

  14. JustMe says:

    It boggles the mind when you look at who all those Kardashians/Jenners chose to have children with. Scott alcoholic narcissist, Kanye bipolar narcissist, Tristan repeat cheater and Travis always high on weed or worse drugs. This is a family of considerate wealth, all beautiful and accomplished, yet they all picked partners most women would run from. So strange

    • Normades says:

      I think they chase sperm donors that give them clout and publicity and that’s it. Scott is a messy outliner there. Afterwards they probably don’t really care about these men. The kids stay in their circle and if the fathers aren’t there it’s not a problem for them.

    • Mel says:

      How are they accomplished? Those companies aren’t even theirs, they’re partners in them and they just come in and become the face after someone else did all the hard work. Buying expensive, ugly clothes, having children with men who cannot even parent themselves and constant plastic surgery so they look like Barbie dolls, pushing harmful diets and teas, starting to put your 9yr old on the same destructive path is not an accomplishment.

      PS- Let’s all hold our breath and wait for Kim to become a lawyer. When she figured out that what she thought was the easy way was really quite hard, she wasn’t so fascinated with it anymore…..

      • SquiddusMaximus says:

        Fully agree. Just like I watch shark attack videos, I have occasionally tuned in to KUWTK, and I am shocked at how utterly vapid, incurious, and uninteresting this lot is. A spectacle of dullness surrounded by opulence. Lots of whinging about how busy and stressful it is planning, like, a dinner. Or going to a dinner.

        I am uninspired.

  15. Smart&Messy says:

    In the second to last photo with the blue background, I thought it was Kylie. I had to zoom in to see who it is.

  16. Sue says:

    I struggle a lot with parenting. The tantrums, the picky eating, the daycare illnesses after daycare illnesses (both my husband and I work full time). I don’t know if Kim has nannies to help with her 4 kids. You could say I have help in raising my child by being able to afford to send her to daycare during the week (actually my mom helps us out with that). It’s still really f–cking hard. I am hearing what she is saying.

    • Normades says:

      Like you said Sue. Parenting is hard and I sympathize. There are some really unkind comments towards Kim here. While I am certainly no fan, when she says it’s hard for her I believe her. I like many other fault lots of her choices but it’s good to have a little bit of empathy at the same time. I think she is trying and suffering at the same time.

  17. Mel says:

    Uhm… how many nannies and personal assistants does she have? She CHOSE to have how many children with a man she knew was mentally unstable, she has access to how much money? Yeah, can we stop singing all the sad songs for a rich white woman crying her tears when there are millions of single mothers out there with little to no help ,no millions at their disposal who are struggling to make it every day and raise decent people? Please she is no example to anyone who’s living a real life, stop trying to make it sound like she’s like most single moms. She is NOT. Kim can stuff it with her PR propaganda of “whoa is me” mess. This whining of hers is in poor taste, which is the usual for them.

  18. ME says:

    Oh come on. There is no truth to anything this woman says. She’s up in the morning doing their hair and cooking huh? Yeah so what do the nannies/chefs/maids do? Just sit around? She’s full of sh*t. She’s not with her kids 90% of the time…the nannies are. Also, Kanye doesn’t call the paps every time he’s with the kids, unlike Kim. I’m not on Kanye’s side either. He’s a garbage person. I feel bad for those kids. They don’t stand a chance.

    • Mel says:

      Agree, those kids will be affected because of their parents narcissistic messiness and untreated mental illness for the rest of their lives. As an extra special treat, one or more may even inherit Kanye’s mental illness. My sympathies lie with them not with their selfish parents.

  19. Yonati says:

    She’s got a village taking care of her kids. She can get massages and go on vacations and have a boyfriend and and and… That’s not at all my experience of single parenting. She is right on a semantic technicality only. That doesn’t mean that’s her actual experience. It’s not single parenting when you have a bunch of adults around to help out. That’s communal parenting.

  20. Oh the outrage says:

    If Kim can’t voice her feelings that parenting is hard because she’s rich and KNEW what she was doing in having kids with Kanye THEN maybe Meaghan should also shut up about how hard it’s been marrying a Prince who’s hounded by the press and paparazzi. It’s not like it was a surprise what she was getting herself into.

    • Give Me a Break says:

      Meghan actually did NOT know what she was getting into because she is the first woman of color to marry into that particular white supremacist organization. The comparison is ridiculous and gross.

      • Oh the outrage says:

        Meaghan only had to look at what the press and royal family did to her husband’s dead mother (an aristocratic white lady). The cautionary tale was right there

    • Mel says:

      So not the same thing. Keep carrying water for the rich, entitled white woman who’s surrounded by support and help .I have a bridge to sell you if you think she cooks every day or even does the day to day Mom things that average single Mothers have to do. Kim isn’t worried about rent, or buying food or clothing her kids or trying to figure out what she’s going to do with them because they get out of school before she gets out of work. I’m sure it’s really hard to tell your assistant to tell the nanny that the driver needs them to be ready by x time so the kids can go to school.

    • otaku fairy says:

      Nope. Being a celebrity single mother isn’t at all the same as the hell Meghan has been put through for just existing as a woman of color who married British royalty. Two completely different situations. Not even close.

  21. Jess says:

    Not sure how they will be more well adjusted than most celeb kids. Kim gets a lot of grace on here.

    Her kids are reality stars and are on constant display. North is publicly outspoken about the paparazzi as it clearly causes her distress. Kim doesn’t care.

    North also seems to be older than her years and does whatever she wants. Seems like a recipe for disaster.