Two things can be true at the same time. One, Britney Spears has been traumatized and abused, and she’s deserving of our sympathy as she processes everything in real time, as she’s also going through significant mental health issues. Two, Britney doesn’t have any right to abuse, attack, strike or stab anyone because of her issues. Rumors have been percolating through the gossip channels for months that Britney and Asghari have had big fights, sometimes physical altercations. He’s even been photographed with bruises and maybe even bite marks on his arms and face. Now that Sam has filed for divorce from Britney, it’s all coming out.
Britney Spears got physical with Sam Asghari over the years, he’s told people, once giving him a black eye while he was sleeping … sources tell TMZ. Sources with direct knowledge tell us … Sam frequently complained about Britney getting physical with him during their 7 years together. We’re told there have been numerous fights where security has had to step in, but in one instance there was no security in sight.
Our sources say there was one occasion where Sam says he was sleeping in their bed when Britney flew off the handle and began punching him. We’re told Sam did not strike back, but was stunned as his wife pummeled him. We’re told that alleged incident went down early this year, right around the time Sam was photographed with a black eye and bite marks on his forearm.
Paparazzi noticed the bruising and tried to ask Sam about it, but he tried to play it off … asking photogs not to shoot him.
Our sources say Sam was particularly concerned because Britney had a fascination with knives. We’re told there were knives all over the house, including in their bedroom. Britney, as one source put it, “was paranoid someone was going to get her, and she needed the knives as protection.” The sources add Britney tended to “fly off the handle” at the smallest slight, and that terrified Sam.
As we first told you, Sam and Britney got into a huge argument a few weeks ago when he accused her of cheating, and that’s what triggered his divorce filing. But, we’re told that was simply the straw that broke the camel’s back.
It’s one thing to admire the craftsmanship of some beautiful weaponry, it’s quite another to have knives all over your home when you’re married to someone who flies off the handle and physically assaults you in your sleep. Dude filed for divorce so he wouldn’t get stabbed while taking a cat nap. I can understand that. Even if Britney deserves the benefit of the doubt, I kind of think Sam does too. I don’t know what happened and I’m not going to speculate about what sounds like a pretty awful domestic violence situation.
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The whole situation is incredibly sad. And it’s awful that it’s so public. I did family education for NAMI for awhile, and heard a lot of terrible stories. I hope both of them can get the help they need to effect healing.
Psychologist here.
This type of trauma (particularly in young age as a child star, combined w past drug/alcohol use) has clearly caused Britney not only mental health issues but a disorder (i.e., Borderline, realistically). She did not do this to herself, and she is not responsible for the continued abuse she suffered.
She is responsible for her current behaviors and her healing. It isn’t about giving the benefit of the doubt, the above accusations are extremely on par with what would be expected of someone in her situation. She likely is extremely abusive, paranoid, etc. She didn’t choose that, it just happened to her via various abuses. but he does need to cut and run for his safety. My sister has BPD and my lord, it is not manageable if the person isn’t managing it.
@EM: Very enlightening, thanks. I felt right from the start that there was a more complex layer to the simplistic black and white narrative “HE = mean vs SHE =victim”. It is appallingly exhausting and debilitating to deal for years on end with a partner with mental issues and unpredictable behaviors the magnitude of Britney’s. There’s no amount of fame, money or even love that could convince me to endure such a trial. This is too high a price to pay to have someone in your life.
By leaving, Asghari saved both himself and his wife from her unpredictable self. He had to go, and as far as I’m concerned, he deserves a round of applause for standing by her. He did love her dearly. Some other people now need to take over for Brit’s sake.
Why do I feel that this is Britney Spears’ last chance to commit to addressing frontally the core of her psychiatric issue, what initially broke her, or we might lose her! What on earth happened to Britney behind the scenes as a child star during her Mickey Mouse years and during her early teenage years? My contention is that a baneful series of emotionally annihilative actions were done to her as she was evolving in the Hollyweird adult world.
@Em — my older sister had BPD and likely a dash of narcissism in the mix. She was violent physically, mentally and emotionally and took most of her anger out on me. As you say it’s not manageable — I’ve described it as emotional terrorism, and it made growing up in my household akin to picking my way through a field of landmines. When I was in my early thirties I cut and ran after she had one extremely bad temper tantrum at me. At that point I told her I wouldn’t see her again until she got therapy. Three years later she died of EDs and alcoholism.
As skeevy as Sam appears, she has to take the bull by the horns and get herself into some kind of DBT treatment to teach her the tricks to manage her sickness.
Em – If you are a psychologist then you should know about The Goldwater Rule.
We take a history directly from the patient after they consent to be our patient, as well as get collateral where appropriate, and track how the case presentation evolves over time. And we uphold privacy laws unless we have specific consent to disclose specific information to a specific party for a specific purpose.
How will publicly assigning diagnoses to people we’ve never met and then discussing case formulation on a chat board help reduce people’s vulnerability to ask for professional help?
If I told my malpractice company that I was going to publicly diagnose and give case formulation for people I’d never met they would (appropriately) refuse to cover me.
Very few (if any people) with BPD, manic episodes, etc. are compliant once they begin to spiral. It is an educated guess she is not on meds and she openly said she’d never see another therapist due to the “thousands of hours” she’d been in therapy due to the conservatorship. She is also likely not aware of her behaviors and the need for help. Yes, she is responsible for her healing and getting help, but she’s not aware she needs any. Hence, why the conservatorship should never have been dissolved. Should she have remained under her father’s tyranny? No, that is not what I am suggesting. I am stating my opinion that she needs supervision to keep her health, safe & well.
I don’t believe the scumbag husband. I mean come on! Brit is not a bully.
Brit is a traumatised woman who wasn’t allowed to grow up.. She’s always seemed stuck at 18 years old. She needs help but that conservation order was totally against her interests. She needed help to grow up. I’m so sorry for her
I believe you can see now why the conservatorship was necessary. Britney is clearly mentally ill and in need of help. Not sure what would make her husband a ‘scumbag’. I am sure you must have some private intel that the rest of us are not privy to.
@Fran – NOPE. We aren’t going to do this. A conservatorship was NOT necessary. People live with mental health issues every day and their loved ones aren’t putting them into conservatorships. People with mental health issues have just as much bodily autonomy as anyone else. You sound like someone who would have been cool with the mental institutions people were thrown in back in the day – which guess what? Were basically conservatorships. She can need help and have issues – that doesn’t mean ALL of her rights should be taken away.
If you claim to be pro-choice but think Britney should be in a conservatorship you aren’t pro-choice. All women are entitled to all forms of bodily autonomy.
Megan: Being pro-choice is not related to this. Conservatorships are legal tools that are intended to help family members/guardians provide care for loved ones who can’t do things for themselves or need help doing things. Like many other facets of our legal system, these can certainly be abused or used improperly. But there are many folks who benefit from these and to say that they’re always taking away bodily autonomy is simply not accurate.
@Kristen Britney was denied the right to determine when and where she worked, what she ate, what healthcare she received, what medications she took, and who she socialized with. That is the definition of being denied bodily autonomy.
@Fran, please. The conservatorship was orchestrated as a scam to embezzle money out of her bank accounts – legally and with total impunity for her financial predators.
Britney is NOT going back to feed the scavengers 😑, OK. The conservatorship has been utterly abusive and disempowering. It almost became a human rights issue and a global embarrassment for the US.
Have you forgotten when daddy tried to sign her to a Vegas residency and the contrat stipulated she’d get peanuts?
the first important thing to remember is that we don’t actually know her. The second thing is this actually seems fairly consistent with her behavior when she was unmedicated pre-conservatorship.
‘Fran’ I guess you have inside Intel. I hate to break it to you, a LOT of people have mental illness. Thanks TMZ FRAN for your insights. If Brit had actual mental health care rather than her asshole father ripping her off for decades and bullying her, she’d be in a different place. Thanks for your insight TMZ ‘FRAN’ tell someone who cares
It’s also consistent with allegations from staff during the conservatorship. Britney can simultaneously have been abused by those close to her and show abusive behaviours because she can’t control her impulses due to her mental illnesses
Exactly. We all saw the photos of her attacking the paparazzi car with an umbrella–it’s not hard for me to see her being violent. Sounds like a really toxic situation TBH.
@The Old Chick
yo take a chillpill, you’re starting to sound like someone with an untreated personality disorder yourself
Or Britney is an immature diva who lashes out when she doesn’t get her own way. Not every behavioral issue is mental illness. Remember when Naomi Campbell threw a phone at her maid? No one was suggesting she was mentally ill and needed to be in a conservatorship.
When was the last time you were on Britney’s IG, Megan? Sorry but none of that is the behavior of a mentally-well person. Naomi Campbell has always needed anger management–really not the same as someone who was placed in a 5150 hold. Honestly, to downplay it like she’s just some temperamental diva is really crass.
Britney was placed in a 5150 because her family manipulated the situation. In reality, she was probably suffering from postpartum depression – a condition for which she was never evaluated. What’s crass is assigning her diagnoses that have long been part of a smear campaign by her family to control her and steal her money.
She went voluntarily, Megan. It was an admission to herself and others–an acknowledgment that something was wrong.
And I get that you want to distill her erratic behavior down to “she’s just a brat” in order to make some point about a conservatorship not being necessary but you’re missing the forest for the trees here. There have been rumors about her mental state for the past 15 years but that doesn’t even matter–we know what we see with our own effin eyes and all the gaslighting in the world can’t change that.
To say that her family took advantage of the situation for financial gain seems pretty apt, but that doesn’t erase the fact that there was a real situation with Britney’s mental health to take advantage of. A conservatorship under different people might have been the best thing for her and resulted in her being in a much better and well-supported place at this point. It’s not fair to equate what can be a useful tool with the people who abused it.
@Megan Britney was placed on a 5150 hold because she locked herself in a bathroom with her sons (traumatic for them surely) and refused to return the kids to Kevin at the end of their scheduled visitation. The police showed up and she came out of the bathroom topless and refused to put a shirt on. They put her on a stretcher (covering her) and took her to the hospital. She is not well. She needs the structure of a conservatorship (I said structure, not the abuse she was under during her father’s control) to make sure she is seeing a doctor and on proper meds, seeing a therapist and has caring, qualified staff to live with her so that she is safe. She is not well. Lest we forget the pink wig, sitting on a curb drunk babbling in a British accent, head-shaving, beating pap’s cars with umbrellas. She has suffered horrible abuse and scrutiny and she desperately needs help.
This is how victims become perpetrators.
@The Old Chick as they say two things can be true. Britney was abused but she’s also abusing her husband, especially if she’s unmedicated and in mania. My husbands mother tried to stab him during a manic episode and he had to call the cops. Another family member attacked his brother and tried to push him out of a window. Paranoia seems to go along with mania.
I would have thought the same. Unfortunately a formerly close friend of mine was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. Her husband is much taller and stronger than her and she also assaulted him countless times. She bit him everywhere she could reach, even when he tried to hold her away at arm’s length. She hit him. She repeatedly hit and bit her young children, including her baby. Knives had to be locked away. She was forced to move out of the house by CPS after her husband asked them to intervene. Only supervised visits with the kids. Husband filed for divorce. He’s a great dad and the kids are thriving. But they still remember mommy hitting and biting them and daddy. She refused to take the medications prescribed. I don’t know why there is the urge to bite, but she told me that it’s so strong, she had no control over it.
The man clearly has been photographed with marks of abuse on his face and body. Why is there always a double standard when it comes to the physical abuse of a man, where they are frequently publicly humiliated?
Thank you. This is why men under report. They are not believed it’s tragic.
Exactly. When it’s a woman who is being abused, she must be believed. If it’s a man, oh he’s a “liar”. Yeah ok. He’s a victim. She abused him. She was also accused of hitting her maid and abusing her dogs remember? Britney needs help. She is not ok. I don’t blame Sam for divorcing her and getting the hell out of there. I do think the pre-nup should stand though. He shouldn’t get money when he willingly signed a pre-nup.
Thank you @MickMack. He may be a bit of a clout-chaser but her behaviour shows that she’s struggling with one or more personality disorders. And before people accuse me of armchair diagnosing, three of my family members were diagnosed with borderline/narcissistic personality disorder and Britney is exhibiting the same symptoms, even bouts of paranoia and loss of contact with reality. I feel very sorry for her because her family, managers, agents, etc. were the cause of her mental/emotional problems. She was treated like nothing more than a cash cow from an early age, and as we can all see, it’s taken its toll.
@Jaded: Agreed. She was the earner for her entire family and no one cared as long as the money was rolling in. Her mother Lynn was great at p$mping Britney out. I am worried for a little TikTok performer (LilTay?) – her mother just got full custody; the father was trying to keep the kid off of social media, etc. The mother is now saying the kid (she’s 14) will have the “freedom” she needs to realize her dreams – which to me means mom’s dreams of a cash cow.
I don’t believe him either. If things were so bad WHY would he marry her? Either he’s lying or he’s another user who married her only to try and make money out of it.
What an awful thing to say. You’d never say this about a woman. If it was so simple then domestic violence wouldn’t exist and every victim would remove themselves at the first red flag. I have absolutely no idea what happened to these people, but to say if it was so bad why did you stay is disgusting.
Living with someone with mental illness, let alone severe mental illness, is extremely hard, taxing, daunting, overwhelming. She deserves excellent care and I hope she gets it. A spouse is never enough, even when the resources allow the spouse to be available full-time. It is an impossible task and trained professionals are needed.
Well said.
Exactly this. It is vital for to have mental health professionals to assist her and help her with counceling, therapy and develop a strict routine. I feel for Britney because her family and management failed her for YEARS. I put this all at their feet.
Not to mention that a spouse, however loving and with whatever amount of good will, is not a mental health professional. They can do the best they can, but a spouse doesn’t have the training to know how to help properly.
Josephine and Tealily, not just spouses. My brother has schizophrenia and a personality disorder. If he’s unmedicated, he’s violent against people and himself. He’s like a danger to anyone around, be passers-by or family.
Before he agreed to get help he did so much damage we had to call the police 4 times and even when he got convinced to get help, he was stopping his meds on and off. My mum has lived with him for the last 20 years, I’ve lived in another country for more or less the same time, when she passes away there’s no way we’ll take him in. It’s not fair on us, why should we have to put up with it and let him ruin our lives? I’d bet that as soon as my mum is gone he’ll think he can stop his meds as he’s never thought he was sick in the first place except at the beginning.
Britney’s situation might be different due to her wealth but I don’t think Sam should have put up with an unmedicated spouse, no way.
Agreed. I’m not team Sam or team Britney. But I grew up in a home with a severely mentally ill parent and physical spousal abuse absolutely happened during episodes.. and other times.
@Josephine: I was thinking much of this as well – along with hoping that someone in her camp hires skilled caretakers to live with her and help her with her illness.
Wow! Poor Sam!
This is getting awfully ugly. Britney needs lots of help. If she doesn’t get it, she will harm someone (possibly herself) or end up back in conservatorship. Mental illness is not a license to kill.
I 100% believe it. There is a reason why her own children won’t speak to her and want to be far from her. Her fans are blaming everyone but her behavior is weird. I hope she can seek treatment for her issues before it’s too late.
This. It’s pretty clear she is deeply unwell.
Agree. Her behavior on instagram alone were alarming. I hope she can get help but I do wonder who in her life will she listen to at this point?
I know people want to rush to defend Britney but her kids want nothing to do with her, her husband was seen with bite marks and bruises and there were videos on Instagram of her seeming “off” recently. She needs help. Maybe not have her dad as conservator but someone needs to step in.
Definitely not her father. The whole reason she is like this is because he exploited her for years, since she was just a kid on the Mickey Mouse Club. A lot of former Mouseketeers have had mental health issues. I wonder why.
I have friends who had a kid who was just incredibly photogenic. Amazing eyes. They sent me a holiday card with her photo on it and I thought at first it was commercially produced. When I mentioned that to them, and that I thought she could model (while hoping they wouldn’t do that, more as a compliment) they were like Absolutely Not! Which was a relief to hear because it can really mess kids up. She is now a happy and beautiful teen and I’m so glad they didn’t choose the other path for her. My heart breaks for Britney.
As for Sam, he was right to leave, but all this leaking does not make him look good.
The conservatorship Britney was under was always necessary. Fans and supporters just didn’t want to admit it. That’s not saying the conservatorship was done properly. The people in charge (dad, especially) of Brit were horrible and took advantage and were using the conservatorship for nefarious purposes. It definitely needed changing. But Britney has problems that were never addressed. She was given freedom I don’t think she was prepared for. This is the result.
I hope she gets the tools to manage her deserved freedom.
No, the conservatorship was never necessary. As an adult, Britney was free to make her own choices about her healthcare, her finances, and the company she kept. People may have disagreed with her choices, but none were illegal and there is nothing that justifies robbing her of her freedom, bodily autonomy, and control of her finances.
The way the conservatorship was run was wrong, and yes, Brit deserves bodily autonomy. But it was always necessary that Brit get help for her issues. And she still needs someone to step in and see to it she gets help. Preserving bodily autonomy is no excuse for letting a person with untreated issues hurt others around her and be a danger to society. Bodily autonmy means she has the right to not take meds and do what she wants. But when the choices you make with your bodily autonomy result in others being hurt, then it’s no longer just about you.
I don’t think there is any way you can know if the conservatorship was necessary or not. They don’t hand them out like candy. It is a difficult process to go through. We are not privy to her mental capacity at the time.
I agree that it became a tool for abuse, but that’s a separate issue.
For what it’s worth, I’m saying this as a person who is a legal guardian for an adult sibling with severe mental health challenges. In order for that guardianship to be put in place, my sibling had to undergo extensive assessments with home visits and input from multiple mental health professionals. Finding someone mentally incompetent is not taken lightly (as it shouldn’t be)! I’ve been in this role for six years now, and it’s not always easy, but I’m grateful to be able to serve in this way because the alternative is unthinkable. From the outside, you could easily point your finger and proclaim that my sibling doesn’t need a guardian, but you don’t know the full story in either situation, and you would be so, so wrong.
Edit: I meant for my comment to be in response to the person who said the conservatorship was unnecessary. Sorry that it’s in a weird spot and doesn’t make as much sense here.
You can’t know that. Until you have raised someone with severe mental health issues I don’t think you can even imagine. A conservatorship can help you help them navigate a compex health care system and allow you to help get them resources they need. It can allow you to veto dangerous situations. It is possible that hers was not necessary, but the terror of watching a child deteriorate and come close to dying may make you feel otherwise. What was done to her was horrible, even before the conservatorship, but I don’t think any of us can know that it was unneccesary. We can all agree, however, that it was horribly abused.
Megan, stop. Britney wasn’t mentally or emotionally capable of making her own choices and decision, and when she did manage to have some sort of autonomy she went off the deep end and voluntarily went into 5150 care. A proper conservatorship is a good thing and can help someone struggling with mental/emotional problems get better, and eventually gain control of their lives. But her own family, manager, agents, etc. took advantage of her from the time she was a young girl and this is the result. Someone who is so emotionally stunted, angry, paranoid and helpless that she can’t make sound choices or function like a mature adult. Her own children don’t want to be with her, that speaks volumes.
I completely agree that the conservatorship was necessary. It can also be true that those who held the conservatorship, while possibly initially motivated for the right reasons, ended up abusing the power it gave them. Her behavior is not that of someone with controlled mental pathology. We don’t know if she is a danger to herself but it is clear she is a danger to others. That’s the type of behavior that justifies (temporary) involuntary admission for psychiatric stabilization. I think that Sam truly loved her and wanted to help her but reached a point he had to remove himself from the situation to protect himself. The claims that he was going to blackmail are not verified and are from a source typically considered unreliable. Additionally, if there were a gender reversal, we would be asserting the woman should “take him for all he’s got” after being treated in such a way. If the reports that the prenup entitle him to just $500,000, I would assert that after 7 years and true abuse, he definitely deserves an additional settlement.
‘A’ conservatorship was necessary. What was not necessary, was to force a woman to work almost nonstop and feel responsible for sustaining multi millionaire ventures, while enforcing over her a conservatorship that abused her and treated her like a dumb kid in any other area of her life. The amount of gaslighting alone could anihilate anyone’s sanity. But that’s not an excuse for Sam to accept emotional and physical mistreat from her. Like most abusers, she’s damaged. But like most abusers, there are no reports of her attacking random people: her rage was specifically directed to people whose physique, patience or co-dependance made them a target to her eyes. My mother abused me physically in my youth bc she had a frustrated love life (basically, she’s a narcissistic living with PTS for whom no amount of attention is enough). While she beated me and insulted me, she literally told me I ‘flaunted’ not being unhappy in order to cause her pain. Even myself, as a dutiful daughter I thought it was ‘my duty’ to let herself abuse me bc she was sick. Last time she did it, was the one time I instinctively fought back bc deep down I KNEW I didn’t deserve that. Many yrs later (months ago) she tried to submit me to verbal abuse; and ever since, she must crawl to my house if she wants to see me. And of course she speaks to me like I am royalty. Sam could have kept married by returning the abuse and physically submit Britney, but preferred not to (and to cash in). However, he must take his prenup check and go. I hope Britney lawyers make sure of that.
how horrible if this is true. You can love someone and understand that they have a mental illness but still not want to be a victim of them, and it sounds like that’s the point he’s reached.
Britney need some serious help. I believe Sam. I’m sure when they first got together she was medicated and things were for the most part under control. Now her father was a dirtbag for using her the way he did through the conservatorship that is fact but Britney does have mental health issues. When she was freed from her fathers control I feel she went wild with the freedom and stopped taking meds. She really should have tried to find a trustworthy therapist who she could get her through and help her with her new life of freedom and that may mean some sort of meds. I think that Sam thought it would be okay because he could help her but you can’t help someone who doesn’t want the help and I’m sure that must of been frustrating for him. These past few months Britney has posted some really strange stuff. She needs help. Don’t come at me for my opinion especially when I see things about Kanye and his issues when he is off meds. Two different situations but both have mental health issues. So let’s all hope somebody that Britney trusts can convince her to get some help. She trusted Sam and he couldn’t help her.
The conservatorship she was in was always necessary. Of course her fans will say it wasn’t, but it was and still is. What wasn’t wrong were the people who took advantage of her and used the conservatorship to their advantage. This woman clearly needs help, and yet there are still people who will die on the bill that she can do no wrong.
I’m not a Britney fan. But anyone who thinks a conservatorship is NOT abusive and is the right choice doesn’t understand what a conservatorship actually is.
@Ameerah M – I will say that anyone who says all conservatorships are abusive doesn’t actually know what a conservatorship is. My brother is under one, and without it, his paranoia would have driven him to kill other people – starting with me. He flat out admits that to us. So why is my life less important than his in your eyes?
With all due respect, you clearly have no idea of what having a loved one with severe mental illness entails. Someone I know is slightly more severe in condition than Britney appears to be. They are in a conservatorship and actually allowed to live as normal a life as they are able. They live in their own home and are able to spend their money as they see fit. But, sometimes, the illness puts them in a place of severe paranoia and makes them a danger to themselves and even others. This is when family is allowed to step in and be able to keep their affairs going and get them treatment they otherwise would refuse because they “feel fine.” All this while threatening to unalive their terminally ill parent who never abused them. The situation with Britney’s conservatorship was clearly abusive. But do NOT speak on what you have no clue about. Conservatorships, done correctly, can be essential in an impossible situation like this.
I think TMZ has become the earpiece for the man’s side…so I’m not sure how much I can trust their reporting. And I question if there are situations that would change the prenup agreement. Abuse, cheating…he is alleging both.
At the same time, if these allegations are true, they are legit causes for a divorce. He just seems so sketchy to me. The fact that he was with her when her father was still in the picture, therefore vetted by him, never sat well with me.
I hope Britney has people around her for support, to help her heal and get the medical attention she needs. But it sounds like she might be very paranoid and probably has a very small circle of yes ma’ams.
It’s a sad situation.
It’s good TMZ is telling both sides. Men have stories too.
LOL. TMZ has never told BOTH sides. They have always immediately taken the men’s side.
There are photos of him with bruises and bite marks on his arm taken during the marriage. Which it was documented by the paparazzi themselves that he requested they NOT take. What more evidence do you need? I don’t think that a yeti just strolled on through and attacked him while innocent little Britney screamed for help in the background. If this were a woman, you’d be screaming from the rafters about the injustice.
Agreed.
I guess we know see why her sons kept their distance – its a difficult situation and at this rate she’s going to end up being sectioned again. Her family are likely circling and plotting another conservatorship – am not sure she needs that but she needs intensive therapy. It could also be that she’s not taking her meds – her behaviour def sounds like she isn’t.
She has very complex needs and as such needs complex care and support. A sad situation all round.
Abuse is abuse, even if the abuser has mental Illness. They might not be fully aware of what they’re doing, but that doesn’t lessen the violence. If these allegations are true, she is a threat to others and perhaps herself. She needs some kind of intervention before she ends up in jail or worse.
Being assaulted in your sleep is a special type of PTSD. I’m glad he got out and I hope he’s ok. I can’t emphasize enough how destabilizing sleep attacks are. The effects last for years.
I’m sad that Brittany’s mental health has declined, and someone who is unmedicated bipolar can be dangerous in my experience. I hope she’s able to get the help she needs.
Also, if you spend any time in the subreddit /bipolarSOs you’ll see the havoc that unmedicated bipolar can cause. No, it’s not everyone with bipolar, but it’s also not uncommon.
“the havoc that unmedicated bipolar can cause:” most of the divorces in my family were triggered by manic depression sufferers getting off their meds. The meds are so hard to dial in, they can stop working after years of working, and they make the suffer feel not like themselves. Yet the costs of going med-free to the people around them are high. Tragic.
I think Britney was on a dialed in medication regimen for her issues, but it seems to me that she has titrated down off of her meds (at best, I really hope she didn’t go off all meds cold Turkey). When she gave her statement to the court, she sounded fully lucid and competent. However, her behavior has become increasingly erratic over these many months. The free Britney crew aggravates the hell out of me because they refuse to see or acknowledge that she is profoundly mentally ill. They think that she should have full, unrestricted freedom and I think that would be the most harmful thing for her. She needs to have a team/plan in place to monitor her and keep her safe. I remember in 2007 keeping a close eye on the Britney drama because I was such a huge, huge fan of hers at the time. I would wake up each morning, dreading checking the news, not just because I was worried about what new things she had done, but because I was terrified I was going to read that she was dead. Things kept escalating, and it was upsetting to watch her breakdown in real time. It is tragic how she was abused in her conservatorship, but I truly believe it saved her life. I wish that she could get a team around her to keep her safe and receiving appropriate ongoing treatment while also giving her as much freedom as possible. It is so sad, I never would have guessed as a years long Britney fan how tragically her story would play out.
It’s reasonable to believe she quit whatever therapy she was receiving after the conservatorship ended and went off her meds when she was trying to get pregnant — and likely hasn’t returned to either.
I think Sam Asghari is a scammer who put himself in a situation he couldn’t handle, and he just now realized that. I despise him but I also believe him. Britney Spears is not well and probably needs to be monitored forever. She is a mentally fragile woman who was furtherly broken for money and fame and the result of it is absolutely ugly. I hope someone will finally respect her and give her the care she needs in a good facility.
@BB This is exactly what I think as well. I do not think he married her because he loved her, I think he thought he could take advantage of her situation and got a very ugly and terrifying wake up call. The “Free Britney” movement veers towards toxic in that a lot of her fans want to grant her carte blanche freedom, but also total excuse from blame and responsibility because of the conservatorship. Another conservatorship may not be the answer, but it’s clear some intervention is going to be necessary.
I think you nailed it completely. He’s in over his head. I think on some level he does care about her but had an easier time of playing puppetmaster when she was on her meds.
VERY good points made.
This is my view of the situation, as well.
Agree BB. There was no need to make any of this public! I think Sam is behind it being publicized. I hope Britney doesn’t harm herself over all of this.
If this is true, and I wouldn’t be surprised, it’s not ok, and he should get out. Hurt people hurt people. But I wish everyone would stop saying conservatorship. Just because you are mentally ill doesn’t mean you need to have your personhood taken away. That conservatorship was put in place so the people making money off of B wouldn’t lose the revenue. Not everyone with BPD needs the State to look after them!
no one’s saying everyone with BD needs a conservatorship. hell, no one even actually knows if that’s what she has.
they’re pointing out that this particular individual seems to struggle a great deal without medication and a good support system. left to her own devices, it’s a mess. I don’t know if I think a conservatorship is the answer, but she does not seem capable of managing herself in a healthy way, and she seems to have no actual support system these days.
I think her family, in particular her parents, have always been abusive and shitty people who saw her as a cash cow out of poverty, and that’s it. they should not be involved in her care.
You are right, not everyone with BPD does. But speaking as someone in recovery and ongoing treatment for BPD (seven years in CBT!) I can confidently say if I had Britney’s money and was as far gone as she is now, yes, I would need a conservatorship. Usually, someone in her position only changes when they have to: when they hit rock bottom. When you have all the resources she does, rock bottom never comes. Next step is jail, mostly likely from assault, crashing her car, or something like that. And sadly, getting in trouble with the law might be the only thing to help her get to a place where she actively wants to change.
They were married in California less than two years ago and have no children. Without a pre-nup he would get 1/2 of her income for the time they were married plus spousal support for 1/2 that time after the divorce.
The abuse would be a police matter, not a factor in the settlement.
Thanks for putting that narrative to an end. I don’t think this is some ploy to get more money out of her but also, I choose to believe victims until proven otherwise.
I believe Sam. I have a bipolar family member and it’s been clear that Britney has some sort of manic disorder (not sure if she’s bipolar bc she’s never shared that specifically).
I think everyone is quick to blame everyone else around her. But there’s a reason her kids are keeping their distance.
As always, many things can be true. The conservatorship was abused by her father for his financial gain, and she is mentally ill, now likely untreated.
She’s very clearly BPD; the “mania” you see is hair-trigger hypervigilance induced by trauma.
She’s bipolar but not manic? Is that what you’re saying?
BPD = Borderline Personality Disorder.
It is different from Bi-polar Disorder.
It is also possible to have a dual diagnosis.
JESUS, This is a terrible situation. Agree with others that I always found it curious that her sons didn’t want anything to do with her but the mood swings and erratic behavior could explain it. I know that if true, she’s an abuser. But I can’t help but feel sorry for her. She’s struggling and needs help but she also appears to be a danger to those around her, which is no joke. Awful situation all around.
Curious what this means for the book release. (I always put it at 50/50 of even happening at all.)
Her divorce lawyers include Matthew Rosengart from her conservator days. She seemed to like and trust him at the time. I can’t imagine any decent lawyer wants their VERY unpredictable client talking out on a book tour while they’re in the middle of a messy divorce.
Do they release the book with no promotion? Push it back? Was Sam in a bunch of it that she’ll try to change?
It’s funny reading this thread and seeing how quick people are to declare that Britney should once again have all of her rights taken away. Do you folks hear yourselves?? If she was abusive to Sam that is awful and is in line with what can happen when people go unmedicated. That doesn’t mean that Britney should have all of her rights taken away – again. How does being abusive solve abuse?? Because conservatorships are abusive. I have a feeling Britney is dealing with a LOT of distrust for the medical community – understandably so. And this is perhaps why she is resistant to medication. But I also think abusive behavior is not something to ignore and I am glad that if she was abusive to Sam he left. No one should have to deal with physical abuse.
But folks – exercise some nuance of thought here. Because there are some VERY problematic comments on this thread that explains why there is still such a stigma around mental health.
Saying that she needs help and that this behavior demonstrates why a conservatorship was necessary is not the same as saying she deserves to have all her rights taken away.
That said, what do you think jail is? And where do you think she’s headed if she keeps assaulting people? Why should Britney be allowed the opportunity to hurt people just because she’s mentally ill?
What do you think a conservatorship is?
What do you think a conservatorship is hun?? It LITERALLY takes away person’s rights. LITERALLY. A person under a conservatorship stops being a “PERSON” in the eyes of the legal system. They cannot hire their ow attorneys, control their money, their medical and reproductive choices, their MAIL, their COMMUNICATIONS, they cannot sign ANY legal documents. They cannot SPEND their own money, They cannot WORK without permission. They have NO Medical privacy.
Have you not been paying attention these last few years about why Britney’s conservatorship was such a big issue in the first place??
Her conservatorship lasted thirteen years and it could have lasted longer. No one spends thirteen years in prison for biting someone else and giving them a black eye. Those are misdemeanors not near fatal injuries (felonies). Even felony assault in California gets a person maybe four years in prison. Her conservatorship lasted three times longer than this.
Bottom line: a conservatorship is not middle ground. It’s too harsh and it lasts too long.
Unless you have dealt with this, you don’t realize there is no middle ground. If a person is refusing therapy or meds then there is nothing you can do. Until they demonstrate they are a danger to themselves or others then the law won’t step in. By then there is usually a tragedy for the person and others.
I HAVE dealt with this. Which is why I am speaking with a sense of understanding. Because I have been the CHILD having to make choices for a PARENT who was dealing with massive mental health issues that it took months to get diagnosed. And a conservatorship is NOT middle ground. It’s a complete stripping of a person’s rights and bodily autonomy. A lot of y’all who claim to be pro-choice seem to have no issues with conservatorships.
I hear you Ameerah. And I agree. A conservatorship means the person has NO rights. That was unnecessary, and obviously extremely abusive.
I’ve seen this issue from both sides (mental health, not conservatorships – although I do understand what that entails) and there IS a middle ground. She needs a support system. Paris seems to have done a lot of healing and I’m hoping she will reach out, or has already. If my friend were going through this that’s what I would do.
@Ameerah- It doesn’t seem you learned too much or cared to. Which is understandable, considering the position you were in. But blanket calling conservatorships a stripping of rights and personhood is ignorant. As I explained in another thread, Britney’s former conservatorship was hella abusive. I personally know someone in a conservatorship who is a little more severe than Britney and they have their own home and life. They spend their money as they please and associate with who they please. They are every bit allowed the same rights as you and me. But their family is allowed to intervene when they go off their meds and threaten to unalive their already terminally ill parent. That’s what a conservatorship is meant for. The things you’re saying about it are extremely irresponsible and almost paranoid. I’m sorry your experience is what it is. But that’s not what it is for everyone.
I have a daughter with BPD. If they won’t consent to treatment, it is a painful and, at times, dangerous thing to watch.
With laws being what they are now, it is very hard and expensive to get adult mental health treatment when they don’t want want it even though it could improve their lives.
It is devastating to watch as a mother.
I have a mother who acts similar. It has been difficult my entire life to deal with her and to watch her treatment of my father. She refuses to go to a therapist or to get any kind of treatment.
My heart goes out to you. My son is schizophrenic. If I did not have the ability to force him into hospital when off his meds and in psychosis, he’d be dead or in jail. I believe this with all my heart.
I am also his financial guardian. Without my controlling his money, he’d blow through 5k in a matter of days every month. He has no filter when it comes to spending, nor being verbally abusive when he doesn’t get his way.
I believe BS is pretty deep in psychosis right now, with no around to help her. It’s frightening to watch. Hits too close to home.
Yeah, this is why when that story came out about the Vegas incident a few months ago with the NBA player’s security I was surprised at the blanket support of Britney’s behavior by so many commenters. And the details that came out supported my suspicions.
Many of us have been in the “multiple things can be true about Brit” camp for a while. Probably never needed a conservatorship but also raised by backwoods, bigoted idiots who had many issues themselves and never addressed her issues. Never allowed to grow up and never received the serious treatment she probably needed.
You can want to support her but also hold her accountable for her behavior. Blanket support of her swings too far in the other direction.
I’m SHOCKED anyone is giving this gold digger the benefit of the doubt. Truly. From TMZ of all scummy sources with a smear campaign. My god.
I’m not giving him a blanket benefit of the doubt. I think he married her for her money. That said, it can also be true that she punched him while he was sleeping, has a fascination with deadly weapons (which knives can be) and is generally unstable and unable to regulate her anger.
Being a gold-digger doesn’t mean you deserve to be physically assaulted, or should have to be risking your life every time you close your eyes at night. And if she did this to him, whose to say she won’t do it someone else, who hasn’t done anything wrong? Like someone who works in her house?
He has previously been photographed (admittedly against his consent by paparazzi themselves) with bruising and bite marks all over him. What more do you and the other stans want? Even if he’s a gold digger, he doesn’t deserve that. You can relax. She won’t pick you. 🙄
Sure to all of the thoughtful comments above.
As a side note, my 6’3” weightlifting ex-air force brother was divorcing his very petite wife, and one day antagonized her to the point where she just straight up lost it and slapped him. He is definitely comfortable with being an arse, I’ve seen it.
Then he went to the judge and said that she had physically assaulted him. I don’t have her stats but she was probably around a hundred pounds and maybe 5 feet in shoes. She might not have even had a bicep except she was doing most of the care for the triplet premies so she had probably developed a small one there.
I thought he was awful and wanted to know what his military cohort would have said if he had made that claim to them.
My mother is mentally ill, I dunno with what because she won’t get properly diagnosed. I have had some suggestions from my therapist. I have to give her tasks to do so that she isnt verbally abusive with me or my father. She is a 75 year old woman I am talking about and has been like this for decades. She also is a narcissist and expects every man to talk to her. Additionally, she feels she is in competition with me for any man, including my father. I pray that she doesnt need a retirement home or need health aides because she will be verbally abusive and violent to them for sure unless they are men.
I was chit chatting with the movers a few weeks back and she told them I am probably perimenopausal. I keep her at arm’s length for my own mental health and sanity. Britney, like my mother, probably juat needs to be regularly medicated.
I’m sorry to hear you’re going through that. My mother is in her 80s. She’s not verbally abusive but she has no filter anymore. She constantly nitpicks, hijacks conversations, and repeats the same stories about her own life, her friends, her neighbor’s daughter’s college career, etc. I wouldn’t say she’s a narcissist. She’s a decent person, sweet even, but she can’t read the room at all. She’s exhausting in the same way a toddler is. You love them but you’re sooooo happy when they go take a nap.
I took her to my neighbor’s house for hors d’oeuvres last summer, and she started talking to them about my marriage. Nothing bad, just personal and inappropriate. I kept telling her (first gently, and then firmly) that this wasn’t the time or place and she was like “why not?!” It was mortifying. Thankfully they saw what was happening and managed to steer her away from the topic. She wouldn’t listen to me but she would listen to them. Go figure.
I lived for five years with a man with a mental illness. I protected him like a mama bear. Nobody knew what I went thru behind closed doors. He didn’t like his medications and like many stopped taking them because he “didn’t need them anymore.” One day he called me at work crying because he saw the “angel of death” dragging a wagon down our street with bodies & he was afraid they were coming for him. I spoke to the local Alliance for the Mentally Ill and they helped me so very much. One thing they said was, “You have every right to save yourself and your own mental health. If you feel unsafe or even if you don’t think you cannot take it any longer, you have every right to remove yourself.” I still felt so much guilt and was sure I could be my boyfriend’s savior…that I could fix things. Then there was the night I came home from work and he had my clothing & shoes lined up. He said it was time for him to “sacrifice” me to “Jehovah.” He forced me into the attic while he looked for a knife. Luckily, he didn’t lock the door completely & I escaped. I don’t know Britney and I don’t know Sam. But I do know that things happen that outsiders don’t know and that when someone no longer feels safe in their own home, they need to do what is necessary to save themselves. I don’t know but perhaps Britney stopped all her meds after she was no longer forced to take them. I will never judge anyone who does whatever they must do to save themselves.
Oh, I am so sorry. And so glad you’re OK. What a terrible situation. You absolutely did the right thing by saving yourself. I’m glad you were able to get sound advice and follow it.
I don’t know Sam but I do know he doesn’t have to stay in a home or with a person where he literally fears for his life and physical safety.
What a terrible situation. I can’t imagine living like that.
This is such a sad, treacherous situation.
Obviously Britney’s parents used her as a cash cow and abused the conservatorship. I wanted her to be free to live her life just as much as anyone else did. That said, it seems clear she needs to be on medication. She needs people in her life to support her and tell her when she’s doing things that are harmful to herself and others. She needs help.
I don’t know much about conservatorships. It seems that just like many legal tools and frameworks, they can be used for good or they can be abused. If she is refusing to take treatment she seems to need, what can be done? It has gotten to the point where her children don’t want to be around her and that’s devastating. It didn’t have to be like this. If she had gotten intervention – the right kind – earlier, when it was needed, things could have been different.
As for Sam, I am suspicious of his motives for marrying her and being with her before that. But even if he is a gold-digger, that doesn’t mean he should be assaulted or fear for his life and physical safety in his own home.
There is a lot of context missing from that story, especially Britney’s side of things. Sam says he was assaulted in his sleep. Was she asleep too? Was she having a startle or trauma reaction? Did she have a nightmare about an intruder and did she think she was defending herself?
I don’t want to blame the victim because he should be able to sleep at night. The story is really unfair though.
In her loooooong history there is a pattern:
1. Britney is at high risk for abuse.
2. Britney does not get the help/care she needs.
3. Britney does not get fair press coverage. The media makes $$$ by making her as crazy as possible.
4. Her family & (ex) spouses have all profited from selling stories about Britney. Sam will use her for his own profit just like everyone else does.
Nice guys don’t threaten to release publicly humiliating information unless there’s more money in it for them.
Isn’t that open extortion?
Mu god, yours is one of the only comments on this entire thread that seems nuanced along with Ameerah’s. It’s like people have the memory of a fruit fly. All these people forgetting what happened last time and asking for a new conservatorship are wild. This is so messed up.
For those of you saying, ThIS iS wHy A cOnSeRvAtOrShIp is necessary, NO. She is stunted and struggling now because she was a PRISONER for 15 years. Britney needs support and assistance in managing whatever she’s experiencing right now. But what we are not going to do is trash her and call for her to be locked up in a exploitative position AGAIN. I hope Sam is okay and I feel for him too, but don’t air out your issues for a payday, bro. Please everyone leave BRITNEY ALONE.
I’m sorry but I disagree with you. As a bipolar woman that spent most of my life unmedicated and manic, i NEVER ASSAULTED ANYONE. Ever. Everyone needs to be held accountable for their actions, even when manic, even when they’re Britney Spears.
Um okay, disagree about what? What does accountability mean in this situation?
Having a brother who is mentally ill…I would not be surprised if some fights turned vicious. A lot of the worst bipolar/BPD cases go through manic stages that can tilt wildly into extremes and lead to them lashing out. I’ve had to pull a knife on my brother at some of his worst moments.
There needs to be a balance in recognizing that while what happened to her was completely unacceptable and deeply exploitative, there are, legitimately, people who are so mentally ill that they cannot function without support. In all of this, I feel for her kids most of all, who will likely have to make a choice at some point whether to become part of her caregiving team.
Britney has my sympathy as she has struggled rather publicly with her mental health but being violent to her husband is not okay. I don’t blame her children in keep their distance from her either. They have to protect themselves and their mental well-being.
Wasn’t there reports of her going completely cold turkey off her medication for her mental health some time after the conservatorship ended? It was worrying to read that report. She comes across resentful of the help she has gotten for her mental health.
I do agree the conservatorship and those around her were exploiting her in the financial sense. I do think that how low and rock bottom she had hit at that point in her life. She desperately needed the intervention and that conservatorship did save her life. I do think her father should have stepped down when he should have, to allow someone else to take over.
I do think to a degree that the stability and structure is needed for her. I hope she gets the help she needs to maintain her mental well-being.
This is a sad situation made sadder by its high profile subjects. But it sparks interesting conversations around the things that can be going on behind the scenes of families that are plagued with mental disorders. As horrible as Sam’s allegations, they could very well be true. My mother has suffered from Alzheimer’s for over a decade and I have participated in her care the last five of these years. She is now bedridden and incapacitated, but five years ago she was mobile and free to do as she would/could. And that meant hitting, spitting, swearing, pushing, fighting. And as her caregiver all I had at my disposal was negotiating, patience and taking it. There was no medication available to fight her symptoms. They were like flash floods, coming at the drop of a hat, and gone just as quick. The times they were witnessed by others, all I can imagine is how horrible it must have seemed. She looked (and was) out of control, yet uncontrollable. The more you resisted her or tried to talk her down, the angrier she would get. I was never hurt, but it hurt emotionally. The woman I loved as mom was gone, and the only thing that remained was a stranger that had to be kept safe but I could not be kept safe from.
I hope this is not even close to the situation that exists in Britney’s life. Uncontrollable mental illness is hell on earth, for all involved. Reading about this has triggered my anxiety. But I am fortunate in my case that the disease has progressed, and though she is near the end, she is much more peaceful. This allows me and my father to manage her care so much better, though the disease continues to devastate at all levels.
May both of these people find peace, away from each other. Though I have this sinking feeling peace is very far in the distance at this time.
I’m so disappointed in all these comments. This is Depp 2.0. and this man has an easy mark because of her already being called crazy for years by her abusers so they could take her rights away. You are all falling into the same goddamned trap that Depp used. Slander her so he can appear to be the victim and it’s fucking working.
TMZ was on Depp’s side, now it’s on his. WHAT A COINCIDENCE.
He first threatened to BLACKMAIL her, which is illegal by the way. Now it’s known he will get NOTHING because of the iron-clad pre-nup.
GOSH. COULD HE HAVE AN ULTERIOR MOTIVE? NO! LET US BELIEVE THIS MAN UNCONDIONALLY BECAUSE ABUSERS NEVER LIE ABOUT BEING ABUSIVE! AND HE IS DEFINITELY NOT USING DARVO! LET US ALL BELIEVE HIM!
Someone pointed out that the bitemark on his arm is where she would bite him if his arm was around her neck. And guess what? DID YOU NOT BOTHER TO SEE ALL THE BRUISES ON BRITNEY AS WELL! There are literally screenshots of her in videos with massive bruises.
Tale as old as fucking time. And what is so disappointing is you’re all falling for it. Have you learned nothing?
Ummm the stories about him trying to blackmail her are false. Both Britney and Sam’s side have denied them. So we should believe all women that claim abuse but not men eh? Double standard.
He’s going after her alright. Not one damn man on this Earth can love and cherish this woman the way she’s supposed to be. I honestly don’t know how she can get the help/therapy she needs without people putting her in a strange hold which raids her bank accounts and wipes out her freedom. What is the answer?
You can’t “cherish” a person out of being mentally ill. That’s not how it works.
This is such a sad mess. I hope Britney gets the help she needs, and glad Sam left an unsafe situation. I don’t imagine this will be handled quietly, but I do hope nothing escalates.
Britney is NOT okay, she never has been. I hope she finds some peace.
My son is a grown man. He has a college degree, a job and lives on his own.
I am his guardian, I filed for it the day he turned 18 and was granted it. I make all his major decisions. I control his money and put him on an allowance. With his money I also pay his bills and make sure he is building savings. I make his doctor appointments and go to them (he sees the doctors by himself and I talk to them after). I manage his medications and his prescriptions. I make sure he has food in the house and clean clothes.
My son doesn’t have an intellectual disability. He’s very intelligent. But he does have high functioning autism and bipolar disorder with psychotic features. He’s also well over 6 feet tall and close to 300 pounds.
I make no money off making sure my son is healthy and safe. That was where Britney’s conservatorship went off the rails, when people started having strong financial stakes in her life. She became a bank instead of a daughter (let’s face it, she always was…even from her Disney days).
I discuss each decision I make with my son. I’m sure he doesn’t always like it, but he’s impulsive, doesn’t always take his medications and is sure that as an adult, he knows best. He doesn’t, because of his illnesses.
I wonder how her conservatorship would have gone if Jamie hadn’t decided to start getting paid through it? There’s a good chance she would have been able to get the help she needed from the start, learn the coping mechanisms and how to approach life in a healthy manner without feeling as trapped, without the trauma But we’ll never know.
To make blanket statements about conservatorships and guardianships is as big a disservice as automatically assuming she needs one. What she does need is some sort of help. What kind I can’t really say as I don’t know her.
As for Sam, if he felt this whole situation wasn’t anything he could handle and felt abused, yes he should get out. But he’s a working actor now (especially more since hooking up with Britney) so he should be fine. Cash out the pre nup and move on.
Thank goodness they ended up not having children together. She could have been saddled with another Fedex for another 18 years.
Who will assume the guardianship when you’re gone?
The alternate is my best friend, his godmother. Then my brother. Then my godchild (an adult now as well and asked to be). My brother is behind his godmother just due to distance. He lives 1700 miles away
Also I report quarterly to the court about his money and how I spend it. I have to bring copies of his phone bill, rent, everything. Right now he’s under the most restrictive guardianship, Article 17-A but I hope by the time he’s 30 to transition down to something less restrictive. Seems they never even worked on that with Britney unfortunately