Joe Jonas & Sophie Turner ‘are headed toward divorce’ after four years

An underrated indicator that a couple is headed for divorce: when a tall wife stops caring about her shorter husband’s feelings and starts wearing high heels around him. I apologize to all of the short kings out there, but it’s true. In every photo of Sophie Turner and Joe Jonas in the past year, she’s wearing sky-high heels and towering over him in photos. The marriage was doomed! Sophie and Joe have been together since 2016 – she was 20 years old at the time and starring in one of the biggest shows in the world. Joe was a 27 year old pop star at the time. I honestly thought Sophie was way too young to jump into a serious relationship/marriage at that point, but they did get married (in 2019) and they had two children in 2020 and 2022. It sounds like the marriage kind of fell apart soon after they welcomed their second kid.

Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner are headed toward divorce … TMZ has learned. Sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ … Joe had his people contact and consult with at least 2 L.A.-area divorce lawyers and he is on the cusp of filing divorce docs to end his marriage to Sophie.

Our sources say the couple has had “serious problems” for at least 6 months. We’re told over the last 3 months, Joe has been caring for their 2 young children “pretty much all of the time,” even as his band was touring. We’re told Joe currently has both kids, as the group plays around the U.S.

On the surface, it seems there’s been no outward signs of trouble. Joe and Sophie have attended events together. However, in recent weeks … Joe has been seen not wearing his ring. And they recently sold their Miami mansion. They bought that place just a year ago … and sold it fairly quickly, for a decent profit.

Joe and Sophie first linked up in 2016 … and got engaged a year later. In 2019, they were married — Vegas-style — and have been living the family life ever since … quickly welcoming their first kid in 2020 … and another in 2022. A lot has happened for them in 4 years.

Professionally, Joe and Sophie have been busy — mostly JJ, though. He’s gone on tour with his brothers recently and is scheduled to perform through the winter. Sophie’s done some TV/movie stuff in recent years — but isn’t nearly as active as she was during her ‘GoT’ days.

[From TMZ]

Sophie “isn’t nearly as active as she was during her ‘GoT’ days” – she gave birth to two children in three years, you f–king misogynists. This is TMZ trying to put some kind of “spin” on a man dumping his wife less than fourteen months after she gave birth to their second child. And why would it be a big deal for Joe to care for their children? Is Sophie filming on location or something? Is this just Joe throwing a tantrum that his young wife isn’t a stay-at-home mom?

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  1. Pinkosaurus says:

    I have a knee jerk reaction to guys running to TMZ to share their victim stories – he’s terrible, at fault and hiding something. If this were coming from any other source, I wouldn’t assume that.

    • Snaggletooth says:

      Seriously. Bitter, whiney attacks on his young wife and mother of his very young babies? Immediately paints a picture of why the marriage failed.

    • sunny says:

      Me too! Soon as I saw that his team was running to TMZ, I was side-eying him hard. Good luck to them both and to the children.

    • Satish More says:

      Same. As soon as I saw it was from TMZ I knew it was going to be an absurdly anti-female point of view. The people over at TMZ are just disgusting, they’re all “the man in this situation couldn’t possibly be culpable, too” ALL the time. It is their core belief. And the way they kissed this Jonas guy’s ass for doing the same things women do every day…..smh…

    • Mustang Sally says:

      I stopped buying the wholesome, perfect Jonas image years ago when Taylor Swift called him out on SNL. She was singing a song, stopped and said something like, “Don’t worry, Joe – I’m doing just fine,” and then kept signing and the audience burst into applause. Didn’t he dump her via text or some such infantile behavior?

    • SUNNYVALE says:

      Wait, what?! These “TMZ scoops” are mainly infantilizing HER and painting her as this women in a submissive marriage. When she’s more likely just hasn’t had a offer/cast in recurring major role as there are far better actresses out there. I never understood the hype for these jones siblings and if anything I feel icky about HER. I won’t forget how she was caught liking anti Meghan posts and doing that awful (& cancelled) cartoon show with Gary something. She is no victim. That said we can’t take these “reports” seriously until they announce something

      • Satish More says:


        I didn’t know Sophie had been caught liking anti-Meghan crap……well, there went any sympathy I had for her…….

    • Embee says:

      I wonder why he has the kids on tour? I worry in situations like this that the mom may be struggling with post partum health issues. I hope she’s ok.

  2. Mireille says:

    This story came out of left field. I thought all the Jonas’ marriages were rock solid. I also wouldn’t jump to conclusions on why their marriage fell apart. First off, I don’t believe shit from TMZ and all other media outlets are just echoing TMZ bullshit. Sophie and Joe were posting love notes to each other on Instagram only a couple of months ago. The only thing I glean from this is, if true, something must have went down pretty quickly for Joe to start seeking divorce lawyers so quickly. That’s all I got.

    • Dee(2) says:

      Yeah TMZ always takes the misogynistic bent I’m not ready to consign him to the trash heap because they’re reporting the way they always do. It does seem out of left field but you never know what happens in someone’s relationship things can seem fine and then end just because it’s shocking to us doesn’t mean it is either of them. You would think after all the ” shocking ” breakups this summer that would be kind of apparent. And I don’t think there’s anything wrong with filing for divorce after you have kids regardless of how soon it is. It’s much worse to stay in a terrible relationship and raise your kids in it than to end it just because your kids are young. I can’t think of anyone who’s parents divorced when they were young saying Man I wish my toxic parent stayed together until I was five.

    • Scout says:

      I believe TMZ because they pay for their info. And it gets results. They have sources in hospitals, hotels, the LA county morgue…. If they say this marriage is in trouble, then sadly I believe it.

      • Mallory says:

        Do you think they pay all the men who use TMZ to drag their wives (Pitt, Depp, etc) and therefore you believe it?

      • Scout says:

        Fair point. I guess I should say I believe them about forensic information. He/she said celebrity arguments…no.

    • ME says:

      Has this been confirmed? She was just at one of his concerts…standing with Priyanka and Kevin’s wife. They all looked happy. If they are getting divorced, it must be something that happened recently, like someone cheated or something. Who knows. Maybe they just couldn’t make it work. Still find this hard to believe though.

  3. Sam says:

    I used to see him at a gym in NY and I got the impression he was very full of himself. I never spoke to him, so this was just my observation. I think he had some work to his hairline.

    I hope Sophie will be happy and they can figure out a custody agreement. I have read rumblings she missed her friends and family in the UK.

    • SamuelWhiskers says:

      She’s given interviews talking about how desperate she is to move back to the UK, how her mental health would be much better if she could move home, and how she needs to convince her husband but doesn’t think she’ll have much luck. She was really super candid in interviews about how their location as a family was a huge sticking point for them.

  4. Chloe says:

    I don’t know if i really believe this story. I know tmz has a habit of breaking stories first, mainly because they’re terrible and respect no one. But something here isn’t fully adding up. She’s been with them on tour and Joe HAS been spotted wearing his wedding ring.

  5. BB says:

    Respectfully, this is a weird take. To think that a woman doesn’t respect her partner if she wears the shoes she pleases. My husband is shorter than me but he is confident ; me wearing every kind of heels have nothing to do with him, anyway.

    • Bettyrose says:

      I thought she’d been towering over him all along and we’d been praising his confidence.

    • PunkPrincessPhD says:

      Cosign, BB. A woman should never have to make herself smaller to avoid infringing on her partner’s ego. See Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise for how soul-crushingly toxic that can be.

    • Christine says:

      My first “love” (yes, it was high school, but the point still stands) was 5’4″, and I’m 5’8″. He never tried to look taller, he never tried to influence my shoe choices, and he loved me (in a really horny high school way) in heels.

      If my high school boyfriend had the confidence not to care about our height difference, surely the language of heels tells the story here.

      I am all the way with you, Kaiser. The shoe choices at the beginning of the relationship tell the story. The millisecond the woman, who has obviously always been taller, becomes even taller, it’s a power move, to an insecure man.

  6. mmcaav says:

    This is probably an unpopular opinion here (maybe becasue i’m from europe idk) but getting married at 23 is not a good idea
    ” Joe has been caring for their 2 young children “pretty much all of the time,” even as his band was touring. We’re told Joe currently has both kids, as the group plays around the U.S.”
    So?? Does he want a price for being a father? embarrassing

    • Bettyrose says:

      I thought she was too young at the time. And she’s been pregnant their whole marriage. But I always had the vibe he absolutely adored her. They really seemed like a solid couple to me. I don’t understand the appeal of the Jonas Bros at all. So to me she seems legions out of his league, but I wasn’t expecting this at all.

      • Smart&Messy says:

        Bettyrose, I think the same about all of the Jonas Bros. All three married women way out of their league. I was shocked about Pryanka and Nick at the time of their wedding. Same for the third guy whose name escapes me all the time. His wife is not in the industry, but he still punched above his wieght. Maybe it’s the DiCaprio problem: their cute kid face didn’t age well at all. They also have zero charisma to go with their musical talent.

    • Smart&Messy says:

      Yeah, he takes part in raising their kids?? WOW
      I suspect this disgusting commentary is TMZ’s abhorent take on the story. It’s a wolf whistle to their misogynist base. He is forced to care for the kids = she is a whore who abandoned her children for work and/or sex with other man. Poor poor husband, so innocent, such a victim of the bitch who didn’t stay home so HE can thrive.

    • theotherviv says:

      “Joe’s MOM AND THEIR TWO NANNIES have been caring for their two young children while with him on tour, as Sophie is in the UK for a movie shoot.
      There. Fixed it.

  7. girl_ninja says:

    I’m not a fan of either but this is pretty sad. She spent their first year of marriage pregnant, 2nd yr adjusting to motherhood, 3rd year pregnant with 2nd baby while mothering a toddler, 4th year with 2 under two—and she also went back to work. That’s a LOT on a new marriage.

    • Smart&Messy says:

      Right, but poor guy having to spend time with his kids all by himself /sarcasm/

      • Anna says:

        Last week I went out with my friend and my hubby stayed with our 5yo. My mom was sending messages to family chat how proud she was of my husband to take over for 3h… I was constantly alone with my kid first 3 years as my hubby worked a lot, never heard any praise, rather “you’re not the first one to have a kid in this world”. So, nothing changed in this topic, sadly. Moms are default parents, dads are praised to high heavens for.. parenting their kids.
        I have a degree, am a high earner, so are my friends general social circle, it’s still an issue. I can imagine how things are among women with less privilege..

      • Mango says:

        I’m sure Sophie and Joe have at least one nanny that’s been helping him. Even men with sole custody of their kids do not usually raise them by themselves. They immediately set off an SOS until a grandmother, sister, nanny or new wife rushs over to do the heavy lifting for them.

    • Gem says:

      Her Elle interview was pretty clear, she didn’t think the logistics of having kids or raising them in a foreign country through. She realized she neither wanted to live in USA, nor wanted to raise kids the American way pretty early after having her 2nd kid. She wants a English countryside estate life with ponies and high tea. Joe is absolutely the last person on planet she should have married if she wants that. So I don’t blame her but Joe shouldn’t be complaining about looking after his own kid. Neither Nick nor Kevin does that. Also, they have loads of help, who is he trying to impress throwing that childcare bit out.

  8. Tila says:

    I remember an interview she gave before she got married to Joe in which he said something like she needs to love herself more than she loves Joe or he can’t be with her or something. I do think there was maybe a bit of growing up to do for her before she got married. She used to cry on the GOT when people hid her vape for christ sake. I do really like her though and hope they can work things out.

    • Steph says:

      Weird take, Tila. She needed to grow up before marriage not bc she was very young but bc she b was (is?) addicted to the second most addictive substance known to man? If this was her reaction to an illegal drug instead of nicotine would you be saying she needs to grow up or get help? And anyone else who may decide to comment on this: it has nothing to do with the Sussexes and everything to do with the way addiction is spoken about.

      • GrnieWnie says:

        I think the point was more about her crying when people were hiding something from her…

      • Steph says:

        @grniewnie but it wasn’t open ended to leave room for many opinions. It was a very specific statement. @Tila, sorry. I came off combative. I’m not saying that we can’t say a 23 yo needs to grow up. I’m sure we can find many reasons why. I’m weary about speaking so loosely about addiction. Also, I’m using the word addiction bc I feel many ppl discount that aspect of nicotine. I feel since until you get sick (often irrecoverably) people look at it as “just stop. It’s not that serious.” It’s generally only personally destructive so the addiction aspect isn’t taken serious.

      • ThatsNotOkay says:

        I remember that interview too. And I think part of it was about her struggles with self image and bulimia or some other ED, if I’m not mistaken. She had low self esteem and they discussed how much he lifted her up and helped her look inside and see how wonderful she truly is. That gave me pause, because I’ve never thought much about any Jonas brother, but that gave me some insight and respect for him.

    • LizzieB says:

      I’d cry if people hid my vape or anything else I wanted to access in my daily life, and I’m 42. I have adhd and I often cry at things like that because my brain can’t process the emotions into words and it overwhelms me instead. So don’t judge people for emotional reaction that you might not have – they are operating from a different manual!

  9. vs says:

    She was one to like posts abusing Meghan Markle when she was at her worst point….did Karma find her house?
    Hope the kids are ok

    • Barbara says:

      Yeah, she followed and liked that Gary guy who did caricatures of the royal family who was always shitting on Meghan. I didn’t like Sansa Stark either, I would have been fine if her smug character had been killed off.

    • Tila says:

      Oh really?? I did not know this. Estimations of her have gone down completely. Thank you for sharing.

      • Kath says:

        I don’t know what to make of this, considering she very loudly and publicly came out in support of Meghan after the Oprah interview.

      • Dee(2) says:

        She also voiced princess Charlotte on the show he got on HBO Max based around those horrible Instagram posts. So forgive me if I’m not immediately like Joe Jonas is a monster for filing divorce. She piled on during an avalanche of crappy behavior towards a marginalized woman that was being abused in the press, while she was pregnant too. Hope their kids come through this okay.

    • TheVolvesSeidr says:

      Sussex Squad is all over xwitter talking about this. Apparently she has been “liking” negative content about Meghan since it all started, and still does. So eff her. She will get whatever she deserves. Seems like people who isht on Meghan eventually do.

    • Lux says:

      That’s audacious, not to mention, awkward, since her (soon-to-be-ex) SIL is friends with Meghan.

  10. Gutterflower says:

    I wonder how long that phone call was.

  11. teehee says:

    Why would you even ever do yourself the disservice of making yuorself as tall as or shorter than your man!?!? Be as tall as you want to be.
    So its less an indicator of separation, and more an idicator that the woman realizes she made mistakes when compromising too far for her own good.

  12. Kath says:

    Sophie has a history of depression and is now raising two babies in her mid-20s while her husband gets to continue his career and is (apparently) complaining about having to look after his own children.

    • TheVolvesSeidr says:

      Sophie “likes” all the negative bs about Meghan Markle too. Such a nice young girl huh.

    • vs says:

      Yet she had no issues liking posts about people abusing a woman till she thought about suicide! Why should people consider her history of mental health and depression now? Did she ever thought about the black woman? hope she gets what she deserves!

  13. C says:

    There’s always going to be a level of sexism to how a divorce is portrayed.
    Nevertheless I don’t think it’s problematic to point out that yes, Joe is busier in his career than she is.
    Inability to agree about divisions of labor in the household can happen to anyone, if that’s what it was meant to refer to then that’s one thing. I guess we’ll see about the reporting of it going forward.
    Sophie has said she would prefer to move back to Britain, so that may be part of it too.

    • GrnieWnie says:

      I guess the problematic part is pointing that out when it shouldn’t be relevant or noteworthy at all. Comparison of his/her careers in this context shouldn’t occur because a woman who has just had two babies back-to-back should not be expected to be active in her career. That’s an unfair and unrealistic expectation that harms women. And frankly, a father shouldn’t be all that active either (I’m a big believer in parental leave…i.e. forced paternity leave). Perhaps Joe’s career *shouldn’t* be so active at this point as he’s a new parent, too. But do you see TMZ pointing that out?

      So I’d say there’s actually quite a few problematic layers to the observation. There’s a lot of ways that societal expectations harm women and families…capitalism + patriarchy, no thanks.

      • C says:

        I can see that but commented more on that angle from the perspective that none of the GoT cast is doing huge amounts of high profile work honestly.

    • Grniewnie says:

      Good point. The funny thing is neither was Joe until recently. Like what has he been doing for the past 5 years? Didn’t he release that one Cake by the Ocean album and that’s it?

      • C says:

        Good question! I looked at Wikipedia and it looks like he’s released 2 albums, done some movies, and a fair bit of television. And the Jonas Brothers are touring again. Definitely busier than Sophie has been.
        Of course, a large part of that was the pandemic and yes, motherhood. But I never thought it was promising after her Jean Grey movie tanked.
        As he was someone who was part of the Disney promotion team for a long time (of dubious quality in my opinion but there it is), it was always going to be that way versus her role in GoT and the work that would come after imo (actually I think she’s doing better than several others of her former cast members). Anyway, all of this maybe led to actual arguments about divisions of duties or he’s just being a jackass (I suppose Occam’s Razor points to the latter). I guess we’ll see.
        I think they are both full of themselves honestly, in their different ways.

  14. lumbina says:

    I read this to be hinting that she was absenting herself from the kids for reasons other than work, ie she was out partying and perhaps just wasn’t ready for all of this.

    That could be grossly unfair, I just thought that’s why the kids point was made so strongly…

    • MaryContrary says:

      Pretty sure she was just seen in London alone with her kids. To me, this read as a spin from TMZ to make it sound like something is up with her and he’s shouldering the parenting duties.

      • Lumbina says:

        Thank you – I didn’t know that, and in which case the angle goes from bitchy to straight up sexist as hell.

  15. GrnieWnie says:

    She towered over him in their wedding photos so if height is somehow a reflection of attachment, not sure what that says.

  16. Bettyrose says:

    You know what, I don’t think this is really happening. I think they’re holed up with their team right now trying to do damage control on this narrative.

    • FHMom says:

      I hope you are correct. I guess we will find out soon.

      ETA: after reading the comments here, there is a lot of gossip about Joe I had never heard. I hope she is alright and the gossip is wrong.

  17. Chani says:

    That photo of Sophie in the black dress is giving Morticia Addams.

  18. Sean says:

    This is going to get messy if this is the story right out of the gate. Sophie has been open about her mental health struggles. She also discussed in interviews how much she misses England and her family and friends there. She’d like to raise her children there but Joe is not on board with that.

    She actually filming a new show in her home town and word is she’s realized how much she does NOT miss Joe. Maybe being away from him for such an extended period has led to her reflecting on their relationship. She’s spent her entire 20s being his wife and birthing babies back to back.

    There have also been rumors that Joe has a cocaine problem, cheats on her regularly and has tried to invite other women into their bed much to Sophie’s chagrin

    • H says:

      The rumors I read always presented them as both happily indulgent in regular threesomes. The new rumor is that he got a little too interested in a 20 something recently.

      • ThatsNotOkay says:

        Sheesh. These rumors are…something. Please cite your sources. I mean, Sophie kind of came out as bi saying time isn’t straight and “neither am I,” so them having a more varied and inclusive sex life would make sense. But his taking an interest in someone else who joined in is cringe, and either or both having substance issues would suck. I’m curious if your sources are legit.

  19. Yoon says:

    She was way too young and never lived her life as adult. I dont know where her parents were and why they didnt advised against marriage at young??

    Also woman like sophie should be the last person on earth to give birth to kids. She doesn’t have good mental health along with eating disorder where she needed a nurse to look after her and make sure she eats everyday. She should not be mother at this time. It makes my angry when woman like sophie are irresponsible and having children.

    You should be stronger mentally to have a children and honestly those children need their mom when she herself struggle with mental health is receipe for disaster. I hope those kids have adult and mature nanny.

    • LooneyTunes says:

      So…people with mental health struggles should (checks notes) not be allowed to reproduce? What a dog of a take.

      • Mle428 says:

        What a garbage take, @ YOON. I’m a perinatal psychiatry provider and I help people plan their pregnancies who have existing mental health diagnoses, address concerns that come up during the pregnancy, and work with people who struggle postpartum. In many cases, the first presentation of bipolar disorder occurs in the perinatal period.

        When you get into who should and should not have babies, you veer into eugenics territory and that’s not a good look.

      • MinorityReport says:

        Yeah. This clinically depressed mother of four says fuck that noise. 🙄

      • yoon park says:

        Read what i said , im not shaming depressive and other mental health. Sophie openly talks about eating disorder that is very serious mental health. People with ED places so much value on their body and apperances. If you dont heal or get help for ed and having child will change the body and it will spiral. By their own words she need a adult to look after her and make sure she eats. This is not good for mother when a child need her and ed people have mood swings and any child deserve better.

    • Mallory says:

      Good mental health is subjective. Plenty of women claim to be great mothers, but put down women, judge them, have unattainable standards & still raise children.

    • Jaded says:

      I know several women who struggled with hormonally induced depression during and after pregnancy and yet loved their children unconditionally and raised them to be wonderful human beings. You sound like a totally uncompassionate person. None of us know Sophie Turner or Joe Jonas and yet you come up with some ridiculous opinion that she shouldn’t be a mother because she’s mentally unstable and incapable of being a good mother. SMH…

    • Mallory says:

      @Yoon: Rather than now attacking only specifically women with ed as the “last women on earth who should have kids” & why….you could take a moment to reflect on the women who spoke up here, who did feel shamed by you, and not do this anymore?

    • Madi says:

      Im not speaking about sophie cause i dont follow her.

      I understand everyone trying to be pc but the truth is you have to PLAN PLAN PLAN when you have a mental disorder and want kids. There are a lot if kids being neglected because their parent has an issue. Love isn’t enough. Its not about how the mom feels. Ask a kid of a mentally ill parent how life was. It’s all about the support system. And pregnancy can make symptoms worse.

      • Mallory says:

        Which is exactly why society should show compassion, not further shame these mentally ill parents with children.
        Yes, planning is the best if you are mentally ill & having a child…..but that is not reality, so our society can care for mothers, fathers & children or just pop off on websites, shame people & make it worse.
        Mental health is subjective as well, so people constantly focusing on what is wrong with a mother who was honest about her issues in the past (to heal), is a problem in itself that needs to be addressed.
        Add to the layer that we never seem to be this concerned about a father’s mental health, or nit pick that, and we have a societal epidemic that keeps mothers & their children not receiving the help they want & need.

  20. Chelsea says:

    I didn’t realize how young she was. Did he really think it was a good idea to propose to a 21 year old after only dating a year? I mean from what i saw of them he did seems to adore her and they looked cute together but she was really young and he used to have a playboy reputation so this isn’t completely surprising. They probably just grew apart and that’s normal.

    The tone of this piece though is gross af. I saw someone say on Twitter that she’d been filming a movie which is why Joe had the kids and before that she mostly caring for them while he was on tour and that’s all normal and fine but the way this TMZ story reads it looks like its trying to make her look bad by only focusing on the months that he had the kids. I always side eye men that go to TMZ to get their meninist take out there but there’s also a chance that this isn’t from his camp and is just from TMZ who loves to write stories this way so im going to give him the benefit of doubt…for now

  21. Gurl says:

    I find this man wildly unattractive.

    • Satish More says:


      Me too. I have never ever understood the appeal of any of these Jonas men

    • bettyrose says:

      I think the theory early on was that she was a huge fan of his music. We can probably all relate to being attracted to someone because we love their music (or other art). But I really don’t get how his music in particular makes up for what he lacks in sex appeal. My other theory was he has a great personality and they’re best friends. As of this story, that theory isn’t holding up either.

    • theotherviv says:

      I always side-eyed how he was so tight with Wilmer Valderrama when the Jonas Brothers’ “best friend” Demi Lovato said that Wilmer was mentally abusing her. He decided to stay friends with him and get papped with him all the time while she was going through stuff, acting as if he supported her. Both he and WV seem to like them young and gullible. And skinny. I would bet that both of them would dump anyone for getting fat.

    • Smart&Messy says:

      Same. All three of the brothers, actually.

    • blue says:

      There was a cartoon character in the ’50s & 60s who was a mouse or something & 2 of the Jonas boys look like that. The only one who looks “normal,” or at least not odd, is Kevin.

  22. Satish More says:

    When they married, I definitely wondered what would happen to their relationship when all the GoT sparkle wore off her.

    And TWO kids??? By the age of 25??? Girl…………….

  23. MinorityReport says:

    I dislike the narrative that he “dumped” his wife “fourteen months after she had a baby.” We don’t have any information to say he dumped her and how old their kid is is irrelevant. Is there a minimum amount of time after having a child that a couple has to stay together?

    My spouse and I were essentially over by the time our youngest was two. Things happen. I’m glad we didn’t stay miserably married based on how soon it was after I gave birth.

  24. stormyshay says:

    Joe is sleezy, always has been. Dude asked out Gigi when she was 13 and he was like 19. He has admitted to this in interviews. When he and Sophie got together she was like 19 and I think he was 27. I always felt like he wanted to lock that down. She mentioned in an interview having cold feet about getting married, well then suddenly they elope in Vegas. Then she has two children pretty quickly. He just seems off to me. He has also never been without a woman, so I see him getting a jump off quickly.

    She is currently filming abroad. It makes sense she would not want to take her children with her and would prefer for them to have the stability of their dad and extended family with them. She has been very vocal in recent years about wanting to move back to the UK for her mental health. Him running to TMZ seems like a power move to prevent that from happening.

    I hope Sophie is okay and takes care of herself through this. I will probably always have a soft spot for her. She grew up in front of the world in one of the biggest series in history. Not to mention she filmed some pretty dark crap while still a kid. She has been open about her struggles with her mental health. I want to see her succeed.

    • bettyrose says:

      Lock that down sounds about right. Maybe when she grew up and into her own a bit she was no longer so much “fun.” You know, being a working mom with her own needs and interests and whatnot. Quite different than a 19 year old up for whatever. She is so stunning, though. I’ve always just figured he was thanking the stars daily for her love.

      ETA: Even though I was never crazy about the character Sansa, ITA that a young actress doing those scenes has always made me feel a bit protective of her.

  25. cazzie says:

    Sophie HAS been working … over here in the Uk … in my home County of Warwickshire (the same County where she went to school). I saw her with my own eyes on 16th August filming in the street in Royal Leamington Spa. Sounds like Joe is finding it hard being a proper Dad by actually co-parenting their kids while Mummy is working.

  26. Chaine says:

    Oh noooes, a working father ALSO has to look after his children? Someone nominate this man for a Ron DeSantis Profiles in Courage award.

  27. teecee says:

    I also remember her Meghan-related internet activity and it came off as classic white woman behavior to me. Only ww like Sophie are allowed to struggle with mental health issues, it seems. For that reason, I’ll give her just about as much sympathy as she gave Meghan, who was in a far worse situation and facing much greater challenges.

    AND, while I’m here — while Joe may be gross or whatever, his statement reads to me as a warning to Sophie not to try and relocate the kids to the UK. If she is homesick, that is sad. But once you become a mother, your kids’ wellbeing must be put first. These are children who were born in the US, raised here their whole lives, have an American father, American friends, cousins, grandparents, etc. Uprooting them is not in their best interest, no matter how homesick their mother is. (Also…she needs to grow up. She’s rich – she can visit the UK or hang out with the ten thousand Brits colonizing Brownstone Brooklyn.) No American court will agree to ripping out their roots and transplanting them to the UK, thank goodness.

    • AnneL says:

      I don’t think it would be a problem for them to move at this stage. They’re very young and can adjust to a new country. But being that far from their father is not desirable, so they’ll have to work something out.

    • vs says:

      “I also remember her Meghan-related internet activity and it came off as classic white woman behavior to me. Only ww like Sophie are allowed to struggle with mental health issues, it seems. For that reason, I’ll give her just about as much sympathy as she gave Meghan, who was in a far worse situation and facing much greater challenges.”

      —- 1000000% agree

  28. Pointillist says:

    He can’t even try longer than 6 months of trouble with two young kids, pitiful.

  29. TheVolvesSeidr says:

    According to Sussex Squad on xwitter, she is a Meghan Markle hater. I have no sympathy for her.

  30. Anna says:

    I remember Sophie’s online behaviour around Meghan at the height of the hate campaign, and I’m not a fan. Don’t know if she’s changed her tune in recent years, but I’ve side eyed her since.

    Having said that, it doesn’t change the fact that the age gap between Sophie and Joe when they got together was Not Good. Throw in how fast the relationship moved, and that she’s been pregnant for most of their marriage, this just doesn’t pass the vibe check. I hope whatever happens, it’s what is best for her and the kids.

  31. Sof says:

    Dont forget that Sophie moved abroad to be with him! And has said a while ago that she was homesick and wanted to go back, perhaps that has something to do with this? She is currently working back in the UK.

  32. AnneL says:

    I didn’t know Sophie had weighed in on the Meghan hate. That’s disappointing.

    That said, in this context, I can understand why she would be struggling. I was in my late 20s when I had my first kid, and being in a new city, halfway across the country from my family, was hard even though my husband’s family was nearby and very supportive. It must be that much harder for someone as young as Sophie being in a different country entirely with two little children.

    I thought she was too young to get married when they tied the knot. I felt like she thought she was very mature for her age because of her GoT years, but that kind of experience can thwart emotional development sometimes too. Or at least keep you in a bubble.

    Anyway, sad news. I hope they can reach an amicable state given the children they share.

  33. VilleRose says:

    She’s always talked about how much she misses her family and friends in the UK and how she wants to move back. Not very surprised to see this at all. I’m wondering about the custody of the kids though. I’m not sure she’d be allowed to decamp to the UK with both kids.

  34. Soe says:

    Joe asked a 13 year old Gigi Hadid out and later dated her when she was 19. He started dating Sofie when she was 19. She was very young and vulnerable when they met ( she’s been open about suffering from depression) and she was a childhood Jonas bro fan He never got the blow back for this type of behaviour. Also this marriage seems to be largely about his needs from what i have read like the move first to NYC then to Miami and largely surrounding themselves with his friends and family. And per her latest interview she didn’t sound that happy and wanted to move back to england and be close to her family. Which is understandable for a young mother with two small kids. Hopefully she gets her wish but the way this article is trying to position him as the main caregiver, is very shady.

    • Soe says:

      Not so much from Nick. He’s seems like the least traditional of the guys. Because priyanka has definitely been working a lot throughout their marriage. Joe seems like he presents and outwardly image of being hip and cool but is really quite conservative in terms of how he sees marriage.

  35. K8erade says:

    Every other article says Sophie’s filming a TV series in the UK. I think someone (Joe) got a bit resentful at having to take care of the girls while mommy’s at work and decided to cry to their publicist in a heated moment who then cried to TMZ. I wouldn’t be surprised if Joe is resenting her for heading back to work. I think his plan was to keep her barefoot, pregnant, and not working. I get that vibe from all of the Jonas Bros.

    • HollyGolightly says:

      I don’t think that’s true about Nick! He married a woman ten years older than him that is more successful than he is

  36. Margaret says:

    Hell yes on calling out the misogyny in TMZ’s coverage. Also chef’s kiss for comments about a doomed relationship for the short king when the heels come back.

  37. wellokay says:

    I think she was to young to get married and didn’t get a break between the end of GOT and seeing what was next for her. She seems like a good egg and they seemed like a solid family. Its sad to me honestly. I feeling post partum depression. He left her to go on the road with two kids by herself and he admitted loneliness of wanting to move back to the UK. I’m guessing a crisis took place and she didn’t like what she saw anymore. As a 27 year old he should have let her find herself a bit more before marriage and kids because this stuff happens if they feel they really didn’t think it through. The end of their cute little family. I wish them both healing.

  38. AC says:

    I didn’t know that Sophie is not fond of Meghan(Tbh I haven’t met anyone from the UK who does. The ones I met at a Hollywood tour this past spring didn’t like HM either).
    Regarding Joe and Sophie, it’s really sad when a couple breaks up their marriage and 2 very young children are involved . Joe’s parents also got married at a young age (when they were 18 and are still married to this day). It seems they grew up in a solid family and Christian lifestyle.
    I know Sophie has had issues with depression before and was suicidal when she was younger- I don’t think it helps when she’s been alone and Joe has been on tour. Either case, I hope they can work it out. There hasn’t been a confirmation of a divorce yet.

  39. Hannah says:

    Yes, Sophie has been filming on location in Birmingham this year (not WGA or SAG affiliated) – not breaking the line. I also low-key suspect a bit of PPD after birth of her 2nd daughter and I suspect that she only recently received necessary help for her PPD. I’m rooting for both of them. I’ve heard awful things about the set on GoT from crew. Those girls were too young for that level of fame and scrutiny. Thank fu*k for C*vid intro of Intimacy Coordinators

  40. jferber says:

    TMZ does anti-woman and anti-black biases. They also immediately came out supporting the side of the white family in “The Blind Side” case. Rupert Murdoch poisoning the well, as always. I thought Kaiser’s comment about the high high heels was hilarious. Before Selena Gomez dated Justin Bieber, he complained that she always wore high heels around him. Her response was a gem: “You’re short, Justin. Embrace it.” And “He’s taking care of the kids” to me automatically means, “He hired six nannies.” They’re his kids, too!

  41. Maiya says:

    What are the anti-Meghan stuff she endorsed?? All I found was her public support of Meghan after she talked about suicidal ideation with Oprah.
    I know this is basically a Meghan fan site (which, okay, fine!) but does every celebrity and piece of gossip have to be looked at through the Sussex lens??
    PS: genuinely, if someone can point me to the anti-Meg stuff, I will retract.

    • sevenblue says:

      @Maiya, this guy Gary Janetti was making a very popular royal instagram stories. He was basically using Prince George as a persona. In most of them, he was slut shaming, insulting Meghan as Prince George, who is a child. A lot of famous actors were following and liking his content. One of them was Sophie. Even when Meghan was pregnant, the content was awful to her. After that, Gary got a HBO show with this content called the Prince, satirizing Royal family. Sophie also got a part from that show.

      There were a lot of screenshots of the famous people liking his Meghan content. I don’t know if they are still shared on social media, but you can find it if you look for it, I guess. It isn’t what she said about Meghan, but she -a famous person on social media- clearly promoted his work, a lot of people are following famous people’s likes and famous people know it too. She basically didn’t care that another woman was on the receiving side of all the hate.

      • Maiya says:

        @sevenblue, thank you for explaining! I looked into it briefly and see that it is pretty unfunny content from this guy, not to mention tasteless in the context of the overall treatment of Meghan in the press. I did not have time or patience to check out if he has treated the other royals the same, but I am guessing that because Meg was new/likely to generate interest plus Black/American he focused on her especially (with all the racial and gender biases that a middle aged white man could bring).
        I see that he did say that after the ITV documentary he changed his stance on Meghan a bit because he didn’t want a pile on, but I am not sure how genuine that was!
        All this to say it’s possible that Sophie liked those posts thoughtlessly, without considering their impact properly. Maybe it’s too much benefit of the doubt, but she did come out strongly in support of Meghan once the true extent of what she suffered was revealed in the Oprah interview. I mean I do side eye her! But I’m not quite ready to have zero empathy for Sophie’s own mental health struggles, etc.

    • Lilly (with the double-L) says:

      @Maiya I didn’t find anything either. I thought “how did I forget that?” What I sort of remember and found was her saying that Meghan wouldn’t see troll messages not believing her suicidality; but friends and family who need help would and they never could/would go to them for help. I’ll watch for screenshots and links too.

  42. JJJohnson says:

    It looks like Sophie is filming a series in the U.K. right now. This is why she isn’t with her kids. He acts as if she abandoned them. I think he is trying to establish his home base in the United States and there will be a custody war. Sophie has said in the past that she is isolated in the United States and homesick. She probably wants to go home.

    This is kind of a dick move on his part. It seems like she wouldn’t stay home in the U.S. like a good little wife so he files for divorce.