VF: Princess Kate was told that she can’t attend to the nitty-gritty of childrearing?

Vanity Fair recently published a piece called “From Handshakes Instead of Hugs to Prince Louis’s Adorable Antics: The Peculiar History of Royal Parenting.” I thought it was just going to be praise for Prince William and Kate for not being sh-tty parents like so many of William’s ancestors, because the bar is (as always) in hell for the Windsors. Much of the article is just that, but there are some interesting stories about how royals all around the world, throughout history, have always been awful parents. King Charles is even criticized, not for being a dogsh-t father (it’s true) but for having the kind of childish arrested development typical of people sent off to boarding school. Some highlights:

The royal absentee parent: “Royal parents traditionally had nothing to do with their children’s day-to-day care when they were very young—George V, the late Queen’s grandfather, once saw a maid pushing a pram along a corridor at Buckingham Palace,” Tom Quinn, author of Gilded Youth: A History of Growing Up in the Royal Family, tells Vanity Fair. “He said to the maid: ‘Whose baby is that?’ The maid replied, ‘It’s yours, sir.’”

Royal children were sent off to become mini-adults: “In medieval times, royal princes and princesses were sent away aged just eight or nine to live in other aristocratic households—the idea was to make the child into an adult as soon as possible,” Quinn says. “The modern version of this is the royal obsession with boarding schools: sending princes and princesses to schools where they live and work 24/7 and only return home every couple of months. The royal obsession with making princes and princesses as mature as possible as early as possible actually has the opposite effect and many royal children (especially boys) never really grow up. They behave like children when they grow up because they were not allowed to be children when they were young. This applies to Edward VII, George V and VI, Edward VIII, and especially King Charles.”

QEII was a cold & distant mother: “Elizabeth…inherited the idea that the young Charles and Anne must be looked after by nannies and governesses—they had nothing to do with Charles’s and Anne’s daily routine when they were babies,” Quinn writes. “All the work was done by paid staff and Elizabeth and Philip saw their children just once each day for a very formal meeting. One member of staff told me that, ‘Queen Elizabeth would no more visit the nursery than fly—instead we took the children to see her each day.’”

Princess Diana shook things up: In many ways, she started a royal parenting revolution that was adopted by many European ruling houses. She was demonstratively affectionate in private and public, took them to McDonald’s and amusement parks, and made sure many harsher aspects of royal life were not imposed on “her boys.” It is a legacy of involvement her sons are attempting to follow, expand, and refine (no McDonald’s for Kate’s children Prince George, Princess Charlotte, and Prince Louis).

Middle-class Kate: “William and Kate—but especially Kate—are determined to do things differently,” Quinn says. “William was brought up partly by Charles (who was embarrassed by physical affection) but also by Diana who loved to hug her children. But despite their slightly more modern outlook, both Charles and Diana still relied on paid staff—nannies—to do most of the work. Old habits die hard!”

Will & Kate are still restricted in how much control they have over their children’s lives. According to Quinn, when William and Kate discussed sending their children to state schools, there was pushback from “The Firm.” And the family still has a huge staff, including super nanny Maria Teresa Turrion Borrallo. “When [Kate] demurred and suggested she would like to do a little more the nitty-gritty part of the childcare,” Quinn writes in Gilded Youth, “it was made very clear to her that this was best left to the professionals, and Kate is nothing if not obedient to the rules of life in the royal family.”

Prince Louis’s antics. “Old school royal parents would have felt Louis’s behaviour was undignified for a royal child of any age,” says Quinn, “because elements of the old obsession with royal princes behaving like adults even when they are still children still persists, but Kate and William are acutely aware of how much good publicity comes from having a charming child!”

[From Vanity Fair]

“It was made very clear to her that this was best left to the professionals, and Kate is nothing if not obedient to the rules of life in the royal family…” LOL. You guys, Kate HAS to employ a big household staff, because the Windsors dictated that to her! Please. While I agree that Kate changed up the royal-parenting rules (much like Diana), let’s also be clear – Kate wishes she could have even more staff. And a bigger house. And a husband who viewed her as something more than his children’s main childcare provider. “Kate and William are acutely aware of how much good publicity comes from having a charming child.” More like Kate and William use the children as buffers and distractions from their own bullsh-t.

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  1. Eurydice says:

    OK, wait a minute. What happened to all that twaddle about Kate being a hands-on mother and picking the kids up from school and baking them special treats? And how the world has to cut her some slack about not working because she’s so involved with her children?

    • Amy Bee says:

      I’m sure she does bake special treats with the children but the majority of the child rearing is done by the nanny this was proved at the Jubilee concert.

      • Eurydice says:

        Yes, I was referring to all the recent articles about what a Supermom she is and how she can’t take on too many royal duties because, children.

      • Kingston says:

        @AmyBee
        It tickles the hell out of me when I see folks making positive assertions about the capabilities of demonstrable know-nothings like kkkHate.

        There’s nothing that we hv been allowed to see so far of the competence of kkkHate in any field of endeavor that wd allow any reasonably intelligent person to conclude that, oh its a given that “she bakes special treats with [her] children”……not when, up to earlier this year, we saw her cringy, embarrassing attempt to make crepes; and not when we saw her inability to even hold a box of milk at a food bank like she knew what it was.

        And throughout the 10 years of her motherhood (and even before that) that her handlers hv been pushing her down our throat as the most hands-on, skillful, domesticated yet sophisticated woman and mother the RF has ever had, especially since the arrival of a real-life foodie and demonstrable, chef-level cook into the RF, we hv yet to see any evidence of her ability even to get water boiling in a kettle.

        So miss me with the trumped up evidence of her abilities in the kitchen.

      • JR McGraw says:

        What happened at the Jubilee concert?

      • NotSoSocialB says:

        @Kingston-
        This made me laugh very hard bc it evoked the holiday chutney story from before or early in the marriage that posted here way back when, hahaha!!!
        Yep, dating myself and my history here, lol

      • westcoastgal says:

        Kate can’t even flip a pancake so I doubt she bakes treats for anyone.

    • SarahCS says:

      That’s what I’m enjoying here, in amongst they obligatory ‘they’re SO wonderful’ nonsense they are telling us things that have been fairly successfully hidden loud and clear.

      i’m not sure who is driving which narrative right now but I am enjoying the show. KKKhate better watch her back.

    • The Hench says:

      Yeah, I’m getting whiplash from the changes of direction. Just this month alone we’ve had:
      Kate only works Tues-Thurs! Kate needs a break! Kate always obeys the rules! Kate is steelier than you think! Kate has to let the nannies look after the children! Kate can’t work because …kids! Kate is the best mother because she’s middle class! Kate doesn’t know how to wear jewellery…because she’s middle class! Kate shows her affection for william with PDA! Kate and William happier doing solo engagements!

      I mean….sheesh.

      • Kingston says:

        Wow @The Hench………when you set it all out like that (and we all know thats only the tip of the iceberg of contradictory narratives about kkkHate) it makes us see the schizophrenia for real! LMAO

        Its the ‘blank slate’ phenom in real time. H told us that this is how the
        RF and the britshidtmedia operate: they try to “create the news” and in cases like this: create the narrative, about certain individuals and push it down the throat of the gullible or unsuspecting public.

        As the next queen consort, kkkHate’s image is one that the palace sees as theirs to control tightly. However, while some of their cumbolo in the shidtmedia hv been on board with the message, others who are not in the inner circle of briefings and leakings and drink-up sessions by the palace, go rogue on the message……sometimes its an attempt to stick-out so that the palace will call them in and offer goodies in return for getting with the program.

      • B says:

        I can totally believe that the institution looked at Kate and told her her only purpose there was to breed.

    • Lizzie says:

      Hasn’t her excuse for being out-worked by rf over 70 been because she is a hands on mom? I’m not sure if there is something behind this like a push to get her to work more?

    • Jojo says:

      …when William and Kate discussed sending their children to state schools…

      The people who genuinely believe that this discussion ever actually happened are the same ones that would happily send money via bank transfer to destitute Nigerian princes.

  2. I don’t believe that any wanted to to the more nitty gritty. I do believe she likes the photo ops with them and try’s to make it look like she’s all that and a bag of chips with them but it doesn’t always work. Diana was the best at parenting she did love to hug them. Meg and Harry are real parents and very involved with the day to day. I really don’t believe that Peg and Cant want/or are day to day with the kids.

    • BothSidesNow says:

      I agree with you. For Keen the childrearing is an excuse NOT to work when we know good and well that she is not deep down in the nitty gritty of raising those children. I suspect that she may see them once they are home from school, at dinner and then a good night to each. Every other bit of duty is solely on super Nanny Maria as she is the one getting them up, dressed and off to school and helping them with their homework.

    • Bam says:

      I really believe that Kate loves being a mother. I also think that raising children in their public eye is a challenge because everyone is OVERLY Critical. I think she probably wanted to be more hands on especially at the baby stage, she always talks and coos over babies. I have no doubt that Will and the firm wanted nothing to do with that and pushed back if Kate did want to make those changes. As someone who comes from a family that has the same ethos as the royal family about emotions I don’t doubt they would see being too hands on with children as making them soft, spoiled ect for affections.

      I speak for myself but I love love being a stay at home mom and would love if I could stay at home plus have help for tasks that take away time from my children such as cleaning. Additionally I’d love help to get a break as well- or rather just some self-care/me time.
      Kate usually has an excuse of motherhood of why she’s skipping lots of work but what the heck is William doing all day- he doesn’t seem to be picking up the kids or being that involved. I say this because if he was I feel like we would hear alll about how a hands on parent he is

      • WiththeAmericann says:

        Weird I don’t get that vibe at all from her. She just isn’t a warm person and I don’t see her kids responding to her with open affection like Diana’s boys did. Every politician coos over babies in public, that really doesn’t mean anything except they want the public to see them as a good person.

        There’s a lot of work made trying to paint her into this super mom, but it doesn’t track.

      • Nic919 says:

        She loves babies so much she ignored her own nephew Archie. I mean let’s stop pretending kate is a stay at home mom doing all the work that stay at home moms actually do. She has numerous nannies and staff and multiple homes. William is also lazy, but Kate has used the “hands on mother” excuse to do even less than William. And now we find out that this was a lie too.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        ^^Heck, Kate’s even ignored GEORGE when he was a baby…those infamous polo photos/videos where he was moving down the hill towards the horses, and Kate just sat there without a care in the world as Autumn rushed to grab him. I also remember the clip of him sitting at her feet and trying to get her attention while she cheerfully ignored him and chatted to other people until he started to cry.

      • Jais says:

        Polo pics of Kate ignoring a new mother and a little baby. Mrs. all about babies mental health and moms can gtfoh. Legitimately will never forget those images. What a heinous sil. She is not an ally to new moms.

      • Tessa says:

        The question is why do those children have to be a lot of time in the public eye? No reason for that. Kate coos over babies but did not bother to go to Lily’s birthday or pay attention to Archie when he was a few feet away.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        BAM, I’m happy for you that you get to raise your kids with the love and attention that it sounds like you perhaps didn’t get. Finding the time for self-care is hard, but I urge you to keep trying to figure it out. You’re worth it.

        I keep coming back to the issue of Pa and Ma Mids. They’re helping to raise the kids. We were told that by the bm. Between the cook, housekeeper, nanny, etc., and the Mids helping to raise the kids, just how much time is KHate with them when they get home from school? I have no doubt that she gets as much self-care as she wants. Sorry, I don’t think KHate’s spending a lot of time with them. They can tell us she does, but I can’t figure out how.

    • Mary Pester says:

      @susanCollins, spot on Susan, but, but, but Kate is an early yars expert isn’t she, 😂🤣this is a way of them saying no, Kate isn’t steely, she will bend which ever way they tell her to, and then some. She is a hands on mother, because she always has her hands on them (just like she does with bullyam), when there is a camera pointed at them. Diana was a real hands on mum, plus she worked with little tots before she became engaged to Charlie!! I will never forget how she swept Harry in for a massive hug when she came back after a tour
      Just like I will never forget the pictures that show the Queen shaking a little Charlie’s hand when he greeted her coming back from her tour. Harry and Megan love their children and enjoy every minute of being with them without anyone to witness it, they are children that know they are loved by their parents, and are not treated as photo props

      • Minnieder says:

        I don’t remember that story! (QE shook her own son’s hand?!?)

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Minnieder, I think he was about four years old. Mary Pester is not kidding, she shook his hand.

      • Minnieder says:

        Thanks @saucy&sassy! I’m off to google that 😂

      • Carolind says:

        If that is the tour Diana came back from when the boys were waiting for her on the boat, she did not even look at Harry as she ran towards the boys it was all William and although she could have swept both boys into her arms,but was William and William only she hugged first. Only then did Harry get her attention. Incidentally Charlescwas right behind her and hugged them too but the press only photographed Diana.

  3. Izzy says:

    Gosh, what a shame, Waity McKeen doesn’t get to put all that “Arly Yahrs” expertise to good use.

  4. Rapunzel says:

    Yikes on bikes, this story is nuts. First, Kate doesn’t work because she is parenting, and now she’s not parenting because she’s not allowed? They are setting this woman up for a spectacular fall. If I was Kate, I’d be worried af.

    • BothSidesNow says:

      True. They are gunning for her and she foolishly looks the other way. Keen, you in danger!

    • Carty says:

      Maybe they are setting it up for William to get custody should a divorce happen. Saying well, she don’t take care of them all that much, etc. such a useless article otherwise.

    • Becks1 says:

      And the line about how they know their children can be good PR. So Kate isn’t hands on, no McDonalds for the kids bc Diana was wrong about that (I mean McDs is gross lol but how fun are the happy meals for kids?!?!), and they use their kids for PR. And it acknowledges they have a huge staff.

      This is not a good look for Kate.

    • notasugarhere says:

      This reads more like Kate/Carol(E) trying to blame the Windsors for Kate’s laziness, now that more-and-more people are adding up the nannies, housekeepers, and Kate’s lack of work.

      The Midds tried that during the dating years to, trying to blame the BRF for Kate not having a job. The Palace issued an *extremely rare* denial saying they have nothing to do with the employment of private citizens.

  5. Snuffles says:

    I’m just thinking how different Archie and Lili’s upbringing is/will be. Harry and Meghan both wake up their kids and get them ready for the day. Meghan makes a point of making everyone breakfast. They drop off and pick up Archie from school themselves.

    Yes, they have a nanny too for when they work but they spend time with their children and do the bulk of the work.

    Man, I hope both Archie and Lili go to public school.

    Ten years from now the difference between the Sussex kids and the Wales kids will be striking. And the Wales kids will see and be old enough to realize how much freedom their cousins have.

    • Amy Bee says:

      Considering that both Meghan and Harry went to private school, I’m going to predict that Archie and Lili will do the same.

      • Mei says:

        Is public school a state school (not for paying students) in America? I get confused because we (annoyingly) call private fee-paying school ‘public school’ in the UK.

        I’m thinking they will go to a fee-paying school in the US, but not a boarding school.

      • Amy Bee says:

        Yeah, public school is equivalent to state schools in the UK. I agree Harry and Meghan won’t send their children to boarding school.

      • Steph says:

        @mei American here. I was the reverse confused lol. Our public schools are your state schools.

      • SamuelWhiskers says:

        Only a tiny handful of private schools are (UK) public schools, though. That’s a weird myth about the UK, that we call private schools, public schools. We don’t. No Brit would ever refer to private schools generally as “public schools” because public school has a very specific and rare meaning.

        Fee-paying schools in Britain are just called private schools. “Public school” refers specifically to the >1% of private schools that are ancient and historic and listed in this one old headmistress book. There’s zillions of private schools in Britain, and most of them are just regular private schools. A handful are both private AND public, but most are just private.

      • Caswell says:

        @Amy Bee Meghan will send both kids to boarding school as soon as they’re old enough.

      • B says:

        It would be very difficult for them to get their security requirements through a public school.
        The protection officer would be far more likely at the private school.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Caswell, why would you think that the Sussexes would send their children to boarding school? I would be astounded if that happened. I just don’t see it.

      • Nic919 says:

        That is trolling to say Harry and Meghan are going to send their kids to boarding school. In the states kids rarely go to boarding school unless it is high school and even then it is not common. Meghan went to private Catholic school which is not the same thing as Eton or Marlborough. It was a step up from public school in terms of prestige, but not that fancy.

    • Serenity says:

      Same. I just hope that one day these cousins will reach out to each other and have a relationship. Will and Kate are keeping their children from knowing H&M and their beautiful children because of nothing more than jealousy and racism. When those 3 kids get older and see that…

      • Em says:

        What makes you think the wales kids won’t grow up being poisoned against the Sussexes and their kids.

      • Snuffles says:

        Oh, no doubt the poisoning has begun and they will grow up resenting Archie and Lili for not being trapped like they are.

      • Tessa says:

        The Wales children are growing up surrounded by negativity to Uncle Harry and Aunt Meghan. I doubt they would reach out and befriend them or their cousins

      • Beverley says:

        Racism is taught by parents and the larger society. If I were to guess, the Wales children have already been indoctrinated into believing that their Sussex cousins are inferior due to their Black blood.

        Unless the Wales children actively refuse their parents’ narrative about their cousins, and eventually mature in people who are deliberately anti-racist, it’s reasonable to assume they will too harbor a racist mindset and reject Archie and Lili.
        The apples never fall far from the tree.

      • Lily says:

        The cousines would never meet there was a oportunity when Lili had her first birthday insted Kate and Will took the kids with them to “work”

    • Nic919 says:

      The main difference is that Nanny Maria is raising the three kids and William and Kate show up as part time parents. And if they didn’t pretend they were “normal” parents this wouldn’t as offensive as it is. There is literally no reason for them not to do a similar schedule as Charles and Diana did, especially since all kids are in school all day.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Nanny Maria and team are raising those kids. ’cause you know Nanny Maria doesn’t work 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

        W&K had two nannies from the start with George, all while lying about it. They were clocked with three nannies years ago during the secret France Holiday when they only had two kids.

    • The Old Chick says:

      Snuffles, honestly, I hope they go to a school both parents want, rather than what fans want (or haters ftm), which they will. It won’t be public school though. I’m sure H and M have more than one nanny too. They had a baby and a toddler while working their butts off to provide financial security.

      The real difference is both M and H WANTED kids and had said so before they even met. Every interaction H and M have with their kids that we’ve seen is of hands on loving parents. Same could never be said about Kate.

      Kate wanted a ring and to produce the heir and spare. Then she realised more kids gave her a life long pass for doing nothing, even with 3+ nannies. Willy wanted an heir.. And that state school is utter bs. Not like waity went to state school, why would the heir? Will is a noted snob as is Kate (who definitely can’t cook). These people!

      • SARAH H says:

        Lili is no longer a baby, she is a toddler now. And H&M have only ONE nanny, Harry stated that in Spare, “We arrived [in Canada] with Archie, Guy, Pula, and our nanny”. Allison P. Davis also mentioned that in The Cut article.

      • BQM says:

        She was also seen in the documentary. Her name is Lorren Khumalo.

  6. Amy Bee says:

    I don’t believe William and Kate ever wanted their children to go to state schools. This piece just proved what I always believed that Kate spends more time with the children compared to the Queen but she’s not responsible for bringing up her children.

    • Nic919 says:

      She probably changed a few diapers, but she’s not doing what “normal” parents do. So again it’s just plain laziness that she isn’t doing more engagements.

    • SarahCS says:

      I came here to say the same thing, no way was a state school ever considered. CarolE did not grift for all those years and raise her mean girl/trad wife not to get ALL the benefits of marrying into the royals. WanK may hate each other but they absolutely see eye to eye on certain things.

  7. Scooby Gang says:

    Oh please. Every time they need an excuse for their pathetic laziness, it’s “They were told they can’t this” or “They were told they must that” or “QEII gave them express permission to do this” or “QEII banned them from doing that.”

    Kate is just so obedient! Kate is the perfect little rule-follower!

    These are her children. If she wanted to be more hands on… she would be.

    • Cairidh says:

      When William dumped her and she took part in training for the dragon boat channel crossing, then dropped out when William took her back because “she had to concentrate on her relationship with William” she got criticised by the press and public commenting on articles for letting down her friends/crew mates. So she said the palace had ordered her to drop out. William was furious with her, because that wasn’t true.

      She also used to say she couldn’t have a job because anything she did had to be approved by the palace, which made it difficult. That wasn’t true either.

      • Tessa says:

        The dragon boat also allowed for.massive publicity for Kate to get will to notice. Lots of grinning Kate photos on the dragon boat. She dropped out after her media campaign and Carole help got William to return. Blaming the royal family for dropping out was tacky of Kate

      • notasugarhere says:

        Ah yes, the dragon boat PR exercise with the racist o r g y running ‘friend’ of Kate’s. Keeping it Klassy, Keen.

    • BothSidesNow says:

      @ Scooby Gang, you are right!!!! They have perpetuated these lies over and over, it’s sickening and disgusting the way that they manipulate the narrative around themselves. It’s always someone else’s fault why they are lazy and useless!!

      At least the article has Keens number in that she will fall into place when BP gives the child rearing rules. I guess that is why they claim Keen “never puts a foot wrong”…..

    • Nic919 says:

      Once again Kate is lying and pretending she was told not to do something to provide an excuse for her utter laziness. I forgot about the dragon boat lies other than she just dropped the team claiming William told her to.

    • Athena says:

      Exactly, who was around to stop Kate from doing the 3:00 am feeding if she wanted to. From pictures, the kids look more relaxed around William than they do around Kate. She strikes me as a very controlling mother. Kate is what happens when you spend your life pretending to be someone you are not. She has to be mindful of every word, every movement in fear that she might slip.

      • Beverley says:

        I wonder if Kkkhate drops her phony “posh” accent when she’s at home alone with her children.🤔

  8. SURE says:

    “…when William and Kate discussed sending their children to state schools…” I don’t believe this statement for one minute – CarolE would never allow it!

    • Cairidh says:

      Neither would William or Kate. She’s a snob and he think he (and by extension his children) should always have the best of the best.

    • Nic919 says:

      They would never even do it for security reasons. Total lie that it was suggested.

    • Becks1 says:

      It was never discussed. Not at all. Why would it be?? Kate went to a fee paying boarding school. William went to…..weatherby, ludgrove, Eton? Is that order right?

      No way was the future future king going to a state school.

  9. Cairidh says:

    I think the palace or Carole read comments on here recently that Kate doesn’t do any parenting. She cooks fun things and bakes with the children, goes to tennis clubs and swimming pools and on outings with them. Things grownup siblings or cousins usually do. The nannies look after them, and the cooks do the daily grind of boring cooking.

    This is the response….. Kate was told she was not allowed to do the parenting tasks. Who is it that’s supposed to have told her she couldn’t look after her children? William? The paid nanny whose ordered about by Carole?
    The Queen who wasn’t there day to day and wouldn’t know who was doing what? The Palace courtiers who work in offices and wouldn’t concern themselves with what was going on in the nursery? I don’t believe any of them would think to tell her that….or that Kate would ask to do more work.

    William might have resented the idea of her spending time looking after the children instead of him.

    • Nic919 says:

      I also highly doubt that Kate cooks or bakes much of anything. She didn’t look any better on the Mary Berry show than William when it came to doing their baking segment. There was no ease or someone who does that kind of thing on a daily basis.

      (Plus William said early on she’s horrible at cooking. Sure he’s a jerk but it’s likely accurate)

      • Belli says:

        The pancake video showed that she is not someone who is familiar with the kitchen.

      • SarahCS says:

        Hey CarolE, as and when the ship sinks and they chuck her out I suggest a cooking show with Keen and the cucumber Jenner. If Brooklyn Beckham can have one I’m sure those two would be just as good.

    • BeanieBean says:

      The nannies themselves? Sorry, ma’am, but this is my job?

  10. That’sNotOkay says:

    Every element of this article is gross. And they’re writing this to tell us Kate does absolutely nothing—she doesn’t work and she doesn’t parent. All she does is exercise. So I guess she “works” out. That’s something?

  11. TarteAuCitron says:

    Jeez, there is no joined-up thinking there at all. Kate is a top CEO Early Yaaahs expert, don’t you know. Sod the charities & patronages if there is ever a chance to knife a family member in the media.

    … and this bit: “it was made very clear to her that this was best left to the professionals, and Kate is nothing if not obedient to the rules of life in the royal family.”

    I can just imagine a snotty Tommy Lascelles type of courtier sneering at common, middle-class Kate, and ensuring she knew her place by the end of the meeting. And “Obedient”?! ooooh!!!!!

    • Jaded says:

      Love the reference to Tommy Lascelles. He utterly loathed Edward VIII and could barely contain his disdain for Wallis Simpson. Kate is far too lazy and self-obsessed to be anything like a Diana-type mother. I think she liked them when they were little babies but as they’ve grown and developed their own identities she’s leaving the heavy lifting to nannies.

    • JR McGraw says:

      I’d love to know what child care tasks the palace officials told Cathy needed to be done by “professionals”… diaper changing? Baths? Nighttime feeding? Why on Earth would the men in gray suits be involved in those kinds of choices? If it’s true, which I’m skeptical of, the palace culture is 10 times creepier than I ever imagined it to be

  12. Tessa says:

    Publicity is good for them to have a charming child according to the article In other words putting Louis out to entertain and good publicity. That is not good for those children. Also Kate was brought up to marry into wealth and royalty and never has to support herself

    • ChattyCath says:

      No way is that child ‘charming’. More like a brat

      • Lily says:

        I got hate for saying this but as a person who worked years with special needs children i have the strong feeling he is on the spectrum, the way he behaves is not normal for his age. He is either on the spectrum or he acts like this because mom and dad getting him the Harry treatment aka showing him his life does not count he is not the heir or the spair

    • Jais says:

      Louis is not a brat but he is a kid who clearly has moments. That said, I don’t like them calling the behavior charming when it’s not. I’m sure he is charming and cute and sometimes he is not. When a kid is melting down, they’re usually feeling stress and overwhelmed. Saying it’s charming feels like they’re encouraging those stressful feelings from Louis for pr and that is just effed up.

      • Tessa says:

        Louis was overtired and put in a situation where he was prone to act out. Instead of trying to “reason with” Louis, Kate should have quietly taken him backstage and possibly with the nanny. They figured that out at the Coronation when Louis was give time away from the ceremony. The fall out of this is the child being found “entertaining” by the media which is very unfortunate.

  13. notasugarhere says:

    Sounds like Kate/Carol(E) PR scrambling about the army of nannies in the face of Kate’s pathetic work totals. Oh no, not Kate’s choice to spend all her time on holiday, working out, shopping, and getting her hair done 3X a week. The Windsors MAKE her do it. LOL

  14. Rarely says:

    Oh please will and Kate are narcissist they only care about themselves and their image. Narcissist used their children as accessories. That’s what they two did with prince louise who was stimulated in jubilee. Instead leaving him home, kate try to create photo OP.

    Oh man , this remind me of miss USA winner Alyssa campanella who was huge kate middleton stan and defender of brf. She is now a travel influncer who has daughter who is barely 9 months took she to three different country and that poor baby is exhausted all beacuse she wants to fill her daughter passport which the baby wont remember. Her fans are narcissist too.

  15. Sammy says:

    I think Kate has been a hands off parent from the start relying on nannies and her mom. William was MIA for the most part as well… busy with affairs and occasionally showing up for work.

    I think things started to change after the Rose affair was publicized. There was a shift that continued thru the pandemic. William became more involved with the kids and I suspect he is working with the courtiers to keep Kate and family at arms length of the kids. I suspect he is creating this separation for the kids so he can have control and majority custody of them when he separates from Kate. Kate sees the writing on the wall and is doing her best to present herself as an involved mom.

    • Nic919 says:

      If Carole had to show up on the Australia tour when it was just George at 9 months with Nanny Maria in tow, it’s clear kate wasn’t doing the day to day parent work. (Also silence on the canada tour with Charlotte).

      We all could tell William wasn’t doing daily parenting because when George was born, kate was at Buckleberry way more often than reported and she travelled to Mustique with George as a young baby with her parents while William was elsewhere (I think it was a hunting trip with Jecca and some of the guys). But Kate’s entire reason for all her “maternity leave” for months after giving birth was supposedly because she was busy caring for her children. (Of course she managed to attend Wimbledon every year despite giving birth to the kids months before)

      This only confirms what we suspect, that neither of them were hands on parents. William seems to be more involved now that the kids are older and out of diapers. Kate is likely trying to wrangle some control on her end, but the kids seem to mostly ignore her except for Louis.

      • SarahCS says:

        I agree with both your points. I think William is getting more involved partly as an ‘ownership’ thing (even if they don’t divorce they are 100% not together as a couple) and also the kids are getting older and therefore more interesting to an adult.

      • Tessa says:

        Charles will be sure IMO to plan those weekly “teas” with George to “instruct him” like the Queen did with William. I can see this happening soon.

      • MSTJ says:

        I don’t think Charles is interested in scheduling tea with George. I think he only cares about his reign – he doesn’t want to be on the hook for any scandals associated with his name during his reign – beyond his reign he doesn’t care. He doesn’t care about William, Harry, their children or any other person in the Windsor line in my opinion.

        I think QEII took an interest in William because she recognized Charles was not a good father and future monarch to guide him and she cared about the future of the monarchy after her death. I don’t believe her efforts were successful. 🤷‍♀️

  16. MSTJ says:

    What exactly has Kate changed since Diana? 😏

    Also, as usual with tabloid royal propaganda, the history is frequently rewritten. For years the spin was that Kate was hands on and parenting so she could work. Now in this article she is obedient and leaves the nitty-gritty part up to the the professionals. What exactly is the nitty-gritty part I have no clue. Also, the propaganda spin was that the Middletons were involved in raising their grandchildren and influencing how they were growing, now Kate is obedient and leaves it up to the the professionals. Spin spin spin 365 days a year.

    The royals are inept at parenting and dysfunctional as a family. They have always operated as a firm and not a family. They continue to make their children available for the media to photograph and public to adore to boost the firm. Thankfully Harry recognized he had to break the generational curse and moved with his family to provide a better life for them in the US. His mother fought for a better life for her children but unfortunately her life was cut short by the system that she fought to escape.

    • Nic919 says:

      Carole Middleton was very involved when George was a baby because Kate was not a functional adult even in her early 30s. Kate and George were at Buckleberry for months on end, which locals noted because there are ambulances and police near the property when Kate was there with George. The UK media of course kept that quiet especially not saying that William was not at Buckleberry with them.
      (Also see trip to Mustique with George and no William ).

      And while grandmothers, especially mother to the mother often help out, there is a level of co dependency with Carole and Kate that suggest kate doesn’t have the adult emotional maturity to be what we consider a “normal” parent. She’s as messed up as the rest of the royals.

      • MSTJ says:

        Thanks. The tabloids are full of BS most of the time to embiggen the dysfunctional toxic royals. Spin spin spin 365 days a year.

      • ChattyCath says:

        Why AMBULANCES? All sounds very sinister and messed up anyway

      • Nic919 says:

        It is part of security protocol to have an ambulance on standby in case of medical emergency. This is part of the security costs the UK taxpayers pay for without being told because it’s not covered in the sovereign grant. It is extra.

        Royals tend to stay in certain locations because these services are already set up, but with Buckleberry being the Middleton home, they were more obvious because the police vehicles and ambulance only showed up once kate got official RPO security. So of course the small location would notice this when she visits her parents.

        (I don’t know how far down the line of succession this extensive protocol applies to. But it definitely goes down to William and kate and their kids)

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kate still isn’t a functional adult but I don’t think that’s why Carol(E) sticks around. Carol(E) been working for 10 years now to be the grandparent George looks to first. Her version of being Queen Mum. She hasn’t been anywhere near as involved in any other grandchild’s life – because the firstborn royal grandchild is the one that matters to her.

  17. BlueNailsBetty says:

    Historically speaking, children have often been treated as an asset or a liability. Lower classes used kids as manual labor. Upper classes used them as bargaining chips for political alliances.

    The concept that children have rights and deserve a life is fairly recent (less than 100 years).

    Also, all aristocracy/royalty should be abolished. They serve no purpose but to leech off the citizens.

  18. zebz says:

    Yeah, the statements about kate being a great mom and hands on parent is a bunch of bunk imo. Kate is obsessed with being as aristo and blue blood as possible. Am I supposed to believe that she would drop that when it comes to raising her kids? Clearly she didn’t when it comes to how they are dressed. The only reason people believe Kate is more hands on than William is gender sterotypes and Middleton PR. I would bet Kate only sees them for photo-ops and that William has primary custody. No way is his kids living in a 4 bedroom home while he has a palace to live in. There have been clear indications of both William and Kate putting the photo-op above their kids needs (george in a heatwave at wimbledon, louis at the jubbly, charlotte distress at the commonwealth games, not getting sunglasses for the kids in the blinding sun during the carriage rides, etc).

  19. Monlette says:

    Just finished an article shading Kate for wearing “cheap jewelry”, and now this?

    I would bet Camilla threatened her to know her place and she responded with “do your worst” since she knows she is the only member of the BRF that can draw a crowd, and Camilla just cackled since Kate has no idea what she is capable of.

  20. mel says:

    Young girls were sent away to learn how to become wives, they were either already engaged if not married to someone. They were sent away to refine what would be their wifely duties; how to be at court, sewing, playing some instrument, dancing, how to dress. It as all about learning how to be a pleasing wife. By the time they hit puberty they would be “marriage ready”. It was all kind of gross.

  21. QuiteContrary says:

    Imagine meeting your kids just once a day for “a very formal meeting.” And Queen Elizabeth “would no more visit the nursery than fly.” You couldn’t have kept me out of the nursery.

    The royals are so freaking weird.

    • Ciotog says:

      I cannot imagine carrying a baby for nine months and then just seeing them for an hour a day after their birth.

      • Scarlett says:

        Do you remember the bit in downtown abbey when the nice modern mother of Matthew says to Maggie Smith “I didn’t have you down as a doting mother, I assumed they were with the nanny all day and then came down to see you for an hour at tea? Maggie says “Yes, but it was every day”! Lol

  22. Brassy Rebel says:

    I don’t believe for a minute that Kate wanted to take on more of the “nitty-gritty” of childcare. Nor do I believe that anyone could stop her if she had wanted to. Most of this is simply providing cover for the dysfunctional royal child care system. People who want nothing to do with their own children (Elizabeth and Phillip) become expert at finding excuses for their own indifference. I don’t know if that bonkers story about George V is apocryphal or not, but, boy…wow! “It’s yours,sir.” 🤔

  23. Beach Dreams says:

    “When [Kate] demurred and suggested she would like to do a little more the nitty-gritty part of the childcare,” Quinn writes in Gilded Youth, “it was made very clear to her that this was best left to the professionals, and Kate is nothing if not obedient to the rules of life in the royal family.”

    LOL sure Jan. She didn’t suggest anything of the sort. We’ve already heard for years that she spends the vast majority of her time exercising, shopping, and doing other self-centered things. That’s fine and all in other circumstances, but not when you knowingly married into a family that likes to wax poetic about doing their “duties” and “public service”. Let’s be real: she’s most likely around the kids as little as William is. They both did a weird mix of complaining and bragging about how much more time they had to spend with their children during lockdown via a People piece.

    I also find it interesting how the older the Wales kids get, the more awkward, even distant, the body language and interactions with their mother seem to be. It’s very easy to pretend to be the doting, hands-on mother when the children are babies/toddlers who need the constant attention.

    • Anance says:

      “the more awkward, even distant, the body language and interactions with their mother seem to be”

      Kate doesn’t appear to be demonstrative unlike her sister, Pippa. In fact, this aspect of her restrained personality was noted in contrast with Pippa’s as far back as Marlborough

  24. Andie says:

    “nO mCdONaLdS foR kaTe’s cHiLDrEn” lmaooo shut up. Where do you think the first place Prince George goes when he gets a weekend pass out of boarding school with his friends?

    I lived in the dorms during uni and saw first hand what happens when young adults with very controlled diets suddenly get dietary freedom of choice.

    • Libra says:

      And we gained the Freshman 10.

    • SueBarbri33 says:

      This is the part that rubbed me the wrong way. There are a million different reasons to oppose McDonald’s, but I’d bet all the money in my bank account that Kate is only opposed to the Golden Arches because she views it as “lower class.” Because she’s a snob.

  25. Blujfly says:

    This is just cover for the fact that Kate and William made a ton of public noise about not hiring staff for their children but at absolutely no point actually handled the children on their own. Kate gave birth to George, spent 2 allegedly horrible nights at nott cott in a heat wave, went to Carole’s for nearly two months or more, went to Wales where Carole stayed for several weeks, and then hired a night nanny whose identify has never been identified and begged Jessie Webb, William’s nanny, to come help them while they conducted the nanny search that should have happened while she was pregnant.

    • Rnot says:

      I’d bet that the Middleton home has air conditioning along with that scandalous tarmac driveway and nott cott doesn’t.

  26. Scout says:

    So then what does Kate do all day?

    • Unblinkered says:

      Sits drinking & complaining about her lot and how unfair her life is with old Ma debtor Middleton.

    • Anance says:

      At her age, maintenance of her appearance is almost a full-time job. I even sympathize with her reluctance to make appearances. Her hair has to be done: washed, blown out, wig or extensions applied, and more blowing out to blend. She could be in the chair for at least 3 hours.

  27. Well Wisher says:

    The highlight in the earlier stages of the Wales’ marriage, it was about the Middleton’s middle class sensibilities as an asset to the monarchy.
    ‘Being royal with a common touch’ – is implicit in the PR. The subtle disparaging comparison of the Princess Diana.

    Then years of coasting, followed by Meghan’s appearance within the family. She was warmly welcomed, Kate’s jealousy and the Sussexes’ departure.

    One singular compliment to Meghan – Loving wife and good mother and it is the train trip during COVID, only unending about parenting….

  28. what's inside says:

    I think it all can be summed up quite handily — Liars and their lies.